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Punta Gorda Isles Canal Advisory Committee 02-22-2022
C
And
then
I
was,
I
made
a
real
quick
trip
down
to
home
depot
and
and
the
traffic
was
backed
up
on
41,
I
mean
like
30
hours
perspective.
E
C
We
can't
find
we
can't
find
lots
to
stay
staging
yeah.
We
used
to
do
about
a
third
of
our
work.
With
a
barge
I
mean
with
a
crane.
I
can't
do
that
anymore.
E
A
Please
stand
and
join
me
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
A
Okay,
by
way
of
an
announcement
we
are
going
to
move
the
chair
vice
chair
nominations,
election
up,
but
not
quite
yet,
and
I
will
ask
whether
anyone
here
is
not
able
to
attend
the
march
21st
meeting.
If
you
know
now,
let
us
know
seeing
no
one.
We
are
meeting
on
march
21st.
That
is
back
on
monday
again,
we'll
ask
leah
to
do
the
roll
call.
Please.
F
F
A
Also
here
let
us
please
do
the
approval
of
minutes
for
the
last
meeting.
What
is
your
pleasure
so
moved?
Mr
navi's
moves
secretary
seconds
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
E
C
Jake
dye
I'd
like
to
nominate
mr
kanavey
for
vice
chair.
E
This
meeting
is
being
recorded,
so
everything's
on
the
record
needs
to
be
on
the
record.
Thank
you.
B
Good
afternoon
kathy
miller
canal
maintenance
for
the
record
in
your
packets
was
the
january
finance
report.
Were
there
any
questions
concerns.
B
Okay,
your
monthly
budget
utilization
is
also
in
your
package.
As
you
can
see,
the
only
money
we've
spent
is
for
seawall
replacement.
So
far
on
our
four
major
items
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
mangroves
trimming
will
start
april
4th,
so
we
went
out
for
bids
and
our
lowest
bidder
was
the
same
contractor.
That's
been
doing
mangrove
trimming
for
us
for
all
these
years,
but
we
have
some
different
contract
language
so
hopefully
we'll
get
it
all
done
within
a
period
of
time,
90
days
so,
okay,
I
have
a
question.
C
Kathy
sure
this
is
an
old
conversation
topic,
but
you
know
we
keep
talking
about
who
has
jurisdiction
over
the
mangroves
and
whether
or
not
these
are
whether
it's
the
state,
the
city
or
the
corps
of
engineers
jointly
with
national
marine
fisheries.
I
kind
of
understand
about
the
rim
canal,
but
the
others
has
that
any
resolution
on
any
of
that.
B
So
we
know
that
that's
going
to
be
a
big
change
for
us,
but
once
we
get
that
document
from
the
army
corps
of
engineers
we'll
go
over
that
and
explain
all
that
stuff
to
you.
H
B
They
can
go
to
florida
department
of
environmental
protection,
we
have
a
booklet,
it's
called
the
waterfront
development
standards
and
there's
a
little
section
in
there
about
mangrove
trimming.
But-
and
you
know,
rules
change
all
the
time.
So
I
just
tell
everybody
go
directly
to
fdep,
you
know
and
contact
them.
There's
I
have
a
manual,
that's
probably
about
25
pages,
that
I
can
email
someone
if
they're
interested
okay.
B
So
I
have
some
bad
news
for
you.
We
had
two
failed
sea
walls
that
came
up
unexpectedly
unplanned,
and
we
had
to
extend
one
of
one
project:
the
ball
harbor
project,
which
is
a
condominium
about
150
feet,
because
we
just
couldn't
find
good,
stable
infrastructure
to
tie
into
so
I
had
to
take
one
of
the
projects
this
month
I
had
to
take
off
and
we'll
do
it
next
year,
which
is
on
don
quixote
and
we'll
probably
have
to
take
another
project
and
just
delay
it
to
next
year.
B
B
B
A
A
On
that
I
am
assuming
we
are
going
to
go
through
a
similar
discussion
of
what
will
we
recommend
to
council
for
seawall
assessment,
replacement
assessment
fees
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
get
particularly
for
the
newest
members,
who
were
not
part
of
last
year's
discussion
on
this
copies
of
the
taylor
engineering
study
and
then
for
all
of
us.
Since
I
understand
you're
now,
happily
done
with
the
seawall
assessment
for
this
year
kind
of
an
update.
A
So
we,
whatever
the
picture,
should
be
that
we
can
take
a
look
at
as
to
where
we
are
with
the
need
to
replace
over
the
course
of
the
next
five
to
ten
years
and
what
that
means
in
terms
of
assessment
rates.
That
would
be
helpful
and
then,
when
that's
appropriate,
to
put
it
on
our
agenda
for
discussion
after
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
digest
some
of
that.
B
So
mr
disher
and
I
met
this
morning
and
we
talked
about
we're
going
to
present.
Our
goal
is
to
present
the
assessment
findings
at
our
next
meeting
in
march.
Okay,
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
a
different
mindset,
especially
after
the
taylor
study.
We
had
mr
disher
made
some
changes
to
the
way
that
we
inspected
and
assessed
the
sea
wall.
So
so
I'm
just
going
to
break
the
shock
to
you
now
you're
going
to
find
some
serious
sea
walls
in
our
system.
B
We
and
those
are
pretty
much
sea
walls
that
have
water
line
cracks.
We
consider
those
a
serious
condition
because
they're
so
intrusive,
so
we'll
we'll
we'll
explain
all
of
that.
In
our
march
meeting
once
mr
disher
has
an
opportunity
to
post
process
all
the
data,
there
are
some
things.
There
are
some
errors.
We
have
to
go
back
and
fix
and
stuff
like
that.
So
our
goal
is
to
present
it
to
you
guys
next
month.
A
And
I
don't
want
to
jump
the
gun
too
much,
but
based
on
what
you
said
given
our
conversations
a
year
ago,
and
as
we
digested
the
taylor
study,
the
recommendation
was
to
accelerate
the
the
rate
of
replacement
well
beyond
50
percent,
beyond
where
we
have
been-
and
this
sounds
like
it's
worse
than
that-
that
we're
going
to
have
to
be
more
aggressive
with
replacement,
which
means
more
aggressive
with
budget.
In
order
to
do
that.
Is
that
a
fair
yeah?
That's.
B
A
And
the
northerly
half
with
the
sailboat
section
was
particularly
of
concern
with
respect
to
taylor.
That's
a
lot
of
the
older
original
walls.
Yes,
so.
E
B
I've
already
talked
to
kristin
in
finance.
We've
already
had
the
conversation
about
increasing
the
rates,
because
we
knew
that
that
was
the
program
that
you
guys
wanted
to
pursue,
so
she
is
preparing
for
that.
I
don't
know
when
she's
going
to
meet
with
you
guys,
but
if
you
want,
I
can
get
with
her
and
send
out
a
global
email
to
everybody
and
let
you
know,
and
and
that
way,
if
there's
any
information
that
you
guys
want
to
be
prepared
for
that
particular
meeting,
I
can
send
it
out
to
you.
B
I
will
send
out
the
taylor
study
to
everybody
and,
if
there's
anything
else,
you
guys
want
just.
Let
me
know:
okay.
B
F
For
second
gary
disher,
do
we
have
any
questions
on
our
capital
improvement
report?
There.
F
No,
the
consultants
on
his
the
spoilside
channels,
these
they
just
invoiced
me
they've,
got
all
of
their
data
together,
they're
fine,
basically
working
on
the
last
task,
which
is
the
final
report,
so
we
may
see
that
pretty
soon
here
and
then
we'll
have
some
direction
as
to
which
way
we're
going
to
run
on
that
that
project.
Okay,
thank
you.
F
A
A
H
Brian
clements
engineering
public
works
before
I
get
into
the
the
ccsp
application
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
we
had
a
request
from
the
neighbor
to
the
south
of
this
property
also
to
be
to
get
to
acquire
intervenor
status
they,
but
due
to
a
medical
reason,
they
were
unable
to
be
here.
H
A
H
All
right
so
I'd
like
to
reintroduce
application
number
ccsp
25-2021
by
brian
holt
of
lot
24
block
145,
section
12,
also
identified
as
5036
key
largo
drive.
This
application
was
continued
from
the
meeting
last
month.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
a
dock,
a
four-post
boat,
lift
and
a
walk
board.
The
reason
for
the
special
permit
application
is
that
three
of
the
pilings,
a
portion
of
the
boat,
lift
and
a
portion
of
the
wall
board,
are
outside
the
structure
limitation
lines.
H
H
Staff
recommends
favorable
consideration,
perth's
review
of
article
2,
section
2,
1
e
4
contingent
on
testimony
from
dr
horon
hornback
acknowledging
the
current
vessel
at
50,
24
kilogram
drive
is
safely
to
navigate
to
and
away
from
its
stock
from
conversation
that
after
the
last
meeting,
it
seemed
as
though
this
was
possible,
with
a
configuration
similar
to
those
that
were
submitted.
H
I
All
right
well
good
afternoon,
I'm
brian
holt,
I'm
mary
lou
holt
and
I've
been
sworn
in.
I've
been
sworn,
we
owned
the
property,
as
you
say,
at
5036,
key
largo
drive,
bought
the
property
in
april
and
we're
seeking
a
few
things.
Yeah.
G
I
kind
of
want
to
speak
to
this
because
I
heard
some
talk
in
the
audience
last
time,
so
we
bought
a
boat
or
a
bought,
a
house
that
has
40
feet
of
property.
If
you
or
anybody
was
trying
to
buy
a
house
last
year
or
was
involved
in
the
buying
or
selling
process,
it
was
a
hot
market.
We
had
made
multiple
offers
on
multiple
homes
that
were
going
with
multiple
offers
well
over
asking
price.
So
we
had
a
number
of
things
we
were
looking
for.
G
In
a
home,
we
wanted
a
home
that
was
large
enough
for
our
family.
We
have
eight
children,
we
have
three
children
living
with
us,
our
12
year
old
or
16
year,
old
and
18
year
old
are
still
in
the
home
with
us.
At
at
this
property,
we
were
looking
for
a
house
that
had
boating
access
for
a
boat
that
would
allow
us
to
get
our
children
on
the
boat
and
and
for
day
trips
we
weren't
looking
for
overnights
and
large
vessels.
G
We
were
looking
for
something
that
was
large
enough
to
navigate
the
the
waters
around
here
and
come
back
home
and
we
were
looking
for
swimming
pool.
We
were
looking
for
a
nice
kitchen.
We
were
looking
for
large
bedrooms.
We
just
had
a
number
of
things
we
were
looking
for
in
a
hot
market.
We
ended
up
buying
this
home
after
looking
and
seeing
that
while
it
didn't
have
the
boat
lift
that
brian
was
hoping
to
get
it
and
talking
to
the
city
it
looked
like
it
was
a
possibility.
I
Sure
yeah,
so
you
know,
and
starting
when
mary
lou
got
interested
in
this
home,
I
became
concerned
that
you
know
it
didn't,
have
a
lift
there.
It'd
be
nice
if
it
did,
that'd
be
great
but
reached
out
to
the
city
started
with
schmidty
and
then
was
referred
to
bob
nicola.
They
gave
us
all
kinds
of
ideas.
They
explained
this
whole
cscsp
process.
It
sounded
like
it
would
be
involved
and
it
has
proven
to
be,
but
it
sounded
like
it
was.
I
This
was
one
of
them
listed
in
our
application
as
a
decent
example.
Next,
please
here's
another
one
in
2018
on
on
coronado
you
can
see.
This
is
more
of
a
straight
in
approach.
We're
kind
of
coming
in
at
an
angle.
Next,
please
here's
another
one
in
2019,
again
straight
in
approach.
You
know
kind
of
tight
with
his
neighbors,
but
all
staying
within
its
birthing
lines.
I
Next,
please
this
one
similar
to
what
we're
proposing
to
do
here
with
a
trapezoidal
lift.
You
know
single,
regular
dock
40
feet
of
access
kind
of
tight
with
his
neighbors,
but
also
looks
like
staying
within
his
birthing
lines.
Next,
please,
this
one
on
casey
key
is
very
emblematic
of
what
we're
proposing
to
do
in
this
new
configuration,
not
a
lot
different
from
what
we're
looking
at
here.
I
This
was
2018.
Next,
please.
I
I
So,
if
you
take
an
aerial
tour
and
we've
done
this
many
times
over
the
last
six
months,
you
know,
starting
with
when
we
were
looking
to
buy
the
house
till
shortly
after
we
bought
it
through
the
summer.
We
approached
the
four
major
contractors
who
do
this
kind
of
work.
They
all
gave
us
designs.
They
all
look
fairly
similar
to
what
we're
presenting
to
you
on
what
you're.
Seeing
from
me
is
an
amalgamation
of
that
and
I
just
thought
it
would
kind
of
speed
things
up
being
I'm
an
engineer
licensed
in
this
state.
I
I
do
this
kind
of
site
plan
work
regularly.
We
do
transportation
work
primarily
railroads
street
lighting,
municipal
trans
pump
stations,
I've
done
a
lift
bridge
crossing
the
red
river
in
fargo
moorhead.
We
worked
on
lock
and
dam
number
six
on
the
mississippi
river
for
the
army
corps
of
engineers.
We
did
everything
we
do.
Usually.
The
first
sheet
is
a
site
plan.
It's
for
electromechanical
devices.
I
So
locating
you
know
a
few
motors
and
some
posts
and
stuff.
That's
that's
what
we
do
for
a
living
so
usually
start
with
the
site
plan
and
the
aerial
planning
and
then
decks
please
so
so
in
doing
that,
here's
the
casey
key
ones
that
we
showed
you
the
one
that's
most
emblematic
of
ours-
is
in
the
upper
left
corner
that
one
that's
trading
is
in
the
lower
right,
there's
a
blow
up
of
them
down
below
you
can
kind
of
see
where
they
are,
and
next
please
and
here's
just
just
a
few
others.
I
I
And
what
what
you
also
think,
I
think,
you're
seeing
here
is
many
of
the
turning
basins
that
are,
you
know
where
these
are
installed.
They
they're
not
nearly
as
wide
as
ours.
We
have
340
feet
on
average
in
front
of
ours,
and
it's
it's
it's
a
dead
end.
These
vessels
are
coming
around
corners
and
they're
continuing
on
ours.
The
only
people
that
come
in
our
basin
are
people
that
live
there
and
occasional
fishermen,
which
is
rare
and
occasional
sites
here,
which
is
rare.
Next,
please.
I
Here's
here's
another
example:
this
one's
pretty
tight.
One
of
the
questions
that
freya's
have
is,
is
you
know
how
would
they
use
theirs?
This
is
this:
is
a
30-foot
corner
lot
adjacent
to
a
55-inch
adjacent
to
a
corner
lot
and
you
can
see
they've
got
a
lift
and
then
what
looks
like
another
room
for
another
large
vessel
to
be
moored
in
the
water
north
of
it.
I
So
one
idea,
I
don't
know
what
what
they
have
in
mind
with
their
unused
property,
but
that's
one
example
of
what
they
could
do
next.
Please
here's
another
example
of
a
straight
in
approach
on
a
34
foot
lot.
I
So
with
that,
what
do
we
want
to?
Do?
I
mean
that
that
that
was
all
in
the
spring
and
early
summer,
so
we
got
the
contractors
out.
They
gave
us
their
designs,
I
kind
of
wanted
to
tailor
and
fit
it,
and-
and
I
had
this
survey
so
we
we
took
what
they
did
and
we
brought
this
survey
into
autocad
and
we
drew
our
triangles
out
in
the
water
on
it
and
it
was
all
based
on
a
survey,
but
we
didn't
have
a
cad
file
of
it.
I
So
if
you
move
to
the
next
drawing
this
was
the
survey
that
arrived
the
day
after
we
met
last,
so
they
were
out
the
friday
before
and
gathered
the
info,
but
we
didn't
get
this
drawing
until
the
day
after
we
met
last
and
in
in
so
doing
with
you
know
some
of
the
discussion
we've
had.
I
thought
it
best
to
ask
this
surveyor
to
create
additional
base
mapping
for
us.
I
So
what
you're
looking
at
there
is
all
the
base
mapping
they
created,
so
they
show
our
property
and
all
those
orange
lines
around
there
are
our
base
map
property
corners
and
lot
lines
that
the
the
surveyor
created.
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
page,
please
so
this
time
I
got
the
autocad
file
from
them.
I
I
So
those
two
angle
measurements
are
used
to
set
the
the
birthing
lines,
the
boat
limitation
lines.
So
then
I
bisected
those
two
angles
and
and
created
the
vessel
limitation
lines
based
on
the
property
corners.
That's
seen
in
green
seen
in
green
and
obviously
the
the
structure
limitation
lines
are
45
degrees
from
our
property
line,
so
that's
shown
there
and
snapped
on
so
that
is
the
base
map
file
that
then
you
know
whatever
we're
going
to
do
from
a
dock
needs
to
stay
inside
those
triangles.
I
I
And
one
thing
we
could
do
is
build
the
dock
exactly
as
we're
proposing
to
do
with
the
lift,
just
as
you
see
there
and
we,
we
could
have
a
contractor
put
in
three
piles
along
there
and
you
know
probably
put
tide
slides
on
it
and
tie
a
boat
up
there,
and
so
the
boat
would
be
in
the
water
exactly
where
we're
proposing
to
put
a
lift
where
so
so,
really,
the
question
before
this
board
is:
can
we
put
the
three
posts
outside
the
the
structural
limitation
lines,
but
inside
the
boat
limitation
lines
and
extend
the
walkway
so
that
we
can
get
to
the
left?
I
That's
that's
what
we're
requesting
this
board
to
approve
next,
please!
This
is
just
a
different
view
of
that.
I
think
the
other
one
speaks
better
to
it,
but
next
please.
So
this
is
we're
back
to
what.
What
are
we
proposed
to
do
this?
This
is
a
zoomed
out
view
of
it
and
I
think,
we're
better
off
skipping
ahead,
two
slides
and
looking
at
a
tighter
view
yeah.
So
this
is
this
is
what
we're
proposing
to
put
in.
You
can
see
we're
looking
at.
You
know
these
three
posts
outside
of
it.
I
I
I
G
And
again,
just
to
point
out
the
reason
why
we're
here
before
this
board
is
for
the
parts
of
the
structure
that
are
between
the
blue
and
the
green
lines.
We
aren't
proposing
to
go
outside
of
the
structure
limitation
lines
and
we
aren't
proposing
to
have
the
boat
lift
anywhere
other
than
that
we
wouldn't
want
to
otherwise
have
our
boat,
which
is
within
our
structure,
rotation
or
with
the
within
our
boat
limitation
lines.
I
One
question
was
asked
about
why
we
you
know,
could
we
pull
back?
Maybe
the
aluminum
walk
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
one
of
the
things
we
really
wanted
in
the
house.
Is
a
single
story
come
down
to
florida?
You
know
this.
Is
you
know
you're
going
to
be
here
a
while
health
changes
and
stuff?
We
didn't
think
it
changed
this
fast,
so
yeah
so
it'd
be
nice.
I
It's
far
easier
to
get
on
the
boat
at
the
stern
of
it
than
anywhere
else,
so
that
having
a
little
bit
of
room
to
be
able
to
swing
around
that
so
that
you
could
step
off
at
the
same
level
would
be,
would
come
in
handy
next,
please
so
in
wrapping
up.
You
know
the
six
points
that
we
you
want
to
focus
on
here.
Brian,
could
you
zoom
in
this
a
little
bit
it's
a
little
hard
for
everyone
to
read.
I
Oh,
that's
perfect.
Okay,
thank
you!
That
works
all
right,
so
yeah.
The
proposed
list
is
very
similar
to
others
used
in
pgi.
I
think
we've
laid
that
out.
The
layout
stays
entirely
within
our
boat
limitation
lines.
The
lift
is
the
safest
way
to
bore
a
boat.
In
my
view,
you
know
it's
it's
up
out
of
the
way
protected
during
storms
and
hurricanes.
It's
solid!
It's
there.
You
know
a
lot
of
folks
are
concerned
about
paint
on
the
bottom
of
the
boat.
The
heavy
metals
used
in
bottom
paint.
That
type
of
thing.
I
We
won't
need
to
do
that.
It'll
stay
out
of
the
water
item
c.
Would
it
impede
safe
navigation?
The
the
concern
here,
I
would
say,
is
not
navigation.
It's
more
docking
and
mooring.
It's
it's
our
two
neighbors,
which
we
definitely
have
a
concern
for
you
know,
but
it's
I
wouldn't
necessarily
call
that
navigation.
It's
we
all
have
a
right
to
be
able
to
get
away
from
our
properties.
I
That's-
and
we
want
to
preserve
that-
and
I
I
think
this
best
preserves
it
for
both
the
ferraris
and
and
the
horn
box
in
a
way
that
we
can
use
our
boat.
I
mean
the
easiest
way
to
not
impinge
is
to
not
have
a
a
boat
or
a
lift
or
any
of
that,
but
we
got
to
have
something
so
this.
I
think
this
is
a
good
compromise.
G
What
we're
proposing
does
not
impede
safe
navigation,
it
doesn't
get
in
the
way
of
anybody.
Who's
driving
by
on
a
regular
basis
for
for
voting
number
d
would
not
allow
a
structure,
aesthetic
or
functional
incompatible
with
existing
structures
or
uses
on
surrounding
lands.
Again
this.
What
we're
proposing
is
a
typical
layout
for
the
kind
of
designs
of
these
corner.
Lots
of
how
do
you
get
boat
lifts
into
corner
lots
and
we
with
within
it
it
allows
their
neighbors
full
use
within
their
vessel
limitation
lines.
G
We
aren't
exceeding
our
vessel
limitation
lines,
we're
coming
into
the
side
angle
and
there's
lots
of
options
available
for
them
as
well
e
would
not
permit
any
structure
or
activity
that
would
interfere
with
or
be
detrimental
to,
the
quiet
and
peaceful
use
and
enjoyment
of
the
nearby
land.
So
again,
our
layout
does
not
inhibit
our
enable
for
full
use
within
their
limitation
lines.
It
avoids
docking
navigational
conflicts
with
the
sign
in
access,
particularly.
G
Yeah
we
flipped
it
around
and
then
allows
flexibility
to
the
adjacent
vacant,
lots
for
eventually
developing
a
dock
or
lift
there's
currently
neither
a
dock
nor
lift
in
that
spot,
but
they're
certainly
entitled
to
to
building
out
theirs.
G
But
it
we
thought
that
the
design
we
came
up
with
has
a
allows
for
a
lot
of
flexibility
for
what
they
could
do
in
the
future,
and
some
of
those
examples
that
we
showed
through
pgi
showed
many
examples
of
places
where
neighbors
have
managed
to
fit
three
boats
into
tight
spaces
and
would
not
be
otherwise
detrimental
to
public
health
welfare
safety.
G
We
believe
that
placing
the
boat
on
the
lift
is
the
safest
and
most
harmonious
way
of
boring
in
that
spot,
and
the
proposed
walkway
and
dock
is
a
safer
way
to
access
a
boat.
I
just
recently
had
hip
surgery.
Wasn't
anticipating
this,
but
it's
you
know,
life
happens,
and
so
we
feel
your
boat
and
dock
was
a
easy.
It
is
an
easier
way
than
trying
to
get
off
getting
onto
a
lift
with
a
the
docking
situation.
That
we've
proposed
is
much
easier
than
trying
to
get
down
into
water.
F
To
go
ahead,
jeff
domiko,
how
big
of
a
boat
are
you
planning
on
putting
here?
Do
you
have
do
you
own
a.
F
Okay
and
the
the
dock
itself,
I
don't
see
any
like
mooring
pilings-
is
that
accurate.
I
F
F
F
F
I
A
Brian,
could
you
go
back
to
that
picture
that
you
just
briefly
showed
just
to
clarify
that
one,
and
maybe
I
missed
it,
your
intent
is
to
destroy
this
and
put
the
other
stuff.
Yes,
sir,
thank
you,
okay,
so
all
that
goes
and
it
does
the
thing
it
does.
It
served
its
useful
purpose.
Thank
you
any
other
questions
for
the
holts.
J
J
What
I
was
suggesting
is
a
minor
modification.
I
know
the
docks
can
be
up
to
10
foot,
that's
fine,
but
since
we're
working
a
lot
on
space
here,
would
there
be
any
problem
with
making
the
dock
eight
foot
and
therefore
that
just
shifts
everything
forward
a
little
bit
just
a
question
of
possibility.
Can
I.
A
I
So
it
depends
one
contractor
in
particular,
they
do
10-foot
precast
docks.
So
that's
that's
what
this
has
shown
it.
If
we
go
with
a
different
contractor,
they
might
build
an
eight.
The
boat
lift,
wouldn't
change
where
it
is.
The
dock
would
just
be.
This
would
become
longer
and
we
already
talked
to
the
city.
What
we're
approving
here
is
the
biggest
it'll
be,
but
I
I
I
don't
imagine
any
of
the
contractors
are
going
to
build
this.
D
I
D
I
F
A
I
Yeah
to
to
fit
the
boat
yeah,
because
any
of
those
ones
that
I've
showed
you
whether
this
is
10
feet
or
eight
feet,
the
the
farthest
piling
is
typically
out
in
the
in
between
24
and
25
feet,
just
to
make
sure
you've
got
room
to
fit
your
body
and
without
without
bumping
into
the
seawall.
I
mean
this
gives
us
plenty
of
forgiveness
for
not
bumping
into
the
sea
wall.
J
That's
all
my
questions
for
me.
Okay,
this
is
for
steve
ferreira,
5042
key
largo
drive.
J
Why
are
we
even
considering
this
variance
application?
This
same
variance
configuration
was
presented
in
the
january
18th
meeting,
along
with
the
rebuttal
presentation
of
the
lack
of
compliance
to
three
of
the
six
criteria
necessary
for
approval.
The
committee
requested
a
continuance
to
allow
for
other
options.
J
J
However,
he
prefers
another
method
of
dockage
which
violates
the
structured
limitation
code,
as
well
as
the
code
designating
how
far
his
boat
can
protrude
from
the
sea
wall
just
because
he
prefers
a
different
dockage.
It's
not
grounds
for
granting
abundance
and
totally
negates
the
spirit
of
the
variance
process.
J
His
application
is
totally
unacceptable
and
the
request
unreasonable,
since
he
can
utilize
his
property
without
it,
based
on
the
six
criteria
not
being
met,
and
mr
holt
having
adequate
documents
for
his
vote,
I
am
requesting
a
denial
of
the
application
at
this
point.
Certain
legalities
enter
the
process
after
discussion
with
legal
counsel.
These
issues
were
raised,
one
a
variance
may
be
granted
that
does
not
meet
the
established
code
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda.
Only
if
the
benefit
granted
to
one
homeowner
does
not
create
a
detriment
to
another
homeowner.
J
J
These
two
legal
issues
clearly
apply
to
my
situation
under
the
variance
application.
If
granted,
this
fairness
will
all
will
clearly
violate
the
rights
of
enjoyment
and
usage
of
my
profits.
Property
establish
establishing
a
transfer
of
benefits,
also,
the
variance
will
create
a
financial
loss
by
decreasing
the
value
of
my
property.
By
limiting
my
options
for
use
of
my
waterfront,
this
has
been
supported
by
a
recent
real
estate
appraisal.
A
G
I
would
like
to
address.
Could
I
take
a
look
at
some
of
his
notes
of
what
he's
like
mr
was
saying,
because
I
do.
I
would
like
to
address
some
of
what
mr
frost
all
right.
G
I
don't
know
so,
I'm
merely
holding
I
was
born
in
earlier,
so
we
certainly
don't
want
to.
You
know,
get
in
our
neighbor's
way.
We
really
we
want
to
get
congeniality
in
the
neighborhood.
G
This
is
an
empty
lot
and
they
have
a
right
to
build
their
home.
They
have
a
right
to
build
a
dock.
They
have
a
right
to
build
a
boat
lift.
I
have
I
failed
to
see
how
this
would
impede
with
anything
that
he
has
in
mind.
Unless
he
plans
to
viol.
You
know
cross
over
structure
limitation
lines.
As
the
current
vote
is
our
boat
would
back
out
and
then
go
on
its
merry
way
without
needing
to
go
anywhere
in
the
structure
limitation
lines
as
our
dock
currently
is.
G
In
order
to
dock
our
current
boat,
we
can
tie
to
the
current
pilings
that
we
have
and
then
we
need
to
drive
closer
to
his
property.
So
I
I
think
this
actually
provides
greater
flexibility
to
him
rather
than
less
they
are
out
of
state.
We
have
not
had
a
chance
to
talk
with
them.
We've
heard
from
somebody
else
that
thought
was
being
sold
so
we
have,
we
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
see
it,
but
they've
owned
the
property
since
2011
and
then
I
can
show.
I
think
I.
I
G
G
So
this
is
a
google
maps,
just
a
google
maps
from
2011
or
from
june
of
2011.
G
And
it
just
shows
that
there
was
a
very
large
boat
property
at
there
they
bought
in
august
of
2011..
There
was
a
very
large
vessel
there
at
the
time
when
they
bought,
so
how
our
boat,
lift
and
smaller
boats
would
change
the
value
of
their
property.
I
failed
to
understand.
G
Know
so
I
I
wish
they
were
here
that
we
could
ask
them
the
questions
we
haven't
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
them.
I
don't
know
their
contact
information,
but
I
I
can
hear
that
they
have
concerns
for
their
financial
well-being
and
we
respect
that
and
I,
as
we
went
through,
showing
how
other
properties
are
used
in
pgi.
G
I
Again,
brian
and
we
wouldn't
fight
them
on
anything,
they
wanted
to
do
that,
kept
them
within
their
own
vessel
limitation
lines
if
they
wanted
to
go
for
a
special
permit
to
build
something.
J
Let
me
answer
what
he's
concerned
about,
because
when
he
sent
me
this,
he
tried
to
explain
the
whole
thing
all
right:
okay,
that's
fine,
as
his
property
extends
down
this
way
and,
of
course,
continues
on
extending
in
a
straight
line
the
you
know.
The
vessel
limitation
line,
then,
would
be
straight
out
the
90
degree
angle
and
his
neighbor.
J
There
has
a
40
foot
catamaran.
So
not
only
is
it
long,
it's
also
wide
and
it
it's
legal.
It
comes
right
up
to
the
property
line,
but
that
his
concern
is
that
it
impinges
him
on
that
side
on
coming
in
and
then,
if
there's
another
dot
coming
out
in
this
direction,
he
feels
like
that.
His
opening
to
come
in
has
been
decreased.
I
So
I
can
see
where
you
think
that,
and
you
know
we
have
a
40-foot
lot.
It's
pie-shaped
there's
a
formula,
a
template,
a
a
way
of
dealing
with
these
things
within
pgi
and
we're
trying
to
follow
that.
Likewise,
if
you
are
adjacent
to
one
of
those
properties
and
have
a
smaller
property,
like
mr
ferraro
does
he's
adjacent
to
a
corner
lot,
so
he's
got
that
constraint
and
he's
got
54
feet
of
property,
which
is
smaller
than
a
lot
in
pgi.
A
Second
time:
ccsp
25,
2021,
third
time's,
a
charm,
cps
ccsp
2521,
move
to
close
public
hearing.
We
have
a
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing.
Is
there
a
second
mr
kanabi
seconds,
any
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
of
closing
the
public
hearing,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
all
right,
emotion
or
discussion.
Please.
A
C
C
I
don't
see
that
it
has
an
adverse
impact
on
the
others.
Surely
it
does
in
some
way
if
you
consider
that
the
that
the
neighbors
have
some
right
to
use
their
adjacent
neighbors
waters
for
navigation
or
mooring,
the
thought
of
taking
the
dock
and
making
the
dock
a
little
bit
smaller?
C
It
doesn't
seem
to
me
to
make
any
sense
because
it
doesn't.
The
code
doesn't
address
mooring
hazard
to
mooring
in
this
at
all,
it
addresses
the
hazard
navigation
and
I
don't
see
anything
in
the
code
that
says
that
they
should
have
to
adjust
the
size
of
their
dock,
to
facilitate
the
mooring
of
of
an
adjacent
properties
vessel
and
as
far
as
the
navigation
is
concerned,
the
property
to
the
south,
because
the
way
this
is
angled
that
really
I
mean
that
opens
it
up
as
much
as
you
can
probably
open
it
up.
C
It'd
be
a
lot
worse.
If
the,
if
the
lift
were
angled
in
the
other
direction,
then
it
really
would
close
things
off
for
him
and
as
for
as
far
as
the
property
to
the
north,
having
more
than
just
a
little
bit
of
experience
in
boating
and
having
my
captain's
license,
I
can't
imagine
how
why
you
would
want
to
leave
or
enter
that
dock
from
the
south.
C
C
Think
about,
if
you
ask
that
mr
holt
to
tie
his
boat
up
parallel
to
that
to
his
dock,
then,
when
the
property
to
the
south,
given
the
guidance
that
we've
been
that
we've
received
recently
and
and
avoiding
hazard
navigation,
that
would
severely
limit
what
the
property
to
the
south
could
put
in
there,
because
they
would
have
to
allow
for
the
navigation
of
mr
holt
to
get
in
and
out
of
there
because
of
the
way
that
would
be
to
the
south
so
for
the
property
to
the
south.
A
I
are
you
ready
to
make
a
motion,
sir.
A
Seeing
none
are
you
ready
to
vote
all
right?
Let's
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion,
which
is
to
approve
ccsp
2521
is
presented
today,
which
is
the
reconfiguration
from
last
time.
Mr.
D
C
Okay
and
it's
my
understanding
and
maybe
gary
o'brien
can
correct
it,
but
when
this
is
approved,
this
is
what's
approved
and
it's
in
any
modification
of
this
would
have
to
go
back
up
again
for
before
a
special
permit.
I
don't
believe
that
there's
a
that
there's
the
ability
of
the
contractor
or
the
property
owner
to
make
changes
in
this
once
it's
approved
by
here.
H
H
F
F
A
F
A
A
Staff
comments
anything
I
don't
you
all,
no
all
right
anything
from
the
dice.
I
will
take
one
minute
of
your.
F
Time
my
wife
and
I
witnessed
the
neighbor
across
the
canal
from
us
throwing
palm
fronds
into
the
canal
and
coconuts
I've
readied
my
camera
for
the
next
time.
Okay,
thank
you.
Fred.