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Punta Gorda Isles Canal Advisory Committee 03-21-2022
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C
Currently,
our
office
is
at
deputy
deputy
city
clerk,
sarah
welch
for
the
record.
Currently
our
office
is
going
through
and
doing
a
review
of
all
the
city's
committees
and
board
bylaws,
and
at
this
point
we
are
ready
to
present
yours.
This
is
the
presentation
that
will
be
made
to
city
council
as
well.
We
have
an
overview
of
the
board.
Everyone
should
be
fairly
familiar
with
it.
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A
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C
C
Well,
our
thoughts
were
simply.
This
is
what
we
do
recommend
and
then,
if
you
had
further
input,
if
you
were
not
happy
with
the
change
we
proposed,
then
we
could
consider
altering
it
or
presenting
to
council
that
the
board
would
like
to
make
a
recommendation
that
something
be
done
differently.
We
have
presented,
burnt,
store
aisles
at
this
point,
and
those
have
been
approved
by
the
board
and
by
city
council
will
be
proceeding
with
drafting
their
resolution
shortly.
C
So
if
there
is
anything
you
want
changed,
we
are
trying
to
make
the
bylaws
more
consistent
among
all
of
our
boards
and
committees.
So
if
there
is
something
that
is
seen
as
problematic,
it
would
be
nice
to
know
sooner
rather
than
later
that
way.
If
it's
something
that
should
apply
to
them
as
well,
we
could
make
sure
that's
captured
in
their
bylaws
too.
A
And
in
looking
at
what
I
think
burnt
store
act,
what
their
action
was,
although
I
didn't
read
it
quite
as
clearly
as
perhaps
I
should
have
it
parallels
this,
I
mean
there's
a
pretty
I
did.
They
didn't
recommend
much
change
as
far
as
I
could
tell,
and
yet
we
have
mr
knobby's
comment
here,
which
is
a
change
of
it.
It
changes
what
we
do
without
actually
changing
it.
A
Would
it
be
appropriate,
for
example,
in
this
procedure
to
reference
the
procedure
on
quasi-judicial
hearings,
so
that
that
is
the
governing
body
of
the
governing
principle
by
which
we
operate
and
it
ca
it's
a
lot
longer
than
what
would
be
in
here,
and
so
that
might
be
a
place
to
catch
any
of
those
loose
ends.
We.
A
G
E
What
would
be
the
the
process
now?
We've
we've
recommended
that
something
be
added
in
here
to
clear
things
up,
you're
going
to
take
it
to
the
city.
You
discuss
it.
You
agree
that
you're
going
to
do
it
and
then
make
a
change
and
then
you're
going
to
send
that
back
to
us
to
review
and
approve
electronically,
perhaps
or
or
does
it
have
to
wait
until
the
april
meeting.
C
C
E
No
I'm
very
comfortable
with
it.
I
went
through
it
thought
it
was
very
well
done
and
it
wasn't
confusing
to
me
as
a
like.
Like
you
said,
I
I
thought
something
disappeared,
but
then
I
found
it
later
right,
so
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
it.
I
think
the
addition
of
what
of
what
the
chair
has
said
would
be
a
positive
change
to
to
the
amended
bylaws.
A
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C
E
A
C
A
A
C
A
B
B
Okay
utilization
report,
as
you
can
see,
the
only
thing
we
really
got
happening
is
sea
wall
replacement,
I'm
anticipating
the
mangrove
trimming
to
start
in
april
and
we're
not
going
to
do
any
dredging
of
the
inlets.
Until
this
summer
we've
had
quite
a
busy
winter
lots
and
lots
of
visitors,
so
we
didn't
want
to
block
any
of
the
inlets,
so
we'll
be
doing
the
dredging
this
summer.
Okay,
that's
the
plan.
Anyways.
B
Okay,
you
will
notice
that
we've
taken
that
second
project
and
pushed
it
to
next
fiscal
year.
That's
the
sancho
ponzi
court.
We've
already
contacted
the
property
owners
and
they
are
good
with
it.
So
this
particular
project
was
not
as
urgent
and
was
able
to
be
moved.
So
so,
just
due
to
some
emergency
repairs
and
some
overages,
we
had
to
move
a
couple
projects
forward.
A
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G
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B
Yeah,
I
didn't
think
we
needed.
I
apologize
for
the
newer
members.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
last
march
we
had
a
sea
wall
assessment
study,
and
this
is
the
study
that
we
adopted.
If
you
do
not
have
a
copy
of
this,
let
me
know
I
can
print
a
copy
for
you,
but
we
are
basing
our
our
work
program
off
of
their
of
the
recommendations
that
this
particular
committee
approved.
We
did
not
approve
all
of
their
recommendations
and
we
modified
some
so
we'll
just
go
over
some
of
that
really
quick.
B
So
whenever
we
saw
that
there
was
a
water
line
crack
in
a
seawall,
we
rated
it
rather
high.
So
in
this
particular
report
here
you're
going
to
see
your
fives,
so
let
me
back
up
a
little
bit
zero,
your
rated
zero,
where
it
says
calculated
cap
condition.
Your
rated
zero
is
a
brand
new,
fairly
new
wall
or
cap,
and
a
five
is
a
failed
okay.
Anything
in
between
so
like
a
one
is
in
good
condition.
No
cracking
no
spalling
a
two.
B
You
might
have
some
minor
cracking
a
three
you're
going
to
have
more
severe
cracking
things
that
we
monitor
for
is
serious,
cracking
still,
monitoring
eligible
for
the
next
work
program
and
a
five
is
a
failure.
Failure
could
be
the
wall
is
in
the
is
in
the
canal,
or
several
large
chunks
of
the
cap
is
missing,
or
something
like
that.
We
actually
ran
into
a
sea
wall
this
year,
where
the
the
cracks
in
the
wall
were
like
an
inch
and
a
half
inch
and
a
half
thick
wide.
B
A
B
Yes,
yes,
yes,
we're
actually
collecting
more
detailed
information
instead
of
just
saying.
Oh,
my
gosh,
that's
just
an
ugly
wall.
It's
stained!
It's
all
aggregate
blah
blah
we're
actually
giving
a
depth
of
the
delamination,
so
we're
collecting
more
detailed
information.
This
report
here
today,
I
think,
is
a
snapshot
of
more
number
five
walls
and
what
we've
had
in
years
past.
A
A
B
And
unfortunately,
this
year
I
was
able
to
experience
a
sea
wall
assessment.
I
learned
a
lot
got
to
see
a
lot
and
it
was
quite
an
experience.
It
was
quite
an
eye
opener
for
me,
so
when
I'm
able
to
look
at
these
numbers
and
and
after
we
collect
all
this
data,
mr
disher
does
a
post-processing
and
he
comes
up
and
he
spits
out
these
reports
of
these
are
the
these
are
the
priority
of
the
seawall
replacements.
B
You
need
to
do
in
the
next
following
years,
and
then
we
take
that
and
we
we
look
at
a
map
and
we
go
okay.
We've
got
an
irma
wall
on
both
sides.
Let's
close
that
gap.
Maybe
if
we
had
like
a
four
wall
as
opposed
to
a
five
wall,
we
apply
all
these
different
factors,
as
opposed
to
putting
together
the
work
program.
B
No
problem,
what
I
do
want
to
say
is
the
reason
why
we're
having
this
conversation
today
is
because
we're
starting
we're
start
we're
planting
the
seed
today
about
our
budget.
Okay.
So
what
you
can
expect
in
april
is
we're
going
to
have
like
a
little
budget
workshop,
we're
going
to
talk
about
our
projects.
B
We're
going
to
talk
about
our
assessment
results,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
things
that
you
guys
want
to
accomplish
and
then
in
may
we're
going
to
review
and
approve
the
budget,
but
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
have
a
budget
workshop,
invite
the
public
to
it.
Okay,
so
so
that
is
our
plan.
Okay,
we
figure
if
we
took
it
on
a
step-by-step
process.
It's
a
lot
to
absorb
and
it's
a
lot
to
discuss
in
one
meeting.
B
No
we're
going
to
talk
about
that
in
our
next
meeting.
We're
going
to
come
up
we're
going
to
give
you
a
couple
different
options
you
could
with
with
this
with
current
contract
rates.
This
is
how
many
lineal
feet
of
seawall.
You
can
expect
to
replace
this
year
if
you
increase
it
by
fifty
dollars.
You'll
get
this.
If
you
replace,
if
you
increase
your
assessments
by
a
hundred
dollars,
you
get
this.
If
you
want
to
leave
it
the
same
and
perhaps
finance
a
project,
you
know
you
can
do
that.
A
For
the
new
members,
just
a
little
more
of
a
timeline
here,
we
actually
started
looking
at
the
taylor
study
in
draft
form
in
may
of
2020,
and
we're
asked
to
comment
on
it,
and
that
was
supposed
to
be
back
by
the
end
of
july.
We
then
had
a
presentation
in
september
from
taylor
engineering,
and
we
then
discussed
it
then
discussed
it
in
october
and
came
up
with
recommendations
based
on
staff
recommendations
on
two
elements,
two
big
elements,
one
of
which
was
the
materials
and
the
engineering
used,
which
we
endorsed.
A
What
staff
said
and
the
assessment
rate,
which
is
what
we're
talking
about
with
respect
to
budget,
and
our
recommendation
at
that
time
was
countered
by
what
we
thought
council
would
accept,
not
necessarily
what
taylor
was
recommending
taylor
as
you'll
read.
If
you
haven't
read,
it
already
had
a
very
large
increase
in
the
need
to
replace
sea
walls
to
catch
up
with
the
service
life
of
the
wall,
not
today,
but
it's
coming,
and
we
need
to
start
paying
for
it
now,
so
we
don't
have
to
pay
for
it
all
at
once,
so
we
recommended
150
increase.
A
We've
said
it
really
should
be
more,
but
we
don't
think
anybody
will
accept
more.
We
recommended
150
increase
over
the
then
550
assessment
that
then
went
to,
but
we
said,
but
there's
going
to
have
to
be
incremental
assessment
after
that
in
its
subsequent
years.
In
order
to
catch
up
to
what
we're
talking
about
here,
council
looked
at
it
and
accepted
the
materials
and
process
bit
but
said
they
were
going
to
kick
it
back
to
us
for
education
if
you
will
or
further
public
input
which
did
not
happen.
A
So
now
we're
again
at
a
point
where
that
could
happen,
we're
we're
inviting
the
public
to
the
meeting
in
april.
But
I'm
wondering
what
really
is
going
to
happen
in
that
meeting
in
april.
If
the
public
they
haven't,
read
the
taylor
report,
there's
no,
it's
complicated
as,
as
we
all
know,
to
expect
the
public
to
understand
why
we're
saying
it
should
be
acts
when
they
don't
have.
A
Any
of
the
background
suggests
to
me
that
we
need
to
gear
up
somehow
in
that
workshop,
to
do
more
of
a
presentation
on
the
the
tailor
elements
the
why
we
need
to
increase
that
assessment
going
forward
and
if
the
tailor
said
it's
going
to
we're
we're
going
to
have
to
pay
the
piper
pretty
soon
the
new
assessment
process.
The
new
survey
process
is
only
going
to
make
that
even
worse.
So
so
is
there
some
plan
in
place
to
do
not
just
a
workshop
on
the
budget,
but
a
full
presentation
on
what
taylor
found?
B
A
B
Yes,
okay,
because
that
was
count
one
of
council's
biggest
concerns
is
we
didn't
do
a
lot
of
public
outreach.
We
didn't
have
time
to
do
a
lot
of
public
outreach.
So
that's
why
we're
starting
that
process
now?
Okay,
so
we
figure
by
inviting
them
to
the
next
two
meetings
or
making
them
aware
putting
advertisements
in
the
newspaper,
I'm
working
with
melissa
reichart
to
do
some
pr
stuff
to
put
articles
in
the
newspaper
and
stuff
like
that.
B
A
B
A
Spent
then
it's
not
on
your
shoulders.
You
know,
I
thought
I
thought
the
september
presentation.
I
can't
remember
her
name
but
was
helpful
because
she
was
speaking
to
her
data
and
we're
basing
a
lot
of
this,
particularly
the
rate
at
which
we
replay
replace
on
their
information.
So
unless
you're
willing
to
speak
to
it
and
not
suffer
the
slings
and
arrows.
B
B
A
B
A
B
G
G
B
Typically,
we
assessed
a
property
from
property
line
to
property
line
or
when
there
was
a
condition
change
say
all
of
a
sudden.
We
had
a
bunch
of
cracking
that
happened
or
a
cap
had
spalled.
Then
we
would
drop
a
point
there
if
there
was
a
mangrove
that
was
blocking
our
view,
something
like
that.
So
it
was
either
a
condition
change
or
we
went
from
property
line
to
property
line.
Condominiums
were
tough,
you
know
we
would
drop.
We
would
drop
points
every
so
often,
probably
four
or
five
points
around
a
condominium.
G
G
A
Do
you
additionally
have
this?
I
see
that
the
total
number
with
the
mmfx
and
the
epoxy
and
unknown,
which
I
assume
is
either
unknown
or
original
wall
right.
Do
you
have
that
broken
down
by
the
the
conditions,
so
that
you
could
do
a
full
spread
that
the
the
epoxy
coated
or
zero
to
five
or
how
many
feet
etc?
So
would
be
another
another
part
of
the
matrix?
I.
F
A
G
And
then
we've,
as
you
can
see,
that's
our
new
system,
we're
going
on
a
blended,
a
blended
deal.
It
used
to
be
where
the
cap
lived
alone
and
then
the
wall
lived
alone
and
we
would
run
a
query
and
say:
okay,
give
me
all
the
number
five
walls
it
didn't
matter
if
it
had
a
zero
cap
on
it
or
a
one
cap
on
it
that
cued
into
the
replacement.
G
G
B
B
If
it's
completing
a
seawall,
we
have
some
canals
that
are
fully
restored,
which
is
nice
to
have.
You
know,
that's
always
another
thing
that
we
like
to
look
at.
We
also
from
work
orders.
We
get
a
lot
of
people
that
call
in
work
orders.
Please
come
and
inspect
my
sea
wall.
I
think
some
things
happen,
blah
blah
blah.
We
go
out
there.
We
already
have
a
living
list
right
now
of
sea
walls
that
we're
going
to
replace
that
are
in
bad
condition,
just
from
phone
calls.
So
we
incorporate
those
into
this.
B
Obviously
we're
not
going
to
replace
all
these
number
five
sea
walls
next
fiscal
year,
so
we
have
to
figure
out.
Do
we
do
the
smaller
ones?
Hey?
I
only
have
36
lineal
feet
here.
You
know
I
don't
want
to
do
this
whole
80
foot.
You
know
sea
wall
replacements
if
I
only
have
36
foot
of
seawall
damaged
sea
wall
and
it
might
be
a
four
rated.
That's
a
serious
crack
where
I
might
have
a
sea
wall.
That's
85
ft
damage
it's
a
five
or
whatever
we
take
all
that
into
consideration.
B
Mr
disher
has
has
developed
this
program
where
he's
assigned
a
value
to
each
type
of
damage.
So,
like
I
said,
the
water,
the
water
line
cracking
has
a
higher
value
than
an
under
the
cap,
crack
okay
or
a
delamination
okay.
So
so
those
are
given
a
value
and
with
that
value
that
helps
us
prioritize
what
projects
need
to
be
replaced?
First,
when.
G
We
took
the
human
element
out,
it
used
to
be
where
the
the
assessor
would
give
it
would
give
that
wall.
I
think
that's
an
overall
condition
of
a
of
a
four
now
it
it.
They
still
do
that,
but
that
scoring
is
just
there
for
reference.
The
program
goes
through
and
it
pulls
all
those
multiplier
values
and
once
it
calculates
out
a
total
number,
then
it
goes
in
and
it
says
I'm
this
based
on
all
of
these
items.
G
This
becomes
a
if
the
assessor
said
it
was
a
four
the
numbers
generate
out
and
says
it's
only
a
three,
and
so
it's
a
a
much
more
thorough
apples
to
apples
comparison.
That's
automated,
as
it
runs
through
less
judgmental,
yeah,
less
judgmental
it's
just
based
on
the
facts
of
what
the
data
or
what
the
numbers
are.
This.
G
B
Last
year
was
the
first
time
we
had
the
software
out.
Okay,
we
learned
a
lot,
especially
after
we
started
the
post-processing
and
we
started
going
hey
man
these
these
water
line
crackings
are
coming
up
as
a
three
rated.
Why
you
know
this
is
a
this
is
an
important
damaged
element.
We
need
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
it,
so
mr
disher
went
in
and
refined
the
software
again
and
this
year's
data,
which
is
only
the
south
portion
of
pgi
southwest
and
southeast
zones.
F
B
Just
for
your
information,
when
I
do
put
the
work
program
together,
I
share
the
love
all
right.
I
make
sure
that
each
zone
has
a
certain
amount
of
replacement.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
I
don't
just
because
we
did.
The
report
in
the
south
zone
doesn't
mean
we're
going
to
focus
all
of
our
efforts
in
the
south
zone.
No,
I'm
not
saying.
F
B
F
How
many
fours,
how
many
fives,
how
many
monitored
fours
and
how
many
fives
or
in
the
south
and
taking
the
same
program
or
modifying
or
whatever
you
have
to
do
with
it?
We
want
to
know
what
the
we
need
to
know.
What
the
north
side
would
estimate
at.
I'm
not
saying
they.
You
know
extrapolate
it
out
for
budgetary
purposes,.
B
G
And
then
the
the
software
we
use
that
jinx
breaks
averaging.
So
when
you
know
we'll
always
have
fives
in
the
system
as
we
get
rid
of
the
worst
fives,
that
averaging
will
float
that
number
down,
so
they'll
always
be
fives,
but
they're
going
to
get
better
as
we
go
or
the
grouping
of
fives
will
get
smaller.
G
Yeah,
the
monitor
column
is
basically
it
it's
a
red
flag.
That
says,
there's
something:
there's
an
issue
on
this
cap
or
there's
an
issue
on
this
wall,
and
we
need
to
monitor
it.
We
need
to.
We
need
to
keep
our
eyes
on
it.
Okay,
so
that's
in
essence.
What
that
is,
is
it's
it's
not
it's,
not
a
total
of
the
the
entire
condition
length,
but
it's
just
a
red
flag
on
those
segments.
It.
B
We
may
have
had
some
hairline
cracking
in
a
cap
or
we
may
have
had
some
transverse
cracking.
We
don't
take
transverse
cracking
well,
we
take
all
cracking
serious,
but
not
as
serious
as
lateral
cracking.
Lateral
cracking
is
more
movement
where
transverse
cracking
is
more
just
you
know,
the
concrete
is
shrinking
and
expanding
kind
of
thing
or
there's
it's
where
all
the
stirrups
are,
or
something
like
that.
So
so
the
monitor
is
just
telling
us
that.
B
G
As
you
get
as
you
get
closer
to
the
fives,
the
condition
length
and
the
monitor
length
come
in
parity,
so
the
further
away
from
five
you
get
that
that
parity
goes
away.
You
know
yeah
the
bottom,
well,
threes,
fours
and
fives.
They
they
get.
They
got
brought
into
the
three
four
and
five
category
because
of
the
fact
that
there
was
cracks,
and
there
was
issues
with
it.
Okay,.
E
G
Next
time
we
go
back
out.
Well,
no
we're
not
doing
the
assessment
only
happens,
obviously
the
same
kind
of
cycle,
but
when
you're
on
the
boat,
I
have
a
background
mapping
built
that
shows
the
different
colors
so
that
the
assessor
knows
hey
that
one's
got
orange
underneath
it
that's
a
monitor,
for
I
need
to
really
put
my
eyes
on
that
and
make
sure
see
what
you
know.
So
that's
that's
the
red
flags
that
are
the
other
flags
that
are
submitted.
E
G
G
Got
23.74
aggregated
miles
of
monitor
and
obviously
we
can't
monitor
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
found
are
below
that
tie
line
so
anytime.
We
could
only
see
the
entire
wall
with
that
that
snapshot
in
time
when
we
had
our
low
tide,
so
it
wouldn't
really
do
us
much
good
to
monitor
again
there's
enough
volume
here
that
would
take
away
from
the
past.
You
know
the
the
previous
year's
assessment,
so
we
just
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
it.
So
this
it
seems
like
the
best
way
to
do.
G
The
paper
reports
are
there
and
then
we've
got
the
mapping
so
that
when
she's
looking
at
a
sea
wall,
then
she
can
go
in
and
turn
on.
What
did
they
say
last
year?
Turn
that
on
and
on
what
was
it
two
years
ago,
turn
that
on
and
off
so
you
can
kind
of
dive
in
and
see
how
the
data
has
has
progressed,
even
though
you're
looking,
you
know,
apples
to
oranges,
but
it's
still,
it's
still
very
healthy
yeah.
B
And
and
we're
able
to
put
in
notes
take
pictures,
we
have
an
issue
out
on
whipperwill,
where
the
cracking
has
gotten
much
worse,
they're,
actually
building
a
house
next
to
the
seawall
right
there,
so
we
were
able
to
reach
out
to
the
contractor
and
tell
them
hey.
This
is
going
to
be
a
priority.
We
need
to
work
with
you
as
far
as
you
finishing
up
the
house
and
the
co
and
and
stuff
like
that.
So
it
was
it's
a
helpful
tool
for
us
in
the
field
as
we're
looking
at
it
at
that
time,.
D
B
I
think
loss
of
berm
when
we
start
losing
our
berm.
We
have
tidal
waters,
our
soils
move
all
the
time
or
we
get
people.
You
know
we
get.
You
know
prop
dredging
whatever.
So
when
we
start
losing
that
berm,
that's
when
bsi
is
experiencing
a
lot
of
that
they
they
have,
they
have
very
little
berm
in
their
canals
and
that
a
lot
of
their
sea
walls
are
kicking
out.
A
The
taylor
engineering
study
had
it
at
their
cost,
was
the
cost
that
they
were
estimating
was
317,
so
an
increase
over
time
which
is
happening.
Are
you
making
an
assumption
about
what
that
cost
will
be
for
this
purpose?
Obviously,
it's
going
to
be
more
because
everything
is
more
and
every
dollar
it
goes
up.
That
means
less
footage
can
be
done.
So
what's
what's
going
on
with
that.
B
So
I
actually
I
was
working
on
that
today.
I
had
to
update
my
cost
because
I
have
to
prepare
for
a
meeting
on
thursday
with
kristin
to
come
up
with
a
lineal
foot,
cost
a
reasonable
linear
foot
cost
and
it's
just
not
sea
wall
replacement.
It's
cost
for
panel
manufacturing
as
well,
so
everybody's
costs
are
going
up
granted
we
might
be
under
contract,
but
when
those
contracts
expire
they
have
an
option
to
adjust
their
prices
up
to
five
percent.
B
So
yeah
we
are
looking
at
those
prices
right
now
with
today's
figures,
we're
looking
at
355
millennial
foot
and
you
have
to
understand
that
we
have
a
lot
of
variables.
Also,
you
know,
there's
debit
bases
we
pay
for
to
have
debit
bases
removed.
We
talked
about
increasing
our
deadman
by
30
percent
and
we're
taking
that
very
serious.
B
A
The
and
back
to
jake's
question
about
factors
we're
looking
at
the
whole
rip-rap
situation
and
the
plan
is
to
not
just
do
it
at
out
fall,
but
in
other
places,
if
we
can-
and
I
think
I'm
remembering
the
taylor
studies
suggesting
that
per
linear
foot,
if
you're,
adding
riprap
is
another
100
bucks,
so
the
seawall
replacement
process
355
had
riprap
we're
now
455
to
do
the
ideal
right.
How
do
we
work
with
that
because,
again
that
that
the
length
gets
shorter
and
shorter
we're
we're
already
behind?
Are
we
going
to
even
be
further
behind
or.
B
B
B
B
B
G
G
A
G
F
G
Exactly
yeah
and
they
know
that
and
they're
on
they
they
get
updates.
They
ask
for
updates.
Where
are
we
at?
And
it's
like
we're
still
at
army
corps
or
national
fisheries
we're
waiting
on
permitting
waiting
on
permitting?
So,
unfortunately,
we
haven't
been
able
to
close
out
the
irma
project,
which
means
that
we're
you
know
that
delays
that
clock
for
the
audit
times
so
after
we
close
the
project
out,
then
we
can
move
into
the
audit.
We
did
a
ton
of
pre-audit
work,
but.
C
A
G
B
I
would
like
anybody.
I
would
like
to
extend
an
invitation
if
anybody
wants
to
come
to
the
office,
see
the
software
programming.
Look
at
the
maps
see
the
mile
long
spreadsheet
that
mr
tischer
lives
with.
You
are
more
than
welcome
to
come
to
the
office.
Just
call
me
and
make
an
appointment,
and
we
can
show
you
exactly
what
we're
we're
doing.
Just.
A
A
F
F
G
E
A
Last
year,
in
the
heat
of
the
moment,
the
I
know
somebody
from
burnt
store
wrote
a
piece
for
a
newsletter
that
they
circulate
in
burnt
store.
We
did
a
little
piece
here
which
hopefully
would
have
been
picked
up
by
council
members
who
communicate
on
a
weekly
basis
using
the
city
manager's
piece
and
adding
their
own.
A
I'm
wondering
if
that
couldn't
be
resurrected
as
part
of
the
process
of
getting
the
public
engaged
informing
them,
so
that
people
are
seeing
it
because
I
know
april
and
may
we
are
likely
to
start
getting
the
folks
who
say
I
was
away
I'm
north.
I
can't
come
I,
but
at
least
electronically,
if
we're
going
to
whatever
the
mailing
list
that
mayor
matthews
has
or
whomever
at
least
there's
a
way
to
get
the
message
out
to
their
constituent
group
and
then
maybe
they'll
get
some
calls.
I
don't
know
so.
B
A
D
I
just
have
one
comment:
jake
die
the
other
day.
I
was
in
on
a
palm
tree
looking
out
the
canal,
and
there
were
a
couple
guys
out
there,
trying
to
rescue
a
floating
dock
or
floating
lift
as
the
code
would
refer
to
it
as
and
it
had
broken
loose
and
they'd
put
it
in
themselves.
And
I,
when
you
start
looking
around,
you
realize
that
almost
all-
and
I
say
almost
all
because
I
know
that
a
couple
docs
have
been
permitted
or
the
floating
version
have
been
permitted.
D
D
Doesn't
they
can't
give
you
any
statistics
at
all
on
whether
it
was
on
what
floating
lifts
get
installed
or
get
permitted,
because
they
don't
track
that
information,
and
I
tried
to
ask
smitty
and
I
haven't-
had
a
chance
to
to
really
do
it,
but
I'm
guessing.
If
I
ask
him,
how
many
does
he
permit
a
year?
He'd
probably
tell
me
very
few,
so
majority
of
them
go
in
just
by
individual
and
I'm
wondering
whether
or
not
we
have
a
problem
that
we
should
think
about.
D
Or
is
this
a
small
enough
problem
that
you
know
that
we
need
to
concern
ourselves
with
larger
problems
rather
than
this,
and
do
these
small
platforms
really
need
a
building
permit?
Could
they
get
a
no
fee
permit?
Just
to
you
know,
and
maybe
have
certain
specific
standards
that
you
give
for
putting
them
in.
I
don't
know
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering
about
it,
but
now
that
I
look
at
them
every
time
I
go
out
into
the
canal,
which
is
about
three
times
a
day.
D
I
look
at
a
look
around
and
I
can
always
every
time
I
go
out
there.
I
can
see
a
floating
dock,
a
floating
platform
or
floating
something
everywhere.
You
look
they're
out
there,
so
I'm
just
wondering
too
what
happens
when
we
have
a
big
storm,
because
most
people
don't
have
the
ability
to
be
able
to
anchor
them
substantially
we're
going
to
have
them
floating
all
over
the
place.
Luckily,
they're
probably
not
going
to
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
damage,
but
so
I
bring
it
up.
D
I
don't
really
have
an
answer
to
it,
but
I
was
just
curious
as
to
what
you
guys
thought
about
whether
or
not
this
is
a
problem.
I
know
we
had
a
conversation
before
the
meeting
about
you
know
who
monitors
all
this.
Well,
the
co-compliance
doesn't
go
into
the
you
know
into
the
property,
so
they
don't
see
it.
They
don't
have
access
to
boats,
so
they're
not
going
to
get
out
there,
the
volunteers
in
policing.
D
I
don't
think
they're
saddled
with
this,
yet
maybe
in
the
future
nobody's
going
to
report
it
because
if
you
report
it
now,
it's
public
record
and
nobody
wants
to.
You
know-
eat
cheese
on
their
neighbor.
So
so
this
just
kind
of
builds
and
builds
and
builds,
and
I
was
just
curious
whether
you
guys
thought
this
was
a
problem
and
if
anything
should
be
done
about
it.
D
D
D
D
And
maybe
a
lot
of
this
is-
is
education
because
most
people,
when
I
talk
to
him
I'll,
go
talk
to
a
customer
and
he's
got
a
floating
dock
out
there
that
he
uses
for
kayaks
and
stuff
and
we'll
talk
about
it
and-
and
he
asked
me,
can
we
put
one
in
for
jet,
ski
and
I'll
say
yeah,
but
it's
a
you
know
you
got
to
get
a
permit
for
it.
In
fact,
you
did
sure
you
probably
got
a
permit
for
that
when
it
goes.
No,
I
have
to
get
a
permit
for
that.
D
A
D
Oh,
no,
I
can
guarantee
you
that
that's
an
education
every
time
I
I
I
visit
a
customer.
It's
in
the
you
know,
there's
the
education
part
that
comes
in
you,
gotta,
explain
everything
and
nobody
knows
some.
Some
people
really
do
their
homework.
They've
been
there
before
in
other
places,
and
they
they
know
that
the
stuff
is
out
there.
They
know
where
to
look
for
it,
they
find
it
and
they
get
educated
on
it.
But
that's
not
the
average
customer
average
homeowner.
A
This,
since
we're
in
discussion
not
making
a
vote,
we
have
the
issue
of
who's
already
done
it
without
permit
and
the
ability
to
enforce
any
of
that
which
we
don't
have.
It
occurs
to
me
that
we
could
assume
that
folks
want
to
be
law
abiding,
but
they
didn't
understand.
There
was
something
that
they
had
to
do
so.
D
And
there's
clearly
a
difference
between
the
the
lightweight
platform
that
people
just
want
to
use
to
get
on
and
off
their
kayaks
to
the
ford
jet
ski
easy
dock
solution.
But
you
can
put
that
easy
dock
in
yourself.
All
you
got
to
do.
I
mean
the
semi
will
come
and
dump
all
that
stuff
in
your
front
yard,
and
you
can
pick
all
the
sections
up
yourself.
A
D
Yeah,
but
well,
and
that's
the
reason
I
bring
it
up
is
because
when
you
look
out
there
and
you
just
let
your
imagination
run
wild
and
think
about
a
storm.
Well,
first
of
all,
you
take
a
storm
like
maria
and
a
lot
of
these
are
going
to
break
because
they're
not
installed
properly
they're
just
going
to
they're
just
going
to
break
and
some
will
break
and
break
loose.
D
D
D
I
didn't
ask
him
that
I'm
not
aware
of
anything
in
the
code
that
talks
about
that.
Well,
you
know,
there's
so
many
different
kinds
of
of
floating
docks
and
lifts
and
stuff
out
there.
The
there's
accudock,
which
is
a
totally
separate
system,
then
like
jet
dock
or
ez
dock
they're,
all
installed
differently.
D
F
I
was
just
wondering
whether
he
had
anything
wrong
because
there's
so
many
different
variations
to
it,
but
you're,
probably
the
rarest
one.
I
have.
I
don't
know
the
record
through
the
marine
police
or
the
police
department
itself
of
loose
floating
dots.
You
found
one,
of
course,
but
I've
never
run
across
it
in
10
years.
D
G
A
D
B
E
One
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
brought
we
have
brought
up
a
couple
of
times
is
the
fact
that
we're
here
and
we
approve
special
ex
exemptions
and
things
along
those
lines.
But
we
have
a
three
or
four
page
list
of
approved
permits
for
docks
or
lifts
that
the
city
has
approved,
because
it
doesn't
need
an
exception,
and
we
said
maybe
we
need
to
have
some
kind
of
a
combination
of
things
so
that
the
the
approved
permits
aren't
going
to
create
a
situation
where
we
have
our
conflicts
of
of.
D
I
have
recently
had
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
building
department
on
where
we're
building.
So
obviously
some
discussion
is
going
on
because,
as
a
contractor,
I'm
I'm
feeling
it
from
the
building
department.
It
seems
like
they're
looking
at
these
things.
A
lot
closer
now,
there's
still
a
little
bit
of
a
gap
between
the
standards
in
some
cases,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
somebody's
doing
some
communicating
so
for
the
record
brian
clemens
probably
need
to
have
some
more
discussion
with
building.