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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 04-18-18 Part 4
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A
The
city
of
Punta
Gorda
is
the
going
crowd,
so
that's
what
they
told
me
and
I
did
not
verify
that,
but
that's
what
they
told
me
and
so
in
a
way
we
are
a
victim
of
our
current
demographic
and
if
we
don't
I
agree
with
you,
it's
got
to
take
baby
steps.
I
mean
we
got
a
queues,
the
other
night
of
being
in
a
rush
and
I'm
like
who's.
Rushing
here
I
mean
we're
taking
so
much
time,
we're
having
all
of
these
discussions
and
nothing
and
they
go
to
hyperbole.
A
That's
already
been
decided,
and
that
is
not
the
case
at
all
and
I
mean
we
heard
it
loud
and
clear,
and
you
know
the
other
stuff
we'll
just
let
it
go
for
now,
but
we
are
a
victim
of
our
debt,
our
current
demographic
and
unless
something
changes,
the
people
that
develop
the
private
property
don't
see
Punta
Gorda
as
their
market.
So
I
don't
know
the
cart
the
horse,
the
chicken,
the
egg.
It's
a
tough
one,
because
you
know
we
got
some
new
retail.
A
B
B
Looking
for
something
to
do,
but
now
we
love
coming
here
and
all
of
our
friends
want
to
come
here
because
there's
a
vibrancy
in
Punta
Gorda
that
didn't
used
to
exist.
So
things
have
changed.
I
know
in
my
neighborhood
when
I
moved
here
it
was
a
lot
of
people
than
where
they're
in
late
80s
I've
got
a
13
year
old
on
one
side
of
me
and
a
7
year
old.
B
On
the
other
side
of
me,
so
I
mean
the
neighborhoods
have
changed
and
I
think
are
going
to
continue
to,
but
it's
an
evolution,
it's
not
going
to
be
something
we're
gonna
do
overnight.
I
would
be
and
I
agree
with
you.
We
need
to
have
this
be
able
to
have
a
conversation
and
be
able
to
moderate
and
not
have
all
of
the
heated
discussion.
Unfortunately,
things
are
different
than
the
way
they
were.
B
God
bless
our
staff
and
the
excellent
capabilities
that
they
have,
but
I
think
that
we
need
someone
to
facilitate
this,
like
a
Jaime,
Correa
type
of
person
that
could
help
facilitate
a
discussion,
a
Charette
that
would
give
people
an
opportunity
to
participate,
but
it
would
help
frame
up.
Maybe
what
codes
might
need
to
be
tweaked
and
and
helped
define
some
of
those
ideas?
I
think
things
are
going
to
change
with
Western
Michigan
coming
here.
I
think
this
place
is
going
to
become
a
college
town
over
time.
B
I
mean
it
has
that
potential,
because
with
college
students
there
are
different
things
and
they
have
their
own
dive
that
they
like
to
go
to,
and
things
like
that.
You
know:
I
grew
up
in
a
town
that
had
a
car
and
we
know
we
all
work.
You
know
I
think
here
with
college
students
or
young
student
young
people
that
knew
what
we'd
like
to
do
at
that
point
in
time
in
our
lives
so
and
I
think
we
will
be
able
to
solve
some
of
these
issues.
I
would.
A
A
We
went
through
that
whole
checklist
of
what
was
incorporated,
because
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
took
out
out
for
Monday
night,
which
maybe
you
can
we
can
talk
here
now
they
hate
the
Marriott,
but
that
all
came
out
of
the
changes
that
we
made.
Yes,
so
if
they
don't
like
that-
and
they
don't
want
any
change,
we're
in
a
no-win
situation
in
that
well
and
in
that.
B
C
B
I
think
it's
gonna
help
us
perhaps,
as
a
community
come
together
around
some
of
these,
so
that
certainly
brought
the
community
together
after
Hurricane
Charley
harvey
was
a
part
of
it
and
it
was
a
real
catalyst
and
and
I
know
that
when
we
sat
down-
and
we
had
representatives
from
team
in
the
city
worked
together
over
90%
of
the
plan
had
been
implemented
in
some
way,
some
some
fashion,
and
there
were
things
that
you
were
just
not
appropriate.
They
were
playing
the
sky
kinds
of
things,
but
I
think
it
would
help
us.
D
I
totally
agree
about
the
team,
Punta
Gorda
I
master
plan,
I
I've
heard
this
loud
and
clear
and
other
venues
all
over
the
place
that
we
should
revisit
that
plan
and
bring
that
current
and
make
it
something
that
we
can
use
as
our
tool
to
guide
us
going
forward,
and
that
would
certainly
get
a
lot
of
the
heat
off
of
council
for
you
know
for
and
against
different
things.
But
I've
heard
it
hundreds
of
times
already
so.
D
I
think
that
that
would
benefit
everybody
in
the
city
for
the
for
the
long
haul
and,
let's
not
make
it
just
a
five-year
plan.
Let's
make
it
a
10
to
a
20
or
a
30-year
plan,
and
what
are
we
doing
now
to
change
things?
What
are
we
going
to
do
ten
years
from
now
and
so
on
and
so
on?
But
I
do
think
that
that
would
be
extremely
valuable
to
the
whole
city
and
and
I
would
even
go
so
far
as
to
make
a
motion
to
to
get
something
started
on
it.
D
As
far
as
the
plan
for
the
downtown
City
marketplace,
property
I
did
contact
one
of
the
principal's
who
was
involved
in
the
one-on-one
meetings
that
we
each
had
I
think
we
all
had
them
and
unfortunately
they
can't
afford
to
buy
the
land.
I'm
saying
it's
now
nine
point:
four
million
dollars
now
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
mr.
Baugh
is
thinking,
but
I
mean
god
bless
him
if
he
can
get
that
kind
of
money
out
of
it.
D
D
We
have
become
a
retirement
community
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
the
baby
boomers
here
now
we
had
a
huge
influx
of
new
citizens
that
moved
here
in
the
early
2000s
and
that's
what
we've
become
and
it's
going
to
take
a
while
before
that
generation
moves
on.
So
we
have
to
decide.
Are
we
going
to
try
to
attract
younger
people?
Are
we
going
to
try
to
do
different
things
than
what
we've
been
doing,
and
how
do
we
go
about
doing
that?
B
E
I'm,
probably
gonna
be
the
funny
guy
III
see
us
is
like
you
know
the
story
of
the
Emperor's.
No
clothes
I
see
it
as
naked
I
think
we
believe
that
we're
wearing
grandiose
clothes
we're
growing
up
here.
All
of
your
needs
can
be
met
in
Punta
Gorda.
Now
you
have
to
cross
the
bridge
north
to
south
to
get
anything.
I
think
I.
Think
honestly,
weird
weird
weird
delusional
in
terms
of
thinking
we're
better
than
we
are
in
terms.
Our
positioning
I've
talked
to
Venice
leadership
about
why
they
have
a
year-round
economy.
E
One
didn't
have
hurricane,
so
they
destroyed
their
downtown.
But
with
that
said,
they
have
a
very,
very,
very
robust,
concentrated
downtown
with
many
many
many
many
businesses
that
allow
their
residents
in
Venice
not
to
leave.
They
have
a
very
similar
demographic
to
find
a
border.
So
there's
some
degree.
We
say
our
demographic,
but
the
truth
is
Venice
is
like
the
same,
but
they
don't
have
these
issues.
Secondly,
they
do
have
a
trolley
system
who
spool
around.
E
Thirdly,
they
treat
their
local
as
well,
but
they
they
they're
not
on
the
thing
where
they
only
value
their
seasonal
residents.
Is
that
it's
actually
a
balance
and
they
make
a
point
to
make
sure
the
local
school
values
are
also,
they
don't
do
to
discounted
offseason
things
as
well.
They
actually
is
consistent
pricing.
They
have
a
year
on
economy,
there
were
similar
demographic
and,
but
they
also
do
the
downtown
and
way
and
I
think
all
the
time
people
think
about
downtown
I.
Think
I
deal
in
people's
mind
would
be
lie.
Celebration,
Florida
and
I.
E
Just
read
what
celebration
Florida
is
because
I
think
this
is
what
people
say
that
they
want,
but
but
if
they
hear
what
it
actually
is,
this
deals
with
our
downtown
of
one
country
downtown.
It
borrowed
heavily
from
burgeoning
young
movement,
called
new
urbanism
pioneered
by
a
duo
of
miami
architects,
the
town
of
seaside.
Just
a
few
years
before,
without
getting
into
specifics,
the
idea
was
simple:
to
combat
the
endless
creeping
invasive
sprawl
they
didn't
golf.
Millions
of
acres
in
the
u.s.
E
planners
will
model
the
developments
on
small
towns,
early
America
with
compact,
downtown's,
walkable
streets,
diverse
housing,
stock
and
plentiful
public
spaces.
I
think
that
we
we
know
this,
but
we
don't
know
this
III,
think
that,
like
planning
and
shredding
to
death,
we're
still
not
addressing
the
fact
that
we
have
to
if
we're
going
to
have
an
actual
town
as
viable,
we've
got
the
picture
downtown
and
I
think
we
want
to
just
talk
around
that
and
I
just
leave.
One
last
thought
this.
E
This
and
I'll
tell
you
at
the
end
who
this
is
as
we
peer
into
society's
future.
We
you
and
I,
and
our
government
must
avoid
the
impulse
to
live
only
for
today,
plundering
for
our
own
ease
and
convenience
of
precious
resources
of
tomorrow.
We
cannot
mortgage
that
material
assets
of
our
grandchildren
without
risking
loss
also
of
their
political
and
spiritual
heritage.
We
want
democracy
to
survive
for
all
the
generations
to
come,
not
to
become
the
insolvent
phantom
of
tomorrow.
E
That
was
President
Eisenhower
in
his
farewell
speech,
I
say
this
because
again
why
I
mentioned
this
improves
no
closed.
I
think
we
all
know
that
we're
moved
back
into
harrassing
hurricane
zone,
we're
just
in
that
time
again
we,
if
hurricane
executes
us
we're
done
or
bankrupt,
we're
pretending
that
we
have
like
time.
We
don't
have
time
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
years,
and
we
also
we
have
this
thing
called
a
Sun
seeker.
What
will
happen
if
we
do
not
choose
our
development
develop
on
our
own
terms?
E
We
will
be
developed,
because
the
economists
will
be
that
someone
can
make
use
of
that.
No
lot
line,
fifty-foot,
ugly
building
and-
and
the
thing
is-
is
that
unless
we
actually
make
a
decisive
choice
to
redevelop,
restore
our
downtown
as
it
was
before
we're
gonna
have
issues.
I
I
think
that
we
don't
have
the
time
we
have
I
think
they
were
playing
with
ourselves
and
I.
Think
that
if
we
don't
want
the
market
to
force
us,
what
we
don't
want
to
do,
I
think
we
have
to
get
on
top
of
this.
E
I
think
that
I
really
think
that
we
have
to
be
more
assertive
and
more
decisive
and
we
have
to
listen
to
all
of
our
people
like
we
were
very
weak
to
the
point
where
we
only
go
a
popularity
contest
and
when
it
comes
to
our
situation
in
this
role,
we're
not
supposed
to
go
off
properly
to
Congress
we're
supposed
to
be
thinking
about
the
Ritter
everything
we
we
do
not
consider
too
many
people
Punta
Gorda.
We
consider
the
people
that
speak
to
us
at
these
meetings.
Good
number
people
work.
E
We
don't
hear
them
I
personally,
like
9
o'clock
morning
meetings,
but
with
that
said,
I
have
to
do
I
know
for
a
fact
I'm
not
hearing
for
a
majority
of
people.
It's
so
pretending
that
listening
to
people
here
only
is
is,
is
representative
of
Punta
Gorda.
This
is
not
true
and
I
think
that
we
have
to
get
past
this,
but
I
do
think
we
owe
it
to
our
present
residents
and
our
future
residents
that
would
get
on
this,
and
we
actually
restore
downtown
I.
Think
is
a
very
important,
though
so.
A
One
thing
that
came
up
is
the
the
misinformation
that
we
heard
on
Monday
night
I
mean
somebody
stood
up
and
said:
you
know
everybody
knows
who
owns
the
city
marketplace.
He
lives
in
Punta.
Gorda
I've
personally
never
met
the
man,
he
does
not
live
in
Punta
Gorda
he
lives
in
Naples
is
LLC.
Everything
is
registered
in
Naples,
so
whoever
they
think
owns
it
really
does
not
own
it.
I
mean
I
mean
we
heard
so
much
stuff
that
went
on
that
they're,
just
they
weren't
listening.
F
A
E
We
one
thing
on
there's
no
way
through
what
our
residents
really
enjoy.
It's
funny,
because
if
we're
not
forward-thinking
and
we
only
go
off
poverty
contests,
we
would
not
have
fisherman's
village.
We
would
not
have
me
Vontae,
we
would
not
have
Leslie
Crab
House,
it
would
not
have
button
village,
wouldn't
that
have
the
7-eleven.
D
C
I'm
glad
that
this
is
this
is
this:
this
conversation
is
going
the
way
it
is
I.
We
do
have
a
short-term
problem
and
jaha
you.
Thank
you.
Coming,
sir
councilman
comments,
you
just
touched
on
it
again.
We
have
a
shirt,
a
problem
with
our
short-term
reserve.
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
ask
our
staff
to
deal
with
aggressively
this
year
personally.
That
just
me
personally
also
when
we
talk
about
cut
the
Gorda.
C
I
applaud
my
plot,
all
of
you
for
standing
firm
to
do
the
right
things
when
when
we
get
them
as
a
piecemeal
and
that's
the
purposes,
I
just
wants
to
think
a
little
bit
more
holistically.
I.
Also,
don't
want
us
to
forget:
our
staff
has
demonstrated
multiple
times
that
they
can
handle
big
projects.
We've
got
a
wonderful
water
treatment
plant
coming
on
line
here
in
the
next
two
years.
C
The
city
had
it
and
one
of
the
things
Kim
Victor
and
I
got
up
here
because
of
my
energy
Kim
said
she
thanked
me
for
being
there
because
she
wasn't
she
made
when
they
made
the
decision
they
there
was
some
nervousness
because
it
was
a
lot
of
money
and
I
came
on
as
a
you
know.
Technically
this
is
pretty
cool
and,
and
Kim
told
me
that
she
took
it.
C
I
took
a
breath
after
my
first
chance
that
I
got
to
do
my
technical
thing
with
these
guys,
but
the
point
being
is:
is
we've
got
an
airport?
It's
not
in
our
city,
but
we've
got
an
airport.
We've
got
a
service
area
that
is
going
to
have
an
abundance
of
water.
We've
already
stayed
taken
the
next
steps
to
ensure
that
we
have
sewer
available.
C
We've
taken
that
so
we're
talking
about
downtown
and
that's
absolutely
important,
because
it's
gonna
it's
going
to
be
important
to
develop
downtown
if
we're
gonna
develop
or
we
see
the
development
of
the
industrial
park
and
you
have
in
that
industrial
park.
As
I
understand,
you
have
Cheney
brothers.
There
that's
already
signed
a
letter
of
intent
that
if
we
ever
get
to
touch
them,
they're
gonna
add
an
accent.
D
C
E
C
Lot
going
on
in
this
community
and
and
culturally
I
think
we're
in
pretty
good
shape.
I
think
what
we
laugh
is
the
image
and
that's
part
of
what
branding
is
about
is
to
attract
these
other
avenues,
to
allow
us
to
be
a
good,
viable
community
and
still
maintain
the
core
of
what
we
have
and
that's
that's
our
challenge
and
that's
why
I
just
wanted
to
bring
this
so
that
we
think
about
that
in
total.
C
So
there's
when
we're
talking
about
Boca,
Grande
neighborhood,
we're
not
talking
about
boqueron
neighborhood,
we're
talking
about
it
as
in
the
entirety
of
Punta
Gorda.
If
we
and
I
would
encourage
staff
to
look
at
it
that
a
cur
that's
sitting
in
in
bird
section,
you
know
I
put
it
down,
you
know
it's
down
to
a
hundred
and.
D
C
Would
cost
a
little
money
to
develop
it
because
there's
no
water
to
that
dead
lot
right
now,
but
you
know
if
we
do
something
we
do
something
I'm
just
saying
we
should
think
in
those
terms
and
and
then
also
when
we
do
do
a
plan.
We're
talking
about
updating
a
2005
plan.
It
really
needs
to
be
up
to
us
to
teach
plan
is
updated
yearly,
just
like
a
budget
because
things
do
change
on
a
yearly
basis.
So
that
should
be
part.
C
D
B
D
A
B
B
Think
it's
assessments
is
one
of
those
things
that
we
may
we've
been
able
to
avoid
successfully,
but
it
may
be
a
topic
that
we
need
to
explore
only
because
when
you
look
at
assessments
there
are
many
groups
right
now
that
don't
pay
assessments
when
it
comes
to
nonprofits
government
it
just
people
that
may
have
the
property
value
may
be
so
low
that
they
don't
pay
the
you
know
property
taxes.
So
there
there
are
things
services
that
we
are
delivering
that
maybe
need
to
be
more
broadly
distributed
and
would
help
us
and.
A
B
F
Wise,
we
don't
have
enough
people
to
put
out
a
proposal
to
bring
a
firm
on
board,
to
update,
to
take
a
look
at
the
citizens,
Bastyr
plan
and
see
where
we
need
to
go.
Do
we
have
enough
support
now
to
put
it
out
on
the
street,
so
we
can
bring
somebody
on
board,
see
what
it
costs
and
get
moving
on
it.
Do.
B
I
was
gonna
support
that
Howard,
because
one
of
the
issues
having
been
deeply
involved
in
all
this,
it
was
a
citizen
led
event
when
we
did
the
citizen's
master
plan,
which
was
wonderful,
but
we
used
Delray
Beach
azzam
as
a
model
and
Delpit
Delray
Beach
had
the
same
consultant.
Jaime
Correa
helped
them.
The
difference
was
Delray
Beach
hired,
Jaime
Korea,
a
city
heart,
so
it
was.
It
was
a
much
easier
process
at
the
time
to
really
implement
because
it
of
the
city
took
a
leadership
role
and
I.
A
F
A
F
F
E
F
The
last
point
I
want
to
make
is
I
think
we
all
need
to
stop
beating
us
over
the
head.
If
we
have
a
very
enviable
community,
we
continue
to
do
so,
or
else
all
these
folks
wouldn't
be
moving
here
or
else
the
historic
district
area
wouldn't
be
filling
up
under
corner
aisles
and
burn,
store,
aisles
and
burn
burn.
Star
meadows
wouldn't
be
filling
up.
People
want
to
be
here
but
stop
killing
ourselves.
We
are
very
enviable
place
to
live
absolutely.
E
One
last
thing:
I'm,
just
with
our
thinking
about
this
global
thing,
for
when
it
comes
to
future
projects
like
the
cut
through
I,
had
a
meeting
last
week
with
residents
up
in
the
in
like
the
Collingwood
edgewater
area,
because
you
know
they
have
their
own
thing,
Emme
worth
us
considering
having
a
special
district
created
for
that
that
way,
it
can
then
assume
the
cost
of
it,
and
so
wouldn't
impact
the
city
as
much.
It
would
be
it's
entity,
a
job,
just
something
to
explore.
D
A
E
Know
we
have
like
city,
county
school
board,
special
district,
be
able
to
go
to
the
bond
market
and
actually
because
they're
making
amortized
the
cost
over
a
longer
period
of
time.
It
would
be
probably
a
less
of
assessment
to
the
residents
and
the
city
wouldn't
have
that
financial
berth
I'm
just
saying
something
to
explore.
We
just
have
laws
on
hand
which
we
can
use.
Plus,
let's
say
if
there
wasn't
issues
a
female
something
like
that
company
would
be
responsible
going
to
commit
I
just
say
for
us.
We
know
how
much
staff
we
have.
E
We
also
there's
expertise
there.
Companies
that
do
this,
like
West
villages,
has
this.
The
villages
has
this.
These
are
the
kind
of
things
I
just
think
we
can,
you
know,
being
more
strategic.
This
is
a
way
we
can
cauterize
that,
so
it
would
be
good,
but
also
for
our
residents.
It
would
make
the
cost
of
it
less
and
it
would
limit
it
to
that
area.
I.
Just
you.
E
E
But
the
county
knows
the
process
with
this,
like
the
county
would
have
to
there's
there's
a
whole
process.
Especially
district
is
its
own
government.
They
have
his
own
board
and
are
you
able
to
go
to
the
board
and
be
able
to
go
to
the,
but
example
we're
looking
at
paying
for
this
property,
etc?
It's
gonna
cost
X
amount.
We
would
be
able
to
absorb
this
cost
without
absorbing
the
cost.
I.
Don't
just
something
explore
I.
E
Our
budget
right
now
at
this
point,
where
our
whole
future
is
we're
still
paying
more
and
more
without
any,
more
clear
activity.
Part
of
this
is
trying
to
you
know,
balance
this
out.
That's
one
of
the
ways
you
can
else
tell
if
people
don't
want
a
certain
amount
of
activity,
we
can't
have
it,
so
we
want
to
pay
all
this
money
and
no
activity
you
have
to
be.
We
have
to
choose.
These
are
some
of
the
choices.
That's
what
the
conversation
is
part
of
having
a
balanced
conversation
about
not
bankrupt
in
the
city,
with.
C
E
The
purpose
of
Finance
only
it's
kind
of
like
if
we
were
looking
at
doing-
let's
say
residential
things
like
the
airport,
let's
say
for
Washington
Michigan
University
setting
one
up
would
provide
a
financing
vehicle
that
would
allow
it
to
be
paid
for
and
I
have
to
come
out
of
the
city
of
County
coffers.
I'm
saying
this
is
just
the
conversation
in
terms
of
creative
financing.
That's
that's
what
this
is
not,
but.
A
E
I
mean
it
depends,
I
mean
it's
not,
but
it
is
I
mean
it's
gonna
be
assist,
but
let's
say
there's
a
FEMA
or
something
happens.
Hurricane
happens.
We're
gonna
need
to
pay
in
advance
for
what
I'm
saying
I'm
just
thinking
about.
We
just
don't
think
enough
about
the
impacts
of
what
we're
doing
and
it's
just
something.
I.
C
I
can
see
with
a
larger
project.
This
isn't
the
brick.
That's
not
that
big
a
project
I
can
see
with
a
larger
project.
What
you're
talking
about
and
I
think
it's
worth
to
bring
an
agenda
to
discuss
that
and
get
learn.
The
ins
and
outs
I
think
there
could
be
projects
in
the
future
that
that
could
be
beneficial
to
us.
I'm,
not
sure
about
this,
but
I'm
open.
F
We
redesigned
the
park
and
we
put
together
some
regulations
and
stay
the
course.
By
staying
the
course,
we
will
continue
as
a
staff
to
not
rent
out
the
park
on
Tuesday
and
Thursday
night
and
allow
musicians,
whoever
whoever
wants
to
come
on
a
first
come
from
Asus
and
play
music
or
play
in
the
grass
and
do
whatever
you
want.
We
will
continue
to
just
do
that.
F
The
second
option
is
just
take
up
the
bollards
and
let
anybody
park
on
the
grass
anytime.
You
want
go
back
to
the
way
it
used
to
be.
The
third
option
is
only
allow
parking
on
the
grass
for
Tuesday
and
Thursday
night.
We
can
do
that.
We
removed
the
bollards
or
around
3:00
3:30,
and
we
put
them
back
the
next
morning.
F
The
fourth
option
is
to
have
the
guitar
army
folks
get
an
event
permit
or
get
a
sponsor
to
sponsor
and
pay
for
an
event
permit,
and
in
that
way,
as
a
special
event,
its
contained
they
can
the
it's
their
park
for
that
Tuesday
or
Thursday
night
they'll
have
to
purchase.
They
have
to
pay
for
the
permit,
in
which
case,
if
there's
any
damage,
we
can
go
and
use
those
dollars
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
bring
it
back
together.
F
F
One
option
is
to
add
30
to
40
more
parking
spaces.
Now
that
would
take
up
some
of
the
grass
area
already
and
put
in
more
parking
by
the
pavilion
all
the
way
on
down
to
Durance.
We
would
have
to
then
add
some
more
stormwater
retention,
but
that
would
definitely
add
more
parking.
Of
course,
that
would
also
not
include
parking
on
the
grass
and
the
seventh
option
is
to
realign
some
of
the
parking
spaces
on
Harvey
Street
entrance.
We
currently
have
two
a.da
spaces.
F
F
If
you
heard
from
the
folks
from
the
guitar
army
and
those
who
and
other
than
the
guitar
army,
those
who
support
the
Tuesday
and
Thursday
night
music,
it
doesn't
matter
how
many
parking
spaces
you
add
the
key.
Is
they
want
parking
on
the
grass?
That's
the
way
it's
always
been
done.
So
those
are
your
options.
Thank.
E
D
F
C
B
A
A
It's
really
rough
I
mean
I,
pulled
it
up
on
Google
Earth,
and
this
was
even
before
they
built
the
other
tiki
hut,
the
chickee
huts
that
they
have
there,
but
the
the
areas
is
really
beat
up
and
I
think
you
know
if
we
did
allow
parking
on
the
grass,
where
we're
just
gonna
give
up
what
what
we
just
installed.
So
there's
really
no
way
around
that
to
say
it's
just
gonna
perk
back
up
and
be
fine.
A
E
Think
that
this
discussion
is
actually
a
larger
discussion
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
that
I
think
it's
really
about
people
being
overlooked
and
planning
that
I
think
that
we
as
a
council
have
gotten
used
to
making
our
decisions
based
on
only
who
we're
hearing
and
and
not,
who
is
also
there.
I
give
example:
whenever
we
were
talking
about
the
waterfront
activity,
center
I
ended
up
meeting
with
the
bayfront
dancers.
These
are
two
hundred
others
that
meet
twice
a
week.
E
A
similar
200
people
is
like
craziness
home,
but
the
fact
that
they've
been
there
for
10
years.
They
didn't
exist
as
a
stakeholder
like
in
the
whole
conversation.
They
did
not
exist
and
they
are
the
like
longest
standing.
People
with
that
facility.
Point
me
saying
this:
is
that
I
think
we
ourselves
have
gotten
too
used
to
not
actually
looking
to
think
about
that
bigger
picture
that
only
was
put
in
front
of
us
and
part
of
it?
Why
bothers
people
buying?
There
is
I
think
it's
the
new
2040.
E
We
may
see
on
the
citizens
input
that
we
receive
based
on
the
competition
for
evidence
and
a
reflection
on
this
here
this.
This
is
a
very,
very
big
conference
to
plan
the
one
this
with
the
state
that
really
gives
us
a
bigger
picture
and
I
find
that
a
consequence
is
yes.
We
can
say
that
the
guitar
army
should
have
been
at
these
discussions
over
the
last
night,
but
if
they
weren't,
it
still
doesn't
mean
that
they
shouldn't
be
represented.
I
find
that
we
are
in
a
situation
where
this
is
this.
E
E
Is
that,
based
on
I
I,
believe
in
a
parking
ban,
but
I
believe
that,
in
terms
of
this,
that,
because
of
the
historical
overflow
that
actually
recognized
in
terms
of
just
us,
actually
not
having
enough
spaces
on
there
historically,
that
I
would
say
that
if
we
had
signage,
that
said
specifically
for
these
two
days,
parking
was
allowed
there.
Only.
That
would
be
I
think
a
way
to
deal
with
this
gap,
because
I
do
think
that
we
should
have
a
party
man
but
I.
Think
in
this
case
we
historically
have
had
over
it
and
I.
E
Think
that
recognizing
that
that
wasn't
in
our
plans,
because
that
wasn't
spoken
and
we've
gotten
used
to
only
responding
to
what
is
spoken
and
maybe
not
stare.
It's
kind
of
like
when
al
F
came
up.
I
ended
up
meeting
with
a
bunch
of
elders
in
their
80s
who
did
not
come
to
meetings
but
who
every
single
one
of
them
asked
me.
Can
you
please
bring
in
a
LF
class
a
to
our
city
because
I
want
to
have
somewhere
to
live
when
I'm
older
I
want
to
be
with
my
friends?
E
Not
that
sentiment
was
not
expressed
any
of
our
meetings.
I
had
to
go
out
and
seek
it.
I
had
to
go
out
and
meet
with
other
people
who
lived
in
a
community
who
I
thought
may
also
be
impacted,
but
and
I'm
saying
that
we
ourselves.
We
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
really
understanding
all
of
our
people,
not
only
the
ones
who
are
voicing
themselves.
I
guess.
B
B
Okay,
you've
really
struck
a
chord
with
me
and
it
we
really
take
this
job
seriously
and
don't
and
try
to
do
the
best
job.
We
can
and
consider
all
facts
and
I
know
that
Rachel
you've
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time.
I,
don't
think
it's
just
what
comes
up
here
at
the
Dyess
right,
it's
not
and
and
I
get
it
there.
There
can
be
a
group
that
maybe
has
Joe
have
chosen
not
to
we
have
residents
that
don't
even
pay
attention
to
anything
I
mean
I
got
an
email.
B
A
I
do
I
do
feel
bad
about.
You
know.
I
asked
our
engineering
firm
to
be
here
to
listen,
listen
to
the
pain
that
we're
going
through
now,
because
when
you
do
go
visit
that
roundabout
area
I
think
we
had
really
good
intentions.
We
still
wanted
to
have
a
drop-off,
it's
a
DEA,
compliant
where
it
probably
was
not
ideal.
Before
we
wanted
a
drop-off
area,
we
it
we
do
host
events
in
the
park,
so
we
did
want
to
accommodate
the
events.
We
have
long-standing
events
that
have
taken
place
in
that
Park.
A
So
I
think
you
know
going
in
that
roundabout
area
I
really
do
see
a
way
that
that
specific
area
could
have
been
better.
We
took
the
fire
truck
cause.
It
was
you
know
the
fire
truck
and
being
able
to
turn
around
and
all
of
that.
But
if
there's
an
emergency,
the
fire
trucks
gonna,
pull
in
and
they're
gonna
jump
out,
they're
gonna
worry
about
getting
the
truck
out
of
their
Lane
they're,
not
gonna,
go
all
the
way
around
the
circle
and
then
park
and
then
get
out
I
mean
so
I.
Don't
know.
A
I
am
disappointed
and
in
the
way
that
the
park
evolved
over
time,
I
think
we've
looked
at
it
so
many
times
that
we
just
kind
of
really
didn't
visualize,
that
specific
area
cuz
I
feel
like
if
we
could
have
redesigned
that
and
a
backwards
P
and
kept
the
parking
going
and
because
somebody
did
say
to
me,
there's
no
place
to
really
pull
in
to
be
able
to
look
at
the
sunset.
You
know
with
it's
on
street
parking
and
the
parking
going.
A
The
roundabout
for
me
that
raised
area
is
where
I
had
the
questions
of.
Why
we
did
that
in
that
specific
area
cuz
it
feels
like
it
could
have
been
more
space
for
parking,
so
I,
don't
know
I
mean
we
did
get
an
email
that
if
we
do
do
any
kind
of
redesign
it
has
to
go
through
F
dot,
which
we
know
what
we
went
through
with
that
and
you
gotta
have
ppm
manuals
and
I
don't
even
know
know
how
that
would
work.
A
So
I,
don't
really
think
that's
fiscally
responsible
at
this
time,
so
I'm
I'm
just
really
really
hesitant
to
do
anything
then
we'll,
except
for
more
a
TA,
because
I
went
down
there
with
Ric
and
we
could
turn
three
three
of
those
parking
spaces
into
two
more
a
TA.
That's
that
would
be
great
I
think
we
definitely
should
do
that,
but
other
than
that
that
we
haven't
been
through
a
rainy
season
event
season.
We're
gonna
have
construction
in
there
with
the
bathrooms
I
just
I.
Don't.
E
E
Regard
in
I
apologize
if
it
was
not
because
I
was
assuming
it
as
a
we
when
I
was
talking
about
dropping
the
ball,
not
just
you
because,
like
example,
in
historic
district,
when
residents
have
felt
neglected
for
a
great
deal,
it's
a
part
of
why
there's
the
energy
was
forming
it.
But
with
that
said,
with
myself,
I
forget
about
Carmelita
Boca
Grande.
Those
areas
I
have
to
make
sure
myself
that
they
exist
in
my
mind,
because
what
I'm
resisting
I,
my
brain
is
thinking
residents
near
the
waterfront
area,
and
so
even
myself.
E
I
have
to
make
sure
that
I'm
not
remiss
in
making
sure
that
I
reach
people
in
these
areas,
because
many
of
them
in
those
areas
are
working
and
they're,
not
gonna,
be
here
and
I
can't
assume,
because
they're
not
here
that
they
don't
have
a
voice,
that
they
don't
want
things.
That's
what
I'm
saying
this
is
dumb
saying
this
is
a
shared
thing.
It's
not
any
indictment
of.
F
You
you
asked
if
our
public
works,
maintenance
worker
could
have
the
leeway
to
make
a
determination
on
Tuesday
or
Thursday
night
at
this
raining.
My
response
is,
please,
do
not
please
do
not
allow
it,
because,
as
soon
as
as
soon
as
he
or
she,
whoever
is
maintaining
the
park
at
the
time,
says
no,
the
folks
on
music
on
Tuesday
and
Thursday
night,
if
they're
not
allowed
to
park
on
the
grass
we're
gonna
hear
about
it.
A
D
A
D
Would
still
like
to
see
a
design
where
we
go
back
to
the
way
it
was
before.
That
would
allow
people
to
pull
up
in
front
of
the
pavilion
at
least
get
closer
to
where
the
rebo
is
and
be
able
to
park
down
in
that
area
at
the
very
least,
because
I
think
would
make
more
sense,
I'm,
not
crazy
about
the
u-shape
at
all,
I
think
that's
overkill
and
inside
the
park
you
want
it
to
be
a
park.
You
want
it
to
be
maintained
as
a
park,
but.
B
D
C
I,
don't
an
industry,
we
have
the
80/20
rule,
you
can
corrupt
80%
of
the
problem
for
20%
of
the
effort
and
then
the
last
20%
takes
eighty
percent
of
the
effort
and
nothing
is
ever
perfect.
So
this
is
the
first
there's
there's
this
huge
park
along
the
harbor
and
we've
got
plans
to
work
our
way
down
it.
C
So
if
we
have
made
a
error
here
for
some
of
our
coasts,
it's
maybe
and
I'm
very
empathetic
towards
the
Qatar
Army,
the
long
term
solution,
maybe
what
we
do
down
here
for
them,
because
maybe
we
need
to
leave
this
the
way
it
is,
but
we
still
have
room
to
change
what
we
do
over
here
and
maybe
accommodate
that.
You
know
I
I'm,
just
saying
is
the
bait.
We
should
open
our
mind,
look
at
it
the
whole
area,
all
the
way
down
to
was
it.
What's
the
last
parkland,
your
Park.
C
You've
got
Park
all
the
way
down
to
Fisherman's
Village,
there's
a
lot
of
property
in
there
that
maybe
we
can
do
something
different.
Maybe
we
could
do
something
on
Henry,
Street
I,
don't
know,
I'm
just
saying
that
we
have
space
within
this
community
that
we
can
accommodate,
as
we
make
issues,
maybe
see
if
there's
another
way
to
to
have
our
cake
and
eat
it
too.
What.
F
It
was
to
put
in
the
mayor,
said
it
to
put
in
parking
along
Harvey
to
put
in
the
roundabout
to
we
had
to
move
the
pavilions
back,
because
we
whiten
the
Harbor
walk.
We
whiten
the
harbor
walk
from
a
sidewalk
into
a
20
Harborwalk
to
allow
a
lot
of
different
activities
to
occur
without
getting
into
each
other.
So
we
had
to
bring
the
pavilions
back.
New
restroom
has
to
come
back.