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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 11-01-17 Part 2
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C
B
On
back,
okay,
now
we
are
in
the
regular
agenda.
So
now
would
be
the
time
if
you
would
like
to
speak
on
any
one
of
these
items:
the
award
of
the
agreement
to
Newburgh
construction,
the
Harborwalk
Gilchrist
park,
playground,
restroom,
the
FY,
2018
department,
performance
measures,
Seewald
repair
by
homeowners,
reconsideration
of
medical
marijuana
treatment,
center,
dispensing
facilities,
the
city
manager,
the
CRA
vacancy
and
the
city
clerk
evaluation.
If
you
would
like
to
speak
on
any
one
of
those,
now
would
be
the
time.
Please
make
your
way
to
this
podium.
You
have
three
minutes.
D
Good
morning
my
name
is
Rebecca:
Krekorian
I
live
on
Francesca
Court,
my
husband
and
I
are
one
of
the
homeowners
who
have
requested
that
we
go
ahead
and
do
the
seawall
repair
on
our
own
I.
Just
have
several
questions,
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
answer
right
away,
but
since
we
are,
we
have
given
a
deposit
for
contract
to
do
so,
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
city
would
have
provided
if
there
had
not
been
a
storm,
if
you
were
coming
to
repair
or
replace
our
seawall.
D
That's
number
one
number
two
I'd
like
to
know
based
on
the
emails
we've
been,
we've
been
fortunate
enough
to
get
the
weekly
emails
from
Nancy
and
from
Lynn
Matthews.
So
we
read,
even
though
we
were
in
New
Jersey
during
the
storm
we
read
about
the
updates
and
everything
that
was
going
on.
The
initial
email
said
that
you
were
going
to
be
only
providing
the
seawall
itself.
D
E
Morning,
yes,
my
name
is
Richard
Rossi
I
live
on
Parisian
Court
and
you
know:
I
have
made
it
clear:
the
emails
to
Kathy
Miller
or
the
supervisor
of
Canal
maintenance
that
you
know
I
am
really
not
willing
to
wait
or
not.
Yeah
I
don't
find
it
necessary
to
wait
for
the
city
to
respond.
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
with
an
independent
contractor,
I'm
willing
to
hold
the
city.
Harmless
I
expect
no
reimbursement.
E
E
F
Gets
historic
district
I
want
to
thank
city
staff,
the
playground,
restroom
issue
came
up.
You
guys
Howard.
Thank
you.
You
acted.
You
got
on
it.
The
velocity
zone.
Removal
is
just
a
great
thing.
Thank
you
for
proceeding
without
waiting
for
the
hundred
eighty
day
comment
period.
This
is
the
premier
Park
in
this
city,
used
by
so
many
people
and,
of
course,
I
live
a
hundred
feet
away
from
it.
So
I
really
appreciate
I
appreciate
it
on
my
neighbor's
appreciate
what
you
have
done,
let's
get
these
restrooms
done.
Thank
you.
B
Anybody
else
like
to
speak
on
the
regular
agenda,
make
your
way
to
the
podium.
Okay,
seeing
none.
We
will
move
into
the
first
item
of
business
under
budget
and
I
would
just
like
to
disclose
that
my
husband
was
a
bitter
on
this
project.
So
I
will
be
removing
myself
and
I
will
be
filling
out.
The
proper
paperwork
for
not
voting
on
this
matter
and
Gary
will
conduct
the
order
of
business
and
I
will
be
back.
C
H
I
Morning,
Mary
and
pace
procurement
manager
for
the
record.
We
had
that
same
concern
and
we
did
follow
up
with
new
Tom
Tyler
Newburgh
resident
of
new
Birkin
stone
construction
services
and
asked
them
why
they
were
much
so
much
less
than
the
other
bidders
and
he
replied
that
once
he
saw
the
tabulation
posted
him
and
his
staff,
they
ran
the
numbers
again.
They
said
that
number
is
good
and
they're.
I
I
C
I
G
A
J
J
What
staff
is
requesting
here
is
permission
to
proceed
with
engineering
costs
to
redesign
the
previously
designed
restroom
facility,
basically
we'll
be
looking
at
building
calculations
and
plan
modifications
to
account
for
the
change
in
the
flood
zone
designate
and
those
funds
are
$8,000
from
the
engineer.
After.
A
B
J
J
The
the
engineer
of
record
has
stated
that
the
the
second
portion
of
the
park,
the
area
B,
as
was
discussed
in
the
the
February
17
council,
meeting,
that
that
area
can
proceed
at
this
point
that
this
is
an
appropriate
time
to
start.
But
he
really
needs
the
as-built
survey
from
the
completion
of
area
long.
So
we're
still
waiting
on
that
as
built
survey,
so
that
he
can
actually
do
the
the
work
of
applying
for
the
library
from
a
provision
for
the
second
area
of
the
park.
B
So
when
we
do
get
the
as
bill,
can
we
get
a
timeline
update
on
when
we
may
get
that
lomar
and
we
could
start
construction
on
the
second
set
of
restrooms,
just
so
everybody's
on
the
same
page?
Certainly
as
far
as
timelines
go
helping
questions
for
Mitchell,
so
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
appropriation
motion
to
approve
second
motion.
Second:
to
approve
the
appropriation
for
the
restrooms,
all
in
favor
opposed
carried
unanimously.
So
this
is
just
the
appropriation
to
redesign
and
then
we'll
be
looking
at.
C
B
C
B
A
Just
have
a
question
sure
on
the
top
of
page
three
question:
it
is
a
comment
under
urban
design,
so
that
may
be
something
that
that
Joan
can
can
answer.
Is
the
new
highway
commercial
area?
Is
that
included
in
the
wording
here
because
I
didn't
see
that
specifically
mentioned,
but
I
was
looking
for
that
and
I
assumed.
Maybe
that
was
but
I.
K
K
E
G
L
Good
morning,
mark
Deering,
Public
Works,
as
you've
heard
from
a
couple
residents
this
morning,
we've
been
asked
by
what
was
a
few
but
is
growing
now
I
think
we
got
three.
Last
week's,
so
a
handful
of
residents
have
requested
permission
to
build
their
own
sea
walls.
Some
have
asked
about
reimbursement
and
others
have
said
they
wanted
to
bear
that
cost
entirely.
L
First,
those
folks
that
were
requesting
this
were
those
that
we
considered
severe
and
will
be
on
the
first
phase
of
repairs.
But
we
are
also
hearing
from
folks
who
are
in
the
middle
tier,
who
probably
won't
see
a
seawall
for
810
months
a
year
and
a
half
somewhere
in
that
phase,
they're
also
looking
to
pay
for
their
own
seawall
repairs.
L
So
we've
we
initial
concerns
were
that
we
want
this
seawall
if
this
is
allowed,
that
the
seawall
be
the
same
seawall
that
we
have
throughout
the
city,
because
they
will
continue
to
maintain
this,
the
seawall
would
remain
in
the
district.
The
homeowners
would
continue
to
pay
into
the
canal
maintenance
fund
and
our
initial
thoughts
were,
rather
than
have
them
construct
a
seawall
panel
that
we
would
have
to
inspect
and
to
be
certain
that
they
have
put
the
proper
steel
in
it,
and
we
use
a
high-quality
steel
rather
than
the
inexpensive
rebar.
L
We
thought
that
giving
the
homeowners
the
panels
that
we
already
have
produced
would
probably
be
the
best
solution
for
us
and
for
them
and
the
going
forward
for
the
seawall
itself,
the
work
for
the
cap
and
the
rest
of
that
we
would
send
inspectors
out
and
they
could
inspect
that
it
wouldn't
require
that
it
be
our
seawall
contractor
or
any
of
our
materials.
It's
all
common
materials
that
we
could
just
oversee
that
they
constructed
it
properly.
L
They
want
to
make
sure
that
we
distinguish
that
this
is
city
property
and
that
homeowners
property
and
we
think
we
could
be
a
year
two
years
before
we
actually
get
final
determination
from
FEMA
that
it's
absolutely
okay
to
to
allow
the
homeowners
but
the
the
original
conversation.
The
initial
conversation
from
the
the
field
level
FEMA
personnel,
was
that
it
certainly
couldn't
be
reimbursed
to
the
city
any
costs
that
we
costs,
that
we
bore
or
that
residence
bore
through
this
private
repair
of
the
seawall
and
we're
here
to
discuss
it
and
take
your
direction.
L
I
could
add
that
I
did
speak
to
the
Board
of
Realtors
yesterday
and
they
had
a
couple
of
concerns.
One
was
that
there's
many
people
who
are
selling
their
homes
and
this
their
home
sale
is
contingent
on
whether
or
not
this
the
seawall
is
repaired.
They
asked
that
could
they
be
moved
up
in
priority
if
their
home
was
for
sale,
and
the
other
request
was
that
the
city
provides
some
sort
of
relief
or
assurance
that
will
help
them
close
on
their
loans
for
these
homes
and
I.
B
L
Little
difference
in
our
initial
intention:
the
the
differences
are
that
in
our
normal
seawall
contracts,
the
contractor
that
we've
had
has
always
gone
above
and
beyond,
what's
required
by
the
contract
in
taking
care
of
the
person's
property
a
little
better
than
what
is
absolutely
required
by
our
our
codes
and
ordinances.
For
instance,
a
sprinkler
head
might
be
there,
and
rather
cap
it
off,
like
he's
required
to
do,
he
may
go
purchase
a
new
sprinkler
head
and
put
it
in
for
them.
He
may
position
their
gate
or
some
private
property.
They
had
near
the
seawall
work.
L
He
may
take
that
and
put
it
back
in
place
a
little
bit,
so
he
would.
He
would
go
above
and
beyond
what
we
required
by
the
contract,
we're
not
promising
that
in
this
new
contract,
where
we
don't
know
the
bidders,
we
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
do
and
to
give
a
pay
item
for
something
like
that
gets
way
too
complex.
It
certainly
isn't
reimbursed
by
FEMA.
So
we're
gonna
stick
strictly
to
the
city
code,
which
requires
that
the
homeowners
take
care
of
all
of
their
personal
property.
L
L
Take
care
of
all
of
the
erosion
related
to
the
seawall
failure
and
one
other
point
that
we're
still
waiting
for
determination
on
is
that
for
many
years
now
we
have
replaced
sea
walls
from
property
line
to
property
line
going
back
10
years.
Our
further
we
were
replacing
seawall
only
where
it
failed,
and
then
we
changed
our
direction
and
we
went
property
line
to
property
line.
B
M
I
was
have
attended
to
the
last,
the
the
meeting
of
the
Canal
District
and,
and
there
was
consensus
among
some
members
that
that
that
that
the
district
be
able
to
allow
Public
Works
to
be
able
to
do
whatever
necessary
words
and
control.
I
was
wondering,
if
it's
possible,
that
we
view
this
as
two
different
things:
Rosen
control
and
seawall
and
I
say
this,
because
I've
seen
so
many
catastrophic
cases
that
I
almost
feel
that
our
real
focus
should
be
erosion,
control
and
see.
M
Example,
I'm
like
on
what
TR
rick
have
mentioned
before,
if
their
need
to
put
pieces
of
steel
with
the
fill
whatever's
needed
to
prevent
the
lander
falling
in,
because
the
thing
is
that
you
remember
how
prana
corrals
was
constructed,
it
was
constructed.
Basically
it
was,
it
was
laying
mangrove
land
and
so
the
land
is
basically
reclaimed
land.
M
It's
also
held
up
by
the
sea
walls,
and
so
they
don't
just
hold
back
the
water,
the
exit
hole
to
land
up,
and
so
I
think
that
we
have
to
understand
that
it's
not
simply
seawall
reconstruction
that
we're
actually
looking
at
really
pretty
much
holding
the
stability
of
this
part
of
the
city
together
and
I.
Think
they're.
Really.
We
have
to
view
it
with
that
kind
of
seriousness
that
we
really
should
say.
Rosen
control
is
our
first
concern:
Ben
Seewald
secondary.
That's
just
my
thing,
which.
B
Would
probably
erosion
control
I
would
guess
would
fall
outside
because
they
said
when
we
met
with
them
all
about
the
structure
kind
of
thing,
all
about
the
integrity
of
the
structure
and
not
the
pool,
not
the
pool
foundation,
it's
the
integrity
of
the
home,
the
structure
itself.
So
if
we
did
go
that
route
that
would
be
within
you
know
the
city's
budget,
not
with
not
anything,
that's
reimbursable
from
FEMA
yeah.
M
Yeah
cuz
cuz.
My
fear,
is
that
if
I'm
just
hearing
from
residents
that
we
could
be
running
into
a
much
bigger
macro
issue,
if
enough,
people's
killed,
pools
and
homes
were
to
basically
fall
into
the
canal.
Based
on
this
I.
Just
think
that
the
Rosen
controlled
is
something
that
we
have
to
view
as
its
own
thing,
because
I
think
some
of
our
seawall
conversation
is.
It
feels
good,
but
I
think
that
this
one
use
people's
property
is
such
in
such
a
danger
that
we
have
to
really
understand.
H
First
I
would
like
to
ask:
is:
is
there
something
that
you
can
provide
to
us
in
writing?
That
is
a
list
of
what
the
city's
responsibility
is
in
terms
of
a
normal
seawall
replacement
project,
in
other
words,
you're
saying
that
the
city
is
responsible
for
the
seawall
and
the
seawall
cap.
The
homeowner
is
responsible
for
this,
and
this
and
this-
and
this
cos
there's
something
in
writing
that
says
all
of
that
and
spells
it
out
very
clearly.
We've.
L
H
Mean
I
keep
getting
questions
too.
People
are
saying
well
I've
heard
that
the
current
contract
that
mcg
does
they
go
ahead
and
replace
all
of
that
stuff
when
they
put
the
new
seawall
in
I
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
clearly
understanding
of.
What's
going
on
with
what
their
responsibilities
will
be,
I
mean
just
because
mcg
does
that
doesn't
mean
that
that's
the
way
it's
supposed
to
be
handled
they're,
doing
it
out
of
the
goodness
of
their
heart,
and
god
bless
them
for
doing
that.
H
But
I
know
that
all
the
other
subcontractors
may
not
end
up
working
on
that
agenda
and,
secondly,
I
have
a
real
problem
with
the
potential
issues
that
could
arise
from
allowing
homeowners
to
do
their
own
seawall
repairs,
but
for
the
consistency
standpoint
for
the
issue
of
possibly
jeopardizing
the
FEMA
reimbursement,
contract
I
have
a
really
intense
dislike
for
this
whole
idea.
I
think
I
understand
that
there
are
people
that
have
much
more
severe
circumstances
than
others
and
I
sympathize.
H
I
truly
do
I
lost
my
seat
while
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
it's
and
that
wasn't
hurricane
related,
but
it
is
devastating
and,
and
you
go
into
tailspin
mode,
you
don't
know
what
to
do
and
how
to
handle
it,
but
at
the
same
time
I
think
I
think
for
the
consistency
standpoint
and
for
the
whole
FEMA
reimbursement
issue.
We
really
need
to
be
cognizant
that
this
could
be
a
problem
if
we
approve
it.
A
Yeah
I
had
a
couple
of
thoughts.
One
is
we're
using
the
word
there
or
my
seawall,
and
these
sea
walls
are
owned
by
the
city.
So
it's
when
I
look
at
this.
It's
it's
the
sea,
walls
that
are
at
the
property.
It's
not
really
their
individual,
neurs,
seawall
and
I've.
Had
residents
actually
comment
to
me
about
this
that
this
would
be
similar
to
us
deciding.
We
don't
think
the
city's
repairing
our
road
fast
enough,
and
so
we
want
to
have
a
private
contractor
come
out
here
and
resurface,
our
cul-de-sac
or
whatever.
A
A
Feel
for
the
resident,
who
has
a
severe
erosion
issue
and
I
think
that
you
know
anything
we
can
do
to
control
erosion
in
the
interim.
I
think
we
should
and
that's
just
something
we
I
think
we
have
an
obligation
to
try
to
do,
but
as
far
as
the
overall
integrity
of
the
program,
I
would
hate
to
see
us
allowing
homeowners
starting
to
to
do
this
and
all
of
a
sudden.
Now
we
have
this.
This
mess
on
our
hands
of
contractors,
interfering
with
contractors
and
and
city
staff,
while
city
staff
is,
is
I.
A
Think
burdened
with
trying
to
do
the
best
job
and
get
this
program
going
as
fast
as
possible,
but
now
you're
being
detoured
by
having
to
pay
attention
to
other
inspections
and
I,
just
see
that
the
potential
for
adding
on
to
this
becoming
a
a
mess
and
so
I
feel
for
the
resident
who's
whose
property
is
it's
compromised.
Mine
is,
but
you
know
it's
I'm
I'm
willing
to
wait.
A
G
To
pay
some
time,
it's
obviously
relative
to
what
Mark
was
saying
for
the
residents
that
wanted
to
repair
their
own
sea
walls
and
our
supplying
the
seawall
material
itself,
so
that
we
could
have
control
and
so
forth
of
that
I
think
that's
all
well,
and
good
and
I
have
full
confidence
that,
from
a
managerial
standpoint,
the
city
could
see
to
it
that
the
sea
walls
were
done
in
an
appropriate
way.
However,
the
quandary
is
is
that
we
were
looking
at
jeopardizing.
G
Is
my
fault
council
person's
point
out
18
million
dollars
worth
of
reimbursement
based
on
what
we
think
now
and
I
just
want
to
put
these
things
in
perspective.
What
we
heard
mark
saying
is:
is
they
oppose
this?
The
FEMA
it
may
take
a
year?
I
would
hope
that
there
would
be
some
way,
maybe
to
speed
him
up
to
help
us
come
to
a
resolution
or
an
agreement
to
do
that.
G
So
what
I
would
say
is
is,
from
my
perspective,
I
would
ask
our
city
staff
and
and
mark
in
particular,
to
try
to
press
FEMA
on
this
issue
so
that
we
could
accommodate
the
the
citizens
we
have.
That
would
like
to
take
a
proactive
approach
on
there
on
their
own
nickel
and
we
would
supply
material
and
make
sure
that
was
done
properly.
But
until
that's
the
case,
I
don't
feel
that
we
can,
as
I
get
a
sense
from
all
of
us,
jeopardize
an
extra
18
million-dollar
with
the
tab
that
the
city
might
have
to
eat.
G
Just
on
a
personal
level,
we
were
given
some
assistance
through
FEMA
on
the
with
a
loan,
and
then
the
loan
was
pulled
halfway
through
the
project
because
of
a
misunderstanding
of
finances
and
then
it
was
reimbursed
and
then
it
was
reinstated,
but
you
still
had
to
jump
through
all
those
hoops.
They
have
very
strict
linear,
non-negotiable
fences
that
they
deal
with
and
I
applaud,
city
staff
and
mark
and
all
you
guys
for
negotiating
this
maze
and
we
need,
like
I,
said
my.
G
N
B
C
B
L
We
completed
our
initial
inspection
yesterday
and
we
intend
to
have
a
prioritization
map
by
the
end
of
the
week
that
will
have
everybody
rated
with
a
failure
as
a
one,
two
or
three
high
priority
medium
priority
or
low
priority.
Those
priorities
are
determined
those
people
who
we
visited
or
have
reported,
or
we
have
photos
of
very
distinct
erosion
problems,
we'll
be
the
high
priority
folks,
most
of
the
folks
that
have
picked
up
sandbags,
those
kinds
of
things,
those
are
the
high
priority
people
and
those
will
be
in
the
first
pass
of
the
contract.
L
We
expect
the
contract
to
the
bid
opens
the
17th
of
November
and
we
think
the
award
will
happen.
Early
December,
mid
December
will
be
getting
the
contractors
moving
into
the
area
they
will.
Then
the
contract
for
each
area
will
then
supply
us
a
map
of
how
they're
going
to
approach
their
high-priority
projects.
L
What
order
they're
going
to
tackle
them
in
they're
going
to
look
at
the
the
logistics
of
how
to
move
in
the
area
where
they're
going
to
mobilize
and
do
their
own
selection
of
everything
within
that
priority
and
give
us
a
tentative
schedule
for
those
high
priority
cases,
then
they'll
move
on
to
the
medium
and
low
priorities.
The
low
priorities
are
simply
going
to
be
those
vacant,
lots
that
have
really
no
effect,
except
for
the
Realtors
who
reminded
me
they
may
be
having
a
home
plan
for
building
on
them
sometime
in
the
future.
L
But
for
us
right
now
our
intention
is
vacant.
Lots
that
are
not
adjacent
any
homes
that
have
failures
will
be
very
last.
The
typical
seawall
failure
where
the
seawall
has
dropped
the
foot.
You
may
see
a
little
dirt
out
there,
but
we
think,
though
most
the
majority
of
those
will
remain
intact.
Until
we
get
there
see
walls
replaced
they'll.
Just
it's.
You
know
not
safe
to
be
out
on
the
seawall,
but
we
don't
think
they're
gonna
collapse.
L
Any
further
may
have
a
few,
but
not
many
of
them,
and
if
I
could
go
into
a
moment's
discussion
on
the
erosion
from
the
very
beginning,
erosion
was
our
number
one
concern.
We
have
to
make
sure
we
know
the
sea
walls
are
a
year
two
years
off
before
we
repair
them.
Our
crews
have
been
working
continuously,
not
sure
we
got
any
out
there
today,
but
they
were
working
on
Monday
and
yesterday
on
erosion
problems.
We
have
those
that
we've
tracked
through
resident
calls
or
that
we
discovered
ourselves
we're
doing
sandbags,
visqueen
tarps,
relocating
gutter
pipes.
L
That
seems
to
be
the
vast
majority
of
what
needed
to
be
done
immediately.
We
have
out
for
bid
right
now,
two
different
methods
for
erosion
control,
and
we
were
directed
to
do
this
through
the
canal
Advisory
Committee.
They
said
they
didn't
mind
expending
their
funds,
for
that
one
of
them
is
called
bio,
matrix
fiber,
it's
like
a
hydro
mulch,
where
they
used
to
spray
grass
seed
and
the
green
stuff
fertilizer
on
the
ground.
L
Well,
they've
got
a
mixture
of
that
that
they
mix
with
wood
chips
and
glue,
and
it
lasts
for
a
year
on
the
ground,
holds
everything
together.
They
use
it
for
hazardous
waste
containment.
So
we're
looking
at
that,
and
we
also
have
something.
It's
called
a
sock.
Someone
in
our
office
described
it
more
like
a
dirt
taco,
they
take
a
special
membrane
and
they
lay
it
and
stake
it
on
the
ground.
L
Up
on
the
upland
side
of
the
the
sea
wall,
failure
they
drape
it
down
into
the
water,
they
fill,
they
pull
that
back
up
and
they
fill
that
area
with
not
completely
full
of
dirt,
but
enough
dirt
that
that
remains
an
anchor
there
and
then
they
fold
the
top
back
over
it.
So
it's
kind
of
like
a
taco
wrapping
around
the
dirt
and
they
stake
that
back
into
the
ground
now
that
they
use
it
all
over
the
country
for
sort
for
natural
shorelines
and
it's
a
permanent
solution
for
natural
shorelines.
L
L
Different
places,
different
things,
some
places,
both
things,
the
ones
where
we'll
be
using
the
sock
is
those
who's.
Sea
walls
have
fallen
completely
away
and
they
have
that
Shore
line
erosion.
When
the
boats
go
by
they,
you
can
see
the
dirts
moving
every
time
the
vote
goes
by,
those
will
be
getting
a
sock
and
then,
depending
on
what
the
the
ground
upland
from
that
is,
we
may
be
spraying
it
with
the
bio
matrix
fiber
as
well.
C
C
O
C
O
Would
see
no
problem
if
the
city
was
to
draft
a
generic
form
letter
outlining
the
city's
districts
responsibilities
with
respect
to
sea
wall
replacement
and
repair,
identifying
our
basis
for
prioritizing
how
those
are
going
to
be
done
and
providing
some
measure
of
assurance
that
at
some
point
in
time,
the
seawall
for
any
property
will
be
replaced
or
repaired
without
providing
any
particular
time
frame
and
indicating?
Ultimately,
it
would
be
up
to
the
city
discretion
as
to
when
that
would
be
accomplished.
O
O
More
full
to
a
realtor
or
to
a
buyer,
to
have
something
from
the
city,
at
least
assuring
them
that
at
some
point
in
time,
if
they're
in
the
district,
it
will
be
replaced
and
repaired.
I
think
that
provides
some
measure
of
comfort
to
a
prospective
buyer
than
just
listening
to
a
realtor,
making
those
assurances,
but
it
would
have
the
appropriate.
You
know
caveats
in
it
and
I
think
we'd
also
I
I,
don't
know
that
we
need
to
go
into
anything
more
in
terms
of
funding
and
just
say
that,
ultimately,
it's
the
discretion.
It
could
be.
A
Comment:
question
remark
relative
to
the
bidding
process
and
I
understand
that
marine
contracting
group
takes
a
two-week
hiatus
at
the
holiday
season
because
of
the
severity
of
the
issue
and
our
sense
of
urgency.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
assure
that
the
contractors
will
work
through
the
holiday
season
and
start
once
they
once
they
start?
We
will
work
and
not
take
an
immediate
break
as.
L
L
All
of
that
sort
of
thing,
so
we
do
have
stipulations
in
the
contract
that
they
have
to
make
continual
progress
and
that's
defined,
as
whatever
portion
of
work
that
they're
doing
that
they
get
that
a
week's
worth
of
done.
A
week's
worth
of
work
done
every
week
rather
than
just
dragging
the
feet
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
month,
bringing
three
crews
in
and
doing
a
month's
worth
of
work.
They
have
to
make
continual
progress.
L
C
B
H
Two
quick
things
I'd
like
to
maybe
back
up
what
Nancy
said
earlier
about
the
boat
wakes,
because
that
is
a
problem.
We
have
had
an
enormous
amount.
I
live
on
the
rim,
canal
and
I
got
to
tell
you
they're,
not
watching
the
wake
when
they're
going
by
my
house,
and
there
we've
got
several
properties
just
on
my
street
that
lost
their
seawall.
That's
a
really
crucial
piece
of
the
puzzle
because
that's
going
to
continue
to
cause
erosion
throughout
the
canal
system,
I
think.
H
Maybe
we
need
to
get
more
marine
patrol
out
there
on
a
regular
basis
and
if
that
means
bringing
in
Bill
Gunther's
team
to
patrol
during
the
day,
if
we
can
get
them
out
there
to
help
just
the
fact
that
the
boat
is
on
the
water
and
visible
slows
the
people
down
in
the
wake
and
and
especially
on
the
weekends
we're
now
starting
to
see
seasonal
people
arrive.
The
I'm
gonna
tell
you
I
hate
to
sound
this
way
that
the
people
that
don't
live
here
year-round
are
the
worst
offenders
of
the
wake
system.
H
I'm
also
concerned
that
mcg
is
out
there
giving
individual
bids
to
people
right
now
when
they
know
that
the
city
owns
the
sea
walls.
It
does
bother
me
a
lot
and
I
think
that,
depending
upon
how
we
vote
on
this
today,
I
think
that
they
should
be
contacted
and
told
that
they
shouldn't
be
doing
that,
since
the
sea
walls
are
owned
by
the
city,
I
think
that
they
need
to
understand
that
they
can't
be
bidding
individual
contracts
for
people.
That
bothers
me
a
lot
if.
L
I
could
speak
on
that
we've
been
in
very
close
contact
with
mcg.
They
called
us
when
they
first
got
their
first
phone
call.
They've
called
us
all
along
in
our
wrist
to
them.
Was
we've
heard
a
lot
of
these
requests.
Please
put
one
in
writing
so
that
we
can
move
forward
and
get
this
to
counsel
and
actually
know
that
people
are
serious
about
making
this
expensive
moving
forward.
L
So
I,
don't
think
they're
out
there
doing
that,
trying
to
sell
seawalls
to
people
they're
they're,
trying
to
just
keep
their
phone
from
ringing
off
the
hook
and
appease
customers
who
are
begging
them
to
do
this
work.
I
haven't
spoken
to
any
other
contractors
on
it,
but
mcg
has
been
very
forthright
and.
G
N
N
You
know,
and
we
had
five
million
dollars
prior
to
that.
There
was
the
no
named
storm
in
2003,
Dave,
I,
think
about
three
three
and
then
her
and
then
tropical
storm
Gabriel.
So
so
we
have
a
history,
were
we
are
working
with
FEMA?
The
FEMA
is
watching
us
very
closely.
Yes,
I
got
a
phone
call
yesterday
they
wanted
to
know
what
was
going
on.
They
wanted
to
know.
Is
it
true,
or
is
it
a
rumor
that
you
are
going
to
be
accepting
contributions
and
that
you
are
going
to
be
changing?
N
The
method
of
your
seawalls
and
I
said
I
will
check
with
Public
Works
and
of
course,
I
spoke
with
mark
so
they're
reading
our
newspapers
and
they're
listening
to
people
who
are
calling
them.
What
we
all
need
to
remember
is
that
the
whole
Stafford
Act,
which
is
a
congressional
act
that
is
funding
this
program,
is
all
built
on
public
assistance.
It's
for
public
welfare.
You
know
protection
of
Health
and
Safety.
It
is
not
protection
of
private
property,
and
so
that's
the
mantra
we're
just
so
used
to
every
time
they
come.
N
It's
restoring
you
to
the
pre-storm
conditions,
restoring
you
to
pre-storm
conditions.
You
cannot
change
what
you're
doing
we've
dealt
with
that
when
we
lost
our
public
facility,
you
know
for
Public,
Works
and
fleet,
and
we
went
to
a
different
location.
We
lost
all
funding.
We
knew
that
we
did
that
intentionally
because
we
knew
you
know
we
didn't
want
to
build
back
in
a
floodplain
and
we
didn't
want
that
facility
in
that
location.
So
we
did
that.
But
when
they
say
oh
here,
you
might
be
using
steel
panels
where
they
hear
that
from
no.
N
We
have
an
engineered
design.
That
says
we
use
concrete
to
sit.
You
know
concrete
panels
with
this
much
rebar,
so
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
all
of
that
they
will
be
bringing
in
all
their
own
field
inspectors
to
examine
everything,
everything
and
and
Miss
that
may
be
random
audit,
or
they
may
decide
to
go
more
in
depth
and
that's
their
purview
and,
and
that
is
them
protecting
federal
money.
We
want
them
to
do
that,
because
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
has
no
intention
of
misrepresenting
what
we're
doing
at
all.
N
B
O
No
FEMA,
or
has
the
discussion
with
FEMA,
been
had
with
respect
to
if
a
property
owner
wishes
to
pay
for
the
cost
of
installation
and
removal
of
the
steel
panels
on
a
temporary
basis
until
the
city's
replaces
the
seawall.
Whether
FEMA
has
any
objection
to
that,
because
we
won't
be
seeking
those
costs
from
the.
N
First
conversation
that
Dave
and
I
had
with
them
on
telephone
was
not
that
one,
but
it
was
about
the
whole
erosion
issue,
and
this
is
just
how
cautious
and,
as
you
said,
linear
FEMA
is
public
public
public.
So
when
we
just
even
talked
about
erosion,
they
said
protection
of
private
property
and
then
there
was
just
silence
so
private.
N
Is
gonna
always
be
a
no
and
I'm
gonna
finish
the
rest
of
your
question.
So
then,
when
we
met
with
them
in
person,
we
had
Public
Works
staff,
which
is
just
so
excellent
to
have
you
know
all
of
our
experts
there
and
we
had
our
Maps
FEMA
was
truly
impressed
that
this
is
not
something
that
we
do
once
in
a
while.
O
O
If
a
property
owner
wanted
to
put
in
their
own
steel
panel
temporarily
to
maintain
status
quo
until
their
seawall
was
replaced
and
agreed
to
pay
for
the
cost
of
the
installation
and
pay
for
the
cost
of
the
removal
of
that
steel
panel.
It
would
sound
to
me
that
FEMA
may
not
have
any
FEMA
may
not
have
an
objection,
because
it's
not
involving
the
seawall
itself
and.
N
That
question
has
not
been
posed
to
them,
they're
very
clear
about
public
property
versus
private
property,
and
they
understand
that
whatever
is
done,
I
guess
what
you
want
to
call
upland
closer
to
their
property,
not
city
property,
I
believe
they
will
just
have
no
comment.
The
question
has
not
been
asked.
Thank.
B
If,
if
they
don't
have
a,
how
do
we
know
that
they're
not
gonna
come
and
claw
back
or
D
obligate
or
you
know,
I
know
that
what
we
could
say
is
that
well,
this
was
a
private
property
situation
that
that
occurred
and
that
didn't
interfere
or
have
anything
to
do
with
our
public
reinstallation
of
the
seawall.
That
could
be
our
case,
but
I
mean.
O
B
G
M
Actually
why
I
was
saying
we
if
we
talked
about
it,
two
different
things,
Rosen
control
and
see:
well,
it's
just
their
separate
thing
so
that
we
don't
even
get
into
seawall
world
to
see
what
world
Escrima
world
we
don't
just
don't
interfere
with
that
at
all.
So
this
is
just
one
way:
even
how
we
discuss
it.
We
don't
even
discuss
it.
M
C
B
H
B
G
G
I
wasn't
I
wasn't
watching
as
I
was
speaking.
I
wanted
to
take
an
opportunity
today
and
I
want
to
do
it
now,
instead
of
waiting
to
the
end
the
to
compliment
our
staff
and,
in
this
case
also
Howard,
the
hauler.
If
you
take
a
this-
is
Lakes
Park
in
Fort
Myers
on
Sunday.
This
is
where
they're
at
in
their
debris,
removal
our
whole
staff,
whether
it's
procurement,
all
the
way
to
to
Rick's
guys
and
Howard,
the
hauler
and
so
forth.
G
We
were
so
far
ahead
of
the
ball,
mm-hmm
and
I,
think
it
just
needs,
and-
and
we
had
we
had
constituents
that
were
complaining
to
us
about
on
day
three,
why
we
had
why
they
were
still
waiting
and
I
learned
that
I
was
the
last
black
scheduled,
but
they
didn't
miss
one
black.
So
I
was
the
only
the
second,
the
last
block
to
be
cleared,
but
I
just
want
to
say
you
don't
have
to
go
very
far
from
Punta
Gorda.
G
You
only
have
to
go
down
Mar
Olympia
on
the
way
out
to
the
Botanical,
which
I
suggest
everybody
do
that's
another
system.
You
will
see
that
the
county
is
way
behind
the
our
neighboring
neighbors
are
way
behind
and
I
just
wanted
to
take
another
opportunity
to
thank
staff
and
their
competency
and
their
our
tenacity
and
I
think
this
is
just
another
case
where
we
need
to
as
a
council
follow.
K
C
B
C
H
Asked
for
this
to
be
put
back
on
the
agenda,
because
I
just
feel
that
we
are
violating
the
state
statute
as
it
was
put
into
place.
We
are
violating
the
intent
of
the
voters
and
with
all
these
surrounding
communities
that
are
going
forward
with
ordinances
to
allow
the
dispensaries
I
think
that
we
should
reconsider
this
and
I
wanted
it
back
on
the
agenda.
So
we
could
discuss
it
again.
The
fact
that
Charlotte
County
has
now
approved
them,
Lee
County,
has
approved
them.
Collier
County
is
shortly
to
do
so
and
Northport
have
approved
them.
H
You
know
we
actually
stand
the
chance
of
having
one
on
forty
one
in
a
vacant
storefront
at
this
point
in
unincorporated
Charlotte
County,
but
in
the
in
the
area
of
Punta
Gorda
address,
so
our
intent
might
have
unintended
consequences
by
not
doing
something
and
being
proactive
about
this.
So
I
would
like
us
to
talk
about
it
again.
I'd
like
to
see
us
be
a
leader
and
not
a
follower
on
this
issue.
M
One
thing
I
I
spoke
to
commissioner
about
why
this
came
up
last
week.
It
came
up
because
it
was
a
second
reading
and
didn't
come
up
because
it
was
a
reconsideration.
It
came
up
simply
that
moms
had
passed
and
they
hadn't
done.
The
second
reading
I
had
a
few
slides.
I
I
wanted
to
show
regard
to
this,
because
I
went
to
the
medical.