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C
C
D
D
Goal
was
to
start
construction
at
stately
home
park
to
redesign
and
the
revitalization
of
the
park
somewhere
around
the
April
May
2009
tune
timeframe.
Why?
Then,
because
that
will
be
the
time
when
the
height
of
the
season
is
over,
for
the
Peace
River
Wildlife
Center
to
raise
dollars
to
help
their
operations.
D
We've
had
discussions
with
our
volunteer
engineering,
firm
Kirsten
and
the
latest
conversation
was
he's
a
team
player
and
if
we
feel
we
need
to
move
on
because
he
has
a
lot
of
other
commitments
to
finish
the
design
and
get
some
biddable
documents
he's
willing
to
do
whatever
City
Council
would
like
to
do
at
this
point.
So,
yes,.
E
On
that
regard,
just
knowing
that
the
project
had
to
get
done,
I
talked
with
Jeff
Wyler
and
he
actually
offered
that
he
would
like
to
get
he's
stand-in
as
well,
and
then
he
could
actually
perform
the
work
he's
willing
to
do
that.
He.
A
Well,
I'm
worked
to
this
point
and
we
really
needed
60%
design
plans
today
to
in
order
to
meet
that
schedule
that
we
have,
and
we
could
I
mean
we
want
to
work
in
conjunction
with
a
piece
River
Wildlife
Center.
So
if,
if
that's
what
we
need
to
do
that
I'm
fine
with
that
too
appreciate
the
work,
that's
been
done
up
until
this
point.
I
do
really
appreciate
it,
but
we
need
to.
A
G
Good
morning
James
Hurston
mmm-hmm,
yes,
I
can
I
can
do
anything.
The
City
Council
directs
me
to
do,
but
if
somebody
is
talking
to
you
about
a
No
Fee
bid,
you
know
please
please
be
aware
that
it
does
include
a
new
bathroom
and
it
does
include
the
extension
of
a
water
line
all
the
way
down
Ponce
de
Leon
Boulevard,
which
wasn't
really
you
know
conceived
at
the
time.
We
were
just
designing
the
park.
G
G
Have
probably
had
six
or
seven
DRC
design
studio
meetings
to
develop
the
plans?
I've
looked
I've
looked
at
where
we're
at
with
the
plans
and
if
I
was
advising
a
developer.
This
is
this
is
what
I
would
tell
a
developer
that
we
could
be
in
for
final
DRC
by
September,
30th
and
I.
Think
at
that
point
you
could
award
a
contract
sometime
in
October
and
look
at
the
bids
between
November
and
December
and
I.
Think
at
that
point
you
know
you
would
have
13
months
from
you
know,
January
to
December,
basically
to
construct
the
project.
H
H
G
G
A
A
G
G
My
experience
when
you
transfer
engineering
responsibilities,
the
the
new
the
new
engineering
firm,
is
an
isn't
comfortable
with
what
what
is
available.
You
know
they.
Don't
they
don't
virtually
like
the
way
the
electronics
were
set
up.
They
don't
like
the
layering
system,
they
don't
like
the
control
and
it's
typically
a
you
know
not
a
very,
very
smooth
transition.
I
mean
personally,
that's
just
my
experience
over
the
last
35
years,
but
I
would
do
anything.
I
would
do
anything
to
help
help
the
city.
G
You
know,
there's
a
big
difference
between
putting
together
what
we've
done
here
for
the
park
on
a
community
type
spirit
as
compared
to
well
I
was
under
the
impression
that
Wyler
was,
you
know,
providing
a
proposal
for
the
work.
That's
first
time,
I've
heard
yeah
that
he
would
do
it
free
status,
yeah.
A
F
D
D
F
D
D
J
Marian
pace
procurement
manager
for
the
record,
mr.
Hurston
was
also
volunteer,
which
at
that
time
we
were
negotiating
a
contract
with
CPH
and
we
decided
to
go
with
the
volunteer
firm.
So
we
would
basically
treat
Wyler
engineering
as
on
the
same
basis
and
go
through
an
agreement
that
problem
with
that
process.
So.
F
G
F
B
B
A
G
A
I
K
We
met
with
various
representatives
from
the
city,
Public
Works
utilities,
the
usual
suspects,
and
we
put
together
a
list.
If
you
will
a
laundry
list
of
things,
we'd
like
to
see
done,
and
we
were
conservative
when
we
did
it,
we
didn't
say:
well,
let's
put
a
camera
in
every
corner.
We
tried
to
be
in
to
think
within
the
car
within
the
context
of
cost
and
also
the
context
of
not
being
overbearing.
We
don't
want
to
feel
like
our
customers
are
walking
into
a
fortress.
K
K
Anyway,
the
costs
you
have
in
front
of
you
are
broken
down.
You
have
the
security
system,
and
then
you
have
the
construction
proposal.
The
security
system
for
the
first
phase
is
going
to
be
again.
This
is
first
phase
which
would
be
City,
Hall,
City,
Hall,
Annex
and
that'd.
Be
about
that'd,
be
48
959
in
the
second
we're
going
to
be
doing
Public,
Safety,
Public,
Works
and
utilities,
and
some
other
miscellaneous,
and
that's
going
to
be
24/7
728
again,
that's
security
component
that'll
be
done
by
that
contractor
on
the
physical
modification
side.
K
C
K
Bid
process
was
an
interesting
one,
but
we
believe
that
what
we
got
was
is
fair
pricing.
It
was
not
budgeted
because
this
all
came
up
in
a
non
budgeted
way.
It
was
not
something
that
we
could
have
foreseen
coming,
but
it's
in
front
of
you
we're
just
about
through
2018,
so
I've
taken
my
five
minutes
plus
a
little
bit
and
turn
it
over
to
you.
The.
D
Dollars
you
have
are
broken
up
by
fund
when
it
says
general.
That's
the
special
use
fund
that
will
be
the
special
use
fund,
as
opposed
to
general
operations.
Utilities,
building,
sanitation
and
canal
maintenance
have
a
share.
They
all
can
support
it
within
their
budgets
for
FY,
19,
2019
and
FY
2020.
Then.
A
L
K
J
A
L
E
All
right
our
job
on
Council
is,
you
know:
it's
not
just
roof
tiles,
it's
also
to
perform
short
term
medium
term
and
long
term.
Strategic
planning
for
the
city
and,
as
such
I
mean
looking
at
the
environment
that
the
city
is
in
right
now,
our
future.
In
terms
of
financial
security,
our
ability
to
preserve
our
small-town
feel
our
high-level
services
and
a
relatively
low
property
taxes
are
contingent
upon
the
city
being
able
to
positively
benefit
from
developments
at
the
airport
authority
from
Tucker's
grade
Babcock,
Ranch,
Sunseeker,
Murdoch
village,
and
having
a
proactive
annexation
plan.
E
With
this
said,
the
master
plan
which
we're
going
to
embark
on
I'm
starting
this
fall.
It's
gonna
allow
us
to
be
able
to
know
what
the
community
wishes,
as
well
as
being
able
to
make
a
very
strong
financial
and
development
plan
in
terms
of
how
to
achieve
this,
but
he's
pretty
much
observing
our
identity,
while
also
being
able
to
be
financially
viable.
So
with
this
said
for
this
not
to
simply
be
just
another
study
that
goes
on
on
a
wall,
we
need
to
have
a
plan
to
fully
implement
this,
and
so
what
I'm
suggesting?
E
This
person
will
still
be
in
place
for
the
next
10-15
years
to
perform
the
role,
because
what
we
don't
want
is
have
like
in
the
past,
where
we
have
a
bear,
a
council
that's
very
invested
in
it,
and
then
we
have
people
in
then,
all
of
a
sudden,
the
energy
is
gone
and
now
it
stopped,
and
we
have
to
really
look
at
what
partner
is
going
to
be
like
20
years
from
now,
and
so
with.
This
said
and
I
want
to
put
one
thing
out
there.
E
So
people
understand
where
we
really
are
even
with
even
growth.
Wise
is
that
if
we
were
to
maintain,
let's
say
this
idea
that
we
can
rely
on
eventual
taxes,
only
we
have
about
2,500
buildable
Lots
left
in
the
city,
and
let's
say
we
were
to
go
gangbusters
and
fully
build
out.
What
Punta,
Gorda
actually
gets
from
property.
Taxes
from
the
county
per
resident
is
between
three
and
eight
hundred
dollars
a
year.
E
So
if
you
multiply
twenty
five
hundred
times
five
hundred
dollars
per
se,
that's
one
point:
two:
five
million
dollars
a
year
extra
to
take
care
of
five
thousand
extra
people.
Point
being
we
in
order
to
afford
our
future.
We
have
to
be
able
to
really
lean
in
to
the
developments
that
are
happening
in
the
county
and
the
only
way
we
can
preserve
our
way
of
life
that
we
know
it,
as
our
small
town,
Punta
Gorda
way
is.
If
we
do
this
and
I
say
the
only
way
we
can
do
this.
E
Is
this
study
we're
doing
with
the
master
plan
we're
going
to
come
out
with
really
concrete
data
from
a
technical
standpoint
about
what
industries
we
need
to
be
in
to
where
we
need
a
place,
our
energy?
What
we
need
to
do,
we
need
to
have
someone
in
place
in
a
bureaucratic
situation.
Who's
gonna
be
in
a
seat
for
the
next
10
15
20
years,
who
can
actually
be
there?
E
So
when
our
council
changes
they'll,
be
committed
to
this
and
I
think
it's
very
necessary
plus
when
a
standpoint
of
financially
this
position
will
only
be
in
place
for
no
more
than
two
years.
I
would
say
you
know,
based
on
Howard's
plans,
as
well
as
in
terms
of
thinking
this
through
I've
even
found
grants
that
this
person
could,
you
know,
assist
in
writing
which
would
actually
pay
for
their
position.
E
I
mean
I've
found
already
I've
already
talked
to
director
become
development
authority,
the
administration
out
of
Atlanta
there's
things
they'll,
give
us
50
percent,
marching
funds
for
different
development
things.
We
had
the
National,
Park
Service
historical
preservation
fund.
We
have
the
National
Maritime
I'm
heritage
grant
program.
We
even
have
the
Florida
Division
of
historical
resource,
historical
markers.
This
is
little
things
I
think
very
easily.
E
A
Like
those
all
of
those
ideas
to
Prabhas
right
now,
it's
not
in
the
budget
and
we've
had
those
other
positions
come
up,
so
would
would
have
to
be
a
package
deal
when
we
consider
those
other
positions
which
we
have
put
aside
for
this
next
fiscal
year.
As
far
as
I
know,
I
really
like.
If
we
did
anything,
I
did
like
the
city
of
Fort
Myers
that
they
have
this
contract
position.
That
might
be
one
way
to
try
it
out
and
if
the
person
was
you
know,
we
thought
they
were
the
person.
A
Then
we
could
extend
that
somehow.
But
I
don't
know.
Based
on
that,
it's
you
got
to
look
at
the
prolonged
throwing
cons
that
if
we
did
go
with
a
contract
position,
then
what
kind
of
person
are
we
really
gonna
be
attracting
so
I'd
like
all
of
the
ideas,
the
funding
of
the
position
would
need
to
be
a
real
commitment
by
this
council
I'm
interested
yes,
so.
B
I,
like
the
idea
but
from
a
different
angle
for
me
and
one
of
the
the
ideas
would
be,
is
as
we've
been
and
I
wish.
Howard
wasn't
here
to
hear
this,
but
we've
been
spoiled
by
having
good,
solid,
continuous
leadership
on
the
staff
that
it
culminates
with
Howard,
and
that's
really.
What
we're
talking
about
Howard's
days
are
not
gonna
be
10.
B
15
years
out,
he
has
stated
that
we've
agreed
to
that,
and
we
know
that
the
question
is:
is
how
do
we
transition
that
as
seamlessly
as
possible,
and
there
may
be
several
date
ways
to
go.
I
don't
know
that
we
have
to
do
something
today,
but
I
do
think.
It's
important
that
we
start
the
serious
discussion
today,
because
Howard
has
made
a
commitment
that
he's
not
going
to
be
gone
tomorrow,
etc
and
there's
there
several
ways
of
bringing
finding
the
the
person
without
having
to
go
out.
B
Okay,
we
get
six
months
notice
and
now
we've
got
to
find
to
be
able
to
maybe
for
the
best
better.
A
lot
of
a
better
word
is
to
test-ride
who
we
would
like
to
see
in
that
transition
and
that
person
may
come
from
our
own
staff
and
therefore
that
person
may
come
from
out
and
if
it
comes
from
out,
we
could
do
something
like
a
contract
or
or
something
of
that
sort.
B
But
to
start
in
earnest
in
preparation
for
that
in
industry,
when
you
were
in
middle
management,
the
way
to
get
to
the
next
level
was.
Is
that
you
had
to
have
your
replacement
trained?
You
know
it
was
you
had
to
mentor,
find
mentor
trained
so
that
when
you
left
your
little
group
kept
being
productive,
so
I
think
we
need
to
have
those
conversations
to
go
in
that
direction
in
earnest
and
not
just
today
and
then
forget
about
it
for
six
months.
B
We
need
to
bring
this
up
and
and
try
to
evolve
on
where
we
really
would
want
to
go
collectively
as
a
body
so
that
we
can
have
a
this
and
and
maintain
a
seamless
transition,
but
somebody
that
is
invested
in
our
strategic
plans
and
and
and
our
culture
and
our
ambience
and
and
very
much
attuned
to
where
we
want
to
go
rather
than
bringing
them
in
cold
and
six
months
expected
them
to
be.
You
know
in
complete
control
because
I
don't
think
that's
fair
for
that
person
either.
We
have
an
interesting
community
here.
F
F
There
are
really
things
that
they
feel
we
need
to
help
us
move
forward
and
we
put
those
on
the
table.
So
I
I
think
at
this
point
in
time.
Yeah,
it's
nice!
It's
that
some
cities
have
assistant
city
managers,
but
my
goodness
not
only
are
the
salaries
quite
significant,
but
they're
the
size
of
those
cities
is
at
least
three
times
the
size
of
a
quarter
or
more
so
I
think
that
you
know
once
we
get
to
that
size
which
I
don't
know
that
we
ever
will.
F
E
I
mean
one
thing:
is
that,
unlike
the
past,
we're
in
a
period
where
Punta
Gorda
is
no
longer
the
economic
driver
in
the
county,
and
so
with
that
said,
we
have
set
costs,
etc.
We
we
extra
in
position
where
the
city
is
gonna,
have
to
act
in
the
way.
It's
not
acted
before
so
kind
of
like
what
it's
got
us
here
is
not
going
to
take
us
there.
It's
in
in
with
me
saying
this.
It's
like.
E
We
have
a
precedent
for
this
that,
if
we're
going
to
look
at
spending
half
a
million
to
some
to
$3
million
dollars
on
a
plan-
and
this
plan
is
a
plan
which
is
really
going
to
kind
of
give
us
a
real
view
of
who
we
are
but,
more
importantly,
to
technical
aspect
of
what
we
need
to
do
to
get
there
I
think
taking
that
lightly.
I
think
we
shouldn't
ake
it
lightly.
I.
Think
this.
E
If
we're
gonna
spend
money
on
a
master
plan,
I'd
say
that
we
should
at
least
consider
and
I'm
saying
they
make
a
decision
today.
But
I
think
we
would
be
actually
be
irresponsible
if
we
didn't
think
of
having
implementation
plan
for
the
master
plan
and
just
thinking
that
we
can
continue
as
we're
doing
now
and
continuing
forward
and.
A
F
I'm
not
I,
don't
think
that
we
need
to
entertain
anything
at
this
point
in
time.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
we
need
to
do
things
differently
and,
and
that's
gonna
come
out.
I
believe
you
know,
I
would
anticipate
it
coming
out
in
this
master
plan
and
how
we
can
move
forward,
but
I,
don't
I,
just
see
I,
don't
see
the
need
to
adopt
any
kind
of
as
an
assistant
city
manager
position
at
this
point
in
time
to
help
us
achieve
that.
F
I
think
that
that
we'll
be
able
to
move
forward
and
I
think
that
we'll
be
able
to
attract
someone
I
have
scoured
what
attracted
you
to
Punta
Gorda.
When
you
came
here
and
I,
think
that
you
know-
and
that
was
an
interesting
conversation
and
I-
think
the
same
thing
will
happen
in
the
future.
There's
gonna
be
somebody
that
was
going
to
want
to
come
and
and
grab
a
hold
of
this
and
help
us
because
they're
gonna
see
hey.
This
is
a
community.
F
That's
really
put
something
exciting
and
vibrant
together
and
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
this
and
I
want
to
help
lead
that
charge
and-
and
that's
gonna
happen,
and
we
don't
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
worry
about
that.
I
think
that's
gonna
happen
in
down
the
road,
so
I
think
that
you
know
I,
don't
think
it's
being
any.
You
know
putting
our
head
in
the
sand
at
all.
I
think
that
you
know
we're
setting
ourselves
up
for
something
great
and
I.
Think
that
that's
I.
A
Think,
along
that
line
too,
though,
at
the
conference
talking
to
city
manager,
positions
are
very
competitive
now
and
it's
a
different
world
politically,
it's
a
different
world
public
service,
wise,
it's
a
different
world.
It's
a
different
type
of
job.
We
just
got
done
talking
about
security
enhancements.
Why?
Because
things
have
happened
here
and
we
have
to
address
those
so
I
would
love
for
your
scenario
to
be.
You
know,
written
in
stone
somewhere,
but
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
agree
with
that
Gary
Howard.
D
B
Double
what
the
average
tenure
presently
is
for
city
managers
in
this
country-
just
looked
it
up
at
six
point:
nine
years:
okay,
and
that's
not
what
we
want.
We
don't
want
average
and
that's
why
we
need
to
have
a
serious
conversation
now
to
track
the
right
person.
That's
gonna,
be
with
us
for
another
15
years.
C
E
H
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
hear
from
Howard
if
he
thinks
that
he
needs
somebody
as
a
support
position
for
his
position.
I
had
a
long
conversation
with
him
when
we
had
our
briefing
this
week
and
based
on
that
conversation,
I
do
not
feel
that
we
need
to
move
forward
right
now.
It's
a
wish
list
type
of
thing
and
we
have
a
lot
of
other.
As
Nancy
mentioned,
there
are
a
lot
of
other
jobs
that
we
wanted
to
bring
on
board
for
next
year.
H
That
are
unfunded,
and
this
would
certainly
be
another
one
of
those,
and
we
can't
we
can't
consider
hiring
somebody
with
the
hope
that
a
grant
is
going
to
pay
part
of
their
salary.
We
just
don't
have
the
money
in
the
budget,
it's
not
there
and
we've
already
set
the
tentative
millage
rate
for
next
year.
So
we
can't
change
that.
H
My
question
Howard
directly
was:
how
long
do
you
want
to
be
here,
and
his
response
was
at
least
a
couple
more
years.
I,
don't
know
what
the
sudden
urgency
is
for
this,
because
I
I
don't
feel
for
a
city
our
size
that
we
need
to
have
another
support.
Key
heavily
salaried
type
of
position.
We
just
brought
on
board
a
new
communications
manager,
that's
another
one
of
those
heavy
salaries.
You
know
we're
not
in
a
position
where
we
have
endless
pots
of
money
at
the
end
of
the
rainbow.
H
Unfortunately,
it
would
be
great
if
we
did,
but
we
don't
and
I
just
personally
do
not
see
that
the
need
exists
right
now,
I
thought
that
the
city
ran
pretty
well.
When
Howard
had
to
go
on
vacation-
and
you
know
we
have
some
very
intelligent,
Department
managers
that
kept
the
ship
running
and
so
I
just
I.
Just
don't
see
why
we're
in
such
urgent
position
to
do
this?
H
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
us
competing
with
Sunseeker
I,
don't
see
us
competing
with
Murdoch
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
that
exists
and
that's
my
personal
opinion.
I've
talked
to
at
least
a
couple
dozen
people
who
saw
the
agenda
item
and
not
one
of
them
supported
this.
So
I
speak
on
behalf
of
those
that
I've
already
talked
to
in
the
community.
It's
just
my
position.
A
B
I'm,
somewhere
between
the
two
of
you
by
the
way
I.
What
I'm
saying
is
what
I'm
saying
is.
We
need
to
start
having
we
and
we
have
started
it
today.
We
need
to
start
having
this
discussion
and
earnest
to
be
proactive
so
that
we're
not
reactive,
that's
number.
One
number
two
is
I'm,
not
sure
that
we
don't
have
the
candidate
already.
We
just
haven't
that
they're
already
on
staff.
That's
I
want
to
emphasize
that
because
I
think
I've
been
pretty
clear
in
my
tenure
up
here
and
I'm,
pretty
impressed
with
our
staff
in
general,
yeah.
B
And-
and
that's
that's
my
exactly
my
point-
why
we
should
be
having
this
discussion
now
and
if
there
are
individual
or
individuals
that
may
not
have
the
full
skill
sets
yet
but
could
develop
those
skill
sets
properly.
Then
that's
when
we
should
start
mentoring,
that
person
or
if
we
do
have
another
retirement
of
a
of
a
major
department
that
we
have
to
go
outside,
for
which
doesn't
happen
often
but
does
happen.
Then
we
should,
when
we
look
for
that,
we
should
kind
of
have
this.
B
Also
in
the
back
of
our
mind,
and
then
we
shouldn't
also
rule
out,
as
you
said,
is
bringing
in
at
some
point
time.
I
don't
think
this
year,
but
at
some
point
I
may
be
a
contract
person
that
could
be
mentored
to
see,
and
you
know
test-drive
them
for
that
six
months
or
a
year
or
whatever
that
contract
is
I,
just
want
to
emphasize
that
this
community
is
spoiled
wonderfully
spoiled.
And
it's
because
we
have
staff
that,
even
though
we
don't
pay
quite
as
much,
they
still
have
loyalty
to
us.
B
Even
though
we
don't
have
as
much
over
staffing
as
other
cities,
they
still
seem
to
perform
and
step
up,
and
we
they've
have
demonstrated
this
really
for
the
last
15
years,
and
so
we've
got
great
people
here
and
we
need
to
see
where
we
can
develop
those
people
and
bring
people
in
with
that
kind
of
culture.
I
go
back
to
what
I
just
pulled
off
on
the
internet.
Howard's
position
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
durability
in
most
communities.
B
We
don't
want
that
to
change
when
howard
leaves
us.
I
believe
that
very
strongly
and
that's
why
we
need
to
have
an
earnest
productive
conversation
that
begins
today
at
this
meeting
and
continues
on
from
time
to
time
so
that
we
can
evolve
to
make
that
transition
when
it
comes
something
that
we
really
are
comfortable
with
a
good
quality,
well
worn
in
shoe
that
we're
going
to
continue
on
forward
with
with
the
with
our
aspirations
as
a
community,
and
that's
really
where
I'm
coming
from
one
thing.
A
That
you
brought
up
the
communications
manager
that
how
many
years
did
that
take.
It
was
in
the
strategic
plan,
marketing
and
and
was
in
the
strategic
plan
for
years
and
years
and
years
until
we
finally
formalized
it,
and
we
finally
decided
to
make
a
plan
and
put
some
money
behind
it.
How
many
years
did
that
take.
D
A
I,
don't
feel
any
sense
of
urgency
this
moment
and
if
it
was
presented
that
way,
I
didn't
feel
that
so
I
don't
think
it's
urgent.
So
maybe
what
I
would
suggest
is
that
we
did
not
put
the
strategic
plan
on
today's
agenda.
Why
don't
we
throw
that
in
there
somewhere
exploration
of
assistant
city
manager
position
and
have
that
as
our
discussion,
when
we
talk
about
the
strategic
plan.
E
We're
talking,
if
Howard's
thinking
of
staying
until
say,
sometime
2020,
that's
not
long,
that's
not
far
away
in
best
part
of
our
planning
is
planning
for
that.
We
need
it's
really
not
far
any
organization
worth
its
salt
has
succession
planning
the
no
one,
no
one
ever
at
the
last
minute
tries
to
put
it.
You
always
have
to
plan
to
toward
a
future
today,
and
so
that's
the
thing
about
this
and
I
I
agree.
This
is
the.
A
Florida
League
of
Cities
organization
has
had
a
five-year
succession
plan.
The
deputy
executive
director
will
be
from
what
I
see
the
next
executive
director.
It's
they've
been
doing
this
plan
for
five
years.
The
director
is
now
64,
so
this
year
they
put
a
committee
together
about
the
continuous,
the
new
hire
the
compensation
for
the
new
person.
So
they've
been
at
this
for
a
long
time
and
they're
a
great
model
to
follow
because
they
they
have
a
very
hearty
organization,
but
they
really
care
deeply
about
succession
planning
and
they
plan
it.
F
D
D
Is
mm-hmm
but,
in
my
opinion,
Punta
Gorda
is
an
attractive
community.
You
are
going
to
have,
in
my
opinion,
not
much
difficulty
attracting
clients,
I
mean
candidates,
I
think
you
will,
if
you
choose
to
go
to
the
outside
mm-hmm
we're
attractive
community
and
that
you
we're
going
to
have
a
new
master
plan
in
place
with
implementation
schedules.
People
are
gonna
want
to
come
here.
They're
gonna
want
to
be
a
part
of
that,
so
attracting
a
candidate
from
the
outside.
D
D
The
departments
are
meeting
with
their
staff
because
and
and
seeing
what
kind
of
aspirations
staff
have
in
different
types
of
positions,
and
it's
incumbent
upon
me
to
do
the
same
with
the
staff
that
report
to
me
and
we
will
be
having
those
conversations
and
then
by
the
end
of
August
and
September,
we're
going
to
be
putting
together
the
next
phase
of
our
succession
plan.
So
there
may
be
folks
out
there
who
have
aspirations
to
become
more
involved
in
a
position
such
as
this
I.
D
Don't
know,
I,
don't
know
there
might
be
there's
some
that
take
over.
Obviously,
when
I'm
not
here
I
mean
you
know
who
runs
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
city
when
I'm
not
here,
but
then
there
are
those
who
who
sit
in
as
a
city
manager
on
nights
weekends.
So
they
may
have
some
aspirations
and
if
that's
the
case,
we
have
plenty
of
time
for
them
to
mentor
plenty
of
time
and
I.
Think.
D
D
And
some
of
you
have
pointed
out,
this
is
not
a
budgeted
position.
There
are
other
positions
that
our
departments
have
highlighted
to
you
that
they
feel
are
are
something
we
need
to
seriously
consider
and
we
may
be
reconsidering
some
of
those
depending
on
how
you
deal
with
some
items
coming
up
later
in
the
agenda.
So
I
can
put
it
as
part
of
this
40
check
plan
discussion
and
we
have
time
to
put
a
plan
together
for
transition.
A
And
would
agree
with
jaha's
point
to
we're
making
a
substantial
investment
into
this
master
plan,
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
and
so
to
his
point,
to
make
that
kind
of
investment
and
not
follow
through
with
it,
because
we
know
we
have
limited
time
for
Howard.
That's
the
part
that
I'm
really
dialed
into
that
I
think
is
truly
important.
Well,.
E
We
don't
see
it
downtown,
that's
the
problem.
We
see
yes,
percentage-wise,
you
see
a
lot,
but
the
truth
is
in
terms
of
the
effect
of
our
commercial
tax
base.
That
part
we
didn't
achieve
and
that's
the
part
we
have
to
achieve
in
this
coming
future
for
us
to
stay
viable,
let's
say
5
10
15
years
in
the
future.
That's
the
part
we
have
to.
A
B
B
Or
any
one
of
a
number
of
communities
that
have
some
really
serious
problems,
we
have
our.
We
have
our
problems
in
our
issues,
but
they're
not
they're,
not
catastrophic,
so
that's
that
would
be
attractive
to
somebody
who
doesn't
want
to
lose
ten
years
of
their
life,
so
to
speak.
So
that's
just
a
comment
and
so
well-run
machine.
F
A
Item
the
next
is
purchase
of
cell
phones
for
use
by
City
Council
members.
I
will
address
that
because
recently,
with
changes
to
our
certificates
for
security,
I
lost
all
access
to
my
email
and
my
calendar
on
my
iPhone.
So
it
came
to
a
cheese
attention,
but
of
course
they
could
not
address
it
as
fast
as
you
know,
it
may
be
on
its
way
to
being
corrected,
but
it
was
quite.
A
It
was
quite
a
challenge
for
me
and
every
time
then
I
would
then
Brad
worked
with
me
to
go
on
safari
to
go
to
the
browser
to
go
to
the
email
access,
but
I
still
had
to.
You
know,
click
these
things.
That
said,
the
website
was
being
impersonated
and
all
these
windows
were
popping
up.
So
not
when
I
first
became
a
council
member
things
that
this
is
another
thing.
Things
have
changed.
We
used
our
own
personal
emails.
We
never
had
a
city's
phone
number
assigned
and
over
time
we've
realized.
A
A
D
A
Other
thing
that's
happened
over
the
last
month.
Coincidentally,
now
that
there's
an
election
coming
up
is
that
my
voicemail
has
been
full
plenty
of
times
and
that's
my
own
personal
plan,
my
own
person,
storage,
I,
only
have
limited
amount,
and
so
people
would
text
me
and
say
your
voicemails
full.
So
that's
another
reason
why
I
thought
you
know
having
a
second
phone
is
not
a
bad
idea,
because
then
I
have
my
city
voicemails
over
here
and
I
have
my
personal
voicemails
over
here.
So
that
was
another
thing
that
came
up.
That
was
frustrating.
So
if.
D
F
B
F
E
F
F
I
you
know
having
these,
it
was
able.
I
was
able
to
demonstrate
to
the
Airport
Authority
the
importance
of
having
a
separate
device
because
they
were
all
conducting
business
on
their
own
and
didn't
want
a
separate
device
and
they
so
I.
Had
you
know
during
public
comment
period,
was
able
to
stand
up
and
show
them
this
and
be
able
to
the
tablet
and
being
able
to
explain
the
public
records
law
and.