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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 07-11-18 Part 2
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A
I'm
gonna
add
a
little
something
to
a
dead
horse.
I've
been
beating
for
a
while
I
pointed
out,
and
we've
discussed
that
in
2006
our
staff
was
about
per
thousand
population
was
about
20
percent
tighter
than
it
is
now,
and
that
was
cut
relative.
That
was
part
of
the
process
of
cutting
to
keep
our
city
moving
and
forward
because
of
the
2008
crisis.
A
That's
the
one
thing
that
this
staff
and
management
has
done
is
everybody
complains
about
that
in
government
and
it
ain't
here,
and
we
should
be
proud
of
that.
We
should
be
proud
of
our
staff
and
be
gratefully
every
day
to
that
situation.
But
that
means
is
that's
not
part
of
the
reserve
that
we
have
to
cut
in
a
situation
anymore.
That
was
a
hidden
reserve.
We
had,
we
don't
have
that.
So
what
we
see
is
what
we
got
and
that's
it
so
anyway,
the.
B
But
we've
stayed
with
the
with
the
flat
millage
you
know
and
to
for
various
reasons,
we've
done
that
but
I
just
it's
not
sustainable,
especially
with
the
with
with
the
decrease.
If
you're
talking
like
five
hundred
thousand,
that's
that's
a
pretty
big
hit
with
the
homestead,
so
I
don't
know
those
are
gonna,
be
I.
Can't.
B
C
E
E
E
E
Any
other
questions
on
the
budget.
There
is
one
item
I
wanted
to
bring
up:
it's
not
related
to
fiscal
year,
19
budget,
it's
more
about
the
well!
It
is
it's
the
notified
by
your
procurement
department
that
they
have
the
company
they
use
for
piggybacking
to
purchase
the
PD
vehicles.
The
police
vehicles
has
notified
them
that
they
need
orders
in
for
the
2019
Ford
vehicles
by
the
end
of
August.
We
have
them
budgeted
for
fiscal
year.
E
Nineteen
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
sales
tax
and
ninety
six
thousand
dollars
from
the
general
fund
and
we're
just
asking
council
permission
to
go
ahead
and
issue
that
purchase
order,
move
the
budget
up
to
fiscal
year
18.
So
we
could
issue
that
purchase
order
at
the
end
of
August.
That
vehicles
will
not
come
in
before
October
1st,
and
so
the
payment
will
be
made
in
the
new
fiscal
year,
but
delaying
would
cause
the
2024
vehicles
wanting
to
begin
construction
until
2,
June,
2019
and
the
pricing
will
go
up
so
the
the
contract.
B
Okay,
would
that
be
fine,
so
we
could.
What
do
we
need
to
do?
Get
the
city
manager
approval
to
yeah.
A
A
E
Okay,
so
this
resolution
recommends
a
proposed
millage
rate
of
three
point:
one:
nine,
six,
nine
mills,
the
calculated
rollback
rate
is
three
point:
zero,
three,
six:
zero
making
the
proposed
military
five
point:
three
percent
over
the
rollback
rate.
This
resolution
also
since
sets
the
tentative
millage
rate
and
proposed
budget
public
hearing
for
September
5th
2018
at
5:01
p.m.
here
in
the
city,
council
chambers.
H
H
It
is
updated,
weekly
posted
on
the
city's
website
under
the
weekly
communications,
typically
on
Thursdays.
The
reason
that
the
quarterly
report
is
coming
to
council
is
that
sometimes
these
initiatives,
our
staff,
don't
act
or
initiatives
or
projects
don't
have
to
actually
have
to
come
back
before
the
council,
so
they
just
wanted
an
update
as
we
go
along.
So,
as
I
said,
it's
posted
on
the
website
weekly
at
the
end
of
the
action
register
are
completed
items
for
the
calendar
year.
We
use
that
to
keep
track
for
strategic
planning
purposes.
H
I'm
just
gonna
run
through
some
of
the
highlights.
We're
trying
to
get
it
up.
So
you
folks
can
see
on
the
screen
what
it
is
we.
It
was
kind
of
funny
this.
This
document,
the
city
manager,
updated
it
through
the
quarter,
June
30th
before
you
left
on
vacation
and
since
then,
we've
updated
it.
Two
more
times
so
it's
a
fluid
document.
It's
things
are
always
happening.
H
We've
already
as
part
of
the
budget.
We
now
have
direction
on
the
security
facility
enhancements,
we'll
move
forth
with
that
the
historic
district
lighting
inventory
the
solicitation
closed.
We
had
three
firms
they
conducted
interviews
and
the
ranked
bidders
will
be
negotiating
with
the
procurement
division
on
price.
H
I
B
F
A
A
H
F
I
think
the
the
negotiation
has
to
happen
through
Howard's
office
since
that's
where
it
originated
from
and
Peace
River
Wildlife
Center
is
also
in
communication
with
Howard's
office.
All
the
time,
so
I
think
that
it
should
continue
to
go
through
him
and
rather
rather
than
any
of
us,
because
I
think
that
he
has
been
accountable
to
Howard
and
theirs,
and
the
staff
upstairs
so
I
just
I
just
think.
We
have
to
give
him
that
last
opportunity
to
do
something
and
but
yeah,
let's
put
a
time,
sensitive
deadline
on.
A
B
F
Other
thing
is,
it
is
very
time-sensitive
because
the
Wildlife
Center
has
said
many
times.
If
it
can't
happen
immediately
at
the
end
of
season
next
year,
they
can't
do
it
for
another
whole
year
after
that,
so
right,
you
know
they
have
to
be
able
to
be
open
for
full
season
and
that's
when
their
prime
income
time
is
so.
I
H
Review
of
options
for
parking
in
the
historic
district
that
came
after
the
restaurant
over
here
and
the
Gilchrist
Park
parking
at
this
time
that
projects
kind
of
on
hold
we're
going
to
based
on
councils
direction.
Finish
the
read
of
parking,
the
options
that
you
selected
for
that
and
then
we'll
see.
If
council
wants
us
to
still
go
back
and
review
that
at
a
later
date.
But
that
will
be
at
an
out
date.
So
I'll
be
moving
that,
because.
B
We
also
heard
at
the
business
workshop
about
the
downtown
we
heard
about
the
that
there
are
people
that
are
still
parking
in
the
street
parking
and
going
to
work
all
day,
and
you
know
not
using
those
spaces
for
retail
or
you
know,
restaurant
visitors.
So
we
really
do
need
to
discuss
that
even
further,
because
it
was
brought
up
that
we
used
to
have
a
two
hour
or
whatever
the
timeframe
was,
and
we
used
to
enforce
it.
And
so
we
did
hear
that
at
the
workshop.
Yes,
but.
D
Okay
yeah,
it
is,
but
what
this
discussion
was
about
was
not.
It
was
the
historic
district
west
of
Harvey
Street.
It
was
that
the
National
Historic
Registry
historic
district.
It
was
about
that
because
it
was
the
that's
what
the
council
conversation
was
about.
It
wasn't
about
the
historic
district
was
in
the
city
center.
So
maybe
you
know,
city
center
parking
is
another
issue
which.
D
There
are
two
very
different
things,
so
I
think
in
my
view,
one
was
more
as
it
related
to
parking
coming
off
of
the
the
Gilchrist
Park
and
the
impact
on
historic
homes,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
it
was
really
the
discussion
was
let's
wait
and
finish
finish
all
the
parking
along
Retta
Esplanade
and
then
at
that
point
in
time,
see
how
the
parking
flow
is
and
see
what
impacts
there
might
be
on
the
streets
in
the
in
the
historic
district.
That's
a
different
conversation
than
parking.
F
Well-
and
the
first
conversation
that
you
just
referred
to
was
also
with
regard
to
allowing
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street
on
the
downtown
historic
streets
where
the
neighborhoods
it
yeah.
It
was
part
of
it
because
they
were.
People
were
complaining
that
there
were
people
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street,
and
it
made
it
very
difficult
for
cars
to
transfer
some
on
the
road,
so
that
that
was
something
that
we
had
talked
about.
Whether
we
were
going
to
take
another
look.
I
I
think
I
mean
I
think
there
is
something
to
be
gained
with
the
holistic
conversation
about
the
flow
itself.
I
mean
because
that's
one
of
our
problems,
I
think,
is
that
we
plan
based
on
little
pockets
as
opposed
to
a
whole
system
and
I
think
it
is
worthy
of
looking
at
and
we're
gonna
have
a
conversation
on
parking.
We
should
have
a
conversation
on
parking
I
think
it's
worthy
of
discussion,
master.
F
A
A
H
All
right,
Medical,
Marijuana,
ordinance
that'll
be
coming
before
Council
and
second
meeting
in
September
development
of
an
interstate
exchange.
Zoning
classification,
urban
design
staff
has
been
working
on
that.
That's
to
address
the
area
out
by
Jones
loop,
the
Wal
Mart,
the
newly
annexed
areas
and
I
believe
is
the
public
hearing
in
August
or
they'll,
bring
it
out
the
discussion
enough
they'll
bring
it
back
as
a
discussion
at
the
August.
H
Probably
the
August
22nd
meeting
staff
I
am
working
on
the
chapter
six
rewrite
after
many
years,
hoping
to
have
that
to
the
advisory
boards
when
they
meet
in
August.
In
September,
Darrell
Court
sent
a
parking
signage
after
the
CRA
s,
Direction
staff
proceeded,
there
had
to
be
some
adjustments
and,
as
the
planning
number
came
back,
around
16,000
urban
design
will
now
work
with
procurement
on
how
to
get
those
services
was.
H
And
we
discussed
the
renovations
and
we
now
have
staff
direction
on
the
renovation
to
refresh
from
City
Hall
we'll
do
that
bicycle
capital
improvements
plan
that
one
was
in
a
pending
status.
The
four
pilot
projects
were
never
proceeded
with.
We
are
now
waiting.
The
county
of
the
county
is
doing
a
countywide
bicycle
plan.
We
believe
it
will
be
done
by
the
end
of
this
calendar
year
and
then
staff
will
be
able
to
take
a
look
and
see
what
they're
doing
in
the
county
and
what
you
know
the
city
may
do.
H
C
H
Gonna
add
approximately
41
parking
spaces
over
bike
reconfiguring
the
roundabouts
strategic
plan,
we've
requested
inputs
been
in
the
weekly
report.
We've
sent
it
out
to
stakeholders
requesting
that
back
public
input
back
by
back
by
the
end
of
July,
so
City
Council
can
consider
that
in
the
August
September
timeframe
approving
the
case.
B
H
B
C
H
H
Burn
stalls
undergrounding-
that's
just
waiting
for
the
FPL
which
they
they're,
hoping
to
have
the
the
engineers
study
completed
at
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
or
early
2019,
so
that
the
seasonal
residents
will
be
back
when
we
want
to
hold
meeting
informational
education
meetings
on
that.
What
the
process
is
and
and
the
project
itself.
H
Gilchrist
Park
restrooms,
both
the
pavilions
in
the
playground.
We
now
have
the
confirmed
lamar's
for
both
projects
for
the
pavilion
bath
bathrooms
near
the
pavilion
the
90%
design
is
under
review
by
staff
and
the
playground.
We
actually
have
the
contractor
mobilized
last
week.
They
were
doing
some
coordination
of
the
electric
and
stuff
needed
so
that
we
should
see
that
breaking
ground
shortly.
Fair
share
impact
fee
study
probably
saw
in
the
newspaper
the
county's
changes.
The
city
did
have
a
is
in
the
process.
H
We
have
a
consultant
who's
met
with
staff
to
go
over
projects
possible
future
projects.
Our
consultant
will
be
looking
at
bringing
back
some
of
the
impact
fees
that
we
suspended
during
the
economic
downturn.
Looking
at
new
alternatives
and
the
one
thing
about
the
impact
fees,
it
is
only
related
to
infrastructure
structure
related
to
new
growth,
so
it
doesn't
fund
positions
or
stuff
like
that,
so
they're
still
working
on
information
gathering.
H
Boca
Grande
drainage
improvements,
recently
staff
identified
several
lots
that
possibly
need
to
be
acquired
to
be
used
as
pond
for
ponds.
Some
of
the
things
that
they've
been
talking
about
is
the
council
approved
the
East
Virginia
purchase
of
the
East
Virginia
property
from
the
county.
I,
don't
remember
the
actual
lot
number
we're
brainstorming
things.
You
know
if
that
could
be
traded.
Some
of
the
Lots
we
have
to
require
our
habitat
own
now
trading
and
that
kind
of
stuff
too,
to
figure
out
how
we
can
get
those
Lots
that
would
are
going
to
be
needed
for.
B
H
H
H
H
H
C
E
B
E
G
How
quickly
we're
able
to
work
through
the
agenda
when
Howard's,
not
I,
am
leaving
after
the
meeting
to
head
to
our
annual
municipal
attorneys
conference.
That
is
part
of
the
Florida
League
of
Cities
and
fill
my
head
with
all
kinds
of
great
new
information
to
bring
back
to
keep
us
calling
so
I'll
be
gone
through
the
rest
of
the
week.
G
J
F
G
B
Under
policy
and
legislation,
I
have
an
item
that
I
brought
forth
that,
hopefully
you
had
time
to
read
through
it's
been
suggested
and
we're
listening
to
our
citizens
at
the
time
of
the
meeting
should
be
explored
and
why
are
they
at
9:00
a.m.
every
first
and
third
Wednesday,
because
it
was
reported
that
that
was
part
of
the
Charter?
So
I
was
gonna.
Let
Karen
kind
of
give
a
historical
overview
on
what's
in
the
Charter
and
what's
not.
J
It's
actually
not
addressed
in
the
Charter,
but
I
can
give
you
a
brief
history
of
of
what
council
has
done
with
with
the
meetings
and
the
meeting
dates
and
times
so
prior
to
June
of
1926
council
meetings
were
actually
had
held
at
7
o'clock
p.m.
then
in
June
of
1926.
There
was
a
resolution
adopted
changing
the
meeting
time
to
3
o'clock
in
the
afternoon.
J
It
was
addressed
many
years
later
in
1975,
where
council
changed
the
meeting
time
to
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning,
and
the
dates
were
set
at
the
first
and
third
Wednesday
of
the
month
in
1998
that
the
subject
came
up
and
Council
adopted
a
resolution
just
to
temporarily
changed
a
second
meeting
of
the
month
to
an
evening
meeting,
so
that
it
was
kind
of
a
test,
a
trial
to
see
how
that
worked
out.
It
didn't
even
last
the
end.
J
One
person
said
well
this:
they
did
it
during
the
months
of
July
through
October,
so
one
council
member
felt
that
perhaps
it
was
because
a
lot
of
people
you
know
were
up
north.
But
the
comment
was
that,
regardless
of
whether
those
people
were
up
north
or
down
here
since
they're
retired,
it
still
wouldn't
matter
for
those,
but
that
particular
group
they
would
still
attend.
J
You
know
the
morning
meetings
so
after
that
that
was
again
August
of
1998,
and
we
have
found
no
official
discussion
agenda
item
or
anything
else
where
the
topic
was
brought
up
and
actually
addressed
other
than
you
know,
the
occasional
workshop
or
the
town
hall
meeting
that
was
held
at
a
different
time
of
day.
There's
no
discussion
of
the
regularly
scheduled
monthly
meetings
to
be
changed
to
anything
other
than
what
we
have
right
now.
Okay,.
B
J
B
We
asked
the
questions
and
you
got
the
responses
there.
So
basically,
it's
like
really
really
all
over
the
place
for
different
different
cities
like
fort
city
of
fort
myers.
They
start
Monday,
first
and
third
Mondays
at
4:30,
Cape
Coral
they
meet
in
the
afternoon
as
well.
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
what
time
4:30
again
on
Monday,
so
city
of
Cape,
Coral
and
city
of
Fort
Myers
are
both
4:30
Monday
meetings.
I
just
brought
this
for
a
discussion
to
see
what
your
temperature
was.
I
did
have
two
ideas.
B
And,
yes,
it
would
be
another
meeting.
But
my
idea
of
what
this
workshop
would
be
and
from
the
feedback
that
I've
had
with
the
people
that
suggested
it
to
me
is
that
it
would
be
the
second
Wednesday
of
the
month
and
it
would
be
an
afternoon
whatever
time
for
4:30
5
o'clock.
It
would
start
and
I
know
the
county
has
workshops
we've
been
to
those
during
the
library
discussion,
totally
I'm
talking
about
totally
different
format
than
what
they
do.
I
was
thinking
that
our
workshops
could
be
discussion,
only
items,
no
action
to
be
taken.
B
You
know
in
here
to
tell
us
what
how
we
could
go
about,
because
you
know
it
got
so
convoluted
that
those
discussions
about
so
long
and
so
convoluted
that
we
just
you,
know
kind
of
threw
our
hands
up
and
went
the
other
route
to
institute
the
drainage
program.
So
that
would
could
be
something
that
we
could
explore
in
that
vein.
So
those
are
my
two
ideas
and
I
would
like
to
hear
from
yes,
jaha
I.
I
Like
the
first
idea,
I
I
think
especially
from
evidence
from
the
business
meeting
that
we
have
a
lot
of
the
population
that
we
neglect
seeing
during
the
day,
because
they
have
to
work
and
I.
Think
that
having
it
one
morning
meeting
one
afternoon
meeting
a
month,
I
think
would
give
the
population
a
very
good
opportunity
to
participate
in
our
process.
I
just
think
would
be
a
good
idea.
C
A
A
I
realized
that
we
have
a
number
of
different
businesses,
but
we
have,
it
seems
to
me
a
large
portion
of
businesses
that
our
restaurants
are
here
to
tourism
that
are
open
in
the
afternoons
in
the
evenings
and
it's
the
morning
that
they
might
actually
have
a
better
chance
to
come.
I'm,
not
sure,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
that
could
be
the
case
for
those
types
of
businesses
from
talking
to
them.
They.
D
You
know
I,
listen
to
what
Karen
said
about
the
council,
trying
it
a
number
of
years
ago,
almost
20
years
ago
and
I
know
recently
a
burnt
store
aisles,
Association
I
received
feedback
from
residents
that
work
that
they
would
like
to
attend
the
board
meetings,
so
their
board
decided.
Let's
have
our
monthly
board
meetings
in
the
evening,
and
so
they
they
scheduled
the
meetings
to
be
in
the
evening
and
published
that
in
the
community
and
nobody
came
and
it
was,
and
so
they
have
said
well,
it's
the
same
exactly
the
same
thing.
D
It's
the
same
people
showing
up
in
fact
they
actually
had
more
people
show
up
at
the
morning
board
meetings
than
they
did
the
board
meetings.
So
after
about
three
months,
they
said
this
is
not
serving
our
keep
us
or
they
went
back
to
the
morning.
Meetings.
I'm
certainly
willing
to
try
something,
but
I
would
only
say
on
a
temporary
basis
to
give
people
because
I
agree.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
listening
and
hearing.
D
F
F
But
but
just
as
importantly,
the
staff
would
be
required
to
be
accountable
to
the
city
for
another
five
or
six
hours
twice
a
month
and
I
think
that's
a
ridiculous
request
on
a
selfish
side.
My
evenings
are
my
time
to
do
other
things
and
I
have
I,
have
commitments
that
I
have
ongoing
and
all
different
evenings
of
the
week
for
different
reasons,
whether
it
be
meetings
or
personal
commitments
and
I
mean
that
wasn't
that
wasn't
the
what
I
bought
into
when
I
took
this
job,
not
that
I
wouldn't
attend
them.
F
I
mean
I'm,
not
saying
I
wouldn't
come
to
the
meetings,
but
the
point
is
I
think
what
we
have
is
working.
There's
very
few
people
that
have
complained.
I've
talked
to
many
of
the
business
owners
in
the
downtown
community
and
I
have
not
heard
the
same
thing.
You're
hearing
so
I
can't
agree
that
that's
a
problem
and
we
had
one
citizen
come
up
and
and
yell
at
us
for
three
weeks
ago,
and
and
this
is
all
resulted
from
that
and.
B
I've
heard
from
several
several
others,
especially
the
ones
that
attended
the
business
workshop
and,
of
course,
I
discussed
the
employee
issue
with
Howard
and
he
said
the
exempt
employees
you
know
they're
exempt.
So
if,
if
they
have
to
shift
their
day,
there's
no
problem
with
that
I
mean
we
could
definitely
work
out
the
employee
issues.
So
it's
not
a
burden
on
them
so
to
say,
and
it
is
one
day
a
month.
F
I
We
have
our
third
district
home
Association
meetings
at
six,
eight
six
pm
and
they're
quite
well
attended
and
again
these
are
many
of
the
people
who
would
attend
the
evening.
I
mean
again,
these
are
people
that
can
attend
during
the
day
because
they
have
to
work
and
I
do
think.
If
we
really
are
gonna,
be
you
know,
listen
to
the
voice
of
the
people.
We
have
to
actually
let
the
people
speak
to
us.
I
always.
F
A
Be
emini
able,
because
I
think
would
also
be
an
opportunity
for
us
if
we
would
work
in
our
schedule
to
have
a
workshop
a
month
that
would
cover
the
the
items
that
are
probably
going
to
be
on
the
agenda
for
a
two
month
prior,
so
that
that
that
was
citizens
that
our
table
would
ease.
We
would
be
able
to
get
a
chance
to
hear
their
wisdom
in
a
collective
manner
without
overburden
and
staff
and
so
forth.
A
You
know
to
give
opportunity
and
then
try
it
and
if
they
don't
show
up,
but
well
then
fine,
but
if
they
do
show
up
that's
even
better,
because
then
that
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
hear
them
face-to-face
in
the
and
see
see
them
and
listen
to
them
and
give
them
that
opportunity
to
speak
to
us
directly.
Collectively
it
gets
convoluted
when
they
have
to
speak
to
us
independently,
because
we
don't
get
together
very
often
to
being
able
to
hear
collectively
and
you
I
think
can
run
the
risk
like
they
say.
A
B
B
G
A
A
I
To
be
workshops
will
be
redundant
and
we
only
if
we're
gonna
do
it.
We
might
as
well
just
do
a
council
meeting
at
night,
then
I
would
say
so
we're
not
wasting
their
time,
because
we
would
we
basically
we'd,
have
to
come
back
to
the
same
issue.
I
mean
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
participate
in
luxury
visual
hearing.
If
we
didn't
have
it
where
they
can
attend
it.
So.
D
Not
sure
that
that
I
would
agree
with
that,
jaha
I
think
there
are
often
many
times
that
there
are
things
brought
up.
The
staff
brings
things
up
on
our
agenda.
They
just
want
to
get
our
the
temperature.
They
just
want
to
find
out
what
what
does
counsel
think
about
this,
and
that
happens
all
the
time
and
those
are
things
that
could
be
in
a
workshop,
but.
D
B
And
I
think
well,
if
the
workshop,
if
there
is
consensus
to
do
the
workshop,
it
gives
us
another
opportunity
from
what
you
were
saying
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
to
jaha
to
educate
people
on
yes,
and
we
could
have
the
same
thing
that
we
have
here
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
is
three
minutes
you
can
say
whatever
you
want
about,
whatever
you
want
right,
it's
not
a
given.
Take
it's
not
a
conversation.
B
It's
a
public
comment
where,
if
there
are
issues
that
are
quasi-judicial,
then
we
have
an
op
another
opportunity
to
explain
to
people
that
that's
not
gonna
be
discussed
here
tonight,
because
it
is
a
you
know,
a
quasi-judicial
matter
and
it
will
come
on
the
date
and
time
and
that's
where
you
have
to
come
testify
or
you
know,
be
part
of
the
public
hearing
at
that
time.
But.
A
C
A
G
B
C
B
G
F
F
B
D
E
I
B
F
B
I
B
Understand
it
cuz,
even
though
even
the
other
feedback
that
I
heard
from
a
couple
of
people
more
than
a
couple
about
the
business
workshop
was
like.
Well,
we
didn't
have
anything
prepared
and
we
really
didn't.
You
know
we
liked
what
we
heard
from
the
other
people
that
spoke.
So
we
didn't
get
up
there
to
talk,
and
we
really
didn't
know
what
we
were
supposed
to
say
and
how
it
was
gonna.
Be
you.
B
B
J
B
D
B
A
Have
a
non-negotiable
commitment
on
the
on
the
meeting
of
the
19th,
that
is
Yom
Kippur,
which
is
my
holiest
day
of
the
year,
and
if
council
would
be
able
to
consider,
because
I
would
like
to
participate
in
the
meeting
too
moving
it
either
to
Monday,
Tuesday
or
Thursday
I.
Think
with
the
acceptable
dates
care,
if
you
would
be
able
to
accommodate
me,
would
be
greatly
appreciated
if
you
have
other
commitments.
I
certainly
do
understand
that
it's
my
understand.
Some
other
consoles
have
also
done
the
same
for
for
their
their
council.
Persons
too.
A
D
B
B
D
I
B
B
B
B
B
F
B
H
B
H
A
D
May
not
get
to
be
at
the
ribbon-cutting
for
the
tribute
because
I'm
meeting
with
some
of
the
relatives
some
of
this
annexation
discussion,
that's
going
on
I've
got
some
an
annexation
discussion
going
on
with
a
property
owner
and
developer
that
morning
at
nine
o'clock.
So
we'll
see
how
long
things
go
actually
9:45.
So
Gary.
D
I
I
They
would
then
be
able
to
transition
into
the
city
manager
position,
knowing
how
it's
done,
but
I
think
that,
since
we
launched
through
this
I
think
it
would
only
really
be
prudent
to
do
so
that
it
would
be
irresponsible
for
us
not
to
do
this.
I
think
this
is
the
perfect
time
this
person
would
be
introduced
to
the
city
in
a
very
robust
manner.
They'd
be
able
to
hear
from
all
the
citizens
through
the
Charette
process
and
I
just
think
it's
a
perfect
opportunity
to
do
this.
I
think
it's
important.
We
do
that
so.
I
Because
I
think
I
mean
that's
sweet,
we
have
to
have
this
I
mean
there's
there's
we
we
have
to
have
stable
city
leadership,
especially
now
that
we're
having
this
real
view
of
the
city,
especially
with
the
city
now
being
in
this
very
new
stage.
This
is
the
first
time
the
city
I
say,
is
not
directing
the
economy
of
the
county,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
forces,
and
so
we
need
to
have
someone
who's
gonna,
be
in
this
seat.
Who's
gonna
be
longer
than
we
all
are
here
and
I.
C
A
Think
jaha
makes
a
very
good
point.
I
just
would
like
to
say
for
discussion.
There
could
be
an
alternative
way
to
do
that,
and
that
would
be
is
to
consciously
and
intentionally
cross
train
all
of
our
department
heads
for
potentially
taking
over
the
position.
I
think
Chris
has
done
a
very
good
job
today,
by
the
way,
a.
A
B
I,
don't
disagree
with
that,
but
don't
department
heads
have
they're
already
doing
a
lot
of
stuff.
You
know.
Hopefully
Kristin
does
become
our
finance
director,
so
she's.
You
know
we're
lucky
to
have
that
going
for
us,
but
I
see
what
what
you're
saying
but
I,
also
see
what
jaha
saying
and
in
in
my
conversations
at
the
league,
the
city
manager
hirings
are
getting
more
competitive
and
we've
seen
just
locally
and.
A
I'm
not
arguing
it
I'm,
just
throwing
this
up
as
an
alternative.
Now,
to
my
point,
Kirsten,
don't
throw
anything
at
me,
you're,
absolutely
right.
They
do
have
a
lot
going
on.
That's
also
one
one
way
to
find
out
who
has
the
ability
to
juggle
their
time
to
be
able
to
do
the
cross-training
at
the
same
time
that
they
do
their
very
important
duties?
It's
on
a
way
to
evaluate
people
under
pressure
at
that
point
in
time
too,
so
there's
a
pro
and
a
con
of
it.
A
A
There
might
be
advantage
from
that
perspective
too.
I
think
both
issues
should
be
discussed
there
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
that
we
again
should
have
a
plan
which
is
we
really
where
I'm
agreeing
with
jaha
is?
We
should
have
a
consensus
of
a
plan
of
transitioning
Howard
out
in
the
future
because
he
is
under
contract.
He's
not
gonna,
be
here
for
10
or
15
years.
So.
D
Would
like
to
say
that
Nets
bring
it
back
as
a
discussion
item
in
our
first
workshop.
I
think
I
understand
the
notion
and
I
think
a
transition
plan
is
an
important
one.
Having
observed
the
whole,
such
as
the
smashed
master
plan,
the
first
time,
Howard
was
not
here
when
it
was
actually
when
that
planning
was
going
on
and
came
in
at
the
conclusion
of
that
process.
I,
don't
think
that
hindered
him
at
all.
I
think
in
fact,
I
think
it.
D
It
is,
would
be
an
attraction
for
a
for
us
to
be
able
to
hire
someone
as
a
city
manager
that
the
community
is
proactive
and
we've
been
doing
this
so
I
think
that
that
is
a
certainly
a
something
that
is
a
positive
on
our
part.
Whether
or
not
it's
in
you
know
at
what
point,
but
I
think
it's
good
to
have
the
discussion
see.
I
I
think
that
was
the
problem
is
that
we
didn't
implement
the
master
plan
we
created
it
before,
but
I
think
one
way
to
October
is
too
late.
I
think
we
should
have
someone
hired
to
be
here
when
we're
doing
the
master
planning
process,
because
they
they
would
basically
be
groomed
in
the
process
of
implementing
it
because
I
think
that's
that's
the
problems
we
we
had
this
idea,
but
the
city
isn't
follow
up.
I.
Think
someone
needs
to
really
be
in
this
process
and
I
think
they
also
someone
who
needs
to
be
dead.