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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 02-20-19 Part 4
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B
Because
I
haven't
seen
any
statistics
that
prove
number
one,
that
the
noises
to
the
level
that
it's
being
alleged
to
be
at
and
and
I
do
hesitate
to
move
forward
at
this
point,
as
mr.
Hughes
mentioned
earlier
on
in
the
meeting,
I
think
that
this
could
be
part
of
the
pickelball
committee's
goal
to
determine
what
should
be
done.
B
I
don't
disagree
that
I
personally
think
that
at
some
point,
we're
probably
going
to
have
to
buy
the
acoustical
fencing
but
I'm
questioning
whether
we
should
be
moving
forward
on
any
of
this
right
now,
since
that
really
should
be
one
of
the
tasks
of
the
committee
when
they're
appointed
so
I
hate
to
do
a
knee-jerk
decision
right
now.
One.
C
Otherwise,
it's
just
a
waste
of
money,
but
then,
at
that
point
we're
creating
this
opaque
barrier,
which
now
we'll
deal
with
it's
not
gonna,
be
just
$64,000.
It's
gonna,
be
we're
gonna,
probably
need
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
significantly
lowered
property.
I
use
I
mean
probably
next
meeting,
probably
have
documentation
from
Realtors
about
how
much
people
like
I
know
of
one
person
now
he's
had
to
drop
his
house
by
one
million
dollars
because
of
the
presence
of
this
is
real
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
take
this
seriously.
C
I
also
do
think
that
I'm
very
directly
related
is,
is
pickle.
I'd
say
that
we
are
the
we're
we're
lagging
in
the
sense
that
we
are
not
with
our
colleagues
in
the
rest
of
the
state
who
understand
that
you
place
very
popular,
very
Community
Oriented,
it's
very
healthy
sports
and
sports
parks,
the
sense
of
community
that
all
the
good
things
people
said
on
pickleball.
They
do.
Those
enables
in
Englewood
at
their
sports.
First
I,
feel
that
that
I'm,
we
were
miss
in
our
actual
role,
which
is
safety,
Health
and
Welfare
in
Texas
our
property
rights.
C
If
we
don't
understand
the
gravity
of
this
and
I
do
think.
If
we
were
to
move
forward
or
not,
the
debate
meant
it
would
have
to
be
that
ten-foot
wall
around,
which
would
mean
we
didn't
be
liable
for
the
cost
of
the
for
anyone
to
the
city,
because
we're
gonna
lose
a
beautiful
park
and
to
to
the
residents
who's
gonna
lose
their
property
values
who
have
already
lost
property
values.
D
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I
went
on
a
field
trip
over
the
weekend
to
a
park
that
has
just
two
walls
sealed
off
with
the
acoustic
fencing
and
if
you
stood
behind
where
the
fencing
is,
you
could
occasionally
hear
when
a
panel
hit
a
ball,
but
you
never
heard
the
ball
hitting
the
court
when
they
opened
the
door
to
come
out.
It
was
like
you
were
in
the
middle
of
the
court
again,
so
it's
the
same
sort
of
thing
with
a
gymnasium.
D
D
From
that
specific
you
know,
arrangement
I
have
not
heard
anybody,
except
what
you
just
said
now
that
says
we
have
to
do
the
whole
court
I,
don't
think
anybody's
asking
for
that
and
I
also
stood
in
front
of
the
homeowners
home
and
sort
of
imagined
where
the
fencing
would
go
based
on
what
we're
proposing
and
they
lose
from.
You
know
your
perspective
across
the
harbor.
They
lose
about
this
much
of
the
view
if
that
fence
is
there,
because
it's
at
an
angle
it
sort
of
disappears,
and
now
my
other
thing
is
I'm,
not
sure.
D
E
F
F
It
seems
to
me
and
I
have
to
the
couple
we
had.
We
heard
a
couple
of
other
people
address.
This
issue
is:
is
we're
in
the
process
of
forming
that
committee,
electing
people
that
committee
I
think
we
should
give
them
a
opportunity
to
do
their
job?
It
may
come
out
that
it's
not
going
to
be
in
Gilcrest
it
may.
There
may
be
other
locations,
the
city
there
may
not
I,
don't
know,
but
we're
in
the
process
of
putting
together
a
master
plan.
F
If
we're
going
to
do
this
kind
of
thing
in
me,
so
that
we
can
do
a
good,
personal,
permanent,
proper
solution,
we've
we're
asking
good
citizens
of
this
city
to
step
forward.
They
are
stepping
forward.
Let's
let
them
do
the
job,
let's
see
what
they
have
to
say
and
then
make
a
decision.
So
I
think
probably
at
this
point.
In
time
we
may
want
to
procrastinate
on
actually
making
it
as
decision.
If
we
do
make,
one
I
will
refer
to
something
that
Lynn
had
said
in.
F
One
of
our
previous
discussions
is
that
we
do
buy
the
fabric,
it
is
movable.
So
if
we
move
the
courts
to
another
location
at
a
future
time,
then
we're
not
out
all
of
the
$12,000,
because
the
fabric
would
be
moved,
we
would
be
whatever
the
the
mounting
of
that
fabric
would
be.
So
that
might
be
something
we
do
seriously
when
I
consider
it
as
an
interim
band-aid,
nothing
more
until
we
know
what
we
really
want
to
do.
Personally.
F
F
We
want
to
have
many
of
the
activities.
I
believe
that
we
want
to
possible
and
in
any
way
to
maintain
pickleball
within
the
city
limits
of
Punta
Gorda,
because,
even
though
we
are
certainly
as
a
body
in
firmly
behind
pickle
class,
we
want
people
to
be
able
to
bike
to
all
these
fun
activities
we
have
so
if
there
is
a
place
and
if
it's
Gilcrest
or
if
it's
somewhere
else.
This
is
what
we
want
the
committee
to
do.
F
We
should
ask
we're
asking
them
to
do
that
job
so
that
we
can
entertain
possible
solutions
so
that
our
people
and
this
all
comes
in
with
the
transportation
issue.
We
just
discussed.
There's
it's
not
about
cars.
It's
about
cars,
it's
about
bicycles,
it's
about
walking!
It's
about
nickel
ride!
It's
about!
You
know,
people
that
maybe
want
to
start
motorizing
their
their
golf
carts
for
the
street
and
the
future
that
type
of
thing.
So
we
need
to
be
able
to
take
that
in
holistically,
and
we
just
need
to
be
that
context.
F
So
I'm
not
opposed
to
putting
sound
abatement
up
right
now,
as
long
as
it
doesn't
interfere
with
the
idea
of
looking
for
a
true
permanent
solution
and
asking
the
committee
to
do
the
work.
But
if
we
do
do
that,
it
has
to
be
in
a
way,
as
Lynn
pointed
out
that
at
least
we
can
recover
a
significant
portion
of
those
costs
that
we're
putting
putting
forward.
For
that.
D
D
D
E
I
would
agree
with
Gary
and
with
Lynn
in
that
we
have
a
committee
that
we're
going
to
form
and
I'd
like
to
hear
what
this
committee
solution
is
and
I
think
that
that's
important,
but
I
also
appreciate
the
testimony
that
the
residents
have
given
today
and
that
we're
perhaps
staging
more
on
the
harbor
side
as
opposed
to
the
red
Esplanade
side.
Or
you
know
those
kind
of
things
that
we
have
a
v-shape.
Perhaps
we
have
to
have
a
v-shape
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
be,
but
you
know
so
it's
totally
blocked
from
Retta.
E
Maybe
it
has
to
be
landscape.
Those
are
all
considerations
that
I
think
that
most
should
come
out,
but
it
may
and,
like
you
said,
Gary
we
don't
know
where
so
I
would
like
to
see
what
the
residents
have
to
say.
But
if
we
do
go
to
out
to
bid,
we
will
have
those
numbers
so
that,
if
we're
up
whatever
their
recommendation
might
be
that
we
were,
we
will
be
able
to
act
on
something
more
quickly.
A
B
If
we're
going
out
to
bid,
we
have
to
kind
of
know
what
we
want
them
to
bid
on.
So
I
mean
yes,
you
know
we're
we're
not
talking
about
fencing
the
entire
section
in
on
all
four
walls.
I,
don't
think
I
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
I,
don't
think
most
of
us
don't
want
that.
So
you
know
I'm
thinking
at
the
very
most.
It
would
probably
be,
like
you
just
said,
a
v-shape,
maybe
two
walls
being
covered
with
the
wall
so
that
it
protects
it
from
the
street
side
and.
G
B
And
honestly,
you
know:
I
met
with
a
group
from
the
pickleball
community,
the
other
day
and
they're,
very,
very
willing
to
cooperate
in
any
way
that
they
can
to
work
with
the
community
to
be
good,
Samaritans
and
good
citizens,
and-
and
so
you
know,
they're
willing
to
do
a
lot
of
things
to
help
with
their
own
side
of
it.
As
far
as
the
noise
abatement
goes
and
and
I'm
inclined
to
say,
let's
give
this
to
the
pickleball
committee.
B
Let
them
work
on
it
if
they
and
let
that
let
this
be
one
of
the
first
things
they
discuss
and
if
they
come
forward
with
some
information
that
we
should
then
go
out
for
bid.
Let's
know
what
we're
going
out
for
bid
for
I
mean
because,
if
we're
only
if
we're
bidding
on
one
wall,
it's
gonna
be
one
set
of
prices.
If
we're
bidding
on
two
walls,
it's
gonna
be
a
completely
different
set
of
prices.
B
C
One
thing:
I,
don't
wanna
get
in
the
way
of
anything
that
could
possibly
bring
relief
to
the
residents,
but
we
have
to
understand
the
only
people
sacrificing
this
equation
are
the
residents,
because,
if
you
do,
the
B
players
will
have
their
view,
they
will
be
fine,
they
can
go
home.
Our
residents
will
continue
to
have
the
same
density
and
they've
continued
to
have
a
lower
property
value.
F
Right
now
we're
on
the
record
that
when
pickle
Plex
opens
there
we're
cutting
it
back
to
four
courts.
We've
heard
some
pleas
to
not
do
that.
We
haven't
addressed
that
issue
at
this
point
in
time.
If
we're
going
to
put
noise
abatement
up,
then
that
also
opens
up
the
question.
Do
we
want
to
spend
that
money
for,
for
course,
or
do
we
want
to
leave
eight
courts?
If
we
do
that
or
we're
gonna
have
a
committee
to
do
it's
a
compromise?
F
We
also
heard
of
the
operative
the
suggestion
that
may
help
about
staging
on
the
the
backside
of
the
pickleball
courts.
So
if
we're
going
to
be
going
to
four,
we
may
want
to
hope
to
hold
that
steady
until
such
time
that
the
committee,
which
is
going
to
have
a
finite
time,
it's
not
going
to
go
on
for
forever
finishes
it
so,
with
the
idea
of
progressing
towards
a
true
good,
legitimate,
permanent
solution
for
this,
for
the
best
of
all
to
Gorda,
so
I
see
that
is
possible
I've.
F
This
throne
has
a
possible
interim
of
going
to
stay
in
the
course
with
the
four
courts
and,
at
the
same
time,
charging
ourselves
to
then
follow
up
with
noise
abatement
upon
completion
of
the
committee
doing
their
work,
depending
on
what
their
recommendations
are
and
where
those
recommendations
were
are
be.
We
shouldn't
make
any
conclusions
right
now:
I,
don't
think.
D
That
we
do
have
an
expert
who
told
us
what
we
need
to
do.
Then.
The
gentleman
who
gave
us
this
dollar
amount
met
with
some
people
from
pickleball
and
he
told
them
how
much
of
the
court
needs
to
be
covered
to
maximize
the
sound
and
it's
not
the
whole
wall.
It's
that
that
short
part
before
the
gate.
Where
people
go
in
and
it's
then
a
half
law,
he
said
that
that
would
provide
adequate
coverage
and
I.
Don't
know
I
mean
you
got
an
expert.
D
H
H
F
H
One
existing
infants,
only
okay,
the
the
side
facing
toward
the
south
toward
Fisherman's
Village
that
side,
the
fence
is
adequate
with
a
couple
of
diagonal
braces
sure
on
the
side
facing
toward
the
north
along
Retta,
there
will
require
that
we
install
a
new
fence,
the
fence.
That's
there
is
only
four
feet
high
and
that
won't
provide
any
such
that
base.
So
what
would
be
the
cost
of
that
fence?.
E
F
F
F
A
F
F
Might
somebody
next
my
next
question
would
be
is
is
even
if
the
committee
comes
back
to
us.
We
don't
know
what
that
is,
that's
gonna
be,
and
it
might
be
a
long
term
solution,
not
a
short-term
solution
in
whatever
its
recommendation
B's.
If
it's
gonna
talk
about
moving
courts,
it's
gonna
to
another
location,
that's
gonna
require
issue
as
a
funding,
ground,
etc.
F
That's
gonna
have
a
time
to
so
I
just
turn
in
myself
time
in
terms
of
doing
a
noise
abatement,
even
if
it
was
temporary
it
Gilcrest
Park,
it's
gonna
be
for
a
very
significant
period
of
time.
It's
not
gonna
be
a
for
even
a
period
of
a
year.
It's
probably
gonna
be
a
period
of
at
least
a
year
or
it's
gonna
be
permanent
or
it's
gonna
be
a
year
plus
whatever
it
takes
to
to
implement.
F
C
D
Gonna
just
sit
here,
no
I
know
I
with
a
great
deal
of
reluctance
because
of
the
I.
Don't
want
to
look
like
we're
superseding
the
committee's
decision,
but
I
think
the
residents
they
at
least
deserve
some
sound
abatement
immediately
and
maybe
then
the
conversation
will
change.
We
don't
know
so.
I'm
I'm
in
favor
I
make
a
motion
that
we
bit
out
the
minimum
amount
of
fencing
it
takes
to
provide
what
the
expert
says
we
need
so.
H
Never
spoken
to
this
gentleman
I,
don't
know
that
is
we
met
a
contractor
out
there
for
the
fencing
and
told
him
what
we
were
looking
at
doing
and
that
was
I
was
given
direction
to
look
at
one
side,
two
sides:
three
sides,
four
sides
and
that's
what
we
got
pricing
floor,
but
I
don't
know
of
any
expert.
That's
given
us
any
direction.
Okay,.
B
H
D
D
E
B
C
F
I
G
F
B
A
A
E
E
J
D
A
A
J
Right
I'm,
sorry
before
we
move
on
I
feel
like
I,
really
need
to
say
something
about
the
pickleball
committee.
Y'all
have
been,
and
members
of
the
audience
have
been
saying.
Let's
wait
till
the
pickleball
committee
makes
their
recommendations
makes
their
recommendations
when
we
discussed
creation
of
the
pickleball
committee.
J
The
end
result
was
that
it
would
be
a
fact-finding
committee
only
they're
not
making
recommendations
to
you.
They
are
only
presenting
you
with
information,
some
of
which
it
seems
like
you
already
have,
but
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
that
that's
all
they're
doing
they're
not
going
to
be
coming
back
and
saying.
J
A
You
have
the
information
we
checked
with
water
states.
We
have
accepted
already
part
of
their
development
into
our
utility
system.
We
need
to
accept
the
other
part.
We
can
deal
with
the
annexation
thereafter
because
they
have
homeowners
associations
that
we
will
be
contacting
to
see
if
we
can
get
it
together.
But
this
is
a
utility
acceptance
issue
and
we've
already
accepted
part
of
their
development.
We
need
to
accept
the.
E
H
A
A
Now
this
this
is
more
of
an
informational
piece.
It's
to
keep
council
members
informed.
This
went
in
front
of
the
Punta
Gorda
isles
canal
maintenance
committee
to
move
forward
with
looking
at
dredging
of
Ponce
Inlet
to
seven
feet.
This
is
a
long
process.
This
doesn't
happen
overnight.
The
results
of
the
committee-
yes.
H
This
was
heard
yesterday
at
the
canal,
Advisory
Committee,
and
they
have
a
couple
of
concerns.
One
is
that
they
are
currently
out
for
a
consultant,
a
look
at
all
of
Ponce
Inlet.
As
far
as
dredging
with
and
and
all
of
that
and
also
they're
concerned
that
beyond
marker
one,
they
quoted
the
depth
as
being
four
point
eight.
H
B
I'll
speak
on
behalf
of
the
voters
Alliance,
because
I've
been
working
with
them.
This
happened
to
be
something
that
came
up
at
the
last
voters.
Alliance
meeting
one
of
the
gentlemen
in
the
organization
has
a
relatively
good
extensive
knowledge
of
depth.
Soundings
and
taking
depth.
Soundings,
went
out
and
took
several
hundred
depth
soundings
throughout
the
entire
fonts
Channel,
and
he
found
very
inconsistent
depth
readings
on
all
the
different
areas
that
he
checked,
and
so
he
did
a
whole
report
which
I
believe
I.
B
Think
council
already
got
that
report
I
think
it
was
forwarded
to
everybody
on
Council,
but
so
knowing
that
the
the
permitting
process
takes
a
long
time,
possibly
as
long
as
a
couple
of
years,
the
voters
Alliance
has
made
the
recommendation
that
we
start
the
process
of
looking
into
whether
we
can
dredge
to
seven
feet
and
that's
why
this
is
on
the
agenda
as
a
discussion
item.
Do
we
want
to
proceed
with
it?
Does
anybody
think
there's
any
merit
to
it?
That's
a
very
valid
point,
however.
B
E
But
my
question:
when
we
first
received
this
was:
why
is
it
being
sent
to
Council
and
I
know
from
my
experience
in
burnt
star
oils?
We
discuss
everything
you
know
with
in
bird
store,
aisles
and
and
and
then
we
bring
it
to
staff,
and
if
we
need
something
you
know
I
guess
we
would
come
to
Council.
But
you
know
Howard
said
well.
This
you
know
would
come
to
Council
for
approval.
Well
yeah.
E
It's
something
that
that
they
have
the
the
purview
to
work
out
and
working
to
their
plan
and
and
I
would
just
surprised
that
the
boated
alliance
is
bringing
it
to
us
rather
than
the
Punta
Gorda
I
was
canal
advisory,
so
I
just
think
it's
theirs
whatever
they
need
to
do
it's,
they
can
work
through.
So.
E
I
just
feel
like
that's
the
process,
you
know,
that's
why
we
have
the
canal
advisory
committee.
I
know
you
know
in
Brent's
trials.
We
certainly
do
that
in
and
have
a
number
of
things
on
the
agenda
and-
and
we
haven't
brought
it
to
council
to
say:
can
we
or
can't
wait?
It's
been
working
through
mark
and
Kathy,
Miller
and,
and
the
you
know,
excellent
can
now
maintenance
team
so
on
whatever
it
is
and
I.
You
know
whether
we
need
a
bathymetric
study
or
whatever
we
need
to
do
so.
A
Gonna
be
up
to
the
Punta
Gorda
Isles
canal,
Advisory
Committee,
to
how
far
they
want
to
move
on
this.
This
is
on
councils
agenda
for
informational
purposes,
so
that
you're
very
well
aware
of
what
they're
facing.
If
the
canal
maintenance
committee
doesn't
want
to
deal
with
it,
I
guess
they'll
make
a
recommendation
not
to
deal
with
it,
but
if
they
do,
it'll
have
to
come
out
within
the
funds
that
they
have.
A
The
only
reason
it's
on
the
agenda
is
typically
the
last
couple
of
years
staff
has
been
doing
them,
they're
much
they're,
very
informal.
It's
not
a
very
formal
meeting.
We
get
input
from
folks,
we
write
them
down
and
we
bring
them
to
City
Council
as
part
of
the
process.
No
decisions
are
made
just
information.
A
Does
City
Council
want
to
sponsor
the
meeting
and
actually
run
the
meeting,
or
do
you
want
to
continue
to
have
staff
just
do
it
on
an
informal
basis
schedule
it?
Obviously,
council
members
attend
and
listen
just
listen.
Well,
we're
willing
to
do
either
either
staff
continues.
We
do
it
continually
as
staff
leadership
or
the
City
Council
on
take
the
leadership.
This
farmers
getting
budget
input.
Now
City
Council
takes
the
leadership
role,
it's
going
to
be
formal,
it
will
be
in
here,
and
people
can
then
submit
and
come
up
and
provide
but
input
to
the
budget.
C
B
E
B
We
had
the
one
here
last
year
and
we
kind
of
sat
in
a
big
open
circle.
It
was
very,
very
open
communication
people
really
spoke
freely
and-
and
there
was
a
lot
of
really
good
ideas
that
were
brought
out
so
I-
think
that's
that's
a
format
we
should
stick
with,
because
people
tend
to
be
more
timid
in
a
formal
environment
like
this.
B
I
So,
as
you
know,
we
have
received
a
settlement
proposal
in
the
litigation
against
the
city
regarding
the
methodology
of
assessments
for
the
BSI
and
PGI
Canal
maintenance
assessment
districts.
All
lawyers
are
required
to
and
obligated
ethically
to
bring
their
settlement
proposals
to
their
clients
for
consideration
and
determination.
As
to
whether
or
not
the
settlement
proposal
is
appropriate,
whether
counterproposal
is
appropriate
and
and
so
there's
a
need
for
a.
I
Confidential
discussion
with
their
clients
regarding
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
litigation
and
be
able
to
have
you
intelligently
understand
how,
if
at
all,
to
settle
the
case.
Obviously
attorneys
that
are
operating
under
the
Sunshine
Law,
in
the
absence
of
an
exception
from
the
Sunshine
Law,
would
have
a
very
difficult
time
operating
on
a
level
playing
field
with
their
opposition
if
they
had
to
discuss
their
strategy
with
respect
to
a
case.
I
Okay
and
so
there's
a
very
express
exception
under
the
Florida
government
and
Sunshine
Law,
with
with
respect
to
the
opportunity
of
the
city
attorney
to
meet
with
the
City
Council
outside
of
the
Sunshine
Law
and
and
and
there
in
the
section
of
the
Sunshine
Law.
That
talks
about
this
meeting.
And
it's
it's
known
as
a
shade
meeting,
because
it's
not
ultimately
entitled
outside
of
the
Sunshine
Law.
I
Because
part
of
the
requirement
is
that
there'd
be
a
court
reporter
transcribing
the
meeting
which,
at
the
end
of
the
litigation,
becomes
a
record
that
the
public
can
see
how
the
the
City
Council
discussed
the
case
and
there's
also
other
specific
requirements.
In
order
to
be
able
to
conduct
the
meeting
consistent
with
the
requirements
of
law,
but
it's
very
clear
that
the
city
attorney
has
the
discretion
of
requesting
this
meeting
to
trigger
and
trigger
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
you
outside
of
the
public
eye
and
the
subject
matter
of
the
meeting
shall
be
confined.
I
We
need
to
identify
a
specific
day
and
time
for
that
meeting.
Reasonable
notice
will
need
to
be
made
public
as
to
when
that's
going
to
take
place
and
the
names
of
the
persons
who
will
be
attending
the
session
again,
because
this
is
a
regulated
private
meeting.
There
are
a
number
of
Hoops
that
we
have
to
go
through
in
order
to
have
that
take
place,
but
the
suggestion
that
this
is
an
illegal
meeting
just
is
not
accurate
under
the
provisions
of
the
law.
I
So
we
have
received
a
request
I'd
like
to
have
an
opportunity
to
discuss
the
the
settlement
proposal
with
you
to
discuss
case
strategy
so
that
you
can
give
me
direction
with
respect
to
how
to
proceed
upon
receipt
of
the
settlement
proposal.
Ultimately,
if
there
is
a
say,
if
there
is
a
settlement,
that's
going
to
be
agreed
upon
between
the
parties
that
proposed
settlement
will
have
to
come
before
you
for
your
vote
in
a
public
session.
I
So
this
shade
meeting
is
simply
you
to
give
me
direction
as
to
how
to
proceed
most
of
the
litigation
that
the
city
is
involved
in
is
represented
by
our
insurance,
attorneys
and
and
as
the
city
attorney
there's.
There
aren't
that
many
cases
that
myself
and
my
my
litigators
at
the
office
are
required
to
handle
on
behalf
of
the
city,
and
so
the
mere
fact
that
I
haven't
frequently
asked
for
shade
meetings
is
a
function
of
how
often
you
know.
I
More
recently,
the
Winter
Park
dodge
case
we
received
a
settlement
proposal
brought
it
before
you,
but
I
did
not
feel
that
there
wasn't
any
need
for
me
to
have
a
shade
meeting
to
get
your
input
regarding
the
response.
So
I
didn't
ask
for
one
in
the
Fisherman's
Village
litigation.
We
actually
didn't
receive
a
settlement
proposal,
so
I
would
not
have
been
an
imposition
to
request
a
shade
meeting
at
that
time.
So
this
is
the.
I
This
is
an
opportunity
now
that
we've
received
a
settlement
proposal
for
me
to
discuss
the
case,
the
strategy
of
the
case
and
seek
your
advice
as
to
how
you
want
to
respond
to
the
settlement
proposal,
and
so
we
could
do
it
at
the
next
after
the
next
city
council
meeting
or
whenever
you
believe
it
would
know.
Okay,
I
need
I
need
a
date
and
time
so
that
we
can
then
start
the
ball
rolling
for
having
a
meeting
the
the
notice
requirements
that
are
provided
for
in
the
statute.
That.
E
K
K
My
name
is
Miroslav
volcko
I'm,
one
of
the
two
plaintiffs
in
the
case
and
a
resident
of
Bern
star
Isle
since
2004
I
guess.
My
comments
would
be
appropriate
at
this
time,
unless
you
disagree
only
with
respect
to
the
issue
being
considered,
which
is
the
timing
of
a
meeting
and
I'd
like
to
just
address
that
and
I
can
address
more
if
permitted,
there's
a
sket.
K
There
is
scheduled
currently
a
motion
for
summary
judgment
that
we
have
filed
in
court
regarding
this
issue,
because
there
are
no
questions,
a
fact
that
we
see
it's
all
a
question
of
law.
That
hearing
is
scheduled
for
March
8th
I've,
been
requested
by
city
attorney
Levin
to
adjourn
that
date
and
I
indicated
that
I'm
willing
to
adjourn
it.
If
there's
an
indication
from
the
council
today
that
they
will
be
there
willing
to
consider
the
settlement
if
the
settlement
is
rejected
out
of
hand
or
a
meeting
is
rejected.
However,
you
want
to
handle
it.
K
I
This
as
I
tried
to
explain
this
is
the
opportunity
for
you
to
grant
my
request
for
a
meeting
at
which
time
you
can
consider
the
settlement
proposal.
You
can,
and
it's
certainly
your
prerogative,
because
it's
merely
a
request
on
my
part,
to
deny
my
request
and
to
totally
reject
the
settlement
proposal
without
hearing
from
your
attorney
with
respect
to
the
merits
thereof,
so
I
would
appreciate
you
know
if
you
would
grant
me
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
you.
I
understand
and
I.
I
Think
I
now
recall
that
that
the
March
8th
meeting
is
got
a
very
full
agenda,
so
I
mean
not
March.
6
meeting
has
a
very
full
agenda,
so
if
you
can
set
a
day
in
time
for
hearing
as
soon
as
practicable,
where
I
can
have
you
consider
the
settlement
proposal,
I
hope
that
that
would
be
satisfactory
to
opposing
counsel.
How.
I
K
I
G
E
G
F
H
K
K
K
K
I
It's
certainly
your
prerogative
to
have
a
special
meeting.
I,
don't
I
didn't
feel
like
it
was
necessary
to
have
a
special
meeting
since
this
could
be
held
after
a
regular
scheduled
meeting,
but
certainly
if
you
want
to
have
it
at
a
different
day
and
time,
you
have
the
prerogative
to
do
that,
I'm
simply
asking
for
for
the
meeting,
and
it
needs
to
be
done
so
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
reasonable
notice
to
be
published
before
that
shade
meeting
takes
place.
What.
E
I
A
I
K
I
K
K
E
K
L
K
L
L
J
Just
very
quickly,
under
boards
and
committees
vacancies
we
have
a
three-year
term
for
an
alternate
from
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
and
then
expired
term
for
an
alternate
on
the
building
board
and
an
unexpired
term
for
an
alternate
on
code
enforcement
board.
We
have
no
nominations
today
under
appointments.
J
B
J
E
Policy
and
legislation
next
week,
Linh
and
Debbie
and
I
are
going
to
be
attending
senator
Elizabeth
Bennet
Quiznos
pre-legislative
luncheon,
State
Senator
Bill
Capano
who's,
the
Senate
President
is
going
to
be
speaking
at
that
I
understand.
There
will
be
numerous
legislators
there
at
that
luncheon
as
well.
So
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
really
thank
them
for
their
support
and
and
so
and
then
in
the
afternoon
after
that,
Ben
Nelson
is
gonna
meet
with
us
separately,
which
is
good
I'm,
not
gonna
Nelson.
Why
miss
ain't.
H
E
C
Yeah
I'm
gonna,
be
it
intel,
has
he
that
day,
but
when
they
already
know
March
5th
at
Leroy's,
the
budget
house
museum
is
having
it's
a
taste
of
Africa
Leroy's
style.
So
it's
gonna,
be
it's
gonna,
promote
the
museum
and
it's
as
part
of
us
called
the
march
on
Museum.
B
Thanks
to
everyone
on
council,
for
going
to
the
military
heritage
museum
for
the
VIP
tours
I
hope
you
were
impressed
with
what
you
saw
and
we're
looking
forward
to
a
lot
of
great
things
over
there.
The
next
major
event
they're
going
to
be
holding
is
going
to
be
on
March
29th,
which
will
be
welcome-home.
Vietnam
veterans
and
details
are
still
being
worked
out
on
all
of
it,
but
and
they're
still
working
on
taking
possession
of
the
building.
B
E
M
And
I'm
sorry
to
come
back
up
here
again,
but
there
are
some
things
I
really
wanted
to
put
before
you.
First
of
all,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
noise
abatement.
As
I
said,
this
is
going
to
help
me
as
a
homeowner
a
great
deal,
but
I
did
want
to
point
out.
This
was
a
very
organized
group
today.
M
Obviously,
a
lively,
dedicated,
passionate
group
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
passionate
about
them
is
that
they
love
Gilcrest,
Park
and
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
that
they're,
not
the
only
ones
that
love
Gilcrest
Park.
There
are
other
Park
users
that
aren't
organized
that
maybe
passionate
about
the
park,
but
because
they
aren't
organized
their
voices,
isn't
being
heard.
The
way
you
saw
today,
okay
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
about
that
particular.
M
General
overall
impression
is
they
love,
Gilchrist,
Park,
so
much
that
it
is.
It
appears
that
it's
going
to
be
the
chosen
venue
for
pickleball
above
pickle
plex,
so
overflow
may
go
to
pickle
Plex,
but
Parc
appears
to
be
the
favored
place
to
play,
which
is
great
for
them,
but
not
great
for
us,
as
a
neighborhood.
I
also
wanted
to
point
out
that
somebody
said
that
nobody
ever
said
all
four
sides
of
abatement
would
be
needed
and
I
know
that
in
every
time
I
have
mentioned.
Noise
abatement.
M
I
have
said
that
we
would
need
all
four
sides,
and
that's
because
other
Park
users
are
going
to
be
affected
by
that
cone.
That
will
help
the
the
neighborhood
but
not
help
the
other
park
users
when
they
are
getting
that
radiating
noise
and
the
noise.
The
fact
is,
if
the
pickleball
committee
comes
back
and
says
that
they
did
decibel
studies,
and
the
decibel
study
saw
this
I
wanted
to
make
sure
you
understood
again
that
we're
talking
about
something
and
I
think
they
it's
a
small
world
is
something
that
I
brought
up.
M
You
also
could
imagine
somebody
playing
ping-pong
in
one
room
of
your
house,
and
you
know
your
house
having
acoustics
such
that
you
could
hear
at
any
room.
The
decibels
may
not
bear
out
that
this
is
a
noisy
noise
problem
in
terms
of
intensity,
but
that
doesn't
mean
it's
not
a
big
problem
for
those
of
us
that
have
lived
with
it
and
about
the
pickleball
committee
that
is
being
formed.
M
It's
going
to
be
very
heavily,
obviously
from
what
you've
seen
today
and
from
the
fact
that
it's
going
to
be
composed
of
one
person
from
every
district
and
two
players,
I
believe
I,
think
you're
going
to
find
that
the
players
are
going
to
dominate
that
committee
and
one
of
the
players
that
came
up
and
requested
to
be
on
the
committee
today
representing
a
district
said
that
she
was
hoping
to
sort
of
her
fellow
pickleball
pickleball
players.
I
would
like
to
see
in
serving
the
whole
community.
Thank
you.
L
I
would
not
want
to
live
across
from
continuous
noise,
even
if
the
intensity
wasn't
that
much.
The
fact
that
it's
continuous
would
great
would
be
grading
and
I
do
find
that
that
would
that
changes
the
atmosphere
of
the
park
for
people
that
that
appreciate
the
serenity
of
the
place.
The
second
thing
in
terms
of
the
lawsuit
we
need
an
endpoint
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
the
attorney.