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From YouTube: Punta Gorda City Council 6-7-17 Part 1
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A
B
D
For
those
just
learning,
as
well
as
those
having
years
of
experience
and
whereas
gardening
promotes
a
healthy
lifestyle
that
lasts
lasts.
A
lifetime
helps
reduce
stress
from
other
areas
of
our
life
and
teaches
that
rewards
can
come
from
diligent
efforts
and
whereas
gardening
enables
members
of
the
Port
Charlotte,
Honda,
Gorda
and
Lemon
Bay
garden
clubs
to
promote
community
interest
in
horticulture,
further
the
art
of
amateur
gardening
and
serve
others.
D
Now,
therefore,
the
City
Council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
does
hereby
proclaim
June
or
through
10th
2017
as
national
garden
week,
and
encourages
residents
to
acknowledge
the
importance
of
gardening
and
the
numerous
contributions
of
gardeners
and
garden
clubs
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session,
the
seventh
day
of
June
2017.
So
you
can
go
to
Florida,
Rachael,
Keeling,
mayor
and
accepting
is
excusing
vinay
de
Joan
I.
E
F
E
C
F
Good
morning,
everyone
thanks
al
Venus
here.
Well
as
we
as
formally
introduced
me
on
Marbury
Sonya
Owens,
and
on
as
the
president
of
the
Caribbean
gherkin
culture
fest.
We
we
we
just
want
to
say
thank
you
in
everywhere,
the
sewing
she
has
worked
very
hard
in
making
this
possible
and
being
with
you
guys
to
take
it
to
another
level
where
we
can
reach
out
or
family
more
in
our
community.
You
know
to
give
to
our
community.
That's
the
goal.
That's
the
aim.
Thank
you
for
helping
us
to
execute
this
vision.
God
bless
you.
A
We
also
would
like
to
announce
it
on
on
Sunday
June,
the
25th
at
the
beach
port
charlotte
beach
complex.
We
actually
having
a
celebration
to
celebrate
the
caribbean
american
heritage
a
month.
Where
will
we
have
food
drinks?
Is
free
and
open
to
the
public?
It
will
be
live,
music
is
for
the
family.
So
if
you
could
come
out
and
join
us,
thank.
B
E
H
A
H
Name
is
Jenna
black
I
am
the
sanitation
supervisor
for
the
Public
Works
Department,
we're
here
today
to
recognize
Ricky,
Platt,
first
15
years
of
excellent
service
to
the
city,
Ricky's,
a
senior
crew
chief
with
a
sanitation
division.
He
was
born
in
1963
and
graduated
from
Charlotte
high.
He
is
15,
wonderful
grandchildren.
He
spent
a
lot
of
his
time
with
he
enjoys
watching
youth
for
it
and
he's
a
big
Seminoles
fan.
Ricky
is
my
go-to
guy.
Whenever
it
comes
with
picking
up
anything
throughout
the
city,
I
can
count
on
him
for
anything.
H
He'll
help
me
no
matter
what
it
is:
white
Goods,
piles,
bulk
pickups
he's
great
he's,
very
reliable.
So
for
being
the
new
supervisor
for
the
Public
Works
Department
for
the
Sanitation
division,
I
know
I
can
count
on
it.
He's
wonderful
he's
my
go-to
and
he's
reliable,
he's
there
every
day,
rain
or
shine.
So
a
lot
of
you
have
seen
him
run
the
clamshell
truck.
He
picked
up
the
tractor
pile
at
the
white
goods
and
everything
else.
So
I
know
he
gets
everything
done
and
he's
our
fault
too
guy.
B
A
I
You
mayor
a
pinkie,
Howard
members,
council
members
yea
the
legislative
session
this
year
was
a
little
bit
different,
but
the
truth
is
that
they're
all
a
little
bit
different
and
you
know,
they're
governed
by
a
whole
host
of
factors.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
governed
the
factors
making
this
session
a
little
bit
different
and
what
actually
passed
would
actually
failed.
What
we're
likely
to
see
come
back
and
what's
happening
quite
frankly,
right
now,
and
we
speak
with
a
new
special
session
from
Wednesday
to
Friday
on
some
budget
issues.
I
So
to
put
this
in
a
broader
context,
some
of
this.
As
a
recap,
most
people
know
this,
but
some
some
don't.
Of
course
we
have
general
election
cycle
every
two
years,
but
every
one
every
other
one
of
those
is
a
presidential
election
cycle.
All
of
Florida's
cabinet-level
positions
such
as
governor
attorney
general
agriculture,
commissioner
and
chief
financial
officer,
are
up
for
election
in
the
off
year
term.
I
So
most
people
have
the
perception
that
well
most
of
the
political
activity
goes
on
during
a
presidential
election
cycle
in
Florida,
it's
kind
of
the
opposite
because
all
of
our
state
level
positions
and
it
most
of
the
legislative
positions
are
up
that
period
as
well.
So
with
the
presidential
election
cycle,
though,
you
turn
over
the
leadership
of
both
the
House
and
the
Senate,
and
so
you
get
a
new
speaker
and
a
new
Senate
President
and
they're
working
together,
ostensibly
for
the
first
time
and,
of
course,
personalities
and
ideology
and
style
matter
a
lot.
I
So
this,
during
this
legislative
session,
we
had
a
new
Speaker
of
the
House
Richard
Corcoran
and
a
new
president
of
the
Senate
joe
Negron,
and
they
have
some
competing
views
on
some
key
issues.
Typically,
a
new
speaker
or
a
new
Senate
President
has
a
host
of
priorities
that
are
particularly
interested
interests
of
interest
to
them,
and
a
lot
of
policy
issues
tend
to
get
tied
in
with
those
in
a
negotiating
or
strategic
posture.
I
So,
for
example,
the
the
house
side
they're
a
couple
of
their
main
priorities,
were
to
reign
in
what
they
framed
as
corporate
welfare.
In
the
context
of
economic
development
programs,
they
have
felt
as
though
things
like
Enterprise
Florida
and
visit
Florida,
that,
although
they
don't
disagree,
that
the
programs
can
be
of
value,
they
believe
that
maybe
they
haven't
had
enough
oversight
that
they've
grown
too
much
and
they
see
it
as
corporate
welfare.
Obviously,
that's
a
huge
priority
for
the
governor,
and
so
there
was
a
natural
tension
over
those
issues.
I
Ultimately,
what
happened
in
that
one
was
that
the
funding
for
visit
Florida
was
cut
from
75
million
down
to
about
26
million
the
funding
for
visit
or
SUNY
food,
for
that
was
funding
for
visit
Florida.
The
funding
for
enterprise
Florida
was
cut
from
I
think
25
million
down
to
16
million.
That
is
one
of
the
issues
by
the
way
that
has
been
put
back
on
the
table
after
the
session,
the
approximation
by
the
governor
calling
the
legislature
back
up
there
to
add
more
money,
so
I'll
get
to
that
in
a
moment.
I
And
so
historically,
there
has
been
a
belief
that
what
needs
to
happen
in
addition
to
the
historic,
comprehensive,
Everglades,
restoration
plan
or
SERP
that
was
put
in
place
under
Jeb
Bush,
working
with
the
federal
government
to
try
to
restore
the
flow
to
the
river
of
grass.
The
natural
southerly
flow
there's
been
a
belief
that
that
that
didn't
go
far
enough
and
that
more
storage
was
necessary,
more
reservoirs
and
so
senator
Negron
wanted
to
make
that
a
priority
that
costs
a
lot
of
money.
I
So
that
was
a
heavily
negotiated
issue,
because
that
was
not
a
priority
of
the
house.
Ultimately,
what
happened
on
that?
One
was
that
the
budget
did
include
funding
for
ultimately
1.5
billion
dollars
worth
of
acquisition
of
land
to
create
reservoirs
of
approximately
sixty
thousand
acre
feet
of
water.
If
you
can
do
that,
Matt
a
lot
of
water
basically
comes
out
of
Lake
Okeechobee
and
the
Kissimmee
Chain
of
Lakes,
and
it
would
stage
in
in
those
reservoirs
before
they
get
further
released.
I
As
I
said,
it's
a
billion
and
a
half
dollars
half
by
the
federal
government,
half
by
the
state
about
sixty
four
million
of
which
to
be
paid
out
of
this
year's
budget
and
then
the
rest
bonded
overtime.
So
the
bottom
of
the
point
that
I'm
making
is
the
Senate
got
some
of
its
priorities,
not
as
big
as
it
wanted.
The
house
got
some
of
its
priorities
and
then
a
lot
of
other
things
died
in
in
the
mix
of
that.
Obviously,
there
were
a
host
of
bills
that
we
had
to
fend
off.
I
But
there
was
generally
a
trend
or
a
theme,
this
year
after
a
very
robust
election
cycle,
of
a
fair
number
of
bills
coming
forward
that
were
a
reflection
of
things
that
candidates
had
been
hearing
on
the
campaign
trail,
most
of
which
were
somewhat
anecdotal
from
other
parts
of
the
state
and
don't
necessarily
make
a
lot
of
don't
necessarily
apply
directly
in
the
way
that
we
do
business
here,
but
so,
for
example,
some
of
the
preemption
bills,
Community
Redevelopment
Agency
bill.
That
was
very
contentious.
I
There
have
been
some
examples
where
state
audits
of
those
CRA
s
have
shown
that
there
has
not
been
strong
or
transparent
financial
controls
over
those.
Some
of
them
have
engaged
in
mission
creep
if
you
will-
and
there
are
people
in
other
parts
of
the
state
where
that
happens,
who
have
gotten
very
frustrated
and
become
very
vocal,
and
so
there
was
a
bill.
This
session
that
would
have
essentially
said
you
can't
create
any
more
CRA
s
without
a
special
act
of
the
legislature.
I
So
from
the
legislators
perspective,
they
feel
like
they
needed
to
respond
to
that
problem
and
get
greater
control
over
that
from
a
local
governments
perspective.
It
feels
as
though
you
know,
there's
an
erosion
of
local
control.
Ultimately,
that
bill
did
not
did
not
pass
some
bills
that
did
pass,
for
example,
implementation
of
the
solar
property
tax
exemption
that
passed
during
the
recent
during
this
last
election
cycle
as
a
ballot
initiative
in
the
Constitution
that
did
ultimately
pass
and
the
governor
just
signed
that
two
days
ago.
I
Essentially
that
exempts
certain
commercial
properties
from
additional
property
tax
assessments
based
upon
the
increased
value
by
adding
solar
panels,
and
then
it
also
applies
to
non-residential
as
to
personal
property
tax
exemptions.
That's
a
bill
to
pass
a
bill
that
passed
most
of
the
sale,
traditional
sales
tax
holidays
past
the
the
biggest
portion
of
the
tax
cut
package
was
a
reduction
in
sales
tax
on
commercial
rents.
That's
something
that
receives
a
lot
of
attention
in
Tallahassee
every
single
year
by
a
lot
of
small
businesses
that
are
affected
by
that
quite
a
bit.
I
Another
bill
that
passed
that
was
heavily
supported
by
us
and
by
the
League
of
Cities,
with
whom
we
work
very
closely
and
collaborate
is
public
records,
request
reform
in
some
parts
of
the
state
there
has
been
a
small
number
of
attorneys
law
firms
who
have
exploited
that
process.
In
my
view,
and
in
the
view
of
many
people
across
the
state
actually
abused
it
taken
advantage
of
it
used
it
as
a
gotcha
scenario
and
caused
the
taxpayers
a
lot
of
money
in
attorneys
fees
that
were
absolutely
unnecessary.
I
Originally,
we
put
attorneys
fee
provisions
in
the
statute
for
public
records
requests
so
that
local
governments
have
an
incentive
or
if
you
will,
to
work
with
people
who
are
simply
wanting
fair
and
open
public
records
when
they
make
a
request
for
a
document.
They
don't
want
to
be
stonewalled
by
a
county
or
a
city,
and
that's
understandable,
most
local
governments
don't
Stonewall
and
and
they
understand
and
they
comply
with
it.
I
But
you've
got
a
group
of
attorneys
who
have
kind
of
figured
out
a
trick
that
they
can
run
over
to
a
city
count
of
City
Hall
and
talk
to
a
clerk
who
may
not
be
involved
in
public
records
at
all
and
say:
hey
I
want
the
following
five
thousand
pages
of
documents
that
are
scattered
across
every
division
and
I
want
it
by
noon
tomorrow
and
go
write
that
down.
Then
they'll
run
back
and
the
day
after
in
Oct,
my
gosh
I
asked
for
it
and
you
didn't
give
it
to
me
and
it'll.
I
Do
that
again
and
again
and
again
and
two
days
later,
they'll
file
suit
down
at
the
courthouse
and
say
government's
stonewalling
me
and
oh
by
the
way.
There's
an
attorney
fee
provision
here.
So
the
court
ultimately
says
we
are
entitled
to
the
documents.
There's
nothing
in
there
saying
win
right
so
that
it's
kind
of
a
gotcha.
So
then
the
attorney
gets
to
submitted
an
affidavit.
I
You
know
for
his
time,
and
that
has
to
be
paid
by
the
city,
and
the
city,
of
course,
then
has
to
exact
that
from
the
taxpayers
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
have
had
enough
of
that,
and
so
we
passed
the
bill
this
year.
That
said
timeout.
Yes,
there
should
be
a
a
reasonable
attorneys
fee
so
that
people
aren't
having
to
reach
into
their
own
pocket
to
force
the
government
to
comply.
But
it
shouldn't
be
a
cut
gotcha
scenario
so
that
bill
passed
now
there's
a
five
day
period.
They
have
to
give
reasonable
notice.
F
I
Here's
why
the
vacation
rental
issue,
just
like
the
uber
issue
and
a
lot
of
these
other
shared
economy
topics,
are
continuing
to
be
a
bigger
and
bigger
political
football,
because,
quite
frankly,
more
and
more
people
are
accessing
this
shared
economy
and
see
it
as
a
form
of
freedom.
People
don't
want
to
be
limited
to
just
using
a
taxi.
They
want
to
have
the
benefits
that
they
see
in
using
uber
need
using
lyft
so
too,
with
vacation
rentals.
They
don't
want
to
be
limited.
I
They
want
the
additional
options
of
being
able
to
go
online
and
choose
house
is
not
just
hotels
and
that
trend
is
not
going
to
go
away,
but
those
trends
are
in
conflict
with
the
way
that
we've
always
done
business
in
the
past
and
I.
Think
most
local
governments
would
be
fine
with
modifying
their
local
regulations
to
accommodate
those
types
of
market-based
trends.
The
problem
is:
is
that
you
get
some
small
communities.
Some
excuse
me
some
local
governments,
not
here,
but
in
other
parts
of
the
state
who
are
not
rational,
who
are
not
reasonable.
I
Who
simply
want
to
stop
that.
But
that's
like
stopping
the
tide,
and
so
you
you,
then
get
legislators
who
say
you
know
what
enough
enough
we're
going
to
pass
a
statewide
law
and
say
that
no
local
governments
can
ban
Buber
list
or
no
local
governments
can
ban
vacation
rentals.
So
it's
a
competing
interest
doing
it
on
the
state
level
like
that,
goes
too
far
doing
nothing.
They
see
as
not
going
far
enough,
but
the
vacation
rental
bill
did
not
make
it
through
this
year,
but
I'm
sure
it
will
get
filed
again
next
year.
I
Some
other
bills
of
particular
interest
and
then
I'll
take
some
questions.
Another
bill
that
was
filed
this
year
was
mandatory
body
cameras
for
law
enforcement
that
did
not
pass.
That
was
a
bill
that
that
the
League
of
Cities,
in
most
all
cities,
opposed
there
was
another
preemption
bill
that
would
have
preempted
to
state
control.
The
setting
of
election
cycles
for
local
elected
officials
in
here
in
Punta,
Gorda
and
most
municipalities
and
counties
in
our
neck
of
the
woods.
We'd
say:
what
do
you
really
need
that
you
know
we
can
set
our
own?
I
We
can
determine
when
we
want
to
have
our
elections
and
that's
true,
but
if
you
go
to
some
other
parts
of
the
state,
if
you
go
to
some
other
counties
where
there's
50
or
60
municipalities
and
they
structure
their
elections
in
ways
quite
frankly,
so
that
nobody
really
knows
when
they
are
supposed
to
go
to
the
polls,
they
feel
disenfranchised.
They
want
some
certainty.
Some
clarity
in
some
of
these
places
with
between
special
districts
and
municipalities
and
counties,
incorporated
non
incorporated
areas.
I
Somebody
may
have
you
know
the
five
or
six
or
seven
different
elections
that
affect
them
and,
if
they're
all
scattered
on
different
dates,
they
finally
get
to
where
they
can't
figure
out
when
they're
supposed
to
vote
and
they
don't
get
them
and
they
don't
vote
at
all.
So
there
was
a
measure
that
said:
look
simplify
that
take
from
one
of
four
time
periods
and
have
them
all,
or
at
least
on
one
of
those
four,
so
that
people
have
reasonable
notice.
I
But
from
our
perspective
it
looks
like
eroding
local
authority
like
a
lot
of
these
things
that
you
read
about
that
you
see
happening
in
Tallahassee,
they
make
sense
in
one
part
of
the
state.
They
may
not
make
sense
in
our
part
of
the
state.
So
just
a
little
background
on
that,
there
was
a
preemption
bill
that
passed
on
the
regulation
of
drones,
again,
not
a
big
problem
in
our
area,
but
in
some
parts
of
the
state
you
can
get
a
local
government.
I
That'll
ban
drones
outright,
and
you
say
well
that
goes
too
far
and
so
state
legislators
say,
look
we're
you
know.
We
can't
allow
you
to
simply
eliminate
people's
rights
to
use
this
new
technology.
You
know
to
prevent
the
real
estate
industry
and
the
engineering
fields
and
and
local
governments
themselves
to
use
this
technology.
I
So
there
was
a
preemption
bill
that
said
that
the
regulation
of
drones
is
a
is
preempted
to
state
authority,
although
those
local
ordinances
that
are
in
place
that
may
or
may
not
affect
drones
can
still
stay
in
place
and
can
still
be
enforced.
So,
for
example,
if
you
have
a
nuisance
ordinance,
most
of
us
I
think
know
what
a
nuisance
ordinance
you
don't
have
to
repeal
your
nuisance
ordinance
and
the
nuisance
ordinance
would
still
apply
to
a
drone.
I
If
somebody
is
using
that
technology
to
create
a
nuisance
or
to
violate
somebody's
privacy,
the
preemption
doesn't
mean
that
your
local
ordinance,
no
longer
is
enforceable,
means
that
you
can
enact
new
ordinances
specifically
tailored
to
drones.
I
mentioned
the
shared
economy
uber
and
lyft.
There
was
a
state
preemption
bill
for
uber
and
lyft.
That
essentially
said,
ride-sharing
is
going
to
be
regulated
on
the
state
level,
pre-empting
local
authority
over
that
and
then
they've
negotiated
a
whole
host
of
regulations
and
restrictions,
insurance
requirements,
background
checks
and
so
on.
I
For
those
ride-sharing
services,
local
governments
are
not
free
to
regulate
them.
You
again,
you
have
some
local
governments
who,
out
of
loyalty
to
the
lobbyists,
for
the
taxi
industry
or
whatever
will
just
ban
over,
and
then
you
get.
You
know
a
lot
of
residents
who
say
well,
I
want
that
right.
I
want
to
come
with
the
ability
to
choose
uber
so
that
preemption
bill
went
into
place.
The
compromise
at
the
end
was,
however,
that
airports
and
seaports
and
local
governments
can
still
charge
a
pickup
fee
so
long
as
the
pickup
fee
is
not
discriminatory.
I
In
other
words,
if
there's
a
pickup
fee
that
you
have
in
place,
that
applies
to
taxi
cabs
at
an
airport,
you
can
apply
that
same
pickup
fee
to
uber
but
which
can't
do
is
go
beyond
that
and
try
to
try
to
favor
taxis
over
uber.
So
that
was
another
bill.
Quick
recap:
on
recap:
on
the
budget
spending
a
three
billion
dollar
budget
this
year
the
governor
signed
most
of
the
major
pieces
of
it.
I
Last
thing
I
would
mention
is
constitutional
revision
Commission.
Some
of
you
may
have
heard
a
little
bit
about
that
or
read
about
it
in
the
paper.
A
bit
Florida
is
unique.
It's
the
only
state
in
the
country
that
has
a
provision
in
its
Constitution
that
says
that
every
20
years
we
will
impanel
a
commission
of
citizens
to
meet
and
determine
whether
there
are
provisions
in
our
state
constitution
that
should
be
amended
or
there's
new
provisions
that
should
be
added
in,
as
I
said,
that
occurs
every
20
years.
I
This
happens
to
me
of
the
year
so
that
37
member
Commission
was
impaneled
in
March.
They
started
having
their
meetings,
which
will
go
through
May
of
next
year
and
by
May
of
next
year.
They
will
then
tender
some
a
bunch
or
none
proposed
amendments
to
the
Constitution.
What's
also
unique
about
that
commission
is
that,
unlike
the
other
mechanisms
for
putting
a
ballot
initiative
out
there
for
the
voters
to
choose
for
constitutional
amendment
is
that
it
doesn't
go
through
the
court
system.
I
This
is
an
independent
body,
so
normally,
when
the
legislature
puts
something
on
the
ballot
by
adopting
a
joint
resolution
between
the
House
and
Senate,
that
then
goes
to
the
Supreme
Court
and
the
Supreme
Court
can
strike
it
down
or
let
it
go
onto
the
ballot
when
there
is
a
typical
petition
drive
like
with
well
like
with
the
Medical
Marijuana
thing
that
passed
recently,
where
you
have
to
collect
a
certain
number
of
signatures
in
Florida.
Now
it's
about
853,
753
thousand
signatures.
You
have
to
collect.
I
If
you
go
out
and
get
that
many
signatures,
you
can
also
get
on
the
ballot.
But
again
that
goes
also
goes
through
the
courts,
but
the
mechanism
through
this
see
our
constitutional
revision,
Commission
or
CRC,
goes
directly
onto
the
ballot,
and
so
that
37
member
group
has
been
meeting
since
March
they'll
continue
to
meet.
They
have
to
submit
to
the
Department
of
State
and
the
supervisors
of
elections
their
list
by
100
no
later
than
180
days
prior
to
the
next
election
cycle.
I
So
if
you
do
the
math,
it
comes
out
to
like
May
10th
of
next
year,
so
for
the
next
12
months,
you'll
see
the
CRC
traveling
around
the
state.
Their
goal
is
to
meet
twice
in
so
many
locations
that
every
Floridian
could
reach
it
within
an
hour
and
if
you
do
the
math
on
a
state
like
Florida,
that's
a
lot
of
meetings,
they're
going
to
do
every
one
of
those
and
then
do
every
one
of
those
again
and
they're
in
the
process
of
those
public
meeting.
I
People
come
for
to
the
podium
and
say
here's
what
I'd
like
to
see
added
removed
or
amended
in
our
state
constitution
and
by
the
way
affair.
There
I
go
to
everything
we
go
to
every
single
one
of
those
around
the
state
and
a
fair
number
of
people
come
forward
from
local
governments
and
speak
about
preemption
and
ask
that
the
constitutional
provisions
regarding
Home,
Rule,
Authority
and
preemption
at
a
minimum
not
be
weakened
but
potentially
be
strengthened.
So
with
that,
madam
mayor
I'll
take
any
questions
so.
I
So
I
think
the
CRA
bill
will
probably
come
back.
I
think
the
vacation
rental
bill
will
probably
come
back.
I
think
the
gun
bills,
the
you
know,
the
Second
Amendment
bills
will
come
back.
None
of
those
passed
this
year.
Those
were
essentially
pieces
of
legislation
that
would
expand
the
extent
to
which
people
are
allowed
to
utilize,
their
concealed
carry
permits
in
some
spaces
where
they
currently
aren't.
I
That's
one
theory,
of
course,
there's
competing
arguments
about
the
sanctity
of
certain
locations,
particularly
ones
where
emotions
run
high,
where
maybe
you
don't
want
access
to
two
firearms,
and
so
those
issues
are
very
hotly
debated.
There
were
several
of
those
bills
this
year
they
did
not
pass,
but
there's
strong
feelings
on
both
sides.
So
I
expect
those
bills
to
get
signed.
Again,
it's
going
to
be
to
get
filed
again.
What.
G
J
I
I,
don't
think
Home
Rule
goes
away,
but
I
do
think
that
looks,
as
you
know,
some
the
answer
to
some
of
those
questions
ultimately
forces
you
to
cross
the
Rubicon
of
ideology,
and
you
know
whether
you
believe
that
government
should
be
bigger
and
more
centralized
or
whether
you
think
government
should
be
more
dispersed
and
at
the
local
level.
Most
people
are
conflicted
in
that
they
see
the
value
in
both,
depending
on
the
circumstances,
it's
in
the
application
that
you
then
get
built
like
this
all
right.
I
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
trend
towards
eliminating
home
rule.
It
is
kind
of
ironic,
though
there's
a
certain
irony,
though,
that
this
you
know,
people
who
generally
are
are
more
tuned
to
the
you
know,
center
or
right
of
center,
who
tend
to
be
more
Federalists
in
what
less
government
and
less
centralization
of
government
are
now
filing
some
of
these
preemption
bills,
but
they're
doing
it.
But
the
common
theme
is
freedom,
its
liberty
and
they're
doing
it.
For
the
same
reason,
it's
just
a
different
result.
I
They
worry
that
at
the
local
level
there
are
some
municipalities
who
are
taking
away
people's
freedoms
and
they
want
to
stop
that.
I
can
remember
back
in
2000,
there
were
a
couple
of
cities
who
were
essentially,
you
know,
enacting
local
ordinances
that
all
but
eliminated
people's
right
to
keep
and
bear
arms,
and-
and
you
can
say
well,
you
can
file
suit
against
them
and
challenges
in
the
Second
Amendment,
the
US
Constitution,
but
that
takes
a
decade
and
millions
of
dollars.
In
the
mean
time,
those
people
were
denied
that
right
and
I
remember.
I
That
was
a
bill
that
I
voted
for
I,
co-sponsored
that
bill
to
to
not
allow
local
governments
to
do
that,
because
that's
something
that
is
fundamental,
its
inherent
in
it
and
that's
not
something
that
should
be
subject
to
local
control.
So
it's
a
long-winded
answer,
but
I,
don't
think
the
idea
or
the
goal
is
to
eliminate
local
control.
I
think
the
idea
and
the
goal
that
these
people
are
getting
at
is
to
prevent
bigger
government
wherever
it
is,
whether
it's
in
Washington
or
whether
it's
in
a
small
community
from
stripping
people
of
their
Liberty.
Okay,.
J
I
Think
that's
true
I
mean
you're
asking
me
in
my
opinion,
I.
Don't
think
that
I,
don't
think
he's,
but
I
don't
I've,
never
heard
him
say
that
I've
heard
him
speak
passionately
about
some
of
these
individual
issues,
but
it
seems
to
me
from
what
I
hear
from
him
that
it's
anecdotal
it's
based
upon
those
specific
issues.
I've
never
heard
him
give
a
speech
about
the
ideology
of
eliminating
local
control,
but
he
is,
he
does
have
have
a
a
there's,
a
libertarian
aspect
to
some
of
his
ideology
and
I.
I
Think
you
know
the
simple
truth
is
to
understand
whether
it's
a
jury
or
a
host
and
elected
officials
to
try
to
predict
what
they're
going
to
do.
Is
you
know
the
skill
is
to
figure
out
why
they're
doing
what
they're
doing
and
I
think
the?
Why
they're
doing
what
they're
doing
is
out
of
freedom
and
liberty
and
a
perception
that
informs
some
of
these
issues?
I
J
D
Well,
my
question
is
kind
of
related
to
that
in
some
regard
back
to
the
save
our
homes
and
the
increase,
who
wouldn't
want
to
lower
your
text
obligation.
On
the
other
hand,
I
was
at
a
meeting
and
I
observed
our
state
delegation
in
somewhat
of
a
cavalier
attitude
saying
and
we
we
passed
this
and
it's
going
to
save
you
tax
dollars
and
it's
like
whose
tax
dollars
it's
not
state
tax
dollars.
It's
local
tax
dollars
and
I
understand
that
you
know
there
may
be
some
local
governments
that
are
not
as
Rugel.
E
D
B
D
Were
at
the
meeting
Rachel,
you
said
you
saw
them,
and
so
it
was
it
just
really
rubbed
me
the
wrong
way
and
I.
Nobody
said
anything
at
the
time,
but
it
just
it
gets
back
into
the
look,
the
home
rule
and
the
local
the
level
issues,
and
you
know
we
can
change
the
way
we
do
things
here.
We've
avoided
having
assessments
like
the
plague
and
really
go
through
a
very
critical
process
to
determine
what
we're
going
to
do,
and
but
we
can
we
can.
We
can
find
ways
to
do
what
we
need
to
do.
E
D
I
There
are
parts
of
the
state
where
they
do
appear
at
least
to
translate.
So,
for
example,
in
the
middle
of
a
debate
like
that.
It's
pretty
easy
for
some
of
these
legislators,
not
maybe
from
our
delegation
but
other
legislators,
to
point
out
the
amount
of
waste
fraud
and
abuse
of
funding.
That's
taking
place
in
some
of
those
other
locations
that
make
a
tax
cut
or
a
tax
exemption
like
that,
almost
self-evident
the
key
to
control
that.
B
I
Times
when,
when
I
mean
this
is
politics
right
so
there's
times
when,
when
issue
when
there's
negotiation,
the
issues
are
paired
and-
and
you
know,
let's
you
know-
let's
not
be
too
naive.
Here
me
needs
everybody
is
an
elected
official
was
an
elected
official
and
so
they're
running
for
office,
and
and
so
some
some
of
these
issues
have
have
those
aspects,
as
well
as
part
of
their
platform.
I
What's
government,
less
taxes,
more
freedom
and
so
Florida
tends
to
be
it
generally,
a
conservative
state
when
it
comes
to
taxes,
one
of
the
most
conservatives
in
the
country.
It's
part
of
our
culture,
it's
in
our
zeitgeist
and
it's
and
it
builds
its
way
into
campaigns,
and
then
that
translates
into
policy
proposals
for
elected
officials
yeah.
I
B
I
think
the
Florida
League
and
people
like
you
that
you
know
we
got
to
this
point
of
having
a
lobbyist
because
we
really
needed
we
needed
it
and
the
Florida
League
and
the
cities
that
do
have
lobbyists
I
think
they
do
a
really
good
job.
I
was
talking
to
him
about
the
small
cell
Wireless.
You
know
the
AT&T
guy
came
here
to
visit
with
us.
Suddenly
he
appears
you
know,
and
they
did
a
great
job
lobbying
their
side
and
I
know
the
fleur-de-lis
did
get
some
concessions
and
did
get
some.
B
I
I
I
mean
there
does
become
a
point
in
time
with
some
legislation
where
it
is
clear
that
it's
going
to
pass
and
you
better
be
part
of
a
solution
for
it
or
or
you're
just
going
to
get
left
out
so,
but
the
municipalities
lobbyists
when
they
get
together
did
have
a
big
impact
in
a
year
that
had
a
historic
number
of
these
preemption
issues
come
up
a
couple.
Other
quick,
quick
topics
that
I'll
mention
as
to
our
delegation.
Our
delegation
performed
very
well
this
year,
even
though
they
were
largely
new
migrants.
I
Not
new
he's
very
representative
grant
very
experienced
knows
our
area
was
an
extraordinary
champion
for
our
our
community
and,
as
as
you
all
know,
he's
been
in
the
legislature
before
and
now
he's
starting
a
new
term,
which
is
which
is
wonderful.
The
other
two
members
of
our
delegation
are
seasoned
legislators,
but
hadn't
had
our
area
in
their
districts
before
so
Senator
Greg,
Stube
II,
who
had
a
pretty
strong
legislative
session
and
then
Senator
Denis
Grimsley,
who
has
some
had
some
connection
with
Punta
Gorda
at
least
had
some
familiarity
with
it.
I
Although
senator
Grimsley
has
announced
that
she's
running
for
statewide
office,
agriculture,
commissioner,
and
that
leaves
her
of
Senate
seat
open
and
our
good
friend,
representative
and
Albritton
has
announced
for
that,
I
believe
he's
the
only
one
who
has
announced
but,
as
you
know,
he's
a
huge
fan
of
protagoras
huge
fan
of
the
front
of
Gorda
ro
project,
and
fact
I
was
just
talking
with
Tom.
He
wanted
to
come
down
and
get
a
tour
and
update,
and
so
as
soon
as
there's
something
it's
a
worth,
showing
as
we
get
past
the
testing
in
the
boring
phase.
I
We're
going
to
bring
him
down,
but
our
delegation
is,
is
strong
and
is
only
going
to
get
stronger
as
we
go
forward
and
they
they
constantly
say
house
come
to
Gore
to
doing
what
can
we
do
for
Punta
Gorda
I
mean
they
I,
don't
have
to
ask
them.
They
asked
us
which
is
good,
and
so
your
political
capital.
You
know
you
all
have
heard
me
talk
before
about
you
know
the
effect
being
effective
in
in
Tallahassee
and
I
I.
I
I
described
it
in
the
with
the
metaphor
of
a
bank
account,
but
it's
a
political
capital
account.
There's
things
that
you
do,
that
make
a
deposit
of
political
capital
and
there's
things
that
you
do,
that
make
it
withdrawal
political
capital.
And
if
you
want
to
ask
for
things,
you
got
to
do
things
you
got
to
build
your
credibility.
You've
got
to
be
present,
so
you've
got
to
make
your
voice
known.
I
People
who,
deposit
more
than
they
withdraw,
have
have
a
nest
egg
and
they
can
then
go
forward
and
be
more
persuasive
and
I
would
say
that
your
political
capital,
the
way
you've
conducted
yourself,
the
way
you've
reached
out
to
members
the
way
you've
got
to
know
and
we
all
came
up
to
towel
a
seeing
the
way.
You've
gotten
to
know
some
of
these
members,
including
some
who
are
likely
going
to
be
our
next
senators,
has
continued
to
put
political
capital
into
your
account,
and
that's
good,
your
your
your
image
there.
I
C
One
issue
that
I
just
like
to
know
where
Tallahassee,
what
you
feel
the
the
tender
the
flavor
is,
is
basically
an
oil
enhanced
oil
recovery
in
fracking.
That's
an
issue
that
I
think
in
the
long
term
is
something
put.
What
the
core
needs
to
be
concerned
with,
and
our
neighbors
to
the
south
have
a
more
acute
situation.
It.
I
I
But
of
course,
there's
there's
a
you
know.
There
are
interests
who
care
an
awful
lot
about
the
other
side,
and
it's
not
just
big
oil
I
mean
a
lot
of
the
opposition
to
that
is
entities
that
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
they
preserve,
as
they
say
they
preserve
an
opportunity
in
the
future
for
energy
reliability.
I
haven't
really
spent
a
lot
of
time.
Looking
at
what
the
you
know,
the
extent
of
the
reserves
in
Florida,
but
it's
pretty
heavily
Lobby
bill
on
both
sides.
I
I,
don't
expect
that
to
go
away.
I
C
E
C
Know
out
of
the
country
you
know
on
a
fort,
it's
one
thing:
if
it's
going
to
be
in
Gilchrist
Park,
it's
a
whole
different
different
issue
and
I
want
to
be
sensitive,
that
we
don't
lose
that
type
of
home
rule
control
as
they
did
in
the
50s
in
California
they're.
Not
now
I
realize
that's
an
extreme,
but
and
then
it's
done
it
in
a
reasonable
and
safe
way.
Okay,
god
fracking
can
be
done
very,
very
well
safely.
C
E
I
Of
the
things
I
could
do,
mr.
vice
mayor's,
send
to
you,
perhaps
through
Howard,
a
copy
of
the
bill,
the
version
of
the
bill
that
was
filed
this
year
and
then
also
the
staff
analysis
of
that
bill.
That
goes
into
a
fair
amount
of
detail
of
what
you
know:
the
origin
of
each
one
of
the
provisions.
I
know
that
last
year,
representative
Ray
Rodriguez
who's
just
south
of
us,
and
it
was
a
majority
leader.
This
year
he
filed
a
bill.
That
sounds
an
awful
lot
like
the
framework
that
you're
describing
it
didn't
ban
fracking.
I
But
what
it
did
do
is
say
that
if
there
is
going
to
be
enhanced
oil
recovery,
there
has
to
be
some
standards
and
it
had
a
whole
list
of
standards.
I
could
send
that
and
you
could
look
at
that
and
then
let
me
know
if
that
bill
gets
filed
again,
which
I
suspected
it
will.
Maybe
that's
something
that
you'd
like
us
to
engage
on,
or
maybe
it's
even
something
that
you'd
want
to
come
up
to
Tallahassee
and
have
some
meetings
about.
Is.
G
One
thing
I
guess:
I
want
to
preface
my
colleagues
emphasis
that
Home
Rule
is
something
that
I
see
as
an
issue.
We
need
to
keep
it
a
forefront
only
because
in
this
particular
session
it
did
appear
that
next
election
cycles
possibilities
are
probably
governing
more
than
the
ideology
of
the
people,
and
so
it's
so
therefore,
like
kind
of
locusts,
I
guess
the
effect
on
look
on
local
municipalities
that
affects
them
is
legislation.
I
think
is
really
not
so
considered
this
year.
I
think
it
really
was
more
about
once
political
aspirations
and
I
still.
G
Therefore,
from
our
standpoint,
I
think
we
do
have
to
really
really
look
at
that
message.
Something
I
think
just
we
have
to
do,
because
this
year
seemed
like
there
wasn't
too
much
courage.
What
a
lot
of
legislators
too
in
terms
of
pushing
back
and
protecting
their
space
and
so
I
think
that's
why
we
have
to
protect
our
space
because
it
did
seem
like
you've.
Your
aspirations
were
really
what
was
governing
a
lot
of
what
was
happening
this
year.
G
I
Said
I
mean
it's
clearly
something
that
we
have
to
continue
to
monitor
and
track,
but
I
do
think
we
we
do
have
to
do
it
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
What
is
driving
speed
from
our
perspective,
the
issue
is
preemption
from
the
people
from
the
perspective
of
the
people
filing
the
bills.
It's
the
substance
of
that
individual
bill
enough
they're,
not
saying
hey
what
preemption
bill
can
I
file
they're
saying
what
bill
can
I
file
to
prevent
a
government
larger
small
from
stripping
somebody's
rights?
To
do
something?
I
And
then
you
got
to
have
the
debate
about
whether
government
should
be
in
that
space
but
taken
together.
The
pattern
looks
an
awful
lot
like
planned,
like
a
pre-emptive
trend,
so
councilman
you
make
a
good
point.
We
have
to
still
look
at
it
that
way.
We
have
to
look
at
it
the
other
way
as
well
and
pick
it
off
one.
At
a
time,
I
mean
the
uber
thing
probably
doesn't
bother
us
that
much
right,
but
but
a
bill
thing
that
we're
going
to
preempt
all
authority.
Would
it's
a
case-by-case?
I
There
were
some
preemption
bills
that
we
just
can't.
You
know
it's
hard
to
compromise
on
one
of
them
that
we
killed
this
year
was
the
preemption
bill
that
essentially
would
have
preempted
all
local
regulation
over
all
local
business
regulations
and
again
you'd
say
in
our
community.
Why
would
you
do
that?
I
You
know
we
don't
over,
regulate
and
ensure
there's
examples,
but
we
would
over
regulate
our
business,
but
there
are
parts
of
the
state
where
it's
about
it's
getting
pretty
hard
for
small
businesses
to
make
it
and
and
that's
what
causes
that
bill,
not
a
desire
for
preemption
a
desire
to
solve
that
problem.
Thank.
G
I
I
I
Thank
you
for
the
time.
I
hope
I
didn't
go
too
long
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
represent
you
through
joy.
It's
great
for
me
because
it's
my
home
area
and
I'm,
proud
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
as
I
said
before,
your
political
capital
is
high,
largely
because
of
the
way
you
conduct
yourselves.
You
have
a
great
reputation
because
you're
reasonable
you're
responsible
you
engage
when
you
need
to
engage
and
people
respect
you
thank.