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From YouTube: Regular City Council-CRA Meeting 10-06-2021
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Regular City Council-CRA Meeting 10-06-2021
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Please
help
us
walk
in
such
a
manner
that
you
shine
through
us
and
every
person
we
meet
may
feel.
Your
presence
in
our
soul
take
our
hand
because
we
cannot
make
it
by
ourselves.
Father.
We
pray
for
our
nation,
our
state,
our
country,
our
county,
our
city,
that
you
bring
revival
to
your
people,
father,
we
pray
for
every
family
that
is
represented
in
this
chamber
today.
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Okay,
the
first
item
on
today's
agenda
is
public
citizen
comments.
If
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
address
the
council
on
any
matter
before
us
today
or
anything
else,
that's
on
your
mind.
Please
go
to
the
guest,
podium
and
state
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
have
three
minutes.
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This
is
a
picture
of
the
gypstack.
This
plant
was
to
be
shuttered.
They
are
reopening
it
so
that
they
can
continue
to
dispose
their
radioactive
blended
waste.
Water
mosaic
wants
to
put
a
chemical
plant
14
miles
from
our
chamber.
Everybody
on
horse,
creek
and
pine
level
mosaic
is
already
discharging
into
horse
creek
from
the
manatee
windgate
mine.
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So
first
of
all,
last
legislative
session
is
a
little
bit
different
than
in
the
past.
Covid
restrictions
were
pretty
tight,
which
is
to
say
very
limited
access
to
the
capital
testifying
before
committees
was
done
remotely
through
the
civic
center
down
the
road
from
the
capitol.
There
were
some
exceptions
where
you
could
get
into
the
capital
capitol,
but
very
limited.
So
for
the
most
part,
all
communications
with
elected
members
of
the
legislature
and
their
staff
was
remotely
by
phone
email
text.
J
As
we
head
into
the
new
legislative
session
last
year,
we
had
about
in
the
neighborhood
of
three
000
bills
that
were
filed
of
those
a
little
more
than
200,
actually
passed
and
of
those
about
half
of
them
are
agency
bills,
where
the
executive
branch
agencies
themselves
want
clean
up
provisions
or
changes
made.
So,
as
you
know,
it's
a
the
system
is
generally
designed
to
fail,
which
is
good,
because
if
it
were
easy
to
change
the
law,
we
would
have
lost
the
republic
a
long
time
ago.
J
So
it's
a
it's
a
difficult
process
to
get
an
actual
policy
or
substantive
bill.
All
the
way
through
appropriations
were
a
little
bit
difficult
last
year,
because
we're
still
coming
off
of
covid,
but
the
state
has
rebounded
much
better
than
most
economists
have
predicted
and
we're
in
pretty
good
shape.
J
All
things
considered
heading
into
the
new
legislative
session
last
session
was
the
first
of
the
two-year
cycle,
which
is
to
say
every
two
years
we
have
new
presiding
officers
in
the
house
and
the
senate,
meaning
a
new
speaker
of
the
house
and
a
new
president
of
the
senate
and
last
legislative
session
was
the
first
term
or
time
with
those
speakers
and
senate
presidents
having
a
gavel
in
their
hands
and,
and
it
was
an
off
year-
wasn't
an
election
year.
So
that
tends
to
be
where
more
things
get
done.
J
This
session
a
little
bit
different,
were
for
a
host
of
reasons.
One
you're
in
the
last
year
of
the
presiding
officers,
and
so
the
next
one
coming
up
is
itching
to
have
the
power
shift
to
to
them,
and
so
the
the
current
presiding
officers
fighting
to
hang
on
that
power.
The
new
presiding
officers
are
fighting
to
get
it
and
so
we're
in
the
middle
of
that
transition.
And
of
course,
it
probably
goes
without
saying
that
we're
also
in
an
election
year.
J
We're
we
have
four
of
our
six
committee
weeks
left
two
two
of
which
in
this
month
and
two
of
which
are
in
november,
in
the
run-up
to
that.
As
you
know,
each
county
has
a
delegation
meeting
where
the
elected
legislators
who
have
portions
of
each
of
those
counties
in
their
districts
meet
to
hear
input
from
constituents
and
communities
and
local
governments.
Ours
is
november,
10th
and
melissa
and
greg
have
the
information
for
that.
J
We've
already
submitted
our
registration
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda,
but
we
have
not
submitted
any
materials
or
a
legislative
priority
list.
So
we'll
work
closely
with
melissa
and
greg
on
developing
that
quick
note
on
leadership.
We're
very
fortunate
in
this
delegation
to
have
our
own
state
representative,
be
the
majority
leader
of
the
house
representative,
mike
grant.
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Also,
as
you
may
know,
I
sent
an
email
out
notifying
everybody.
Senator
ben
albritton
just
recently
secured
the
votes
to
become
the
next
senate
president
after
the
next
one.
So
in
three
years
our
own
senator
will
be
the
president
of
the
entire
united
florida
florida
senate.
So
our
area
is
doing
well
and
and
coming
into
its
own.
In
leadership
terms
with
that,
let
me
take
any
questions.
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Thank
you
very
much
for
all
that
you
did
for
us
with
the
boca
grand
drainage
project,
that's
a
significant
showing
for
us
and
we
don't
very
often
get
a
lot
of
notoriety
and
little
punta
gorda
here
from
the
state
level.
So
I
think
everybody
concurs
here.
That
was
a
pretty
major
coup
for
us
to
get
that
money
from
for
the
project
and
we're
very
very
pleased.
So
thank
you
for
all
of
your
efforts,
and
especially
thanks
to
our
legislative
delegation
from
charlotte
county.
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Increasingly
important
is
the
short
answer
for
a
whole
host
of
reasons.
It's
going
to
continue
to
trend
upward
one
our
our
governor
ran
on
that
issue,
and
it
was
a
big
part
of
his
campaign
and
he's
very
passionate
about
it
and
puts
a
lot
of
his
effort
time.
Political
capital
into
water,
quality
issues,
red
tide,
blue,
green
algae,
those
sorts
of
things
and
so,
and
the
legislature
has
increased
its
levels
of
funding
both
as
to
direct
appropriations
for
projects
like
ours,
but
also
through
dep
programs
like
septic
to
sewer
conversions.
J
The
legislature
itself
has
put
put
an
increasingly
strong
emphasis
on
that.
The
third
reason
I
would
say
it's
going
to
continue
to
trend
up
is
what
I
mentioned
earlier.
Senator
ben
albright
is
his
single
biggest
issue.
He
comes
from
agriculture,
community
and
water
is
he's
been
steeped
in
water
policy
for
as
long
as
I
know
have
known
him,
which
goes
back
to
before
his
days.
Even
in
the
house.
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That
would,
basically,
I
think,
would
be
municipalities
would
not
be
able
to
define
what
a
building
could
look
like.
It
was
something
like
that
it
was.
I
think
it
was
a
if
I
remember
correctly
pretty
much.
It
was
started
by
a
developer
who
wanted
to
build
some
homes
and
they,
I
think,
where
they
wanted
to
build
them.
The
community
was
like
saying,
oh
yeah.
They
have
to
look
like
this
and
they're
saying
that
cost
too
much,
and
so
they
were
trying
to
run
a
bill
through.
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That
would
be
prohibit
all
municipalities,
or,
I
guess
I
would
say,
not
only
municipalities
but
probably
counties
as
well
from
re
from
having
any
kind
of
a
an
ordinance
that
would
that
would
really
restrict
what
a
building
could
look
like
and
we're
going
through.
Form-Based
codes
right
now,
and
that's
a
very
important
thing
here,
as
we
define
what
we
want
our
community
to
look
like
and
feel
like
in
the
ambience,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
people
comment
about.
A
Pangorda
is
the
historic
character
of
the
community,
so
we
know
that's
really
very
important
to
us
and
yet
that
bill
seemed
to,
I
don't
think
it
passed.
It
went
anywhere,
but
it
certainly
didn't
feel
like
it
was
getting
a
lot
of
traction
because
of
lobbying
that
it's
up
there.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that.
J
Madam
chair,
may
I
yes
so
yes,
there
was
a
provision
in
one
of
the
growth
management
bills
that
was
preemptory
in
nature,
and
it
was,
I
think,
responding
somewhat
to
an
anecdotal
situation
in
one
municipality.
As
most
all
of
these
preemption
bills
originate,
but,
as
I
remember
it
vaguely
there
was
a
municipality
who
that
was
making
restrictions,
imposing
requirements
on
the
look
and
character
of
a
building
in
such
a
stringent
way
that,
in
effect,
it
looked
as
though
they
were
targeting
one
particular
project,
and
I
think
that
there
was
pushback
due
to
that.
J
I
remember
seeing
the
original
language
the
preemptory
language
on
that
in
the
growth
management
bill,
and
it
still
had
carved
out
a
fair
amount
of
local
authority
for
aesthetic
type
of
requirements,
but
it
limited
the
abuse
or
use
of
those
for
the
purposes
of
killing
a
project
or
something
like
that.
I
don't
think
it
ultimately
passed.
J
I
will
take
the
task
to
research
that
because,
as
I
remember,
I
saw
later
versions
of
that
that
were
watered
down
quite
a
bit
that
were,
it
appeared
as
though
it
was
somewhat
of
a
compromise,
and
I
don't
think
it
passed
at
the
end.
But
I'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
report
back
through
greg
and
melissa,
where
I
thought
you
were
headed
with.
This
was
the
home-based
business
bill
and
I
don't
know
if
you
all
remember
that
one.
Yes,.
J
If
you
were
to
listen
to
debate
to
the
debate,
you
would
hear
some
say
micromanage,
but
regulate
businesses
based
upon
whether
they
are
operated
out
of
the
home.
It's
a
difficult
area.
It's
a
very
subjective
standard
instances
where
people
are
running
a
home-based
business
that
is
far
more
than
you
know
something
that
has
limited
or
no
impact
on
the
community.
J
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The
employees
of
the
business
are
actual
residents
of
the
home
limitations
on
parking.
That
sort
of
thing,
and
what
it
essentially
says
is
that
local
governments
can
still
regulate
those
businesses,
but
there
are
some
limitations,
some
boundaries
and
that
legislation
originated
from
some
anecdotal
scenarios
where
it
was
perceived.
That
some
local
governments
tampa
gainesville
jacksonville
orlando
miami
winter
park,
clearwater
were
going
far
beyond.
J
It
was
perceived
that
they
were
going
far
beyond
simply
wanting
to
limit
the
impact
on
the
residential
neighborhood,
but
instead
were
prescribing
a
narrow
list
of
businesses
that
somebody
could
engage
in
in
their
own
home
and
on
its
face
that,
may
you
know
that
may
sound
reasonable.
You
don't
want
somebody
to
run
a
distribution
warehouse
center
from
a
house
inside
a
neighborhood.
J
On
the
other
hand,
if
a
retired
veteran
makes
children's
toys
in
his
workshop
and
sells
a
couple
of
them
on
ebay
over
the
course
of
a
year,
is
that
some
really
something
that
government
one
wants
to
prohibit
and
so
somewhere
in
between?
There
is
a
reasonable
level
of
regulation
where
it's
believed
that
this
you
know
that
the
government
has
a
compelling
interest,
and
so
this
bill
tries
to
strike
that
balance.
J
It
essentially
says
that
they
can't
overregulate
those
businesses,
but
they,
but
local
governments
have
the
authority
to
impose
some
reasonable
level
of
regulation
in
order
to
preserve
the
character
of
the
residential
community.
Things
like
parking
signage,
that
sort
of
thing
I'd
sent
a
copy
of
that
bill
on
the
bill
analysis
at
the
close
of
the
legislative
session.
If
there
are
additional
detailed
questions
about
I'll,
be
glad
to
resend
that
and
answer
any
of
those
questions.
Point
by
point.
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I
mean
I
think
there
is
still
an
intent
to
protect
the
residential
character
of
the
neighborhood,
and
so
the
signage
restriction
in
the
legislation
was
along
that
line
so
that,
if
you
drove
by
or
if
you
were
a
neighbor,
you
wouldn't
see
anything
calling
attention
to
the
commercial
nature
of
what
was
going
on
inside.
So
I
think
that
our
prohibition
of
having
trucks
with
signage
commercial
signage
parked
in
the
driveway
would
continue
to
be
viable,
even
in
light
of
the
new
legislation.
J
That
certainly
sounds
consistent
with
what
I
remember
was
the
intent
of
the
bill.
Now
I
think
sometimes
well,
it's
possible
that
constituents
can
merge
two
forms
of
regulation,
what
is
appropriate
for
government
and
what
is
appropriate
for
the
private
sector
through
deed
restrictions,
for
example,
and
there
are
some
residential
communities
that
have
deed
restrictions
that
are
far
more
restricted
on,
particularly
on
issues
like
signage.
D
Questions
for
jerry,
okay!
Well,
thank
you,
we'll
be
looking
at
what
we're
going
to
have
to
put
on
our
legislative
agenda
for
the
next
year
and
I'm
sure
that
septic
disorder
may
be
among
those,
since
this
is
very
very
much
an
issue
in
this
community
and
all
over
the
county,
and
I
know
we're
working
on
a
subject
to
sewer
project
going
forward.
So
we'll
be
talking
with
you
frequently,
I'm
sure
you.
J
Essentially,
use
the
taxing
authority
or
assessment
authority
of
a
local
government
in
order
to
finance
an
improvement
that
they
want.
It's
currently
used
for
things
like
solar
panels,
windstorm
hardening,
so
this
pace
concept
is
getting
more
and
more
debate
in
the
capital
for
septic
to
sewer
statewide.
J
We
have
there's
probably
three
four
billion
dollars
worth
of
septic
to
sewer
conversions
that
need
to
be
done
and
basically
never
do
get
done,
because
government
simply
can't
or
won't
pony
up
that
level
of
money.
So
it's
got
to
be
done
on
the
local
level
and
there's
a
growing
belief
that
there's
going
to
be
a
need
to
draw
private
capital
into
that
process.
So
I'll
look
forward
to
giving
you
updates.
As
that
debate
emerges.
D
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank
you,
jerry!
Okay.
If
there
is
anyone
in
the
audience
that
has
submitted
their
name
for
a
consideration
as
a
board
or
committee
member,
and
you
would
like
to
introduce
yourself
to
council,
you
can
please
come
to
the
podium,
the
guest
podium
and
introduce
yourself.
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So,
first
of
all,
we
have
our
usual
municipal,
marina
activity,
and
you
can
see
there
that
one
of
the
things
that
council
had
a
bit
of
a
concern
with
earlier
in
the
year
was
that
community
room
and
its
use
it
had
looked
like.
We
hadn't
had
a
great
use
of
that
and
we're
starting
to
build
those
numbers
back
up
now,
as
people
begin
to
rent
that
room
again.
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M
M
And
then
we
move
into
the
project
portion
of
our
report
and
the
first
thing
on
there
is
the
wayfinding
signage.
You
know
this
is
a
project
that
council
spent
considerable
amount
of
time
on
we're
getting
really
close
to
get
moving
forward
on
that
we
had
a
little
bit
of
a
slowdown
with
trying
to
match
some
colors
and
make
sure
that
we
had
the
right
poles
in
place.
M
M
M
We
do
not
anticipate
that
this
project
will
be
held
up
or
slowed
down
at
all
we're
able
to
go
ahead
with
ordering
the
equipment.
We
will
put
the
construction
contract
out
to
bid
and
should
be
able
to
have
that
contract
in
front
of
you
at
the
first
meeting
in
january
and
then
move
forward
with
the
build
out
of
the
splash
pad.
M
D
M
N
Yeah
we're
still
on
track.
The
the
deliver
by
date
for
the
contractor
is
still
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
so
that
it
that
when
we
awarded
the
contract,
that
was
his
delivered
by
date,
and
they
still
believe
with
the
delay
in
the
manufacturing
that
they
can
still
get
those
installed
by
the
end
of
the
calendar
year.
Thank
you.
B
N
A
A
N
N
N
That
would
then
be
brought
back
to
council
to
review,
to
say
which
direction
do
we
want
to
go
in
or
some
form
of
that
and
then
move
forward
with
the
actual
design,
so
we're
probably
in
the
initial
discussion
stages
for
probably
the
next
four
four
months
and
that
will
include
you
know
reports
of
what
they
heard
as
well
as
some
3d
renderings
as
well
as
some
you
know
kind
of
walk-throughs
on
the
screen.
So
you
can
see
what
it
looks
like
as
well
as.
N
B
D
D
I
F
D
B
F
A
D
G
This
is
a
resolution
which
does
not
require
public
hearing
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
approving
a
pre-annexation
agreement
with
jones
loop,
road
llc
for
the
property
generally
described
as
9511
mac
george
street,
as
further
described
in
exhibit
a
attached
here
too
and
incorporated
here
in
and
a
portion
of
the
property
generally
described
as
9298
mac
ever
street,
as
further
described
in
exhibit
b
attached
here
to
and
incorporated
herein
authorizing
the
mayor
to
execute
the
agreement
and
providing
an
effective
date.
F
F
A
D
This
whole
parcel
was
originally
annexed
on
the
south
side
of
john's
loop
to
be
commercial,
and
I
know
that
going
forward
there's
a
proposal
for
a
fairly
major
residential
complex
as
part
of
this,
and
I
think
what
we
desperately
need
is
commercial
development
so
going
forward.
We
we
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
that.
D
C
D
G
Yes,
this
also
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
amending
the
budget
for
fiscal
year,
beginning
october,
1
2021
by
providing
for
supplemental
appropriations
in
the
amounts
identified
in
exhibit
a
providing
for
severability.
If
any
of
the
parts
here
of
are
declared
invalid,
providing
for
reading
by
title
only
and
providing
an
effective
date.
F
Kristen
simeone
finance
director,
so
most
of
these
are
items
that
were
discussed
at
the
last
meeting,
which
were
for
a
lot
of
grant
revenues
which
also
equate
to
the
expenditure
to
expend
those
funds,
and
the
one
decrease
was
for
the
f
dot
lap
project
that
on
august,
25th,
council
formally
turned
that
grant
back
to
f
dots.
They
had
they
felt
they
could
do
that
project
on
their
own
versus
going
through
the
city
at
this
time.
F
D
K
C
D
L
Thank
you.
My
name
is
patty
huff.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity,
oh
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
of
allowing
me
to
give
a
presentation
this
morning
on
the
u.s
bike
route
proposed
route
through
charlotte
and
punta
gorda,
I'm
from
everglades
city.
I've
been
involved
with
bicycling
for
the
last
20
years
after
my
husband
and
I
cycled
twice
across
the
united
states,
and
we
decided
that
we
would
promote
bicycling,
safe
cycling,
and
this
is
one
of
the
ways
to
do
it
is
to
make
a
designation
around
different
areas
of
the
country.
L
So
I'll
just
give
you
this
presentation,
we
are
trying
to
build
bicycle
tourism
through
the
efforts
of
the
u.s
bicycle
route
system,
and
this
system
is
a
growing
national
network
of
numbered
and
signed
bicycle
routes.
We
are
officially
approved
by
state
transportation
agencies
and
ashtow.
Ashtow
is
the
american
association
of
streets
and
highways
and
transportation
officials,
and
all
of
this
is
being
coordinated
through
adventure.
Cycling.
L
Adventure,
cycling
is
a
non-profit
organization
with
our
mission
to
inspire,
empower
and
connect
people
to
travel
by
bicycle.
We
have
50
000
miles
routed
throughout
the
country
with
providing
maps
and
organized
tours.
We
have
an
adventure,
cyclist
magazine
and
we're
a
national
advocate
for
safe
cycling.
Throughout
the
united
states
we
have
53
000
members
and
we
have
a
network.
L
Our
original
network
provided
the
blueprint
for
the
first
u.s
bicycle
routes
in
1976
adventure
cycling
sponsored
a
the
first
cross-country
organized
tour
across
the
united
states
to
celebrate
the
bicentennial
and
since
then,
we've
provided
the
technical
support
to
ashtow
for
our
u.s
bike
route
and
the
u.s
bike
route
system
first
started
in
1982.
We
did
a
venture.
Cycling
did
their
first
organizational
ride
in
1976
and
then
the
first
routes
were
designated
by
a
u.s
bicycle
route.
Then
nothing
happened
for
about
22
years
when
the
project
was
restarted
in
2004
and
adventure.
L
L
L
Currently,
the
realignment
of
the
projects
are
to
move
to
small,
quieter
roads
so
like
on
the
east
coast,
we're
working
on
u.s
bike
route
1
to
improve
the
route
which
has
been
established
since
2014,
so
we're
going
back
every
few
years
and
making
improvements,
and
we
can
make
changes
twice
a
year
if
the
local
agencies
decide
that
they
would
like
to
have
the
bike
route
moved
and
then
the
u.s
bike
route.
15
is
sort
of
my
dream
that
I've
had
ever
since
I
got
involved
with
u.s
bike
routes
and
adventure.
L
Cycling
we've
never
had
anything
on
the
west
coast
of
florida.
I
live
in
everglades
city.
I
live
just
just
east
of
naples,
so
I've
been
looking
forward
to
having
something
designated
on
the
west
coast,
so
the
northern
section
was
just
from
georgia
to
madison
florida.
That's
only
14
miles.
So
when
I
proposed
this
to
adventure
cycling
about
a
year
ago,
they
said
well,
why
don't?
L
and
for
u.s
bike
route.
15
there
will
be
19
road
owners.
This
is
means
the
local
jurisdictions
that
will
actually
own
the
roads
that
we're
that
we're
looking
at
what
we're
looking
for
from
each
of
those
jurisdictions
is
a
resolution
or
letter
of
support
to
the
fdot
and
adventure.
Cycling.
Volunteers,
like
myself,
are
doing
the
local
agency
outreach.
L
L
It
will
continue
on
piper
to
then
down
the
right
on
airport
road
south
on
cooper
to
the
pathway
along
u.s
41
going
south.
This
is
the
next
slide
just
talks
about
here.
The
proposed
route-
that's
going
through
there,
just
as
I've
mentioned
about
that.
So
what
we're
looking
for
is
your
comments
about
this,
as
we
as
I
discussed,
we're
continuing
on
down
through
lee
and
collier
county
before
going
over
towards
the
east
coast.
L
L
So
if
certain
roads
are
more
in
are
under
repair
now
like
in
bird
store
road
or
something
like
that,
that
may
be
a
a
better
road
in
the
future,
then
we
can
come
back
and
and
redesignate
that
the
benefits,
of
course,
are
improved
routes
for
bicyclists.
So
when
they
see
a
u.s
bike
route
system
on
the
map,
then
they
know
that
that
has
been
designated
by
the
local
authorities
as
as
the
safest
or
the
the
quietest
or
the
most
beautiful,
to
have
an
experience
through
that
area.
L
It's
of
course,
has
the
benefits
of
positive
health
and
environmental
impacts,
and
then
economic
development
with
bicycle
tourism.
I
mean,
I
think
you
know
that
in
pontic
order
you
have
great
bicycling
facilities
here,
and
I
wish
we
had
more
in
collier
county
that
you
have
here
in
this
area,
and
so
this
is
my
contact.
E
L
L
But
I
took
that
way
and
I
noticed
that
you
know
there
wasn't
any
either
shoulder
or
thing,
but
there
was
a
bike
path
on
the
side
and,
as
I
said,
people
do
ride
on
the
roads,
because
we're
used
to
long
distance
cyclists
are
used
to
traffic,
but
is
there
a
bicycle
path
or
a
sidewalk?
That's
on
airport?
L
For
that
I
don't
know
if
it's
that
whole
that
whole
way,
because
I
didn't
go
all
the
way
to
the
end
just
just
part
of
it
just
part
of
it
probably
and
that's
when
I
turned
around
realized,
I
need
to
get
back
here,
but
so
I
think
you
know
if
the
bicycle
pedestrian
committee
or
someone
here
could
find
you
you're
more
familiar
than
the
to
the
roads
than
I
am
another
route.
You
know.
D
That's
a
valid
concern
and
we
I
told
you
that
when
we
had
the
mpo
board
meeting,
we
very
clearly
stated
and-
and
there
were
all
the
other
commissioners
on
the
board
stated
the
same
thing:
it's
not
a
safe
road
to
consider
using
there's
a
little
bug
flying
around
me.
It's
not
a
safe
road,
in
my
opinion,
to
be
using
as
a
bicycle
route
and
we
suggested
that
they
go
straight
across
piper
road
to
jones
loop
and
come
out
john's
loop
to
41.
D
A
Well,
I
definitely
support
cycling
have
for
years
and
have
a
friend
that
just
got
back
from
a
cycling
trip
in
oregon
with
a
group
and
they
cycled
all
over
and
stayed
in
high-end
hotels.
I
mean
they
spend
a
lot
of
money,
so
there's
a
lot
of
tourism
dollars
that
can
be
achieved
from
this,
but
we
have
four
bicycle
routes
that
have
already
been
designated.
A
A
L
L
We
really
got
to
see
the
individual
cities
that
we
went
to
along
the
hudson
and
it
was
a
great
experience
and
it
does
bring
in
a
lot
of
dollars
to
very
small
towns,
and
it
helps-
and
I
think
when
I
first
looked
at
pontegorda-
I
think
this
is
this.
Is
the
map
that
you're
referring
to
the
all
the
pathways
that
are?
Is
that
the
one
that
comes
right
through
the.
A
F
L
And
I
did
see
that
when
I
was
driving
around
this
morning,
I
kind
of
got
off.
I
took
the
wrong
way
on
cooper
or
something,
and
I
saw
the
bicycle
route.
You
know
I
said
oh,
but
there's
a
bicycle
route
right
there.
You
know,
so
I
mean
and
you're
definitely
more
familiar
with
it.
I
think
when
we
presented
to
the
b-packs
and
that
a
lot
of
them
are
cyclists
that
stay
away
from
the
towns,
they
just
want
to
go
straight
from
a
to
b.
So
you
get
a
lot
of
different
opinions.
L
You
get
people
that
really
want
to
go
through
the
cities
and
people
that
want
to
just
get
the
fastest
way
through
through
the
area,
I'm
one
that
likes
to
go
through
the
cities
and
I'm
always
having
this
issue
with
my
husband
who
always
wants
to
go.
You
know
from
a
to
b,
so
you've
got
both
types
of
cyclists,
but
it's
really
what
the
community
wants
and
I
think,
if
punta
gorda,
the
city
would
like
to
see
more
people
within
the
city
and
see
the
beautiful
parts
of
the
downtown.
L
I
I
know
that
the
I
understand
the
the
adventure
cycling,
you
know,
ethos
of
getting
miles
and
seeing
the
countryside
is
the
primary
focus,
but
this
should
be
one
of
those.
A
or
b
destination
points
that
they're
looking
they're
one
of
their
goal,
points
on
the
route
on
route
15.,
and
if
it
is,
then
that's
a
benefit
to
us
as
a
community.
I
So
we
can
definitely,
if
council
wants
to
push
us
in
that
direction.
We
can
work
with
with
the
group
to
to
identify
an
appropriate
route
and
really
drill
into
the
details,
because
it
is
a
little
complex
getting
from
the
we're
getting
miles
to
we're
in
the
city,
and
we
want
to
stop
and
stay
here
safely
and
efficiently
and
not
interfere
with
the
traffic
situation
that
we
know
we
have
in
key
areas.
I
A
Well,
I
know
that
there
are
two
different
I'll
say:
there
are
two
different
types
of
cyclists.
There
are
the
ones
that
just
want
to
put
the
miles
on
and
when
we've
done
bicycle
events,
if
you
are
the
long
distance
cyclist,
you
really
don't
want
a
lot
of
interruption.
They
love
to
go
out
on
cecil
webb,
where
they
can
just
ride.
You
know
uninterrupted
and
not
have
any
other
traffic
around
them.
A
L
Yeah
I'll
tell
you
really,
I
mean
since
I've
done
a
couple
of
trips
across
the
united
states.
It's
always
the
the
interest
to
see
communities.
Small
communities
really
get
a
feel
for
the
people
that
live
there.
It's
it's
such
a
great
experience.
I
even
tried
again
this
year,
20
years
later,
at
my
age
of
75,
to
go
across
the
united
states.
Unfortunately,
I
picked
the
southern
route
going
from
san
diego
to
jacksonville
and
only
made
it
to
new
mexico
because
it
was
118
degrees.
L
I
ended
up
in
the
hospital
with
dehydration,
so
I
know
going
the
southern
route.
There
were
not
many
towns
from
san
diego
to
texas,
and
so
it
was
not.
I
thought
it
was
probably
the
worst
route
I've
ever
been
on
and
one
that
I
didn't
plan
myself,
that
we've
decided
just
to
to
pick
a
route
that
adventure
cycling
had
picked
and
and
instead
of
going
around,
that
I
normally
do
myself,
which
is
through
all
the
small
towns.
L
So
I
know
the
benefit
of
really
going
through
the
small
towns
and
learning
it,
and
this
isn't
really
the
the
cyclists
that
are
out
there,
like
20
people
at
a
time
or
anything.
Normally,
the
u.s
bike
route
system
is
used
by
independent
individuals
that
are
looking
for
some
guidance
on
how
to
get
across
the
united
states
or
get
come.
I
get
a
lot
of
calls
from
people
because
I
live
in
south
florida
and
they
I'm
with
the
florida
bicycle
association.
L
They
refer
people
to
me
that
want
to
come
down
through
florida
and
they
ask
me
what
is
the
best
route
from
the
panhandle
I'm
coming
from
texas
just
to
come
down
florida
and
I
said
well,
I
really
want
you
to
come
on
the
west
coast
of
florida
and
see
what
we
have
here.
So
I've
proposed
you
know
different
ways
for
them
to
come
down
and
like
when
you're
going
through
parts
like
the
with
the
coochie
you
can
come.
L
You
know
40
miles
straight
down
the
width
of
coochie,
but
you
want
to
also
let
them
go
into
towns
along
the
way
and
there
are
towns
along
the
with
the
coochie.
So
I
mean
to
me
if
I
was
deciding
where
to
go,
I
would
go
through
town
here,
because
that's
what
I
think
a
lot
of
the
long-distance
cyclists
they're
not
here
to
really
race,
they're,
really
they're
gonna.
They
don't
usually
have
a
a
really
short-term
time
frame.
L
They
go
for
weeks
or
months
at
a
time,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
think
I
think,
if
you
would
like
to
recommend
the
council
would
like
to
recommend
what
you
think
are
the
best
routes,
then
we'll
work
together
and
there's
no
rush
in
any
of
this.
I
mean
this
is
a
long
process,
we're
still
working
with
all
the
other
counties
north
of
us,
so
we
don't
have
to
make
a
decision
at
any
particular
time.
John.
C
One
thing
I
think
in
this
regard
as
you're
talking
about
these
two
sides:
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
u.s
bike
route
following
the
model
of
like
the
state
highways
like
us,
41,
there's
a
there's,
a
business
route
and
there's
a
primary,
I
would
say
the
primary
route
should
stay
this
if
anything,
do
go
down
piper
to
to
jones
loop
and
do
that
as
the
primary
us
bike
route
15,
but
you'd
have
an
alternative.
The
business
route,
which
you
could
advise
people
that
they
can
then
go
here.
C
I
would
keep
them
in
the
less
traffic
field.
Faster
moving
areas
in
terms
of
the
primary
route
and
then
but
have
an
alternative
for
them,
so
they
would
know
you
could
direct
them
like.
I
said
this
could
be
the
business
route
through
pontogorda.
You
can
come
through,
but
I
would
say
we're
primarily.
I
would
let
people
still
go
through
this
outer
area
as
to
not
confound
their
lives.
It
lasts
here.
L
A
I'm
a
neighborhood
stroller
and
that's
what
coordinator
vel
calls
me
and
I've
ridden
with
groups
on
coming
in
on
17,
not
not
u.s
17,
but
on
the
the
drive
and
and
we've
come
in
on
marion,
but
we've
also
then
gone
over
to
the
harbor,
walk
and
used
the
harbor,
walk
and
and
come
down
shreve
on
the
the
trail
that
we
have
there
and
then
come
on
down
on
the
trail
on
on
us
41.
That
goes
all
the
way
down
to
taylor.
A
That
eventually,
is
supposed
to
be
widened.
The
trail
all
the
way
down
to
tucker's
grade,
I
believe
so,
which
would
help
on
the
the
us-41.
So
there
are
safe
ways
to
be
able
to
navigate
where
you
don't
have
to
be
in
with
the
cars,
if
you,
if
you
really
want
to-
and
I
think
that
those
are
on
our
website
and
then
mitchell's
an
expert
at
it,
and
so
he
could
advise
that
very
well.
So
I
also
agree
with
the
comment
about
airport
road,
so.
D
I
think
that
the
other
thing
too
is
we
go
in
and
out
of
the
city
limits
when
you're
going
down
any
of
these
roads
coming
from
the
east
and
you're,
also
dealing
with
railroad
tracks
coming
over
airport
road
or
jones
lupro.
That's
that's
also
a
consideration
that
you
may
have
to
get
approval
to
use
that
as
an
approved
bike
route
when
you're
going
over
a
railroad
track,
but
but
we
have
a
lot
of
non-contiguous
parcels
of
land
that
are
not
in
the
city
limits
in
any
of
this
description
that
you're
talking
about.
D
So
that's
also
something
you
have
to
take
into
consideration,
because
you
probably
also
need
county
approval
right
for
some
of
the
same
roads
we're
talking
about
because
parts
of
it
may
be
in
the
city,
but
parts
of
it
may
be
in
the
county.
So
that's
another
consideration.
Our
city
attorney
has
his
hand
up.
L
Well,
fdot
is
the
agency,
the
central
agency,
I
mean
all
the
individual
dots
throughout
the
country,
and
so
the
fdot
receives
all
the
information
and
works
with
the
u.s
bike
route
system.
To
actually
do
the
designation,
but
the
fdot
also
has
to
be.
You
know,
sign
off
on
it,
but
they
want
a
letter
of
recommendation
or
something
from
the
individual
jurisdictions
to
to.
Let
them
know
that
this
has
gone
through
the
process
of
them.
Approving
of
this
there's,
no
really,
you
know,
there's
no
maintenance
involved
or
anything
like
that
or
necessary
signage.
L
E
If
god
wanted
us
to
ride
on
two
wheels,
he
wouldn't
have
invented
cars,
but
that's
my
life
motto.
No,
I
don't
I
I
don't
understand
this.
You've
got
53
000
members
right,
yes,
and
so
we're
spending
all
this
time
designating
a
safe
roadway
for
how
many
people
a
year
are
going
to
travel
through
punta
gorda
on
your
bike
route.
L
You
know
it's
hard
to
to
know.
Bicycling
has
changed
a
lot
over
the
last
20
years
and
especially
since
the
pandemic,
there's
been
even
an
increase
in
more
bicycles
on
the
road.
It's
been
a
shortage
of
purchasing
bicycles,
but
when
I
started
really
22
years
ago,
there
was
hardly
any
information
out
there
about
bicycle
routes
or
our
network
of
routes
or
anything.
But
it's
been,
I
mean
because
I
mean
we're
doing
it.
L
L
I
think
that's
becoming
more
popular
through
means
like
strava
and
some
of
the
other
places
that
you
can
get
data
of
where
of
the
bicyclists
going
through
they,
I
think,
carrie
irons,
who's,
our
that
does
this
all
over
the
country
is
much
more
aware
of
that,
but
I
think
he
says
something
like
maybe
2000
people
will
come.
You
know
through
at
the
most
come
through
your
your
area
right
now.
The
way
that
people
are
cycling
now
through
area
so
because.
E
M
E
L
E
L
You
know
it's
it's
for
a
lot
of
communities
like
when
I
was
in
new
york.
I
wasn't
familiar
with
that
area
at
all,
but
we
we
mostly
stayed
on
the
roads,
but
then
there
was
a
pedestrian
area
that
we
were
going
to
be
going
over.
It
was
the
highest
pedestrian,
cycling
bridge
near
faikipi,
and
they
told
us
you
know
they
gave
us
the
warning.
L
They
said
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
pedestrians
along
this
that
walk
the
across
the
hudson
river
and
I
mean
over
the
hudson
river,
and
so
they
asked
you
know
this
was
an
organized
tour,
but
they
said
there
were
16
of
us.
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
you
respect
the
pedestrians.
There
will
be
pedestrians
on
the
the
on
the
bridge
and
also
you
know
the
pedestrians
have
the
right
of
way.
L
So
a
lot
of
cyclists
that
are
on
the
organized
tours
that
may
have
10
or
15
people
or
up
to.
I
think
our
group
allows
up
to
20
that
we
were
with.
Then
you
know
they're
they're,
cautioned
on
that.
This
is
an
area
where
they're
pedestrians
and
a
lot
of
people
just
walk
their
bikes
too,
and
some
people
will
stay
off
of
the
like
harbor
walk
and
then
just
stay
on
the
road
too.
A
I
I
just
completely
understand
where
debbie's
coming
from-
and
I
think
I
reflect
on
court's
comment
to
me
when
he
said
when
he
first
got
moved
here-
that
he
really
hardly
saw
a
cyclist,
but
we
see
lots
more
of
them
now
and,
and
it's
become
much
more
popular
to
get
out
and
get
on
a
bike
based
on
what
you've
said.
I'm
envisioning!
A
L
Yeah
we
appreciate
comments
from
everyone
and
I
think
the
the
going
forward.
What
we
need
to
do
is
to
work
with
mitchell
and
figure
out.
You
know
whatever
the
consensus
is
whatever
you
feel
as
a
as
a
council
would
be
the
most
appropriate
route.
You
know
maybe
stay
off
of
the
pedestrian
but
still
get
through
the
city,
and
you
know
and
and
enjoy
the
city
and
just
let
people
know
you
know,
what's
here
in
pentagon,.
D
F
F
I
think
real
bicyclists
and
I'm
not
one
of
those
know
how
to
how
to
manipulate
wherever
they're
going
and
the
good
cyclists
don't
take
advantage
of
pedestrians.
The
people
I
do,
the
police
patrol
for
the
cycling
and
especially
in
our
harbor,
walk
in
that
area.
The
people
that
are
speeding
are
not
real
cyclists.
F
They
are
they've,
often
got
the
electric
bikes
now,
and
these
are
just
local
people
that
are
going
way
too
fast
through
an
area
where
they're
a
lot
of
pedestrians,
so
I
always
have
found
I
can
you
can
almost
spot
a
real
cyclist
when
you
see
them
because
they
they
first
of
all
look
different
they're
dressed
differently
and
they
got
appropriate
bikes
and
they
they
pay
attention
to.
What's
going
on
around
them.
So
and
a
lot
of,
I
would
say,
90
of
the
people
you
see
in
puna
gorda
are
not
those
people.
L
D
J
G
G
I
don't
know
that
we've
had
much
use
for
it
since
the
advent
of
lift
and
uber
and
things
of
that
nature.
And
when
you
look
at
the
when
you
look
at
the
ordinance
it,
it
has
what
what
the
courts
now
consider
to
be
standardless
discretionary
opportunity
to
make
decisions
by.
In
this
case
it
would
be
the
chief
of
police
and
so
in
order
to
adopt
an
ordinance
to
regulate
that
meets
current
requirements.
G
B
To
this,
so
it's
the
community
development
program
up
in
charlotte
county,
any
taxi
or
vehicle
for
hire
that
wants
to
operate
in
charlotte
county
has
to
get
a
permit
through
them
and
they
have
a
whole
big
process
in
place.
I
spoke
to
the
license
manager
monday
and
and
she's
very
confident
that,
if
they're
operating
in
the
city
they're
operating
in
the
county,
so
the
best
thing
for
them
to
do
is
just
to
get
the
permit
through
the
county.
B
G
G
B
A
G
Now
we
still
do
have
in
our
code
and
relatively
recently
adopted
for
the
I
think
they
call
them
pedicabs.
You
know
rickshaws
and
horse-drawn
carriages,
but
those
they
were
asking
for
specific
routes
of
operation
and
and
obviously
with
sanitation
other
things.
So
we
you
know,
we
have
a
standard
with
criteria
as
to
how
to
apply
for
that,
and
that
is,
in
my
opinion,
distinguishable
from
the
the
taxi.
The
old
taxi.
A
E
D
I
Resiliency
compact
that
compact
is
meeting
is
having
its
first
major
organizational
and
operational
meeting
on
october.
8Th
this
friday,
members
of
urban
design
staff
will
be
attending
virtually
the
meeting.
Intent
is,
is
a
working
meeting
to
address
the
organizational
and
operational
structure
of
this
regional
compact
moving
forward
and
the
organizers,
the
conveners
of
the
of
the
meeting
and
the
driving
force
behind
this.
To
this
point
is
florida
gulf
coast
university's,
professor
michael
cevarisi,
and
their
intent
is
to
stand
up
this
organization,
and
then
it
becomes
the
the
product
of
the
member
governments.
I
If,
if
there
was
a
elected
official
that
was
going
to
attend
that
meeting
or
if
staff
should
take
that
just
individually
at
this
point
in
time,
I
know
that
we
have
two
members
coming
on
and
just
a
little
bit
of
time,
but
this
is
really
the
kickoff
of
getting
that
organization
stood
up.
So
it
is
kind
of
critical.
D
I
still
have
a
question
about
what
the
purpose
of
this
committee
is
going
to
be
and
how
it
overlaps
with
southwest
florida
regional
planning
council,
because
we
already
have
a
number
of
different
organizations
already
meeting
for
several
of
these
same
purposes,
and
I
think
this
is
redundant.
I
said
that
last
year,
when
we
talked
about
it
and
I
think
nancy,
I
think
you
agreed
with
me
on
it.
I
you
know
this
is
another.
One
of
those
people
are
organizing
just
to
have
meetings,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
end
goal
is
of
this
committee.
D
But
my
understanding
was
that
joan
lebeau
is
taking
the
lead
as
the
city
liaison
for
this.
Yes,
I
I
would
recommend
that
we
don't
appoint
a
council
member
until
the
new
council
members
are
seated
and
then
we
can
discuss
it
at
that
time.
If
we're
going
to
proceed
with
it,
I
just
I
still
have
a
concern
and
a
question
about
the
purpose
and
the
end
goal.
C
A
Okay,
I
agree
with
you
ever
since
the
beginning
of
this.
It's
it's
joan
has
taken
a
leadership
role
in
helping
our
community
and
this
started
years
ago
with
the
the
climate
adaptation
planning,
and
so
the
city
was
actually
an
international
leader
in
in
that,
so
we
were
actually
ahead
of
our
time.
I
guess
I
would
say
in
in
doing
that,
along
with
actually
is
dr
lisa
bieber
from
the
southwest
florida
regional
planning
council
at
the
time
or
no,
she
was
with
chennai.
I
A
And
as
this
has
evolved,
my
concern
is
then,
where
what
are
they
really
wanting
the
communities
to
then
do?
And
what
is
this
going
to?
What
are
we
going
to
find
ourselves
like
a
lot
of
this?
You
go
well
yeah,
it
makes
sense,
yeah,
yeah
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
you
find
you
kind
of
backed
into
having
to
do
something,
and
it's
like
wait
a
minute.
That
was
not
our
intention.
A
I
A
I
If
I,
if
I
may
address
that
specifically
the
there
are
similar
concerns
coming
out
of
other
other
member
organizations,
I
know
that
that
one
of
the
county
county
managers
sent
an
extensive
list
of
questions
and
concerns
regarding
the
compacted
structure
and
what
the
commitments
will
be.
So,
I
think
from
other
leaderships,
within
the
many
organ
municipalities,
there
are
and
counties
there.
There
are
similar
concerns
and
from
what
I've
heard
on
the
the
organizer,
the
convener
side
at
fgcu,
the
intent
of
these
meetings.
I
I
I
So
the
the
estuary
programs
program
area
and
the
southwest
florida
resiliency
compacts
program
area
are
different.
There's
a
significant
area
of
overlap
in
terms
of
charlotte
and
lee,
but
collier
county
is
not
part
of
the
estuary
programs
program
area.
Okay,
so
that
that's
part
of
it
is
is
just
having
that
the
three
coastal
counties
really
being
in
some
organization
that
is
focused
on
this.
There
may
be
other
organizations
like
the
regional
planning
council,
where
we're
also
in
theory
in
that
together
as
well.
I
D
There
may
be
a
reason
to
combine
those
two
committees
and,
and
have
it
be,
give
them
a
purpose,
for
once
I
mean
yeah,
we've
always
had
a
problem
when
all
of
us
have
had
a
problem
any
who
have
ever
been
to
their
meetings.
The
regional
planning
council
seems
to
be
looking
for
a
goal
and-
and
they
don't
seem
to
be
getting
too
far
with
doing
that.
A
D
Well,
you
know
we
had
four
counties
out
of
the
six
member
counties
where
the
regional
planning
council
stopped
paying
membership
dues
and
withdrawing
literally
from
a
required
participation
committee,
because
they
didn't
feel
that
that
committee
was
going
anywhere.
So
I
I
would
strongly
suggest
that
that
everyone
on
that
committee
take
a
look
at
combining
their
efforts
and
making
something
happen
out
of
their
efforts.
I
So
two
things
julie,
just
whispered
in
my
ear
that
jennifer
hecker
will
be
at
the
at
the
first
organizational
meeting
of
the
resiliency
compact,
so
she'll
have
a
voice
there
or
the
regional
or
the
national
estuary
program
will
have
a
voice
there.
As
far
as
the
the
regional
planning
council,
that
suggestion
actually
makes
a
whole
lot
of
sense.
D
I
just
think
that
no
elected
official
anywhere
needs
more
meetings
on
their
calendar
and
really
and
I'm
not
making
that
up.
I
mean
you
know
we
right
now:
we're
considered
part-time,
but
it's
kind
of
a
joke
because
we
spend
60
to
80
hours
a
week
doing
our
job,
and
you
know
I.
The
last
thing
I
need
is
to
have
another
committee
appointment
put
on
my
calendar.
So
ja,
you
had
your
hand.
C
There's
a
there's,
a
redundancy,
I
yes,
I
think
that
conversation
needs
to
happen
about
possibly
combining
missions,
because
that's
really
one
of
the
core
missions
of
you
know.
The
state
formations
of
the
regional
planning
council
is
resiliency
specifically
for
these
areas
that
are
covered
here
and
and
to
truth,
be
told.
Collier
and
henry
county,
which
are
sort
of
strong
ones
in
here
are
very
much
involved
in
the
noun
they've
kind
of
they
return
to
the
picture.
So
yeah
yeah,
we'll
see
where
this
goes.
D
A
So
I
I
don't
that's
kind
of
quieted
down,
because
I
remember
our
economic
development
director
from
charlotte
county
was
like
watching
this.
You
know
go
on,
and
so
that
has
quieted
down,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
still
some
an
issue
between
the
southwest
florida,
regional
planning,
council,
council
and
fgcu.
That's
continued
on
so
pay
attention
to
hot.
Thank
you.
D
K
D
For
the
process
in
general,
I
just
had
one
question,
and
that
is
since
we
are
getting
ready
to
do
a
transition
of
council
members.
I
think
that
the
and
no
disrespect
to
the
current
council
members,
but
I
think
the
new
council
members
should
be
the
people
appointing
people
from
their
district
just
because
from
one
council
member
to
the
next,
you
may
have
different
ideas
of
what
needs
to
be
changed,
and
maybe
you
guys
can
communicate
with
your
successors.
A
D
A
C
K
D
K
D
Okay,
yeah
we're
still
we're
still
about
two
and
a
half
months
ahead
of
where
we
were
in
2016,
and
I
know
that
I
spoke
to
karen
and-
and
there
was
concern
that
that
committee
convened
a
little
too
late
in
the
process.
So
I
think
that
makes
more
sense
to
get
it
started
in
november.
And
that
gives
them
a
little
bit
of
lead
time
and
maybe
even
have
an
organizational
meeting
before
christmas
time.
K
Two
unexpired
alternate
terms
on
the
code
enforcement
board
and
one
unexpired
term
on
the
planning
commission,
and
we
should
hopefully
have
someone
to
present
to
you
for
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
and
the
planning
commission
at
the
next
meeting.
So
those
will
be
dwindling
with
any
luck,
then
under
nominations.
We
have
two
regular
terms
on
the
code
enforcement
board.
Mr
roland
erickson
has
requested
reappointment
to
the
ct
forfeit
for
the
absence
policy
for
the
term
until
november
15
2021.,
considering
how
soon
that
term
is
set
to
expire.
E
E
To
me
that
makes
a
big
difference
on
whether
or
not
he
would
continue
on.
If
he
just
you
know,
just
disappeared
and
nobody
knew
where
he
was,
even
though
it
was.
You
know
important.
I
would
look
at
that
differently
than
somebody
who,
let
us
know
each
step
of
the
way
that
he
was
not
going
to
be
available.
F
I
D
I
also
received
an
email
from
him
and
I
know
you
guys
do
too,
but
I
got
a
separate
email
in
addition
to
that
and
requesting
that
that
we
give
consideration
to
reinstating
him.
He's
been
on
the
committee
for
a
while,
and
I
know
he
has
a
very
vested
interest
in
it.
I
we
can
certainly
do
whatever
you
want,
but
so,
if,
if
we
have
two
nominations,
we
could
nominate
and
appoint
both
him
and
mrs
higgins,
is
that
correct?
A
K
D
A
D
D
K
You
very
much
that's
very
exciting
and
then
under
appointments.
We
have
an
unexpired
regular
term
until
november
1st
2022
on
the
puna
gorda
isles
canal,
advisory
committee,
misters,
jeffrey
d'amico,
frank,
lepore
and
timothy
sullivan
have
expressed
an
interest
in
serving
mr
laporte,
currently
serves
on
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
as
well,
which
is
a
quasi-judicial
non-decision
making
board.
B
C
D
D
F
B
D
K
M
M
My
other
comment
would
be
punta
gorda
in
bloom,
I'd
like
to
congratulate
all
of
our
residents
and
team
punta
gorda,
and
the
committee
itself
for
puna
gorda
in
bloom
for
winning
the
america
in
bloom
award,
which
is
pretty
exciting,
and
it's
a
great
honor
for
our
community,
and
just
thank
you
to
all
of
our
staff
and
city
council
who
have
been
so
willing
to
pivot
this
week.
It's
been
a
a
good
week
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
G
Like
to
give
you
a
brief
litigation
update
last
week,
the
exact
address
I
don't
want
to
misquote
it,
but
the
bel
air
court,
foreclosure
code
enforcement,
lien
foreclosure,
the
sale,
was
conducted
last
week.
There
were
no
bidders,
so
the
city
is
now
the
proud
owner
of
that
that
address
it's,
that
it's
valued
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
worthwhile
property.
G
I
believe,
there's
a
like
a
approximately
twenty
thousand
dollar
tax
liability
that
the
city
would
need
to
pay
in
order
to
perfect
its
title
on
the
property,
but
then
we'll
have
it
free
and
clear,
and
it
is
a
valuable
property.
I'm
not
sure.
I
think
there
was
in
anticipation
that
there
would
be
more
bidders
originally.
It
was
scheduled
for
a
tax
sale
earlier
last
week,
but
when
the
it's,
my
understanding
when
the
clerk
was
county
clerk
was
advised
that
proper
notice
wasn't
sent
out,
including
notice
to
the
city.
G
They
they
canceled
the
tax
sale.
So
that
allowed
our
sale
to
go
forward
and,
like
I
said,
we'll,
we'll
be
able
to
pay
off
the
tax
and
then
on
the
property
free
and
clear
the
we're
awaiting
the
court
to
enter
the
order
of
taking
on
the
on
the
four
lots
that
we
are
seeking
by
eminent
domain
for
the
boat
grand
drainage
project.
G
I'm
not
sure
what
the
hold
up
there
is.
The
statutory
notice
provision
has
been
satisfied
and
we'll
try
to
follow
up
and
kind
of
prod
the
court
along
with
that
order.
But
once
the
order
is
signed,
then
that
property
it
belongs
to
us
and
we'll
have
to
pay
the
amount
that
we
indicated
was
the
value
of
those
properties,
and
I
think
it
was
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars
a
piece.
G
We
have
trying
to
arrange
a
meeting
with
city
staff
regarding
the
shoreline
foundation
litigation.
We
do
have
a
non-binding
arbitration
set
for
november.
I
believe
so
we're
going
to
prepare
for
that
and
discuss
with
staff.
After
I
think
the
discovery
is
still
ongoing
and,
as
you
probably
have
seen
from
my
past
invoices,
the
volume
of
documents
that
are
have
been
requested
and
we
need
to
review
before
we
can
give
out
the
public
records
that
might
have
confidential
information
on
them.
G
E
E
Why
I'm
saying
this?
I
I
don't
want
any
of
us
to
forget
that
the
people
on
barrel
are
having
a
bill.
Our
court
are
living
with
a
rat
house
in
the
middle
of
their
neighborhood
and
it
is
disgusting.
It's
been
that
way
for
a
couple
years.
I
know
I've
been.
That
was
my
very
first
thing
when
I
got
on
city
council
was
that
I
wanted
to
get
that
taken
care
of.
So
it's
still,
I
mean
we've
treated
it.
E
I
know
that
we've
gone
out
a
couple
of
times
and
exterminated,
but
they
just
come
right
back
because
there's
no
way
to
keep
them
out.
So
just
you
know
my
fear
and
their
fear
is
that
somebody's
going
to
come
in
and
raise
the
building
and
the
rats
are
just
going
to
scatter.
So
that's
why
I'm
bringing
it
up
remediation.
D
G
D
G
E
D
Never
have
I
ever
yeah,
that's
all.
I
have
thank
you,
okay,
okay
city
clerk,
do
you
have
anything
additional
okay
council?
As
far
as
my
comments
only
one
thing,
I
I've,
given
you
all
a
postcard
for
the
airshow
reception,
and
I
would
invite
you
to
participate
next
week
and
you
and
a
spouse
can
can
come
to
that
event.
And
if
you
want
to
respond
to
me
directly,
you
can
do
that
and
I
will
make
sure
that
it
gets
given
to
the
military
heritage
museum
folks.
But
I
hope
you
can
all
join
us.
B
A
B
B
E
You
know
I
didn't
even
realize
that
there
was
an
issue
until
I
got
an
email
about
meeting
with
melissa
on
monday,
and
I
felt
terrible
because
I've
been
communicating
with
greg
all
weekend.
I
had
no
idea
so
I
just
I
just
think
it's
amazing
that
everybody
seems
to
do
their
job
no
matter
what
time
of
day
or
when
it
is,
it
gets
done,
and
I
just
am
so
appreciative
of
that.
Thank
you
very
much,
john.
D
Yeah,
indeed,
for
anyone
who
may
be
watching
this
meeting
from
home,
halloween
is
coming
up
in
the
city
and
the
city
is
going
to
be
doing
a
major
event
in
the
city
hall
parking
garage
annex
and
we
would
love
for
people
in
the
community
to
donate
candy
for
the
kids.
If
you
are
so
willing
to
do
so,
and
you
may
drop
it
off
at
any
of
our
city
hall
buildings
and
they,
it
will
make
sure
it
gets
to
the
folks
that
are
organizing
the
event.
D
For
those
who
have
never
participated,
there's
several
thousand
people
that
descend
upon
the
city
limits
and
come
and
trick-or-treat
and
costume,
and
it's
a
lot
of
fun
and
we
are
closing
many
of
the
downtown
streets
between
marion
and
retta
and
marion
and
olympia
so
that
kids
are
safe
and
we'll
have
police
on
staff
and
volunteers,
doing
traffic
control.
So
it's
a
wonderful
event
and
hope
everyone
can
participate
in
it
and
there
being
no
further
business.
We
are
adjourned.