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Historic Preservation Advisory Board 02-24-2022
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Morning,
mitchell
austin,
so
we
have
three
certificates
of
appropriateness
come
in
this
month.
They
were
all
they're,
all
three
information,
only
two
fences
and
a
roof.
The
first
one
is
ca01
22,
and
this
is
321
taylor
street.
The
applicant
proposed
to
install
a
four
foot
tall
white,
vinyl,
picket
style
fence
along
the
northern
property
line,
with
no
proposed
attachment
to
the
structure.
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This
structure
was
built
as
a
single
family
house
in
1914
and
listed
as
contributing
within
the
national
register.
District
is
located
within
the
city
center
zoning
district
and
has
been
occupied
by
various
commercial
businesses.
For
going
on
20
years
now,
staff
approved
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
as
the
vinyl
fence
will
have
no
adverse
impact
on
the
structure
or
character
of
the
district.
If
you
have
any
questions
or
concerns
on
that,
one
bar
none
next
certificate
of
appropriateness
is
ca.
Ca0222.
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This
is
80r108.
Excuse
me,
108
gill
street
and
the
applicant
was
proposing
to
install
a
four
foot
tall
black
aluminum,
picket
style
fence
along
the
property
line
at
gill
street.
The
fence
is
matching
an
existing
fence
and
will
complete
the
property
line
fencing
connecting
back
to
the
structure,
including
a
gated
entrance
at
the
the
front
walkway
to
the
front
porch
constructed
in
1900
as
a
single
family
house,
108
gill
street
is
listed
as
contributing
to
the
national
registry.
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So
one
thing
that
I
did
want
to
note
under
general
business,
the
mural
society
had
requested
an
update
to
update
the
board
regarding
the
local
black
history
mural.
However,
they're
not
ready
to
present
that
item
today,
they
requested
late
last
week
to
pull
that
so
so
it'll
be
continued.
It'll
be
continued
until
hopefully
march.
Okay,
she
wasn't
sure
there.
The
mural
is
on
a
school
board
property.
So
there's
a
lot
of
hoops
to
jump
through
on
that
end
before
they
can
get
to
our
part
of
the
process.
G
Actually,
I
think
it
does
need
to
go
on
this
board
I'll,
clarify
it
and
make
sure
that
it's
if
it
needs
to
go
on
this
board,
it
will
be
next
month,
but
that
a
member
of
this
board
has
to
be
appointed
to
right
right
because
I'm
an
automatic
right.
So
we'll
get
that
clarified
for
next
meeting.
I
apologize
for
the
the
error
in
the
packet.
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All
right,
so,
at
our
last
meeting
we
had
talked
about
you
know,
we've
gotten,
you
know
an
update
on
the
ac
freeman
house,
which
everybody
remembers,
is
a
major
renovation
of
a
national
registry
was
a
national
registry
building
which
we
hope
to
get
it
back
on
the
national
registry
and
mitchell's
told
me
that
they
are
pretty
close
to
being
able
to
are.
You
have
filed
the
application
and
it'll
be
considered
in
what
may.
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G
No,
so
the
the
the
grant
is
subject
to
the
legislative
process.
So
during
this
session,
the
legislature
and
their
budget
will
determine
how
much
money
they're
going
to
fund
for
that
for
various
programs
for
all
the
programs
of
the
state.
But
for
that
grant
program,
specifically
they'll
designate
an
amount
and
then,
if
the
governor
signs
the
budget,
that
will
be
good.
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G
Just
to
put
that
second
tier
of
funding
in
perspective
because
of
capacity
issues
with
the
city,
we're
still
have
not
spent
all
of
the
previous
one
percent
sales
tax
funds,
we're
working
on
our
virginia
avenue,
streetscape
project
that
was
part
of
that
initial
pot.
Our
previous
pot
of
winston
sales
tax
funds
so
yeah
it
does
take
a
while.
A
Okay,
so
the
intent
of
our
discussion
today
was
to
in
consultation
with
other
historic
organizations
in
the
city
talk
about
ways.
We
might
collaborate
to
help
raise
funds
for
the
project
and
the
reason
why
I
mean
typically,
I
would
not
want
to
see
this
group
be
a
fundraising
organization,
but
all
of
our
most
of
our
claim
to
being
a
historic
city
rests
on
the
buildings
that
we
have
that
are
on
that
national
registry,
and
this
is
one
of
the
main
ones.
It's
the
entry
to
the
city.
A
So
it's
really
important
to
how
we
continue
to
characterize
ourselves.
I
would
say
it's
core
to
the
brand
of
of
ponta
gorda,
so
we
had
all
agreed.
It
would
be
good
to
invite
representatives
from
historic
organizations
to
come
and
talk
with
us
and
see
if
there
were
any
ideas
they
might
have,
and
I'm
assuming
the
people
who
are
here
today
are
with
historic
organizations
so
mitchell.
Can
I
ask
them
to
introduce
themselves?
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G
And
for
the
record,
you,
you
need
to
go
to
the
to
the
podium
over
there
and
state
your
name
and
organization,
so
that
we
know
who's
speaking
when
so,
I
will
say
that,
on
the
on
the
staff
end,
as
indicated
in
the
in
the
agenda,
we
did
have
a
couple
of
organizations
that
say
they
could
not
make
it
initially.
The
mural
society
and
the
blanchard
house
museum
had
confirmed
at
the
date
of
publication
of
this.
They
subsequently
called
and
said
that
they
could
not
make
it
because
of
other
conflicts.
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Well,
I
guess
first,
my
name
is
steve.
Valdez
first
would
be
the
military
heritage
museum,
I'm
with
the
artifacts
area
there
and
working
on
a
program
of
a
military
trail,
which
is
it
goes
across
a
number
of
counties,
and
secondly-
and
I
want
to
get
this
title
right-
I'm
with
the
historical
advisory
committee
of
the
charlotte
county
board
of
county
commissioners-
and
the
only
reason
I'm
here
is-
I
heard
about
this
offhand
and
that's
why
I'm
here
not
through
the
historical
advisory
committee
of
the
charlotte
county
board
of
county
commissioners?
Well,.
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A
Okay,
I
guess
I
we
don't
have
any
preconceived
notions
up
here.
We
just
really
believe
that
you
know
as
the
historic
preservation
advisory
board.
We
ought
to
be
involved
with
your
organizations,
and
I
did
pick
up
on
something
that
gene
had
mentioned
when
the
ac
freeman
house
was
first
presented
to
the
council
as
a
project
that
the
history
center
would
be
interested
in
working
on
something
that
would
contribute
to
the
restoration
of
this
property.
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So
that
gave
me
the
idea
that
maybe
some
other
organizations
would
have
ideas
or
would
want
to
be
involved
with
us.
Our
limitation
is
that
we
can
only
talk
as
a
group
as
a
group
for
sunshine
reasons.
I
mean
we
can
talk
to
you
individually
one-on-one
or
we
could
talk
to
groups,
you
know
separately,
but
this
is
the
only
opportunity
we
have
to
have
a
conversation
where
everyone's
involved
with
it
per
sunshine
laws.
I
I
You
guys
got
it
and
let
us
lease
it
and
we'll
raise
all
the
money
no
which
we
did
to
refurbish
the
entire
building
and
probably
over
the
course
of
two
or
three
years
we
may
have
raised
quarter
million
dollars
and
today
it's
a
it's
it's
kind
of
like
a
real
showpiece.
I
think
it's
in
it's
brand
new
building.
I
We
continue
to
do
fundraising,
but
if
I
were
looking
at
the
ac
freeman
house,
I
would
say
that
it
took
10
years
to
get
it
in
the
shape
it's
in.
So,
let's
take
a
decent
amount
of
time
to
restore
it,
you
don't
need
a
million
dollars
today
to
bring
it
back
to
where
it
should
be
put
together,
a
strategic
plan
which
spans,
maybe
four
or
five
years
and
start
with
the
ground
up
and
work
your
way
and
you'd
be
better,
better,
be
able
to
manage
the
money
the
needs.
I
And
but
to
me,
I
think,
an
independent
funder,
fundraising
effort
working
with
various
organizations
would
be
a
potential
solution
if
you
get
a
half
a
million
dollars
on
a
grant
by
by
the
way
that
may
be
my
matching
dollars
too.
For
that
grant,
is
it
a
mitch?
Yes,
sir?
That's
what
I
thought.
So
how
much
is
the
initial
grant
is.
G
I
H
Fourth
generation
floridian
but
new
to
this
area,
and
I
I
think
it's
it's
really
interesting,
seeing
so
many
different
people
and
we're
so
fractious
in
our
historical
outlook.
On
what
we're
doing
I
mean
if
there
was
some
way
in
which
all
of
these
groups
to
including
people
like
the
conquistadors
other
501,
c
3s
and
the
dar,
but
there's
no
mechanism
where
we
all
come
together,
and
so
if
there
was
a
committee,
a
group,
a
way
in
which
you
could
unite
all
these
various
fractions
that
have
historical
ideas
and
make
it
a
concerted
effort.
H
F
F
They
haven't
experienced
in
the
past.
I
discovered
a
came
down
here
from
dayton.
Ohio
had
left
clear
water
years
before
anyway
came
back,
and
while
in
dayton
I
ended
up
with
a
project
of
funding
and
starting
a
foundation,
historical
preservation
foundation
for
a
36,
000
square
foot,
shrine
building
the
future
of
the
building
was
bleak
because
it
didn't
have
any
capital
to
and
really
didn't
have
a
future.
F
F
The
down
the
upside
is
that,
ten
years
later,
they
now
have
two
million
dollars
in
an
endowment
fund.
They
basically
have
no
worries
in
the
future,
especially
with
the
growth
of
maintaining
that
building
it,
probably
in
perpetuity
whether
the
shriners
go
away
and
which
is
happening
with
some
organizations
why
that
couldn't
be
done
here,
but
they
are
also
up
there
now
involving
other
groups,
because
they
have
excess
funds
in
historical
preservation,
and
I
totally
agree
with
what
you're
saying
it
can
be
done.
It
might
be
an
approach,
but
up
there.
F
Of
course,
you
that
organization
has
to
work
within
the
confines
of
the
city
of
dayton,
the
state
historical
guidelines
and
those
of
a
charity
501c3,
it's
not
impossible
to
do,
and
it's
not
that
hard
and
they
now
have
a
board
that
is
watching
over
everything.
The
whole
way
which
we
could
be
part
of,
we
could
don't
know
what
the
structure
might
be,
but
I
think
it'd
be
important,
that
the
historical
preservation
advisory
board
participate
in
some
way
or
another.
Thank
you.
E
Sandy
moon
punta
gara,
historical
society.
As
I
stated
in
front
of
this
committee
two
months
ago,
I
have
to
agree
with
gene
100
we're
we're
taking
off
we're
trying
to
eat
an
elephant
all
at
once.
There
is
no
reason
why
we
can't
take
this
project
piece
by
piece
now.
I
understand
you've
got
a
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
grant
with
matching
funds,
not
knowing
what
your
grant
terms
are
going
to
be,
how
long
they're
going
to
give
you
to
complete
the
project
which
is
negotiable.
E
I
think
worrying
about
raising
money
today
is
not
the
issue.
The
issue
is
for
some
of
us
to
get
together
and
assist
this
board
and
the
city
with
how
they
can
approach
this
without
screaming
armageddon,
where's
the
money
where's,
the
money,
where's
the
money
and
to
gene's
point.
You
start
with
the
structure.
You
start
with
the
envelope,
which
is
what
we
did
at
the
historic
train
depot.
E
A
A
It's
not
in
anyone's
particular
bailiwick
and
it
that
particular
property
man
matters
a
lot
to
all
of
us
because,
as
I
say
it's
one
of
the
few
national
historic
structures,
we
have
that's
recognized
or
will
soon
be
re-recognized
it's
on
the
gateway
into
the
city.
It's
highly
recognizable.
It
shows
up.
Whenever
you
see
pictures
of
ponte
gorda.
You
always
see
that,
so
we
can't
really
afford
to
let
it
go
so
I
you
know
I
would
welcome
having
us
be
part
of
some.
You
know
group.
That's
focused
on
that
particular
initiative.
A
So
again
any
ideas
people
would
have
about
stepping
up,
and
I
and
again
I
would
like
to
see
obviously
team
ponte
gorda.
Who
else
is
not
here
the
mural
society
I
mean
there
are
a
number
of
other
organizations
that
we
would
welcome
to
be
part
of
this
effort.
I
mean
I
even
just
had
this
thought.
I
don't
know
if
it's
doable,
if
we
would
have
the
old
timers
weekend
or
whatever
that's
called
it.
A
I
I
said:
how
did
you
do
that?
That's
my
karaoke
song,
yeah,
I
I
practice,
but
you
know
I'd
just
like
to
add
one
more
comment.
If
you
don't
mind,
go
ahead,
I
don't
think
there's
any
any
dissension
in
the
historical
groups.
No,
we
all
belong
on
each
other's
groups
and
we
belong
to
the
historical.
So
I
was
on
the
board
for
a
long
while
and.
I
I
I
know
so
I
mean
there
is
no
dissension
here.
No,
but
there
are
certainly
different
niches.
We
feel
okay
and
none
of
them.
I
think,
really
are
really.
You
could
umbrella
them
all
together
and
function
and
and
sustain
it
financially.
Pontegorth
the
history
center
we're
in
archives
we're
we're
pretty
straight
forward,
we're
an
archives.
I
We
don't
want
anything
to
do
with
buildings,
although
the
ac
freeman
house
is
special
because
we
hate
to
see
that
not
be
with
us,
but
and
we
support
the
military
heritage,
museum
and-
and
there
isn't
any
friction
here.
So
it's
a
it's
a
misunderstanding:
if
there
is
no
a
lot
of
people
like
to
say
that
they'd
like
to
have
one
monolith
of
a
history
organization,
well,
you
can't
point
me
to
any
city
and
that
that's
the
case
I've
born
and
raised
in
philadelphia.
I
We
have
the
philadelphia
art
museum,
we
have
the
rhodam
museum.
We've
got
all
kinds
of
different
organizations
that
support
the
arts
and
support
history.
So
I
mean,
I
think,
actually,
if
we
proceeded
and
had
a
501,
3c
setup,
the
advisory
board
would
just
be
another
member
of
that
organization
and
we'd
all
work
cohesively
together.
I
don't
see
whether
it
be
any
any
friction,
and
I
think
I
think
we
all
know
it
one
another
pretty
well
and
we're
we
like
this
community.
I
We
all
love
this
community
and
I
think
we're
all
working
pretty
good
together
and
I
think
the
historical
society,
by
the
way,
what
they've
done
with
some
of
their
facilities
is
nothing
short
of
amazing
because,
as
I
always
say,
there's
only
one
thing
that
old
houses
do.
Is
they
get
older,
okay
and
then
and
it's
more
maintenance
but
they've
done
an
admirable
job.
Look
at
the
train
depot
look
at
the
women's
club.
They
got
a
roof
on
it
and
it
took
years
air.
I
I
can
guarantee,
I
can
almost
guarantee
you
that
if
we
had
a
plan
and
we
weren't
focused
on
plumbing
or
carpentry,
we
would
get
people
stepping
up
from
the
trades
that
would
donate
their
time.
The
roof
at
the
the
one
building
was
done
by
the
real,
the
realtors
association
over
the
history
park.
What
what?
What
building
was
that?
Do?
I
You
remember
yeah,
because
I
was
part
of
that
at
that
time,
but
and
not
a
dime
was
it
was
spent
by
the
historical
society
it
was
donated
and
there
are
a
lot
of
organizations
that
will
step
up
in
a
lot
of
construction.
I
feel
sure
that
the
realtors
associate
part
of
me,
the
construction
association
of
charlotte
county.
Now
you
get
people
like
built
truax
and
things
like
that
who
have
their
own
construction
companies
they're,
pretty
generous
people.
I
E
A
A
You
know
an
initiative
to
focus
on
the
ac
freeman
house?
One
of
us
from
this
board
could
attend,
I
mean
rather
than
all
of
us.
You
know
we
could
have
somebody
who
could
be
our
representative
in
that
process
and
then
we
could,
you
know,
have
more
of
a
brainstorming
session
and
maybe
get
some
agreement
on
how
we
build
a
plan
go
forward.
G
Yeah,
so
that
that's
actually
one
of
the
things
that
that
staff
definitely
wanted
to
to
talk
about
is,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
a
very
difficult
format
to
have
any
sort
of
substantive
discussion,
because
it's
not
really
set
up
for
discussion
and
that's
the
way
that,
unfortunately,
all
boards
and
committees
and
city
councils
and
county
commissions
and
everything
else
in
the
state
of
florida
have
to
be
set
up.
As
because
of
the
the
sunshine
laws.
It
is
very
difficult
to
have.
G
About
something
that
you
might
vote
on
in
the
future,
with
with
elected
or
appointed
officials,
so
in
my
experience
here
at
the
city,
the
city
itself
is
not
necessarily
the
best
convener
people
don't
tend
to
pay
attention
to
us
unless
they
have
to
have
to
so
I
I
would
really
recommend
that
that
somebody
else
provide
that
horsepower.
I
know
that,
just
in
my
experience,
team
punta
gorda
is
actually
really
good
at
doing
that.
Bringing
groups
of
people
together
with
different
interests
and
and
saying
hey.
What
do
you
want
to
do?
G
They're,
also
them
and
or
the
the
community
foundation
the
community
foundation
used
to
own
this
building
by
the
way
either
one
of
those
organizations?
You
know
they're,
obviously
they're
already
501
c
3's.
They
can
accept
donations
do
that,
so
they
they
have
capac
organizational
capacity
which
wouldn't
need
to
be
recreated.
G
G
So
that
that
that's
the
challenge,
because
I
know
that
that
many
of
you
are
of
course
engaged
in
the
community
in
other
ways-
and
you
may
be
part
of
other
organizations,
but
just
because
you
would
be
quote
unquote
representing
one
of
those
organizations,
you
cannot
attend
with
another
board
member
to
one
of
those
meetings.
So
that's
that's!
The
challenge
is
of
of
of
the
statute
and
of
the
having
the
city
do
anything
as
far
as
convening
people
and
getting
groups
together
is
we.
G
We
run
that
risk
of
it
being
oh
well,
you're
having
a
a
public
meeting
without
noticing
it.
What
are
you
doing
and
and
all
of
these
sort
of
conspiracy
theory
questions
about?
You
know
we
we
work
very
hard
to
avoid.
All
of
that,
and
at
least
to
this
point,
the
city
has
done
a
very
good
job
of
avoiding
the
appearance
of
any
impropriety
in
those
circumstances.
G
So
we
want
to
continue
that
track
record
moving
forward,
but
definitely
a
point
person
from
this
board
appointed
to
some
group
and
and
find
somebody
who
will
convene
a
meeting
of
the
minds
and
get
everybody
in
the
room
and
in
terms
of
getting
everybody
in
the
room.
Initially,
that
is
definitely
something
that
all
of
the
individual
board
members
can
engage
in.
You
all
have
your
independent
networks
outside
of
this
room.
Just
like
hey,
you
need
to
go
to
this
meeting
kind
of
thing.
D
Well,
first
off,
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
the
idea
of
gathering
as
many
of
the
groups
as
possible.
We
have
such
a
vast
amount
of
talent
that
is
out
there
just
waiting
to
do
something,
but
they
need
to
be
directed
and
I'll.
Give
you
a
good
example.
I
attended
a
function
here
a
few
nights
ago
with
an
individual,
and
I
happened
to
mention
this
meeting
and
you
know
he
started
rattling
off
all
of
the
different
things
that
he
had
done
in
new
york,
and
I
mean
the
guy's
a
wealth
of
information
and
an
expertise.
D
Take
your
pick,
you
know
whatever
happens,
you
know,
people
are
people
and
I
still
am
amused
daily
by
them.
But
but
but
the
point
of
the
matter
is
that
you
know
the
two
of
us
are
here
because
of
the
fact
that
we
just
happened
to
off
handily
hear
about
this
particular
meeting
at
courtesy
of
mitchell.
D
So
I
think
the
first
thing
we
need
to
do
is
develop
a
much
more
accurate
database
of
what
we
have
and
and
really
keep
in
contact
with,
whoever
the
corresponding,
usually
the
corresponding
secretary
of
that
particular
group
and
verify
that.
Are
you
really
the
secretary
still?
Are
you
still
you
know
communicating?
Are
you
interested-
and
you
know
we'd
love-
to
have
your
input
on
particular
things
and
then
from
there
the
flow
of
talent
and
information.
You
know
certainly
can
come
forward
and
I
to
digress
one
more
step.
D
I
had
a
chat
with
some
folks.
This
was
quite
a
while
back
and
I
was
amazed
at
what
those
people
brought
to
the
table
and
it
just
just
the
talent
that
was
just
simmering
there
waiting.
You
know
30
years
of
this
expertise
or
that
talent
or
whatever,
and
it's
just
just
dwindling
there
waiting
for
hey.
I
I
need
something
I
need
help
and-
and
that's
all
a
lot
of
people
want
to
hear
is
hey.
I
you
know
please.
What
can
you
help
me
with
and
most
people
are
eager
to
do
that.
D
So
I
think
that's.
The
database
is
probably
the
key
factor
to
it.
Yeah,
that's
going
to
take
some
legwork,
a
few
phone
calls
and
whatever
else
that
we
may
have
emails,
usually
don't
work
because
they're
easily
deleted.
So
it's
got
to
be
a
person-to-person
contact
for
that
type
of
thing,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
from
the
conquistadors.
D
You
know
we
just
had
a
change
of
leadership
for
vote
and
our
secretary
remained
the
same.
Our
treasurer
remained
the
same,
but
but
you
know
they
they
really
haven't
been
in
that
business
or
in
that
position.
For
that
long-
and
I
do
know
that
things
have
been
being
sent
to
the
wrong
address
for
quite
some
time
because
of
the
old
secretary
who's,
not
even
involved
with
the
group
anymore.
So
that's
just
one
classic
example
of
of
what
we
I
think
we
all
deal
with,
and
it's
not
just
here.
G
E
E
G
Don
I
can
address
that
real,
quick,
the
use
of
the
building,
so
the
the
the
ac
freeman
house,
the
rehabilitation,
we're
we're
we're
working
with
the
architect
to
do
the
rehabilitation
design
we're
at
60
plants
right
now.
The
intent
for
the
uses
is
the
second
floor
is,
is
going
to
be
done
as
office
space,
it's
difficult
to
use
it
for
any
public
use
because,
of
course,
it's
not
accessible.
G
So
we
can't
do
office
space
with
reasonable
accommodation,
because
it's
a
historic
structure.
The
ground
floor
is
intended
to
be
basically
restored.
As
a
house
museum
and
a
small
event,
space,
the
the
ground
floor,
the
front
porch
and
the
back
area,
the
historic
detached
our
semi-attached
kitchen
would
be
a
catering
kitchen,
warming
kitchen
space
and
we
do
have
to
include
restroom
pavilions
for
ada
accessibility.
So
the
building
design
is
being
done
with
the
intent
that
the
ground
floor
will
be
leased
to
a
third
party
to
operate,
and
it
will
be
incumbent
upon
that.
G
G
The
building
was
leased
to
the
charlotte
county
chamber
and
they
had
like
a
little
sub
agreement
with
the
historical
society.
So
it
was
filled
with
with
antiques
furnishings
period,
mostly
period
appropriate
furnishings
and
for
several
years
they
operated
the
ground
floor,
for
you
know,
informal
home
tours
and
manned
that
space
that
that
fell
away
after
a
few
years
and
but
the
charlotte
county
chamber
continued
to
keep
an
open
door
and
and
tell
people
about
the
home
as
much
as
they
knew
when
people
walked
in.
G
So
it's
always
been
until
the
last
couple
of
years
when,
when
it
became
uninhabitable,
has
always
been
open
to
the
public
on
the
ground,
floor
and
and
used,
and
that
is
our
intent.
Moving
forward,
so
it
is
not
intended
to
be
an
office
space.
There
will
be
offices
in
it
because
we
have
the
need
for
office
space.
We
do
not
have
enough
room
on
this
campus
for
all
of
the
people
that
work
here.
H
Just
two
words
just
to
follow
up
on
sandy
in,
in
my
background,
in
sales
and
marketing,
there's
only
two
things
that
are
important
to
anybody
that
wields
power
or
money.
Can
you
save
me
money,
or
can
you
make
me
money
and
so
in
this
particular
thing,
can
you
make
me
money?
That's
all
politicians
want
to
hear
because
that
helps
them
stay
in
office.
It
helps
them
build
their
reputation
and
whether
it's
personal
or
community,
so
if
we
can,
if
we
can
hit
that
note,
I
mean
for
the
train
station.
F
We
belong
to
or
that
organization,
but
for
the
whole
process
of
preserving
our
city.
Now,
there's
probably
the
word
that
rings.
A
bell
with
us
of
how
many
times
have
I
set
up
here
in
different
groups,
are
in
the
audience
and
listen
to.
We
want
to
preserve
the
character
of
our
city,
yet
we,
the
city,
is
leading
that
charge.
However,
what
we're
lacking
is
something
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
retire
here
and
they
have
legacies.
F
F
It
just
goes
on
and
on
why,
and
we
raised
enough
money
eventually,
even
after
I
left,
they
continued
to
raise
money
and
it
is
coming
in
now,
because
there
is
a
foundation
organization
there.
Not
only
are
they
helping
fund
and
maintain
that
building
as
an
asset
for
the
city,
but
they
are
also
have
expanded
to
assisting
other
groups
and
maintaining
the
neighborhood
around
them,
the
local
historic
houses
and
structures
that
are
in
that
area.
D
I
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from,
but
I
don't
think
that's
ever
a
goal.
That's
ever
met
anywhere,
there's
always
a
diverse
diversity
in
different
needs,
and
most
people
look
upon
they're
going
to
contribute
to
x,
y
and
z
or
whatever
it
might
be,
but
to
think
like,
as
I
said
earlier,
you're
going
to
have
one
monolithic
organization
that
will
last
forever
into
eternity
and
that's
where
you
would
like
to
invest
your
money.
I
don't
think
that
really
ever
ever
really
happens
anywhere.
I
I
mean
philanthropic
organizations
usually
and
cover
many
many
or
other
organizations
with
their
money.
No,
but
I
would
think
we
as
far
as
developing
a
database.
I
think
we
can
put
a
database
together
in
about
a
day.
Okay,
we.
This
is
a
this
is
in
new
york,
and
this
is
pontagorte
charlotte
county.
I
mean
we
pretty
much
know
who
who
all
the
organizations
are
and
who
the
players
are
yeah,
and
I
don't
think
just
because
we
got
one
grant
going,
doesn't
mean
we
can't
get
another
grant
going.
I
I
mean
they're
always
all
over
the
place
and
once
the
city
used
to
notify
us
about
a
grant
opportunities
coming
up
and
there
were
they
were
pretty
frequent,
okay
and
but
in
our
takes,
we
didn't
need
the
money.
No,
because
we
already
did
our
job.
The
mission
was
kind
of
complete
and
we
have
a
continuum
of
money
coming
in
every
year
throughout
fundraising.
So
but
but
we
are
an
archives
in
the
history
center.
I
Okay-
and
that's
that's
really,
especially
that
isn't
an
organization
with
its
skill
set
that
gets
into
repairing
buildings,
and
we
luckily
have
the
historical
society,
but
we
all
work
together
and
I
think
forming
an
organization
pretty
expeditiously
is
the
thing
to
do,
because
you
contemplate
stand
around
contemplate
what
you're
going
to
do.
Nothing
ever
gets
done.
Okay,
and
I
had
a
guy
going
to
live
like
that.
I
I
want
some
action.
I
want
to
get
something
done
and
that's
what
we're
here
for
okay,
so
we
should
make
a
decision
over
a
short
period
of
time,
maybe
the
next
few
weeks,
which
way
we're
going
to
go,
but
I
think
the
longer
we
will
you
play
around
with
this
and
think
of.
What's
the
greatest
organization
we
can
assemble
together.
The
ac
freeman
house
is
further
riding
away,
so
let's
get
it
going.
F
One
last
comment:
if
I
may
again,
previous
life
experiences
like
you've
referred
to
and
several
others
have
from
the
audience
people
bring
down
here
to
us
in
dayton,
the
dayton
foundation.
You
can
go
to
and
leave
a
multi-million
dollar
legacy
to
help
support
various
groups,
charities
or
organizations
and
people
do.
The
dayton
foundation
has
grown
from
400
million
in
assets
to
over
a
billion
in
the
last
14
years.
A
Okay,
if
I
can
throw
out
a
suggestion-
since
you
know
the
city
and
mitchell
cited
the
reasons
why
they
wouldn't
be
a
good
convener
for
this.
Unless
there's
somebody
here
today
who
wants
to
take
the
lead
on
this,
I'm
willing
to
not
willing,
but
I
will
talk
to
either
team
ponte,
gorda
or
I'll
talk
to
the
community
foundation
about
what
we're
trying
to
put
together
and
I'm
you
know.
Since
gene
mentioned,
you
know,
save
the
ac
freeman
house.
A
I
was
thinking
about
the
friends
of
gilchrist
who
raised
the
money
for
the
playground
and
they
did
it
pretty
expeditiously
and
that
went
across.
You
know
it
was
cross
city
to
make
that
happen.
Maybe
it's
the
friends
of
the
ac
freeman
house
and
we
have
this
meeting.
I
think
we
could
probably
do
it
at
the
community
foundation
and
I
think
it's
you
know
important
to
have
team
involved,
because
certainly
nancy
johnson
has
strategic
abilities
and
a
lot
of
people
in
the
room
do.
A
A
Yeah
and
again,
I'm
not
necessarily
saying
they
would
manage
the
project,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
getting
people
to
come,
because
obviously
a
lot
of
folks
invest
their
money
through
the
community
foundation.
They
support
lots
of
initiatives
I
could
see.
Potentially
they
might
get
more
involved
if
they
had
a
segment
that
was
focused
on
preservation,
which
would
benefit
all
of
us.
So
if,
if
we're
in
agreement
I'll
do
that
approach
the
two
yeah
I'll
approach,
you.
F
A
A
A
Okay,
so
we'll
let
the
record
show
that
you
will
be
our
representative
to
a
group
soon.
You
know
to
be
named
at
a
later
date
and
I
will
contact
both
nancy
and
oh,
my
my
friend,
who
runs
it
who's.
He
whose
name
is
escaping
me
right
now.
Welcome
to
the
club.
I
know
I
know
I
can
see
her
we're
on
charter
review
together.
So
but
anyway,
I
will
get
in
touch
with
her.
Okay,
okay,
okay,.
B
Thank
you.
This
is
an
update
on
what
it
is
mentioned,
which
is
this
notion
of
renovating
and
updating
the
historical
features
of
the
ponce
de
leon
park.
We
had
two
meetings
this
month.
The
first
meeting
was
a
kickoff
meeting
on
february
3rd
that
was
organized
by
mitchell,
austin
and
kent.
Kretzler
from
the
conquistadors
joined
myself
and
mitchell
to
discuss
updating
the
park's
historical
features.
We
took
a
look
at
some
of
the
currently
funded
infrastructure
projects
at
the
park
and
some
of
the
other
known
infrastructure
needs,
and
then
kent
shared
with
us.
B
The
information
about
the
2020
donation
of
the
ponce
de
leon
bus
to
the
city,
which
we
hope
to
find
a
nice
home
for
in
the
park
and
the
notion
of
developing
a
history
walk
at
the
park.
Kent
had
prior
experience
with
the
successful
history
walk
at
a
college.
So
his
background
was
again
this
idea
of
expertise.
That's
already
out
there
in
the
community,
was
very
informative
and
helpful
and
mitchell
reviewed
with
us.
B
Some
of
the
typical
steps
or
project
milestones
that
we
could
expect
from
the
beginning
from
proposal
development
all
the
way
through
to
project
completion,
and
so
that
was
our
first
meeting
where
we
kind
of
were
getting
a
lay
of
the
land.
And
then
we
had
a
follow-up
meeting
just
kent
and
myself
at
the
library
on
february
the
8th
and
we
were
looking
at
the
first
stage
of
the
process.
There
were
many
stages
that
mitchell
was
kind
enough
to
help.
B
Give
us
a
sense
of-
and
the
first
stage
of
course,
is
developing
the
project
proposal,
sort
of,
as
we
might
say,
the
sales
pitch
for
improving
the
visitor
experience
at
the
park.
And
so
we
talked
about
some
of
the
key
goals
of
what
our
proposal
might
be:
the
educational
value
of
improving.
What's
there
it's
kind
of
a
hodgepodge
right
now,
revitalizing
the
park
appearance
and
the
visitor
experience
there,
and
this
overall
increasing
public
interest
and
attendance
at
the
park,
particularly
in
light
of
the
fact
that
the
wildlife
center
will
be
moving
in
the
future.
B
And
that's
been
the
big
draw
at
this
point
to
the
park.
We
also
talked
about
the
project
vision.
What
might
be
some
of
the
key
characteristics
of
the
historic
walk
concept?
We're
looking
at
projected
cost.
That's
everything
from
signage
to
putting
in
a
brick
path
to
anything
that
might
be
required
and
we're
thinking.
B
History
walk
and
then,
as
part
of
this
stage,
one,
we
would
put
together
a
project
brief,
and
that
would
involve
things
like
an
executive,
summary
and
powerpoint
slides
and
talking
points,
and
we
would
use
that
to
go
out
into
the
community
to
talk
a
lot
about
this
today,
to
build
the
partnerships
and
to
inform
people
about
the
project
to
get
support
for
it.
So
there's
a
lot
sort
of
involved
just
in
the
stage
one
aspect
of
it.
B
We
have
a
pretty
good
to-do
list
that
we've
created
for
ourselves,
but
we
started
some
of
it
already
kent
and
I
both
sort
of
independently
walked
the
park.
I've
put
together
an
inventory
of
the
existing
historical
markers
and
sanctuaries
at
the
park,
and
kent
has
been
reaching
out
he
because
of
his
prior
experience
with
the
history
walk.
B
He
knows
a
lot
of
these
companies
that
make
these
outdoor
historical
markers
and
signs
so
he's
been
reaching
out
to
them,
trying
to
determine
what
some
of
the
cost
might
be
so
we're
on
the
path
of
stage
one,
but
that's
all
right,
usually,
as
I
say,
a
long
journey
begins
with
the
first
step.
So
this
is
the
first
steps
and
I'll
continue
to
update
the
board.
B
As
we
progress
through
this
initial
proposal
stage,
the
idea
would
be
to
put
together
a
draft
proposal,
come
to
the
board
and
get
feedback
first
before
we
get
into
anything
more
formal,
and
I
really
want
to
thank
mitchell
austin
because
I
know
he's
a
busy
man
in
urban
design
for
organizing
our
kickoff
meeting
and
also
for
giving
us
his
knowledge
and
expertise
about.
What's
the
process
going
to
look
like
from.
B
B
For
his
his
patience,
that's
one
thing:
we're
all
going
to
need
through
the
process,
but
also
his
enthusiasm
and
his
willingness
to
bring
his
insights
from
prior
experience
at
a
college
to
put
together
a
history,
walk
at
the
palm
stadium
park.
So
we
have
two
meetings
and
that's
where
we're
at
right
now.
A
B
No
yes,
of
course,
the
idea
was
at
this
point,
we're
going
to
give
the
concept
run
it
by
the
board
here
and
then
run
it
by
this
lead
counts.
We
don't
want
to
get
fined
on
the
path
of
the
negativity,
so
we're
not
going
to
want
to
history
walk
so
part
of
it
was
the
idea
of
coming
up
with
sort
of
a
drop
concept
proposal
getting
feedback
first.
B
A
Yeah,
because
what
we're
also
trying
to
do
is
have
some
consistency
to
the
markers
that
we
place
in
the
city.
So
I'm
inclined
to
want
to
work
with
the
group
that
has
done
the
work
to
this
point
on
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we've
installed.
So
I
think
it's
just
really
important
to
be
able
to,
especially
when
you
present
to
the
council
to
say
that
that's
one
of
the
people
that
you're
working
with
okay.
A
A
F
A
C
G
A
D
The
received
I
like
it
up
here,
the
conquistadors
are
just
one
organization
that
is
interested
in
this
and
and
to
expand
upon
what
lucille
said.
I
just
happened
to
have
a
meeting
with
an
associate
of
mine
in
the
area,
and
I
just
got
to
talking
about
the
concept
of
the
history
walk
and
where
we're
going
to
put
it,
what
we
were
going
to
do.
D
I
wasn't
halfway
through
my
spiel
for
lack
of
a
better
way
of
putting
it
and
the
person
stood
up
and-
and
she
is
very,
very
involved
she's
a
leader
in
the
organization-
and
she
said
we're
in
I
said
we
don't
know
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
we're
in.
So
that's
the
enthusiasm
that
we
have.
You
know
with
some
of
the
people.
D
I
mentioned
it
to
the
conquistadors,
probably
about
a
year
or
two
ago,
when
this
the
the
idea
was
forming,
and
they
said
yeah,
we
love
it
and
and
I've
yet
to
have
anybody
to
say
well,
let
me
think
about
it,
which
is
a
usual
no,
but
you
know
I've
had
nothing
but
very,
very
positive
response
on
that.
So
it's
it's
designed
to
be
self-funded.
D
You
know
with
with
no
no
government,
you
know
monies
coming
in
in
this
way.
It's
just
basically
a
gift
to
the
city
from
a
wide
variety
of
sources
throughout
and
then
one
step
further
too,
when
some
I've
been
talking
to
some
of
these
people
about
this
once
again
the
expertise
of
some
of
these
people,
the
blanchard
haas,
you
know,
has
a
tremendous
he's,
a
walking
encyclopedia
of
the
history
of
this
area,
and
so
you
know
there's
so
many
people
that
we
can
resource
in
order
to
put
this
together.
D
D
But
once
again,
these
are
all
resource
resources
that
we
can
go
out
and
draw
from
in
order
to
put
something
together,
the
historical
group
that
you're
mentioning
absolutely
because
you
know
those
are
the
people
that
we
would
hope
would
be
would
be
able
to
provide
a
concise
and
that's
the
key
word-
a
concise
history
of
a
particular
item
and
they're
going
to
be
talking
about
different
things.
If
you
want
more
information
on
those
things
and
you
want
to
delve
into
a
little
bit
more
detail,
we're
going
to
put
a
qr
code
on
it.
D
So
if
you
really
want
to
find
out
something
more
about
poster
leon
or
the
the
the
the
hit
the
the
the
fishing
industry
or
pick
something
anything,
you
know
well,
here's
some
things
about
it
and
then
here's
the
rest
of
the
story,
if
you're
really
interested
in
it.
But
we
want
to
keep
it
short
for
two
reasons.
D
First,
off
people's
attention
span
is
about
that
that
long
two
they're
not
going
to
stand
out
in
the
sun
reading
something
that's
going
to
take
10
15
minutes,
so
we're
going
to
keep
it
short,
sweet,
simple
and
then
from
there.
Here's
where
you
can
find
the
rest
of
the
the
information
so
yeah,
but
that's
the
concept
as
of
right
now,.