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Code Enforcement Board 4-28-2021
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B
F
B
C
C
H
D
C
C
C
With
all
the
parties
that
plan
to
testify
at
the
hearing
today,
please
stand
and
be
sworn.
I
Mr
bowman,
can
you
pull
that
microphone
a
little
down?
Yes,
I
can
thank
you
all
right.
Anyone
intending
to
offer
testimony
in
today's
proceedings.
Please
stand
and
raise
your
right
hand,
do
you
solemnly
swear
or
affirm
to
tell
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth
in
today's
proceedings,
when
you're
ready
to
speak,
please
step
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
and
indicate
you've
been
sworn.
Thank
you.
I
And
if
you
could
just
have
people
state
their
names
when
they
make
motions?
Thank
you.
E
C
F
A
C
Start
first
case
case
number
20-78356
code,
compliance
officer,
alan
mcdaniel
violations
of
chapter
26,
section
8.11,
sub
paragraph
b,
violation
of
chapter
9,
section
9-12,
sub,
paragraph
e,
torn
missing,
pool,
cage,
screening
and
violation
of
chapter
9,
section
9-2
sub-paragraph
a
broken
light.
Fixtures
is
the
respondent
for
this
case
present.
C
H
Chapter
9
section
9-2-a
on
february,
17
2021,
a
notice
of
violation
in
order
for
corrective
action
was
sent
to
the
respondent,
be
a
certified
mail
which
was
received
on
february
19,
2021
ordering
corrective
action
be
taken
and
the
torn
or
missing
pool
screens
on
the
pool,
cage
on
the
on
the
property
be
repaired
or
replaced,
and
the
broken
light.
Fixtures
on
the
front
of
the
house,
structure
and
re-yard
of
the
property
must
be
repaired.
H
H
I
reinspected
the
property
on
april
27
2021
and
found
that
the
torn
or
missing
pool
schemes
remained
on
the
pool,
cage
on
the
rear
of
the
property
and
the
broken
leg.
Fixtures
remained
on
the
front
of
the
house
structure
and
rear
yard
on
the
property.
I'm
submitting
an
invoice
for
case
costs
in
the
amount
of
11.97.
H
A
C
H
B
The
receipt
of
this
order
is
further
ordered
that
the
respondent
are
required
to
pay
case
costs
incurred
in
the
amount
of
11.97
within
10
days.
The
receipt
of
this
order.
It
is
further
ordered
that
failure
to
comply
with
this
order
may
cause
the
code
enforcement
board
to
impose
a
fine
of
up
to
250
per
day
plus
applicable
interest.
C
B
C
Should
I
vote?
I
guess
if
you
have
a
vote
on
the
motion
that's
presented.
So
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
is
presented.
Please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
any
opposition
none
motion
is
carried.
Can
we
take
a
five
second
pause?
I
have
a
screen,
that's
on
top
of
the
regular
screen,
which
apparently
nobody
else
has
and
it
blocks
everything
that
I
see.
D
B
B
C
C
C
Code
21-78617
officer
alan
mcdaniel,
respondent
douglas
engberg
address,
the
violation
is
3837
in
bermuda.
Court
violations
are
chapter
26,
section,
8.14,
subset,
h,
subset,
2,
walkway,
installed;
second
charge
violation
of
chapter
26,
section
1.4,
1.5
and
1.10;
no
permit
and
violation
of
chapter
26,
section
8.13,
subset
a
subset
one,
subset
b,
the
subset
c
d
and
subset
one
and
violation
of
chapter
26,
section
12.4,
subset
d,
sub
paragraph
eight,
a
c
d
and
e
unapproved
ground
cover
is
the
respondent
present
respondent
is
not
present.
H
Within
14
days
of
receipt
of
the
notice
on
march
22
2021,
I
reinspected
the
property
and
found
that
the
pavers
remained
installed
on
the
front
yard,
on
the
property,
creating
a
walkway
greater
than
five
feet
in
width
and
the
landscape.
Components
remained
on
the
property
and
the
unimproved
unapproved
ground
shell
ground
cover
remained
on
the
property.
H
I
reinspected
the
property
on
april
27
2021
and
found
that
the
pavers
remained
installed
on
the
front
yard,
on
the
property,
creating
a
walkway
greater
than
five
feet
in
width
and
the
landscape.
Components
remained
on
the
property
and
the
unapproved
shell
ground
cover
remained
on
the
property,
I'm
submitting
an
invoice
for
case
cost
in
the
amount
of
12
dollars
and
42
cents.
G
C
H
B
So
would
would
a
permit.
B
B
J
Good
morning,
lisa
hannon
zoning
official
and
I
have
been
sworn
so.
We
have
a
provision
in
the
code
that
only
allows
for
10
percent
of
inorganic
mulch
or
inorganic
ground
cover
within
any
yard,
so
shell
can
be
used
in
part
of
landscape
beds,
but
not
as
an
actual
ground
cover
in
the
entirety
of
the
yard,
which
is
what
seems
to
be
happening
here
so
depending
upon
what
the
respondent
is
wanting
to
do
would
depend
on
whether
the
permit
could
be
approved
or
not.
J
We
don't
know
what
his
intentions
are,
so
I
can't
actually
answer
whether
a
permit
would
be
approved
for
what
he
is,
because
we
don't
know
what
he's
trying
we
don't
know
what
the
end
end
result
will
be,
so
the
first
step
would
be
to
submit
a
permit
to
see
what
could
be
approved
and
and
then
we
could
work
with
him
from
there.
But
we've
not
even
received
that.
I.
F
H
That
is
correct.
That's
why
this
case
was
opened.
I,
as
I
was
there
to
take
pictures
for
the
previous
case
that
the
board
heard.
I
noticed
that
that
there
were
multiple
violations
on
the
property.
H
I
did
not
speak
with
him
when
you
know
we
were
going
through
the
other
case
other
than
just
email,
correspondence
back
and
forth
regarding
the
hearings
that
that
he
had
pending.
But
we
did
not
discuss
this
matter
at
all
so.
H
Well,
he
was
he
was
sent
in
and
it
clearly
stated
in
that
that
permits
were
required,
and
you
know
the
ground
cover
was
unapproved
and
he
had
structural
landscape
components.
So
it
was
all
spelled
out
in
the
notice
of
violation
that
he
received
and
signed
for
and
since.
J
C
G
Chapter
26,
section
8.14,
h2,
chapter
26,
section
1.4,
1.5,
1.10
and
chapter
26,
section
8.13,
a
1
b,
c
d,
1
and
chapter
26,
section
12.4
d,
8,
a
c
d
and
e
in
order
that
the
respondent
bring
the
property
into
compliance
within
30
days
of
receipt
of
this
order.
And
it
is
further
ordered
that
the
respondents
are
required
to
pay
the
case.
Cost
incurred
in
the
amount
of
12-42
within
10
days
of
receipt
of
this
order.
C
D
E
Weiner
motion
to
deny
the
request
for
fine
reduction.
C
C
B
C
Fine
reduction
request
case
number
19-7,
2,
425
code,
compliance
officer,
libosia
price,
jr,
respondent,
tidewater,
virginia
holdings,
llc
address
169,
colonial
point,
drive
the
violations
are
violation
of
chapter
9:
that's
sarah
chapter
9,
section
9-12,
sub-e,
maintenance
of
sea
walls;
second
violation,
chapter
9,
section,
9-2,
subset
g
danger,
blight,
third
violation:
chapter
6,
section,
6-1,
subset
d
and
chapter
26,
section
8.13,
subset
a
seawall
and
disrepair
is
the
respondent.
Present
respondent
is
not
present.
C
G
D
K
D
C
H
H
His
request
for
reduction
of
fine
would
be
treated
as
a
request
for
a
reduction
of
fine
pursuant
to
chapter
162,
section
162.092c
florida
statutes,
city
staff
has
stipulated
that
if
the
reduction
of
the
fine
is
approved
and
if
payment
of
any
remaining
fine
amount
is
not
paid
within
a
date
ordered
by
the
board
that
the
lien
remain
valid.
As
recorded
in
the
public
records
of
charlotte
county
florida,
I
inspected
the
property
on
april
27,
2021
and
the
property
is
in
compliance
at
this
time.
Total
amount
currently
due
with
interest
on
this
lien,
is.
C
K
Well,
we
fixed
the
trees.
You
know,
we
didn't
know
we
couldn't
plant
them,
we
didn't
know
where
we
really
could
plant
them.
So
a
tree
company
put
them
there
and
you
know
we
fixed
the
problem.
We
did
the
swell
we
you
know
did
everything
he
asked
us
to
do
so.
I
guess
that's
what
you
wanted.
We
got.
It
done,
that's
a
big
fun
for
some
palm
trees,
but
they're
corrected.
I
mean
all
I
can
do
is
ask
for
forgiveness
and
hopefully
we
get
the
spine
reduced
or
taken
away.
B
Yes,
you,
I
think
you
originally
came
in
during
the
first
case
and
and
we
had
some
discussion
in
reference
to
the
trees,
and
you
were
you
said:
you'd
have
you
were
having
problems
getting
a
guy
back
to
remove
the
trees
yeah,
but
then,
during
the
second
meeting
for
the
actual
fine,
where
we
issued,
we
issued
a
fine.
Were
you
present
at
that
meeting.
K
I
don't
know
if
I
was
not,
you
know,
because
I'm
back
and
forth
from
virginia
to
florida,
so
sometimes
I
hear
sometimes
I'm
not.
I
don't
think
I
was
there
for
the
second
one.
As
I
recall,
that's
correct,
okay,
but
we
did
correct
it.
I
didn't
know
you
could
I
you
know
if
I
had
to
get
a
permit,
we
know
that
you
couldn't
plant
them
there.
I
didn't
know
where
the
swell
you
know
I
didn't
know
whether
you
couldn't
plant
them
in
the
right
of
way.
K
For
quite
a
while
yeah
I
mean
we
don't
have
a
book
where
we
can
figure
out
where
we
I
mean,
I
see
them
up
down
the
road.
So
that's
where
my
guys
planted
them.
You
know
so
I
had
to
get
somebody
else
to
move
them,
and
you
know
those
big
trees
like
that.
You
really
have
to
have
a
lot
of
water
on
them,
so
we've
been
trying
to
keep
them
living.
On
top
of
that.
K
G
H
H
E
I
I
I
think,
looking
at
the
photograph
that
you've
done
a
yeoman's
job
of
moving
the
trees,
you
can
see
where
the
new
sod
has
been
planted.
Where
the
excuse
me
old
trees
were
in
the
swale.
E
G
C
C
B
You
didn't
no
problem
with
the
emotion
we
didn't
state
that
full
payment
needs
to
be
paid
within
x.
B
E
Yeah
it
payment
of
city
costs
and
the
fifteen
hundred
dollars
within
within
20
days.
C
C
B
C
A
D
You
know
the
discretion,
someone
on
the
prevailing
side,
which
is
to
make
a
motion
to
reopen
the
and
reconsider
the
the
action
you
would
have
the
discretion
to.
E
K
The
problem
is
too
that
when
you
do
that,
I
have
all
these
locks
tied
up
in
other
properties
that
one
and
knock
at
one
point
I
don't
know
where
my
office
made
a
mistake,
but
they
told
me
9
30
today,
so
I
mean
I
drove
an
hour
and
a
half
to
get
here.
K
C
L
L
For
the
record
laboratory
price,
junior
co,
compliance
officer
for
the
city
of
punta
gorda
and
I
have
been
sworn
I'm
submitting,
one
photo
for
the
record.
The
picture
submitted
for
evidence
is
a
true
and
accurate
representation
of
the
conditions
of
the
site.
At
the
time
the
picture
was
taken
on
january
27,
2021
the
board
imposed
a
penalty
against
the
respondent
ty
water
virginia.
L
I
mean
your
tidewater
virginia
holdings,
llc
an
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars
for
fifteen
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
plus
case
cost
incurred
in
amount
of
forty
seven
dollars
and
two
cent
plus
four
point.
Eight
one
percent
applicable
interest.
On
february
1st
2021,
the
order
imposing
penalty
was
received
by
the
respondents
via
certified
return
receipt
mail.
The
property
was
brought
into
compliance
on
march
30th
2021.
L
On
march
23rd
2021
the
respondent
todd
water
virginia
holding
llc's
authorized
representative
ronnie
b
neff
jr
filed
with
this
board
a
request
for
reduction
of
fine
in
the
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
four
hundred
forty
seven
dollars
and
two
cents
requesting
that.
The
issues
regarding
this
matter
be
discussed,
discussed
before
the
board.
L
L
Staff
city
staff
has
stipulated
that
if
the
reductional
fine
is
approved
and
the
payment
of
any
remaining
fine
amount
is
not
paid
within
a
date
ordered
by
the
board
that
the
liens
remain
valid.
As
reported
in
public
record
of
charlotte
county
florida,
I
inspected
the
property
on
april
27th
and
the
property
is
in
compliance
at
this
time.
K
Well,
thanks
for
hearing
the
case,
since
we
were
late,
then
the
second
thing
is:
we
got
two
exact
cases,
because
we
had
four
seat
ball
caps.
We
did
two
of
them
jay
and
e
marine
did
them.
We,
you
know
hired
him
what
a
year
ago
probably-
and
he
just
can't
get
the
help
to
do
him,
and
he
I
think
after
we
went
to
this
meeting,
he
did
him
within
maybe
a
month
and
a
half
had
him
done.
K
F
B
And
at
that
time
we
said
it
would
take
a
while
to
get
the
work
done,
so
we
actually
allowed
an
extended
period
of
time
of
180
days
in
the
receipt
of
the
order.
B
K
L
Up
the
property
was
in
compliance
on
march
30th,
but
the
seawall
was
completed
before
that
he
still
needed
to
put
side
down
within
six
feet
of
the
sea
wall.
K
And
the
thing
is
we
had
four
of
them
to
do.
He
he
did
do
two
of
them
got
those
completed
and
passed,
but
he
still
had
the
other
two
to
finish
up.
So
you
know
he
just
and
I
we
called
you,
know:
10
15,
different
sea
wall
companies
and
nobody,
you
can't
you
know
we
just
couldn't
get
anybody
else
to
come
out
and
do
them
quick,
everybody's
busy
nobody's
got
the
help.
A
lot
of
people
aren't
working,
I
mean,
but
we
did
hire.
K
K
No,
we
we
had
four
seawall
caps,
not
just
that
one.
We
had
four
total.
Actually
five,
we
did
three
of
them.
He
still
had
two
left
to
finish
so
we
had
been.
We
got
put
on
notice
for
every
sea
wall
cap
at
the
same
time,
so
we
had
we
weren't
just
not
doing
no
sea
walls,
he
he
had
done
two
or
three
already.
C
K
K
C
Oh,
I
I
guess
I'm
having
difficulty
understand.
I
have
a
sea
wall
at
my
house.
I
watch
the
city,
repair,
sea
walls.
They
put
in
a
very
long
section
of
seawall,
so
I'm
not
sure
about
these
sections,
but
they're
usually
composed
of
what
I
see
them.
They
did
my
property.
They
did
eight
sections
at
one
time
and
then
they
would
extend
it
into
my
neighbors.
So
I'm
a
little.
K
K
So
you
know
I
called
even
other
contractors,
but
once
we
came
to
the
hearing
like
this
because
they
weren't
done
all
of
them,
you
know
he
had
actually
had
them
done
within,
because
I
mean
we
were
really
on
them.
Then,
and
if
I
called
somebody
else,
it
would
have
taken
even
longer
because
nobody's
take
a
lot
most
of
the
companies
aren't
even
taking
on
new
work
right
now,
so
you
know
most
of
them
a
lot
of
people
just
aren't
working.
You
can't
get
them
done,
but
it's
not
like.
We
didn't
do
any
sea
wall
caps.
K
We
had
done
three.
We
still
had
these
two
to
finish
up
and
plus
we
had
trees,
and
you
know
at
the
other
place
too
so.
C
To
understand
yeah
we
have
just
watched
the
city,
do
the
sea
walls
and
where
I
am,
and
is
there
any
any
further
questions
for
mr
neff
I'll
entertain?
A
motion
is
to
resolve
this
case.
A
C
E
L
C
G
There's
a
difference
in
the
days
required
based
on
the
previous
fine
that
we
installed,
we
said
20
days.
Could
we
make
them
consistent,
perhaps
so
that
20
days
to
come
up
with
the
money
and
pay
the
fine?
B
B
C
A
A
M
L
For
the
record,
lavoisier
price,
junior,
co-compliance
officer
for
the
city
of
punta
gorda
and
I
have
been
sworn
I'm
submitting-
one
photo
for
the
record
because
it's
submitted
for
evidence
is
a
true
and
accurate
representation
of
the
conditions
of
the
site.
At
the
time
the
picture
was
taken
on
january
27,
2021
the
board
imposed
a
penalty
against
the
respondent,
tidewater
virginia
holding
llc
in
an
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
four
hundred
dollars,
plus
case
costs
incurred
and
the
amount
of
47
dollars
in
two
cent
plus
4.81
applicable
interest.
L
L
On
march
23rd
2021,
the
res
responded:
tidewater
virginia
holdings,
llc's
authorized
respondent,
ronnie
b
knapp
jr
filed
with
this
board
a
request
for
reduction
of
fine
and
the
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
four
hundred
forty
seven
dollars
and
two
cent
requesting
that
the
issues
regarding
this
matter
be
discussed
before
the
board.
On
march
30th
2021
a
notice
of
hearing
for
a
reduction
of
fine
request
to
the
april
28
2021
code
enforcement
board
meeting
was
sent
to
the
respondent
and
authorized
representatives
via
certified
return.
L
Receipt
mail
which
was
received
on
april
1
2021
by
the
respondent
respondent
tidewater
virginia
holding
llc
and
authorized
agent
ronnie
b
nuff
jr
were
notified
that
their
request
for
reduction
of
fine
would
be
treated
as
a
request
for
reduction
of
fine.
Pursuant
to
chapter
162,
section
162.092
c
florida
statute,
city
staff
has
stipulated
that
if
a
reduction
of
fine
is
approved
and
the
payment
is
of
any
remaining
fine
is
not
paid
within
the
date
ordered
by
the
board
that
the
lien
remains
valid.
L
As
reported
in
public
record
of
charlotte
county,
I
florida
the
property
on
april
27,
2021
and
the
property
is
in
compliance
at
this
time.
The
total
amount
currently
due
in
interest
with
interest
on
this
lien
is
15
603.76,
I'm
submitting
an
invoice
an
amount
of
26
dollars
for
additional
case
costs
incurred.
C
Okay,
and
is
it
possible
for
in
lieu
of
mr
neff
repeating
his
explanation
again?
Can
we
incorporate
his
previous
testimony
into
this
case?
Well,.
D
K
I
can't
I
mean
same
situation
same
guy
saying
see
what
we
had
the
contract
to
do
them
all
just
to
keep
the
whole
thing
set.
You
know
I
figured
it'd
be
quicker
for
him.
K
C
J
F
Motion
to
find
that
the
reduction
of
fine
request
is
approved
and
that
the
fine
in
the
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
four
hundred
and
forty
seven
dollars
and
two
cents
plus
four
point.
Eight
one
percent
applicable
interest
issued
in
the
previous
order
of
january
27,
2021
plus
additional
case
costs
in
the
amount
of
26
dollars
and
six
cents
is
reduced
to
five
thousand
dollars.
And
it
is
further
ordered
that
the
respondents
shall
submit
full
payment
within
15
days
of
this.
F
Of
the
entry
of
this
order
after
the
payment,
the
city
shall
issue
a
satisfaction
of
lien
which
shall
be
recorded
by
the
respondent
at
their
sole
costs
and
expense.
It
is
further
ordered
that
if
the
respondent
fails
to
submit
payment
to
the
city
within
the
time
specified
here
in
the
remaining
unpaid,
fine
in
the
amount
of
15,
oh
15,
447.
C
L
C
B
The
motion
of
to
to
find
that
the
reduction
of
the
fine
is
approved
and
defined
in
the
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
four
hundred
forty
seven
dollars
and
two
cents
plus
four
point.
Eight
one
percent
applicable
interest
issued
in
the
previous
order
of
january
27,
2021
plus
additional
case
costs
incurred
in
the
amount
of
twenty
six
dollars
and
six
cents
is
reduced
to
twenty
five
hundred
dollars,
and
it
is
further
ordered
that
the
respondent
shall
submit
full
payment
within
fifteen
days
of
this
order.
B
After
payment,
the
city
shall
issue
a
satisfaction
of
lien
which
shall
be
recorded
by
the
respondent
at
their
sole
cost
and
expense.
It
is
further
ordered
that
if
the
respondent
fails
to
submit
full
payment
to
the
city
within
a
time
frame
specified
herein
the
remaining
unfair,
unpaid,
fine
in
the
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
four
hundred
forty
seven
dollars
and
two
cents
plus
four
point.
Eight
one
percent
applicable
interest
issued
in
the
previous
order
of
january
27
2021
shall
remain
valid.
B
I'd
just
like
to
clarify
that
that
I.
E
B
Mr
neph,
I
mean
he
did.
He
did
take
some
time
to
accomplish
the
the
order,
but
he
did
accomplish
it.
The
properties
are
in
city
compliance
right
now
and-
and
I
feel
that
the
reduction
of
to
the
2500
is
is
applicable
in
this
case,
I
don't.
I
certainly
don't
believe
that
it
should
have
been
dropped
down
to
to
zero,
because
it
just
took
too
long
to
to
get
this
property
into
compliance.
C
F
B
Yes,
you
see
the
okay,
the
code,
compliance
clerk,
okay,
okay,.
A
C
I
guess
the
issue
was:
I
was
getting
concerned
about
the
amount
of
these
fines,
based
on
your
previous,
citing
a
case
on
excessive
fines
versus
the
how
serious
the
violation
is,
but
I
don't
think
we
have
that
right
now
anymore.
So
if
you
recall
that.
D
D
You
had
asked
about
the
the
context
was
with
respect
to
the
plattner
case
and
yeah,
and
we
had,
I
mean
huge
fines
in
that
case
and
and
the
violations
were
basically
landscaping
and
things,
and
so
there's
needs
to
be
a
balancing
I'll.
Let
you
know
if
I
think
at
some
point
in
time
the
fine
seems
to
be
way
out
of
whack,
but
clearly
the
courts
do
recognize
that
it's
your
discretion
and
and
in
in
the
absence
of
an
abuse
of
discretion,
the
courts
will
uphold
your
determinations.
D
Just
saying
an
appropriate
case,
maybe
it's
worth
you
know
worth
it.
There
are
several
factors
in
the
statute
that
need
to
be
considered
the
gravity
of
the
violation
or
whether
they've
been
previous
violations,
and
the
third
escapes
me
at
the
moment,
but
thank
you.
B
Yeah,
I
I
do
have
something
else.
A
couple
of
meetings
ago,
code,
compliance
officer
or
supervisor
mccarty
gave
us
this
printout
of
existing
cases
and
where
they
stand,
and
I
do
after
reviewing
it.
I
do
have
a
question
in
reference
to.
If
you
look
at
the
status,
there
are
several
properties
that
are
cases
that
say:
property
is
in
compliance
and
there
is
still
a
fine
and
it's
recorded
so
and
they're
signified
in
in
a
white
color.
B
And
if
you
go
to,
let
me
see
david,
it's
if
you
go
to
the
second
page,
the
second
second
one
from
the
top
yeah.
M
B
That
that
the
case
is
still
pending,
it
is
in
compliance,
but
the
people
haven't
come
in.
M
Before
the
fine
reductions
are
ready,
still
recorded
and
the
properties
in
compliance
at
this
time,
they
just
haven't
come
in
for
reduction
and
code.
Liens
are
valid
for
20
years.
Okay,.
E
M
That
would
determine
by
if
they
had
any
mortgages
or
tax
liens
or
anything
like
that
on
any
superior
lean
would
take
precedence
over
that,
but
that
would
be
the
time
when
it
would
be
taken.
Care
of
it
would
either
have
to
be
extinguished,
because
the
other
superior
liens
took
all
the
money
that
was
available,
that
that
would
be
determined
at
that
time.
B
Mr
neff,
if
he
was
here
at
the
when
we
issued
a
fine,
he
was
here,
but
we
had
a
significant
caseload.
I
think,
due
to
all
the
sign
cases
and
his
was
toward
the
back,
so
I
I
he
probably
couldn't
stay
that
long.
So
that's
why
I
found
it
kind
of
appropriate
that
a
lot
of
these
cases
with
the
people
just
show
avoidance
behavior.
That's
that's!
That's
a
phrase
coined
by
vic
poitras,
a
former
board
member.
B
G
Well,
I'm
kind
of
a
cynic
in
some
respects.
It's
surprising
that
after
the
last
time
when
we
assigned
the
large
fines,
fifteen
thousand
dollar
fines
and
the
nine
thousand
dollar
fine
that
all
of
a
sudden,
the
contractor
was
available
to
fix
this,
the
caps
after
over
a
year
right.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
there
was
a
little
bit
of
motivation
involved.