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Planning Commission 02-28-2022
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All
right
good
afternoon,
madam
chairman
and
members
of
the
planning
commission,
my
my
name-
is
bob
seifried
and
I'm
part
of
a
committee
of
the
historic
pontegorda
civic
association
and
we're
look.
We've
been
looking
into
the
ldr's
and
the
new
comp
plan.
The
association
has
not
voted
on
this,
so
this
is
not
their
official
position,
but
is
the
position
of
the
committee
we
believe
there's
a
perfect
storm
brewing
in
the
historic
district,
the
cost
of
insurance,
repair
and
maintenance
of
historic
homes
is
skyrocketing
and
challenging
to
even
obtain
insurance.
F
Land
values
are
going
through
the
roof.
These
circumstances
create
an
economic
incentive
for
homeowners
to
sell
their
older
homes.
Builders
and
developers
recognize
the
opportunity
to
purchase
and
demolish
these
structures
and
then
maximize
profits
by
putting
duplexes
up
without
any
on
street
park,
without
any
off
street
parking
on
the
small
platted
lots.
F
F
My
associate
frank
conte
is
going
to
address
this
further.
What
I
have
described
in
more
detail
in
my
memo
that
you
received
is
creating
a
parking
problem,
increasing
the
number
of
cars
parked
on
the
streets,
a
potential
threat
to
the
public
safety
as
first
responders
access
is
reduced
when
parking
creates
a
one-lane
two-way
street
gilchrist
park,
overflow
parking
for
their
minimal
parking,
they
have,
there
is
greatly
reduced
by
residential
parking
and
the
historic
charm
and
neighborhood
culture
is
impacted.
F
We
have
proposed
solutions
that
we
hope
you
will
have
further
study
and
discussion.
That
would
be
one
required
that
a
single
family
home
can
only
be
replaced
with
a
single
family
home.
This
addresses
the
density,
the
parking
and
the
loss
of
the
historic
charm
two
require
two
on-site
parking
spaces
per
residential
unit
or
limit
parking
to
one
side
of
the
street.
Only
I
brought
photos
to
show
an
example
of
the
demolition
of
one
historic
home.
F
It
was
dr
mcqueen's
home
with
replaced
with
two
duplexes
and
no
on-site
parking
an
example
of
the
residential
street
park
on
gilchrist
in
front
of
the
duplexes
that
extends
down
the
street
yeah,
there's
the
parking
on
gilchrist
and
that
that
is
the
second
of
two
duplexes,
that
is
barbara.
Barbara
lashley's,
home
with
a
fence
and
those
cars
are
parked
all
the
way
down
the
street.
F
F
Will
the
winds
have
changed
from
this
impending
perfect
storm
blow
our
small,
charming
historic
village
away
and
change
it
to
blocks
of
small
densely
popular
populated
residences
and
parked
cars?
Now
is
the
time
to
address
these
problems
before
the
new
ldrs
are
implemented.
Please
give
our
concerns
serious
consideration.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
I
I
But
in
that
same
section
10.3,
it
states
driveways
required
for
all
improved
properties
in
the
city
having
access
to
public
or
private
roads.
So
I
would
like
you
just
to
take
into
consideration.
There
may
be
just
something
in
the
code
that
needs
to
be
changed,
but
it's
clear
that
there
are
developments
going
on
that.
Don't
have
any
driveways
and
any
means
of
on-site
parking.
I
E
That
we're
quickly
losing
our
historic
homes
and
those
historic
homes
are
a
major
benefit
to
the
charm
and
attraction
of
ponegorda,
and
also,
as
bob
noted,
the
economic
incentives
for
preserving
or
rehabilitating
historic
homes
are
not
present
in
the
give.
In
the
current
economic
circumstances,
other
small
towns,
with
historic
preservation
goals,
have
established
programs
specifically
for
historical
preservation.
G
G
E
Good
afternoon,
kelly
gaylord
from
the
punta
gorda
historic
mural
society,
the
mural
society,
was
established
27
years
ago
with
the
mission
to
present
our
local
history
through
art
and
public
murals,
the
art
of
public
murals.
Today
we
have
31
murals
throughout
the
city
and
have
established
puna
gorda
as
a
major
mural
city,
attracting
both
tourists
and
visitors
to
the
area.
In
order
to
do
the
murals,
you
need
buildings
that
have
walls
suitable
for
murals.
E
Our
current
ldrs
do
not
support
blank
walls
on
new
construction
requiring
windows
and
doors
every
16
feet.
Any
blank
walls
must
be
treated
with
architectural
features
case
in
point
when
the
chase
bank
building
was
being
designed
at
the
southern
entrance
of
the
city,
we
reached
out
to
them
for
a
possible
mural
wall,
and
the
answer
was
that
the
city
requirements
did
not
allow
for
it
over
the
years.
E
The
society
has
discussed
this
with
urban
design,
with
the
goal
of
addressing
it
in
the
new
ldrs
in
reviewing
the
new
ldrs,
it
appears
we
have
the
same
issue
in
the
building
type
standards.
The
building
buildings
with
storefronts
would
require
70
windows
and
doors
for
the
ground
floor.
40
for
the
upper
stories
for
the
highway
commercial
buildings,
they
would
require
50
windows
and
doors
for
street
level
and
no
front.
Each
wall
shall
remain
unpierced
by
a
window
or
door
for
more
than
16
feet.
E
Basically,
no
blank
walls
allowed
there
either
civic
buildings,
which,
like
schools,
would
allow
for
less
than
25
feet
or
30
percent
of
the
total
length
of
the
street
facade,
whichever
is
less
to
be
blank
and
the
blank
walls
must
be
treated
with
architectural
features
such
as
arcades,
trellises,
etc.
Inter-Exchange
commercial
overlay,
district
buildings
would
require
at
least
50
percent
of
the
ground
level
to
be
windows
and
doors,
and
no
public
facing
facade
shall
be
left
without
a
window
door
or
architectural
feature
for
greater
than
20
feet.
So,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
concern.
E
E
It
includes
the
murals
as
one
of
our
key
cultural
offerings
enlists
supporting
the
creation
of
murals
downtown
as
a
key
action
for
establishing
the
business,
downtown
arts,
culture
and
entertainment
business.
We
ask
that
you
consider
modifications
to
the
proposed
ldrs
that
will
at
a
minimum,
allow
blank
walls
for
murals
and
hopefully
encourage
them
as
well.
Thank
you.
F
F
The
problems
I
see
it
with
these
ldrs
is
parking
and
I
look
through
and
I
see
downtown
core
section,
3.2
c2
and
it
says
required
spaces
by
the
way.
You
don't
see
me
parking
address
too
much
in
this
whole
thing.
It
says:
vehicle
parking
requires
spaces,
see
requirements
in
article
10,
section
10.6,
article
10,
section
10.6,
says
to
encourage
the
continuing
revitalization,
revitalization
of
the
city's
downtown
city
center
zoning
district.
The
city
has
created
a
parking
exemption
area,
as
shown
on
the
map
below
within
this
exemption
area.
F
Buildings
with
a
footprint
and
the
keyword
there
is
footprint
of
ten
thousand
square
feet
or
less
are
not
required
to
provide
parking
for
the
use
on
the
site.
That
means
a
developer.
Developer
can
come
in
on
a
10.
000
square
foot
lot
build
a
commercial
facility
on
the
first
floor,
a
gym,
a
restaurant,
put
housing
apartments
on
the
on
the
second
floor
and
have
no
parking
no
requirement
for
parking.
F
Anybody
who
comes
to
the
city
on
the
weekend
knows
we
have
a
problem
with
parking.
Anybody
who
wants
to
see
the
clydesdales?
No,
we
have
a
knows.
We
have
a
problem
with
parking.
Okay,
it's
not
going
to
work
the
way
it's
written
here.
Then
you
go
on
further
residential
parking
in
this
downtown
core
area.
If
you're,
not
in
that
exemption
zone,
one
space
per
living
unit,
that's
not
going
to
work.
If
you
want
people
to
come
here,
you
need
two
spaces
and
you
won't
have
a
problem.
F
If
you
have
one
space
or
one
and
a
half
spaces
you're
going
to
have
a
major
problem
with
parking
outside
the
city,
center
workforce
and
affordable
housing,
1
to
1.5
spaces
per
unit,
workforce
housing,
you
normally
have
a
husband
and
a
wife,
okay,
both
of
them
work
both
of
them
have
cars.
It's
not
like.
We
have
subways
here,
it's
not
like.
We
have
trains
here,
it's
not
like.
We
have
trolleys
here.
We
don't
even
have
buses.
Okay,
everybody
drives
uber
and
lyft
are
sketchy,
especially
on
the
different
times
of
day.
F
It's
a
problem,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
people
that
don't
just
look
at
the
vacant
lots
here
for
these
codes.
What's
going
to
happen
is
depending
on
how
successful
they
are
you're,
going
to
see
a
lot
of
demolition,
take
place
in
the
city
and
the
developer's
going
to
come
in
and
go
higher
and
that's
going
to
be
a
problem.
If
you
want
to
see
our
city
go
that
way.
Fine,
that's
your
decision,
the
council's
decision,
but
I
don't
think
it's
right.
E
E
If
you
don't
require
a
garage
or
a
driveway,
what
happens
is
that
objects
that
would
normally
go
into
a
garage
or
on
the
driveway
now
are
either
end
up
on
the
front
porch
or
they
end
up
propped
up
against
the
sides
of
the
house
or
the
back
of
the
house:
trash
cans,
bicycles,
lawn
mowers,
all
kinds
of
things
like
that,
and
talk
about
wrecking
the
historic
charm
of
the
of
these
city.
That
certainly
would
be
a
quick
way
to
do
that.
E
E
Good
afternoon,
patty
allen
fisherman's
village,
and
I
think
I
have
a
solution
to
our
parking
problem,
so
it's
no
secret
that
public
parking
not
only
at
fisherman's
village,
but
our
downtown
area
has
been
and
continues
to
be,
an
issue.
I
kindly
request
that
an
alternative
thought
process
be
considered
regarding
height
of
the
desperately
needed
public
parking
in
our
community
parking
is
calculated
or
floors
are
calculated.
E
The
overall
height
of
the
building
over
base
flood
lending
very
little
to
build
above
can
we
consider
be
it
being
discussed
about
counting
the
height
after
public
parking
if
we're
at.
If
we
are
producing
public
parking
base,
flood
public
parking
and
then
count
the
height
from
that
point
on
up
the
developer,
the
developer
will
be
able
to
meet
their
financial
goals
and
the
need
for
more
public
parking
is
achieved,
and
I'm
not
talking
blanket
statement
across
the
community,
I'm
talking
in
those
areas
that
where
public
parking
is
desperately
needed.
Thank
you.
I
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
carlton
hughes.
I've
lived
and
worked
in
punta
gorda
since
2006
as
a
builder,
primarily
commercial
and
I've,
had
the
pleasure
in
being
involved
in
some
of
the
areas
highest
profile
projects,
including
the
event
center,
two
hotels,
downtown
lashley
park
and
the
puna
gorda
charlotte
library,
among
others.
I
I've
also
been
involved
in
as
many
projects
that
did
not
come
to
fruition.
It
is
those
projects
that
are
not
happening
that
are
of
my
concern
today.
The
city
is
in
dire
need
of
an
increased
commercial
tax
base.
This
isn't
my
idea.
This
has
been
discussed
at
length
in
the
budgetary
analysis
completed
as
part
of
the
2019
citywide
master
plan.
I
I
applaud
staff's
efforts
and
certain
additions
to
and
changes
to,
the
ldrs,
including
the
allowance
of
a
new
cottage
court
type
development,
which
is
growing
in
popularity
across
the
nation,
these
sort
of
micro
communities
that
are
focused
inwardly
to
a
kind
of
a
green
area.
I
think
that's
a
great
addition.
I
think
the
the
changes
to
the
row
house
and
courtyard
style
apartments
are
are
welcome
and
I've
seen
projects
go
by
the
wayside
that
didn't
meet
the
previous
ldrs.
I
So
thank
you
all
for
that.
I
do,
however,
have
a
specific
concern
with
the
community
benefits
points
program,
as
outlined
in
section
3.2.
The
point
system,
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know,
allows
property
owners
to
gain
certain
allowances
in
the
way
of
points
above
and
beyond.
What's
baked
into
the
zoning
code
by
providing
certain
community
benefits,
such
as
open
spaces,
parking,
etc,
there's
there's
a
list
of
them.
I
I
I
could
add
10
parking
spaces
over
and
above
what's
required,
and
I
would
gain
one
point
in
the
point
system.
So
if
I'm
building
a
parking
garage,
I'm
going
to
spend
eighteen
to
twenty
thousand
dollars
per
space
on
ten
spaces
to
gain.
One
point
in
this
community
benefits
program,
so
it's
gonna
cost
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
gain
one
point
and
I
have
a
total,
a
maximum
of
15
to
20.
Depending
on
the
zoning
classification,
I
think
on
certain
parcels.
I
C
C
So,
for
example,
my
concern
would
be
many
of
the
houses
or
the
vast
majority
of
the
houses
that
we
have
built
downtown
over
the
last
5-10
years
would
not
be
allowed
under
the
new
form-based
code.
The
second
port
point
I
want
to
make
to
this
commission
as
well
as
city
council.
Ultimately,
your
recommendation
to
them
is
taking
into
consideration
fema
we're
talking
about
parking
and
on
off-site
parking,
as
well
as
some
of
the
historic
homes,
the
fema
50
rule.
C
B
For
the
record
mitchell
austin
urban
design,
principal
planner,
so
this
is
primarily
for
staff
about
receiving
feedback.
So
the
public
comment
that
we've
heard
so
far
is
very
important.
I've
been
studiously
taking
notes.
I
didn't
want
anybody
to
think
I
was
ignoring
them,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
summarize
some
of
what
you've
said
and
we'll
obviously
go
back
and
listen
to
the
record
later
for
planning.
Commission,
you
you've
had
this
copy
of
the
code
and
and
have
hopefully
read
every
single
last
word.
B
So
what
I
have
for
you
today
is
a
brief
presentation,
but
this
presentation
is
not
really
about
me,
giving
you
new
information
or
ideas.
It's
about,
hopefully
guiding
some
of
the
conversation
and
getting
answers
to
some
questions
that
I
think
haven't
necessarily
been
addressed
because
we've
been
so
wrapped
up
in
the
big
picture
issues.
So
that's
the
framing
for
what
I'm
about
to
show
you.
B
So
today
on
the
agenda,
we
have
article
3
and
article
7..
That
is
what
is
being
presented
today.
That
is
what
has
been
published,
there's
a
whole
list
of
other
articles
in
the
city
of
pentagon,
land
development
regulations,
including
article
10,
which
was
mentioned
parking
loading,
article,
12,
landscaping
and
16,
which
is
administrative
stuff
that
will
all
need
to
be
modified,
based
on
where
we
end
up
with
article
3
and
article
7.
So
that's
why
you're,
not
necessarily
seeing
all
of
the
information
that
you
need
to
see.
B
So
we've
been
successful
in
that
regard.
The
current
code
has
been
a
success
and
we're
experiencing
those
growing
pains.
So
we
really
need
to
make
sure
that
we
tighten
up
the
ship
and
get
what
we
desire
as
a
community
out
of
development
as
it
continues
to
come
into
this
area,
because
we
assume
that
this
is
is
going
to
continue
to
occur.
B
B
So
from
a
staff
perspective,
we
want
to
understand:
are
these
base
districts
consistent
with
our
goals?
Is
there
a
wide
enough
range
here
between
traditional,
residential
and
downtown
core?
Are
the
areas
on
the
map
the
right
ones?
Again,
the
areas
on
the
map
are
based
on
the
existing
zoning
code.
So
there's
not
a
lot
of
flexibility.
B
So
it's
a
long-winded
first
question,
but
the
first
question
is:
is
this
okey
dokey?
Do
we
need
to
do
more
here?
Do
we
need
other
classifications?
Do
we
need
to
eliminate
some
of
these
districts
and
combine
them
if
not
we're
in
good
shape,
and
we
can
move
forward
with
the
next
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
really
this
is
a
complicated
one,
because
it's
based
on
everything,
that's
in
the
draft
code,
but
it's
critical
that
we
understand.
H
B
So
sort
of
some
of
this
is
projective,
but
most
of
it
is
really
just
based
on
the
current
code.
We
know
that
in
the
current
code
city
center
zoning
is
the
most
intense
zoning
classification
and
the
area
in
dark
purple
on
the
screen
downtown
core
that
regulating
district
mimics,
the
existing
city
center
zoning
district
same
thing
with
the
least
intensive,
traditional
residential
that
is
primarily
in
our
10.
B
B
Seems
like
so
residential
edge
allows
multi-family
by
right
on
development,
lots
and
then
neighborhood
transition
allows
some
level
of
commercial
it's
much
more
limited
than
in
the
other
areas.
The
other
thing
that
is
primary,
and
that
is
that
it
gives
us
another
break
point
to
exclude
the
proposed
community
benefits
from
so
we
were
tightening
in
and
as
a
mapping
exercise
to
make
sure
the
community
benefits
are
only
effective
in
those
areas
where
we
think
that
they
might
actually
add
value
to
the
city
instead
of
like.
A
So
so
in
then,
in
areas
like
this,
would
this
be
essentially
hardened
fast
or
is
there
some?
You
know
if
things
look
like
or
if
a
proposal
comes
along
that
could
go,
you
know
a
little
bit
more
one
way
or
the
other
is
their
flexibility
enough
to
allow
for
something
between
neighborhood
transition
and
residential
edge,
or
once
we
come
up
with
these.
Are
we
kind
of
locked
into
hard
boundaries.
B
So
the
boundaries
so
anything
that
you
create
like
if
you
were
to
create
another
district
five
years
from
now.
Let's
say
this
is
adopted:
you'd
create
another
district.
Five
years
from
now,
if
you're
re-zoning
any
area
to
that
new
district,
it
would
have
to
be
more
intense
or
equal
too.
You
cannot
take
away
property
rights
once
granted
in
the
state
of
florida.
You
open
the
local
municipality
up
to
a
takings,
a
regulatory
takings
which
would
mean
that
those
property
owners
could
sue
the
city
in
district
court
for
compensation
or
to
extinguish
those
portions
of
code.
B
B
B
A
B
So
the
second
part
of
this
is
we
get
into
the
overlay
districts.
So
there
are
some
name
changes
to
the
to
the
historic
district.
The
boundaries
are
changing,
shapes
a
little
bit,
we're
adding
one
and
we're
calling
for
the
creation
of
a
local
register
of
historic
buildings
and
all
other
existing
overlay
districts
are
retained.
G
Mitchell
before
we
move
on
on
when
we
talk
about
the
local
registry-
yes,
which
has
been
in
development
for
a
number
of
years
and
which
is
going
to
be
proposed
to
be
pruned
from
what
previously
existed
right
since
we're
always
talking
about
how
many
historic
homes
and
our
need
to
preserve.
Roughly
how
many
structures
do
you
think
are
on
that
list.
B
B
So
we
undertook
that
survey
update
and
based
on
that,
we
came
up
with
the
idea
of
establishing
a
local
register,
because
the
florida
master
site
file
really
isn't
a
list
of
historic
properties.
It's
a
list
of
it's
a
survey
of
old
and
anything
over
50
years
old
is
typically
documented
in
those
in
that
documentation.
You
make
a
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
it
is
historically
significant
or
not,
and
that's
opinion
based.
B
So
we
proposed
to
create
a
local
register.
We
went
through
this
exercise
with
the
historic
preservation
advisory
board
over
the
course
of
six
or
eight
months
going
through
the
list
that
had
been
created
by
staff
and
we
we
ended
up
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
about
300
structures
that
that
existed
at
that
point
in
time,
which
was
about
four
years
ago
now,.
G
G
Key
point
was
to
be
on
that
list:
it
wasn't
necessarily
age.
It
was
really
talking
about
architecture.
Also,
if
the
structure
and
we
had
the
documentation
could
prove
that
it
was
tied
to
a
historic
ponta,
gorda
figure,
for
example,
then
it
might
be
worthy
to
be
on
that
list.
But
again
we
were
really
trying
to
get
to
not
just
old
but
significant,
correct.
B
B
D
B
B
B
B
B
There
are
really
only
three
private
properties
in
that
district.
The
pg
waterfront
hotel.
The
four
points
and
the
event
center,
which
is
quasa
from
our
perspective,
is,
is
private
because
it's
not
owned
by
the
city.
It's
not
parkland,
so
it's
open
for
development,
but
all
of
those
provisions
have
been
folded
into
the
underlying
zoning
classifications.
B
So
the
next
piece
of
the
puzzle
here
is
plan
development
districts,
so
currently
planned
development
districts
are
called
are
found
in
article
5,
which
is
not
in
the
draft
document
that
you
have
before
you,
but
we
are
adding
plan
development.
Mixed
use,
the
intent
of
that
plan
development
mixed
use
is
to
enable
developers
at
their
choosing
property
owners
at
their
choosing
to
use
the
provisions
of
the
form-based
code
outside
the
form-based
code
area
for
greenfield
development.
B
E
B
B
B
B
A
lot
in
building
standards,
parking
access,
standards,
building
composition
and
site
configuration
now.
The
actual
parking
requirements
for
any
of
these
building
types
is
again
housed
in
article
10,
which
we
know
needs
revisions.
So
this
is
just
about
where
on
the
site,
the
parking
should
be
located
and
how
it
should
be
accessible
is
what's
in
these
building
types
of
the
17
types,
there
are
some
primarily
residential
types
as
listed
under
that
category
and
then
mixed
use
and
non-residential
types.
As
listed
in
the
two
columns
there.
B
A
B
B
Otherwise
it
would
be
these
development
types,
so
these
building
types
now
what
goes
on
inside
of
these
buildings
as
long
as
they're
constructed
in
the
under
the
parameters
that
are
laid
out
in
the
in
the
code,
you
know
the
the
actual
uses
are
not
you
know
we're
not
telling
them
they
have
to
have.
You
know
office
on
the
second
floor
or
something
it's,
this
type
of
building
is
a
small
footprint
mixed
use.
Building
it
needs
to
be
x
by
y.
B
E
E
B
B
I
believe
of
the
existing
code,
and
it
is
a
mechanism
whereby
a
property
owner
can
request
special
consideration
for
their
project
directly
to
counsel
so
developers.
Agreements
are
typically
used
for
things
like
utilities
and
we
have
one.
You
know:
we've
had
them
in
the
past
for
other
things.
They
can
be
used
for
actual
development.
I
can
say
that
in
the
last
well,
since
2004
we've
had
none
for
actual,
like
vertical
construction
development.
B
D
B
A
G
B
B
That
are
the
part
two
those
have
yet
to
be
delivered.
We
did
not
want
to
overwhelm
you
with
everything
or
the
public.
Frankly,
with
everything
up
front,
we
wanted
to
get
through
these
major
changes
first
and
then
get
to
the
the
details
like.
Where
do
we
need
to
tweak
the
existing
code
because
there
are
no
sub?
There
are
no
major
changes
proposed
for
any
of
these
other
sections,
based
on
the
planning
to
date.
We
know
that
there
is
been
a
lot
of
discussion
recently
about
parking,
so
we
know
that
we.
I
D
Does
that
include
thank
you
dawn.
Does
that
include
then
say
forum
specifications
on
duplexes,
where
it
dress
parking
where
it
says
parking
shall
be
located
behind
the
front,
find
the
front
facade
of
the
building
and
access
from
alleys
and
streets
wherever
possible?
So
if
I
read
that
that
says
all
street
parking
is
or
on-site
parking
rather
is
required
right.
D
E
B
B
B
A
couple
of
requests
came
forward.
A
handful
of
requests
came
forward
for
these
waivers
for
for
new
construction,
and
the
board
said
yeah.
You
should
do
it
and
city
council
basically
was
like
we
don't
need,
and
we
don't
even
have
time
to
consider
that.
Just
if
you
say
it's,
okay,
it's
okay!
So
the
policy
decision,
internal,
like
administrative
policy
decision,
was
made
that
those
provisions
of
the
code
were
not
necessary
that
they
were
onerous
to
the
desire
for
the
community.
G
B
Have
driveways
same
thing,
the
policy
had
not
changed,
but
that
administrative
policy
had
not
changed
because
we
had
not
been
given
direction
to
change
it.
So,
yes,
we
can.
We
can
certainly
at
this
point
in
the
game,
go
back
to
requiring
the
waivers
for
for
the
elimination
of
off-site
parking
requirements
for
residential,
not
a
problem.
C
G
B
A
B
The
the
basically
the
the
what
happened
is
somebody
requested
it
and
I'm
going
off
of
memory
here.
I
have
not
actually
looked
at
the
at
the
formal
records
but,
as
I
recall,
the
an
applicant
or
applicants
requested
it
historic
preservation,
advisory
board
discussed
it.
They
said
well,
this
is
silly
we
should.
You
know
there
are
all
kinds
of
houses
that
don't
have
parking,
there's
plenty
of
parking
available
on
these
streets.
B
That
was
not
compliant
with
the
code
provisions
that
they
wanted
to
retain
because
they
were
just
knocking
down
the
house
not
tearing
up
their
driveway,
and
then
we
had
a
period
of
time
from
then
until
about
2011
2012
before
we
actually
started
seeing
new
construction
at
any
substantial
rate
in
these
areas.
So
there
was
a.
G
A
B
So,
just
based
on
the
current
conversation
in
this
room,
we
can
revert
to
the
code
as
written
and
then
the
next
time
we
get
somebody
who
requests
residential
construction
without
on-site
parking.
We
just
simply
require
them
to
petition
for
a
waiver,
take
them
to
historic
preservation,
advisory
board
and
then
to
city
council.
We
follow
the
code.
B
E
E
A
C
Until
you
run
into
parking
problems
and
you
run
into
the
results
of
neglect
right
and
how
do
we
stop
that,
I
mean
what
should
be
done,
we're
talking
about
it
and
a
lot
of
people
here
concerned
about
it,
and
I
also
have
had
several
inquiries
of
myself
and
others
about.
Okay,
is
this
all
going
to
it's
so
flexible?
Now
we
don't
understand
it.
It's
so
complicated.
C
B
B
The
reason
that
you're
finding
all
of
these
things
is
because
you
know
every
once
in
a
while.
You
need
to
break
open
your
code
and
find
out
what
doesn't
work
and
what
does
and
and
modify
it.
And
that's
that's
where
we're
at
we're
doing
what
you
should
be
doing.
If
you
go
to
other
municipalities
like,
I
think
I
think
the
city
of
fort
myers
outside
of
their
form-based
code
area,
they
haven't
changed
their
code
since,
like
the
70s,
so
everything's
by
you
know
a
variance
a
special
exception,
a
planned
development.
A
Okay,
so
you've
been
on
this
committee
for
nine
years,
I've
been
on
this
committee
for
seven
years.
There
have
been
so
many
things
that
have
come
before
this
committee,
where
it
was
just-
oh,
my
god,
that's
in
code
and
we've
talked
about
the
possibility
of
revising
or
rewriting
code
in
in
its
entirety
or
in
portions,
at
least
since,
as
long
as
I've
been
on
on
the
planning
committee,
because
these
things
it's
like
every
time,
you
turn
over
a
rock
there's
another
one.
A
You
know,
and-
and
some
of
them
are
very
very
specific-
some
of
them
are
like
this
sort
of
nebulous.
They
just
became
de
facto
policy.
Others
are
just
things
that
were
written
when
building
standards
or
something
else
was
different
and
there's
just
ridiculous
little
things
out
there
you
know,
involving
I
mean
we
almost
had
a
builder
one
day,
destroy
their
slab
because
they
were
one
inch
off
on
elevation
in
the
master
shower.
You
know
seriously,
but
this
is
the
kinds
of
things
that
are
buried
sometimes
deep
within
our
code.
B
D
D
B
Right,
so
so,
just
to
put
it
in
to
some
sort
of
perspective,
any
code
change
is
going
to
take
a
a
minimum
of
four
months
to
undertake
to
meet
all
the
public
hearing
requirements.
So
if
we
change
two
words
in
the
code,
it's
going
to
take
four
months.
If
we
change
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
code,
it's
going
to
take
four
months,
it's
best
to
wrap
up
as
much
as
you
can
into
one
page.
A
B
So
the
program
is
not
based
on
you
know
my
opinion
or
any
our
staff's
opinion
or
the
consultant's
opinion.
It's
really
based
on
the
planning
that
has
been
done
to
date,
and
it
is
also
based
on
things
that
are
existing
within
our
land
development
regulations.
Now
such
as
I
mentioned
article
5
plan
development,
things
that
are
in
section
8.2
the
development
agreements
and
section
3.17
medical
overlay,
so
the
intent
is
to
streamline
community
benefits
and
you
know
not
require
some
of
these
other
provisions
to
to
be
in
effect.
B
And
again,
this
is
just
a
draft
proposal
based
on
on
everything,
that's
in
the
code
and
everything
has
been
discussed
to
date.
If
anyone,
if
if
these
categories
are
okay,
you
know
if
this
is
a
comprehensive
list,
if
there's
anything
missing,
if
there's
anything
that
needs
to
be
added
or
anything
that
should
be
deleted,
that
we
should
not
consider
that
that
would
be
important
information
to
know.
At
this
point.
C
C
B
A
B
H
H
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
parking,
and
I
would
think
that
we
would
give
him
more
points
if
he
provided
charging
stations
with
the
parking,
for
example,
rather
than
just
parking,
because
I
think
that's
pretty
much
the
direction
we're
going
in
as
far
as
auto
traffic
goes.
The
other
thing
I
was
thinking
of
is
whether
we
want
to
incentivize
the
installation
of
energy
efficient,
fenestration
windows
and
doors.
Do
we
do
we
want
to
incentivize
that?
H
H
H
You
can
bet
your
life
that
their
energy
profiles
for
the
homes
that
are
being
built
out
there
are
very
tight
because
they
tend
to
solar
power,
the
whole
city,
so
they
have
to
be
tight.
I
also
when
I
looked
at
some
of
the
stuff.
They
have
some
building
types
out
there
that
don't
look
anything
like
the
ones
we've
got
listed.
Somebody
mentioned
creativity,
they've
got
some
cabin
style
homes
that
they're
building
out
there
beautiful
stuff,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
could
do
a
review
of
some
of
the
home
styles.
H
I
B
The
guy
behind
the
curtain,
no,
actually
it
should
say
in
all
places
where
it
says
administrator,
it
should
reference
the
urban
design
manager
or
their
designee.
So
that
would
either
be
the
urban
design
manager
or
the
zoning
official
would
be
the
administrator
referred
to.
But
we
try
to
keep
that
as
general
as
possible,
but
it
should
all
say
to
be
consistent
with
our
existing
codes.
Urban
design
management.
G
B
B
D
D
Badly
needed
yes
on
some
others.
However,
I
realize
that
there's
so
much
concern
and
feedback
from
the
public
about
community
benefits,
and
just
it's
some
on
some
left
side
would
say
it's
just
a
giveaway
for
contractors
and
developers
to
do
what
they
want
to
legally,
without
with
some
kind
of
a
token
gesture
or
offer,
and
on
the
other
end,
it
could
be
so
restrictive
that
it's
not
economically
feasible
or
even
reasonable
to
consider
a
community
even
trying
to
approach
or
adapt
to
that
community
benefit
for
the
for
the
benefit
of
the
community.
A
So
so
so,
without
necessarily
jumping
into
parking
again
and
before
that
discussion
ever
started
on
this
one.
When
we
started
talking
about
public
waterfront,
recreation,
boating
amenities
and
discussing
accessible
boat
slips
and
dinghy,
docks,
etc,
said:
okay,
anybody
who's
going
to
launch
their
boat's
gonna
need
a
place
to
park.
Their
truck
and
trailer
parking
needs
to
be
part
and
parcel
to
boat
slips.
A
B
B
Yeah,
so
this
is
this
is
about
the
production
of
marinas
in
essentially,
you
have
two
parcels
that
that
are
private,
that
have
the
capacity
to
build
marinas
that
don't
have
them
currently
plus
the
event
center
cycle.
So
it's
three
potential
marina
locations
additionally
fisherman's
village
may
have
the
capacity
to
take
advantage
of
some
of
that
as
a
fourth
potential
site
that
we
might
see
additional
waterfront
access
boat
slips
day.
Docks
dingy,
docks,
paddle
craft
launches
our
upland
facilities
for
boaters.
E
D
Hospital
use-
I
put
I
like
the
provision-
that's
in
there
now
it
allows.
Of
course
we
have
to
correct
that
to
to
the
new
hospital
name
and
the
name
of
the
new
name
of
the
hospital,
but
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
good
benefit
for
those
who
may
not
be
aware
a
number
of
years
ago
was
when
it
was
charlotte
regional
medical
center
before
it
changed
names
so
many
times
there
was
a
proposal
to
build
a
medical
tower.
D
B
D
Cardiac
care:
well,
it
was
turned
down
because
of
the
height
of
the
tower
and
the
hospital
built
that
tower
in
port
charlotte
and
it's
a
terrific
facility
not
that
I've
personally
used,
but
I've
been
visiting
other
people,
it's
a
terrific
facility,
and
for
that
purpose
that
could
have
been
in
punta
gorda,
providing
for
south
county
residents
having
immediate,
almost
on-site
in
town,
cardiac
care.
They
went
elsewhere.
D
H
A
A
D
A
A
H
But
building
heights
I
get
confused
and
of
course,
at
my
age
I
get
easily
confused
anyway,
but
in
any
event,
I
thought
we
were
talking
about
80
feet
right
for
medical,
for
the
medical
overlay
district
with
with
community
benefits,
we're
talking
about
80
feet.
But
then
I
go
to
article
3,
page
42,
and
it
says,
with
community
benefits
of
100
feet,.
B
B
B
B
Okay,
so
again
the
community
benefits
there's
two.
So
the
list
of
community
benefits
and
associated
points
values.
Those
are
the
things
that
we
as
a
as
a
community,
are
receiving
based
on
development.
What
are
the
developers
getting
in
exchange
for
those
things
and
the
two
things
that
that
we're
proposing
is
that
they
they
could
receive
additional
residential
density.
So
this
is
increasing
the
the
number
of
units
per
acre,
so
the
downtown
core.
For
instance,
it's
proposed
to
be
40
units
an
acre
under
community
benefits.
B
So,
let's
see
here,
what's
what's
an
easy:
what's
an
easy
one
to
see
that
difference
in
the
in
the
downtown
core.
Excuse
me
in
the
medical
overlay
that
80
foot
height
maximum
that's
only
for
mixed-use
buildings,
which
could
be
all
hospital
use,
so
that
would
be
civic,
but
it's
limited
to
50
feet
for
some
residential
use
like
a
courtyard
apartment,
which
is
a
large
format,
apar
multi-family
or
for
a
liner
building
a
liner
building
is
a
building
type
that
basically
hides
a
parking
garage.
D
B
So,
under
the
current
provisions
as
drafted,
there
is
no
minimum,
and
that
is
certainly
something
that
could
be
added.
We
could
add
a
minimum
lot
size
or
a
minimum
building
size
to
consider
those
additional
heights,
and-
and
that's
that's
certainly
some
detail
that
we
could
add
to
the
draft,
but
it's
not
currently
in
there
now.
B
B
So
there's
there's
a
footprint
requirement
for
I
think
there
is.
I
need
to
verify
that,
but
yeah
there
there's.
Certainly
we
could
limit
it
to
something
like
a
half
a
block.
We
know
the
the
original
bladder
blocks
of
record
or
you
know
well.
I
ran
out
four
and
a
half
acres,
so
we
could
limit
it
to
half
of
that
and
that
way
you
don't
get
a
tiny.
D
B
B
So
a
developer
is
going
to
do
the
math
and
say
I
need
this
many
parking
spaces
in
order
to
make
this
building
work,
sure
and
they're
going
to
have
to
find
a
way
to
build
it,
regardless
of
what
it
says
in
the
code
in
a
lot
of
codes
in
the
country,
you
see,
the
codes
are
so
outrageously
high
in
terms
of
the
parking
demand
that
you're
actually
limiting
the
development.
By
virtue
of
of
a
parking
requirement.
B
D
B
B
But
the
primary
where
the
rubber
hits
the
road
is
based
on
those
building
types.
You
know.
If
I
want
to
build
a
a
single
family,
a
house
and
an
accessory
cottage.
I
need
to
figure
out
what
those
are
in
those
building
types
and
then
figure
out
what
the
requirements
are,
and
it's
also
going
to
tell
me
that
I
have
architectural
provisions
that
are
required
so
step
three.
B
I
got
to
go
to
the
architectural
provisions
and
see
what
their
requirements
are
there
and
look
through
those
pieces.
So
you're
really
following
it
like
a
choose,
your
own
adventure,
novel
that
were
popular
for
little
kids.
When
I
was
a
little
kid
where
you
know
you
get
to
page
three,
and
it
tells
you
to
turn
to
page
27
or
page
17,
and
then
you
go
to
that
page.
B
B
B
It's
got
31,
000,
plus
or
minus
square
feet
of
of
commercial
space
office
and
retail,
and
it's
got
25
dwelling
units
and
it's
got
parking
because
I
know
I
need
to
park
somewhat
some
of
my
customers
at
least
I
know
I
need
to
park
all
of
my
office
and
all
of
my
employees-
and
I
know
I
need
to
park
all
the
residential
I'm
also
building
on
a
gray
field
site
an
existing
parking
lot.
So
I
need
to
accommodate
all
of
their
existing
parking.
The
bank
of
america
building
currently
has
58
parking
spaces,
that's
it
so.
B
B
Well,
I
can
convert
those
10
points
into
additional
dwellings
because
hey
residential's
hot,
so
I
cut
down
on
my
office
space
because
that
market's
not
as
good
theoretically
and
now
I
have
a
parking
demand
based
on
everything
of
about
214
spaces.
So
that's
good!
So
now
I
can
squeeze
everything
that
I
need
to
squeeze
in
there
in
there
and
still
give
up
the
space.
B
B
B
B
H
They're
all
very
parking
they're
all
visible,
because
I
have
a
neighbor
who
was
a
builder
and
developer.
He
came
over
to
see
me
for
about
15
minutes
and
I
rang
me
about
the
form-based
codes
and
and
and
he
thought
this
community
benefits
program
involved
money,
and
I
said
no,
it
involves
visible
community
benefits.
B
Yes,
yes,
there's
no
consideration
for
money
or
or
those
types
of
things
it
is
is
actual
stuff
that
needs
to
be
constructed
or
changed.
The
only
intangible
things
is
really
like
the
subsidy
for
our
cultural
space
and
that's
subsidized
rent.
But
again
the
community
is
benefiting
by
virtue
of
those
arts
and
cultural
institutions
having
home
potentially
and
then
the
other
one
is
the
workforce
housing
and
we
benefit
there
as
a
public
by
having
employees
to
serve
us
dinner
or
take
care
of
us
in
the
hospital.
A
Okay,
so
you
mentioned
arts
and
cultural
and
that's
another
area
that
says
affordable,
non-profit
and
arts
and
cultural
space.
Yes,
who
makes
that
determination
and
is
like
the
atelier?
Is
that
arts
and
cultural,
or
is
that
a
non-profit?
Are
you
just
talking?
501S
you
know
is:
is
pgi
ca,
a
non-profit
or
the
museum
or.
B
B
Meeting
the
requirements
of
this
section
shall
be
approved
by
the
zoning
code,
compliance
department,
which
should
be
urban
design,
division
and
the
city
attorney
prior
to
recording.
So
that
is
a
recorded
document,
so
then
it
would
be,
it
would
carry
with
the
land.
So,
even
if
it
was
sold
to
a
new
developer,
they
would
be
bound
by
those
provisions
and.
B
No,
no,
no,
and-
and
that's
that's
not
the
anticipation
here,
so
this
is
a
first
draft.
This
is
just
for
discussion.
There's,
there's
no
public
hearing
here,
we're
not
making
any
formal
action
on
these
documents.
All
we're
doing
is
having
a
discussion
which
will
feed
into
a
discussion
that
will
be
held
by
city
council,
hopefully
in
march,
at
the
16th
meeting,
based
on
those
discussions,
we
will
then
make
revisions
to
the
document
at
the
at
the
staff
and
consultant
level
and
then
that
revised.
I
B
Further
away
from
the
community's
intent
and
then
so
that's
months
of
process,
because
we're
looking
at
april
may
at
that
point,
then,
if
there
are
still
if
we
are
missing
the
mark,
which
is
entirely
possible,
then
we
got
to
go
back
and
revise
it
again,
and
hopefully
third
time's
a
charm,
and
we
get
to
a
document
when
we
pass
it
through
these
discussions,
everybody
goes
yeah.
We
think
we've
we've
gotten
there.
B
E
Again
remember
this
is
just
article
3
and
article
7.
once
we
get
a
little
bit
further
down
the
line
and
we
think
that
we're
ready
for
what
will
in
essence,
be
a
final
draft
in
the
process
of
that
remember.
Once
we
get
this
foundation
done,
we
still
have
to
go
back
and
do
all
of
those
other
articles,
so
you
will
slowly
start
to
get
all
of
those
other
other
articles
as
well.
E
E
So
once
the
form-based
codes
are
at
a
point
that
we
are
at
final
draft
on
the
entire
package,
you
will
also
get
the
revisions
for
the
comprehensive
plan
to
make
sure
they
match
now.
You've
already
seen
them.
Council
has
already
seen
them.
However,
we
have
made
significant
changes
to
the
land
development
regulations
that
are
going
to
require
some
tweaks
to
the
comprehensive
plan
drafts,
so
you'll
get
those
as
well.
So
once
we're
at
a
point
where
they're
all
final
drafts,
we
will
start
the
public
hearing
process
in
the
public
hearing
process.
E
It
becomes
before
city
council.
So
you
will
get
the
comprehensive
plan
amendment
in
the
entire
form
based
code,
which
includes
the
entire
rewrite
of
chapter
3,
chapter
7
and
all
those
other
minor
modifications
all
in
one
package
from
there
city
council
will
get
it
as
a
first
reading
public
hearing
that
type
of
stuff
we'll
need
to
stop
the
land
development
regulations.
At
that
point,
because
we
have
to
transmit
the
comprehensive
plan
to
the
state
to
get
state
review,
and
that
takes
another
31
days
for
that,
then
they
can
have
their
second
reading
and
adoption.
E
B
D
From
not
only
the
commissioners
but
from
the
public,
and
they
enumerate
that,
hopefully
in
a
list
and
when
we
come
back
in
april
for
the
second
draft,
we
might
be
able
to
hopefully
be
able
to
reference
those
items
to
where
they
are
addressed
in
any
any
revision
exactly
or
not
addressed
yeah.
What
could
I
an
audit
trail
if
you
will.
H
I'd
like
to
make
a
suggestion
mitch
a
lot
of
this
stuff
see,
I
grew
up
in
the
submarine
business,
so
I
know
a
lot
about
specifications,
but
a
lot
of
this
stuff
seems
to
me
belongs
in
a
manual
rather
than
in
code,
and
the
manual
is
referenced
in
the
code.
For
example,
why
couldn't
you
create
an
architectural
standards
and.
H
You
know
an
architectural
standards
manual
that
now
contains
all
those
pictures
of
porticos
and
balconies,
and
you
know
posts,
and
god
knows
what
else,
and
that
manual
becomes
referenced
in
your
regulation,
so
that
you
separate
the
technical
nitty-gritty
of
the
architectural
styles
from
the
key
issues,
which
is
how
much
parking
are
you
going
to
provide
how
much
tall?
How
tall
are
these
buildings
going
to
be?
H
You
know,
yadda
yadda
ins
and
the
community
benefits
program
which
I
agree
would
have
to,
and
and
also
your
your
housing
issues
that
you're
gonna
you
almost
have
to
put
in
code,
but
all
of
the
details
that
we
have
within
this
document
now,
which
concern
the
architectural
styles
and
all
that
stuff
to
me
that
belongs
in
a
manual
with
chapters
that
says
this
chapter
covers
this
subject.
This
chapter
covers
this
subject.
This
chapter
covers
this
subject.
H
This
chapter
covers
this
subject
and
then,
once
that
manual
is
constructed,
it's
referenced
in
the
code
as
being
the
applicable
standard
for
those
those
things
when
we,
when
we
lost
the
thresher,
we
had
to
do
a
complete
rewrite
of
what
we
had
to
do
for
the
submarine
safety
program.
We
put
it
in
a
manual.
H
If
you
wanted
to
include
a
new
architectural
style,
for
example,
that
would
be
revision
whatever
you
then
change
the
reference
to
accommodate
that
it
would
simplify
things
to
me
because
a
lot
of
this
stuff,
really
the
public,
is
not
going
to
absorb
they're,
just
not
going
to
absorb
it,
and
it's
just
cluttering
up
the
issues
that
they
are
concerned
about,
which
is
parking
and
building
heights
and
community
benefits.
Those
are
the
three
things
they
really
are
going
to
jump
through
hoops
on
and
and
the
rest
of
it.
H
B
B
As
as
a
planner,
I
can
say
that
unless
it's
in
the
land
development
regulations,
its
its
enforceability,
is
significantly
weakened.
Currently,
in
the
code,
the
architectural
provisions
for
architectural
styles,
specifically,
it
references
a
document
that
is
not
in
the
that
is
not
codified
in
ordinance
and
essentially,
we
cannot
enforce
it.
B
G
G
To
add
to
paul's
point,
though
I
mean
whether
it's
a
manual
or
what
have
you,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
when
we,
when
we
come
to
some
point
where
we
can
have
something
up
front.
That
says
in
plain
english,
what
is
this
addressing
you
know?
How
does
this
improve
where
we
are
today,
so
that
people
understand
why
this
is
important?
G
I
mean
what
what
changes
have
we
made
that
should
make
it?
You
know
more
easier
for
a
developer
to
come
and
build.
Something
should
make
sure
that
we
have
some
sense
of
harmony
of
styles
across
our
neighborhoods.
Maybe
that's
my
corporate
communications
background,
but
I
I
do
think
something
up
front.
That
kind
of
just
lays
it
out,
because
otherwise
this
is
you
know
this
is
this
is
really
heavy
slogging,
yes,
as
presented
okay,
so
I
just
think
a
little
a
little
packaging
would
be
very
helpful
to
get
people
to
understand
what
it
is.
G
Yeah
but
again
just
to
say,
what's
what's
new
and
improved
instead
of
it
just
looks
like
how
did
we
complicate
it
more?
You
know,
aside
from
really
making
sure
we
address
the
things
that
people
obviously
care
about,
and
I
do
think
it
is
parking
and
building
nights
and
getting
something
done
downtown.
B
G
G
G
G
Okay,
well
speaking
for
myself,
I
want
to
say
that
I
really
am
impressed
with
the
amount
of
work
and
detail
that
has
been
done.
I
understand
it's
a
very
challenging
endeavor
but,
as
harvey
said,
it's
super
important
to
the
city
and
we
are
all
supportive
of
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
so
just
just
know
that
we
will
be
certainly,
I
will
be
an
advocate
for
the
work
going
forward
and
I
think,
as
you
say,
there's
always
time
for
some
adjustments,
but
I
think
directionally
we're
on
the
right
path.
Yeah.
D
The
input
that
we
get
from
these
wonderful
people
that
take
their
time
and
effort
to
think
about
it
and
come
make
comments
and
suggestions
on
the
same
thing,
they're
trying
to
do
the
same
thing.
We
are
okay
and
to
help
you
and
help
help
the
terrific
folks
and
city
staff
who
have
been
noticeably
quiet
today.
C
Brad
yeah.
I
would
also
like
to
compliment
mitchell.
I
think
we're
our
city
is
blessed
with
the
staff
that
we
have
and
mitchell
you've
been
there
for
two
hours
virtually
or
an
hour
and
a
half
and
but
I've
seen
two
hours,
but
I've
seen
other
members
of
the
staff.
It's
not
just
mitchell.
They
always
seem
to
find
time
to
answer
questions
and
listen
to
what
you
have
to
say.
I
respect
that
and
I've
been
places
where
that
is
not
the
case.
C
C
H
H
G
H
Excuse
me,
the
code
enforcement
board
had
diagram
the
whole
process
of
what
happens
when
you
start
with
a
violation
you
know,
and
whether
it's
from
one
of
the
code
enforcement
officers
or
whether
it's
from
a
citizen,
it
walks
you
through
diagrammatically
all
of
the
steps
that
you
go
through
till
the
final
step
of
a
lien
being
placed
on
the
property,
something
like
that
which
you
could
diagram
for
the
builder
or
developer,
to
take
them
through
the
process
of
the
phone-based
codes
would
be
terrific.
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
great
thing.
B
E
B
New
provisions,
it's
section
7.1
applicability
and
modifications,
and
then
section
7.2
architectural
standards,
which
is
the
main
body
of
the
of
the
document
within
7.2.
There
are
five
subsections
special
building
standards.
Those
are
relocated
from
the
existing
article.
Seven,
there
are
no
changes
in
that
other
than
renumbering
them
to
fit
in
the
new
draft,
so
the
first
section
is
general
building
standards,
and
this
is
broken
up
into
all
of
these
subsections.
B
What
I
will
say
about
this
is
this
is
basically
architecture
101,
like
traditional
architecture,
101,
what
how
buildings
should
be
composed
throughout
the
20th
century,
beginning
about
in
the
middle
of
the
20th
century.
We
changed
the
way
we
build
buildings,
because
we
were
building
them
for
suburbia
and
we're
building
them
for
automobile
speed,
not
for
human
speed,
which
is,
is
walking
so
the
the
character
of
the
architecture
changed
significantly
and
how
buildings
address
the
street.
Mainly
they
address
parking
lots
in
america
now.
B
B
B
B
These
are,
there
are
16
different
types.
They
can
be
used
independently
or
in
combination.
Some
of
them
are
specifically
to
be
used
in
combination
with
others,
so
those
frontage
types
really
define
how
each
individual
building
type
should
address
the
street.
The
frontage
types
are
by
building
type
and
also
some
architectural
styles
they're
permitted
or
encouraged
and
some
others.
They
may
not
be
available,
because
it's
not
consistent
with
that
architectural
style
and
then
the
architectural
styles.
B
B
So,
as
currently
listed,
the
the
current
code
says
commercial
vernacular,
it
doesn't
say,
mainstream
vernacular,
so
it
was
reviewed
under
those
parameters
and
the
current
code
in
this
draft
it
would
be
reviewed
under
masonry,
modern
or
mid-century
modern,
depending
on
how
they
addressed
these
frontage
types.
Now,
the
this
is
the
big
difference
between
the
the
spring
hill
suites,
the
way
it
sits
today
and
the
way
it
would
have
to
address
the
streets.
The
street
under
these
architectural
considerations,
is
the
how
it
has
an
entry
canopy
how
it
you
know.
G
B
Yes,
and
so
that
that
those
are
the
the
sections
that
cover
architectural
styles,
I
do
want
to
mention
the
mural
society
did
kelly
gaylord
represented
representative
from
the
mural
society
did
mention
that
there's
nothing
in
there
that
addresses
murals
and
from
what
I
took
away
from.
That
is
that
we
need
to
go
in
there
and
look
at
the
at
the
provisions
of
article
seven
to
make
sure
that
there's
some
reasonable
accommodation
for
potential
mural
locations
and
then
also
to
look
at
the
building
types
to
see.
B
G
H
I
wouldn't
want
to
put
blank
walls
up
and
then
not
have
any
murals
right.
So
the
problem
with
that
is
that
when
you
put
the
blank
walls
up
and
nobody
puts
any
mural
on
it,
then
you've
defeated
the
purpose
you
know
so
so,
unless
there's
a
contract
for
a
mural
on
that
wall
at
the
time
the
building
is
put
up.
H
B
H
I
had
one
another
comment:
you
have
a
lot
of
different
heights
between
balconies
and
porticos
and
other
different
things,
and
I
couldn't
figure
out
why,
for
one
you
had
a
nine
foot,
height
minimum
and
another
one
that
was
seven
foot
and
another
one.
It
was
eight
foot,
I
mean
it
was
kind
of
all
over
the
map
and
they
all
seem
to
be
kind
of
like
the
same
thing.
How
how
tall
do
you
want
this?
This
structure?
B
Yes,
yes,
we
can.
We
can
definitely
review
those.
Some
of
those
are
directly
related
to
these
are
projections
over
over
the
entrance
that
would
be
for
residential,
primarily
versus
commercial,
so
that
that
may
be
some
of
the
difference,
but
yeah.
We
definitely
need
to
we'll
drill
in
and
take
a
deeper
look
at
that
and
make
sure
that
we're
being
consistent,
and
we
just
have
two
numbers.
D
B
We
need
a
way
to
make
it
look
like
it
kind
of
fits
and
your
code
as
drafted
doesn't
really
accommodate
that
which
it
didn't.
So
that's
why
this
section
is
in
there.
The
other
piece
of
the
puzzle
that
he's
concerned
about
is
really
architectural
creativity
and
in
terms
of
the
10
architectural
styles
that
are
listed
there.
If
you
can't
find
something
you
like
you,
probably
don't
like
buildings,
I
don't
know,
I
mean
that's
pretty
much.
Everything
that
that
we
would
see
here
in
in
south
florida
can
be
accommodated
through
that.