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From YouTube: Punta Gorda City Council 10-7-2015 Part 4
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A
So
I'm
going
to
run
through
now
just
some
different
presentations
that
they
sent
to
us
that
changed
a
few
elements.
I'll
go
through
all
of
the
different
things
that
they've
sent
us
to
present
and
then
I
think
at
the
end,
just
like
I
did
before
I've
got
a
screen
with
the
Ford
together
and
then
we
can
ask
questions
or
respond
to
anything
that
you
might
want.
So
the
first
one
that
I'm
showing
uses
a
switches,
the
Punta
Gorda
from
white
to
black,
to
try
and
make
it
crisper.
A
If
you
look
it
I'll
flip
back
and
forth
between
the
two,
you
can
see
the
change.
They
made
a
subtle
change
in
the
color
of
the
border,
color,
making
it
more
of
a
sea
green,
a
little
bit
less
lady,
but
it
still
feeds
into
matching
up
with
the
banner
colors
here
and
here
and
and
the
the
general
color
scheme
used
in
in
the
the
other
items
on
the
on
the
website.
This
this
one
used
a
use,
the
pointer
here.
A
It
did
drop
a
map
of
florida
in
to
try
and
show,
and
when
we,
when
we
saw
this
design,
we
asked
them
to
create
a
new
one
that
brought
the
state
of
florida
down
a
little
further
so
that
it
matched
up
with
the
hibiscus
and
I'll
show
you
that
in
just
a
minute
the
other
alternative
was
to
use
the
word
florida.
So
the
only
real
difference
between
the
previous
one
and
this
one
is
instead
of
the
map.
It
has
the
subtle
florida
across
the
top
of
the
banner.
A
A
So
moving
on
to
the
next
design,
I'm
going
to
show
you
is
a
response
to
brightening
up
some
of
the
colors
again
with
the
the
white
punta
gorda,
with
the
swoop
logo
at
the
top.
In
all
of
these,
the
text
on
the
menu
buttons
over
here
that
you
had
commented
about
has
been
cleaned
up.
Is
a
darker
color
is
easier
to
read.
If
you
notice,
as
I,
go
back
and
forth
between
these
two,
you
can
see
the
brightness
that
they
put
into.
A
But
if
you
look
at
the
in
the
spotlight,
they
actually
lightened
it
to
make
it
easier
to
read
with
with
the
brighter
colors.
This
one
also
has
the
full
Florida
map
on
it,
so
that
you
can
tell
that
it's
it's
the
whole
state
we're
actually
looking
for
a
map
that
has
Lake
Okeechobee
on
it,
because
that
again
is
just
a
very
recognizable
landmark
in
Florida.
D
A
B
D
A
C
A
Other
and
and
in
these
right
here
it
can
be
darkened
up.
We
left
it
is
very
subtle
because
we
wanted
it
just
as
almost
a
not
subliminal,
but
it
was
something
that
was
just
supposed
to
the
I
would
catch
it
as
you
were
reading
the
rest
of
the
site
and
would
process
that.
Yes,
this
was
Florida.
We
didn't
want
the
map
to
stand
out.
He
because
it
was
more
of
just
a
background
texture
than
it
really
was
a
graphic
image.
A
A
F
Find
it
very
difficult
to
read
still
I
had
one
of
my
that's
the
average
on
the
meeting
yesterday
I
asked
about
the
map
of
florida,
and
it
was
pointed
out
to
me
that
don't
you
see
the
map,
no,
I
don't
see
the
map
at
the
same
agenda
meeting
I
said:
what's
that,
what
are
those
on
the
left
hand
side
of
the
screen?
What
is
that-
and
I
was
told
it's
a
hibiscus-
maybe
it's
just
me-
Quincy
Florida,
good
Nutella-
that
was
a
hibiscus
and
I
really
think
it
needs.
G
F
Assign
is
that
you
can,
with
the
computer
I
can
see
the
Korea.
They
want
the
boarding
on
the
right
that
we're
underneath
career
up
a
ton
of
these
documents
and
records.
But,
as
you
move
further
to
the
left,
it
becomes
a
little
bit
more
difficult
and
where,
where
you
have
in
the
spotlight
I
mean,
maybe
I
need
an
eye
exam.
But
it's
very
very
difficult
for
me.
A
And
also
remember
that,
what's
represented
here
too,
it
will
appear
a
little
bit
larger
on
the
average
computer
screen.
We've
compressed
it
down
here
to
get
it
into
the
powerpoint
to
be
able
to
show
clearly,
but
but
the
lettering
is
still
on
the
small
side,
so
I
can
understand
and
we've
it's
something
that
we've
brought.
What
what
it
boils
down
to,
or
what
makes
it
difficult
is
that,
if
to
make,
the
font
bigger,
reduces
the
number
of
items
that
you
can
show.
So
you
and
your
under
your
calendar,
your
meetings
and
events.
A
What's
shown
on
the
screen,
so
everything
kind
of
compresses
down
and
elongate,
and
and
so
you
don't
want
to
spread
it
to
why,
because
then
you
run
into
the
same
issues
when
you
transfer
it
to
that
other
to
that
portrait
type
screen
you'll
get
a
little
bit
of
a
different
of
a
different
view.
Again
it
won't
fit
quite
as
well,
but
what
we
can
do
is
is
this
whole
piece
right
here
that
the
width
of
the
picture
we
tried
to
keep
the
words
within
the
width
of
the
picture.
A
It
may
be
that
that
that
needs
to
come
out
a
little
bit
further
again
that
kind
of
eats
into
your
graphic
here,
but
it
come
out
just
a
little
bit
further.
That
would
allow
us
to
increase
the
font
size
here
and
crease.
The
font
sizes
here
by
stretching
it
sideways,
but
you're
very
limited,
is
into
how
much
space
you've
got
to
stretch
that
sideways
and
still
stay
within
a
design
of
this
type.
So
so
there's
there
are
some
considerations.
You
know
the
in
the
spotlight.
A
You
want
to
be
able
to
put
a
complete
thought
here,
because
that's
what
ever
year,
whatever
it
is
you're
trying
to
highlight
you
want
it
to
be
enough
information
that
they
understand
it
by
looking
at
it,
not
a
lot
of
detail.
But
again,
if
you
make
that
bigger,
there's,
you
have
less
less.
You
know
words
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
put
into
that
space
question.
A
A
That
could
be,
and
that's
another
difficulty
of
every
monitor
is
going
to
show
it
differently
and
that's
just
something
that
we
do
have
to
take
into
consideration
in
in
making
sure
the
font
is
crisp
and
clear
enough
that
no
matter
what
variation
of
that
black,
the
monitor,
picks
up
I
mean
you're.
Looking
at
it
a
very
low
resolution
image
right
now,
because
that's
what
the
monitors
are.
That's
what
all.
A
On
the
on
your
tablets,
it
should
be
a
little
bit
clearer.
It's
a
little
bit
better
yeah.
The
tablets
are
a
higher
resolution,
but
then
again
even
in
the
higher
resolution,
it's
a
smaller
image,
so
you're
going
to
have
that
same
loss
and
clarity
at
the
high
high
end.
If
you
were
seeing
it
on
the
in
the
same
resolution
and
the
monitors
as
on
your
computer,
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
probably
read
it
at
all
because
it
would
be
so
so
strong,
but.
H
C
G
Yes,
my
question
is
about
the
mobile
responsiveness:
do
you
think
that
if
I
know
a
lot
of
it
and
at
the
presentation
that
we
had,
instead
of
making
the
whole
saying,
go
and
have
all
of
those
pictures
and
all
of
those
colors
and
all
of
those
bars
remember
how
they
showed
us
some
of
the
companies
where
the
the
actual
on
a
mobile
device?
It
was
a
different.
You
were
really
just
getting
the
information
you
might
have
that
beautiful
picture,
but
you
weren't
loading.
All
of
this
graphic
and
all
of
that
kind
of
thing,
correct.
G
A
It
won't
help
with
the
what,
if
you,
if
you
look
at
this
in
terms
of
each
of
the
blocks
this
this
block
here
this
block
here
this
block
here
this
block
here
those
are:
what
become
your
screens
on
the
phone,
so
you're
going
to
lose
yes,
you're
not
going
to
have
the
the
picture
will
show
up
at
the
top,
but
it'll
be
a
smaller
picture.
You
won't
have
the
gradient
or
the
state
of
Florida
or
hibiscus
as
it
comes
down
to
the
phone
sighs.
A
It
won't
work
so
hard
to
try
and
put
those
elements
because
it'll
it's
going
to
trim
those
away
to
give
you
each
of
the
different
areas
of
the
website
that
you
can
scroll
through
and
you
can
manage
the
size
of
it
on
the
phone
to
be
able
to
make
it.
The
phone
will
actually
be
the
easiest
to
read
it's
getting
it
to
the
point
where
it's
readable
on
the
computer
screen
that
we
I
think
is
where
we
really
need
to
work.
It
do.
A
Something
we
can
serve
that
there's
arguments
both
ways
there.
There
are
those
that
you
know
from
a
design
standpoint
of
graphics,
design.
Standpoint
will
say
those
serif
is
the
clearest
and
there
are
those
that's
the
sans
serif
type
fonts,
a
colibri
or
something
along.
Those
lines
is,
and
we
can
experiment
with
fonts
as
well.
We
haven't
done
a
lot
of
fonts
and
I
can
take
that
back
to
vision,
internet
and
say
show
us
the
this
this
design.
A
G
B
Asked
a
number
of
residents
give
me
some
feedback
and
I
think
that,
with
the
addition
of
the
map
of
florida
was
a
very
nice
addition.
Thank
you
for
adding
the
powerboat,
because
that
was
a
comment
I
received
and
but
the
comment
about
the.
If
you
put
up
the
ball
four
on
the
screen,
the
one
on
the
lower
left
is
that
the
waves
can,
I
get
lost
in
it
as
much
as
if
you
look
at
work
on
the
upper
to
wear
the
logo
is
in
black.
B
A
B
That
the
feedback
I
received
was
more
that
when
you
look
at
the
four
together
the
upper
left-hand
one
was
preferred,
although
I
like
the
position
of
the
state
of
Florida
on
the
bottom,
once
it's
a
little
more
easier
to
see,
but
that
it
was
I
think
largely
because
of
the
logo
is
easier,
stands
out
more
in
the
upper
left
one
than
it
does
the
swooshes
just
don't
stand
out.
So
that's
ok,.
C
C
C
B
Says
that
what
are
the
waves
that
was.
A
And
I
think
that
that's
the
kind
of
guidance
that
we
can
take
back
and
say
that
from
a
from
a
design
and
layout
and
color
scheme,
the
bottom
left,
but
it
but
making
the
fonts
more
readable,
making
sure
the
logo.
You
can
see
all
the
elements
of
the
logo.
We
can
take
that
charge
back
to
them
and
that
that
gives
them
enough
to
work
with
to
try
and
try
and
just
do
the
tweaking.
If
we
can.
If
we
can
get
consensus
that
this
design
is,
is
from
it
from
a
grant.
C
A
That's
these
colors,
the
brighter
colors,
the
the
border.
Color
is
good
the
that
the
only
thing
that
really
needs
to
work
on
here
to
make
this
the
one
is
making
the
text
more
readable
and
making
sure
that
that
logo
really
highlights
the
elements.
I
think
we're
word.
You
know
ninety-five
percent
of
the
way
there
and
that's
something
we
can
take
back
division
internet
and
that
they
can
easily
okay.
C
H
C
I
F
A
A
C
Right
all
right
can
we
I
want
to
bring
this
to
a
close
okay.
So
now
we're
here
on
the
third
one
that
we've
looked
at
the
left.
One
on
the
bottom
we've
agreed
that
this.
Basically,
this
design
we've
also
agreed
that
we
want
it
more
readable
to
maybe
play
with
the
the
fonts.
Obviously,
the
font
in
the
logo
won't
change,
but
it
will
become
more
pronounced.
C
B
B
D
A
C
E
C
C
H
C
G
H
C
H
The
staff
and
the
Regional
Water
Authority
are
recommending
at
their
meeting
the
agreement
we
just
did.
If
they
don't
adopt
it
or
approve
it,
then
our
recommendation
is
that
we
let
the
state
legislators
know
that
Regional
Water
Authority
doesn't
want
to
move
forward
with
the
project
and
we
are
going
to
request
that
the
four
million
dollars
remain,
what
the
city
and
we'll
use
it
for
our
old
plant.
We
move
on
okay,.
C
They
don't
approve
it.
I
think
our
next
step
is
just
to
move
forward.
You
know
this
would
be
a
shame.
You
know,
as
we
think
about
it
there.
They
have
every
reason
to
approve
it.
It
we're
basically
providing
them
with
the
four
million
dollars
that
again
would
be
coming
through
the
state
appropriation,
an
additional
two
million.
We
have
ironed
out
the
timing
of
those
payments
with
the
understanding
and
only
with
the
understanding
that
the
city
would
receive
the
cooperative
funding
from
Swift
money.
So
they
again
their
board
needs
to
make
that
decision.
C
C
I'm
going
to
want
to
word
this
reception
make
an
exception
again.
The
policy
exception
I,
don't
think
they
can
do
it
as
we
would
do
it,
but
a
policy
exception
for
them,
and
then
they
could
move
forward
on
it.
So,
but
that
would
be
the
only
I
think
stumbling
block
in
terms
of
their
funding.
So
hopefully
they
will
come
through
and
they
will
do
that
and
then
we
will
be
able
to
report
to
our
legislative
delegation
that
we're
moving
forward.
D
C
H
E
H
C
H
B
F
H
G
C
C
G
E
I'll
come
back
for
the
record
Terry
to
presenting
official
in
the
historic
district
for
new
construction.
It
does
provide,
for
you
know,
finding
a
place
to
put
garbage
cans,
but
existing
construction.
They
have
them
on.
The
sides
of
the
house
just
depends
on
how
the
house
is
laid
out
and
have
lots
later.
G
B
B
C
K
I
was
asked
to
bring
this
to
you
by
Councilman
juror
kiessling,
the
Florida
Liga
city's
annual
legislative
conference
is
coming
up
in
November.
This
is
a
continuation
of
the
legislative
policy
meetings
and
she
has
indicated
an
interest
in
attending
and
seeking
approval
of
expending
those
funds
for
her
travel
and
registering
for
the
conference
circuit.
F
The
same
issue
or
a
similar
issue,
we
all
know
that
rachel
is
in
Washington
with
the
lead
today,
I
asked
Rachel,
who
is
paying
for
this
trip
to
Washington,
and
she
told
me
that
the
league
would
be
paying
for
part
of
her
hotel
expenses
and
maybe
some
with
the
food
and
so
on,
but
the
tube
is
going
to
expend
the
plane
ticket
on
our
own
I.
Don't
think!
That's
that's
right.
F
K
K
To
explain
that
she
has
received
partial
reimbursement
being
nominated
by
the
southwest
border
Liga
cities.
Some
reimbursement
was
provided
to
her
for
her
room.
She
had
volunteered
to
pay
for
the
flight.
She
has
no
actual
expense
because
it
was
paid
for
with.
You
know,
points
that
the
kiessling
family
already
had
so
she
has
incurred
no
actual
out-of-pocket
out
of
pocket,
and
the
city
has
reimbursed
her
for
her
per
diem
and
I
had
indicated
to
her
if
she
had
any
additional
expense,
such
as
cab,
fare
and
I
kind
of
think.
K
The
city
would
also
pay
for
that.
So
what
the
out-of-pocket
expense
it
would
not
be
covered
is
the
difference
between
what
she's
paying
for
her
hotel
room
and
what
the
League
of
Cities
has
reimbursed
her,
which
was
five
hundred
dollars.
So
it
isn't
the
consensus
to
pay
the
difference
between
yes,
I
think.
K
K
K
D
D
C
C
J
C
K
C
Mean
it
is
the
alternate
position
and
we
just
extended.
B
B
B
B
C
The
other
thing
I
did
want
to
bring
up
is
related
to
the
vacation
rentals.
We
have
talked
about
this
before
we've
had
several
complaints
regarding
some
issues
related
to
vacation,
rental
properties
and
those
that
have
been
staying
at
those
properties
and
the
particular
concern
is
with
the
rise
of
the
popular
rentals
rental
websites
with
the
vacation
rental
by
owners.
The
air
B&B
just
makes
it
easier
for
people
to
advertise
and
rent
out
their
residential
properties.
C
We
found
out
that
the
number
of
vacation
rentals
in
Florida
has
exponentially
increased
in
the
last
four
years.
Such
vacation
rentals
are
located
in
our
residential
or
city
center,
and
our
historic
historic
zoning
districts
in
the
city
and
I
think
both
you,
both
of
you,
were
looking
at
the
number
of
listings
and
they're,
probably
about
250
that
are
listed
vacation.
Rentals.
C
This,
so
I
think,
was
just
on
the
number
one
on
the
one
website
alone
and
and
it's
wonderful
I
mean
this-
is
bringing
residence
and
I
mean
bringing
visitors
to
our
area
with
maybe
never
been
here
before.
So
it's
a
good
thing,
but
unfortunately
there
have
been
issues
related
to
noise
levels,
late,
night
activities,
pet
control,
issues
on
street
parking
issues
and
some
impacts
on
our
public
services
of
Sanitation
etc.
Most
of
the
vacation
rentals
are
situated
in
the
neighborhood
in
our
neighborhoods,
where
we
have
had
a
very
peaceful
atmosphere.
L
K
C
People
who
are
working
and
have
to
get
up
in
the
morning
things
like
that
we
do
not
prohibit
vacation,
rentals
or
regulate
the
duration
or
frequency
of
vacation
rentals.
Nor
is
it
the
intention,
I,
don't
think
about
us
to
do
so,
but
rather
to
address
the
concerns
in
the
interest
of
the
health
peace,
safety
in
general
welfare
for
both
our
residents
and
our
visitors.
C
So
after
talking
with
staff,
inner
city
attorney,
I,
we've
confirmed
that
our
current
code
provisions
include
regulations
for
all
home
businesses
that
must
comply
with
zoning
issues,
as
well
as
other
issues
related
to
parking
trash
pets,
&
noise.
So
in
fact
our
do
our
code
provisions
do
hold
the
owner
of
the
property
responsible,
should
issues
not
be
resolved
with
a
tenant
and
all
must
have
a
business
tax
receipt.
C
But
what
we're
learning
is
that
some
owners
within
these
vacation
rentals
may
not
realize
that
they
must
have
a
business
tax
receipt
from
the
city
to
operate
their
business
in
Punta
Gorda.
Hence
they
would
not
have
detailed
information,
perhaps
on
our
city
codes
and
what's
allowed
for
their
renters.
Obviously,
those
who
rent
through
a
realtor
they
do
not
need
a
separate
tax
receipt.
C
So
that's
said,
and
based
on
the
recommendation
of
our
city
attorney
I
would
like
to
recommend
to
count
so
that
we
become
a
bit
more
aggressive
in
policing
short
term
rentals
that
have
failed
to
obtain
a
business
tax.
Receipt
residents
who
are
using
the
internet
sites
again
may
not
be
aware
that
the
requirement
for
operators
or
vacation
rentals
need
to
obtain
one.
So
I
was
thinking.
C
Maybe
we
should
give
a
grace
period
through
the
end
of
the
year
if,
for
some
reason,
a
resident
did
not
note
of
the
obligation
and
grant
them
to
come
to
City
Hall
before
the
end
of
the
year
and
obtain
a
business
tax
receipt.
Would
that
be
workable,
come
before
the
end
of
the
year
to
obtain
one,
and
then
staff
could
ensure
that
prior
to
granting
their
city
tax
receipt,
such
operators
would
have
a
license
from
the
state
of
Florida
as
well
as
registered
with
Charlotte
County.
Miss
Charlotte
County
tax
collector
to
collects
the
tourism
tax.
C
C
Well
put
in
our
weekly
reports
and
things
like
that,
I
think
basically,
and
they
may
already
know
it,
but
some
of
them
may
not,
and
unfortunately
it
appears
that
the
complaints
are
really
being
coming
from
those
properties
that
maybe
investor-owned
so
that
the
owner
again
is
not
aware
of
what's
going
on.
So
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
had
talked
about
was
any
citations
that
the
renter
receives
would
then
go
to
code
enforcement.
C
Just
as
a
copy
I
say
this
has
been
a
citation
and
then,
if
there's
more
than
two
that
the
owner
would
would
know
about
it,
but
they
would
let
the
owner
know
that
this,
because
if
I
was
renting
out
my
place
and
the
person,
that's
in
my
property
is
doing
something.
That's
really
annoying.
My
neighbors
I
would
like
to
know
about
it
sure,
and
you
know,
and
maybe
that
renter
would
come
back
next
year
and
I
would
know
about
it,
so
I
rent
it
to
them
again
pardon
well.
These
would
be
vacation
rentals.
C
K
Rules
are
I,
don't
believe
it
says
less
than
six
months.
It's
at
least
three
times
for
less
than
30
days.
During
a
calendar
year,
I
mean
vacation.
Rentals
are
specifically
mind
in
the
statute.
Okay,
the.
C
Actually
I
we
checked
with
our
accountant
with
regards
to
that
and
again
the
homestead,
if
you
rent
your
house
out
for
longer
periods
of
time,
in
other
words,
six
months
or
whatever,
when
you
return,
if
you
want
to
combat,
you,
no
longer
have
homestead
come
back
for
homesteading.
Your
house
is
then
valued
at
the
price.
C
It
is
then,
so
if
you
had
your
house
for
10-15
years
and
now
you
decide
to
rent
it
out
when
you
come
back
in
to
reapply
now,
it's
no
longer,
you
know
1990
rates
which
you're
going
to
be
paying
for
what
the
house
is
valued
at
now
for
your
homestead
tax.
So
it's
you
know.
People
obviously
way
those
decisions,
but
are
we
okay
with
this?
Yes,
I.
B
E
D
D
G
J
We
can
initiate
code
enforcement
for
the
failure
to
get
the
local
business
tax
receipt
and
we
could
put
a
stop
work
order.
Stop
that
we
can
require
them
to
stop
engaging
in
that
business,
which,
if
they've
got
renters
coming
in
they're
gonna,
have
to
tell
those
renters
that
they
can't
come
and
that's
going
to
backup,
and
so
it
will
become
an
economic
incentive
to
do
what
they're
supposed
to
do,
rather
than
run
the
risk
of
getting
caught
and
then
losing
business.
B
C
C
K
K
In
order
to
operate
the
business,
we
could
do
something
for
the
vacation
rentals,
where
we
actually
have
them
sign
an
affidavit
in
conjunction
with
the
business
tax
receipt
application
that
they
agree
to
certain
things
and
that
they
will
make
their
just
to
make
their
renters
aware
that
they
of
these
of
these
things
and
provide
them
with
additional
information,
but
maybe
sign
the
affidavit
that
they
received.
The
information.
That's
all
and.
H
B
Just
a
couple
things
one,
the
mount
dora
visit
was
very
productive
and
the
one
community
one
message
team
is
working
with
the
chamber
on
some
things
that
came
out
of
a
meeting
that
they
had.
So
all
together
we're
going
to
be
putting
together
a
recommendation
and
we're
targeting
the
second
meeting
in
december
to
make
a
recommendation
to
Council
on
what
we
think
should
be.
E
B
To
that
the
founders
day,
planning
is
going
very,
very
well
and
rachel
is
I,
don't
know
any
details,
because
I
can't
talk
to
Rachel
about
this
because
she
might
come
to
us
or
something
all
I
know
is
that
that
rachel
is
working
with
a
team
of
people
on
something
to
do
on
friday.
The
fourth
of
december,
some
kind
of
christmas
kind
of
an
event
yeah.
B
Organizing
it
I
don't
know
anything
more
I
also
know
that
on
Thursday,
the
third
of
December
she's,
also
working
with
someone
to
work
on
a
tour
of
the
historic
city
hall
and
the
committee
asked
if
all
of
the
City
Council
was
going
to
be
participating.
I
said
I,
don't
know
any
details,
so
that
was
just
a
question
that
was
asked
of
me.
The
one
thing,
though,
that
did
come
up
and
I
saw
that
the
reconstruction
of
the
wall.
Yes,.
F
B
D
B
F
I
F
Also,
the
the
vietnam
war
committee
has
been
trying
to
set
up
a
conference,
call
to
arrange
for
the
dignitaries
or
who
is
coming
in
and
so
on,
like
that
they
haven't
had
any
success
in
connecting
and
asked
if
we
wouldn't,
how
would
maybe
call
get
a
hold
of
jerry
and
find
out
if
we
can
get
something
going
conference
call
through
to
see
who
in
fact
is
coming
what
security
might
be
required
if
they
for
the
governor,
and
this
all
like
that.
So
could
we
place
that
phone
for
sure
that
asks
us
to
do
that?
You.
H
F
F
E
C
Good
anything
else
for
the
no.
I
I
The
lighting
of
the
tree
has
always
been
the
first
friday
in
december.
At
first
it
was
a
simple
program
with
a
school
group
singing
some
carols.
The
sound
system
was
supplied
by
a
member
of
the
business
alliance.
Some
years
ago,
the
downtown
Merchants
Association
came
to
the
city
and
asked
that
that
tree
be
moved
to
Hector
park.
I
In
december,
two
thousand
four,
my
wife
and
I
visited
celebration
florida
and
witnessed
the
snow
show
that
they
have
its
each
night
between
thanksgiving
in
New
Year's
every
night.
They
close
one
block
in
the
city
and
they
have
it
every
hour
on
the
hour,
its
nose
down
this
whole
block,
and
it
is
awesome
if
you
had
never
been
there,
you
should
try.
It
I
told
my
wife
that
the
next
year
in
2005
punta
gorda,
was
going
to
have
snow
at
their
Christmas
lighting.
I
I
Now
I
understand
that
the
dma
wants
to
move
the
lighting
date
to
before
thanksgiving,
and
you
know
when
I
was
in
college,
I
must
have
been
asleep
during
marketing
101
because
it
obviously
they
want
to
have
this
on
the
thursday
before
thanksgiving
the
gallery
walk.
So
they
have
one
event
where,
if
you
had
it
on
the
gallery,
walk
and
they
have
the
Christmas
lighting
in
December.
They'd
have
two
events.
So,
there's
something
wrong
with
their
marketing
philosophy:
I'm
asking
you
to
continue
the
lighting
of
the
tree
on
the
first
Friday
of
December.
I
C
L
L
C
L
Not
I
do
have
I
do
have
one
more
serious,
a
serious
thought
that
I'd
like
like
to
shoot.
I'm
sorry-
and
this
is
a
to
all
of
you,
but
also
with
a
little
bit
of
emphasis
to
David,
with
his
proceedings
relative
to
our
watershed,
I'm
going
to
be
attending
this
month
as
Howard
is
aware-
and
karen
has
told
me
that
I
have
the
authority
to
do
so.
L
L
Hopefully
I'll
also
be
able
to
share
some
comments
on
an
environmental
issue
here
with
us
and
the
next
meeting
and
so
forth,
but
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
idea
that
that
is
something
that
we
I
think
need
to
keep
in
the
back
of
our
minds
for
the
future
community
that
we
have
yeah.
That's
it
appreciate.