City of Punta Gorda Council Meeting 1-6-16, 6 Jan 2016

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From YouTube: City of Punta Gorda City Council 1-6-16 Part 4

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This about quite not checking if the Charter doesn't provide it's about it's about question, but the charter doesn't specify. Then you have a discretion but sort of. If you do, if you choose to make it just residents, you know of the city as participants. That's certainly acceptable. Maybe.

B

That's a change in the charm, maybe.

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Yeah, what's to say, he's very handsome. That's a charter issue to me. Yeah.

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Back to the referendum issue of divide do I understand correctly that the city is precluded from putting a referendum item on valid. That's.

F

What our agreement with the supervisor of elections states that only candidate races will be put on their ballot and we have not put any referendum issues on their ballot. The last time we had referendum issues, it was done during a standalone election was not on their palette. So there's really no precedence. Two recent Presidents we.

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Reason that I.

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That I mentioned that as I had brought up once before, we have had absolutely no success in negotiating an overlay, South County oval in agreement with it with a county and I mentioned it here. Someone's back I was hoping that if we all agreed that we may want to consider putting in I said referendum item on our ballot, it wouldn't be binding in any way, but that would given.

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Up it's only to the folks who.

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Live in the city to to make your opinion clearly voice their opinion concerning an overlay.

B

Also the come I mean: can you talk to him about that, because people vote in a general election more than just our city elections? So if we were going to have a rough random, it seems like we would want it on that ballot. Right.

H

Getting the vote out on an on what's considered to be a non election year and off year, is a really challenging thing, as if we had an important referendum, we would have to spend a lot of effort, especially if we have.

F

Expense election: that's why the recent bill became that's coming through about elections was so debated, was because some of those, especially the smaller municipalities, felt like having their issues on at the county's ballot resulted in under voting, and you know people were just. They were only interested in the major races and so the the local races weren't voted on. So there was a lot of under voting, so you know there are issues with that that you know there are bigger issues with it with.

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On the county's balance.

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And, historically, that our elections has only been one district, the last couple times we've even had one so.

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We've even had a contestant, that's.

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One-Fourth of our registered voter population- that's even interested it.

H

Was the twenty-eight percent turnout at that election mm-hmm former.

C

Mayor had a comment: I think he's been on the Charter Review. He.

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Has something I was I was chairman of last.

C

Time review.

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Committee- and we can, if you get the people picked early quickly, we could recite I'm sure the committee can respond and hat if you can get it on the 2016 ballot, because what they did we did is we went item by item and we had. I forget how many meetings we had, but we had enough meetings and we were able to do it at in time. So thank.

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F

I'm looking at the end.

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Those bones not.

F

Mine I am looking at the Charter and the paragraph for the Charter Review Committee. It is, it is I, guess maybe a little vague. It says. Appointments to the Charter Review Committee shall be made by the City Council. That's as far as it goes. Okay,.

C

And we need a legal counsel.

F

In 2010 it was decided the city attorney could serve as legal counsel. However, due to just to keep costs low, it was decided that it would not be necessary for the city attorney to attend every meeting of the committee, but rather for him to serve. As you know, if they had questioned as I.

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Serve in that capacity, just answer, questions and okay and to maybe even review what they what their final product was before. I went to counsel mm-hmm.

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Is that acceptable very.

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Okay, Tom with.

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Would we be rolling? Are we willing to pursue a conversation with the Board of Elections concerning a referendum on the ballot without South County? Oh boy,.

C

Maybe you should put that as an agenda item.

H

I'd be willing to have it as an agenda item this.

C

Meeting turned into a whole another meeting with another meetings for the agenda.

C

That's what happens when we have discussions come.

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Up with one more so that way, when we negotiate with the will drop it from three to two.

F

So, are you you're, okay, with these okay.

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Everybody's all kids, and to.

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What timeframe do.

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You I don't know, do you want two or four three.

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F

I mean three would give us a if you designate your your person and then the other two to vote from I think it gives us a bigger pool of people only having five devote from yeah.

F

Could somebody would back out, or you want us to give 33.

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People from our dessert yeah.

C

Then we're going to vote anyway and take to it large into you alternate sorry.

H

Also more district, or they just know, one.

F

Definitely from the district one.

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From your district and the others, uh-huh.

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C

You might get duplicates okay.

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F

It's not like, we can talk about who.

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Who are gonna select? That's.

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Correct but then that we could still only we obviously moved with that person's name on the list. One time: okay,.

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So three names: okay,.

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And how, when I'm.

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You like to before we we bring this back to get the februari meeting. First.

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One in February.

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Us time to talk to people and see if they're, interested, okay.

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Actually, if, if you would like, you can just submit it.

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To me, and the next agenda item would be voting on the alternates and and at large.

C

Okay, that would I still think first meeting in February.

A

Yeah, where we talk tonight, I'm sorry when you talk to them, make sure they understand that it is a sunshine meeting, because there's some that may not want to participate in this case. Okay,.

F

Okay and that we will need them to fill out the board appointment form, and you know if they have a resume- that's not required, though, but we'd like them to fill out that form that, after you don't need to do that, could.

E

You maybe send us the detail, email, the details or so.

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With us absolutely.

C

Okay, you will have more items.

F

Under boards and committees we have a three year term on the burnt store, aisles canal, Advisory Committee and a vacancy. It's an unexpired term on the general employees, pension board, that's a continuing vacancy and that's all I have been reports of committees. You.

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So we haven't had any interested parties on the general employees. Pension board do not.

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Any requirements for that position: okay,.

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The resume okay.

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Just a city resident okay of.

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Course we would, you know such our homeboys pension board.

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Like somebody with some potential background, but.

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A given whoever's, but not.

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Just wondering.

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Damn meet quarterly only quarter, so we and we haven't, had any issues with chorim's. We have not not.

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So far because.

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We're only missing one can can a city employee in another city, employee, that's also a city resident of I.

C

Can we get another employee on that board.

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President, there are there rules there with. It needs to be true from the we.

C

Have those too but good day, I.

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Think well, I'd have to do if there's no prohibition, there's no reason why an employee can't be on the pension board, because it wouldn't necessarily not endure to their immediate direct benefit. Well,.

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We should ask city employees and our city residents that they would like to take this pot, possibly.

C

Because the part of the issue, the fact that they're kind of I mean this is what I took away from our last update, so they're having a kind of scale back on actually managing their limiting, what they are. But true Dave am I making something up, but they're actually getting out of some of their different aspects of what they were doing, because the plan is closed.

C

That's what I'm trying to which may make it a little for.

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The record Dave jury finds director on what they're doing is they're diversifying in a different direction. They've got into real estate and more than international, they are considering with the fact that the plan is closed. They have to their infinity. Is you know they're? Of course they invest for infinity. Well, that has been starting to squash down and they are doing that, but definitely they've changed them. What they're looking at their wondering what's going to happen with the bond market and that type of thing?

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But yes, they real estate was one big thing and then the international okay.

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The only I'm, not the expert pages, you are the the concern or that something I see is. If you have an employee, that's also a member of the pension plan. You would then have three employees or members of pension plan. Voting I is that it could that be a problem depends.

A

On how that depends on how that ordinance is draft? Okay,.

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That there shall be at least two yes,.

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It says two and then you have to citizens and one at large now.

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If the language doesn't preclude having more than two, we should be. Ok, ok,.

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If I could, I I think it's more because of the weird where the plan is going and that it's closing down and that the direction is going to be more toys to find benefit. That's a plan benefit but, like divine.

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C

Well, I say more stable bonds. What what are we trying to say more, like forced returns, instead of variable yep.

E

Yes, so I think it's important for us to keep the keep it open and a train. Ok,.

C

So I'm buddy, okay, yeah.

G

I would not urge an employee to be on the planet. Mm-Hmm.

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Okay policy and legislation mayor- I don't think I have anything. No I would just like to reiterate what you said about our police departments found and the sheriff's office working together to solve a situation and also that our police chief started coffee with the chief and, if you did not see the logo, that one of our officers created for this program is really nifty. It's on their Facebook page and I. Just would like to commend him for opening up the conversation with the community.

C

I think it's really important and it's great to see that that's all I have council member comments, Kim, nothing just happy.

B

New year, looking forward to another great year in Punta, Gorda I.

E

Would just like to acknowledge our representatives from the MPO mr. Harrington and mr. Garre here L, and what did stopping in the hallway a little earlier and mentioned that he would be working with us and staff. This ryan gets some money, some bicycle money for us.

C

Carrie well.

D

I want to wish everybody a happy new year.

D

It's just I just have to say that the couple of months now that I've been doing this I'm totally impressed not only with our police and fire department, but everybody both on staff and with you guys, and it's been looking forward to continuing so.

H

Anyway, happy new year, everybody, I.

D

Hope you all wish it all way up: Thank You, Nancy, I.

H

Have no general comments but happy new year as well to everyone and be a great year for us all.

C

Thank You citizens comments.

J

R, it rose president put a Gordon put a guard, I'll Civic Association I feel, like I've, been ignoring you, so I'm back councilman Kevin, all kind of stole my Thunder for today because was wanted to redress the saw overlay for the South County in the paper about a week. Maybe two weeks ago, there was a comment that the county commissioners wanted to actively pursue activity to improve the appearance of 41 north of the bridge north of the bridge, because they felt that it was so important how it represents our county. Well, south of the bridge.

J

They've got an easy solution, and that is is to approve the overlay which will prevent the situation from developing that they have north of the bridge. I have had occasion to talk to two commissioners and in both get one Fisher had to be reminded of what the South County overlay was, but in both cases they said. Oh yeah. We thought that was a done deal, but it's never come forward. So obviously something has stopped folks. We have spent I, think 11 or 12 years on this issue.

J

I, don't know how much staff time we've had public hearings we've gone through it. It's just criminal in my mind that they haven't even had the decency to bring it up for a vote and I, don't know how we do it if you can do one on one with your commissioners or what but it's wrong to allow it to go away because I think David. This is the complete third rewrite over the years of the ordinances and then on that topic. I got my message across on the subject of the.

J

Ballot when the recommendation I was on the first committee of two committees back and I, think we had 10 or 12 changes that were recommended. If I recall correctly, every one of those had to be listed separately for a vote and that's part of the problem on the long ballot.

J

Third comment is I'd like to congratulate you on pushing forward on the what I'll call the Marine Center, because I think that's going to have impact on a lot more than just what we put there, because if it's small, it's one thing, if you go to a very large Center that could impact things like in the impact building, the Yacht Club's, even us p, GI CA what we do with our building and what happens in those buildings.

J

So the sooner that that gets out and gets formated formulated, it'll help everybody with their own plans to develop, don't want to do in the future happy new year and you guys do to a great job and the city staff here is the best in the world.

G

Steve Fabian again thank you for bringing common sense back to Christmas.

G

There's a lock coming up the legislature that could affect and hamper our marine patrol officer on the waters.

G

It's a law that says that the he can no longer stop a boat to inspect whether or not they've been illegally fishing or they don't have the safety equipment on board. I. Think if council should think about maybe sending some kind of memorandum to our represent local representative that this is a bad law because it is going to hamper what our officer could do on the water and it's coming up for vote at the legislature. Thank.

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Other citizens comments seeing none. We are adjourned.