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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 12-05-18 Part 2
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A
B
Of
the
three
items
that
we
have
to
consider
I
would
strongly
oppose
not
funding
the
project.
I
get
a
sense
that
that's
pretty
much
the
general
sort
it's
going
to
be,
who
of
us
now
to
decide
whether
to
assess
it
in
the
more
general
way
or
or
not,
but
I
think
that
there
should
be
no
negotiation
from
my
perspective
that
this
project
is
not
funded
in
any
way.
So
I
think
we
should
take
that
off
the
table
personally,.
B
F
Am
for
I
would
first
like
to
state
that
I
totally
support
this
project.
I
always
have,
and
I
always
will
I
think
it's
extremely
important
for
the
betterment
of
the
voting
community
that
we
live
in,
and
certainly
it
will
be.
A
major
player
for
safety
and
Safety's
always
been
one
of
my
primary
concerns
for
everyone
in
our
city.
F
I'm,
not
completely
convinced
that
this
assessment
district
is
the
right
way
to
do
it.
I
have
been
vocal
about
this
before
I
will
not
in
any
way
hold
this
project
up.
I
think
we
need
to
go
full
steam
ahead.
We
have
the
permits
which
are
in
some
cases
are
time
sensitive.
We
have,
we
have
purchased
the
land.
The
land
deal
will
be
closing
early
January,
we're
way
further
ahead
than
we've
ever
been
in
the
20-plus
years.
I've
lived
here
and
I
want
to
see
it
happen.
F
I
want
to
see
it
happen
in
my
lifetime,
but
I,
but
I'm
very
happy
that
we've
gotten
this
far
I
hate
that
this
has
become
such
a
divisive
thing
in
our
community
I
think
it's
been
horrible.
I
get
thousands
of
emails
every
week
about
it
because
it
is
in
my
district
and
I
really
would
like
us
to
take
another
look
before
we
get
to
the
hearing
process.
I
would
like
us
to
take
another
look
at
other
ways.
It
could
be
funded.
F
That
said,
I
think
we
need
to
move
ahead
with
the
resolution
so
that
we
have
this
option
on
the
table.
We
can
always
not
do
the
assessment
if
we
find
other
ways
to
fund
the
project
in
the
mean
time,
but
let's
keep
this
thing
moving.
Let's
get
this
resolution
in
place
so
that
we
can
continue
get
it
on
the
tax
rolls
if
we
need
to,
but
we
have
to
do
this
by
law
by
January
10th
or
we
cannot
do
the
assessment
on
the
tax
rolls
for
2019.
F
G
E
H
G
History
of
this
project
is
that
when
we
decided
that
we
were
going
to
go
with
the
assessment
methodology
with
hired
an
attorney
whose
specialty
was
in
setting
up
special
districts,
when
we
put
that
together,
we
then
had
to
hire
an
economist
appraiser
who
then
determined
what
properties
would
actually
benefit,
and
the
reason
why
this
is
important
is
because
what
we
call
a
tax
is
an
on
exchange
revenue.
Basically
money's
taken
for
general
benefit
for
a
fee
special
assessment,
which
is
what
we're
the
world
brand.
G
It
has
to
be
it's
an
exchange
revenue
which
basically
means
we're
providing
something
for
fee
direct
benefit,
the
benefit
of
property.
The
difference
between
taxes
and
assessments
is
that
taxes
are
general
benefit.
Like
example,
if
we
were
to
do
a
fire
fee
versus
general
things,
we
we
could
not
include
EMS
in
that,
because
that
was
a
general
benefit.
It
only
could
be
benefit
property.
G
So,
in
our
regard,
we
do
have
to
understand
that
unless
we
rehire
another
economist,
Houla
basically
would
some
have
and
I
doubt
they
could
be
able
to
do
this,
I
mean
they
would
have
to
be
able
to
show
from
the
standpoint
of
appraisal
that
the
entire
PGI
would
would
benefit
from
this,
which
is
not
going
to
show
we
can
hire
if
we
want
to
spend
more
money
and
obviously
have
an
indecision
budget
and
just
spend
more
money
to
help.
Someone
tell
us
exactly
the
same
benefit
error
we
have
now.
G
We
could
do
that,
but
we
can't
we
need
to
publicly
understand
that
we
don't
arbitrarily
decide
benefit
area.
This
is
something
that's
been
done
by
professional,
whose
qualifications
is
in
is
in
property
value
and
so
from
that
determination,
in
the
same
manner
that
the
PGI
Canal
District
and
be
a
second
our
district.
They
based
on
benefit
areas.
This
is
not
arbitrary,
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
all
understand
this,
because
I
don't
want
us
to
mislead.
The
public
has
to
believe
that
we
there's
subjectivity
with
this
there's
not.
G
We
only
can
assess
a
benefit
area
if
we
were
to
hire
another
economist
who
came
up
with
a
different
determination
that
other
properties
also
benefited,
then
they
could
be
assessed
in
the
same,
but
I
think
that
we
we
we
just
I,
don't
feel
that
we've
been
forthright
enough
in
terms
of
really
actually
saying
what
the
law
in
Florida
is
in
Florida
taxes
and
assessments
are
different.
We
it's
not
arbitrary
and
we
have
to
just
make
sure
that
the
public
understands
this
and
we
initiative.
G
We
understand
this
that,
as
of
the
moment
right
now,
we
have
a
benefit
area,
that's
been
determined
by
an
economist
appraiser
and
therefore
that's
the
only
area
that
can
be
assessed
and
I'm,
not
in
a
as
this
one
said,
I
believe
for
now.
We
should
approve
this
resolution
that
we
want
to
look
at.
You
know
whose
benefit
everything
again
in
February
can
do
that,
but
I
we
don't
have
this
objectivity.
That's
assumed
and
I
just
want
to
state
that
okay.
D
D
D
I
E
I
I
E
I
You
decided
in
February
that
you
wanted
to
expand
the
district.
There
will
be
no
assessment
on
the
tax
bill
in
2019.
Can't
be
done.
Right
have
to
go
back,
hire
the
legal
attorney
to
then
come
up
with
the
methodology
or
how
to
assess
across
this
new
boundary,
make
sure
that
the
economist
is
still
on
board
and
that
legal
attorney,
the
Tegel
attorney
that
we
have
will
have
to
determine
whether
that
everyone's
going
to
pay
the
same
or.
J
I
D
D
D
E
B
We
politically
have
to
show
the
courage,
somehow
we're
going
to
move
forward
and
continue
this
project.
This
staff
of
ours
in
this
wonderful
city
has
a
very
good
record
of
finding
monies.
We
have
to
go
on
faith
that
they're
gonna
find
as
much
money
as
potentially
available.
If
it's
enough
to
pay
for
the
whole
thing
great,
and
if
it's
not
whatever
it
is,
it's
gonna
be
what
it
is.
We
still
have
the
opportunity
if
I
understand
it.
If
it
turns
out
to
be
a
50
million
dollar
project,
we
can
still
scuttle
the
project.
B
You
know
I
use
exaggerated
numbers
to
make
my
points
at
the
same
time,
I
do
have
a
question
as
and
that's
how
many
units
are
we
discussing
that
are
in
the
at
at
present
allocated
district
and
how
many
are
in
PGI
altogether
how
many
housing
units
are
we
looking
that
this
would
be
spread
over?
What's
the
rough
number,
this.
K
Staff
has
done
some
preliminary
and
the
water
access
units,
the
total
water
access
units
are
2785.
It
would
affect
approximately
2112
property
Charlotte
County
property
accounts.
As
far
as
the
entire
PTI
district.
That
information
was.
We
didn't
undertake
that,
because
that
was
not
the
direction
I'd.
B
Be
curious
just
to
know
at
this
point
in
time
at
some
point
in
time
that
we
should
be
aware
of
that.
If
we
were
to
decide
to
change
the
district,
however,
I
don't
think
we
should
be
procrastinating
on
moving
this
project
forward
at
this
point,
so
I
think
we
have
to
make
our
decision
and
and
go
forward
then.
F
I
When
you
talk
about
ongoing,
we
will
be
offering-
hopefully,
council
approval
a
payment
period
of
anywhere
between
three
four
or
five
years
yet
to
be
determined.
We
don't
want
to
put
such
a
financial
burden
on
everyone
that
they
have
to
pay
the
whole
thing
up
front.
We
want
to
make
it
so
that
they
can
pay
that
assessment
off
over
a
three
four
or
five
year
time
frame.
That's
why
the
advertisement
says
continuing,
because
it
will
continue
for
the
like
amount
of
when
the
payment
period
is
once
that
payment
period
ends
three
four
or
five
years.
F
E
I
Mean
water
access
units?
Well,
do
you
know
what
it
took
to
do
just
this
section?
In
other
words,
we
have
to
look
at
every
single
property
and
we
have
to
and
analyze
every
single
property
to
determine
how
many
water
access
units
are
eligible
for
that
property.
That's
a
massive
undertaking
for
all
of
PGI.
K
K
K
Single-Family
property
with
odor
over
85
feet
under
current
code,
can
have
one
dock
or
two
dock:
a
lift
out,
pilings
or
out
pilings
and
two
boat
lifts.
They
would
be
assessed
to
water
access
units
when
you
get
into
the
multi-family.
That's
when
you
get
into
the
length
of
their
seawall
the
width
of
the
canal,
how
many
units
that
can
be
built
on
the
upland
property
and
that's
all
been
calculated?
K
F
Can
we
publish
that
information
in
the
newsletter
this
week?
Please
I'd,
like
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
have
that
available.
I
have
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
water
access
unit
definition.
It's
really
not
spelled
out
that
well
in
the
and
the
stuff
that
you're
referenced
so
specifically
with
lengths
of
sea
walls.
That's
what
that
was
one
of
the
items.
That
was
a
big
question.
K
E
F
E
K
As
we
go
through
the
water
access
units
to
get
those
maps
that
mr.
Disher
has
graded
available
on
the
website,
it
will
take
some
time
very
large
Maps,
a
lot
of
information.
You
know
so
before
the
February
hang.
Our
intent
was
to
have
that
information
available.
So
you
could
physically
go
look
at
your
parcel
and
see
how
how
we
came
up
with
what
we
came
up
with
I
think
just
so
everyone.
It
knows.
The
website
already
has
a
dedicated
page
under
capital
projects.
D
C
It's
based
on
per
lot
and
I,
and
there's
been
suggestions
that
there's
other
ways
that
that
could
be
done.
Square,
linear
feet
of
shoreline
is
one
and
that's
not
to
say
that
that's
unreasonable
and
in
fact,
we've
been.
We
received
a
lawsuit
recently
challenging
the
methodology
that
has
been
in
place
for
quite
some
time
as
it
relates
to
the
canal.
Maintenance
assessment
districts
bear
in
mind.
The
purpose
of
that
assessment.
C
Is
the
the
water
access
units
are
more
directed
towards
what
amenities
that
you
have
at
your
property
with
respect
to
boating
activities,
so
that
if
you
have
a
dock,
if
you
have
more
than
one
boat,
lift,
etc
a
fairer
way?
According
to
our
attorneys,
to
assess
that
particular
improvement
versus
the
general
maintenance
of
the
canal
system
in
general,
which
is
funded
by
principally
by
the
assessments
we're.
C
Again,
the
others
is
based
on
fact
that
everyone's
got
a
seawall.
Everyone
enjoys
the
quality
of
the
water.
Everyone
benefits
their
property
benefits
by
by
being
on
the
water
and
the
value
that
that
adds
versus
non
waterfront
properties
and
I
understand.
That
is
a
fine
distinction
between
the
two,
but
but
that
is
why
this
is
more
specific
to
the
opportunity
for
boating.
C
G
One
thing
putting
it
putting
this
back
in
perspective
is
that
those
in
a
benefit
area
expected
to
receive
a
property
increase
of
about
eighty
thousand
dollars,
and
and-
and
this
is
no,
this
is
the
thing
one
thing
about
it
is
that
on
one
hand
we
can't
poopoo
the
profession
of
economists
and
appraisers
on
one
hand,
but
other
hand.
Our
whole
real
estate
industry
is
built
on
this.
G
We
can't
say
I
like
this
tool,
this
time,
I
don't
like
this
tool
this
time
what
that
said,
if
we
don't,
if
we
want
to
go
into
the
indecision
budget
realm
of
just
spending
money
again,
I
fairly
doubt
that
an
appraiser
economist
is
going
to
say
that
the
northwest
quadrant
of
PGI
elects
them,
but
to
make
a
way
colony
point,
etc.
Is
going
to
receive
that
kind
of
significant
increase
in
property
value
based
on
on
a
cut-through
down
at
the
southeast
portion,
I'm
just
right
now,
I'm
just
speculating
on
nine
appraisers
or
a
property
appraiser.
G
I
E
I
will
add,
there's
lots
more
to
be
discussed
about
this
in
the
future.
We
are
jut.
We
are
moving
this
forward
and
I'm
happy
that
we
are
moving
this
forward
for
our
community.
Thank
you,
okay,
do
we
need
to
take
a
break?
Are
we
okay,
five
minutes,
yeah
that'd
be
great.
Okay,
10:17,
we'll
be
back
at
1022.
E
Is
now
back
in
session
and
let
it
mean
for
the
record
Gary
wine
has
been
excused.
E
E
C
C
E
C
E
E
E
G
E
There's
been
a
motion
to
approve
in
a
second,
so
all
council
members,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
and
those
opposed
the
motion
carries.
So
we
will
move
forward
and
hear
this
back
in
January,
okay,
perfect.
Now
we
move
on
to
the
consent
agenda
and
any
citizens
wishing
to
comment
on
consent,
agenda
items.
I
guess
I
should
ask
that
the
council,
if
there
is
anything
you
would
not
remove
from
the
consent
agenda,
No,
okay.
E
I
L
C
K
K
E
F
E
E
It's
a
new
zoning
classification.
So
if
there
are
any
citizens
comments
on
any
of
those
items,
please
come
to
the
podium.
You
have
three
minutes,
don't
everybody
rush
at
once?
Okay,
well,
I!
Guess
we're
gonna
move
on
so
regular
agenda
items
we'll
start
with
the
budget
transfer
from
the
storm
sewer
reconstruction.
N
Good
morning
mark
Goering,
Public
Works.
We
come
to
you
today
to
do
a
budget
transfer.
These
are
funds
that
we
have
in
one
account
for
storm
sewer
reconstruction
that
we'd
like
to
move
to
to
other
accounts.
So
we
can
cover
maintenance
needs
the
first
one
being
Sailfish
bridge.
That's
the
second
bridge,
as
you
head
out.
Marion
d-o-t
does
inspections
on
them
every
two
years
and
in
the
last
set
of
inspections,
they've
noticed
that
a
lot
of
the
the
soil
under
the
bridge
around
the
pilings
has
washed
away.
N
So
we're
going
to
be
putting
it's
called
articulating,
concrete
blocks.
We
use
them
on
the
harbor,
walk
over
in
the
area
of
MLK
or
Milas
they're
concrete
blocks
with
holes
in
them,
they're
all
wired
together,
and
they
set
them
down
with
heavy
equipment,
and
it
covers
the
bottom
and
keeps
the
bottom
from
any
eroding
further.
First
they'll
fill
in
the
holes
and
then
they'll
place
those
blocks
in
our
bridge
fund.
We
usually
put
about
we
put
10,000
per
year
in
to
cover
things
like
seals
and
grouting
and
stuff
like
that.
N
N
We've
got
piers
all
over
starting
it
down
by
the
hospital
behind
the
Justice
Center
behind
the
harbor
wall,
condos,
the
Gilcrest
Park
Ponce,
Park,
Nature
Park.
We've
got
them
all
over
the
place
and
we've
not
done
a
whole
lot
with
them.
In
many
years
we
last
year
we
had
the
pier
directly
behind
the
Justice
Center,
just
the
the
one
that
juts
out.
We
rebuilt
that
with
the
money
that
we
had
available
last
year
this
year.
N
We
need
to
immediately
take
care
of
the
harbor
walk
pathway
as
it
turns
and
goes
around
the
Justice
Center,
and
what
we're
first
work
order
will
be
four
pile
jackets.
That
is
a
method
where
they
take
the
old
wooden
pile,
that's
rotted,
either
fully
or
partially,
and
they
put
a
sleeve
around
it
with
the
separation
and
they
fill
that
sleeve
with
epoxy.
N
That
that
locks
the
whole
piling
together
what
we
saw
on
the
the
Justice
Center
pier
the
pier,
was
in
very
good
shape,
except
for
this
much
of
the
pilings
two
foot
of
the
pilings
right
at
the
waterline
is
what
rots
out
the
rest
of
the
wood
was
great.
We
were
able
to
rebuild
that
one
for
10
to
20
thousand
dollars.
N
I
can't
remember,
but
so
we're
gonna
we'd
like
to
move
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
that
account
and
we'll
start
with
the
pile
jacket
projects
and
over
the
next
few
years,
we'll
be
adding
other
projects
similar
to
this
into
the
CIP,
so
that
we
can
take
care
of
the
things
the
handrails
and
the
decks
and
that
sort
of
thing.
Okay.
So
that's
what
we're
requesting
move?
200
thousand
dollars
from
the
storm
sewer
account.
N
We
we
have
two
pipes
to
do:
storms
who
are
realigning
on
they
cost
about
50
thousand
apiece
we're
holding
off
on
that,
though,
because
getting
the
contractor
to
town
the
mobilization
is
the
biggest
part
of
that.
So
we
will
continue
to
fund
that
account
in
a
couple
years,
we'd
like
to
call
them
in
and
actually
have
them
do,
four
or
five
at
that
time,
but
at
that
time,
what
that
account
will
be
built
back
up
to
do
four
or
five,
so
we
think
we'll
be
in
good
shape
with
this
budget
transfer.
Okay,.
F
E
Been
a
motion
in
a
second
for
this
particular
budget
item
and
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
motion
carries.
Thank
you
mark,
thank
you
and
get
those
projects
done.
I
know
you
did
a
great
job
on
helping
us
do
the
one
by
the
Justice
Center
and
a
really
cost-effective
manner.
So
thank
you.
A
For
the
record,
a
staff
recommends
award
of
an
agreement
to
Strickler
brothers,
underground
of
Fort
Meyers
for
water
main
improvements
on
Sullivan
Street
and
West
Merritt
West,
Olympia
Avenue.
The
project
will
include
removing
and
replacing
110
linear
feet
of
water
main.
The
lump
sum
cost
for
the
project
is
one
hundred
twenty
nine
thousand
seven
hundred
seventy
seven
dollars
and
forty
four
cents
timeline
for
completion
of
the
project
is
60
consecutive
days
after
the
notice
to
proceed.
A
Strickler
brothers
have
completed
projects
for
the
city
city
previously,
and
those
include
sewer
reconstruction
on
carmelita
replacement
of
manhole
on
Olympia
and
water
main
repair
on
Washington
Loop.
My
staff
is
also
present
to
provide
any
details
of
the
project
and
any
questions
that
you
do
have.
Thank
you.
Alright,.
H
Jackson
activities,
Park
Department
for
the
record,
as
Anne
said,
we
do
a
lot
of
work
with
Strickler
brothers
they're,
one
of
the
the
top,
in
our
opinion,
underground
contractors
in
the
area.
This
project
110
feet
of
water
line
the
waterline
broke
some
time
ago
and
due
to
its
proximity
to
the
storm
water
drain,
as
well
being
on
Sullivan
Street,
which
is
a
busy
street
in
town,
we
decided
looking
at
it
from
an
engineering
standpoint.
H
It
would
be
better
to
replace
that
older,
pipe
and
reconfigure
it
away
from
the
storm
water
drain,
so
that
it
would
last
a
lot
longer
and
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
it
anymore.
The
problem
is
it's
on
Sullivan
Avenue,
we
with
Strickler
brothers
when
we
have
the
pre-construction
meeting
with
them.
We
have
put
in
their
contract.
We
expect
them
we're
going
to
build
the
line
completely
in
place
and
then
tie
it
in
at
night
so
that
none
of
the
businesses
downtown
will
be
out
of
water.
H
We'll
do
the
tie
n
this
one's
lines
built,
they
won't
even
know
it
occurred.
Secondly,
the
paving
the
repaving
of
Sullivan
will
occur
at
night,
so
they'll
have
very
minimal
impacts,
hopefully
for
any
traffic
on
that
street.
Unfortunately,
the
excavation
work
itself
to
get
to
the
line
and
work
around
the
storm
water
drain,
we're
going
to
have
to
close
one
lane
of
Sullivan,
Street,
open
it
and
then
close.
The
next
Lane
Olympia,
Olympia,
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
sorry,
Olympia
to
get
to
Sullivan.
Yes,
okay,.
E
H
In
our
pre-construction
and
again
that
the
two-week
timeline
was
an
estimate
that
we,
the
Stricker
brothers,
gave
us
before
we
actually
sat
down
in
the
pre-construction
meeting.
We're
gonna
do
everything
we
can
to
make
that
quicker
as
possible,
obviously,
and
again,
with
the
stormwater
work
that
was
done
on
the
Olympia,
we're
very
sensitive
to
to
the
traffic
issues
down
in
that
area.
Comments.
H
L
H
H
E
E
C
This
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title:
only
resolution
of
the
City
Council
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
Florida,
authorizing
submission
of
abode
ariza
revolving
fund
grant
application.
The
Charlotte
County
marine
Advisory
Committee
Mac
for
the
buckley's,
pass
additional
harbour
access
project
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
sign
all
grant
documents
and
administer
the
grant
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
providing
an
effective
date.
This.
I
Is
a
grant
application
for
$500,000?
We
discussed
this
at
a
previous
council
meeting.
Our
Mac
liaison
will
be
with
the
Mac
committee,
along
with
city
staff
when
is
presented.
If
we're
successful,
all
these
funds
will
be
used
towards
the
project
construction,
which
will
thereby
reduce
an
assessment.
We
won't
know
until
the
Mak
committee
meets
anywhere
from
March
to
April
and
then
and
then
the
budget
gets
put
together
by
the
county
and
the
county
commissioners
approve
that
budget
in
September.
So
it's
gonna
be
a
long
time
till
we
finally
find
out
how
much?
F
F
E
N
Morning
you
get
more
daring,
Public
Works
reporting
on
the
seawall
update.
We
have
hit
a
snag
with
our
FEMA
funding
in
relation
to
our
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
Permit
our
Army
Corps
Engineers.
Permit
says
that
we
are
not
to
place
any
riprap.
Fema
tells
us
that
all
of
our
out
Falls
should
be
armored,
and
they
also
want
a
mitigation
project
of
armoring,
the
rest
of
the
sea
walls.
What
this
boils
down
to
is.
N
We
have
28
million
dollars
of
funding,
we're
looking
for
from
FEMA
for
the
sea
wall
replacement,
along
with
eight
million
dollars
of
mitigation
funding
for
additional
riprap
it
as
it
stands
now.
Fema
has
that
all
lumped
together
as
one
project
to
award
us
eventually
36
million
dollars
we're
asking
FEMA,
with
your
permission,
to
break
that
into
two
projects,
the
permitting
for
the
the
seawall
restorations
much
easier
through
Army
Corps
and
National
Marine
Fisheries.
We
can
separate
that
get
our
funds
obligated
get
reimbursed
for
that.
We'll
continue
to
work
toward
the
mitigation
project.
N
The
eight
million
dollar
project
FEMA
wants
us
very
much
to
complete
that,
but
National
Marine
Fisheries
says
that
riprap
is
not
good
for
these.
To
sawfish-
and
we
could
have
a
very
uphill
battle-
trying
to
put
10
miles
of
riprap
along
our
sea
walls,
so
we'll
continue
to
work
on
that
and
meet
with
those
folks
and
see
where
we
can
go,
but
we
think
it's
in
the
best
interests
of
the
city.
N
E
N
M
Kristen
Simeone
finance
director,
so
we
met
with
FEMA
along
with
engineering
and
they
would
like
us
to
continue
working
on
it
and
they
don't
necessarily
want
to
separate
the
project,
but
they
do
want
to
obligate
the
28
million.
While
we
continue
to
work
on
that
project,
but
again
they
still
have
to
go
to
their
upper
management
to
try
and
see.
If
that
will
be
something
that
would
be
possible.
M
Otherwise
it
may
just
have
to
be
completely
separate
projects
and
as
far
as
receiving
any
funding
right
now,
FEMA
has
not
even
obligated
our
fully
obligated
our
project,
so
that
has
gone
to
the
state
and
then
once
it
gets
to
the
state.
We
have
to
wait
for
them
to
obligate
the
project,
so
we
are
still
a
ways
away
and
with.
F
M
E
I
E
G
I
E
A
second
there's
been
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
splitting
the
funds
that's
been,
it
has
been
suggested
so
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
as
opposed
the
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
So
thank
you.
Okay,
the
next
item
under
new
business.
It's
safety
barriers
for
special
events.
We.
I
Received
we
all
received
an
email
from
a
gentleman
who
was
at
a
downtown
bash
event.
We
had
another
individual
had
a
medical
incident
and
the
vehicle
was
crashed
into
the
Sunhwa
parking
garage.
So
from
that,
the
person
is
suggesting
that
in
all
downtown
events,
whether
it
be
a
one-night
event
or
parades-
or
you
name
it-
that
the
city
put
measures
in
place
that
protect
the
folks
that
are
at
these
events
from
any
such
vehicular
type
accidents
in
the
future.
I
So
we
have
a
lot
of
questions
that
are
raced
by
that
and,
and
that
is
what
types
of
barriers
would
we
contemplate
who's
gonna
pay
for
the
cost
of
those
barriers,
who's
gonna,
install
them
and
take
them
out
for
each
event.
What
events
are
we
talking
about?
We
have
an
event:
Saturday
called
the
Christmas
parade.
Are
we
expecting
to
put
up
at
the
Christmas
parade
to
pay
for
the
Charlet
County
Chamber
to
pay
for
barriers
at
every
single
intersection
along
the
parade
route?
We
have
the
Charlotte
County
homecoming
parade.
I
We
have
the
Martin
Luther
King
parade.
We
have
the
Veterans
Day
parade.
We
had
the
tree
lighting
last
Friday
night.
Yes,
we
closed
off
the
street.
The
block
party
closes
off
streets
now,
fortunately,
they
put
musical
stages
at
the
intersections.
Could
a
car
drive
around
those
stages
and
come
in
I?
Guess
if
somebody's
having
a
medical
incident
every
Saturday,
we
have
the
farmers
market.
What
are
we
going
to
be
expecting
the
farmers
market
to
do
and
we
do
have
downtown
bashes?
We
have
events
at
marketplace
property.
I
E
F
Unfortunately,
it
happened
because
of
a
medical
incident.
It
was
an
isolated
incident
and
I
think
it's
complete
overreach
on
the
part
of
city
government
to
try
to
put
anything
in
place
as
an
ordinary
or
a
rule
that
that
people
would
have
to
adhere
to
not
only
that
we
don't
have
funds
to
be
doing
this
kind
of
a
project.
The
one
example
that
was
given
in
our
package,
one
community
paid
over
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
bollards
I,
mean
a
lot
of
money,
a
lot
of
projects
with
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
F
You
know
there
are
other
ways
that
we
can.
We
can
encourage
event
planners
to
cordon
off
their
areas.
I've
talked
with
John
from
the
chamber,
and
one
of
the
things
that
could
be
done
is
that
they
can
park
cars
across
an
intersection.
In
the
case
of
like
the
downtown
Bash,
they
could
park
two
cars
to
block
off
that
Street.
It
won't
completely
prohibit
anybody
from
driving
through
it.
F
If
there
was
an
incident,
however,
it
would
keep
people
out
it
would
it
would
be
one
way
of
doing
it,
but
if
you're
talking
about
bringing
in
cement
Highway
barriers,
who's
gonna
bring
them
in
and
who's
gonna
bring
them
out
and
do
it
in
a
timely
manner.
On
a
weekend
when
there's
an
event
going
yeah.
D
E
The
other
thing
I
think
it
was
mentioned.
It
was
a
medical
incident.
A
medical
incident
can
happen
at
any
time.
It
doesn't
happen
just
it's
not
exclusive
to
events,
so
that
would
mean
we
need
to
have
some
kind
of
barrier
system
all
around
our
whole
city,
to
protect
ourselves
and
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
going
to
be
practical,
well,.
F
F
E
Would
agree
with
you
I
think
that
you
know
having
safety
as
a
for
individual
businesses
or
whatever
that's
certainly
fine,
having
bollards
in
front
of
the
public's
where
people
are
going
into
the
grocery
store.
That's
certainly
one
thing,
but
for
us
to
do
this
in
general
is
not
is
not
necessary
at
this
time.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
it
up.
E
I
F
Then
I
think
it's
a
really
good
ordinance.
However,
I
would
like
to
take
it
a
step.
Further
I
would
like
for
this
to
also
be
applicable
to
properties
on
the
41
corridor
and
also
the
17
corridor,
because
I
think
those
are
just
as
important
for
future
development
and
I
think
I'd
like
to
give
potential
developers
an
opportunity
to
use
this
as
their
guideline
for
building
code.
F
D
E
E
They
are
currently
in
the
highway
commercial
zoning
district,
and
what
that
says
is
that
the
building
needs
to
be
up
at
at
the
road,
which
is
why
we
have
the
7-eleven
okay
built
toward
41.
And
all
these
said.
No.
We
want
to
be
back
with
parking
in
front
and
it
was
determined
by
the
Planning
Commission
reviewed
it
and
recommended
that
these
that
we
have
established
a
new
category
of
for
our
zoning.
That
would
allow
for
this,
it's
more
appropriate
out
along
the
interstate
and
in
that
area,
to
have
this
type
of
with
the
parking
in.