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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 04-18-18 Part 2
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B
B
Wendy
Mueller
I
am
only
the
recipient
of
people
that
have
been
addicted.
I
was
an
employer
in
a
motorcycle
industry.
We
draw
a
lot
of
unique
characters.
I
am
very
proud
to
say
that,
just
like
the
woman
that
just
spoke,
one
of
my
employees
is
now
five
years
sober
except
he
was
in
and
out
over
and
over
again
in
the
same
town
at
the
same
rehab
centers.
B
B
B
That
this
buddy
system,
this
whole
idea
and
the
statistics
that
we've
heard
simply
does
not
convince
me
I-
was
in
business
for
a
very
long
time.
My
first
nine
years
were
always
exciting.
I
was
innovative,
I
was
brilliant.
I
got
a
little
lazy.
I
got
a
little
education
by
I
suggest,
as
has
already
been
said,
more
research
people.
This
is
our
town.
If
we're
trying
to
grow
and
trying
to
create
more
business,
it's
certainly
not
going
to
be
conducive
to
the
businessman
that
is
going
to
try
and
put
up
a
building.
C
D
D
Have
been
sworn
yes,
I
spent
40
years,
I'm
retired.
Now
it's
been
40
years
as
a
research
psychologist
and
professor
in
Michigan,
doing
research
specifically
in
the
area
of
addictions
and
the
tone
of
this
presentation
doesn't
inspire
confidence,
so
I
guess
I'm,
simply
reinforcing
from
a
professional
background.
What
we've
already
heard
there
are
significant
differences
between
treatment,
approaches
to
successful
outcomes,
and
those
that
are
valid
approaches
have
been
empirically
researched.
There
are
studies
that
can
be
quoted.
I
heard
no
emphasis
on
citations
of
empirical
outcomes
in
from
this
gentleman
today.
D
C
E
Yeah,
it
took
a
couple
things
as
far
as
the
the
buddy
system
walk.
Any
privilege
has
to
go
through
a
counselor,
so
a
phone
call
checking
your
email
going
on.
A
walk
has
to
be
approved
by
your
counselor,
the
counselor
that
you
see
multiple
times
per
week,
because
they're
the
ones
getting
into
the
deep
conversations
with
you
and
they
know
what's
going
on
in
the
background.
E
They
shouldn't
sometimes
it's
not
till
after
60
days,
but
it's
a
minimum
of
30
days
in
treatment
before
we'll.
Even
look
at
things
like
that,
they
don't
don't
have
access
to
their
phones
during
the
week
they
can
have
a
phone
call
on
the
weekend
approved
by
their
counselor.
If
they've
been
working
hard,
it's
a
reward
if
the
person
that
they
want
to
call
is
a
safe
person.
Typically,
it's
a
family
member.
If
it's
a
family
member,
is
it
somebody
that
we've
been
talking
about
this
week?
E
F
F
F
E
Have
to
throw
buddy
walk
so
it
then,
because
it's
not
it's
not
a
Buddy
Walk
any
longer.
It's
just
a
walk
with
the
staff
member
but
Buddy
Walk.
Is
that
we're
not
we're
not
their
buddies?
We're
not
their
friends
were
their
their
therapists
and
you
know
their
support
staff.
So
we're
not
we're
not
peers,
we're
not
their
friends
were
there
to
help
them
walk
through
the
road
of
recovery,
and
so
there's
there's
a
different
sort
of
relationship
with
a
buddy,
so
I
would
just
say
we
won't
allow
buddy
walks.
F
F
E
I
mean
I
would,
just
you
know,
send
three
or
four
people
for
a
walk
with
a
staff
member
as
opposed
to
one
on
one,
unless
unless
it
was
their
one-on-one
therapy
and
they
were
going
going
to
walk
over,
you
know,
half
a
block
over
to
the
to
the
bay
and
sit
there
and
do
their
do
their
discussion.
Outdoors.
F
F
C
E
Going
to
depend
because
we
offer
different
levels
of
one-on-one
counseling
options
anywhere
from
two
one-on-ones
a
week
to
12
one-on-ones
a
week,
so,
depending
on
the
number
of
clients
that
have
selected
the
higher
level,
I'm
gonna
obviously
need
to
bring
in
more
than
I
would
if
everybody
it
was
at
two
one-on-ones,
because
at
two
one-on-ones
to
counselors
to
three
counselors
can
handle
the
one-on-one
sessions.
Whereas
the
technicians
can
handle
the
group
sessions
and
that
sort
of
thing
it
would
be
about
three
two
one.
Three
three.
E
At
home,
I'm
not
and
we've
set
it
up
intentionally
that
way
so
that
we
can
make
sure
everything's
running
smoothly.
In
the
background,
when
we
do
show
up
on
site,
we're
constantly
bombarded
one
direction
in
the
other
direction.
So
we
don't.
We
don't
get
a
whole
lot
accomplished
if
we
actually
show
up
on
site,
but
we,
you
know,
we
hire
professional
competent
staff
and
you
know
we're
very
picky
when
we,
when
we
do
select
our
staff.
C
To
me
that
they
did
talk
to
Charlotte
behavioral
and
to
the
bay
front,
Punta
Gorda
centers
and
have
coordinated
with
them
on
their
areas
of
treatment
as
well.
So
what
you
had
asked
before
yeah
they
conveyed
that
to
me.
They
also
gave
me
the
information
on
their
other
treatment
center
that
they
currently
have
I.
E
Mean
there's
there's
definitely
enough
demand
in
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
and
not
necessarily
with
street
drugs,
particularly
but
with
alcohol
and
prescription
drugs.
I
mean
the
Oviatt
up
at
epidemic.
That
we're
currently
struggling
with
is
is
not
all
heroin.
It's
not
all
street
drugs
there.
There
are
plenty
of
people
that
are
hooked
on
prescription
drugs
from
their
doctor
and
are
having
a
hard
time
getting
off
of
it.
E
Because,
that's
not
you
know,
their
families
are
not
active,
happy
healthy
parts
in
their
life,
if
you're
still
on
the
edge-
and
you
know
doing
it
in
sheer
grit
and
willpower,
so
I
mean
there.
There
are
lots
of
things
in
the
background
things
like
anxiety
and
depression,
grief
and
loss
trauma,
anger,
codependency.
You
know
there
are
lots
of
things
and
everybody
has
a
different
list
of
things
that
affects
their
lives
and
we've
all
lived
different
lives
from
childhood
until
the
present
day,
and
so
a
one-size-fits-all
approach
doesn't
work.
E
B
E
E
H
E
Insurance
companies,
this
nicely
I
mean
they're
they're,
trying
to
make
some
money,
and
so,
as
am
I,
as
is
everyone,
unfortunately,
everything
in
our
world
does
cost
money.
To
do
I
mean
there
are
lots
of
things
that
we
start
off
doing
an
involuntary
basis,
but
once
it
takes
up
too
much
of
our
time,
there
is
a
time
where
we
have
to
say:
okay,
I
need
to
get
compensated
for
this
in
order
to
feed
my
family
rephrase.
The
question
sorry
I
got
distracted
by.
H
E
Yes,
so
what
would
happen
at
the
end
of
30
days
is
most
insurance
companies.
They
start
you
off
at
the
highest
level
of
care,
but
only
for
a
certain
period
of
time,
whether
that's
two
three
four
weeks
and
then
at
that
time
they
will
step
you
down
to
another
level
of
care,
and
so
that's
why,
in
in
my
application,
it
talks
about
doing
intensive
inpatient
it
talks
about
doing
day
for
night.
It
talks
about
doing
outpatient,
and
that's
so
that
we
can.
E
Well,
you
could
still
continue
to
provide
this
level
of
care
up
here,
even
though
you
weren't
being
subsidized
that
amount
anymore
I've
been
told
that
they've
stopped
doing
that
and
that
they
forced
you
now
to
step
the
client
down
into
the
lower
level
of
care,
because
that's
what
they're
being
paid
for
and
which
is
unfortunate,
because
I
mean
we
would
be.
You
know
more
than
happy
to
just
blend
the
whole
whole
cost
structure
and
provide
the
highest
level
of
care
for
the
entire
time.
E
Unfortunately,
it's
no
different
than
if
an
alcoholic
goes
to
the
hospital
for
detox.
If
they're,
not
into
withdrawals
and
they're,
not
showing
signs
of
withdrawal
symptoms,
the
insurance
company
rejects
them
for
coming
in
for
detox.
The
hospital
is
then
forced
with
the
unfortunate
task
of
having
to
go
and
tell
that
individual
that
they've
got
to
go
home
that
they
can't
come
in
for
detox
because
their
insurer
company
has
denied
them.
E
You
know
there.
There
are
other
options
that
we
can
help
refer
them
to
that
are,
you
know
either
have
some
government
funding
or
maybe
Church
funding
somewhere,
where
we
can
get
them
into
something
as
a
second
stage,
if
for
some
reason,
their
insurance
companies
just
come
to
the
end
of
the
road
and
they're
not
doing
any
more
I
mean
we
would
help
them
set
up
with
an
exit
plan,
whether
they're
leaving
early
or
whether
they're
completing
their
program.
We
do
sit
down
and
discuss
exit
strategy
going
to
a
meetings
getting
a
sponsor
continuing
to
do.
E
You
know,
outpatient
counseling,
you
know
all
those
sorts
of
things
right,
I
mean
our
goal.
Is
we
want
to
see
them
doing?
Well,
if
that
means
it's,
we
can
only
work
with
them
for
a
portion.
Then
we
want
to
get
as
much
of
a
foundation
in
that
time
period
as
we
can
so
that
now,
when
you
go
to
do
the
outpatient,
if
it's
somewhere
else,
you've
got
some
tools
in
your
toolbox
and
you're
doing
better
than
the
individual
who
has
no
foundation
and
is
trying
to
make
outpatient
work
because
that's
a
struggle.
F
Struggled
with
coming
up
with
the
appropriate
type
of
conditions
and
the
most
receptive
discussion
you
just
had
raises
some
concern
with
respect
to
the
wording
of
the
first
condition.
I'll
read
it
again.
Facility
staff
is
required
to
notify
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
Police
Department
immediately.
If
a
patient
leaves
on
their
own
accord
without
completing
the
program,
maybe
I
misunderstood
what
you
were
saying,
but
there's
a
possibility
that
a
patient
would
have
to
leave
if
their
insurance
and
or
other
financial
arrangements
couldn't
be
made
to
have
them
complete
the
program.
F
Potentially
yes,
okay,
and
so
under
those
circumstances
the
patient
wouldn't
be
leaving
on
their
own
Kord
they'd
be
leaving
because
there
wasn't
any
financial
bill.
How
help
me
reword
that
so
that,
if,
if
a
patient
was
leaving,
you
would
notify
us,
particularly
if
they
hadn't
completed
their
program,
whether
it
was
on
their
own
court
or
not.
E
Have
no
problem
with
doing
that!
I
just
don't
know
how
much
communication
the
police
department
would
feel
overwhelmed
with
a
few
people
who
successfully
completed
their
program.
Do
they
need
to
know
that
or
not
I
don't
mind
providing
the
information?
That's
not
really
a
big
deal
for
us.
It's
just
I'm
sure
they'd
be
okay.
F
F
Well,
I
guess
it
would
define
I
guess
it's
part
of
what
I'm
trying
to
avoid
is
having
to
define
what
the
program?
What
what
completion
of
the
program
is?
Is
the
completion
of
the
program
dictated
by
finances
or
is
completion
of
the
program
dictated
by
clinical
evaluation
to
avoid
any
of
those
hair?
Splitting.
B
F
E
C
H
A
H
H
Dailey
resident
of
Punta
Gorda
I've
listened
to
mr.
doc
role
here
and
I'm,
not
impressed
with
this
business.
He
was
asked
early
on
about
his
numbers.
He
talked
about
moving
forward
and
slips
a
lot,
and
he
finally
said
industry
standards.
10%
said
his
was
above
that
now
it's
22
beds
is
that
right,
sir.
H
H
He
said
22
beds,
but
if
they're
only
15
percent
success
rate
that's
250
a
year,
maybe
300
over
250
a
year
in
the
community.
85%
of
them
are
let
loose
in
the
community
right.
So
it's
not
22
we're
talking
about
these
are
big
numbers.
My
main
point
is
you
asked
him
for
numbers,
the
only
number
he
gave
you
was
an
industry-standard.
He
didn't
give
you
any
his
numbers,
his
company
numbers
and
I
I.
Just
don't
think,
that's
right,
I,
don't
think
that's
very
professional.
This
is
a
big
deal.
Numbers
are
important.
H
F
C
C
D
Name
is
Glenn
Weaver
resident
of
Punta
Gorda,
so
I've
already
told
you
what
my
career
was
I
worked
in
this
field.
I've
heard
presentations
like
this
many
times,
not
necessarily
for
regarding
zoning
ordinances,
but
regarding
approval
of
programs-
and
this
is
one
of
the
sloppiest
I've
heard.
This
has
been
ill-defined.
I've
heard
no
reference
at
all
to
previous
successes
in
this
program,
other
than
a
very
loose
we're
somewhere
in
10%,
which
is
abysmally
low
and
really
no
way
that
the
that's
being
measured.
What
are
the
outcomes
on
which
you're?
D
Judging
that
I've
heard
very
few
presentations
that
actually
go
anywhere
like
this
you're,
probably
also
where
there
programs,
because
addictions
treatment
can
be
quite
lucrative
because
the
demand
is
so
high?
These
programs
come
and
go,
they
come
and
go.
You
know
with
very
ill
definition
and
they
don't
work
and
they
often
draw
people
in
for
therapies
to
an
area
and
then
just
kind
of
dump
them
on
a
community
when
the
program
fails.
D
So
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
mistake
for
something
like
this
to
be
approved
here
today,
without
that
kind
of
evidence
being
brought
forward
and
thought
about.
Very
hard,
the
transition
between
a
program
and
then
life
beyond
the
program
is
absolutely
critical.
There
was
no
mention
made
of
that
at
all,
although
the
gentleman
referred
to
is,
we
do
have
professional
standards
that
we
follow
in
professionals.
He
didn't
mention
what
kind
of
professionals
they
were
or
what
kind
of
program
were
actually
being
employed
and
so
I
would
strongly
encourage
in
no
vote.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
so
much
Martha
Verret
I've
been
sworn,
and
thank
you
for
allowing
this
man
who
is
a
professional
to
give
a
professional
opinion
about
this
matter.
I
am,
and
really
it
sounds
like
and
unfortunately
like
the
decision
has
been
made,
but
for
us
the
citizens
of
Ponte
Gorda
I
would
certainly
look
at
other
programs.
That
programs
that
we
know
are
successful.
We've
heard
nothing
about
the
therapies.
I
Nobody
who
has
a
program
like
this,
he
should
be
able
to
give
us
some
outcomes.
He
should
be
able
to
give
some
statistics.
I
can't
believe
that
the
council
will
agree
to
something
where
you
have
no
evidence.
This
is
what
is
amazing
to
me
that
if
you
all
agree
to
something
with
absolutely
no
evidence,
I
absolutely
have
to
question
what
you're
thinking
there
has
been
no
evidence
presented,
and
it
sounds
like
you're
ready
to
go
forward
with
this.
I
So
I
certainly
hope
that
for
our
residents
that
we
are
not
left
with
groups
of
people
and
one
counselor
sex-addicts
people
looking
for
opiates
walking
our
streets
going
to
Gilchrist
Park,
where
our
children
are
I,
certainly
hope
that
the
council
will
not
open
our
community
to
that.
Please
listen
to
people
like
Glenn,
who
are
professionals
who
know
what
they're
talking
about.
Thank
you
thank.
C
You,
okay.
That
concludes
the
public
hearing.
We
need
a
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing.
We
have
a
motion,
a
second
motion
in
a
second
to
close,
the
public
hearing,
all
in
favor
aye
opposed
carried
unanimously.
Okay,
my
question
is
zoning.
Is
it
not
true
that
we
do
have
to
allow
certain
businesses
to
operate
somewhere
in
the
city.
F
Well,
the
use
comply
with
applicable
district
regulations
and
applicable
provisions
of
the
adopted,
comprehensive
plan,
downtown
plans
that
the
location,
size,
height
of
buildings,
walls,
fences
and
the
nature
and
extent
of
screening
buffering
such
that
the
use
will
not
hinder
or
discourage
the
appropriate
development
and
use
of
adjacent
or
nearby
land
and
we're
buildings,
and
that
the
proposed
use
will
be
such
the
pedestrian
vehicular
traffic
generated
will
not
be
hazardous
or
complete,
with
the
existing
dissipated
traffic
in
the
neighborhood
and
on
the
streets
serving
the
site.
Any
of
the
criteria
no.
F
J
Right
few
things,
David
saying,
I
I
am
and
I
am
in
very
favorite
in
terms
of
having
an
accredited
residential
drug
treatment,
alcohol
treatment
center
as
there's
a
need
for
the
community.
In
fact,
I
was
on
a
board
of
one
for
eight
years
and
I
actually
helped
it
get
its
accreditation
actually,
the
first
car
for
accreditation
in
the
Pacific
region.
With
this
said
this
application
appears
to
be
a
sober
home.
Not
not,
it
has
nothing.
J
It
looks
nothing
like
what
I'm
accustomed
to
in
terms
of
looking
at
what
a
treatment
programs
would
look
like
like
there's
certain
elements
that
are
extremely
problematic,
for
example,
and
I'm,
going
just
off
of
their
own
materials.
I
have
never
heard
of
a
program
that
would
expose
people
in
a
program
to
triggers
when
people
are
allowed
to
use
phones,
internet
for
business
purposes,
visits
from
family
outside
activities
that
I've
never
heard
of
such
a
thing.
In
my
life,
I
mean
in
a
program
that
desires
to
be
successful.
J
It's
gonna
sequester
someone
away
from
the
triggers
it's
gonna
address
from
problems.
It's
gonna
provide
for
more
effective
coping
mechanisms.
Also,
in
our
conversation
it
was
there
was
a
problem
to
me
where
I
was
told
to.
Basically
he
was
told
that
he
can
do
pretty
much
what
he
wanted
on
on
the
east
side
of
41,
which
I
found
him
problematic,
because
there
has
been
in
the
past
the
idea
that
part
of
the
city
were
obliged
a
bull
and
and
no
part
of
honey
where's
blight
of
all.
J
I
would
say
that
in
our
city,
that
it
behooves
us
for
our
residents
that
we
would
have
CARF
accreditation
for
anything
which
mean
it
would
actually
be
a
actual
residential
treatment
center.
This
this
really
every
I,
just
looking
at
what
has
been
told
to
us
in
terms
of
what
the
program
is,
it
reads
just
like
the
script
off
of
our
sober
home
contract.
I,
really
don't
see
how
this
this
isn't.
This
relates
nothing
to
me
in
terms
of
my
experience
in
terms
of
actually
being
on
the
board
of
an
actual
effective
center.
J
Secondly,
in
talking
with
the
hospital
about
how
they
deal
with
Riverside,
one
of
Versailles
gave
me
eighty
more
beds
to
this.
It's
locked
down
there
until
until
they
have
proven
you
on
a
professional
capacity
to
be
able
to
enter
society
you're,
not
you
believe
that
place
the
cost
of
it.
It's
it's
a
problem
for
me.
If
this
is
lottery
treatment,
it's
really
this
high
cost
thing.
It's
I,
don't
really
think
it's
for
our
people.
J
I
think
you
saying
is
for
our
people,
but
I
don't
really
feel
this
is
for
our
people
and
with
this
said
they
advertise
specifically
for
Florida
luxury
drug
treatment.
Now,
ironically
on
on
their
actual
page,
rather
than
talking
about
treatment,
they
had
things
like
marijuana
and
cocaine.
Both
common
roads
in
Florida
cocaine
is
brought
into
both
Mexico
and
South.
American
countries,
including
Colombia
in
Bolivia
methamphetamine
in
Houston
labs,
used
to
make
this
drug
on
the
rise
and
the
drug
opposes
possess.
J
Special
dangerous
MDMA
is
readily
available
in
marijuana
is
growing
in
the
state,
as
well
as
in
smuggled
from
other
countries.
I,
don't
see
how
this
type
of
advertising
what
drugs
are
sold
here
and
what
in
has
the
part
about
what
penalties
are
also
here
as
well.
I
also
I
found
problematic,
and
this
is
begin
there
materials
they
have
a
relapse
guarantee
says
we
are
confident
in
our
recovery
process.
But,
more
importantly,
we
want
you
to
be
fully
recovered.
J
We
will
give
you
one
free
month
of
treatment
for,
in
the
event
that
you
relapse
to
qualify,
you
must
complete
our
90
day
programming
and
you
complete
the
follow-up
program.
If
you
relapse,
we
would
like
you
to
come
after
treatment
in
the
first
30
days
of
our
90-day
program
is
on
us.
This
whole
thing
sets
up
going
to
a
very,
very
important
document
that
they
did
in
Palm.
J
Beach
County
is
called
a
Palm
Beach
County,
sober
homes,
task
force
report,
and
this
I
found
it
about
this,
because
I
met
with
law
enforcement
officials
from
Manatee
and
Sarasota
counties
that
are
more
impacted
than
us,
as
well
as
people
from
on
the
Lake
Worth
area,
which
have
very
very
big
problems
with
this.
This
is
this
is
quoting
from
the
report.
J
Florida
laws
after
our
federal
laws,
including
the
mental
health
parity
and
addiction
Equity
Act
of
2008
in
the
Affordable
Care
Act
of
2012,
had
dramatically
increased
required
insurance
coverage
for
behavioral
health
issues,
including
substance
abuse
treatment.
Children
remain
on
their
parent's
insurance
policies
until
age,
26
and
pre-existing
conditions
made
long
longer
be
include
excluded
from
coverage.
Young
adults
with
the
substance
use
disorder
are
being
marketed
to
Florida's
recovery
residences,
known
as
the
sober
homes
and
substance
abuse.
Treatment
providers
brought
a
thousands
emini,
and
this
vulnerable
class
are
being
exploited
and
abused.
J
It
says
that
this
flood
of
out-of-state
patients
with
insurance,
covering
more
lucrative
out
of
certain
networks,
is
pretty
the
billion
dollar
industry
in
Florida,
with
little
oversight
and
says
the
florida's
become
a
medical
vacation
destination
is
desperate.
Parents
continue
to
send
their
adult
children
to
Florida
treatment
in
advertising
about
the
fee.
Schedule
includes
rican
activities
such
as
walks,
bikes
hikes,
golfing,
bowling,
I-I-I.
Think
that
this
is.
J
This
is
not
what
it
appears
to
be,
and,
with
this
said
discussing
this
with
the
residents
who
are
in
the
area,
the
homeowners
in
the
area,
no
one
was
comfortable
with.
This
is
just
that.
Finding
in
and
I'll
tell
you
I
totally
believe
in
these
programs,
but
I
totally
believe
these
programs,
if
they're
done
in
a
manner
they're,
responsible
and
and
I
I,
just
don't
feel
that
this
scenario
was
one
that
we
want
I
mean
from
my
experience
can
being
in
this
world.
J
F
F
J
Rephrase
my
conclusion
on
that:
no,
when
we
talked
about
going
to
the
comp
plan
you're
talking
about
not
having
an
adverse
effect
on
the
adjoining
area,
that
would
be
the
basis
of
this
is
that
I
do
think.
This
actually
is
a
program
life
they're
saying,
but
from
a
standpoint
of
a
professional
aspect
of
the
effectiveness,
doesn't
have
any
outcomes.
Our
community
would
like
to
see
just
there's
just
the
fact
that
that
people
are
allowed
to
be
exposed
to
the
very
triggers
than
me.
Cause
them
to
relapse.
J
To
me
shows
that
this
is
this
is
a
problem.
I
feel
this
is
a
public
safety
issue
in
and
I
actually
truly,
don't
believe
that
a
well
done
program
is
the
public
safety
issue,
but
this
one
here,
the
looseness
of
it,
is
problematic
and
I
feel
that
it
from
the
standpoint
of
going
to
the
coplann
I
find
that
this
is
a
public
safety
issue.
F
B
F
J
C
C
A
C
G
I'd
like
to
comment
sure,
I
think
before
I
came
here
today.
There
was
a
lot
of
good
discussion,
but
I
feel
that
this
was
very
loose
and
I.
Think
that
that's
what
has
made
me
uncomfortable
I
feel
that
it's
not
nothing
to
do
with
the
integrity
of
the
applicant
whatsoever.
But
it's
so
many
questions
that
were
left
to
us.
That
would
raised,
and
just
the
casual
approach
I
feel
that
when
you're
coming
before
the
City
Council,
you
should
be
prepared,
and
you
should
be
have
all
your
facts
and
I
don't
feel.
G
F
F
Our
zoning
code
only
allows
for
these
facilities
in
the
and
only
in
the
medical
overlay
district,
and
only
when
associated
with
a
primary
medical
facility.
Now
stamp
was
trying
to
recall
or
see
any
evidence
as
to
why
that
limitation
was
in
the
zoning
code,
and
we
couldn't
really
find
any
assistance
in
that,
which
is
why
we,
we
felt
that
perhaps
as
a
special
I
City
Attorney
felt
as
a
special
exception.
F
It
would
give
us
the
the
council
the
opportunity
to
evaluate
the
the
application
and
determine
whether
or
not
being
tied
to
a
primary
medical
facility
was
in
fact
necessary
or
with
the
evidence
that
was
presented.
Based
on
that
particular
operation.
It
would
be
the
equivalent
of
a
primary
medical
facility.
Now
I'm,
not
staff
really
was
at
a
loss
to
be
able
to
know
what
would
be
necessary
to
make
a
determination
that
the
operation
would
be
the
equivalent
of
the
type
of
treatments
that
would
be
presented
at
a
primary
medical
facility.
F
But
if,
if
you
feel
in
a
dog,
you
don't
need
to
give
me
an
answer
today,
but
maybe
it's
something
that
you
might
wish
for
us
to
look
into
and
bring
back
to
you
at
a
different
time.
If
you
feel
like
that,
these
facilities
need
to
be
associated
with
a
primary
medical
facility
within
the
medical
overlay
district
and
a
special
exception
which
was
not
written
in
the
code,
should
not
be
made
available
to
other
facilities
that
aren't
part
of
the
medical
facility.
F
Then
we
will
not
entertain
as
special
exceptions,
these
types
of
facilities
that
the
only
facilities
that
would
be
permissible
within
the
city
are
those
within
the
overlay,
district,
medical
overlay,
district
and
primarily
associated
with
a
primary
medical
facility.
So
if
you
want,
we
can
put
that
on
the
agenda
for
some
other
time.
If
you
want
to
give
us
guidance
today,
that's
fine
too,
but
that's
how
it
came
about
that
is
before
you
today
and
and
based
on
the
discussion
of
the
City
Council
I'm,
a
little
troubled
that
you
know
what
we've
presented
to.
F
What
I'm
saying
is
that,
if
you
think,
based
on
the
discussion,
the
code
as
written
is
the
correct
way
to
handle
these
types
of
facilities
that
they
would
be
within
the
medical
overlay
district
and
that
they
be
primarily
associated
with
a
primary
medical
facility.
Then
we
don't
bring
in
as
a
special
exception,
which
is
not
currently
provided
for
in
the
code.
Any
facility
which
is
not
within
that
medical
overlay
district
and
which
is
not
associated
primarily
with
the
primary
medical
facility.
J
See
I
I
think,
more
importantly
than
that,
I
think
that
if
we
were
to
entertain
language
about
the
kind
of
accreditation
that
we
would
like
to
see
patrol
these
half,
because
if
like
that,
one
is
the
same
way
the
hospital
is
Jake
accredited.
If
we
said
that
in
Punta
Gorda
that
any
facility
like
this
would
have
to
be
Carrefour
credited,
they
actually
could
be
an
even
other
places
and
it
wouldn't
have
an
adverse
effect.
But
that's
my
primary
issue
is:
is
that
it
doesn't
fall
within
the
norms
in
terms
of
this
type
of
treatment
program.
J
J
F
Depend
upon
I
think
it
would
depend
upon
the
nature
of
that
relationship
simply
being
endorsed
by
the
medical.
The
primary
mode,
so
dia
would
not
be
enough.
The
primary
medical
facility
was
in
a
contract
with
this
agency
and
agreed
to
be
responsibility
and
obligation
for
overseeing
its
operations.
That
would
come
closer
to
what
I
think
would
be
necessary.
So.