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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 04-04-18 Part 2
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A
C
C
In
the
evenings,
but
no
overnight
and
surprisingly,
we
have
very
very
few
people
parking
overnight.
We
do
have
a
dinghy
dock
within
the
in
the
basin
that
people
can
use
if
they
want
to
come
in
use
our
showers.
There
is
a
fee
and
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
much
that
is,
but
if
they
want
to
use
the
showers
and
the
pool
I'm,
not
sure
about
those
people,
parking
I
just
wrote
a
note
to
ask
my
harbor
master
because
parking
I'm,
not
sure
of
that.
So.
B
C
We
see
on
our
what
we
call
courtesy
dock
and
that's
on
the
entire
west
side,
behind
Scotty's,
all
in
front
of
harpin
Harry's
and
then
a
little
bit
on
the
east
side
that
they
can
park.
And
what
we
see
is
people
coming
in
for
the
day
to
have
lunch
and
dinner
and
it's
primarily
during
the
day
rather
than
the
evening
they
come
in.
And
then
they
turn
around.
And
somebody
else
comes
in
and
there's
occasions
when
it's
completely
full,
especially
in
season
it'll,
be
completely
full.
B
D
See
on
this
note,
I
I
think
we
can't
fail
to
remember
this.
Is
it
a
doctor,
not
a
marina
one
in
terms
of
winning
Gilchrist,
but
two
I
don't
see
why
we
can't
just
have
an
ordinance,
have
these
rules
Stan,
but
have
it
so
the
officer
has
discretion
in
terms
of
just
dealing
with
people
in
their
life
conditions.
I,
don't
see
why
we
need
to
do
anything.
Other
don't
have
our
rules.
E
E
This
is
what
the
respected
Gilchrist,
okay
and
I
understand
that
there
seems
to
be
a
consensus
that
the
regulations
that
are
in
paragraph
B
in
the
ordinance
relating
to
day
dogs
are
arcs,
are
reasonable
and
would
be
applicable
to
Gilchrist,
but
for
the
overnight
parking
o
overnight
docking
situation.
So
how
about?
If
we
modify
the
first
numbered
paragraph
to
say,
except
for
those
vessels
for
which
a
city
permit
has
been
issued
overnight,
docking
is
prohibited
between
the
hours
of
1:00
a.m.
and
5:00
a.m.
then
we
add
a
new
paragraph.
E
E
F
B
E
B
F
Squeezing
it
would
actually
looking
at
the
picture
up
there,
you
could
have
the
interior
of
the
floating
dock
designated
for
the
permitted
area
and
that
would
easily
be
identified
with
the
sign.
We
would
just
have
to
correct
the
loading
sign
you
have.
The
outside
area
for
loading
and
unloading
you'll
have
a
full
dock
for
any
casual
dinghies.
That's
coming
in.
You
know
that.
C
Yesterday
you
had
eleven
boats
out
there.
Two
weeks
ago,
you
had
twenty-one
boats
out
there,
because
I
count
them
usually
every
day
and
I
believe
that
a
few
of
them
are
coming
into
the
village
to
have
permanent
residency
in
our
marina
or
long-term
residency
in
our
marina
and
I.
Think
the
reason
why
you
have
a
lot
of
boats
out
there.
There
was
no
slips
for
people
to
come
in
and
now
that
season
is
coming
to
an
end
that
there
are
slips
one
of
the
things
in
and
I
know.
C
We've
talked
about
this
before
in
previous
meetings
and
I
think
there
was
an
issue
in
mr.
eleven
can
correct
me
in
Sarasota,
where
you
had
derelict
boats
out
there.
So
my
fear
would
be
that
we
would
get
a
lot
of
boats
in
our
base
or
out
without
a
mooring
field.
So
I
think
we
need
to
start
looking
into
our
future
and
I
know.
C
E
G
E
I
mean
we're
lucky
that
we
have
a
limited
number
of
liveaboards
with
dinghies
and
and
that
and
that
currently
we
can
accommodate
those
dinghies
at
the
Gilchrist
dogs.
But
if
it
gets
the
point
where
we
have
many
more
boats
living
aboard
and
not
enough
space
at
the
docks,
we're
gonna
find
it.
We're
gonna
find
dinghies
all
along
our
shoreline
and
we'll
have
to
deal
with
that
at
the
time.
E
B
E
B
H
A
So
now
he
goes
over
to
Lashley
every
day
and
docks
his
boat
and
it's
a
it's
a
huge
cruiser
boat
and
he's
using
the
day
dock
for
eight
nine
ten
hours
a
day
every
day,
and
so
that
is
taking
away
from
the
availability
of
groups
that
are
going
there
for
lunch,
cruisers
and
other
things.
So
if
a
group
goes
there
of
a
boat
club,
for
instance,
goes
there
for
a
lunch.
I
J
H
E
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
suspect
that
there
are
some
liveaboards
there
as
well,
who
might
want
to
have
the
same
or
may
have
the
same
needs
as
some
of
the
liveaboards
at
the
Gilchrist
Park.
So
maybe
we
need
to
have
a
specific
area
where
we
can
have
permits
issued
for
those
liveaboards
who
use
their
dinghies
and
at
the
day,
docks
at
Lashley,
Park
or
maybe
that's
already
addressed,
I,
don't
know,
Chief.
F
Before
you'd
answer
that,
for
you,
rusty
is
actually
very
accommodating,
he
has
set
up
the
front
portion
of
the
walk
down
dock
for
Dinis
for
anyone
in
the
mooring
field.
Now
he
does
direct
anyone
that
comes
in
for
the
day
from
a
dinghy
that
they
have
to
go
over
to
the
day
dock.
So
there
is
a
designated
area
and
he's
actually
worked
very
closely
with
Gerry,
with
flat
master,
to
make
sure
that
there
are
areas
for
even
the
flat
master
tournaments
he's
very
on
top
of.
Where
is
the
frustration
where
it
comes
from?
F
Today
is
a
specific
individual,
but
there
have
been
people
in
the
past
that
abused,
arlash
lead
a
dock,
leaving
their
vessel
there
for
weeks
on
end
literally
doing
work
right
there.
People
that
are
paying
for
slips
are
calling
me
saying:
can
you
do
anything
about
it
and
before
I
always
thought
there
was
no
overnight?
It
was
kind
of
a
practice
to
ask
them
to
move
now.
We're
asking
for
some
type
of.
E
F
Yes,
now
to
answer
for
the
day
time,
since
I
met
with
councilmember
Matthews
I
have
discussed
with
several
people
as
far
as
during
the
daytime
hours
and
to
limit
someone
during
the
daytime
is
really
unfair,
because
you
may
have
voting
groups
which
we
had
one
last
weekend,
that
was
from
South
that
wanted
to
come
in
see
our
city,
so
they
had
three
boats
now
there
were
fairly
large
vessels,
but
they
tried
to
move
all
the
way
down.
They
were
here
up
to
six
hours.
F
F
Meeting
with
the
group
over
at
Gilchrist
landing
and
talking
with
rusty
and
other
people,
I
would
love
to
say
yeah
soon
as
Sun
go
down
great,
but
it's
unfair.
You
have
people
that
go
out
to
our
nightlife
here
and
we
would
not
want
to
limit
that
necessarily
so
the
1:00
to
5:00
a.m.
gives
us
an
ample
opportunity
to
go
check
on
the
vessels
and
say
hey.
You
can't
be
here.
H
From
the
standpoint
is
I've
been
in
groups
that
you
know
go
on
cruises
and
so
forth,
and
we
wind
up
anchoring
out.
We
have
a
mooring
field,
and
typically,
if
you
have
a
relatively
large
boat
at
least
some
of
you
have
a
dinghy
and
you
have
the
ability
to
come
in
and
out,
and
there
is
that
dinghy
dock
could
be
available
to
them.
H
Conversely,
though,
I
think
Glen
has
been
spot
on
on
this
issue
on
everything,
I
do
think
three
hours
would
be
a
nicer
I
think
that
four
hours
is
more
generous
than
I
would
like
to
see,
because
three
hours
is
plenty
of
time
to
go
there
and
have
an
ice
cream
have
a
dinner,
etc.
The
problem
with
six
hours
is
yes,
you
can
go,
see
our
city,
but
you
could
go
to
the
mooring
field
and
taxi
or
something
in
for
that
purpose.
And
if
you
go
much
beyond
that,
then
you
might
be
able.
H
You
know
that
you
would
take
your
boat
park
it
there
and
go
to
the
wine
festival
or
something
of
that
sort.
I,
don't
we
would
want
I
would
want
to
be
available
for
people
that
want
to
come
in
and
out
on
a
regular
basis.
So
there
is
a
mooring
field
there.
It
can
be
used
in
a
daytime
very
few.
That
I'm
aware
of
a
people
that
have
both
the
40-foot
or
over
are
not
going
to
have
a
dinghy
available
to
them,
particularly
if
there's
a
group
yeah.
H
But
if,
when
you're
in
a
group,
somebody
that's
you
know,
you
know,
I
mean
we've
been
I've
been
to
Pelican
Bay,
where
you
know
there'll
be
30
or
40
boats
of
us
and
out
of
those
30
to
40
boats
at
least
80
percent
of
us
have
dinghies
and
we're
rafting
up
and
we're
being
pretty
obnoxious
and
driving
around
having
a
gay
old
time
so
being
able
to
get
into
the
land
is
not
not
difficult
for
a
group
of
cruisers
that
are
coming
together.
So.
G
F
The
last
comment
is
when
considering
which
I
do
appreciate
it.
It
helps
me
for
enforcement.
Is
we
had
discussed
before
regular
parking?
Citations
are
only
$25,
and
one
of
the
main
comments
to
a
couple
of
the
individuals
was
that's
cheaper
than
not
me
having
to
pay
for
a
slip,
so
they
were
more
than
willing
to
do
that.
That's
why,
when
I
talked
to
McHale
as
far
as
a
step
program
as
we
do
with
our
overnight
violations,
I
hope
you
consider
that
as
well.
B
K
Nancy
Johnson
team,
Koenig
Horta
as
a
boater
who
just
sold
their
boat.
Sadly
I
know
we
belong
to
a
number
of
boat
club's.
We've
done
a
lot
of
cruising
in
this
area.
There
was
a
time
about
three
years
ago
where
team
was
engaged
in
some
work
to
try
to
draw
boaters
to
this
community.
It
was
an
economic
development
initiative.
It
was
very
intentional.
I
think
we've
kind
of
backed
off
that
work
a
little
bit
not
not
on
purpose
it
just
sort
of
went
by
the
wayside.
K
So
I
applaud
Lynn
Matthews
efforts
with
the
boaters
Alliance,
but
we
were
doing
things
like
having
inviting
boating
conferences
here:
seven
seas,
cruising
Association
and
then
inviting
the
Cape
Coral
sailing
club
to
come
and
attend
it,
and
the
intention
was
to
have
boating
groups
in
the
harbor
coming
ashore.
Spending
money
going
to
fisherman's
village
going
downtown
and
eating
so
I
think
that
there's
a
real
market
for
that
and
I
think
it's
a
healthy
thing
for
our
community
and
we
should
not
place
limitations
on
that.
Would
make
that
really
difficult
for
folks
to
do
so.
J
Cathy
gets
resident,
Barry
Street
right
now,
Gill
crisp
landing.
When
I
applaud
your
efforts
over
there,
it's
changed.
You
know
it
was
brought
to
your
attention
and
all
of
a
sudden,
four
or
five
boats
are
gone.
Yeah
they're
gone,
so
we
we
applaud
that
we
needed
it
on
our
street.
There
was
a
guy
last
year
who
parked
day-work
trailer
there
every
day
he
lived
on
a
boat
and
he
had
a
trailer
that
was
brought
to
the
attention
and
that
was
that
was
cleaned
up
so
I
have
mixed
feelings:
who's.
J
What
I'm
telling
you
the
the
gentleman
from
Allegiant
the
the
nurse
who
lives
out
there,
that's
their
home
and
they
need
a
place
to
come
in.
The
other
side
of
the
coin
is
as
Dave
Levin
talked
about.
Sarasota
and
other
places
marathon
comes
to
mind
as
people
say:
oh
my
gosh,
how
expensive
it
is
more.
There
there's
a
reason
for
that,
and
so
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
efforts,
but
we
need
to
temper
it
that's.
J
L
L
I
B
B
I
B
E
G
E
There
isn't,
but
but
and
maybe
I
misunderstood,
but
it
seems
like
that's
why
I
asked
the
question
about.
We
have
a.
We
have
a
mooring
field
over
at
lashley
and
and
and
whether
there's
a
problem.
Whether
there
is
anyone
there
now
that
is
requiring
more
than
or
require
overnight
Park
docking
of
their
dinghies
or
not.
We
should
anticipate
that
that
may
be
something
that
is
going
to
be
requested,
particularly
since
we
would
prefer
people
that
can
get
underneath
the
bridge
to
more
within
our
regulated
mooring
field.
E
So
the
idea
would
be
that
we
have
a
limited
number
of
permits
available
for
lashley
day
docking,
as
well
as
the
limited
number
of
permits
available
for
gilchrist
day
docking
and
that
there
be
one
person
designated
with
the
authority
to
issue
those
permits
more
than
and
whether
that
be
at
City
Hall
or
at
Gilchrist
at
Lashley.
Park
I
don't
really
care,
but
it
just
seemed
to
me
that
was
the
natural
link.
B
A
That
something
that
the
City
Clerk's
office
could
administer
I
mean
it's
not
we're
talking
about.
Maybe
five
or
six
permits
maximum
per
quarter.
Is
that
something
where
they
could
come
in
and
fill
out
an
application
and
you
and
they
pay
their
money
and
you
give
them
a
permit.
I
mean
a
sticker
and
a
list
of
the
rules
that
they
have
to
follow.
I
I
B
B
B
I
B
G
B
A
M
A
E
B
Think
I
think
from
what
we
heard
and
I
don't
want
to
get
in
these
legal
mud
with
you,
muddy
water,
but
but
we
were
managed
over
there.
We
have
a
dock
master,
we're
managed
he's
managing
it
he's,
making
it
fair
and
work
for
everybody,
so
the
less
we
can
do
over
there.
Besides
this
time
limit
the
better
at
Gilchrist
there's
nobody
watching
over
the
place,
so
I
feel
comfortable
with
Lashley,
and
if
we
find
out
we
need
it.
Then
we.
E
B
M
B
Next
is
a
quasi-judicial
public
hearing,
which
is
an
appeal
of
a
special
permit
and
I
do
have
a
voting
conflict.
My
husband
is
the
company
doing
the
work,
so
I
will
recuse
myself
and
I
will
call
a
let's
call
a
five
minute
break
and
then
Gary
will.
The
vice
mayor
will
take
over
the
proceedings
for
a
CCSP,
0,
1,
1,
8,
okay,.
M
E
O
Good
morning,
game
for
the
record,
Michaela
Finkel,
as
the
city
attorney
said,
this
is
an
appeal
of
a
special
permit
that
was
heard
by
the
Punta
Gorda
Isles
canal
maintenance
committee
staff
would
like
to
enter
into
the
record
the
January
9th
2018
staff
report
issued
by
the
Public
Works
engineering
department.
As
a
summary,
this
request
was
before
required
a
special
permit
for
three
reasons:
there
is
an
existing
boat
lift
on
the
property
that
is
proposed
to
be
relocated.
O
That
would
cause
a
portion
of
it
to
be
located
outside
the
45
degree.
The
request
is,
for
a
second
lift,
to
be
used
for
a
personal
watercraft.
That
in
itself
requires
a
special
permit
and
then
a
portion
of
that
watercraft
lift
will
also
be
outside
the
45
degrees.
So
there
were
three
issues
as
I
said:
the
PGI
canal
considered
at
a
public
hearing,
and
the
request
was
denied
five
to
one.
The
applicant
is
now
appealing
that
decision
to
City
Council
and
mr.
E
P
I
P
P
The
powerboat
was
on
the
lift
and
you
can
see
the
way
it's
facing
right
now
front
towards
the
the
right
he
brought
his
sailboat
to
the
property
and
when
he
did
that
he,
the
orientation
of
the
powerboat
makes
it
very
difficult
and
dangerous
for
him
to
try
and
get
the
boat
on
and
off
the
the
lift
and
so
to
get
the
boat
on
and
off
the
lift.
He
has
to
turn
it
around
the
other
way
and
if
you're
familiar
with
most
boats,
two-thirds
of
the
boat
has
to
sit
forward
of
the
centerline
of
the
lift.
P
So
the
boat
is
always
going
to
hang
out
the
front
of
the
lift,
as
opposed
to
the
back.
So
as
it
sits
on
the
lift
right
now,
it's
not
a
problem
except
they
can't
get.
It
can't
use
the
lift
for
the
for
the
boat
can
get
on
and
off
of
it
safely,
and
so
the
owner
wants
to
move
the
lifting.
If
you
go
to
number
three,
this
handout
shows
the
boat
facing
the
the
other
direction
and
by
the
way
we've
turned
that
boat
around.
P
So
it
now
the
front
end
faces
to
the
left
and
the
problem
that
arises.
There
is
by
the
time
you
get
his
37
foot
38
feet
overall
sailboat
in
there
the
power
boat
sticks
out
too
much
off
the
front,
there's
not
enough
room,
and
if
you
move
the
boat
back
to
the
rear,
it
becomes
dangerously
overweight
on
the
back
of
the
of
the
lift
itself,
and
so
the
top.
P
Drawing
that
you
see
is
the
way
it
exists
right
now
and
if
you
look
at
that,
yellow
X
that
goes
through
the
boat,
that's
the
center
of
the
lift.
And
if
you
look
at
the
black
X,
the
black
X
is
the
center
of
balance
for
the
boat.
So
you
can
see
how
it's
it's
skewed
towards
the
to
the
rear
and
that
the
lift
does
not
doesn't
have
the
capacity
to
be
off.
P
Balance
like
that
and
the
request
that
was
submitted
to
the
canal,
Advisory
Committee
was
to
move
the
lift
back
to
the
location
that
you
can
see
in
the
in
the
bottom.
Drawing
and
by
doing
that,
it
allows
the
boat
to
sit
more
balanced
on
the
lift
and
the
thing
you
notice
is:
there's
not
a
lot
of
difference
in
the
where
the
boat
is.
The
boat
sits
about
four
feet
farther
to
the
right
when
it's.
P
If
you
want
to
put
that
on
even
put
that
on
there
too,
that
shows
how
the
boat
has
to
sit
on
a
lift,
and
you
don't
have
to
be
much
of
a
boater
to
understand
that
the
way
the
balance
is,
that's
a
pretty
dangerous
situation,
so
we
wanted
to
move
the
boat
farther
back.
So
if
you
would
go
to
four
please
so
these
are
two
drawings
and
the
top
drawing
is
the
way
the
the
lift
and
the
boat.
The
red
line.
The
long
red
lines
in
the
center
is
the
that
represents
the
boat
itself.
P
You
can
see
where
that
boat
is
setting.
We
want
to
move
the
lift
farther
to
the
right
that
allows
the
boat
with
the
green
line,
to
sit
balanced
on
the
lift
and
provide
enough
room
to
allow
the
the
sailboat
to
be
on
the
front
at
the
same
time
and
that
be
across
the
what
we
call
the
boat
limitation
line
and
I'm
just
going
to
deal
with
the
with
a
large
lift
right
now
and
they'll,
come
back
to
the
personal
watercraft
lift
after
that.
P
Property.
Okay,
go
to
five!
Please,
and
this
is
the
one
that
you
saw
before
it
also
shows
you
know
the
same
thing
and
how
it's
it's.
None
of
the
the
lift
and
none
of
the
boat
would
go
across
the
boat
limitation
line
and
for
simplicity
in
this
case,
because
we
have
normal
property
boundaries.
You
can
look
at
that
as
kind
of
an
extension
of
the
of
the
property
line
itself.
P
There
is
a
precedent
for
this
kind
of
for
an
approval
of
a
special
permit
for
this.
This
was
a
special
permit.
It
was
approved
unanimously
by
the
canal,
Advisory
Committee
in
June
of
last
year,
and
if
you
noticed
that
boat
lift
it's
oriented
different,
but
that
boat
lift
is
nine
feet
from
the
property
boundary
and
that's
a
permanent
structure.
Is
there
all
the
time
so
it
was.
P
Again,
that's
not
an
unusual
request
and
it
is
in
violation
of
the
code
which
I
might
add.
The
code
that
we
have
written
in
the
in
the
city
is
good.
It
works
really
well
and
in
fact
the
county
has
taken
a
look
at
our
the
way
we
have
written
the
code
and
they're
adapting
the
45
rule
and
a
couple
things
like
that,
so
the
code
works
good
and
when
we
have
examples
where
we
need
an
exception,
we
have
the
special
permit
that
allows
us
to
do
that.
P
So
the
system
we
have
in
place
is
a
good
system
and
it
works
for
us
quite
well.
So
the
personal
watercraft.
If
we
go
back
to
number
5,
the
PD
I
mean
this
is
this
is
drawn
when
it
was
drawn.
It
was
drawn
with
the
dimensions
that
I
actually
gave
the
city
and,
as
we
learned
more
about
this,
lift
which
we
had
never
put
one
in
before,
it's
not
quite
as
as
long
as
we
have
indicated
there.
So
some
of
the
bunk
system
of
a
small
portion
of
the
bunk
system
would
be
outside
the
45.
P
We
could
cut
that
bunk
off
and
keep
it
within
the
45.
What
that
doesn't
really
make
any
difference,
because
when
the
boats
sitting
on
the
on
the
lift
itself,
the
personal
watercraft,
that's
the
thing
that
is
that's
there.
It's
that's
the
mass
that's
sitting
there,
so
it
does
go
across
the
45,
only
a
small
amount,
but
the
personal
watercraft
would
consume
all
that
area
and
quite
a
bit
more.
At
no
time
do
any
of
these
crafts
go
across
the
boat
limitation
way.
P
So
I
also
would
add
that
the
when
this
went
before
the
Canal
Advisory
Committee,
we
worked
with
the
staff
and
generally,
if,
if
we're
gonna
do
something-
and
it
looks
like
it's
gonna
need
a
special
permit.
I
can
talk
to
the
staff
and
get
ideas
of
of
what
has
been
done
in
the
past
and
what's
going
to
be
unacceptable
and
the
staff
for
this
recommended
favorable
consideration
to
the
the
canal
advisory
committee.
P
So
I
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
I,
also
point
out
to
that
that
personal
watercraft,
the
PwC
lift,
requires
a
special
permit,
just
because
it's
a
second
lift
but
there's
also
precedent
for
that.
We've
approved
a
number
of
additional
floating
lifts
as
they're
they're
called
they're,
not
docks,
they're,
floating
lifts
and
personal
watercraft.
We've
approved
davit
systems,
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
not
an
unusual
request.
That's
in
the
berm
area
has
absolutely
no
impact
on
navigation
or
anything
else.
We
want
to
impact
anybody
else.
P
So
just
it
was
pointed
out
that
we
have
to
deal
with
the
6
6
H
5,
which
is
you
know
what
are
the
what's?
The
criteria
for
the
approval
of
a
special
permit-
it
would
not
be
in
interest
to
the
waterway
involved
and
which
it's
not,
it
doesn't
have
any
adverse
impact
on
that.
Does
that
have
any
impact
on
safe
navigation?
It's
within
the
well
within
25
feet
of
a
100-foot
canal
system.
P
A
Have
we
been
able
to?
First
of
all,
let
me
just
disclose
that
I
met
with
mr.
dye
the
other
day
and
walked
the
property
and
got
an
assessment
of
what
we're
dealing
with
here,
and
my
understanding
is
that
we
were
not
able
to
contact
the
owner.
That
would
be
to
the
right
of
this
property.
That's
the
vacant
property.
Is
that
correct.
A
I'm
concerned
I
had
a
conversation
on
Monday
afternoon
with
some
former
members
of
the
canal,
Advisory
Committee
and
while
I
appreciate
your
position
and
trying
to
work
on
behalf
of
your
client,
one
can
argue
that
you
you've,
you
see
that
precedence
may
have
been
set
in
in
previous
situations,
but
every
situation
that's
ever
been
voted
on,
has
specific
circumstances
that
either
lien
people
one
way
or
the
other
one.
They
vote
on.
A
Something
like
this,
and
my
concern
is
that
the
vacant
property
next
door
doesn't
even
have
a
dock
on
it
right
now
and
when
somebody
goes
to
develop
that
property,
whether
it's
the
current
owner
or
a
future
owner.
They
may
not
be
okay
with
this,
and
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
have
at
least
current
blessing
on
what
what's
being
promote
proposed
here,
we
may
have
a
problem
with
the
new
owner
when
they
go
to
put
a
dock
at
and
or
a
boat
on
that
space.
And
it's
not
exceptionally
wide.
A
P
Just
if
I
can
comment
on
that,
the
the
owner
is
by
code
allowed
to
take
his
boast.
If
you
took
the
lift
out
completely
just
totally
disregard
that
lift
and
put
those
boats
there,
it
has
the
same
impact,
it's
the
same
mass,
that's
there
as
would
be,
if
the,
if
the
lift
isn't
present
and
the
person
next
door
has
absolutely
no
say
over
that
the
property
owner
is
allowed
to
Moore
his
boats
within
the
what
we
called
boat
limitation
line,
which
is
the
same
as
in
this
case
as
a
property
boundary.
So
it
doesn't
have.
A
When
all
of
that
space
that
basically
you're
talking
about
an
entire
square
amount
of
space,
that's
going
to
be
occupied
by
boats
and
toys
and
god
bless
him.
He's
got
he's,
got
the
money
to
have
all
those
toys
he's
got
a
lot
of
toys
and
that's
his
privilege.
But
what
I
don't
what
I
don't
like
is
the
fact
that
I
think
I
think
this
is
a
situation
where
he's
got
more
toys
than
he
has
space
for,
and
it
concerns
me
a
great
deal
well.
P
There's
a
you
know,
there's
no
doubt
about
that,
and
and
that
comment
was
made
well,
you
could
probably
do
something
to
keep
it
in
the
45.
You
really
can't
not
to
you
know
in
a
practical,
practical
manner,
so
it
wouldn't
be
safe
to
just
increase
the
size
of
the
lift.
Although
that's
a
possibility,
it.
P
I
mean
in
terms
of
the
capacity
it
definitely
can
be
done.
It's
just
that
that
doesn't
change.
You
can
make
that
lift.
You
know
20,000
pound
lifts
if
you
wanted
to
do
it,
but
that's
not
going
to
change
where
the
the
center
of
balance
is
and
the
safe
storing
of
that
boat.
So
on
you
know
in
the
in
the
footprint
of
that
of
that
lift,
but
yeah
we
can,
we
can
make
it
so
it'll,
lift
it.
That's
not
a
problem.
I'll
lift
anything
I
mean.
A
Judging
from
what
I
saw
the
other
day,
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
look
of
the
lift
right
now
from
the
wear
and
tear
on
on
the
weight
of
that
watercraft
on
that
lift,
it
looks
like
it's
very,
very
out
of
balance.
I
agree
with
that
part
of
it,
and
it
certainly
is
putting
a
very,
very
heavy
stress
load
on
that
on
the
boat,
lift
cables
right
now,.
I
G
My
schedule
just
didn't
allow
but
I've
been
pondering
this
as
I've
been
reading
all
over
this,
and
it's
with
a
lot.
That's
80
feet
wide
and
when
we
purchased
our
property
I
know
when
we
were
looking
for
a
home
and
we
saw
many
beautiful
homes,
but
we
wanted
to
have
a
property
that
had
ample
seawall,
because
we
didn't
know
what
we
were
going
to
purchase
in
the
way
of
a
boat.
G
It
seems
like
we
know
what
we're
getting
into
when
we
buy
the
the
property
we
should
anyway.
So
now
we
have
a
boat,
an
owner
that
has
lots
of
wonderful
toys
and
vessels
that
are
great
but
they're
exceeding
what
this
property
can
provide,
and
it's
almost
as
if
you
know,
as
I
read
through
this.
It's
like
it's
the
wrong
property
for
what
this
owner
wants
to
do.
G
P
Maybe
somebody
else
can,
but
if
he
didn't
have
a
boat
lift
and
he
just
stored
that
both
of
those
crafting
in
the
water
and
their
current
location
actually
moved
them
to
the
property
boundary.
We
wouldn't
be
having
this
conversation,
because
he
can
do
that
legally.
He
he
has
the
obligation
to
store
his
boats
in
that
space
from
from
side
to
side
and
assuming
that
legally,
the
the
adjacent
owner
has
no
legal
dedicated
use
of
the
space
across
his
property
boundary.
P
So
in
other
words,
the
neighbor
on
the
right
doesn't
have
a
legal
obligation
to
be
able
to
use
that
space
or
prevent
him
the
property
owner
from
using
the
space,
except
by
code.
It
says
you
can't
have
any
structure
over
there,
but
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
the
boat,
so
that
boat
owner
mister
would
camp
could
fill
that
whole
that
whole
seawall
up
and
now
it's
gonna
make
it
hard
on
himself
when
he
does
that.
You
know-
and
you
know
I'm
the
first
one
to
admit
that
the
more
things
you
have
out
there.
P
You
know
the
more
things
are
going
to
start.
You
know
competing
with
each
other,
but
if
we
look
around
the
the
the
canal
system
right
now,
our
our
houses
are
being
renovated,
they're
being
torn
down,
we're
getting
bigger
houses,
we're
getting
bigger
boats
or
getting
more
boats.
We
tell
everybody,
come
to
Punta
Gorda
to
live,
play
and
work
in
paradise
and
they're
coming
and
they're,
bringing
all
their
stuff
with
them
when
they,
when
they
do
that.
P
P
P
M
P
We
approve
on
the
average
of
three
and
in
the
Punta
Gorda
and
I'm,
not
positive
about
psi,
because
I
don't
go
to
as
many
of
those
but
in
Punta
Gorda.
We
approve
two
to
three
special
permits
outside
the
45
every
month.
At
every
meeting
and
and
the
in
the
committee
I
mean
that's,
you
know,
the
problem
is
we
long
ago
created
boundaries
that
don't
always
facilitate
the
things
that
we
want
to
do.
I.
I
D
I
think,
in
regard
to
actual
safety,
that
this
three
vital
balance
is
really
not
an
issue.
I
think
that
I
mean
one
that
allows
the
person
to
use
their
property.
The
way
they'd
like
to,
but
also
I,
think
just
as
invested
interest
of
them
to
be
able
to
balance
their
boat
out
properly.
I
think
that
in
doing
this,
we
would
be
causing
on
unreasonable
stress
on
the
person.
I
think
it'd
be
very
reasonable.
We.