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From YouTube: Punta Gorda City Council 11 19 14 Part 3
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D
D
B
A
A
G
E
B
Okay,
so
to
wrap
up
the
sales
tax
discussion,
we're
going
to
get
an
answer
as
to
whether
or
not
we
can
maybe
take
out
a
loan
and
do
some
of
the
harborwalk
other
parts
of
the
harborwalk
at
that
time.
But
can
we
get
at
least
approval
of
the
six-year
program
because
we
want
to
get
started
something
this
afternoon?
B
A
H
I
may
clarify
then,
into
your
first
meeting
in
December.
We
will
bring
back
an
appropriation
to
you
for
the
its
fiscal
year.
2015
projects
so
you'll
see
two
at
that
meeting.
We'll
have
our
annual
reappropriation
of
incomplete
projects
from
2014
and
we'll
have
the
new
revenue,
the
new
one
percent
revenue
that
we
expect
in
2015
and
the
projects
that
you
just
identified
sounds
good
all
right.
Thank
you
right.
J
I
The
executive
director
at
the
Punta
Gorda
Housing
Authority,
thank
you
for
approving
the
verandas
site
plan.
This
morning.
It's
been
such
an
uphill
battle,
getting
the
financial
package
together
for
this
project.
This
is
truly
a
red-letter
day
for
us.
We
expect
to
break
dirt
the
first
of
next
year.
Wonderful,
I'm
here
today,
though,
to
ask
for
your
continued
support.
You've
always
been
supportive
of
our
efforts
at
the
housing
authority
in
our
project,
but
we're
asking
today
for
your
financial
support
of
the
verandas
phase
2.
I
We're
asking
for
that,
because
we
have
the
opportunity
to
feel
up
to
apply
for
tax
credits
and
tax
credits
are
very
competitive.
In
order
to
win
those
tax
credits,
you
need
to
have
a
large
local
contribution.
The
tax
credits
can
provide
almost
eighty
percent
of
the
construction
budget,
so
they
are
essential
for
any
housing
authority.
In
order
to
build
in
order
for
the
city
to
make
this
commitment,
they
need
to
ask
the
county
to
use
that
eighty
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
three
dollars
for
the
verandas
project.
I
They
have
already
committed
20
thousand
dollars,
but
that's
not
enough
for
our
tax
credit
project
to
be
competitive.
We
can
get
in
the
front
door.
But
after
that,
that's
as
far
as
we'd
go,
we
wouldn't
compete
with
anybody.
It
would
probably
be
a
waste
of
the
three
thousand
dollar
application
fee.
We've
had
an
advanced
draft
released
of
the
RFP
and
we
know
that
to
be
competitive,
we
probably
need
to
ninety-five
thousand
dollars
so
with
the
county
with
the
county's
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
the
city's
eighty
thousand
dollars.
That
would
give
us
a
hundred
thousand.
I
We
would
get
to
the
door,
we
might
even
be
competitive
and
if
we're
lucky,
we
might
actually
win
and
we'd
be.
Finally,
through
all
this
frustration
and
struggled
to
get
financing
and
complete
our
housing
I'm,
also
asking
today
for
a
forward
commitment
up
in
fiscal
year,
2016
ship
funds-
those
should
be
approximately
eighty
thousand
dollars
as
well
ship
hasn't
been
funded
for
quite
a
few
years.
I
This
is
the
first
year
that
shipped
has
started
to
flow
again
since
the
Great
Recession,
so
it,
but
it's
reasonable
to
consider
or
to
believe
that
you'll
get
eighty
thousand
dollars
next
next
year
as
well.
Ship
is
released
as
part
of
the
Florida
legislative
session
in
the
spring
for
a
fiscal
year
beginning
july,
one
this
year,
the
count
the
county's
allocation
was.
I
690
1799
thousand
dollars
the
eighty
thousand
dollars
of
the
city's
makes
a
total
distribution
to
this
county
of
772
thousand
dollars.
The
county
administers
the
ship
dollars
when
ship
was
was
conceived
of
in
the
1990s.
That
seemed
like
the
most
efficient
way
to
distribute
those
funds,
so
I'm
asking
the
City
Council
to
ask
the
county
to
use
your
$80,000
to
add
to
their
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
give
us
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
our
application.
I
think
it's
important
to
share
with
you.
The
struggles
we've
had
getting
the
financing
for
this
project.
I
There
are
so
many
misconceptions
about
a
housing
authority.
As
our
board,
commissioner
pointed
out,
people
think
that
we
only
serve
Punta
Gorda.
We,
our
jurisdiction,
is
all
of
Charlotte
County,
so
any
eligible,
low-income
household
can
apply
and
receive
our
housing
subsidies
and
our
housing
benefits.
I
Also
people
seem
to
think
that
we
are
actually
the
local
HUD
Office
and
that
HUD
provides
all
of
our
needs.
That's
the
farthest
from
the
truth,
in
fact,
a
how
the
housing
authority
is
a
corporate
body
politic.
It's
actually
a
special
district
created
under
a
state
and
neighboring
act
by
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
in
1965.
The
city
of
Punta
Gorda
was
very
forward-thinking,
recognized
the
great
need
for
affordable
rental
housing,
so
they
created
us
and
provided
the
land
and
HUD
provided
the
funding
to
ultimately
build
184
public
housing
units.
I
A
Housing
Authority
then
simply
has
a
contract
with
HUD
to
manage
and
operate
those
public
housing
units
they're
much
like
any
other
private
vendor
that
might
have
a
federal
contract.
With
the
federal
agency
we
lost
154
of
those
original
units
in
Hurricane
Charley
and,
unfortunately,
the
federal
government
no
longer
supports
housing.
I
The
way
it
did
in
the
60s
and
70s
they
will
not
provide
a
hundred
percent
of
the
funds
to
rebuild
HUD
will
provide
some
small
grants,
they'll
total,
maybe
fifteen
percent
of
a
construction
budget,
but
then
that
leaves
the
Housing
Authority
struggling
to
figure
out
how
to
feel
this
financial
gap.
This
huge
financial
gap,
we
cannot
go
out
and
get
a
big
loan
for
that
gap.
A
big
loan
requires
large
mortgage
payments.
I
I
The
tax
credits
are
allocated
by
the
US
Treasury
and
they
limit
those
out.
They
don't
want
to
lose
all
their
revenue.
Obviously
they
distribute
it
to
each
state
based
on
population
and
then
the
state
has
to
come
up
with
an
application
and
rules
for
discerning
between
applicants.
It's
very
very
competitive
and
the
Punta
Gorda
Housing
Authority
has
struggled
to
compete,
we're
competing
with
Tallahassee
Miami,
Orlando
Sarasota
fort
myers,
much
bigger,
wealthier
communities
than
ours.
They
have
resources
available
to
them
that
we
don't
have.
They
have
large
amounts
of
CDBG.
I
We
don't
have
large
amounts
of
CDBG.
The
county
can
apply
for
small
cities
CDBG
and
we
have
pursued
that
option.
But
after
much
discussion
at
the
state
level,
the
state
level,
the
state
determined
that
our
project
was
not
eligible
because
our
property
was
in
the
city
limits.
I
argued
the
point
pointing
out
that
our
jurisdiction
was
all
of
charlotte
county
and
we
served
all
eligible
families
in
the
county.
But
I
lost
that
argument.
We
also
can't
tap
into
hope
six
dollars
which
many
of
our
larger
competitors
tap
into
hope.
I
Six
is
restricted
to
larger
communities
that
have
blighted
areas
or
deep
areas
of
poverty.
So
it
brings
us
back
to
the
only
logical.
The
only
local
contribution
available
is
ship.
Ship
was
suspended
during
the
Great
Recession,
so
it
was
very
hard
for
us
to
even
submit
an
application.
We
are
very
grateful
that
the
county
managed
somehow
to
hang
on
to
75
thousand
dollars
of
ship
funds
from
several
years
ago,
the
last
allocation
year,
so
that
we
could
continue
to
apply
for
tax
credits.
I
We
applied
many
many
times
and
we
finally
did
get
that
tax
credit
award
that
we're
using
to
build
phase
one.
We
are
great,
very,
very
grateful
for
the
county
managing
to
hang
on
to
that
funds.
Those
funds
I
know
it
wasn't
easy.
We
actually
had
a
million
dollars
in
ship
funds
for
gulf
breeze
apartments.
I
We
were
blessed,
of
course,
after
the
hurricane,
with
millions
of
extra
dollars
coming
into
this
area,
and
that
project
was
built
quickly
and
occupied
in
2008
and
it
received
a
national
award
in
two
thousand
and
9,
but
we
have
one
final
phase
to
build
before
we
can
say:
we've
replaced
the
senior
housing
we
lost
and
we
need
your
support
of
that
project.
It.
J
I
A
very
worthwhile
project
it
will
generate
and
leverage
seven
million
dollars
in
investor
equity
dollars.
It
will
also
generate
more
than
two
million
dollars
in
housing
subsidies
from
HUD
over
the
first
five
years
alone.
It
will
create
60
units
of
affordable
senior
housing,
not
just
once
but
in
perpetuity,
and
it
will
create
more
than
a
hundred
jobs
during
the
construction
phase.
It's
a
very
worthwhile
and
needed
project.
I
I
I
Asking
for
this
one
hundred
sixty
thousand
dollars
not
in
substitution
of
what
the
county
has
committed
and
already,
but
in
addition
to
the
county,
has
committed
20
thousand
dollars
for
Phase
two
and
they've
already
committed
seventy-five
thousand
dollars
for
phase
one.
So
we're
asking
for
your
hundred
sixty
thousand
dollars
in
addition
to
those
funds,
we're.
A
B
A
D
I
The
certainly
at
the
time
we
finally
got
disposition
from
HUD.
We
entered
the
great
recession
and
the
market
kind
of
just
tanked
I,
don't
believe
its
price.
Hud
HUD
we've
gone
through
a
very
lengthy
process
with
HUD
and
we
have
a
list
price
on
it.
But
if
we
get
an
offer
for
less
than
that,
I
can
take
it
through
HUD
and
they
will
look
at
it
and
work
with
us
to
sell
that
property
because.
D
I
Missed
that
opportunity,
unfortunately,
in
your
right,
there
would
have
been
a
phenomenal
in
my
accounting
me
of
scale.
It
would
have
made
our
tax
applications
much
more
competitive
with
their
larger
neighbors
because
they
had
economies
of
scale
in
their
larger
projects.
That
was
another
catch-22
for
us.
Unfortunately,
Florida
Housing
Finance
Corporation
determined
that
Charlotte
County
was
too
small,
that
the
second-oldest
county
in
the
country
could
not
absorb
120
units
of
senior
housing.
All
at
once,
so
we
were
forced
to
divide
it
into
two
60-unit
developments,
which
is
very
painful.
I
C
K
David
Hilson
urban
design
manager,
my
discussions
with
mr.
Hebert
at
the
county
who's
in
charge.
He
did
have
an
item
were
preparing
itself
to
run
through
the
Board
of
County
Commissioners,
with
certain
commitments
from
the
2015.
But
I
think
if
we
sit
down
and
talk,
we
can
make
things
move
around
and
make
it
work.
Thank.
B
A
A
I
A
B
I
did
got
to
write
it
down
two
items
for
the
next
council
agenda:
I
think
we
either
that
or
the
second
meeting
in
December
we're
going
to
try
and
get
it
on
the
first
meeting
of
December
approval,
review
and
approval
of
our
business
development
plan
for
our
strategic,
our
strategic
plan.
We
already
got
comments
back
from
the
recorded
chamber,
business
and
economic
development
group,
and
then
we're
also
going
to
bring
to
you
the
proposal
from
the
visual
arts
center
regarding
development
of
a
web
portal.
A
B
L
A
A
F
L
D
I
for
comment
I've
heard
from
some
of
the
applicants
that
they,
if
they
had
known
that
they
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
City
Council
and
advertise
their
interest
in
a
position.
They
would
have
shown
up
and
stayed
it
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
might
not
want
to
consider
putting
something
on
the
application
and
I
had
this
discussion
with
Karen,
making
them
aware
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
come
and
speak
at
Council
and
perhaps
even
encourage
them
to
do
so.
I.
A
L
A
D
A
So
we
might
want
to
carpool
that'd
be
great.
That
would
be
amenable
to
everyone.
Okay,
we
discuss
that
later.
I've
also
talked
with
Karen
about
perhaps
looking
at
a
rotation
of
our
responsibilities
during
events,
there
are
so
many
events
that
we
are
all
invited
to
and
I.
Don't
know
how
the
rest
of
you
feel,
but
I
often
feel
guilty.
A
She
could
keep
the
calendar
similar
to
what
she
has
been
doing,
but
she
also
needs
to
have
feedback
from
us
if
we
are
planning
to
attend
and
then
ours.
Our
suggestion,
in
terms
of
what
would
be
a
priority
to
make
sure
that
council
is
rare,
obviously
proclamations,
we're
invited
to
do
a
proclamation,
and
sometimes
one
or
more
of
us
are
invited
to
do
that
particular
thing.
A
If
you
can't
do
it
next
person
in
the
rotation
would
be
asked
to
do
it
I
think
another
priority
would
be
ripping
cuttings
for
new
businesses,
but
again
that
would
be
on
a
rotation
basis.
If
you
want
to
go,
please
do
but
at
least
we
know
that
there
will
be
one
person
that
will
be
there
from
council.
Does
that
sound,
reasonable
Nancy.
F
Yeah,
it
sounds
reasonable.
I
noticed
that
some
of
the
ribbon
cuttings
are
there
not
businesses
located
either
within
city
limits,
or
at
least
nearby
that
they
would
considered
to
be
Ponte
gorda.
So
we
might
want
to
use
some
judgment
there,
because
some
of
the
businesses
there
have
been
cuttings
in
on
peachland
somewhere,
and
it
is
that
really
part
of
part
of
what
would
we
need
to.
J
C
Historically,
I
think
my
time
here
what
has
happened
is
them.
They
always
want
the
mayor.
The
people
want
the
mayor
and
then,
if
the
mayor
can't
take
on
the
responsibility,
then
it
goes
to
the
vice
mayor.
Then,
if
the
vice
mayor
can't
take
on
the
responsibility,
then
it
goes
ifs
down
and
somebody
picks
it
up
and
you
know,
runs
with
it.
So
I
mean
that's
historically
how
it's
been.
Are
you
saying
that
we
want
to
change
that
up
somehow,
no.
A
I
think
that
that
will
continue
to
happen,
but
there
are
some
things
like
all
of
the
ribbon
cuttings
that
we
get
invited
to
I
mean
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
mayor
or
the
vice
mayor.
If
there's
a
particular
business
that
you
have
shopped
out
and
you
want
to
promote,
it
might
be,
you
know
a
friend
of
yours,
that's
you
may
be
the
person
that
represents
the
council
at
that
particular
I.
C
A
E
What
you're
saying
I
kind
of
got
over
that
a
little
bit,
because
you
can't
go
to
everything
but
I'm
almost
wondering
like
I
know,
you
know
the
historic
preservation
is
having
something
I
saw
and
it
is
helpful
when,
when
you
will
say
I'm
going
I'm
going
because
I
knew
I
was
going
to
go
to
that.
You
know.
M
E
But
is
there
a
way
on
the
computer
when
we're
accepting
those
invitations?
If
perhaps
on
that
particular
one?
If
it's
may
be
highlighted
in
red,
it
means
no
one's
accepted.
We
look
on
the
calendar,
there's
some
way,
so
we
could
say.
Oh
no
one's
accepted
that
I'll,
you
know.
Maybe
I
can
rearrange
my
schedule
and
go
to
that.
That's.
F
I
think
it's
a
good
point,
because
I
went
to
the
ribbon
cutting
for
the
downtown
fishing
that
bait
and
tackle.
Thank
you
and
happened
to
be
the
only
council
member
there
and
so
John
right
asked
me:
are
you
going
to
the
Havana
tranquility
ribbon,
cutting
and
I
said?
Well,
I'd
thought
about
it
because
please
come
because
he
wanted
somebody
there.
C
But
in
the
case
of
the
day
and
the
tranquility
they're,
not
in
the
city
limits
so
I
mean,
would
that
be
one
that
we
would
be
that
on
the
list
off
the
list?
I
mean
it's
a
good
I
beg
yeah
you're
right,
that's
one
of
those
I
mean
it.
Are
we
going
to
be
discreet
with
this,
I
mean
how
we
gonna
hash
that
out
and
am
I
in.
F
My
view
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that,
even
though
they
may
not
be
within
the
city,
limits
their
punta
gorda
and
they
see
themselves
as
punta
gorda
right,
and
so
it's
are
they
in
within
a
proximity
of
punta
gorda.
Then
maybe
we
should
be
there
just
because
they
think
they're
punta
gorda,
night
John
well.
D
I,
like
the
idea
of
indicating
in
red
that
know
what,
as
indicated
a
preference
or
that
they
would
attend,
so
you
know
we
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
maybe
jump
in
is
a
lot
of
these
ribbon.
Cuttings
I
decided
the
last
minute
whether
I
can
make
it
or
whether
I
can't
make
it
or
whether
I
want
to
go.
That's
all
I
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we
I
don't
know
about
the
rotation
concept.
We
spoke
about
that
once
before
at
a
council
meeting
and
we
decided
not
yet.
A
A
So
perhaps
again
with
Karen's
help,
we
can
identify
those
that
perhaps
someone
should
be
at
particularly
if
it's
a
new
business
and
drown
or
even
if
new
business
has
moved.
You
know
some
of
those
kinds
of
things
we
would
definitely
want
to
be,
and
the
course
there
are
there
so
many
other
events
that
we
get
invited
to
other
than
ribbon
effect.
Well,
you're.
A
E
As
as
long
as
we
know,
typically,
what
I
do
I
will
accept
if
I
know
I
can't
no
way
then
I'll
decline,
but
if
I
might
be
available,
you
know
something
doesn't
run
late.
I'll
put
it
on
my
calendar,
but
if
I
know
I
always
accept
that
way.
It's
there
and
I
know
if
I
have
the
time
to
get
there,
I
always
get
there,
but
if
I
knew
that
nobody
was
going-
and
it
was
you
know
it's
a
new
business-
I
mean
I
always
want
to
support
our
businesses.
E
M
L
E
E
L
In
order
to,
let
you
know
I
have
to
edit
that
event
and
send
it
to
you
again,
so
that
means
more
emails
for
you.
I
can
do
it
that
way
we
can
if
we
did
the
rotation.
My
idea
was
that
similar
to
the
proclamations,
if,
if
you're
on
the
rotation,
then,
when
I
sent
out
the
invite,
I
can
say,
councilmember
divine
will
attend
this
event.
L
L
So
if
you
wanted
to
go
just
because
councilmember
divine
was
the
next
person
on
the
list
doesn't
mean
you
can't
go,
but
you
would
still
be
in
the
rotation,
even
if
you
went
you'd
still
be
on
the
rotation
to
go
to
the
next
event.
If
it
was
your
turn,
so
if
I
think
the
rotation
could
work,
but
you
can
still
go,
but
at
least
then
we're
assured
that
the
one
person
can
go
and
I
and
just
to
clarify
the
proclamations
we're
going
to
continue
with
those
as
we
have.
A
M
L
A
L
C
L
Consultant
we
had
talked
about
new
businesses
rather
than
new
chamber
members,
and
also
if
a
business
was
opening
a
new
location
in
the
city
if
they
were
moving,
but
it
was
a
new
location
for
them.
Maybe
they
should
be
a
priority
as
well,
but
for
those
businesses
who
have
been
open,
for
you,
know
a
number
of
years
and
the
only
reason
there's
ribbon
cutting
is
because
that's
a
benefit
of
their
becoming
a
chamber
member
than
those
so.
C
L
Done
that
in
the
past
is
that
if
they
were
a
Punta
Gorda
chamber
member,
then
they
were
included
in
our
ribbon
cuttings
and
if
they
were
a
Charlotte,
County,
Chamber
member,
but
located
in
the
city
limits,
then
we
include
those
ribbon
cuttings.
So
that's
kind
of
how
we
defined
it
was
the
Punta
Gorda
chamber
member,
regardless
of
where
they
were
located.
So
they
could
have
been
up
in
Port
Charlotte.
But
okay.
F
A
H
L
M
A
A
But
at
the
same
time
they
brought
over
an
antique
French
flag
and
donated
it
to
our
heritage,
military
museum,
and
so
our
museum
then
reciprocated
and
gave
a
flag
to
them
to
take
back
to
France
and
Jean
Francois
and
his
wife
brought
me
back
pictures
of
our
flag
in
Paris
where
the
our
flag
is
now
and
they
have
been
just
so
thrilled
and
everyone
in
Paris
and
France
are
pleased
to
have
a
flag
from
Punta
Gorda,
zaret
military
heritage
museum.
So
I
just
thought
that
Lisa
that.
F
Do
you
want
to
begin
sure?
I
would
like
to
congratulate
a
joke
king
one,
the
comedy
with
a
cause
on
Saturday.
He
did
a
hilariously
good
job
and
represented
Punta
Gorda
well
and
self.
Congratulations
to
him
and
I
need
to
email
you.
What
is
the
RPC,
the
regional
planning,
what
they're
considering
for
legislative
I've
reviewed
it
all?
It's
lengthy
and
it's
really
just
a
lot
of
what
other
people
have
submitted.
So
it's
really
just
for
enough
information.
I'll!
Send
it
to
you,
but
it's
like
almost
100
pages
worth
of
information.
E
Okay,
I've
got
a
couple
things
first,
I
wanted
to
say
the
kenton
pool
bid
I
agree
with
Howard,
both
of
those
that
those
vendors
were
were
excellent
vendors.
If
we
want
to
change
the
policy,
we
should
talk.
If
that's
something
we
wanted
to
do,
I
just
didn't
want
to
change.
You
know
hold
up
the
project,
it
we
redo
the
whole
thing
so
I
mean
if
it
is
something
we
want
to
talk
about.
We
should
talk
about
that
at
some
point.
E
Also,
on
our
one
percent
sales
tax
we
did.
There
was
a
picture
of
a
Sailing
Center,
and
this
is
something
I
wanted
to
know.
If
you
guys
would
be
interested
in
I
took
a
trip
over
to
Jensen
Beach
Florida
and
they
have
a
US
Sailing
Center
there
and
it's
on
County
property.
They
rent
it
I
have
some
information
on
that
I'll
Senate.
You
guys
have
the
pictures,
but
I
have
a
you
know,
narrative
of
that,
and
it
is
a
beautiful,
beautiful
center
and
I
know
we're
not
going
to
start
our
activity
center
until
later.
E
Because
of
the
you
know,
the
the
leases
and
stuff,
but
I
kind
of
would
like
to
encourage
the
Y
to
really
focus
more
on
the
Sailing
Center
at
the
bayfront
center
I
mean
our
our
area
that
our
Harper
is
our
biggest
asset
and
this
this
sailing
center
over
there,
it's
a
perfect,
the
same
size
community.
We
are
it's
right
next
door
to
Port
st.
Lucie,
which
is
the
same
size
community
as
poor
Charlotte.
E
They
have
I'll.
Just
give
you
a
couple
things
they
have.
They
do
regattas.
They
have
six
or
seven
regattas
a
year.
They
make
about
seventy
thousand
dollars.
They
have
membership
levels
where
it's
like.
A
membership
is
395
dollars
for
a
membership
for
a
year
that
includes
unlimited.
They
have
Hobie
cats
and
I
have
a
list
of
all
the
boats
and
stuff
they
have,
but
they
written.
This
guy
has
never
gotten
any
type
of
grants
at
all.
E
E
Very
supported
by
their
tourism
because
they
bring
so
many
overnight
stays
weekend,
stays
and
I
think
that
if
we
could
encourage
the
Y
to
try
to
step
it
up
there
and
create
that
prop
that
that
program
with
what
we
have
there
now
that,
when
we're
ready
to
build
that
activity
center,
we
could
really,
you
know,
see
see.
What's
what's
going,
you
know
what's
going,
this
is
the
size.
A
E
You
know
I've
talked
to
Howard
about
it
and
talked
about
having
the
Y
come
in,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
mean
my
focus.
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
I
mean
I,
just
see
it
as
such
a
a
wonderful
thing
for
our
community,
because
it's
overnight
and
it's
not
just
kids
regattas
I
mean
now
we
next
year
we
a
Brian
Gleason,
is
bringing
that
regatta.
E
Here,
that's
what
I,
when
I
think
of
a
boating
community,
that's
what
I
think
of
and
I'm
involved
in
the
one
the
Y
has
regard
as
I
go
and
help
out,
and
we
have
people
who
come
that
from
day.
Besides
they
look,
they
can't
believe
our
location,
the
parents
just
love
the
fact
that
they
can
be
right
there
and
see
their
kids
sale,
and
they
can't
see
that
in
Tampa
when
they
have
the
regattas
there
they
love
our
mat
effect.
A
C
E
I
wish
I
only
had
my
phone,
so
I
didn't
really
have
a
camera,
but
you
you
can't
see
any
this
is
kind
of
at
the
end
of
some
at
the
end
of
a
road.
So
it's
not
really
around
a
community,
but
you
know
I
could
see
that
really,
instead
of
on
the
point,
like
is
kind
of
planned
being
maybe
up
closer,
but
it's
all
filled
in
with
plants
and
secret.
You
can't
see
anything
behind,
but
behind
this
behind
it
you
can
see
the
top
pitcher
in
the
left.
That's
the
back
of
it.
E
So
you
see
how
neat
and
clean
it's
it
is
and
underneath
they
have
a
place
where
they
repair
the
boats
and
then
they
store
they
have
paddle
boards.
You
can
just
go
grab
a
paddle
board
and
you
know
if
you
have
a
membership,
you
just
sign
it
out
and,
like
I
said,
they're
the
same
size
community
and
they
have
one.
You
know
one
guy
there
and
then
they
have
all
these
classrooms.
They
have
450
kids
every
summer
in
their
camp
for
sailing
camp
and.
D
B
E
D
F
E
I
would
like
to
just
let
you
know
yesterday
at
drug-free
punta
gorda
officers,
captain
Lewis,
Jeff,
Woodard,
Tony,
Provo
and
Joe
angelini
did
a
presentation
and
they
could
they
could
be
on
TV.
It
was
so
good
and
they
represented
our
communities
so
well
and
it
was
kind
of
a
spur
of
the
moment
they
really
weren't
planning
on
doing
it.
Joe
King
was
supposed
to
do
it,
so
they
kind
of
filled
in
and
just
didn't,
miss
a
beat
and
really
really
did.
Such
a
great
job
sounds.
D
D
C
Rachel
yes,
went
to
Orlando
last
week
and
met
with
my
energy
and
natural
resource
committee
and
we're
functioning.
It
was
a
very
well
functioning
group
of
like
60
people,
which
is
kind
of
unwieldy,
but
it
was
fine.
I
thought
it
was
good.
They
heard
you
know
the
story
of
Punta
Gorda
and
they
were
receptive
and,
like
the
final
policy
statements,
I
think,
have
to
be
approved
by
the
board
and
then
they
will
be
published
for
all
the
different
committees.
C
A
N
J
Buckley
voters,
alliance,
first
of
all,
I
like
to
say,
I
have
a
suggestion.
You
were
talking
about
parking
for
the
Western
Michigan
project.
You
can
accelerate
the
boating
activity
center,
which
would
accommodate
two
things,
possibly
the
Sailing
Center
and
some
parking
that
might
accommodate
the
college.
The
other
suggestion
would
be.
You
know
we
have
two
trolleys.
N
We
could
have
a
parking
area
someplace
with
regular
transportation
between
the
school
and,
and
there
are
cars-
and
this
happens
all
the
time
around
cities
that
don't
have
a
lot
of
parking
for
their
schools
on
the
saline
or
the
YMCA
we're
working
very
hard,
I'm
also
on
the
advisory
board
there
and
I
have
to
say,
while
we
had
good
attendance
for
numbers
of
children
going
through
the
program
its
to
a
fractional,
it
has
been
a
fractional
operation.
I
think
one
thing
that's
we're
holding
over
our
head
that
I
have
to
keep
reminding
the
folks.
N
They've
got
some
great
plans,
but
I
have
to
keep
reminding
them
that
their
lease
comes.
Do
I,
think
it's
februari
and
maybe
councilman
Kavanagh
has
a
better
handle
on
one.
Exactly
that
lease
is
up.
I
don't,
but
I
know
it's
january-february
marsh
whatever
pretty
soon
would
they
need,
I
think,
they're,
afraid
they're
there
they're
sitting
there
waiting
afraid
that
they
may
not
get
their
lease
renewed,
we've
already
I'm
volunteered
to
we're,
trying
to
get
adults
and
older
children
involved
as
well
and
I'm
preparing
to
meet
with
Doug
Whitaker.
N
N
On
the
cut
through
I
sent
on
a
letter,
of
course,
we
had
a
lot
of
private
donors
and
those
people
paid
for
the
engineering
study
that
councilman
Kevin
all
has
now
it
has
that
we
would
probably
had
we've
had
our
meeting.
The
engineer
came
up,
explained
his
study,
it's
42
pages,
very
thorough,
and
he
gave
option
a
option
B
for
the
locations.
N
A
couple
of
guys
on
the
committee
said
they'd
also
like
to
see
an
option
C,
which
we
had
talked
about
months
back,
but
we
did
not
challenge
the
engineer
to
pursue
that
that
one
now
he's
going
to
give
us
an
estimate
to
go
back
and
and
he'll
do
some
study
on
that
option.
That's
why
there's
been
a
delay
of
anything
to
show
you
folks?
N
He
is
fully
prepared.
He
is
going
to
prepare
the
PowerPoint
presentations
that
you'll
see.
His
recommendation
is
that
he
makes
314
city
government,
one
that
will
use
to
show
to
eat
the
FWC,
all
the
permitting
folks
and
then
one
for
the
public,
but
I'll
have
to
say
now.
The
Alliance
feels
very
strongly
that
they
raise
the
money
to
pay
for
all
this
and
the
study
belongs
to
them
and
they
feel
they
should
see
their
directors
and
alternates
should
see
this
first
and
now
that's
what
we
plan
to
do
so.
N
N
N
J
D
N
Yeah
I,
the
only
thing
I
would
say,
is
that
that's
really
not
the
final
product
as
far
as
I
feel
very
strongly,
and
the
engineer
recommends
option
B
on
that
study
that
you
have
and
how
the
rest
of
the
committee
is
going
to
feel
I,
don't
know
I
mean
it
was.
It
was
only.
There
were
only
two
folks
that
wanted
that
option.
C
pursued
the
engineer
feels
very
strongly
that
/
many
wise
timewise
cost-wise
everything
option.
B
is
our
best
shot,
so
we'll
have.
A
N
B
J
D
D
If
I
could
make
a
suggestion
that
you
do
a
presentation
to
council
initially
before
you
do
that
and
and
have,
if
council
chooses
to
pass
that
that
proposal
back
to
staff
for
their
comments,
that
they
that
may
be
helpful
prior
to
you
going
out
into
the
community
and-
and
you
know,
drumming
up
support
or
you
know
whatever
is
going
to
come
out
of
it.
Society.
N
And
I
understand
that,
but
the
presentation
that
you
folks
see
it's
not
going
to
be
the
same
presentation.
It's
the
public's,
going
to
see,
in
other
words,
you're
you're
you're,
going
to
be.
The
engineer
suggestion
is
that
you
get
engineering
type
information
that
you,
you
know
all
the
facts,
so
that
for
you
to
make
a
decision
that
you
may
have
to
make
in
the
future,
the
public
is
not
going
to
really
worry
about
that
type
of
stuff.
We're
going
to
make
one
probably
they'll
give
advantages,
disadvantages,
etc.
A
I
believe
that
your
recommendation
so
does
that
is
that
clearer,
because
what
we're
concerned
about
or
what
I
would
be
concerned
about,
is
that
once
it
gets
out
there,
the
rumors
start
going
people
go
yay,
nay
or
whatever
clashes
in
the
community,
and
it
probably
will
be
unnecessary
if
it
is
going
to
move
along.
It's
the.
N
A
O
He'd
be
interesting
to
know
that
I
did
not
hit
50
degrees,
they'll
hit
Tallahassee
and
it
was
50
when
I
arrived
in
Punta
Gorda
last
night
as
a
lost
control
consultant
in
safety
engineer,
a
little
bit
wanted
to
clue
you
in
on
thinking
about
the
use
of
Retta
for
the
impact
site
as
and
I
think
you
have
to
look
at
the
park
across
the
street
the
park.
There
is
very
narrow,
it's
suitable,
largely
for
picnic
tables
and
little
shelters
and
so
forth.