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From YouTube: Regular City Council Meeting 11-17-2021
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Regular City Council Meeting 11-17-2021
B
Good
morning,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
november
17
2021
city
council
meeting
for
the
city
of
punta
gorda.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
all
city,
council,
members
and
city
officials
are
present
or
in
the
building.
If
you
would
please
stand
and
join
me
for
the
invocation,
followed
by
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
C
We
thank
you
for
the
freedom
that
we
enjoy
in
this,
the
united
states
of
america,
and
we
continue
to
ask
your
blessing
upon
this
nation
and
all
those
in
authority,
and
we
thank
you
for
our
first
responders
and
the
freedom
that
the
military
and
they
afford
us.
We
thank
you
for
being
here
and
we
ask
for
your
peace
to
reign
today
at
charlotte,
high
school,
and
thank
you
for
your
grace
and
your
wisdom
in
this
meeting
today
in
jesus
name,
amen.
B
Okay,
with
everyone's
permission
on
the
council,
I
would
like
to
do
the
presentations
before
we
do.
Citizen
comments.
Is
everybody?
Okay
with
that?
Okay,
okay,
and
with
that
we
have
the
first
presentation
and
I'm
gonna
go
out
and
around
to
the
podium.
So
I
can
do
this
presentation
I'll
be
right
back.
B
B
Since
1973
she
has
garnered
12
number
one
radio
hits
in
the
jazz
and
blues
world
two
number
one
spots
on
the
billboard:
contemporary
jazz,
album
chart
and
two
number
three
spots
on
the
billboard
blues
album
chart
in
2018
mindy
a
bear
and
the
bone.
Shakers
won.
Eight
independent
blues
awards,
including
artist
of
the
year
and
best
blues
song,
fan
award
for
the
independent
music
awards
for
pretty
good
for
a
girl
featuring
joe
bonamassa.
B
B
She
was
nominated
by
the
blues
music
awards
as
the
best
instrumentalist
horn
she's,
a
native
floridian
raised
in
the
tampa
bay
area,
but
her
affinity
with
punta
gorda
includes
once
owning
a
house
in
our
historic
district.
She
has
made
punta
gorda
wine
and
jazz
festival
her
home
for
many
years,
spinning
off
her
very
own
mindy.
A
bears
punta
gorda
wine
and
jess
festival,
starting
in
2018.
B
punta
gorda,
is
truly
in
her
heart
and
the
affinity
and
love
she
has
for
this
town,
her
fans
and
the
punta
gorda
chamber
of
commerce,
not
to
mention
john
wright,
who
promote
her
shows,
is
visible
to
all
eric.
Her
husband
and
mindy
truly
enjoy
their
visits
to
punta
gorda
hanging
with
john
wright
and
his
crew.
B
Who,
year
on
year,
raised
the
bar
to
present
the
very
best
in
live
jazz
music
from
internationally
acclaimed
artists?
This
year,
mindy
will
be
performing
from
november
17th
to
19th
at
three
different
locations
in
punta
gorda
and
mindy.
I
have
a
very
special
presentation.
This
is
something
we
just
started
doing
since
I
became
mayor.
This
is
the
city
of
punta
gorda's,
mayor's
ambassador
award,
and
I
would
love
to
present
this
to
you.
Please.
D
E
F
D
D
D
H
I
H
D
B
A
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
pontogorda
florida
does
program
november
2021
through
december
24th
2021,
as
shop
charlotte
month
in
the
city
of
ponte.
Gordon
encourages
consumers
to
make
every
effort
to
support
local
merchants
in
stores
within
charlotte
county
by
shopping.
Charlotte
passively,
adopted
israeli
session,
signed
lynn
smear
and
giving
this
to
bob
wright.
D
So,
who
would
want
to
follow
that
right
anyway,
to
the
city
council?
Thank
you
very
much
for
this.
I
could
not
have
said
it
better
myself.
You
know
with
our
organization
and
our
membership.
We
are
all
about
shop
local
at
all
times
whether
it's
anywhere
within
the
footprint
of
charlotte
county
and
beyond.
B
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
saturday
december
11
2021
as
christmas
parade
day
and
urges
all
citizens
to
share
in
the
fun
for
the
christmas
parade
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
The
17th
day
of
november
2021
signed
lynn
matthews
mayor
and
accepting
is
bob
white.
D
No
one's
ever
been,
I
highly
encourage
whether
you
have
an
entry
or
you
just
be
a
bystander
and
look
on
there's
a
couple
thousand
people
lying
up
between
carmaleta
camareta
and
all
the
way
down
to
taylor
to
the
event
center.
It's
just
it's
a
great
feeling
and
we
love
our
community
and
we
do
all
that
we
can.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Yep.
K
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
puna
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
the
week
of
november
17-24
2021
as
national
farm
city
week
and
encourages
all
citizens
to
recognize
the
contributions
of
our
local
farmers,
farm
workers,
growers
and
ranchers
to
our
economy,
our
food
supply
and
our
society
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
The
17th
day
of
november
2021
city
puna
gorda
signed
mayor
lynn,
matthews
and
accepting
as
lindsey
harrington.
L
Well,
we're
not
we're
on
a
different
side,
we're
not
about
raising
crops,
we're
about
training,
young
people
here
in
southwest
florida
or,
if
throughout
the
state
or
wherever
we're
trying
to
train
them
on
being
business
managers
in
agriculture,
so
you're
familiarizing
with
the
industry
and
the
industries
and
some
industries
and
and
teach
them
in
those
things
that
are
needed
for
management,
administration,
accounting,
whatever
it
may
be,
and
marketing.
And,
of
course,
these
sub
industries
have
a
lot
of
contacts,
but
anyway
that's
what
the
center
does.
L
L
B
B
L
L
The
history
really
speaks
to
who
you
are
okay,
and
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
which
are
in
the
billions
that
are
generated
in
tourism,
we'd
be
foolish
to
not
support
a
building
as
historical
as
the
ac
freeman
house.
We'd
also
be
remiss
not
to
acknowledge
the
great
work
the
puente
gorte
historical
society
does
with
the
history
park
and
and
the
train
depot
and
the
women's
club,
but
the
history
center
we're
in
archives,
okay
and
we're
we're
we're
burging
at
the
seams.
L
B
L
And
I'm
sure
it
won't
take
very
long,
but
I
was
very
interested
in
this
farm-based
code
and
I
won't
be
able
to
attend
thursday.
So
I
get
on
the
web
page
and
I
try
to
find
information
on
it
and
I
find
it
extremely
difficult
to
find
anything
about
this
form-based
code
and
the
workshop
that's
going
to
be
held
like
any
of
the
background
information.
What
are
their
proposals?
What
it's
all
about,
so
I
I'm
not
sure
how
I
go
about
getting
that.
L
I
did
send
an
email
to
melissa
about
it
and
I
haven't
heard
a
response
back,
but
how?
How
do
you
go
about
finding
someone
who
knows
how
to
find
information
on
here?
I
looked
and
couldn't
even
find
the
agenda,
and
I
pretty
well
know
how
to
use
all
of
this,
but
so
I'm
just
asking:
is
there
a
contact
within
the
city
to
go
to
for
general
information.
J
L
Good
morning,
good
morning
for
the
record,
todd
helt
in
the
information
technology
department
on
the
gis
analyst
there
glad
to
be
here
today,
council,
I'm
a
nominee
for
the
representative
for
the
city
to
the
charlotte
county
veterans
council.
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
quick
background
on
myself.
In
terms
of
a
veteran
I
am
an
army
veteran.
I
am
a
combat
veteran
of
the
persian
gulf
war
where
I
served
with
first
armor
division
and
third
infantry
division.
L
I
currently
volunteer
in
different
veteran
capacities
at
the
military
ridge
museum,
where
I
play
the
bugle
for
different
events
and
also
for
other
events
in
town
and
I've
had
experience
with
the
charlotte
county
veterans
council.
I
was
was
previously
as
secretary
the
secretary
for
the
organization
last
last
year
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
serving.
Hopefully
I
appreciate
the
the
support
that
council
provides
to
veterans
and
veterans
activities
in
this
community.
L
I
appreciate
the
citizens
that
support
veterans
in
such
a
great
veteran
friendly
community
and
things
like
your
beautiful
post
bob
friday
as
part
of
the
county
chamber
conference.
So
anyway,
if
there's
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
them
at
that
agenda
item.
But
I
look
forward
to
serving
thank
you
very
much.
B
No,
it's
a
very
important
position
and,
as
we
talked
about
at
the
last
council
meeting,
I
thought
it
was.
It
was
important
that
we
put
a
veteran
in
that
position
and
during
the
council
meeting
todd
actually
emailed
chief
davis
and
we
got
all
connected
and
talked
about
it.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
offering
and
we're
looking
forward
to
having
you
represent
us.
Hopefully
thank.
B
M
B
G
I
Good
morning
for
the
record
mitchell,
austin
principal
planner
city
of
pentagorda
urban
design
and
the
loop
annexation
area
is
the
area
in
which
these
next
two
items
are
going
to
be
discussing,
and
it's
it's
rather
a
complex
and
long
history.
We
wanted
to
briefly
cover
that
so
that
everyone
is
aware
of
what's
happening
in
that
area
so
way
back
before
the
great
recession
charlotte
county
approved.
I
I
in
2020,
the
parkside
puna
gorda
development
was
approved
for
street
vacation,
a
comprehensive
plan
amendment
and
a
planned
development
approval,
and
in
this
year
in
2021,
they
received
a
drc
approval.
That
is
for
297
multi-family
dwellings
this
year,
there's
a
proposal
for
a
planned
development,
and
that's
on
that
that
bluish
parcel
right
there.
I
So
in
terms
of
the
development
potential,
assuming
that
everything
was
was
done
again,
we
have
the
the
two
approved
developments
and
the
proposed
development.
The
remaining
area
is
in
yellow
that
that
area
contain
is
existing
highway
commercial
zoning,
the
primary
uses
permitted
under
that
a
retail
restaurant
and
hotel
and
office.
I
It
would
be
approximately
just
over
87
acres
and
based
on
the
existing
allowances.
There
would
be
up
to
575
thousand
square
feet
of
retail
space.
Our
commercial
space
could
be
developed
on
that
on
those
parcels,
the
floor
area,
you
know
to
put
575
000
feet
into
perspective,
that's
greater
than
the
than
the
combined
floor
area
of
all
the
developments
listed
there,
which
represent
all
the
major
shopping
centers
in
the
city
of
pontogorda.
I
I
I
I
I
out
of
those
450
297,
have
been
used
for
the
parkside
punta
gorda
project
and
the
proposed
development
is
proposed
at
240,
so
it
would
exceed
the
total
original
density
allotment.
However,
the
property
owner
does
have
the
flexibility
under
our
zoning
and
under
the
the
county's
plan,
to
provide
additional
tdus
transfer
density
units
to
the
property,
so
they
they
would
be
responsible
for
bringing
those
in
excess.
I
N
I
So
there's
a
big
question
mark
hanging
over
both
of
those
markets
locally.
What
I
can
say
is
that,
based
on
the
economic
study
that
was
part
of
the
the
2019
planned
puna
gorda
process,
that
that
document
says
that
there's
a
potential
for
additional
commercial
in
this
area
based
on
population
growth
over
time
over
the
next
10
years
and
there's
potentially
the
opportunity
for
some
additional
hotel
rooms.
I
I
South
of
the
river
is
the
market
for
any
development
like
conventional
development,
because
in
terms
of
commercial
retail,
there's
really
three
types:
there's
commodities,
so
your
daily
needs
the
grocery
store,
et
cetera,
that's
really
based
on
population.
You
got
to
have
population
to
support
each
one
of
those
facilities.
I
So
we
want
to
be
in
places
where
we
can
see
other
people
and
meet
them
or
at
least
observe
them.
So
that's
that
category
that
third
category
is
the
one
that
will
potentially
grow
regardless
of
what
happens
with
online
retailing
or
population,
because
it's
an
attractor
and
we're
a
tourism
visitor
driven
economy
in
southwest
florida.
So
if
we
have
a
good
enough
attraction,
we'll
draw
people
from
the
entire
region.
H
Up
at
the
podium
I
wanted
to
to
address,
I'm
jerry
waxer,
the
mccoy
law
firm.
I
represent
jones
loop
llc,
which
owns
all
this
property
that
you
see
here,
except
for
that
one
in
yellow
which
it
sold
for
the
multi-family
development
in
looking
at
this
there's
a
reason
why
they
left
that
land
along
jones
loop,
road
as
commercial.
H
Originally
the
wilder
corporation,
who
I
also
represented,
envisioned
kind
of
a
regional,
mall
or
or
some
sort
of
a
outlet
mall
on
this
property
way
back
when
that's
not
going
to
happen
malls
are
actively
all
malls
are
actively
looking
to
repurpose
themselves.
Now,
so
that's
unlikely
and
the
amount
of
acres
you
had
was
just
far
in
excess
of
what
would
ever
be
envisioned
in
terms
of
commercial
demand.
We
still
have
left,
as
you
saw
a
significant
amount
of
commercial
property.
There
are
a
couple
of
things
and
couple
reasons
why
that
has
been
left.
H
You've
got
the
burnt
store
corridor
rapidly,
developing
the
burnt
store
plan,
while
it
provides
for
two
commercial
nodes,
it's
looking
to
develop
at
build
out
between
six
and
nine
thousand
homes.
In
addition
to
what
already
exists
on
the
burnt
store
corridor
just
to
the
south,
you
have
the
tucker's
grade
project,
which
is
approved
for
an
additional
selma
1700
homes.
H
The
county
is
undertaking
an
area
planned
study
because
their
urban
service
area
ends
just
a
little
bit
east
of
the
interchange
and
doesn't
take
in
the
whole
loop
and
a
study
is
undergoing
now,
whether
or
not
they
should
extend
that
urban
service
area
boundary
and
allow
for
additional
residential
development
within
the
loop,
because
you've
got
at
some
point.
You
also
have
the
airport
that
will
be
developing
and
creating.
H
I
forget
that
the
number
is
extounding
when
you
look
at
full
development
and
the
number
of
jobs
that
create
those
people
are
all
going
to
need
some
place
to
live.
So
we
think
that
there's
a
need
both
for
the
additional
residential
but
because
of
the
residential
that
is,
is
bound.
That
is
already
underway
in
burnt
store,
that
there
will
be
a
demand
for
some
sort
of
commercial
services
at
this
location
and
which
is
why
they
have
retained
a
significant
area
for
that
for
the
future.
B
Right
then,
they'll
have
to
come
back
with
a
re-plaque
and
a
new
site
plan
for
what
they're
what
they're
proposing.
I
wish
we
had
been
able
to
do
all
of
that
at
one
time,
because
it
would
have
been
a
lot
simpler
and
it
would
have
made
it
a
lot
more
easy
for
all
of
us
to
understand.
I
asked
a
ton
of
questions
the
other
day.
In
my
briefing,
I
hope
you
guys
all
did
too,
but
my
I
think,
mark's
question
earlier
has
not
really
been
answered.
I
H
It
says
that
even
if
you
have,
for
instance,
low
density
residential
land
use
that
allows
up
to
five
units
per
acre,
but
if
your
zoning
is
re1,
as
as
we
find
all
over
charlotte
county,
which
allows
for
one
unit
to
go
from
the
one
unit
of
your
zoning
to
the
five
units
already
allowed
by
the
comp
plan,
you
have
to
transfer
in
that
density.
So
that's
the
scenario
we're
faced
with
here.
There
was
a
certain
amount
of
density
that
was
granted.
That
was
the
base
density.
B
That's
important
because
we
only
have
about
120
in
our
bank
of
tdus
available
at
this
point
in
time,
so
I
would
not
be
willing
to
go
along
with
that.
I
think
I
think
the
real
the
real
key
is,
you
know,
as
I
jerry
and
I
had
a
conversation
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
my
original
thought
was
I
I
really
wanted
to
see
this
entire
parcel
developed
as
commercial,
but
I
know
in
this
climate:
it's
not
the
the
brightest
thing
to
believe
in
because
it's
just
not
going
to
happen.
B
I
also
see
the
tucker's
grade
project
being
built
and
I'm
thinking.
Well,
maybe
we
should
be
looking
at
more
commercial,
but
but
I
also
know
that
you
have
to
have
residential
to
support
commercial
for
it
to
be
successful
and
we,
you
know
the
reason
why
we
don't
have
a
costco
in
charlotte
county
is
because
we
have
less
than
twenty
thousand
people
in
the
city
of
punta
gorda
and
that
parcel
would
be
ideal
for
something
like
that.
Will
it
happen?
B
We
may
get
to
that
point,
but
you
know
we're
just
shy
of
that
right
now
so,
and
I
think
once
the
southern
part
of
the
city
starts
getting
further
developed
and
gets
more
residential
moving
in
here,
which
will
hopefully
be
a
lot
more
families
with
children,
so
that
population
density
will
get
us
to
the
point
where
we
need
to
be
in
order
for
some
of
those
big
box
stores
to
look
at
us
a
little
more
seriously.
So
yeah
mark.
E
B
E
H
B
Personally,
I'm
very
ecstatic
that
bj's
is
coming
to
charlotte
county.
So
that's
a
really
big
bonus.
I
don't
have
to
go
to
cape
coral
anymore.
I
think,
but
but
I
mean
that's
the
kind
of
things
where
we
really
would
like
to
see
there,
because
we
really
need
that
commercial
density
for
it
to
change
the
ratio
from
the
90
to
10
percent
ratio
so
and
david,
I'm
sorry,
I
cut
you
off.
Were
you
gonna?
You
wanted
to
say
something.
M
When
this
discussion
is
completed,
go
ahead
just
just
to
be
legally
correct.
The
two
resolutions
that
are
before
you
this
morning
actually
set
the
stage
for
the
wiping
clean
of
the
pre
previously
recorded
plaques.
There
still
is
a
process,
and
so
it's
not
necessarily
a
foregone
conclusion.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
people
knew
that
it's
going
to
go
before
the
planning
commission,
for
example,
and
then
come
back
before
you
for
final
adoption.
H
A
Just
regarding
the
trends,
I
attended
the
last
market
trends
conference
and
we're
actually
going
to
have
one
finally,
for
the
first
time
in
charlotte
county
this
next
year.
This
is
where
the
largest
residential
commercial,
real
estate
players
all
basically
give
what's
happening.
Our
market
is
a
wing
market,
unlike
the
country,
our
residential
and
commercial
are
going.
B
B
M
Again,
this
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
declaring
its
intent
to
consider
vacating,
53.91,
plus
or
minus
acres,
a
tract
or
parcel
of
land
situated
in
the
state
of
florida,
county
of
charlotte
lying
in
sections,
21
and
28
28,
township,
41,
south
range,
23,
east
being
part
of
the
platte
of
south
highlands.
M
According
to
the
plant
thereof,
as
recorded
in
plaque
2
page
6,
public
records
of
charlotte
county
florida
and
being
further
mounted
and
described
in
exhibit
a
attached
tier
two
and
incorporated
herein
requesting
a
recommendation
from
the
planning
commission
and
fixing
a
date
of
a
public
hearing.
They're
on.
B
M
B
J
J
J
D
B
D
D
D
K
K
O
K
D
Right
and
typically,
I
would
say,
typically,
things
are
not
added
unless
it
is
sort
of
an
emergency,
or
we
realize
there's
a
time
frame
that
has
to
be
met
or
a
council
member
says.
Oh,
you
know
this.
This
needs
to
be
on
the
agenda
or
you
know
a
staff
member
finds
out
that
something
needs
to
be
on
that
agenda
to
meet
a
timeline.
It's
typically
not
constantly
amended
it.
It
shouldn't
be.
B
N
N
I'm
very
uncomfortable
with
adding
things
this
way,
because
if
we're
going
to
do
that,
then
we
need
to
say
on
friday
when
the
agenda
goes
out,
that
this
is
a
draft
and
we
need
to
do
it
on
monday.
When
we
add
something
to
it.
We
need
to
say
that
this
is
a
draft,
because
I
get
more
complaints
from
constituents
that
something
showed
up
on
the
tuesday
wednesday
agenda.
N
D
And
as
the
city
manager
explained,
the
agenda
item
deadline
has
been
moved
up,
so
this
really
should
not
be
happening.
The
amendments
shouldn't
be
happening
unless
it's
an
emergency.
So
if
you
want
to
set
a
timeline
where,
after
this
date,
nothing
will
be
added
to
the
agenda,
I
don't
believe
it
really
affects
this
policy.
That's
more
of
a
a
city
manager
directive
that
you
know,
you
don't
add
anything
to
our
agenda
after
friday.
B
B
I
think
we
can
if
we
have
to
have
a
quorum
plus
one
to
be
able
to
change
anything
or
add
anything
at
the
last
minute
to
the
agenda,
so
that
would
mean
four
of
the
five
of
us
would
have
to
approve
it
to
be
added
on
the
day
of
the
meeting.
If
there
was
something
like
that,
I'm
not
a
fan
of
that
idea,
but
either.
E
Mark
you
have
a
question
kind
of
going
along
with
much
of
what's
been
said.
I
agree,
you
know
that
I'd
like
to
have
some
time
to
look
at
it
and
over
the
weekend
you
know
before
our
briefings,
so
I
mean
the
48
hours
that
you
mentioned.
I
thought
yeah
that's
monday
morning,
so
you
know
if
it's
added,
but
after
that
I
think
you
know
you
pretty
much.
You.
F
E
B
Yeah,
I
would
agree-
and
you
know
since
I
I'm
the
first
one
who
has
a
briefing
which
is
monday
at
10
o'clock
and
sometimes
even
friday,
because
it's
a
holiday
weekend.
Sometimes
we
have
our
briefings
on
friday.
So
I
would
like
to
make
sure
we
have
as
much
as
information
available
as
possible
for
when
we
do
our
briefing,
because
I
do
ask
a
lot
of
questions.
My
meetings,
craig
and
I
go
through
that
agenda,
like
with
a
fine-tooth
comb
when
I
meet
with
him.
B
A
I
think,
as
a
best
practice,
we
should
have
friday,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
change
anything.
I
think
that
we
will
we
lose
our
effectiveness
as
a
board.
If
we
take
away
our
ability
to
respond
to
things
that
come
up,
I
I
think
I
think
we're
just
restricting
ours.
I
think
it's
just
it's
not
a
good
practice.
A
I
think
that
this
I
think
that
we,
if
need
be,
we
can
just
stay
up
at
night
and
research
and
make
sure
it
happens,
but
I
I
think
in
general
we
shoot
best
practice
wise
for
fridays,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
make
any
policy
change,
because
I
think
that
we're
just
harming
our
residents.
By
doing
so,
I
think
there's
no
reason
to
take
away
our
ability
to
address
things
to
have
to
make
them
wait
two
weeks
to
address
something
that
should
be.
Maybe
addressed
at
that
wednesday
meeting.
K
I'd
see,
I
kind
of
feel
the
opposite.
I
feel
like
it
would
be
a
disservice
if
we
do
add
things
up
to
last
minute,
because
it
doesn't
give
some
residents
time
to
go
ahead
and
effectively
be
able
to
weigh
in
on
things.
So
I
I'm
I'm
a.
I
would
agree
with
the
whole
by
monday
deadline.
You
know,
friday
comes
out.
K
B
Think,
as
a
general
rule
of
thumb,
I
agree
with
monday,
because
that
still
gives
everybody
time,
especially
with
our
cabinet
groups
when
we
all
meet
with
our
cabinet
groups.
I
think
that
gives
everybody
time
to
review
what's
in
the
package,
and
it
does
change,
I
mean,
and
things
are
always
added
even
to
an
existing
agenda
item,
there's
always
additional
backup
materials
that
get
added
at
the
last
minute
so
mark.
E
Just
a
nitpick,
if
you
wanted
to
because
we
do
have
those
situations
where
our
briefings
are
on
friday,
you
could
say
one
hour
before
the
first
briefing,
which
would
be
yours.
That
means
it
would
have
to
be
by
nine
o'clock
on
friday
if
your
briefing
is
on
friday
or
by
nine
o'clock
on
monday.
If
your
briefing
is
on
monday.
B
And
I
think
we
can
say
that
as
a
policy
internal
policy
that
we
want
to
use
those
numbers,
those
those
time
frames,
I
I
think
for
sake
of
this
policy
for
this
resolution.
I
think
we
should
just
leave
it
the
way
it
is
but
use
as
a
general
internal
rule
of
thumb
policy
that,
if
that
exactly
what
you
just
said,
is
everybody.
K
N
Put
this
in
historical
perspective,
it
was
because
something
came
up
during
commissioner
comments
that
required
a
vote
and
we
voted
on
it,
and
the
outcry
from
the
public
was
so
substantial
that
we
ended
up
having
a
meeting
on
christmas,
eve,
yeah,
and
so
this
policy
was
put
into
place
so
that
that
didn't
happen
again.
Just
took
it
just.
K
B
Yeah
and
I
mean
even
on
my
briefing
monday-
we
I
had
joan
in
there
and
she
was
bringing
in
documents
for
us
to
look
at
while
we
were
doing
the
meeting
and
then
I
asked
her
to
supply
that
backup
material
for
those
first,
two
resolutions
we
just
approved,
so
things
do
change
at
the
last
minute,
but
but
for
a
general
rule
of
thumb.
I
think,
let's,
let's
plan
on
you
know
by
no
later
than
the
time
that
our
briefing
starts,
which
I
think
should.
J
Be
in
general,
the
reason
I
bring
it
up
for
discussion.
Of
course,
it's
a
good
point
to
the
definition
of
the
published
agenda
was
simply
that
over
the
weekend
many
times
we
do
get
calls
and
ask
for
something
that
someone
feels
was
missed
and
cannot
go
on
the
agenda
and
we
always
try
to
do
that
prior
to
briefings.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
once
there's
briefings-
and
you
put
it
out
there
to
the
public
for
your
various
cabinet
groups,
et
cetera,
that
the
agenda's
pretty
much
fixed.
B
B
J
B
Okay,
and
once
again,
this
was
something
that
was
put-
it's
been
in
place
for
a
few
years,
but
a
lot
of
years.
Actually,
but
in
2019
we
did
the
reaffirmation
and
it's
the
poster,
that's
mounted
on
the
wall
right
behind
you
guys
over
there,
and
it's
just
to
make
sure
that
that
is
posted
information
for
both
anyone
who's
in
the
council
chamber.
That
wishes
to
address
counsel,
but
also
between
council
members.
When
we
have
comments,
any
questions
concerns
okay,.
E
B
B
M
B
Okay
and
once
again
do
our
city
charter
requires.
We
have
22
council
meetings
per
year,
so
we
always
try
to
move
up
our
second
july
meeting
to
the
second
wednesday
in
july
and
then
give
us
a
six-week
break,
which
we
desperately
need
at
that
point,
and
only
have
one
meeting
in
august,
which
will
be
august
24th,
and
then
we
only
have
one
meeting
in
december,
which
will
be
the
seventh
for
next
year:
everybody,
okay,
with
those
dates
and
we'll
have
to
have
kylie
readjust
all
of
our
council
and
briefing
time
frames
on
your
calendars.
B
If
it's
approved
okay,
so
we
need
a
motion
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
agenda
item
4f
any
further
discussion.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Okay,
anyone
have
anything
on
the
consent
agenda.
They
would
like
to
pull.
B
G
G
G
G
Our
engineer
or
our
architect
that
we
hired
parker
budget
smith
was
tasked
first
to
complete
a
comprehensive
building
evaluation
report
which
included
hazardous
material
testing
and
recommendations
of
the
major
building
systems.
So
that
is
what
we
have
complete
completed
to
date.
So
those
are
what
we're
going
to
review
with
you.
So
that
way
you
can
make
some
decisions
on
how
we're
going
to
proceed
with
the
actual
architectural
design
and
move
forward
with
the
rehabilitation
in
the
construction
documents.
G
So
again,
mitchell
is
going
to
present
and
go
over
that
comprehensive
building
report
in
the
major
systems.
As
a
little
bit
more
of
background
information,
the
project
came
about
because
there
it
suffered
multiple
system
failures.
There
was
a
water
heater
that
ruptured.
There
was
some
plumbing
that
ruptured.
There
was
a
roof
leak
in
the
hba
system
had
a
leak
in
it.
So,
instead
of
repairing
minor
things,
we
knew
the
building
needed
to
have
a
more
comprehensive
overview,
so
that
should
have
been
included.
G
I
For
the
record
mitchell
austin
urban
design,
so
the
the
comprehensive
belt
building
report,
as
as
julie
stated,
does
include,
did
include
hazardous
material
testing.
Fortunately,
there
were
no
major
issues
uncovered
in
that.
As
with
any
historic
building
rehabilitation,
there
may
be
additional
items
found
as
work
were
to
proceed,
but
on
the
surface
level,
there's
nothing
major
there,
which
is
good
a
good
start.
I
The
recommendations
in
the
report
talk
about
the
major
building
systems
and
these
recommendations
are
based
on
rehabilitation
of
the
building
to
accommodate
the
following
uses
so
office
space.
On
the
second
floor,
a
house
museum
on
the
first
floor,
a
conference,
room
and
small
event,
space
encompassing
the
first
floor
and
the
deck
those
uses
are
based
on
the
historic
uses
of
the
building.
I
I
All
of
those
things
need
to
be
replaced
in
terms
of
complete
replacement
of
the
of
the
roofing
systems,
major
repairs
to
the
components
of
the
front
porch,
which
is
the
principal
architectural
feature
of
the
building
and
then
repair
of
any
damage
found
to
materials
that
have
been
damaged
by
water
or
wood,
destroying
organisms
for
all
of
those
recommended
actions.
There
are
really
no
alternatives.
I
I
I
B
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
the
big
picture
and
we
can.
We
can
pick
this
apart
as
much
as
we
want,
but
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
the
big
picture
and
where
the
money's
going
to
come
from
before
we
start
picking
apart
what
we
can
and
cannot
do,
okay
individually
by
item,
I
think,
that's
my
opinion.
I
agree.
I
E
I
Yes,
sir,
so
the
when
the
home
was
relocated,
they
had
it
listed
on
the
national
register.
This
was
around
the
time
of
the
centennial
of
the
city
1987,
and
at
that
time
there
was
lots
of
work
going
on
to
get
to
establish
individual
buildings
on
the
national
register,
as
well
as
to
establish
the
national
registered
historic
district.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
and
consideration
being
done
so
that
occurred
in
the
80s
when
the
building
was
relocated.
I
Once
you
remove
a
structure
from
its
location
where
the
national
register
listing
is
done,
it
loses
that
designation
when
it
was
reestablished
in
its
current
location,
the
city
could
have
pursued
relisting.
The
structure,
which
is
one
of
the
intents
of
this
project,
is
to
get
the
structure
relisted
on
the
national
register,
because
it
is
historically
significant
to
our
community
hasn't
lost
that
just
because
it's
relocated
from
one
spot
to
another.
J
I
The
existing
systems
have
some
areas
where
they
don't
meet
current
code
from
the
the
building
panel,
all
the
way
to
the
existing
use
points,
they
do
recommend
a
complete
replacement
and
redesign
from
the
panel
all
the
way
to
those
use
points
adding
use
points
to,
depending
on
how
the
building
is
to
be
used
in
terms
of
office.
Space
on
particularly
on
the
second
floor,
interior
and
exterior
lighting
is
quite
limited
and
they
definitely
recommend
rehabilitating
the
existing
period,
correct
fixtures
and
supplementing
with
additional
lighting
for
both
building
security
and
occupant
safety.
I
I
I
In
terms
of
accessibility
based
on
the
proposed
building
uses,
there
is
no
ada
compliant
restroom
facility
on
this
site,
so
the
recommendation
is
to
design
and
construct
an
ada
compliant
restroom
pavilion
off
of
the
rear
deck.
This
would
permit
the
entire
ground
floor
of
the
building
to
have
an
accessible
restroom
facility
and
the
the
second
floor.
I
Restroom
could
be
just
you
know,
for
the
the
second
floor
office
uses
courtesy
restroom
as
it
were,
the
alternative
action
would
be
to
take
the
the
kitchen
which
is
semi-detached
this
structure
here
and
convert
that
into
an
ada
compliant
restroom,
the
potential
loss
there
is
if
there
is
small
vent
event
use
of
this
ground
floor.
That
makes
a
great
place
to
have
a
warming
kitchen
catering,
kitchen,
catering
services.
I
The
other
thing
is
that
that
structure
is
historic
to
the
building.
It
was
a
kitchen,
it
does
have
wind
a
door
on
one
side
windows
on
two
other
sides,
so
converting
it
into
a
restroom.
You
may
lose
the
historic
significance
of
that
portion
of
the
structure.
So
that's
why
a
new
pavilion
is
recommended.
G
It
was
approved
for
the
one
ta
one
percent
sales
tax
funding
in
2021.
There
was
a
little
bit
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
was
allocated
to
this
project.
The
expenditure
that
you
see
is
currently
for
the
architectural
and
design,
which
leads
a
remainder
funded
balance
of
this
project
of
about
a
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars.
G
A
couple
city
council
meetings
ago.
We
did
sign
a
resolution
for
us
to
apply
for
a
historic
preservation
grant,
which
was
a
50-50
matching
grant
that
if
the
city
was
to
get
funds
that
the
city
would
match
those
and
it
could
be
a
combination
of
funds
plus
and
kind
services,
so
that
historical
grant
was
just
about
under
a
million
dollars.
We
are
still
on
the
list.
G
We
will
not
know
whether
or
not
the
city
has
been
issued
that
grant
until
probably
sometime
in
july,
this
particular
grant
there's
not
necessarily
like
you
know
the
there's,
a
10
million
dollar
grant
and
when
the
money
is
gone,
the
money's
gone.
This
is
basically
what
projects
do
they
deem
they
want
to
fit.
What
is
the
dollar
amount
and
that's
what
they
seek
for
funding?
G
So
we
have
no
idea
whether
or
not
the
city
will
or
will
not
receive
this
funding
again.
That
1.1
million
dollar
estimate
is
just
an
estimate
from
2021
as
part
of
this
project,
the
60
design
plans,
which
would
be
coming
up
next,
based
upon
some
of
the
decisions
that
are
made
of
which
direction
we
want
to
go
towards.
We
would
get
a
initial
construction
cost
estimate
to
see
whether
or
not
that
1.1
that
we
anticipate
is
accurate
or
not
accurate,
and
then
we
would
move
towards
the
100
percent
plans.
G
G
N
Why
now
is
there
this
big
push
to
do
this,
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
not
expressing
my
opinions,
although
I
could
be
persuaded
to
feel
this
way
really
easily,
but
my
entire
team
was
so
appalled
at
the
condition
of
this
house
that
nothing
I
mean
you
could
have
fixed
the
roof.
You
know
I
mean
there
are
things
that
could
have
been
done
all
along
and
I'd
like
to
know
how
it
got
an
occupancy
permit
without
any
kind
of
smoke,
detector
or
safety
device.
N
You
couldn't
you
couldn't
get
a
building
passed
for
occupancy
any
place
else
in
the
city
like
that.
Why
was
this
one,
our
liability,
if
the
chamber
folks
would
have
been
injured
and
a
fire
would
have
been
astronomical
because
we
didn't
have
proper
stuff?
I'm
I'm
so
appalled
by
this
whole
thing
that
I
don't
even
know
where
to
start
with
how
appalled
I
am.
I
I
To
put
the
building
back
into
use
because
it
is
a
historic
structure,
there
were
certain
provisions
of
the
florida
building
code
which
are
exemptable
at
the
discretion
of
the
building
official.
So
with
any
historic
structure
there,
there
are
certain
things
that
can
be
done
or
not
done,
based
upon
the
fact
that
it
is
a
historic
structure,
because
the
goal,
the
the
two-sided
goal
in
in
the
building
code
is
to
make
sure
that
buildings
are
safe
and
to
make
sure
that
that
historic
buildings
can
be
preserved
in
their
historic
integrity
maintained.
I
As
far
as
the
the
fire
safety
systems,
there
are
smoke
detectors
in
the
structure,
but,
unlike
a
commercial
building,
there
aren't
the
the
fire
detection
systems
that
that
you
would
see
in
a
commercial
structure.
So
it's
more
of
a
residential
configuration
than
a
commercial
configuration
so
that
that's
why
the
recommendations
are
as
they
are
in
terms
of.
Why
is
the
building
not
been?
How
has
the
building
gotten
to
this
point
and
really
that's
a
product
of
the
city's
budget?
I
Obviously,
with
the
great
recession
and
the
decline
in
tax
revenues
that
the
city
experienced,
there
was
a
significant
pullback,
both
in
terms
of
personnel,
so
we
simply
don't
have
the
staff
in
facilities
to
maintain
all
the
facilities
that
we
have
and
also
a
reduction
in
the
budget
that
they
were
allocated
for
actually
doing.
Work
was
slashed
in
that
2010
to
very
recently
time
frame.
Those
budgets
are
are
still
below
what
they
were
in
the
mid
2000s.
N
B
K
So-
and
I
agree
looking
at
this-
I
always
look
to
the
future
and
if
it's
something
that's
going
to
be
rehabbed,
I
think
that
we
as
a
council
need
to
try
to
make
a
difference
where
we're
not
going
to.
Let
this
happen
again
this
it
just
can't.
We
can't
go
through
this
again.
So
I
know
you
had
said
it's
under
public
works,
as
far
as
you
know,
has
a
city
ever
done
something
where
they
have
own
their
own
special
fund.
K
They
have
their
own
entity
that
is
going
to
be
specifically
for
rehabbing
historical
buildings
where
it's
under
a
different
itemized
line
for
budget.
You
know,
and
if
that,
if
that
isn't
the
case,
maybe
that's
something
we
look
to
the
future.
So
things
like
this
don't
go
amiss
so
we're
not.
You
know
just
looking
at
overall
picture
and
not
specifically
because
obviously
historical
buildings
have
to
stay
maintained
or
they
they
they
ruin
quicker
than
you
know,
newer
buildings,
so
yeah
yeah.
B
Well,
did
you
all
get
to
go
through
the
building
this
week?
I've
been
through
it
before
yeah,
okay,
because
I
asked
for
for
all
the
council
members
to
be
able
to
get
a
tour
through
there,
because
I
I
pleasured
25
years
I'd
never
been
in
the
building
before
so.
I
thought
it
was
important
to
see
it
mark.
E
I
think
it's
probably
not
unusual
for
historic
buildings
to
not
get
the
care
that
they
need
and
eventually
to
slowly
deteriorate,
to
the
point
where
somebody
says:
oh,
my
god,
we
either
got
to
bulldoze
it
or
we've
got
to
save
it,
and
I
tend
to
agree
with
what
mr
murtha
said
in
his
earlier
comments.
I
think
that
we,
this
is
worth
saving
it
may
not
have.
E
E
C
E
I
think
it
would
be
hooves,
then,
to
re
rehabilitate
this
in
such
a
way
that
it
does
preserve
the
historic
nature
of
the
building
and
it
could
be
added
back.
But
as
far
as
some
of
these
individual
items,
I
think
it
would
not
be
a
good
decision
to
rehabilitate
in
such
a
way
that
you
couldn't
use
part
of
the
building.
E
I
Certainly,
we
could
explore
selling
of
the
property,
so
the
there's
multiple
ways
that
you
could
do
that
in
terms
of
the
actual
building
itself.
You
couldn't
sell
the
building
and
have
it
relocated
somewhere
else,
because
the
building
absent
the
land
has
essentially
no
value,
because
you
don't
have
a
way
to
move
it.
You
have
to
have
cash
up
front
to
move
it.
I
B
K
I
I
That
is
definitely
something
that
we
would
look
to
do
in
this
process.
Another
piece
of
the
puzzle
on
the
flip
side
is
if
this
building
is
completely
restored
and
rehabilitated
the
business
plan
for
generating
revenue
from
it,
you
know,
what's
it
worth
in
lease,
do
we
retain
even
with
a
lease
to
an
entity
as
office
space?
Do
we
retain
the
right
to
use
the
facility
periodically
for
events,
so
we
can
release
it
for
four
events.
I
J
There's
two
things
there
that
that
also
addresses
that
one
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
the
acceptance
criteria
that
the
city
agreed
to
when
we
took
the
building.
I
don't
know
if
we
agreed
to
it
in
perpetuity
if
there
was
any
restrictions
on
sale
or
transfer
of
the
building,
we'll
look
at
all
these
things.
But
the
other
thing
is
that
during
the
budget
process,
one
of
the
things
that
I
discussed
frequently
was
the
operating
impact
of
capital
projects,
and
that
goes
to
exactly
what
you're
saying.
J
If
you
restore
a
building
like
this
and
depending
on
what
direction
staff
is
given.
If
everything's
not
replaced
and
there's
still
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
maintained
at
a
higher
level,
it's
going
to
cost
a
lot
more
annually
than
if
it's
a
brand
new
building,
for
example,
so
that
operating
impact
and
how
that
impacts.
Our
operating
budget
is
something
that
we're
looking
at
for
each
capital
project.
Now,
whether
it
be
city
hall
or
you
know,
herrell
court
center
or
this
building
to
make
sure
that
we
have
those
funds
available
and
not
just
funds.
A
I
actually
met
with
the
division
of
historical
resources
about
two
weeks
ago
to
discuss
support
for
the
historic
district,
and
it
was
made
clear
that
it
it
can't
be
owned
by
private
people.
It
has
to
be
like
an
entity
like
our
municipality
or
an
organization
like
that.
So
so,
in
terms
of
funding,
the
state
can
only
support
like
this
type
of
situation.
A
N
Well,
I
would
like
to
say
that
in
doing
my
research
on
this,
I
did
check
out
with
some
organizations
about
fundraising
and
I
was
reminded
that
when
the
county
courthouse
had
been
destroyed
after
charlie,
they
did
a
county-wide
fundraiser
and
raised
230
thousand
dollars.
That
was
county-wide,
and
that
was
for
our
beloved
courthouse.
N
We
have
the
women's
club
that
needs
desperate
help.
We
have
the
train
depot,
which
jah
got
some
a
grant
for
which
is
getting
fixed
up,
but
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
buildings
that
need
loving
attention,
and
I
just
don't
know
where
we're
going
to
get
the
money.
I
don't.
I
would
hate
to
see
this
building
go.
N
I
was
even
talking
to
someone
who
had
talked
with
the
gentleman
that
carved
the
indian
and
he's
he
was
appalled
that
he
hadn't
been
asked
to
come
back
to
fix
the
indian
because
he
goes
around
to
all
of
his
other
sculptures
and
every
five
years
he
gets
in
touch
with
one
of
them
and
fixes
them
up,
and
he's
really
concerned
that
our
indian
may
be
in
jeopardy.
Now,
okay,
we're
gonna
get
the
money.
N
I
B
I
think
the
big
the
big
picture
is
what
we
really
need
to
be
talking
about
here,
though,
because
if
that
grant
is
not
approved,
then
what
we
can't
keep
leaving
this
building
sitting
there
without
somebody
working
on
it
to
get
things
back
to
some
good
standard
so
that
it's
habitable
again
I
mean
and
the
matching
funds,
if
we
can't
find
a
grant
for
that,
what's
what
pot
of
money's
going
to
pay?
For
that?
That's
that's
the
big
issue
for
me.
B
I.
I
absolutely
think
this
is
a
magnificent
structure.
I
would
hate
to
see
it
go
away
and
I
would
hate
for
the
city
to
have
to
relinquish
it
to
anybody.
But
but
I've
got
to
say
you
know
we're
spending
a
million
one,
there's
a
lot
of
projects
in
the
city
that
could
use
a
million
one,
but
at
the
same
time
I
think
this
is
really
important
to
the
history
of
the
city,
and
you
know
this.
B
B
If
we
get
the
grant
what
what
pot
of
money
is
going
to
pay
the
additional
funds,
if
we
don't
get
the
grant
option
number
two,
then
what
I
mean
I
know
we
have
some
surplus
funds
in
the
one
percent
sales
tax
account,
but
is
that
going
to
be
enough
to
to
fund
the
800
thousand
dollars
that
we're
lacking?
If
the
grant
doesn't
go
through
and
we're
not
going
to
know
about
the
grant
until
july.
K
K
J
First
of
all,
a
million
one-
I
don't
believe
is
going
to
touch
it.
I
think
we're
going
to
be
north
of
that
somewhere
with
the
building
costs.
Currently
right
now
in
our
one
percent
sales
tax,
the
excess
amounts
are
somewhere
over
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
even
if
we
got
the
grant,
it
would
take
almost
all
of
it
net
of
any
additional
grants
or
fundraising
efforts
to
make
up
the
difference
that
we
need,
even
if
it
were
only
a
million
one.
So
really,
unless
we
intend
the
one
dedicating
all
our
excess
of
the
one
percent.
J
Of
course,
when
you
talk
about
the
women's
club
or
the
structures
at
history
park
or
all
those
different
things,
if
agencies
that
are
responsible
for
that
are
impacted
by
things
like
kovid
or
shortfalls
in
funding,
typically,
the
only
recourse
they
have
is
to
come
back
to
the
city
and
many
times.
That's
after
things
are
in
a
state
of
repair
that
costs
substantially
more,
even
like
we're
we're
seeing
here.
So
you
know,
ultimately,
in
many
cases
the
city
ends
up
with
the
responsibility
anyway.
So
that's
also
always
a
concern,
as
you
well
know.
J
So
as
far
as
funding
goes,
we're
still
looking
at,
hopefully
the
grant
that
will
come
in
at
497
additional
grants
that
may
become
available.
We
have
to
pursue,
and
if
there
are
any
fundraising
efforts,
certainly
we're
more
than
happy
to
work
with
anyone.
We
can
to
bring
that
money
up,
but
the
council
would
have
to
make
a
decision
specifically
if
you're
looking
at
funding
it
currently
or
in
the
near
future,
to
use
other
available
funds
from
the
city,
reserves
or
city
accounts
to
to
fund
this.
If
you
want
to
specifically
move
forward.
K
My
personal
opinion
is,
however,
we
decide
to
move
forward.
I
think
we
need
to
move
forward
with
keeping
in
mind
that
there
needs
to
be
a
revenue
stream
out
of
that
building.
So
if
it's
putting
fire
sprinklers
in
because
that's
what's
going
to
be
needed
for
that
revenue
stream,
we
need
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
that's
in
there,
because
I
do
think
it.
I
think
that
it
there
could
be
a
really
good
revenue
strain
that
could
come
out.
K
B
D
B
But
I
you
know,
I
think
I
think
you
know
I
know
back
when
terry
ashley
was
the
executive
director
of
the
chamber
and
they
had
their
office
there.
I
had
a
long
conversation
with
her
yesterday
about
this.
They
were
starting
to
use
it
as
a
venue
for
events,
and
there
were
a
lot
of
things
that
were
actually
booked
there
that
had
to
be
canceled
because
the
building
kind
of
fell
apart.
B
Excuse
me,
so
I
think
I
think,
having
a
plan
in
place
like
that,
whether
we
rent
it
out
as
office
space
to
an
organization
locally
or
we
use
it
as
a
venue
that
can
generate
income.
Those
are
all
things
that
we
need
to
be
talking
about
in
the
in
the
whole
big
picture
of
this
project,
but
but
in
the
meantime,
I
think
we
have
to
decide
how
we're
going
to
move
forward.
I
don't
think
we
can
wait
till
july
to
find
out
if
this
grant's
going
to
be
approved.
B
J
For
example,
if
you
look
at
the
special
use
fund,
part
of
the
balance
of
that
special
use
fund
is
a
reserve
amount
until
the
audit
from
some
of
the
monies
we
got
for
the
damage
it
was
paid
for
on
sea
walls.
Well,
that
reserve
amount
hopefully
we'll
never
use.
You
know.
The
audit
period
is
a
five
year
period
after
completion
after
it's
closed
out
and
we
reserve
it
on
the
off
chance
we
get
audited
and
they
say
that
certain
expenses
weren't
valid.
J
So
we
have
that
amount
of
money
sitting
there,
which
a
few
hundred
thousand
that
you
know
possibly
could
be
used
towards
this
also
so
that
may
help
offset
the
amount
that's
needed
for
our
match,
based
on
a
1.1
construction
estimate
or
1.1
estimate
for
the
project.
So
when
it
exceeds
that,
then
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
additional
funds.
That'll
help
make
up
the
difference
between
1.1
and
whatever
the
new
construction
estimate
comes
in
when
we
go
to
60
and
100
plans.
C
E
I
mean
there's,
obviously
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions,
things
that
have
to
get
figured
out,
there's
plans
that
have
to
be
that
all
of
that
is
going
to
take
time
and-
and
we
know
that
you
know
it's
july-
maybe
later
than
that-
for
this
is
so
it's
a
lot
of
things
that
have
to
get
going
a
lot
of
moving
pieces,
but
is
there
some
immediate
something
that
you
need
immediately
to
keep
this
moving
forward?
While
we
sort
some
of
the
rest
of
this
out?
Is
it
is
it
funding?
Is
it
a
authorization.
J
Approval,
what
do
you
need
now
and
let
me
let
me
address
something
in
that
vein
before
you
go
forward
when
we
look
at
the
things
that
are
recommendations
here,
that
have
other
options
that
are
lesser
options
that
can
be
used.
If
you
want
to
save
money,
I'll
just
use
fixtures,
for
example,
you
want
to
maintain
an
old
fixture,
that's
great
until
we
have
a
new
building
and
the
fixture
breaks
and
leaks,
and
now
we
have,
you
know
substantial
damage
on
a
brand
new
building
electrical.
J
Could
you
replace
some
of
what's
there
yep
until
you
have
one
room
you
want
to
use
for
an
office
that
has
one
outlet
and
you
have
14
extension
cords
plugged
in
hopefully
the
fire
systems
work
by
that
point.
So
you
know
those
are
the
type
things
that
if
we
have
direction
to
move
forward,
when
we
get
then
give
the
engineer
slash
architect
that
direction,
then
we
can
come
up
with
the
estimated
final
cost
and
then
we
can
talk
about
the
funding
scenarios.
We
do
know
that
you
know.
J
C
J
Likely
allow
us,
when
we
get
through
construction
design,
and
then
we
get
through
the
reviews
from
the
state
level,
we'll
probably
be
at
the
grant
period.
Well,
we
know
if
we
get
that
grant
and
we'll
actually
know
if
we
need
to
come
up
with
additional
funds,
so
the
timeline
of
the
process
and
then,
of
course,
the
state
historical
review
and
what
that
does
to.
It
would
be
two
things
right
now.
J
J
E
The
other
thing
in
general
I'll
restate
what
I
said
before
is
that
I
would
come
down
on
every
one
of
those
on
the
side
of
we've
got
to
do
what's
right
to
preserve
the
historic
nature
of
the
building,
we're
going
to
make
sure
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
that
it
can
get
back
on
the
register
number
one
and
number
two
that
we
could
use
the
building.
So
if
there's
a
question
about
okay,
we
can
go
cheaper,
but
we
can't
use
the
second
floor.
E
E
Could
yes,
we
could
always
go
back
later
after
you
get
the
actual
cost
and
say
okay.
If
this
this
is
really
too
much
and
we
didn't
get
the
grant
or
we
couldn't
fight.
But
and
then
you
gotta,
you
gotta
value,
engineer
a
little
bit.
You
could
do
that
later.
You
don't
necessarily
have
to
value
engineer
it
up
front.
I
mean
look,
do
it
right
if
you
can
and
if
you
can't
then
within
reason
within.
B
E
B
N
And
I
would
really
like
to
see
some
kind
of
indication
that
this
will
not
happen
again,
that
there's
a
problem
that
there's
a
procedure
and
a
policy
in
place.
You
know
if
there's
any
caveat
that
we
can
put
on
giving
you
the
finding
the
money
for
this.
It's
got
to
be
that
there's
a
plan
going
forward
to
take
care
of
this
building.
I
I
Yes,
it
would
make
those
grant
applications
look
better.
As
far
as
the
the
current
grant
application,
that
is,
with
the
state
that
state
funds,
there
really
aren't
any
federal
funds
of
available
available
for
historic
resources.
So
really
it's
for
this
type
of
historic
resources.
There
are
but
not
specific
to
this
type
of
structure,
and
then
so
most
of
what
we
would
be
looking
at
would
be
non-profit
foundations
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
we've
got
to
do
our
homework.
I
One
potential
model
is
down
in
fort
myers.
They
recently
redid
the
old
train
depot.
It's
now
called
the
collaboratorium,
so
that
was
a
public-private
partnership.
There
was
the
city
of
fort
myers
was
leading
the
charge
because
it's
their
building,
but
it
was
the
the
community
foundation
down
there
and
several
other
groups
and
entities
and
and
that's
what
sort
of
put
that
building
back
together,
it's
a
much
larger
building,
though
so
they
had
a
lot
more
opportunity
to
make
to
make
something
that
could
generate
revenue
in
the
long
term.
I
However,
we
can
definitely
explore
that
and
figure
out
how
they
may
have
cobbled
it
together
and
look
at
other
best
practices
to
develop
a
logical
building
business
plan
for
this
building,
and
I
think
that's
a
great
point
because
we
don't
want
to
be.
I
don't
want
to
be
back
here
in
15
years
in
front
of
another
city
council
asking
them
for
another,
two
million
dollars
to
fix
this
building.
That's
not
michael
all,.
I
G
B
I
mean,
I
think
I
think,
that's
a
good
way
to
start
and
keep
to
keep
the
ball
rolling
a
little
bit,
even
though
it
may
be
rolling
a
little
slower
and
then
just
keep
looking
for
other
opportunities
and
if
we
need
to
maybe
we
can
use
some
of
those
sales
tax
surplus
funds
to
get
to
keep
things
going
until
we
find
out
about
the
grant.
I
mean
those
are
all
little
things.
B
I
think
that
we
can
do
just
to
make
sure
that
the
process
doesn't
fall
in
the
cracks
anymore,
but
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
have
a
firm
policy
like
I
agree
with
all
of
you
guys.
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
firm
policy
in
place
for
all
of
our
historic
buildings
going
forward
that
we
will
never
let
this
happen
again.
I
mean
you
know
the
unintended
consequences
of
keeping
the
millage
rate
the
same
for
five
years
is
what
caused
some
of
this,
because
we
didn't.
J
I
Yes,
so
the
if
we
were
to
receive
the
grant
funds,
then
shippo
the
state
historic
preservation
office
they
as
part
of
the
grant
funding
process.
They
have
review
authority
over
our
plans,
so
they
get
to
review
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
making
any
changes
that
adversely
impact
the
historic
or
architectural
integrity
of
the
structure.
I
J
But
that's
part
of
what
extends
the
time
frame
which
may
which
will
get
us
to
at
least
july
when
we
know
about
the
other
funds,
and
once
we
know,
if
we're
now
having
direction
to
move
forward,
that'll
give
the
architect
the
opportunity
to
come
up
with
current
construction
dollars.
Then
we
can
come
back
with
the
whole
financial
plan
to
fund
the
project.
J
B
A
D
F
All
right,
good
morning,
my
name
is
jeff
payne.
I'm
hr
manager
we're
here
to
talk
about
a
sick
leave
cash
out
new
benefit
for
city
employees.
Right
currently,
if
a
city
employee
leaves
employment
with
the
city,
they
get
no
benefit
from
any
accrued
sick
leave
that
they
have.
So
this
new
policy
would
allow
them
to
get
some
benefit
out
of
unused
sick
time
that
they
have
when
they
leave
the
city
right.
F
So
they
have
to
have
been
here
for
10
years
of
service,
at
least
250
hours
of
accrued
and
unused
sick
leave,
and
then
their
separation
would
have
to
be
voluntary,
not
the
result
of
any
disciplinary
actions,
and
they
could
cash
in
50
percent
of
that
unused
sick
time
up
to
a
maximum
of
two
thousand
dollars
right.
So
as
we
look
through
the
the
history
on
this,
we
did
a
five
year.
Look
back.
J
J
F
E
I
mean
we're
trying
to
give
him
the
carrot
instead
of
the
stick
and
I'm
all
in
favor
of
that,
generally,
the
only
what
came
up
in
my
group
was.
Are
we
confident
that
we're
not
over
incending
people?
In
other
words,
you'd,
have
people
that
really
should
stay
home
and
don't
because
they
want
to
accrue
and
do
this?
So
how
confident
are
we
that
that
that
won't
be
the
case.
F
J
When
you
look
at
10
years
and
250
hours,
that
means
they
have
to
save
25
hours
a
year.
They
get
96.,
so
we're
not
saying
stay
home
or
come
to
work.
If
you're
sick,
we're
saying
over
10
years
build
up
250
hours.
That's
not
that
difficult
to
do
so.
You're,
saying
out
of
12
days
a
year
that
you
get
three
of
them
have
to
be
saved
towards
this
over
a
10-year
period
and
then
at
the
end
of
that
10-year
period.
If
you
have
those
250
hours,
you
can
use
this.
J
If
you
have
voluntary
separation
from
employment
right
now,
there's
over
80
people
that
have
been
here
over
10
years
that
have
250
hours
that
would
qualify,
but
that
2
000
isn't
going
to
make
them
decide
to
resign
or
it
isn't
going
to
drive
their
retirement
initiatives
to
say
I
have
2
000
extra
dollars
now
my
financial
plan
is
complete.
What
it
does
do
is
basically
incentivize
them
on
an
annual
basis
to
say
you
know
if
well
number
one
and
I'll
be
very
general
about
this
sick
time
isn't
a
vacation
day.
J
So
you
know
when
you
think
about
you
know.
Do
I
feel
like
calling
in
sick
on
friday?
You
know
you
might
think.
Well,
you
know
what
down
the
road.
If
I
can
save
some
of
these,
I
might
get
two
grand
out
of
it.
That's
the
goal
to
incentivize
people
to
save
sick
time.
You
know,
if
you
wake
up
with
a
little
bit
of
a
headache
and
think
well,
you
know
I
could
call
in
sec.
J
Maybe
you
won't
because
in
some
cases
that
causes
us
to
then
call
someone
else
in
or
pay
overtime
for
someone
to
replace
the
person
that
called
in
sec
because
sick
time
you
can
call
in
because
you're
sick
vacation
time,
for
example,
typically
needs
to
be
scheduled.
So
you
can
plan
things
around
it,
but
sick
time
is
where
it
puts
us
in
a
bind
when
people
are
calling
insect
using
all
their
sick
time
over
a
period
of
time
with
no
major
illnesses.
J
Where
it
looks
like
you
know,
can
we
do
something
to
limit
the
amount
of
sick
time,
that's
being
used?
That
really
doesn't
have
to
be
and
again
we're
not
saying
over
a
10-year
period,
save
all
96
hours
a
year.
We're
saying
if
you
can
save
three
of
those
12
days,
which
in
many
cases,
people
do
anyway
because
of
the
cruise
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
programs
that
you
know
to
cruise
till
you
retire
and
there's
some
benefit
at
the
end
of
your
retirement
period.
J
If
you've
saved
up
as
much
sick
time
as
you
can
and
people
come
out
of
that
with
a
lot
of
sick
hours,
but
you're
right
we're
not
asking
people
if
you're
sick,
you
know
come
to
work,
we're
basically
saying
if
over
a
ten
year
period
or
more,
you
can
save
up
a
little
bit
of
time,
because
when
you
look
at
the
hours
two
thousand
dollars
you
know
at
you
can
use
half
of
your
250
hours.
So
that's
125.!
J
J
B
The
way
this
is
worded
is
a
little
confusing
to
me.
It
says
up
to
a
maximum
of
200
hours
or
2000
maximum.
Normally,
when
that
you
have
something
either
or
it's
a
it
would
state
whichever
is
greater
or
whichever
is
lesser
and
and
that
may
need
to
be
added
to
this
phrase,
are
people
going
to
be
grandfathered
in
this?
B
N
K
F
J
F
B
J
J
Programs,
everything
from
incentives
like
this
to
for
pension
plans,
reduction
in
actuarial
liability
at
the
end
of
your
pension
period,
where,
if
you
have
30
years
until
you
can
retire,
which
some
of
the
older
employees
are
still
in
pension
plans
or
fire
and
police
or
infection
plans,
you
could
retire.
If
you
had
2
000
hours,
you
could
use
six
months
of
that
to
reduce
your
actuarial
liability.
So
you
can
retire
without
penalty
at
29.5
years,
and
you
know
some
people
save
it
up,
so
they
can
do
that.
I
was
one
of
them.
You
know.
J
D
A
B
O
We
have
received
names
of
nominees
for
two
at-large
positions
for
councils.
Can
we've
received
the
names
for
two
at
large
positions
for
council's
consideration?
Council
may
also
choose
up
to
two
alternate
members
from
the
pool
we
have
so
does
council
desire
alternates.
That's
the
first
question.
We
have.
B
B
B
Okay,
so
just
for
the
record
since
we're
doing
this
transparently,
the
district
1
representative
appointee
is
ashley.
Mayer
district
2
appointee
is
bill,
dryberg
district
3,
representative
appointee
is
derrick,
rooney
district
4
appointee
is
mark
mcmahon
and
district
5
appointee
is
nancy
prafke,
and
then
we
will
vote
for
the
two
at
large.
B
B
N
D
O
B
My
belief
and
my
my
desire
would
be
for
us
to
have
those
requests
brought
before
the
council.
I
know
that
in
past
councils,
anytime,
a
former
council
member
would
go
to
florida
league
of
cities,
for
example,
to
either
the
statewide
conference
or
to
legislative
days
or
to
the
legislative
conference
or
any
of
those
type
of
events.
B
It
was
always
brought
to
a
council
meeting
and
it
was
just
basically
a
knot
of
approval
that
the
expenses
would
be
paid
for
by
the
city,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
really
really
transparent
when
we're
doing
travel.
That
represents
the
city.
So
I
would
like
to
have
an
official
policy
in
place
where
any
time
a
council
member
is
going
to
travel
and
request
city
reimbursement
that
I
think
it
should
be
run
through
the
council
so
that
it's
just
on
the
record
and
we're
being
transparent
to
our
constituents.
A
A
B
I
disagree,
I
think
I
think
you
know
we
we've
been
under
a
lot
of
scrutiny
for
a
budget
that
they
weren't
expecting
and,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that,
when
we're
spending
city
dollars,
I
think
it
needs
to
be.
Everybody
on.
The
council
should
at
least
know
what
you're
going
to
attend
and
what
your.
What
your
purpose
and
going
to
that
meeting
is
going
to
be.
A
No,
no.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
that
shouldn't
this,
this
is
not
there's
no
need
for
deliberation
on
our
involvement
in
state
and
regional
bodies,
because
we
are
a
city
and
we're
part
of
the
greater
conversation
just
going
to
these
conferences.
We
interact
with
colleagues
and
we
get
decided
it's
like.
I
see
no
purpose
in
having
to
deliberate
over
something
this
important
to
every
city.
A
I
mean
we
can't
act
like
an
ostrich,
put
our
head
in
the
sand
and
think
only
about
pontegorda
only
because
for
us
to
really
run
final
water
properly,
we've
got
to
be
with
best
practices
in
our
field,
and
I
think
that
there's
no
need
for
us
to
deliberate
on
something
which
is
really
as
basic
as
it
is
for
every
municipality
city
and
county
in
the
state.
Their
people
go
to
these
conferences.
This
is
what
you
do
you
do
this,
because
you
keep
yourself
at
the
head.
You're.
B
A
A
B
Not
saying
that
at
all
you're
missing
my
whole
point,
my
point
is:
I
think
that
if
you're
going
to
a
conference
representing
the
city,
it
would
be
nice
for
the
other
council
members
to
know
you're
going
if
there's
something
we
would
like
for
you
to
do
for
us
on
our
behalf.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
know
you're
going
and
we
can.
We
can
put
a
message
in
your
hat,
so
you
can
take
it
with
you.
A
A
A
A
Yes,
you
do
all
of
us
go.
We
every
one
of
us
gets
our
notice
from
the
league
of
cities.
To
go.
I
mean
because
you
choose
not
to
go,
doesn't
mean
you're
not
means
you're,
not
going,
but
every
single
year,
all
of
us
get
from
the
florida
league
cities,
the
announcements
for
annual
conference
legislative
conference
and
our
policy
things
every
one
of
us
get
exactly
the
same
invitation.
It's
not
specific
to
council
members.
K
I
I
think
that
and
again
being
new
what
happens
right
now?
What
you're
proposing
is
just
having
on
the
agenda
that
in
two
weeks,
council
member
cummings
is
going
to
go
to
this
or
council
member
lockhart
is
going
to
go
to
this,
and
these
are
the
upcoming
things
that
your
council
members
in
the
city,
punic
order
are
being
out
representing
and
getting
more
information.
B
B
It's
not
an
approval,
it's
not
a
deliberation.
It's
just
being
up
front
and
and
sharing
I'm
gonna
be
going
to
this
conference.
Is
there
anything
that
you
would
like
me
to
take
forward
to
this
meeting?
That's
all
I'm
asking
for.
I
think
I
think
it's
important
that
our
constituents
know
that
we're
traveling
to
all
these
things
and
representing
the
city-
and
you
know
there
may
have
been
something
we
could
have
we
could
have
put
in
in
your
hands
to
take
with
you
to
that
conference.
Just
in
case
the
opportunity
presented
itself.
K
That's
that's
all
this
is,
and
I
also
think
too
having
some
new
council
members
that
there
might
be
things
that
we're
just
not
aware
of,
or
we
see
our
emails
and
we're
not
sure
are
we
to
be
involved
in
that
or
whatnot.
So,
if
it
was
on
the
agenda
that
you're
going
to
be
participating,
something
in
a
couple
weeks,
it
might
give
us
you
know
hey.
I
would
like
to
participate
with
you
or
do
I
know
more
about
that
kind
of
thing
and.
B
I-
and
I
also
you
know-
I've
talked
to
the
city
manager
about
this
and
city
clerk
as
well
when
all
of
our
council
members
go
to
these
board
and
committee
meetings
every
month
locally
to
all
the
the
semi-local
and
local
type
of
events.
I
think
it
would
be
really
important
for
us
to
have
each
council
member
bring
back
a
brief
report
on
things
that
are
transpiring
that
might
might
affect
the
city.
We
we've
gotten
away
from
that.
B
I
think
it
would
be
kind
of
nice
to
have
some
kind
of
knowledge
of
things
that
are
going
on
with
some
of
these
board
and
committee
meetings
that
you
guys
attend,
and
and
for
me
too,
I
mean
I,
I
usually
always
try
to
share
things
that
the
npl
board
brings
up
on
their
counsel
or
on
their
meeting
agendas.
So
I
just
think
that
it's
just
transparency
and
information
sharing,
that's.
A
All
it
really
is,
as
you
know,
just
like.
I
said
this
last
two
trips
I
took
they
weren't
city
trips,
but
I
took
them
for
the
purpose
of
research
for
the
city.
I
share
constantly.
That's
where
I
go.
No,
I
understand
what
melissa
is
saying.
I
think
that,
as
long
as
we're
clear
that
it's
serious
we're
simply
sharing
for
information
purposes,
that's
fine!
That's
all
it
is,
but
the
word
tribal
policy
sounded
like
something
else.
That's
all.
B
It's
just
information
sharing
that
I'm
going
to
this
conference
and
if
it's
a
florida
league
of
cities
we're
going
to
assume
that
it's
being
reimbursed
by
the
city.
Yes,
if
it's
something
else,
then
maybe
the
city
shouldn't
be
paying
for
it
and
that
the
city
pays
for
nothing
else.
Okay,
so
that's
that's
all
it
really
was.
I
mean
I'm
not
trying
to
start
a
war
over
this.
I
just
wanted.
I
B
A
B
B
Do
a
one
or
two
paragraph
accounting
of
some
of
the
meetings
that
you
attend
on
a
monthly
or
bi-monthly
basis,
and
just
do
a
maybe
one
or
two-paragraph
type
of
report
that
you
can
give
to
the
city
manager.
It
can
be
added
to
the
agenda
at
some
point,
just
updates
on
different
things
happening
with
different
committees.
B
O
All
right
so
under
city
council
service
boards
and
committees,
we
have
an
assignment
to
be
made
to
the
charlotte
county
veterans
council.
At
the
previous
council
meeting.
It
was
expressed
that
it
would
be
ideal
to
appoint
a
veteran
and
everyone
met
todd
health.
This
morning
he's
put
himself
forward,
so
we
just
need
consensus
that
he
should
serve.
B
And
you
know
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
todd
right
after
the
council
meeting
two
weeks
ago
and
he
was
very
very
excited
about
the
chance
of
being
on
this
committee
and
representing
the
city.
I
did
clear
it
through
the
city
manager's
office
and
the
city
clerk's
office,
and
they
were
both
in
agreement
that
it
would
be
a
good
fit
and
and
there
he
is,
but
todd's
a
veteran
and-
and
I
think
I
think
it's
really
important
for
the
city
to
have
a
voice
on
that
committee.
B
N
D
O
All
right
and
then
under
vacancies,
we
have
one
unexpired
term
on
the
pinnacore
housing
authority.
Two
unexpired
alternate
terms
on
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
and
two
unexpired
alternate
terms
on
the
code
enforcement
board
under
appointments.
We
have
two
regular
terms
on
the
historic
preservation
advisory
board.
Mr
brad
gamblin
and
miss
valerie
colbert
are
eligible
for
reappointment
and
have
expressed
an
interest
in
continuing
to
serve
mr
david
perry.
An
alternate
since
april.
2021
has
also
expressed
an
interest
in
serving
so
I
have
another
round
of
voting
sheets
for
everybody.
E
D
O
A
B
We
have
a
motion
in
a
sec.
Sorry,
I'm
losing
my
place
here
on
the
agenda.
For
some
reason,
my
computer
just
decided
not
to
open
up
a
file.
Okay,
we're
talking
about
bza
right,
yes,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
nominat
when
we
have
motion
in
a
second
to
nominate
and
appoint
mr
valdez
any
further
discussion.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye,
aye,
aye,
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
O
A
B
B
B
B
B
Okay,
we
will
be
reconnoitering
with
the
antique
fire
truck
and
information
will
follow
by
email
and,
let's
see
december
11th
will
be
the
christmas
parade
again
as
who's
participating
in
the
parade.
Everybody.
Okay,
this
is
a
candy
event,
so
everybody
bring
candy
and
december
16th.
We
have
the
budweiser
clydesdales
coming
to
town
and
I
have
an
mpo
board
meeting
that
afternoon,
so
I
may
or
may
not
be
there.
So,
oh
you
have
to
skip
the.
B
B
Yeah,
no,
you
don't
I've
seen
them
before
and
they're
awesome.
It's
pretty
pretty
incredible
and
florida
legislative
days
in
tallahassee
will
be
coming
up
on
february,
8th
and
9th,
and
I'd
like
to
find
out
who
would
be
interested
in
going
to
the
florida
legislative
days,
because
we
we
will
need
to
let
our
lobbyists
know
who's
going.
So
he
can
make
arrangements
for
meetings
with
all
of
our
legislative
folks
individually,
while
we're
up
there.
So,
if
anybody's
planning
on
going,
I
need
to
know
so
we
can
give
the
information
to
him.
You
think
you're
going.
B
Okay,
all
right!
I
cannot
go
okay
and
last
but
not
least
well
not
last.
Actually
I
have
two
more
things.
I.
I
really
hope
that
we
don't
ever
have
another
email
situation
like
we
had
last
week.
That
was
pretty
disastrous
and
I
really
would
like
to
make
sure
we
have
some
kind
of
a
stop
gap
measure
in
place
so
that
we
don't
have
no
email
access
for
two
days
for
some
of
our
council
members.
It
was
very
inconvenient
and
very
unfortunate
because
we
have
to
be
accountable
to
our
constituents
all
the
time.
B
B
This
week
gave
them
some
direction
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
they
went
out
and
they
pulled
all
the
cert,
the
surplus
polls
on
magdalena
and
on
a
kia
star,
and
this
week
they
were
working
on
coronado
and
we're
going
to
keep
giving
them
piles
of
poles
to
be
pulling
down
because
they
had
over
150
duplicate
poles
that
were
out
there.
So
they
are
working
feverishly
to
try
to
get
caught
up
a
little
bit.
B
N
Okay,
well,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
staff
that
continue
to
amaze
me
with
how
quickly
they
respond
to
requests
from
council
members.
You
guys
are
awesome
and
it
makes
I
cannot
tell
you
what
my
constituency
thinks
when
I
ask
these
really
convoluted
questions,
and
you
know
I
it's
like
almost
before
I
can
hit
send
the
answer
is
there?
I
just
appreciate
you
guys
so
much
and
some
of
the
people
that
I'm
talking
to
aren't
in
the
room,
but
many
of
you
are-
and
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
and
I'm
very
thankful
for
you.
K
B
D
D
J
K
J
A
Okay,
I
did
come
prepared
from
the
legislative
conference
just
a
few
things,
a
lot
of
what
this
was
discussed,
dealt
with
pre
and
post
disaster
and
the
city
being
sustainable.
It
also
talked
about
using
the
arpa
funding.
You
know
that
you
know
this
one
time
funding.
We
have
the
covert
relief
funds
and
just
discussions
on
how
cities
can
use
this
to
do
things
that
maybe
you
couldn't
have
done.