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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 03-06-19 Part 4
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A
Put
great
strains
on
the
city's
budget:
your
tax
base,
your
property
tax
base,
fell
by
35%
from
its
peak
in
2008,
down
to
to
2013,
you've
been
growing
back,
but
you're
still
about
11%
short
of
where
you
were
in
28
2008,
so
that
you
all
were
very
good
stewards
of
the
money
you
had
to
make
some
very
hard
decisions
and
the
strategies
of
deferring
capital
projects
and
maintenance,
cutting
selectively
cutting
staff
positions
and
and
holding
on
holding
pay.
Pretty
steady,
helped
you
get
through
this.
A
This
financial
crisis
and
you're
you're
still
seeing
some
some
of
the
impacts
of
that
in
terms
of
you
know,
pay
scales
that
don't
match
those
in
competitive
communities
or
comparable
communities.
You've
taken
action
as
a
city
council
last
July
to
try
to
remedy
some
of
those
pay
disparities,
so
that
will
that
would
be
useful,
there's
still
a
backlog
of
unfunded
capital
projects
as
you've
caught
up
with
some
of
the
deferred
maintenance
that.
A
45
percent
of
your
budget
comes
from
ad
valorem
property
taxes.
That's
not
unusual
relative
to
other
communities,
because
you
tend
to
keep
your
the
difference
would
would
be
whether
it's
in
the
tax
rate
or
it's
in
a
service
fee.
So
that's
not
so
unusual.
What's
different
is
that
you
know
almost
90
percent
of
your
taxes
come
from
residential
property,
and
that
means
that
most
of
the
burden
is
on
the
residential
taxpayer.
A
You
don't
have
the
big
commercial
projects
that
pay
much
higher,
much
higher
rates
or
higher
values.
It
also
means
that
you
have
some
particular
constraints
related
to
the
legislative
environment
in
which
you
operate
so
to
save
our
our
homes.
Constitutional
amendment
means
that
your
property
value
as
an
individual
homeowner
can't
be
assessed
for
more
than
cannot
increase
by
more
than
the
inflation
rate
or
the
or
3%.
A
So
that
means
even
though
the
property
values
have
recovered
the
assessed
values
haven't
recovered.
You
lost
a
lot
on
your
your
value
of
your
house.
It's
it
came
back
over
four
or
five
years,
but
your
assessment
may
not
have
come
back
to
where
it
used
to
be,
and
that's
why
we
see
we're
still
11%
lower.
A
For
most
communities,
it's
the
growth
in
new
development
that
helps
them
and
commercial
development,
which
is
not
similarly
constrained
on
the
assessment
policies
that
help
balance
that
out
that
helped
the
city
state
financially
strong,
in
spite
of
those
constraints
from
the
legislature
but
you're
you're
constrained,
then
in
your
ability
to
do
that,
and
what
it's
meant
one
of
the
really
concerning
pieces
is
this
level
of
fiscal
reserves
in
your
budget.
So
the
government
financial
officers
association
suggests
that
a
city
should
have
about
two
months
worth
of
operating
funds
in
reserve
for
natural
disasters.
A
You
know
another
hurricane
for
an
economic
downturn
or
unexpected
projects
that
are
not
in
your
budget.
You
need
to
be
able
to
respond
to
emergencies
and
to
unforeseen
circumstances.
Right
now,
the
city's
reserves
are
a
little
under
8%,
as
opposed
to
sixteen
point,
seven
percent
that
a
two
month
Reserve
would
suggest
to
give
you
some
some
reference.
Ormond
Beach
is
that
15%
in
their
reserves
and
tarpon
springs
is
at
20%
in
their
reserve.
So
it's
the
city,
has
a
long-term
goal
to
increase
its
reserves
by
half
a
point
a
year.
A
A
So
our
next
piece
was
to
prepare
a
fiscal
model
so
that,
as
we
go
forward
and
we
test
different
concepts
in
the
plan
next
week,
we
can
understand
what
that
means
for
the
budget
so
for
the
operating
budget
from
the
general
fund.
When
we
take
all
the
development
I
just
outlined
before
the
office
retail
housing
development
over
the
next
10
years,
that
would
increase
your
general
fund
operating
budget
by
1.7
to
2.9
million.
So
that's
eight
to
fourteen
percent
increase
as
a
result
of
the
new
construction
on
the
capital
side.
A
A
This
excludes
the
water
sewer
utilities
fund,
because
that
is
set
up
as
an
Enterprise
Fund,
that's
self
funding.
So
it's
it's
designed
to
be
self-sustaining
and
not
included
in
these
numbers,
but
I
wanted
to
illustrate
a
couple
of
the
concerns
and
the
things
that
will
affect
what
we're
doing
planning
in
the
physical
planning
efforts
next
week.
A
One
of
those
is
the
concept
of
opposing
new
development,
particularly
opposing
commercial
development
and
what
that
means
financially
for
the
city
so
from
that
full
development
program,
if
we
were
to
say
so
on
the
high
end,
that
gave
us
2.9
million
dollars
in
new
operating
revenues
for
the
general
fund.
If
we
were
to
say
we
don't
like
commercial
development,
we
don't
want
to
see
that
that
new
office
and
retail
development
we
want
to
just
stay
a
residential
community
that
would
drop
to
2.6
million
dollars.
A
But
if
we
were
to
say
we
really
don't
like
density,
we
really
don't
like
multifamily
and
condominium
development,
and
we
only
want
to
see
new
single-family
development.
Then
the
increase
would
be
only
1.6
percent.
So
that's
45
percent
less
than
a
full
mix
of
development
over
the
next
10
years,
as
we
look
for
what
that
means
for
how
much
of
the
taxes
depend
on
the
residential
tax
base.
A
Currently
it's
eighty
eight
point:
seven
percent
of
your
the
tax
base
is
residential
in
nature,
with
the
full
development
that
we
talked
about.
It's
still
not
going
to
move
the
needle
very
much
on
that
we'd
be
at
eighty
nine
point,
two
percent
in
2030
with
full
development.
If
we
went
residential
only
though
we
the
residents
would
be
beholden
to
support.
Ninety
seven
percent
of
the
expenditures
so
you'd
become
even
more
I'm,
really
extremely
dependent
on
residential
tax
base
and
the
same,
if
you
went
with
only
single-family
development,
so
then
just
to
expand
on
that
and.
A
The
remaining
land
that
you
have
available
if
we
do
just
single-family
detached
houses
at
about
four
per
acre
that
gives
the
city
about
eighty
six
hundred
dollars
a
year
in
annual
revenues
to
the
general
fund.
If
we
do
Bourbon
style
kind
of
multifamily
housing
that,
with
surface
parking,
that's
much
lower,
that's
much
higher
density
than
single
families,
but
less
than
less
than
the
optimal.
A
That
would
give
you
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
annual
revenue
for
per
acre
and
if
we
go
to
condominiums,
which
have
higher
value
per
unit,
that
same
kind
of
surface
parking
strategy
would
give
us
twenty,
almost
twenty
seven
thousand
dollars
per
acre.
So
really
major
differences.
You
know
three
times
as
much
under
the
condominium
development
than
what
you
receive
from
a
single-family
development
and
on
an
acre
with
some
more
examples
unattached
units
we
did
a
fairly
conservative
eight
units
per
acre
for
sort
of
like
patio
homes.
A
A
Structured
parking
for
multifamily
development
at
like
four
storeys,
would
give
you
forty
two
thousand
dollars
per
per
acre
so
again
compared
to
less
than
nine
thousand
for
the
single
family
units
and
the
condominiums
with
structured
parking
again
because
they
have
a
greater
value
per
unit,
would
be
almost
fifty
four
thousand
dollars
per
acre.
So
really
very
distinct
and
major
decisions
are
implied
as
you
go
forward
and
make
choices
among
what
kind
of
development
what
density
of
developments
you'll
allow
in
the
future.
A
Some
one
last
example
was
specifically
looking
at
the
city
marketplace,
so
this
is
is
just
an
example.
It's
it's
not
designed.
Yet
we
will
have
multiple
designs
during
the
Charette
and
chances
to
to
work
through
all
of
those
questions,
but
just
to
give
you
some
idea
of
what's
at
stake
in
that
development.
A
From
a
what
we
call
a
for
effort,
full
floor
area
ratio
which
says
for
every
foot
of
ground,
we
can
build
four
feet
of
building,
so
that
would
give
you
about
a
five
or
a
six
story.
Building
on
the
site,
we
could
accommodate
in
total
about
twenty
five
thousand
square
feet
of
retail,
which
would
about
mirror.
A
So
our
next
step
is
to
take
this
model
and
apply
it
to
annexation
areas.
That's
the
other
way
that
the
city
can
grow
and
can
increase
its
general
fund
increase.
The
tax
base
is
to
annex
new
areas,
particularly
areas
that
have
commercial
development
already
or
have
opportunities
for
commercial
development,
so
we'll
be
going
through
each
of
the
annexation
areas
that
the
city
has
identified
as
possible
and
testing.
What
does
it
mean
for
the
city's
budget
to
do
those
annexations,
so
that
will
be
part
of
our
focus
next
week
as
we
move
forward.
A
So
just
to
sum
up
in
terms
of
what
I
take
away
from
this
analysis
relative
to
the
planning
effort.
Is
that
a
better
balance
and
diversity
within
the
city
of
the
tax
base,
the
population
the
housing
stock
will
make
you
north
stainable
will
help
you
become
more
better
balanced
in
terms
of
the
people
who
live
here
can
also
work
here
can
also
live
here
kind
of
concern.
You
need
to
grow
the
downtown
to
keep
it
healthy
and
competitive.
A
It's
really
it's
really
the
festivals
and
the
events
that
are
keeping
those
businesses
going,
they're,
very
seasonal
and
if
they
don't
make
their
money
in
three
months,
they're
they're
out
of
business.
And
so
that's
that's
a
key
concern.
So,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
grow
the
year-round
population,
particularly
the
downtown
population,
where
people
can
walk
to
the
restaurants,
walk
to
the
stores.
That
will
be
very
important
for
those
that
business
base
going
forward.
A
I
think
you
should
plan
for
a
full
range
of
new
housing
types,
so
not
not
just
the
the
waterfront
single-family
houses,
the
condominiums,
but
also
some
small
multifamily,
so
something
on
you
know
with
for
multifamily
units
and
a
building
that
looks
like
a
house.
There
are
a
lot
of
options
that
we
can
be
exploring
and
we'll
we'll
look
at
some
of
those
during
the
planning
effort
and
then,
finally,
if
we
emphasize
mixed
juice,
infill
development
in
walkable
communities
that
are
well
connected
to
the
business
amenities
to
the
waterfront
and
to
the
rest
of
the
community.
A
B
C
D
C
Industrial
park
there
and
keep
in
mind
that
the
city
is
bringing
on
four
million
gallons
of
water
right
now,
with
the
capacity
to
expand
it
for
another
four
million
gallons
or
total
8
million
gallon
capacity
expansion,
and
this
this
body
here
is
already
taking
proactive
measures
to
a
higher
consulting
firm
for
the
potential
for
future
waste
treatment
and
sewer
so
proactively.
We
have
that
and
that
those
are
high-level,
sustainable
jobs
that
aren't
so
based
on
what
you're
saying
some
of
our,
and
they
are
part
of
that.
I
would
implore
you
to
take
that.
Please.
A
A
E
B
Just
want
to
say
one
thing:
I
was
very
disappointed
in
the
initial
presentation
that
was
given
to
us
in
our
city
council
package
today,
and
it
would
have
been
extremely
helpful
to
have
a
70
page
document
last
Friday
with
the
rest
of
the
council
package.
I
didn't
have
time
to
read
it
I'll,
be
very
honest:
I
read
part
of
it.
I
didn't
have
time
in
36
hours,
816
of
which
we're
sleeping
hours,
I'm
36
hours,
I
had
a
lot
of
other
things
to
do.
Yesterday.
B
I
did
not
have
time
to
read
this
document
and
it's
it's
not
fair
to
the
council
members
who
are
supposed
to
be
voting
and
approving
things
that
we
don't
have
the
information
on
a
timely
basis.
But
the
initial
document
to
me
was
useless.
I
could
have
written
that
on
the
back
of
a
cocktail
napkin
at
a
bar
and
I'm
being
very
serious,
I
I'm
I
want
to
see
more
productivity
on
the
part
of
Dover
call
if
we're
gonna
move
forward
with
this
project.
B
A
We
will
be
here
all
next
week
and
very
happy
to
answer
any
questions
to
sit
down
with
any
of
you
who
would
like
to
go
through
it
and
more
detail.
And
if
there
are
questions
that
you
like
us
to
answer
specifically
in
terms
of
the
modeling
I'd,
be
happy
to
do
that
as
well
as
I
apologize
for
the
other.
E
It's
like
you,
know
we're
we're
this,
we're
it
where's
everything
else
and
and
I
had
a
lot
on
my
calendar
yesterday,
because
I'm
getting
ready
to
go
out
of
town
for
a
few
days,
but
I
did
stop
and
put
other
things
aside
and
did
go
through
it,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
valuable
information
in
there
and
I
know
that
the
Dover
coal
comes
highly
recommended
by
when
I
was
at
the
southwest
for
the
League
of
Cities
meeting
and
mentioned
that
you
all
were
doing
the
the
master
plan.
For
us.
E
A
A
F
A
lighter
note,
I
wasn't
LIC
Thomasville
this
last
weekend,
I
saw
like
the
effect
of
adorable
coal
in
the
community.
They
really
just
restore
alized
and
really
just
put
shot.
Some
really
good
energy
into
it
was
a
very
successful
and
he
say
rebirth
of
their
town
was
done
very
well,
so
I
feel
confident
well.
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Thank
You
policy
and
legislation.
Last
last
week
when
w
and
I
attended
the
legislative
lunch
the
Senator
Bennet
cousteau,
had
there
were
a
lot
of
legislators
there,
including
the
senate
president
bill
galvano
and
then
that
afternoon,
as
well
as
our
own
senator
then
I'll
Britain.
In
that
afternoon,
then
we
had
a
meeting
with
Senator
operatin.
It
was
a
great
meeting,
a
great
discussion
with
him
he's
a
very
open
person.
E
Absolutely
willing
to
you
know,
wants
to
good
communicator,
so
it
was
a
pleasure
I'm.
Also
getting
rachel
has
been
forwarding
information
from
that
she's
getting
from
the
League
of
Cities.
As
far
as
conference
calls
and
and
added
me
to
the
list,
I
can
forward
that
of
anybody.
This
there's
Monday
morning
conference
calls
if
anybody
wants
to
participate
in
those.
J
My
daughter
has
three:
we
have
a
silver
Scout
in
our
that
was
just
sort
of
like
the
equivalent
of
the
Eagle
Scout,
if
you're
a
boy
and
at
this
current
time,
60%
of
the
women
in
Congress,
our
Girl
Scout
alone
and
I-
think
that
that
is
a
big
plus
I.
Think
that
says
a
lot
for
the
work
that
all
the
millions
of
volunteers
have
done.
J
C
E
C
Was
she
was
one
of
the
the
judges
for
the
the
best
culinary
delectables
that
we
have
at
the
offer
punta
gorda?
I
just
like
to
say
on
behalf
of
the
Rotary
Club.
It
was
a
wonderful
event.
Last
year
they
had
approximately
2,000
attendees
this
year
the
gate
was
3750
far
beyond
it.
There
was
a
rumor
that
we
were
able
to
squelch
that
we
were
running
out
of
beer.
Fortunately,
our
vendor
was
able
to
do
an
emergency
route
and
we
did
not
run
out
of
beer.
C
B
Two
quick
things:
I
have
a
pet
project
as
well.
Many
people
know
I'm
on
the
board
of
directors
for
the
military
heritage
museum
on
March
29th
at
11:00
a.m.
we
were
going
to
be
having
an
event
called
welcome
home
Vietnam
veterans.
Anyone
who
served
in
the
military
and
Vietnam
is
welcome
to
attend.
Actually
anybody's
really
welcome
to
attend
it's
open
to
the
public,
but
it
will
be
honoring.
The
Vietnam
veterans
and
I've
been
asked
by
the
board
of
directors.
B
If
the
council
would
consider
writing
a
letter
of
support
for
the
museum
over
the
course
of
the
next
couple
of
years,
there's
going
to
be
many
times
when
they're
going
to
need
to
solicit
financial
support
from
different
entities
and
they're.
Looking
for
some
letters
of
support
from
various
governmental
entities
and
other
communities
that
will
provide
some
backup
assistance
for
just
giving
a
good
word
on
their
behalf.
B
The
best
way
to
do
it
like
to
do
that
in
the
month
of
April,
when
we
get
ready
for
the
grand
opening
we're
talking
about
April
15
is
going
to
be
the
week
that
we
are
planning
on
doing
this.
This
opening
we're
gonna
have
a
ribbon-cutting,
it's
unofficial,
yet
because
we're
still
working
out
the
logistics
of
all
the
timing,
but
I'd
like
to
do
it
maybe
the
week
before.
Maybe
it's
the
first
meeting
in
April
once
we
firm
up
the
opening
day,
the
best.
B
And
thank
you
to
Fisherman's
Village.
We
just
took
possession
of
the
building
a
week
ago
and
things
are
just
moving
ahead:
full
steam
ahead
and
they've
already
started
moving
some
of
the
display
stuff
in
the
office
facilities
and
everything.
So
it's
it's
really
getting
exciting,
I'm,
really
really
looking
forward
to
a
world-class
Museum
being
there.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
support.
Welcome.
D
I
F
E
Thank
you
I
also
say
this
Saturday
I'm
be
presenting
the
proclamation
at
the
archway
Institute's,
a
golf
and
tennis
fundraiser
over
20
else,
Country
Club.
The
work
they
do
is
is
just
amazing,
and
it's
incredible
when
you
don't,
you
really
don't
know
the
number
of
families
that
are
struggling
with
people
who
have
of
situations
and
I
just
have
a
friend
who
lost
a
son
over
the
weekend,
and
so
it's
just
it's
touching
so,
okay.
Well
now
it's
time
for
citizen
comments,
you
have
please
come
to
the
podium.
L
Bradford
gamblin
president
upon
Agora,
rotary
and
I
am
pleased
to
be
here
to
thank
the
city
and
the
City
Council
and
the
wonderful
place
in
which
we
live
for
providing
flashlight
Park,
where
we
had
our
taste
of
Punta
Gorda
this
last
weekend
and
as
Gary
alluded
to,
we
have
raised
a
tremendous
amount
of
money
compared
to
previous
years.
We've
had
a
very
successful
park.
We
had
a
our
party
taste
of
Punta
Gorda.
We
had
30
restaurants,
thirty,
seven
hundred
and
fifty
guests.
Perhaps
more
and
we
ran
out
of
beer.
L
We
ran
out
of
ice,
we
ran
out
of
cups,
but
we
managed
somehow
to
make
it
all
work
and
gary
was
there
working
as
as
we're
54
51
members
of
our
club
and
plus
their
wives
and
children
and
50
young
students
from
charlotte
high
school
or
a
part
of
our
Rotaract
program
that
we
sponsor
there.
So
I
all
these
proceeds
will
be
going
back,
not
all,
but
most
will
be
going
back
to
the
community.
Some
go
in
the
form
of
exchange
student
program.
L
We
have
an
outbound
and
inbound
student
to
the
high
school
this
year
here
in
Punta
Gorda,
and
we
continue
with
scholarships
every
year
for
I.
Don't
know
how
many
years
our
club
has
been
in
existence
since
1923,
so
we're
not
too
far
away
from
a
hundred
year
celebration
in
Goryeo
I
just
wish
to
thank
everyone
that
participated,
but
I
especially
wish
to
thank
the
city
and
the
people
of
our
city
who
participate
and
help
us
be
able
to
do
things
that
we
and
thank
you
all.
J
M
Lenore
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
Smart
Growth
Penta
Gorda
last
night,
the
city
were
graciously
allowed
Mitchell
Austin
to
come
before
the
group
of
citizens
at
the
PPACA.
She
spoke
to
70
students
residents
about
form-based
codes
that
was
very
well
received.
There
were
extremely
intelligent
questions
asked
which
he
very
thoroughly
answered.
If
you
are
not
familiar
with
form
based
codes,
we
at
Smart
Growth
suggest
that
you,
google,
the
term
because
we
think
that
this
part
of
the
future
of
Punta
Gorda.
M
I
K
Years
back,
you
lost
a
baby
eagle
on
the
town
park,
I
golf
on
the
golf
course
we
have
and
I
watch
all
the
birds.
My
problem
is
I'm,
going
to
Road
aside
risk
of
pose
the
greatest
discs
of
secondary
poison
for
wild
animals.
Dogs
in
that
include
that
one
of
them
listed
is
wrong.
More
don't
let
alone
I
called
all
around
the
areas.
I've
called
Washington.
They
told
me
to
come,
see
you
people
best,
decides
that
we
put
out
in
boxes.
K
K
Yesterday,
you
got
to
eagle
nests
right
now,
according
to
the
wildlife
thing,
and
you
got
one
over
an
alligator
Creek
addenda
condominium
complex
sunday
on
your
cuesta
they're.
Using
the
same
thing,
the
boxes
are
before
our
place
were
on
the
lake
right
there
on
the
across
the
street
from
right
across
the
street
from
the
from
the
park.
They
have
over
20
boxes
of
poison.
We
have
rabbits
everywhere,
we're
down
the
leg.
Two
big
rabbits
left,
I
called
the
place
down
here
in
Key
West.
She
said
that
will
kill
rabbits.
K
It
will
kill
everything
as
a
secondary
poison
kills
around.
It
will
kill
wrench
eco
bird
I
called
the
government
and
get
nowhere
with
them.
Wildlife
I
got
nowhere
them.
I
personally
watched
for
turkey,
vultures
protective
$15,000
fine
six
months
in
prison,
eight
in
one
of
the
rabbits
for
turkey
vultures
right
there.
K
K
Like
I
said
we
have
over
20
boxes
and
then
there
are
place
also
put
up
for
from
our
tree.
Houses
I'm
just
afraid
that
the
Eagles
and
the
Raptor
birds
are
there,
gonna,
be
done.
They're
gonna
be
eating,
squirrels
the
rats,
everything
and
you're
not
going
to
stop
the
rats.
It's
a
proven
fact
of
whoring
out
we
more
rats
in
natural
predators,
health,
san
francisco's,
bandit
san
francisco,
Tampa's
ban
them
saying
that,
though,
had
a
big
problem
with
them.
I,
don't
know
what
to
do.
I
mean
I've.
Seen
these
boxes
going
up
everywhere.
K
Now,
I,
don't
know
where
it's
gonna
stop
I,
don't
think.
There's
gonna
be
new
or
Raptor
bird
left
down
the
road
and
I
your
wildlife
thing
is
there
crying
I
mean
I
talked
to
him.
I
went
to
the
concert
the
other
day,
I'm
gonna
talk
to
him
twice:
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
any
answer.
You
keep
putting
the
boxes
out.
I
know
Sweden
a
lot
of
places,
Hawaii
they're
using
the
a2
for
cartridge,
but
the
news
in
82
for
cartridge
does
work.
It
rat
goes
up,
gets
it
gets
killed,
something
eats
it.
It's
fine!
N
N
Jaeger
I
live
on
red
Esplanade
council
members.
Thank
you
once
again
for
an
opportunity
to
speak.
At
the
last
meeting,
the
council
faced
a
number
of
players
all
making
a
virtual
virtue
of
necessity
coming
out
in
favor
of
noise
abatement.
Fencing
I
feel
the
need
to
explain
by
using
the
councilmembers
own
words
where
the
notion
of
putting
this
abatement
fencing
in
the
park
came
from
India
pres
Park
first
came
from
councilman
wine
during
the
January
2nd
discussion.
This
is
a
direct
quote.
None
of
this
is
in
the
written
record
of
the
meeting.
N
This
is
from
the
video
recording
where
I
went
in
and
transcribed
directly
and
it's
a
minute
27.
Here's.
My
reason
this
is
the
quote:
here's
my
reasoning
for
it.
It
will
probably
look
be
looking
pretty
obnoxious
and
will
force
us
to
keep
our
eye
on
the
long
term
solution
to
make
this
right,
instead
of
letting
it
fall
by
the
wayside.
N
As
in
the
original
conversation
that
Nancy
and
I
and
the
council
had
when
we
talked
about
noise
abatement
three
years
ago,
three
years
ago,
then
councilman
wine
mentioned
the
pickleball
courts
and
Pitt's
in
Boulder,
Colorado
and
I.
Can
only
say
for
me
that
was
an
image
that
retains
a
certain
charm,
despite
our
water
table
problem,
then
slightly
before
the
four
options
were
put
to
a
motion
and
approved
mayor
prat
key
said
at
minute:
34.
N
The
question
I
have
for
jaha
is:
is
this
solution
which
we
all
agree
is
a
temporary
solution
and
again
a
minute
37?
She
reiterated
we
agree
that
it's
a
temporary
solution,
but
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
Now
the
point
I'm
making
is
that
all
of
these
are
on
the
video
recording.
But
none
of
this
is
in
the
written
minutes
for
the
meeting
that
were
approved.
So
it
looks
like
these
things
were
all
approved,
but
not
in
nowhere
does.
It
say
this
was
before
the
voting
presented
as
temporary
solutions.
N
Okay,
and
what
I
worry
about?
What
I'm
getting
hints
of
already
is
that
the
expense
and
appearance
of
dispensing
in
our
pretty
park
an
increase
in
costs
of
kicking
this
down.
The
road
will
be
blamed
on
us
on
the
neighborhood,
to
our
detriment,
to
the
further
delay
of
a
permanent
resolution.
My
neighbors
don't
deserve
any
of
this
late
at
their
doors.
They
don't
deserve
any
further
delay.
There
will
be
sixteen
permanent
courts
available
soon
at
pickle
Plex
and
ninety
additional
courts
elsewhere
in
the
county.
N
O
I
just
want
to
thank
for
your
work.
We
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
able
to
let
go
these
charettes
and
I've
lived
in
places
where
that
just
doesn't
happen.
You
know
and
we're
very
happy
with
the
job
you're
doing
I,
don't
envy
you
at
all.
God
bless
you
you're
doing
it
I'm
not
doing
it
and
we're
looking
forward
to
Monday
the
main
reason
I
came
here:
I
wouldn't
make
sure
the
Peace
River
Wildlife
Center
was
taken
care
of
we
thank
you.
All
right
have
a
good
day.
Keep
up
your
good
work.
Thank.
B
D
Don
sabattini
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I,
don't
know
how
you
guys
are
able
to
work
effectively
with
the
sunshine
loss.
I
ran
many
teams
and
work
in
her
departments
for
30
years
in
corporate
America,
and
there
was
no
way
I
could
have
got
my
job
done
if
I
couldn't
talk
to
other
department
heads.
So
what
I
want
to
ask
you
to
do
is
to
be
patient
in
these
City
Council
meetings
take
as
long
as
it
takes
if
we're
here
till
3
o'clock.
D
P
Niles
Gateway
point,
as
it
was
just
mentioned
by
the
other
gentleman
really
sincerely.
Thank
you
and
a
little
hope
here
with
pickle.
The
pickle
board
remember
last
year
what
you
all
went
through
what
we
all
went
through
with
Gilchrist
Park
and
the
guitar
army.
Well,
I
went
over
there
and
I'm
gonna
keep
going
back
and
you
know
the
place
is
packed.
You
have
all
of
these
musicians,
all
under
a
large
circle
all
the
way
around.
It's
not
a
tiny
bit
now
we're
showing
up
it's
large.
All
the
people
are
bringing
their
places
to
sit
again.
P
There's
no
parking
on
the
grass.
There
is
parking
that
are
in
the
side
streets.
So
through
all
of
this
process,
we
are
muddling
our
way
through
to
things
that
actually
work.
So
you
know
going
I
do
have
some
things
that
I'm
going
to
be
paying
attention
to
to
try
to
understand
better
I'm,
trying
to
understand
how
Punta
Gorda
we've
talked
about
getting
higher
and
issues
that
people
might
have
with
height
building
heights
and
I'm
also
watching
about
the
annexation.
What
does
that
mean
we're
going
to
be
in
so
many
years?
Where
are
we
going?
P
The
other
thing
is
living
downtown
when
you
talk
of
living
downtown
and
how
that
affects
something
like
say
a
restaurant,
and
that
a
restaurant
owner
I
think
their
idea
is
to
try
to
have
a
hundred
percent
capacity
year-round.
Well,
what's
going
to
happen
when
the
tourists
come
and
the
snowbirds
come
back,
are
we
all
going
to
be
in
long
lines
holding
those
things
like
they
do
in
Sarasota?
They
get
don't
put
it
in
your
pocket
because
they
have
vibrators
that
they
vibrate
that
they
label
air
lights.
P
They
make
sounds
to
tell
you
that
your
tables
ready
so
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
that
perspective
of
what
the
business
community
the
restaurant
owner
is
looking
for
when
they
want
hundred
percent
year-round.
The
other
last
thing
has
to
do
with
affordable
housing.
I
was
taken
aback
last
night,
upstairs
I
found
out
more
that
one
of
our
renters
up
in
my
building
of
a
gateway
point
built
in
the
70s
three
thousand
dollars
to
rent
a
month
and
I'm.