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Utility Advisory Board 6-28-2021
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E
Here,
thank
you
dennis
had
told
us
last
week
that
he
was
going
to
be
off
this
week
for
a
vacation,
so
he's
got
all
the
right
reasons
for
it
and
for
our
newer
members
mike
was
like
doherty
was
not
here
last
week.
I
could
just
step
down
as
being
the
vice
chair,
and
I
believe
that
was
what
three
years.
F
E
E
D
D
E
B
H
H
B
H
H
E
A
B
A
A
As
you
know,
the
first
page
gives
you
a
summary,
and
in
this
page
we
show
you
our
year-to-date
estimated
versus
our
year-to-date
actual,
and
the
thing
to
note
here
is
the
year-to-date
estimated.
Is
the
original
estimates
so
on
some
on
some
next
slides
we're
going
to
show
you
our
mid-year
projections
for
revenue,
and
so
they
won't
quite
tie.
But
that's
because
we're
using
original
here,
so
you
can
see
that
we're
for
charges
for
services
we're
at
105
percent
miscellaneous
revenue
145.
A
A
B
A
A
The
annual
budget,
so
the
the
first
column,
is
original
budget.
The
second
column
is
our
projected
budget.
So
again
we
made
adjustments
for
the
revenue
now
that
we're
a
certain
amount
per
through
the
year
and
estimate
through
the
rest
of
the
year
and
the
biggest
change
there
is.
As
you
recall,
in
january,
we
did
the
rate
increase
of
3.75.
A
Our
original
budget
did
not
reflect
that
because
we
hadn't
had
the
information
from
the
consultants
at
that
time
and
we
weren't
sure
what
would
be
approved
also
by
council,
so
we
didn't
have
that
until
january.
So
that's
the
biggest
reason
for
some
of
the
increase
that
you
see
in
water
and
wastewater.
A
Again,
year-to-date
budget
projection
is
again.
This
is
100
for
water
and
sewer
billings,
I'm
sorry
that
must
be
going
off
our
projection
versus
our
original.
Normally
we
have
that
off
the
original,
so
I
will
get
that
corrected
for
the
next
time,
but
year-to-date
water
billings
through
may
of
2021,
is
still
slightly
less
than
what
we
were
at
for
may
of
fiscal
year
and
again,
water
can
be
volatile
based
on
various
factors
such
as
the
rain
that
we're
getting
in
any
given
year.
A
A
A
Here
is
the
chart
where
we
just
show
revenues
versus
expenditures,
and
we
show
last
year
and
again
we
were
finishing
up
last
year
with
the
ro
project
which
had
the
transfers
in
between.
While
we
were
waiting
for
revenues
to
come
in
from
the
grants.
So
therefore,
that's
why
it
looks
a
little
funny
when
you
compare
to
last
year,
but
we
are
doing
very
well
this
year
so
far
year
to
date,.
A
Here's
our
graph
of
just
the
water
revenues
again
water
revenues
basically
reflect
how
we're
doing
overall
in
the
fund,
because
it
is
the
biggest
source.
So
you
can
see
our
year-to-date
budget
compared
to
year-to-date
actual,
and
this
is
original
budget.
So
that's
why
you
see
the
difference
on
this
one.
A
This
one
is
the
year-to-date
numbers
so
again
in
the
revised
projection,
you're
going
to
see
that
everything
kind
of
looks
oh
we're
right
at
100.
That's
because
we
did
our
projections
right
after
the
end
of
month,
the
month
of
may
so.
Therefore,
we
were
able
to
update
this
for
you,
so
we're
right
right
there,
but
next
month
you
know
how
it
is.
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E
A
E
Well,
I
guess
now
we
can
go
on
to
that
unfinished
business.
Thank
you
bill.
In
the
minutes.
From
last
meeting,
mr
sivero
had
requested
staff
to
follow
the
county
with
the
county
and
return
to
the
to
the
board,
with
the
feedback
regarding
the
septic
and
sewer
project.
How
supportive
the
county
commission
would
be,
and
I
believe,
mr
adams,
that
you
would
agree
to
do
so,
were
you
able
to.
I
Steve
adams
utilities-
I
did
speak
with
brandon
moody
brandon
mooney-
is
the
water
quality
expert
for
charlotte
county
now,
they've
used
brian
to
kind
of
take
the
lead
on
many
water
quality
issues
across
the
board
at
charlotte
county
he's
very
knowledgeable
and
helpful.
So
I've
been
talking
to
him,
but
not
specifically,
about
septic
to
sewer,
but
about
other
water
quality
challenges
that
the
county
is
looking
at
and
we've
exchanged
emails
so
that
we
can
update
each
other
as
necessary.
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B
C
I
C
I
I
E
C
So
so
I
can.
I
can
help
to
illuminate
the
issue
that
you
use
the
pro.
The
problem
isn't
so
much
that
it's
in
our
service
district
and
the
county
does
have
a
mandatory
connection
requirements.
So
if
the
city
was
to
extend
sewer
and
say
areas
like
the
pocket
which
is
charlotte
park,
it
could
be
required
that
the
property
owners
in
there
connect
up
the
question
then
becomes
how
do
they
pay
for
that?
C
Now
in
the
in
the
counties
with
ccu,
they
have
payment
plans,
but
they
can
also
do
assessment
districts
like
they
did
in
charlotte
harbor
many
years
ago,
and
so
that
is
something
that's
extra
territorial
to
the
city.
The
city
can't
give
them
the
option
of
a
multi-year
payback
without
taking
on
substantial
risk.
So
the
discussion
that
had
occurred
was
to
ask
the
county
to
set
up
a
special
taxing
district
and
assess
those
properties
to
repay
the
city
for
the
line,
extensions
and
that's
a
political
decision
that
the
county
commission
has
to
make.
A
And
simeone
again
for
finance
so
currently
because
it
is
outside
the
city
limits
in
the
past,
the
county
has
had
to
create
that
district
for
us
and
also
do
the
assessment
and
then
send
the
assessments
to
the
city.
So
again,
we're
looking
at
kind
of
following
what
the
county
has
been
doing
for
their
septic
to
sewer
projects
when
they
create
these
districts
and
doing
a
20-year
payment.
I
think
the
only
difference
the
city
was
considering
and
would
still
consider
is
that
we
would
also
assess
the
undeveloped
properties
right
up
front
versus.
A
H
Follow
chuck
county's
follow-up,
it
was
about
a
year
ago,
august
or
september,
the
actually,
the
two
city
managers
went
up
and
briefed
the
county
on
the
project
and
at
the
time
the
county
was
supportive
of
us
moving
forward.
So
we
continue
to
stay
into
the
county
man.
The
city
manager
stays
in
touch
with
them.
H
A
J
All
right,
good
morning,
everyone
laura
bomberger
with
corolla
engineers,
as
mentioned
I'm
here,
to
discuss
the
lower
shell,
creek
minimum
flows
and
levels
or
mfl
that's
being
proposed
by
swift
mud,
the
water
management
district
and,
specifically,
how
that
would
impact
the
city's
water
supply
resources.
Can
everyone
hear
me
all
right?
Yes,.
J
J
J
So
one
of
the
questions
that
often
comes
up
is
what
is
significant
harm
or
how
is
it
defined
so
the
florida
legislature
when
they
enacted
the
mfl
legislation,
they
did
not
define
the
term
significant
harm.
However,
the
district
has
developed
criteria
for
what
they
assume
is
significant
harm
to
the
various
types
of
water
resources.
J
So
they've
been,
as
I
mentioned,
setting
these
for
a
number
of
years
so
for
lower
shell
creek,
that's
the
creek
down
below
the
dam,
which
is
you
know,
hendrickson
dam
is
the
city's
water
reservoir.
The
district
developed
a
proposed
mfl
for
lower
shell
creek,
and
it
was
based
on
flow
related
changes
to
the
habitat
downstream
and
they
looked
at
various
salinities.
J
So
there
was
eight
fish
and
invertebrates
specifically
that
they
looked
at
and
evaluated
what
the
suitable
habitat
was
for.
Each
of
those
species
in
the
different
salinity
levels
and
the
mfl
was
set
to
maintain
85
percent
of
the
habitat
at
the
two
parts
per
thousand
or
less
salinity
level.
So
salinity
is
the
amount
of
salt
in
the
water,
and
you
know,
as
the
tide
comes
in
and
out
and
depending
on
how
much
water
is
going
over
the
dam.
J
So
here
is
an
overall
history,
our
timeline
on
the
mfl
process,
so
the
district
started
looking
at
this
over
10
years
ago,
back
in
the
late
2000s
and
in
2010
they
issued
a
report.
The
first
draft
of
the
mfl
for
both
shell
creek
and
peace
river,
the
peace
river
ended
up.
Mfl
ended
up
being
adopted
at
that
time
because
they
were
essentially
already
meeting
the
mfl.
J
It
was
not
impacting
anyone's
water
resources
in
terms
of
water
supply,
but
the
shell
creek
mfl
was
postponed
because
at
the
time
they
identified
that
the
city
would
need
a
recovery
strategy
or
the
district
would
need
a
recovery
strategy
in
order
to
meet
the
mfl,
while
also
maintaining
the
city's
water
supply
needs.
So
over
the
last
10
years
the
district
has
been
collecting
additional
information
and
data.
J
J
So
some
of
the
improvements
made
to
the
district's
model
that
they
use
to
evaluate
the
water
supply
we're
adding
the
ro
facility
because
it
came
online
and
provides
an
additional
resource
for
the
city
as
well
as
the
construction
of
the
interconnect
with
the
peace
river
authority
provides
some
reliability
for
the
city
to
receive
water
and
also
for
the
city
to
supply
water
to
the
authority.
When
needed,
we
updated
the
monthly
peaking
factors.
You
know
how
the
city's
demand
varies
throughout
the
month,
because
they've
been
using
some
older,
peaking
factors
and,
as
you
know,
utilities
grow.
J
J
So
this
chart
is
also
in
the
report.
It's
essentially
the
same
information
a
little
bit
more
detailed,
so
it
basically
goes
down
from
starting
in
the
upper
left.
As
I
mentioned
in
2010,
the
first
mfl
was
drafted
stepping
down
in
july.
The
district
adopts
the
peace
river
mfl,
but
lower
shell
creek
was
postponed
in
2015
the
district
re-evaluated,
the
lower
peace
river
mfl.
It's
required
that
they
evaluate
five
years
after
an
mfl
is
set,
they
evaluate
to
see
if
it's
being
met
and
if
any
changes
are
warranted.
J
J
Late
last
year,
the
district
made
some
changes
to
the
mfl
based
on
our
feedback,
and
essentially
they
were
able
to
adjust
the
mfl
to
still
maintain
the
85
percent
habitat
maintain
of
that
habitat
without
a
recovery
strategy.
So
that
was
a
big
shift,
because
previously
the
recovery
strategy
was
potentially
to
pump
water
from
the
reservoir
around
the
dam
downstream.
J
So
a
brief
definition
of
recovery
and
prevention
strategies,
so
a
recovery
strategy
is
implemented
if
an
mfl
is
currently
not
being
met
or
would
not
be
met.
When
it's
adopted,
a
prevention
strategy
is
implemented
if
the
mfl
is
projected
to
not
be
met
in
the
next
20
years,
so
as
demands
increase,
water
demands,
increase
and
as
more
water
would
need
to
be
taken.
J
Okay,
so
that's
a
brief
overview
of
mfl's
of
the
history
and
timeline.
I
wanted
to
briefly
touch
on
the
city's
water
supply
for
anyone.
That's
new,
so
the
shell
creek
water
treatment
plant
is
the
original
water
plant
that
withdraws
water
from
the
shell
creek
reservoir,
and
your
permit
allows
8.088
mgd
annual
average
from
that
reservoir.
J
As
mentioned
earlier,
the
reverse
osmosis
facility
was
brought
online
approximately
one
year
ago
in
2020
it
can
treat
up
to
four
mgd,
but
we,
you
know,
if
only
one
train
is
running
at
a
time.
It's
you
know,
2
mgd
per
train,
so
it's
modular
in
nature,
so
it
really
needs
to
be
run
either
at
2mgd
or
4mgd
or
and
depending
on
how
you
know
how
long
it's
on
each
day
and
then
the
peace
river
pipeline
can
be
used
to
transfer
or
purchase
water
as
needed.
J
This
is
a
table
of
the
projected
population
and
water
demand
out
to
2040.,
so
your
water
demand
on
an
annual
average
basis
is
projected
to
go
up
by
about
one
mgd
to
6.59
mgd,
and
that
includes
any
losses
at
the
treatment
plant.
There
is
some
loss
at
the
surface
water
plant
in
the
treatment
process,
so
that
does
include
that
loss.
J
So,
for
example,
in
january
you
have
slightly
higher
demands,
whereas
in
april
and
november
those
are
your
highest
demand,
months,
typically
17
higher
in
april
and
20
percent
higher
in
november,
and
these
are
based
on
the
average
of
the
last
five
years
and
of
course,
in
the
summer,
when
it's
raining
and
some
of
the
seasonal
residents
go
home
in
august,
it's
actually
67
of
the
annual
average.
So
you
can
see
out
in
2040
the
the
highest
annual
average
demand
that
we
would
be
looking
at
would
is
7.92
mgd
for
a
monthly
average
in
november.
J
It's
a
block
based
calculation,
so
there's
three
blocks
and
those
blocks
in
general
correspond
to
how
much
flow
is
coming
into
shell
creek.
So
the
first
block
is
block
one
and
that's
the
lowest
flow
condition,
and
that's
when
there's
zero
flow
coming
in
and
sometimes
the
reservoir
is
actually
below
the
height
of
the
dam.
J
There's
no
outflow
going
over
the
dam
up
to
56
cfs,
that's
cubic
feet
per
second
and
that
correlates
to
36.2
mgd
and
within
block
one
that's
when
they
found
that
the
downstream
habitat
is
most
impacted
because
that's
when
they
have
higher
salinities
that
maybe
need
to
be
diluted
down,
so
that
the
salinity
is
not
too
high
from
the
incoming
tides.
So
there's
actually
four
different
periods
within
block
one
depending
on
the
month.
J
So
from
january
through
april,
for
example,
the
maximum
allowable
withdrawal
from
the
reservoir
is
4.22
mgd
in
the
month
of
may,
it's
3.63
and
then
the
lowest
or
the
most
restrictive
months
are
june
through
october.
If
you
happen
to
have
a
very
dry
summer,
which
is
not
usual,
but
if
there
was
a
very
dry
summer-
and
there
was
not
a
lot
of
rain-
they
still-
the
habitat
downstream
still
needs
to
get
some
fresh
water.
So
they
want
more
of
that
water
to
go
downstream
unless
being
taken
out
for
water
supply
and
then
blocks
block.
J
2
is
kind
of
the
medium
range
flow
and
block
3
is
the
high
range
flow
and
for
those
it's
the
same
for
all
months,
it's
a
percent
of
inflow,
so
in
block
2.
If
this
the
flow
coming
into
the
reservoir
is
between
56
and
137
cfs,
the
city
could
withdraw
23
percent
of
what's
coming
in
and
then
in
block
3.
J
So
these
are
the
numbers
that
the
district
really
modified,
initially
block.
One
was
also
a
percent
of
flow
and
in
some
cases
the
you
know
the
percent,
regardless
of
what
percent
it
is
if
the
flow
coming
in
is
zero,
any
percent
of
zero
is
zero,
so
there
will
be
periods
where
the
city
would
not
be
able
to
withdraw
any
water,
and
that
would
be
problematic.
J
Obviously,
so
they
went
to
this
approach
of
looking
at
what
if
we
had
a
maximum
amount
so
that
the
city
could
always
take
some
water
granted
is
not
going
to
meet
your
full
demand,
but
at
least
it
wouldn't
be
zero.
Could
they
maintain
that
85
significant
harm
threshold,
and
this
is
what
they
came
up
with?
J
B
J
Surface
water
blocks
are
green,
and
so
the
the
ro
plant
came
online
in
july.
It
was
not
exactly
2mgd
each
month,
especially
during
startup,
but
we
just
use
that
for
illustrative
purposes
to
kind
of
show
what
percentage
of
your
supply
would
be
from
the
ro
versus
from
the
reservoir
and
there's,
of
course,
no
restrictions
shown
here,
because
we're
assuming
in
this
scenario
that
there's
no
mfl
on
the
right.
J
We
have
the
2040
projection
of
6.59
mgd
annual
average,
and
you
can
see
that
if
we
assume
the
city
runs
their
ro
at
2mgd
all
the
time
just
to
keep
that
tds
down
the
surface,
water
would
range
from
2.4
up
to
about
5.9
mgd,
depending
on
the
demand
each
month.
So
the
city
would
really
have
flexibility,
of
course,
to
increase
the
rf.
If
so,
you
know
they
sold
shoes
or
increase
the
the
surface
water.
If
they
needed
to
take
the
ro
offline,
there
would
be,
you
know,
no
limitations.
J
J
So
if
we're
in
a
block
one
flow
condition
any
time
in
the
year.
You
know
that
usually
does
not
occur
during
the
summer,
but
if
it
did,
this
would
be
how
the
city
could
have
met
its
monthly
average
demands
with
the
mfl
in
place.
So
we
basically
set
our
model
when
we
developed
a
model
to
analyze
this,
to
run
the
ro
at
2mgd
as
a
baseline,
but
then
increase
the
ro
if
necessary,
to
to
allow
the
mfl
to
also
be
met.
J
J
J
So
in
2020,
your
highest
demand
day
of
water
sent
to
your
customers
was
8.05
mgd.
So
we
wanted
to
see
you
know
if
that
maximum
day
demand
were
to
occur
in
any
month
of
the
year
now,
typically
it's
in
april
or
november.
But
if
it
happened
to
occur
in
july,
for
example,
how
could
the
city
meet
a
demand
that
high?
J
So
we
assumed
for
this
analysis
on
a
max
day
that
the
city
would
increase
the
ro
to
its
full
capacity
of
4
mgd
and
make
up
the
difference
with
surface
water
and
green,
but
then
you
would
still
fall
short
some
months
and
in
those
months,
you'd
need
to
purchase
water
from
the
peace
river
authority,
approximately
one
mgd,
especially
if
it's
during
the
summer,
as
shown
and
then
even
out
into
october,
because
that's
the
month.
Those
are
the
months
where
the
restricted
the
restriction
is
3.1
mgd
from
the
surface
water.
J
J
So
in
summary,
for
2020,
if
the
mfl
would
have
been
in
place
last
year,
you
for
most
of
the
time
would
have
been
able
to
meet
your
own
water
supply
needs.
But
there
would
have
been
some
days
that
you'd
have
to
purchase
up
to
one
mgd
from
the
authority
to
meet
those
peaks,
and
then
you
could
sell
the
water
back
to
them
on
a
lower
demand
day
or
transfer
the
water
back
to
them.
J
J
We
assumed
for
the
future
that
the
city
could
run
its
ro
facility
closer
to
its
full
capacity,
3.5
mgd
on
average
for
a
month.
So
that
means
that
you
could
have
one
train
down.
You
know
a
few
days
in
order
to
for
maintenance,
but
we
worked
with
utility
staff
and
brian
to
determine
that
3.5
mgd
in
a
max
month
condition
would
be
feasible,
so
you'll
see
there's
an
extra
color
on
this
chart.
It's
the
purple
at
the
bottom,
that's
basically
how
much
excess
there
is
that
you
could
take
that.
J
You
didn't
need
essentially
from
the
creek
based
on
the
mfl
and
you'll,
see
for
peace
river
on
a
monthly
average
basis.
During
october,
you
would
be
projected
to
need
about
0.2
mgd,
that's
200,
000
gallons,
every
day,
of
course,
that
would
fluctuate
and
then
in
blocks
two
and
three
again
no
restrictions
in
the
future.
J
So,
looking
at
the
maximum
day
demands
in
2040,
the
2040
projected
demand
is
the
annual
average
of
6.59
times
the
1.5
peaking
factor.
That's
been
the
city's
kind
of
historical
maximum
day
peaking
factor.
So
the
maximum
day
demand
projected
in
2040
is
9.9
mgd,
it's
almost
10..
So
in
this
case
we
assume
again
the
ro
can
run
at
its
full
capacity
on
that
particular
day.
You'll
see
here
the
mfl,
restricted,
surface
water
allowances
and
then
the
red
is
what
you
would
need
to
purchase
on
a
maximum
day
from
peace
river.
J
J
For
max
day
and
2040,
I
show
here
kind
of
two
scenarios.
You
could
run
your
ro
at
2,
mgd
and
then
you'd
need
just
about
8
mgd
of
surface
water
on
that
maximum
day
or
you
could
run
your
ro
at
4
mgd
and
you
would
need
6
mgd
of
surface
water
on
a
maximum
day.
As
you
may
know,
the
city
is
also
looking
looking
at
rehabilitating
their
filters
at
the
surface
water
treatment
plants.
So
one
of
the
things
that
they're
considering
is
what?
What
capacity
do
we
really
need
at
the
surface
water
facility?
J
Permit
it
at
a
lower
capacity,
since
you
now
have
ro
and
therefore
not
have
to
construct
the
same
capacity
of
filters.
So
this
is
kind
of
the
two
options
for
future
long-term
projected
max
day
demands,
and
then
the
last
segment
of
the
presentation
is
the
daily
implementation
of
the
mfl.
So
the
mfl
is
a
daily
requirement
and
there
is
a
equation
that
the
city
would
need
to
use
to
determine
what
the
inflow
is,
because
that
second
column
there.
The
inflow
is
really
what
dictates
how
much
the
city
could
take.
J
So
the
the
amount
that
the
city
could
take
depends
on
what
the
inflow
was
the
day
before,
so
that
calculation
is
looking
at
the
change
in
reservoir
volume.
So
the
volume
today
minus
the
volume
yesterday
and
that
volume
is
estimated
based
on
the
height
of
the
water
over
the
dam
plus
the
outflow,
which
is
measured
by
a
gauge
downstream.
J
J
We
assumed
again
that
the
ro
facility
would
operate
at
2mgd
as
a
baseline
and
increase
to
4
on
a
daily
basis
or
for
the
month.
If
needed,
the
city
would
have
had
to
purchase
0.21
mgd
from
the
authority
on
april
4th
of
last
year.
One
day
they
would
have
not
been
able
to
meet
the
full
demand.
The
actual
demand
that
occurred
that
day.
J
And
then
we
also
looked
at
the
2040
daily
implementation
analysis,
so
we
can't
necessarily
predict
what
the
hydrologic
conditions
will
be
in
2040
exactly
so.
We
use
the
2020
stream
flows,
because
that
year
was
a
little
drier
in
the
spring,
so
we
felt
like
it
was
conservative
and
it
was
actually
a
little
wetter
in
the
fall,
so
the
good
mix
of
wet
and
dry,
approximately
kind
of
average
overall.
J
So
we
used
this
20
20
flows
and
again
used
2mgd
for
the
ro
and
increased
it
to
4
when
needed
and
then
purchased
from
peace
river.
What
would
be
needed
beyond
that?
So,
as
you
can
see,
those
red
points
are
where
the
city
would
have
had
to
purchase
from
or
would
need
to
purchase
from
the
authority
and
it
occurred
during
four
months
and
overall,
it
was
about
1.2
percent
of
the
water
supply.
J
Gallons
so,
overall
conclusions
of
the
analysis
in
our
report,
the
district
worked
with
the
city
to
develop
an
mfl
for
shell
creek
that
meets
the
environmental,
restoration
and
protection
intent,
but
also
allows
the
city
to
meet
their
water
supply
needs.
The
mfl
itself
is
projected
to
be
met.
99.6
percent
of
the
time
which
the
district
has
essentially
rounded
up
to
100
percent
from
their
perspective
for
the
next
20
years,
the
projected
water
supply
reliability
using
just
the
ro
and
the
reservoir.
Just
the
city's
sources
is
98.8
percent.
J
D
Looking
looking
out
to
the
sources
that
we
need
to
exchange,
you
mentioned
a
couple
of
times,
was
adequate
pipeline
capacity
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
Have
studies
similar
to
the
one
that
you
report
here
been
done
by
these
other
entities
that
surround
us
on
and
on
who,
with
whom
we
are
interdependent,
so
that
across
the
entire
system
in
southwest
florida
or,
however,
larger
region
we
have
to
look
at?
Is
there
now
currently
adequate
supply
projected
into
2040.
J
So
the
the
water
supply
authority,
the
peace,
river,
minnesota,
regional
water
supply
authority
is
responsible
for
doing
that
and
they
did
a
master
plan
last
year.
So
they
looked
at
their
member
governments,
which
the
city
is
not
a
member
government,
the
city
of
punta
gorda.
But
you
do
have
that
interconnect
agreement.
So
that's
why
we
recommend
that
it
would
be
amended
to
basically
ensure
that
they
could
provide
up
to
this
amount
as
needed
and
that
they
included
that
demand
on
their
own
maximum
day.
Demand
analysis,
but.
J
I
couldn't
say
for
sure
on
a
maximum
day,
if
every
member
needed
their
maximum
amount
on
the
same
day,
I
know
that
they
could
meet
their
own
con,
their
their
contractual
obligations
with
their
own
members,
but
in
terms
of
the
city
as
a
emergency
rotational
supply,
I'm
not
sure
of
exactly
how
it's
defined,
I'm
not
sure
if
they've
accounted
for
that
as
well
within
that
maximum
day
supply.
I
don't
know
if
anyone,
but
I
can
definitely
check
on
that
and
report
back.
D
K
J
E
C
These
and
these
may
be
questions
for
for
for
chuck-
I'm
sorry
laura,
because
only
because
I
I
have
represented
the
cities
in
lee
county
and
the
mfl
battles
they've
had
on
the
clusahachi.
So
every
time
I
hear
there's
a
new
one.
I
get
nervous
because
there's
it's
supposed
to
be
scientific,
but
there's
also
competing
interests.
Do
do
we
know
is,
is
the
only
other
real
stakeholder
in
this?
The
essentially
the
environment
are
we
are
we
competing
with
ag
or
anyone
else
that
are
trying
to
tweak
the
rules
in
their
favor.
B
J
C
Well,
I
recall
that
the
the
district
has
been
doing
what
they
call
that
that
their
farms
program
for
many
years
to
get
the
ag
users
to
and
the
city
has
been
in
some
litigation
over.
That
too,
is
is,
do
those
do
the
expansion
of
those
surface
water
resources
for
agriculture
in
the
watershed
pose
a
risk
to
the
mfl
for
the
city?
C
J
C
C
What
it
looks
like
to
me
is
either
we
continue
to
expand
ro,
which
looks
like
it
was
a
good
investment
to
first
go
around
and
it
continues
to
be
a
good
investment
or
we
look
at
if
it's
more
cost
effective
to
possibly
change
our
relationship
with
the
regional
water
authority
and
then
or
do
both.
But
if
there's
a
real
possibility,
the
district
could
change
the
rules
on
us
a
few
years
and
put
a
recovery
plan
in,
for
I
don't
know
what
they're
basing
it
off.
C
J
C
And
they're
still
in
the
process
of
finding
it
out,
but
in
that
situation
you've
got
mfl's
on
the
east
coast,
plus
the
lake
plus
the
agricultural
users,
so
everybody's
pushing
and
as
you
I
mean
as
you've
already
seen,
the
districts
changed
its
plan
for
shell
creek
to
accommodate
the
city.
I
that's
why
I
get
nervous
about
other
players
who's
involved
and
how
could
they
could
they
hurt
us,
but
that's
the
only
questions
I
had.
E
J
Correct
my
understanding
is
that
the
city
and
the
authority
can
exchange
water
as
needed
and
they
keep
a
monthly
tally
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
year,
if
it's
more
than
60
million
gallons
either
way,
then
there's
a
rate
in
the
contract.
But
as
long
as
the
the
net
at
the
end
of
the
year
is
less
than
60
million
gallons
total,
then
they
consider
it
a
wash.
E
F
J
F
K
C
C
Provided
that
provided
we
because
the
big
concern
is-
and
I
would,
I
would
think
that
we
were
required
to
have
the
interconnect
as
a
condition
of
the
rl
plant.
If
I
recall,
because
I
know
that
pretty
much
dep
is
requiring
interconnects
for
other
other
utilities
in
the
area,
anyone
just
to
have
that
reserve
capacity.
D
C
J
J
You
know
it
was
about
what
one
mgd
that
you
maybe
would
have
need
to
purchase
last
year
on
a
max
day,
so
I
mean
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
have
a
really
high
max
day
demand,
but
you
also
have
water
storage
tanks
that
help
to
offset
some
of
that
as
well.
So
I
think,
if
you
have
some
time
to
work
on
that
with
the
authority.
E
E
A
So
good
morning,
chris
and
simeone
for
the
record,
so
we're
going
to
go
over
the
utilities,
construction
budget
and
the
operating
maintenance
and
repair
fund
budget
as
well-
and
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
data
we
provide
and
so
we'll
go
over
in
a
high
level.
But
if
you
have
any
questions
on
some
of
the
details,
just
please
let
me
know
and
we'll
stop
and
go
over
those
types
of
items.
A
So
the
first
thing
that
drives
a
lot
of
what
is
happening
in
our
operating
fund
is
our
construction
fund.
So
that's
why
we're
going
to
go
over
this
one.
First
and
we've
put
the
plan
together
based
on
the
proposed
projects
by
the
divisions,
and
we
always
try
to
identify
a
funding
source
for
these
projects.
Although
some
of
them
are
not
set
in
stone
as
again,
they
require
us
to
go
out
to
for
find
like
say
for
financing
or
grants.
A
So
again,
this
is
the
the
high
level
detail.
You
can
see
that
the
fund
is
balanced
based
on
the
use
of
financing
or
grants,
especially
for
the
subject
to
sewer
projects,
the
wastewater
treatment,
plant
expansion
and
then
the
water
treatment,
filtration
project
and
again,
as
you
heard
from
mrs
bonberger,
that
that
project
will
be
dependent
upon
the
mfls,
we'll
be
looking
at
alternatives
depending
on
what
happens
with
that
particular
item.
C
I
have
a
quick
question,
mr
chairman,
if
you
don't
mind
yeah
only
because
it
may
be
relevant
later
on
the
american
rescue
plan
act.
I
know
this
the
city's
not
getting
a
ton
of
money
out
of
that,
but
I
know
we
can
use
it
for
water
and
sewer.
Has
the
city
council
thought
about
maybe
allocating
some
of
that
to
any
of
these
issues.
C
A
Yep
so,
but
yes,
we
will
be
looking
at
those
projects
again.
The
other
thing
we're
looking
at
right
now
too,
is
besides
the
amount
that
we're
getting
directly.
There
are
some
fundings
available
through
the
government
right
now
from
again
the
american
rescue
that
we
can
apply
for
as
well,
so
we're
we
just
sat
in
on
a
webinar
last
week
and
we're
going
to
look
at
what
projects
might
qualify
under
that.
A
A
A
A
Most
of
these
are
fairly
this
pretty
much
the
same
as
last
year,
but
I'm
going
to
point
out
a
few
of
them.
The
tank
coating
project,
the
has
gone
up
significantly
and
the
cost
for
the
tank
coatings,
and
we
do
two
of
the
tanks
approximately
every
five
years.
So
in
this
fiscal
year
that
530
000,
I
believe,
is
the
bpf
and
then
the
for
next
year
is
the
mpf.
A
And
then
for
the
treatment
plant
you've
seen
that
one
again,
these
estimates
are
still
the
same
at
this
time.
They
are
finishing
up
the
the
plans.
For
that
again,
our
consultant
will
work
on
trying
to
find
us
some
grant
funding,
even
if
it's
just
the
srf,
the
state
revolving
loan
fund,
which
is
considered
a
grant,
even
though
it's
that's
a
loan,
because
they're
subsidizing
the
interest
rate.
So
that's
why
we
show
it
in
our
plan
currently
as
financing,
but
using
the
state
revolving
loan
funds
at
a
lower
interest
rate.
A
They
did
add
the
master
pump
facility
upgrade
out
in
fiscal
year
2022,
so
that's
600,
000.,
the
henry
street
forced
maine
replacement
crossing
at
I-75.
So
during
this
year
we
had
the
riverside
drive
force.
Main
extension
project
come
on,
so
they
reduced
the
funding
for
that
project
at
this
time
and
are
paying
it
back
to
the
project
in
fiscal
year
2023.
So
the
project
can
get
started,
but
the
final
construction
probably
wouldn't
be
till
2023.
A
Now
we're
going
to
get
on
to
the
water
projects
so
the
first
one
hendricks
and
dam.
We
normally
program
25
000
every
other
year.
In
there
the
division
says
the
amount
they've
accumulated
so
far
will
get
us
through
the
next
five
years.
So
we've
only
got
the
90
000
currently
and
will
carry
over
any
unused
funds.
So
that's
why
you
don't
see
that
in
the
future
years,
but
it
will
go
once
we
use
up
those
funds,
we'll
have
to
go
back
to
the
25
000
every
other
year
to
continue
that
program.
A
Oh,
I'm
so
sorry
that
one
should
have
been
eliminated
from
this
this
that
one
was
combined
with
the
filtration
project.
So
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
catch
that
that
line
comes
off
and
is
included
already
with
the
fourth
one
down
the
evaluation,
rehabilitation,
filters,
scu
and
alum
tanks.
So
just
so,
we
don't
double
count
that
and
we'll
we'll
take
that
off
for
council.
A
So
that's
the
so
when
we
get
to
that,
that's
the
next
big
one
we
need
to
talk
about
is
that
project,
the
evaluation
and
rehabilitation
of
the
filters
we
currently
have
it
programmed
in
here.
The
first
part
of
the
money
was
the
evaluation
and
the
solid
contact
unit,
as
we
were
talking
about
in
fiscal
year.
2022
is
the
design
and
engineering
of
the
project
plus
the
amount
that
was
originally
scheduled
for
the
alum
tank,
which
was
800
000
in
2022
and
then
the
rest
of
the
construction
in
fiscal
year.
2023.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
So
going
into
the
operations
we
have
the
operating
revenues
and,
based
on
this
five
year
plan,
we
are
proposing
a
rate
increase
of
2
percent
for
next
year,
which
is
lower
than
what
the
consultants
suggested
they
had
suggested
3.75
in
every
year
and
the
what
we're
showing
here
in
this
pro
forma
is
two
percent
in
fiscal
year
2022
and
two
percent
in
fiscal
year.
2023
and
no
rate
increase
is
currently
scheduled
in
24
through
26.,
and
that
looks
based
on
our
current
projections
of
the
construction
projects
and
the
timing
of
the
financings.
A
A
We
estimated
a
0.5
percent
growth
in
using
averages
to
account
for
the
consumption
changes
due
to
rainfall,
rainfall
and
other
factors,
as
I
mentioned
before,
this
is
one
of
our
most
volatile
revenues
with
water
and
wastewater
25
and
26.
You
see
that
there's
additional
wastewater
revenues
for
the
septic
to
sewer
conversion
customers
that
would
be
for
the
area.
A
The
annual
costs
are
approximately
fifty
nine
thousand,
they
would
need
a
vehicle,
so
the
one-time
expense
would
be.
Twenty.
Eight
thousand
staff
does
recommend
this
position
and
we're
actually
asking
if
we
could
start
it
now.
Funds
are
available
in
the
current
budget
due
to
staff
turnover
and
we'd
like
to
get
that
position
on.
It's
really
needed
for
the
ami
work
as
well
as
shut
offs
turn-ons
things
like
that.
A
Other
personnel
assumptions
are
that
we
would
have
a
four
percent
merit
increase.
The
defined
benefit
pension
plan
is
flat
based
on
the
city-wide
total
defined
contribution.
Pension
plan
is
10
on
pensionable
wages.
That
one
is
a
change
from
prior
years.
Council
has
indicated
they
are
willing
to
do
a
10
percent
match
a
one
for
one
up
to
10
percent
versus
the
current
plan,
which
was
a
one
for
one
match
up
to
five
percent,
and
then
they
matched
fifty
percent
from
six
to
ten
percent.
A
So,
again,
that's
try
to
help
us
retain,
attract
and
retain
employees.
The
health
insurance
rates
came
in
and
it's
a
4.4
increase,
so
we
were
able
to
get
that
plugged
in
here
for
your
performa
workers.
Comp
insurance
is
currently
estimated
at
10,
and
just
so
you
know
all
those
other
percentages
stay
the
same
for
23
to
26,
except
health
insurance.
We
usually
budget
six
percent
as
an
estimate
in
our
pro
forma.
E
A
C
B
B
C
A
You
for
operating
again
they
were
per
departmental
request
and
again
they
all
tried
to
stay
within
the
three
percent
increase
overall
for
expenditures,
so
some
expenditures
may
have
stayed
flat
or
gone
down.
Other
expenditures
may
have
gone
up,
but
they
generally
tried
to
stay
within
the
three
percent
computer
overhead
is
per
the
I.t
budget
and
council
did
approve
their
budget
at
the
last
council
meeting.
A
A
A
A
F
A
A
So
for
capital
outlay,
the
division
or
the
all
of
the
divisions
try
to
stay
within
about
700
000.
That's
what
we
currently
aim
for
some
years,
it's
a
little
bit
more
some
years,
a
little
bit
less
and
again
for
the
plants,
it's
a
little
harder,
but
they
try
and
put
some
monies
in
there
for
any
type
of
pumps,
because
they
have
a
lot
of
pumps.
They
don't
know
which
pump
they
might
need
to
replace
at
any
given
time.
A
A
So
again,
continued
use
of
current
revenues
and
operating
reserves
to
fund
the
five-year
cip,
and
then
we
estimate
the
debt
service
on
the
wastewater
plant,
expansion
and
septic
to
sewer
projects
using
state
revolving
funds
for
the
water
treatment
plant
filtration
project.
We
currently
have
bank
financing.
That
was
a
project
that
would
not
have
qualified
for
srf.
A
However,
if
the
project
changes
that
may
we
may
be
able
to
use
srf
for
that
and
again,
we
assume
the
increased
requirement
for
srf
loan
reserves,
usually
one
year's
estimated
payments
and
they
ask
us
to
do
that
as
we're
drawing
down.
So
that's
why
you
see
it
in
increments
on
the
pro
forma,
it
wasn't
like
all
at
once.
A
And
again
the
reserve
assumptions
as
we
try
to
maintain
a
3.1
million
operating
reserve.
That's
in
our
current
policy.
It's
been
the
same
for
quite
a
few
years.
We
may
want
to
look
at
that
to
see
if
we
should
bring
it
up
a
little
bit
at
the
time
that
was
approximately
two
months
operating
reserves,
but
we
should
look
at
that
in
the
future
if
we
want
to
maybe
make
a
change,
but
currently
you
can
see
in
the
short
short
term
we're
meeting
that.
So
it's
not.
E
A
A
A
C
A
C
C
A
C
B
C
A
A
Again,
the
septic
to
sewer
project
is
dependent
on
estimated
grant
revenues
of
25
percent
20-year
assessments
on
all
lots
in
each
year
in
each
area.
New
billing
rec
billing
revenues
for
the
occupied
lots,
use
of
wastewater
impact
fees
and
debt
service
ratios
that
may
be
required
by
the
financing
entity.
A
A
I
guess
I
hope
we
would
have
them
in
the
next
few
months.
I'm
not
sure
when
that
will
come
back
and
then
continue
to
pursue
opportunities
with
charlotte
county
to
add
these
areas,
to
their
master
plan
for
subject
to
sewer
for
possible
road
and
drainage
funding
to
help
be
contributed
to
the
project,
and
that
is
all
I
have
so
do
you
have
any
other
questions
any.
A
B
A
B
A
It
is
based
on
the
city's
timing
of
their
five-year
capital
outlay
plan.
The
reason
we
can
reduce
it
a
little
bit
especially
up
front
is
that
not
all
our
projects
kind
of
take
off
at
the
time
that
they
are
budgeted
to
take
off
so
because
of
some
of
the
delays
that
we're
seeing
in
some
of
our
projects.
That's
why
we
can.
A
E
K
I'd
just
like
to
thank
both
chuck
and
brian.
They
gave
me
an
excellent
tour
of
the
ro
plant
and
very
interesting
to
see
what
was
going
on
there.
The
scada
system
was
amazing,
the
ro
plant
was
just
mind
blowing
and
then
the
expansion
that
can
happen
there.
Just
it's
nice
to
see
all
that
forward,
progress
thinking
on
the
plant-
and
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
well.
L
Haralden,
yes,
mr
adams
made
the
suggestion
about
inviting
brandon
mooney
from
the
county
at
some
point
and
it
kind
of
just
leveled
out
I
I
would
I
don't
know
if
we
have
to
make
a
motion.
I
would
just
like
to
make
a
request
that
you
know
it
doesn't
have
to
be
net
next
meeting
or
anything.
I
think
that's
an
excellent
suggestion
and
I'd
love
to
see
his
presentation.