City of Punta Gorda 2021 Historic Preservation Advisory Board, 27 May 2021

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Historic Preservation Advisory Board 5-27-2021

A

You kept dying.

A

I was involved in the restoration of a building fairly good sized building elsewhere and they somehow somewhere. Somebody had installed clocks and the thing was well. Let's just get rid of it. You know boy, you thought it was somebody's firstborn.

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C

We're gonna start at nine.

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The longest minute.

C

Good morning uh this is the may 27th meeting. I mean 2021 meeting of the historic preservation advisory board, I'd like to call it to order, and before we begin, uh we have two new alternates with us today. I'd like them to introduce themselves. Please.

E

Good morning, my name is if.

C

You could um sorry step up to the yeah.

F

C

Could get it for the minutes.

E

Good morning my name is lucille ponte. My husband and I moved here last year and we're looking forward to participating in the community.

C

G

Good morning my name is david perry. I've been here for four years prior to that I was in naples for approximately 30 years, um so I moved north, uh but I'm glad to be here and glad to participate. Thank you thank.

C

You david okay, leah. Would you like to do the roll call.

F

Yes, uh julie price president donna peterman here, beth magnan, here, brad gamlin, here kelly frolic here, valerie, colbert, adrian andrea, sorry, it's so hard to say. I'm very.

C

Used to it, I did get it right. The first time I was very.

E

Proud of myself, yeah he's very good.

C

Yes, okay, all right. Our next scheduled meeting is june 24th 2021 and before we begin uh are there any citizens comments on agenda items. Only all right see. None like to move to the approval of the minutes. Can I have a motion so moved? Second, all in favor, aye aye, okay motion carries unanimously and fabiano new business.

D

All right, so I want to apologize a little bit ahead of time, as it says, attached application when there isn't. This is just information only so there is no application attached for both cas. I will be speaking on um so ca12 2021, 608, west olympia avenue for the certificate of appropriateness. um It is the attached application. Not attached contains information provided by the applicant regarding the proposed installation of a six-foot white privacy fence on the property at 608, west olympia, 608 west olympia is listed on the florida master site file.

D

This structure was constructed in a frame vernacular style in circa 1950 as a single-family, residence and city staff approved the certificate of appropriateness, as the proposed fencing will have no adverse impact on the architectural or historic character of the structure or district.

D

For ca, 13 2021, 301 gil street certificate of appropriateness, so this is also information. Only the applicant provided this applied regarding the proposed installation of a forfeit fence around the backyard to secure the pool on the property at 302 gil street 302 gil street is listed on the florida master site file. This structure was constructed in a ranch style in circa 1952 as a single family, residence and city staff approved the certificate of appropriateness, as the proposed fencing will have no adverse impact on the architectural or historic character of the structure or district.

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C

Okay, thank you unfinished business.

D

Okay, there is nothing for unfinished.

C

And then staff comment.

D

Yes, staff comments, so this is just a quick update on the um historic markers so for fisherman's village we had the verbiage, proof red for all. Seven uh plaques and staff is working on getting the final draft together and will be sent out to fisherman's village, so they can start production and for the tribute plaques, the family did approve the verbiage for the two plaques and currently city staff is working on figuring out where the plaques would best fit.

D

And after that we will plan on taking it to city council as a reminder and to get the appropriation of funds and all of that.

C

Okay, can I suggest that at our next meeting we can actually make sure that everybody here at least sees of course what these look like I mean you can go online and find it, but I think it'd be nice. Of course,.

D

We just presented.

C

All the plaques at one time, mm-hmm.

D

So for both fisherman's village and tribute okay, um right.

C

Now they were designed kind of as a family look.

D

Okay, yeah, we can do that. We'll have an example of what um the final product could look like as they're still not uh produced yet, but we'll um show you the photos and what the verbiage is.

C

And then also if we can have sort of a timeline of when they might be complete, because I know there was conversation about.

D

Having ceremonies.

C

D

The installation.

C

You know one at fisherman's village and then for the other two that are the city's responsible for you know, placing.

D

Yes, um I'm sure that by the next meeting we'll have all of that information ready like I said we are getting the final verbiage for the fisherman's village approved and the location for the tribute plaque. So once that's done, we should have an idea of how long it will take for it to be produced installed and have that event.

C

And then just the last item too, because I'm sure you recall there's that collier bridge.

D

Yes, thing that has to be.

C

Installed as part of that, too,.

D

Yeah we're also working on that um where uh we got in contact, I forget her name, I believe it's jennifer she's working with us to create um create sort of like a story to um let guests and residents know of all the bridges and where we're going to put this plaque. Okay, yes,.

C

Well, anyway, so this will be a sort of our contribution to the centennial. We finally have.

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C

Know something concrete, so I think it's I think it's terrific and also aren't you supposed to isn't the city supposed to rename part of the harbor walk. That's part.

D

Of it too right so we're trying to get everything done, so we can do it all in conjunction with each other yeah. Okay,.

C

Terrific any questions for fabiano about the plaques.

D

No joan would you like to. We also have another staff comment that isn't in the agenda that we'd like to announce.

H

Good morning for the record, joan lebeau urban design director, the city is applying for a 500 000 grant for the ac freeman house. um It will be going in on june 1st. It was brought to city council several weeks ago for their approval to go ahead and submit so we'll keep you posted on whether or not we receive the award for the grant and I'm looking forward to doing some major work on the on the restoration of the facility.

H

Yeah, that's exciting. It is very exciting, so we're we've got our fingers crossed. We've been working on it for over a month and putting it together. As I said, it'll be due june 1st and we'll keep you updated as we move forward.

C

And for those of you who live in district 1, our civic association submitted a letter of endorsement for the project, so.

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Sure um this grant app, who is the grant application too or from the city, the city, the city? The city, would be providing the 500 000.

H

The match is 500 000, which we've already is um the the overall project. At this point, we have estimated at 1.1 million, so we match it one to one: it's a required match, so we.

A

But who is the grant from.

H

uh The florida department of historic host fdf.

D

Fdo, it's from the florida department.

H

Department of historical offices- okay, thank you.

C

That's uh joan.

H

What's the turnaround time on that, when is it a year six months it's a year.

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H

Funding will be available in 2022., okay, and I think I believe we can begin, which is perfect for the timing. Right now, the city has um awarded at the last city council meeting. We awarded the design bid to uh parker mudgett smith and they are going to do the design for us. It will take approximately 10 months for them to complete that, so it should dovetail nicely if we were to receive the grant.

H

We'd have a two-month time where we could get everything ready and then actually start working on the grant and move right into that. So we're very excited. We don't usually get um opportunities like that, so we're looking forward and just have our fingers crossed for this one.

A

And excuse me another question: what all is will be done with this grant for the house.

H

uh It's a major renovation, so we're going to be doing new roof work, new siting, um ada, accessible to the back door. We put in the ada ramp in 2019.

H

The door is not wide enough to meet ada accessibility, so we will enlarge that one door on that on the house, not the front, just the back um woodwork inside from a leak that happened. We had some repairs to be done. There was some issues with the roof. The leak happened and it came down the walls so we've we have to replace some woodwork and and repair the floors and things of that nature.

A

Generally, following the guidelines from the.

H

Yes uh and parker, mudgett smith is aware of that. um They do have somebody on their staff. The reason they were awarded it is they have somebody who is familiar with the applications and the requirements of the um the state for historic restoration.

A

And materials use that sort of thing.

H

Correct it will all be um vetted through the the grant.

A

Do you folks have a copy of that uh require those requirements from.

H

um I we can bring one to the next meeting. Yes well.

A

I have something that's right. Oh.

H

Okay, yes, we have them as well.

B

I have a question backing up to the plaques. The city is going to pay for these. Do we have a well.

D

For fisherman's village, that's fisherman's.

C

Yeah for the tribute.

D

Plaques, I'm pretty sure there was an agreement there, like with the family.

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D

The family, so it has.

B

To be done, yeah, just from our point of view, we don't have to do anything.

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B

So far we don't have to come up with any funds from the historical.

C

No, the city is required to.

D

Settle through city council yeah, that's why we're going to bring it up to city council once everything is finalized, so that they know how much it will cost and all of that? Okay, just don't want any surprises. Of course, any other questions.

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C

Okay, all right all right uh time, for you know any other board comments before I ask for citizens comments.

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B

A question and I missed the meeting where the house was in question that garrett kaiser was part of. I know we went we spent months and months and months. I know we just can't talk about it outside of here. I would have asked you, but, like I just through hearsay, I heard the city was like yeah tear it down. Why are we even bothering me? No, I mean.

A

I got turned out. I just want to hear someone.

B

Else's was that really true, then, why are we all sitting? I've been sitting here for almost eight years, like.

C

No and joan can correct me, but I think the city's position was obviously they support preservation. The request was to for a loan to relocate the structure city decided they really needed a policy mm-hmm. You know you couldn't just.

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C

This in a vacuum- so that's what the city is working on now. Yes,.

B

Moving forward so moving forward.

C

Yeah because otherwise we had nothing right, I mean, and we would want a policy too, because.

B

I just know we spent a lot of time and effort, many months discussing that, and I heard it was kind of just like yeah. I don't know so. I was just kind of surprised.

C

I wouldn't describe the attitude.

A

As that, okay, okay, definitely not, and.

H

Again for the record john lebo urban.

B

That's how it was directed and.

H

Unfortunately, that's how it's going to look, um but the city of course wants to preserve whatever we have left in the city to to move forward um that particular home, we did work with several people trying to get the uh money allocated.

H

You know just talking to them, but we can't do it and that that was the rough part we we reached out to several people and at the time the timing just wasn't right.

B

It's really that's all you can do is try to delay and try to find somebody and then at some point it's their property. They can correct and.

H

The reason that the demolition came with, that is because we didn't feel it was right to lead him for another six months or whatever. It would take to move that application along and.

B

I know the owners really tried too so.

H

They tried it was very hard he he really did he really tried to help. So I just.

B

Want to be able to speak intelligently on the.

H

Subjects people are asking yeah. If there's any way we can. We would um so so.

B

It will be demolished, that's where it landed.

H

Yes, okay, I didn't.

B

Know yeah all right. Thank you for your comments. I appreciate it.

C

Okay, any other board comments. Brad.

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C

No, no kelly, no beth! No! Thank you! Okay! um I'm assuming! We have no citizens comments, because those are the alternates, unless you guys have something you'd like to share at this time, quickest meeting ever okay, sorry about that, but they get better. So you just hang in there. Okay! uh So do I have a motion for adjourn so moved. This is brad move.

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C

All in favor, aye, aye, okay, see you next month.

B

B

Joking, no I'm not in favor.

G

Of happy journaling.

B

That we didn't have anything to vote on for a while.

B

I was almost expecting it to be just.

G

Combined because there was nothing to vote on, we really.