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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 12 06 17 Part 3
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A
C
D
One
of
the
things
they
talked
about
were
the
need
for
shade
structures
and
I,
and
so
at
some
point
in
time,
whether
it's
something
like
this
or
whatever,
but
the
topic
of
shade
is
important
and
whether
that's
through
trees
or
whatever,
but
I,
think
also
the
the
idea
of
some
kind
of
landscaping.
I
saw
that
and
it
made
me
think
of
the
green
gums,
so
the
picture
that
she
had
here
so
that
there's
landscaping
along
the
sidewalks
that
go
from
red
Esplanade
to
the
harbor
walk.
D
E
Would
also
like
to
ask
if
we
could
please,
in
Friday's
weekly
report,
come
up
with
a
concise
synopsis
of
what
was
done
in
phase
one
and
why
we
haven't
done
all
the
renovations
that
people
are
asking
for
right
now
there
I
have
had
a
number
of
people
say.
The
city
manager's
report
needs
to
give
us
an
update
of
all
the
things
and
the
reasons
why
I
mean
you
know.
We
know
that
the
contractor
hasn't
turned
the
park
over
to
us.
Yet,
yes,
he.
C
C
E
B
I
think
most
people
understand
that
there
was
one
pot
of
money
that
did
some
of
what
we
wanted
to
do
and
now
that's
completed
and
now
the
city
you
know
other
funds,
sales,
tax
and
general
fund
are
the
next
phase
so
that
it
was
limited
by
finances
really
and
it
had
to
be
its
own
discreet
project.
But
really
we
did
okay
working
around
that
because
we
got
started
on
the
playground.
We
were
able
to
do
that
in
the
mean
time.
So
we
know
that
yes,.
E
B
F
Just
would
like
to
point
out
too,
because
I
I
was
very
sensitive
to
what
the
gentleman
was
saying
regarding
the
guitar
army
and
to
be
able
to
enhance
accessibility
to
these
are
things
that
you
know.
Hopefully
we
can.
We
can
work
out
in
the
in
the
in
the
future
to
make
the
make
that
the
temper
those
issues
and
in
that
in
that
vein,
I
just
want
to
point
out
there's
with
the
playground.
We
had
a
budget.
We
had
so
much
in
our
pot
citizens.
F
There
was
a
group,
a
large
group
of
citizens
that
wanted
more
accoutrements
and
they
came
to
the
table
to
assist
us
in
that
and
I
see,
no
reason
why
we
shouldn't
solicit
other
community
groups
that
want
the
specific
accouterments
that
we
would
like
also
to
to
help
us
step
up
the
pot.
You
know
to
the
plate
with
us
and
work
with
us,
because
this
is
an
incredible
asset
that
we
have
here
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
static
asset.
F
B
B
B
B
I
mean
we've
talked
about
this
before
you
know
the
the
pavers
that,
instead
of
asphalt
concrete
parking,
lot
different
materials
that
we
could
use
that
our
drainage
friendly,
we
can
explore
some
of
those
options
like
we
get
a
lot
of
those
email.
I
get
a
lot
of
those
emails,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
from
going
to
the
league
conferences
or
what,
but
a
lot
of
those
different
materials
that
have
been
used
to
create
parking
lots
and
not
have
to
create
more
stormwater.
That
would
be
ideal.
H
Morning
mark
airing,
following
the
loss
of
all
a
lot
of
sea
walls
in
the
canal
system,
we've
had
a
great
increase
in
complaints
about
boat
speeds.
We
have
prepared
a
little
presentation
for
you
here.
Basically,
we
have
three
different
signs
up
in
the
canals.
This
was
an
education
process
for
myself
as
well.
We
have
the
slow
speed
and
idle
speed
signs
that
our
regulatory
they've
been
put
up
under
permits
and
we've
just
recently
added
this
slowdown
sign.
H
There's
a
better
picture
of
it.
We
have
those
available
at
Public,
Works,
Marine
Patrol
has
been
given
a
stack
of
them
and
they're,
given
out
by
request
the
majority
of
the
canals
in
Punta
Gorda
and
Punta
Gorda
and
burn
store
aisles
our
slow
speed
minimum
week.
There
are
a
few
congestion
points
where
we
have
idle
speed,
no
wake
signs
and
we'll
get
into
them.
We
just
recently
replaced
all
of
these
signs
through
a
grant
at
the
the
Mack
and
here's
the
map
showing
where
the
signs
now
these
areas
in
in
a
pink
purple
color
there.
H
H
das
sirs
house
is
an
idle
speed
area
and
then
pompano
Inlet
that
small
area
there,
where
their
boats
are
turning
and
going
both
ways
that
is
idle
speed
area
and
up
by
fisherman's
village,
is
an
idle
speed
area
everywhere
else
in
the
canal
system,
the
marina
approaching
them
our
slow
speed,
that's
how
it's
posted
and
that's
what
we
permitted
to
put
in
there.
We
can
put
new
signs
in
the
canal
system.
We
have
the
jurisdiction
to
to
regulate
the
speeds
in
those
canals.
H
If
we
put
those
signs
on
piling
they're
about
fifteen
hundred
dollars
a
piece,
it
does
require
that
we
get
a
de
minimis
exemption
through
DEP
in
order
to
ensure
that
we've
not
polluted
the
waters
or
anything
by
putting
a
pile
in
in
submerging
the
pile,
but
I'll
be
glad
to
take
any
questions.
If
we
want
to
get
into
talks
about
enforcement
or
police
is
here
and
I'm
sure
the
attorney
can
explain
definitions
of
idle
speed
and
slow
speed,
and
all
of
that
did
you
put
this
line
up.
H
F
Okay,
so
this
is
the
inlet
to
get
to
the
Yacht
Club
right.
Yes,
you
know
one
of
the
difficulties
here
of
sometimes
not
all
the
time,
but
sometimes
with
no-wake
is
if
the
wind
is
coming
heavily
out
of
the
Northeast
discs,
it's
pretty
rough
until
you
get
to
just
the
point
at
the
end
of
the
point
and
to
be
able
to
main
control
of
a
significant
sized
boat,
you're
gonna
have
to
come
in,
at
least
at
four
knots.
F
H
I
I
So
we
can't
just
simply
put
signs
in
the
canal
without
getting
approval,
which
is
why
the
informational
signs
that
talked
about
that
one
has
presented
that
the
property
owners
are
putting
on
their
own
property
is
permissible
because
it's
not
in
the
water.
However,
it's
not
enforceable
because
it's
not
improved
as
a
regulatory
sign.
So
then
we
take
to
them.
Let's
go
to
the
next
step.
The
next
step
is
okay,
even
if
we
went
and
got
permission
from
the
Fish
and
Wildlife
Commission,
with
respect
to
the
signs
that
are
necessary
to
try
to
protect
property.
I
From
from
these
wakes,
the
the
question
becomes.
Okay,
what
type
of
sign
are
we
going
to
be
looking
for,
and
the
two
options,
as
it's
been
discussed,
are
idle
speed,
no
wake,
which
is
also
similarly
called
interchangeably,
idle
speed
and
the
other
is
slow,
speed
or
slow
speed,
minimum
wage,
and
so
what
does
that
mean?
Well,
there
is
a
specific
definition
which
all
I'll
read
to
you,
and
then
you
can
tell
me
as
a
practical
matter.
I
You
know
as
a
practical
matter:
how
do
you
ever?
How
can
we
enforce
this?
So
the
idle
speed?
No
wait
that
the
no-wake
zones
that
we're
talking
about
it
means
that
a
vessel
must
be
fully
off
plane
and
completely
settled
into
the
water.
The
vessel
must
then
proceed
at
a
speed
which
is
reasonable
and
prudent
under
this
prevailing
circumstances,
so
as
to
avoid
the
creation
of
an
excessive
wake
or
I'm,
sorry
did
I
say
no
wake.
Let
me
start.
Let
me
back
up
and
start
with
the
no
wake.
I
Yes,
I
don't
mean
to
confuse
the
situation
any
more
than
there
already
is
confusing.
No
wake.
No
wake
means
that
a
vessel
must
proceed
at
a
speed,
no
greater
than
that
than
that
which
will
maintain
steerage
way
and
headway.
Okay
at
no
time
is
any
vessel
required
to
proceed
so
slowly
that
the
operator
is
unable
to
maintain
control
over
the
vessel
or
any
other
vessel
or
object
that
is
under
tow.
I
What
is
reasonable
under
the
circumstances?
How
do
you
determine
from
one
vessel
to
another
whether
they're
going
just
fast
enough
to
maintain
steerage
way
and
headway?
Is
you
know,
I,
don't
know
how
you
really
realistically
do
that
from
an
enforcement
perspective.
Then
let's
talk
about
the
slow
speed
minimum
wait.
I
Now
again,
how
do
you
determine
whether
the
wake
is
excessive
I
also
heard
the
threat
of
a
class-action
lawsuit
against
the
city
for
failing
to
protect
the
properties
that
are
now
exposed
as
a
result
of
sea
wall
damage?
Well,
interestingly,
enough
I,
you
know
I
started
looking,
you
know
what
can
we
do
in
a
regulatory
fashion
that
would
be
approved
by
the
Florida
Fish
and
Wildlife
Commission
to
protect
our
upland
properties?
So
there's
a
thing
called
a
caution
zone.
I
The
caution
zone
means
an
area
presenting
a
significant
risk
of
navigational
hazard,
an
area
frequently
an
inhabited
by
manatees
on
a
somewhat
regular
basis
or
other
area,
similarly
requiring
that
vessels
be
operated
with
particular
alertness
and
caution
as
to
avoid
endangering
life,
limb,
vessel
traffic
safety
or
maritime
property
or
manatees.
So
I'm
saying:
okay,
well,
maritime
property.
You
know
this
is
look,
maybe
that's
our
solution,
at
least
on
a
temporary
basis.
I
So
you
go
up
to
the
definition
of
maritime
property
and
it
says
this
definition
does
not
include
littoral
riparian
property,
the
shores
thereof,
seawalls
docks,
wharves
or
other
property
intentionally
and
permanently
attached
to
the
shore.
So
we
can't
even
get
into
the
regulation
of
vessel
speed
to
protect
upland
properties,
so
our
hands
are
tied
from
a
regulatory
perspective,
with
respect
to
doing
something
that
regulates
the
speeds
or
prohibits
boats
from
from
going
through.
I
A
public
waterway
I
was
I
was
intrigued
by
the
discussion
regarding
Archimedes
principle,
but
we
really
have
no
authority
to
regulate
speed
in
order
to
protect
property.
Now,
as
I
said,
reading
those
definitions
of
no-wake
minimum
wake,
in
my
view,
as
as
a
as
a
prosecutor,
would
define
an
easy
solution
to
be
able
to
prove
that
there's
been
a
violation
of
the
regulation,
but
I
did
some
further
research
and
because
we're
not
the
only
jurisdiction
in
the
state
of
Florida
that
has
this
problem.
I
Brevard
County,
no
SUNY,
Broward
County,
had
it
had
a
an
idea,
thinking
out
of
the
box
that
they
ultimately
got
approved
by
the
Florida
Fish
and
Wildlife
Commission,
where
they
actually
made
the
Wake
subject
to
some
type
of
objective
criteria,
and
in
that
case
they
determined
that
the
wake
that
they
wanted
to
prohibit
as
being
excessive
had
to
be
a
certain
identifiable
height.
A
certain
identifiable
distance
from
the
boat
and
I.
I
Don't
have
the
exact
information
in
front
of
me,
but,
for
example,
they
would
say
that
that
to
be
no
Wake
would
require
that
the
Wake
produced
by
a
boat
should
not
exceed
one
foot.
When
measured
above
above
Stillwater,
one
measured
25
feet
from
the
boat,
so
if
you
figure
out
what
25
feet
is
from
the
boat,
you
see
this
wake
that
that's
great
one
foot
or
greater
than
that.
That
would
be
a
violation
of
that
regulation.
I
Anything
less
than
one
feet,
25
feet
away
would
not
be,
and
the
idea
being
that
most
people,
or
certainly
those
that
are
particularly
trained
to
look
out
for
this-
could
probably
ascertain
what
is
one
foot
above
Stillwater
and
what
is
25
feet
now.
You
can't
go
out
there
really
realistically
with
a
measuring
stick,
but
when,
but
most
people
could
probably
say
if
it
was
two
feet,
maybe
not
1.2
feet
but
two
feet
above
the
Stillwater,
so
that
that
is
something
that
we
could
consider
adopting.
I
But
then,
in
order
to
get
to
that
point,
we
have
to
figure
out
what
is
the
appropriate
height
above
Stillwater
that
would
be
necessary
and
how
far
from
the
boat
would
that
be?
Okay,
that
would
be
necessary,
but
bearing
in
mind
that
the
basis
for
that
can't
be
the
protection
of
the
upland
property.
So
you
know
why
go
through
that
exercise
if
it
can't
achieve
the
objective
of
protecting
upland
property,
so
I
don't
have
a
solution.
I
can
simply
give
you
what
our
limitations
are
and
and
I
don't
have
a
solution.
I
It's
a
tough
problem,
I
think
I.
Think
education
is
typically
the
answer
to
situations
like
this,
where
the
public
becomes
more
sensitized
or
more
aware
of
the
problem
that
wakes
caused
to
the
upland
properties,
the
signage
that
we
were
talking
about
earlier,
putting
on
the
upland
property
to
remind
people
to
slow
down,
particularly
when
there's
no
seawall,
those
all
could
probably
help
greater
than
any
regulation
that
we
adopt
and
the
opportunity
to
try
to
enforce
that
regulation.
G
Would
say
as
part
of
them
you
know
we
are
rebranding
ourselves
as
returning
to
our
better
selves,
probably
being
more
civil
to
each
other
should
be
something
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
can
do
ourselves.
We
don't
necessarily
have
to
regulate
people
I
think
if
we
act
like
responsible
neighbors
that
we
can
achieve
as
minimal
weight
as
possible
around
people's
properties
and
I
think
they
signs
would
be
a
good
idea.
The
ones
on
people's
property
people
know
that
you
go
into
sensitive
areas.
B
Think
it's
all
relative
to,
like
you
were
saying,
I
had
a
discussion
about
jets.
We
have
jet
skis
and
you
know
you
have
to
give
it
a
little
gas
to
be
able
to
steer
it.
So
you're
maybe
going
three
miles
an
hour,
but
people
still
come
out
and
yell
and
they
say
slow
down.
But
if
you
don't
give
it
any
gas,
you
can't
get
home
like
like
what
you
were
saying.
B
There
comes
a
point
where
you're
going
as
slow
as
you
possibly
can
to
to
get
to
where
you
need
to
be,
and
still
the
people
mostly
on
the
corner
there
they
get
real
upset
and
you're
going
three.
You
know
when
a
boat
goes
by
going
three.
It
doesn't
seem
so
bad,
but
for
some
reason,
the
jet
ski,
which
they
really
don't,
throw
that
much
weight
for
the
you
know,
there's
small
vehicles,
but
you
have
to
give
it
the
gas
to
make
it
operable
sure.
F
B
D
Nancy,
you
know
I
know
in
our
area.
The
Boat
Club
has
done
a
lot
of
it
over
the
years
for
education,
and
so
a
lot
of
people
that
are
more
connected
are
aware,
but
it
seems
like
from
discussions.
I
have
with
people
that
live
in
my
area
and
brinstar
Isles
that
it's
people
who
live
there,
who
don't
participate
in
any
of
these,
so
they
aren't
informed
and
they're
the
ones
who
are
zipping
through
the
canals
and
and
creating
the
wake
consistently
doing
this.
D
So
it's
it's
reaching
that
it's
reaching
the
people
that
we
you
know
we
can
put
the
newsletter
out.
We
can
put
you
know
we
can
ask
our
Punta
Gorda
boaters
Alliance
to
do
the
same.
We
can
ask
all
the
boat
clubs
and
to
do
the
same,
but
it's
there
are
so
many
people
who
aren't
a
member
who
aren't
getting
the
message
and
who
aren't
adhering
it's
the
same
problem
that
the
state
of
Florida
has
with
the
the
boater
cards.
They
want
everybody
to
be
an
educated
but
er.
D
H
E
E
And
even
if
it's
the
volunteer
boat,
they
see
those
lights
on
top
of
the
boat
and
they
slow
down
and
they've
parked
their
boat
on
the
vacant.
Lot.
Next
to
me
and
I,
let
them
sit
on
my
property
and
I
fed
them.
I,
fed
them,
coffee
and
donuts,
and
they
the
cops
will
sit
there
and
they
will
call
ahead
on
the
radio
to
the
police
boat
and
by
the
time
they
get
past
my
boat.
My
boat
sticks
out
pretty
far.
E
It's
not
further
than
it's
allowed,
but
it
sticks
out
so
that
it's
it's
in
the
it's
visible
in
the
water.
Let's
put
it
that
way
and
when
they
get
around
my
boat
and
they
see
the
police
boat,
it's
like
boom,
they
pull
the
throttle
back
and
I
have
actually
gone
out
and
I've
asked
people
to
slow
down
and
I
get
the
middle
finger
salute.
So
people
are
not
civil,
they
are
not
civil.
E
When
it
comes
to
what
they
want
to
do
on
their
boat,
you
don't
have
to
have
a
license
to
operate
a
boat
in
the
state
of
Florida.
That's
a
big
problem,
that's
something
that
the
state
could
really
make
a
lot
of
money
on
if
they
really
got
smart
about
it,
but
we
don't
have
that
and
only
way
that
we're
gonna,
slow
people
down
is
signage
and
enforcement
on
the
water,
and
we
have
to
do
that.
We
have
to
do
a
better
job
of
that.
That
will
fix
a
lot
of
the
problem
and,
as
mr.
E
Jones
alluded
to
earlier
this
morning,
we
do
need
enforcement
on
the
water.
That
was
a
really
big
part
of
it.
That's
one
of
the
only
things
that
actually
slows
the
boats
down.
Saturday
I
had
my
house
open.
We
were
doing
Christmas,
decorating
and
I
actually
actually
heard
about
go
by
my
boat
and
then
hit
the
throttle
and
speed
up
to
go
the
rest
of
the
way
home.
E
Because
he's
going
around
that
big
parcel
of
property
on
aqui
esta,
we
I'm
on
the
back
side
of
it
and
they
they
hit
the
throttle
and
they
go
full-bore
back
to
their
house.
And
it's
almost
always
the
people
who
are
from
those
condos
on
the
streets
off
of
Ikea
stock
and
those
are
seasonal
residents
in
many
cases,
and
they
don't
pay
attention
to
the
rules.
They
don't
get
the
newsletter
from
the
city
managers
report.
E
They
don't
understand
the
rules,
they
don't
read
the
newspaper
and
they
really
don't
care
so
they're
here
on
vacation
they're
out
for
a
quick
ride
for
the
day
they
go
out
on
a
fishing
trip
or
a
lunch
cruise
and
they're
just
not
going
to
pay
attention
unless
two
police
boats
out
there
telling
them
they
have
to
slow
down
or
if
they
see
a
sign.
So
that
to
me
is
the
only
way
we're
going
to
get
this
fixed,
but
we
do
have
to
do
something
it's
out
of
control
right
now,
on.
G
J
The
Marine
volunteer
program:
they
do
have
the
authority
on
limited
basis
to
enforce
some
of
the
marine
chapters
of
the
of
the
Code
of
Ordinances,
including
wake
violations.
You
know
it's
important
to
understand.
Our
Marine
volunteer
program
is
just
that.
It's
a
volunteer
program
and
it's
been
a
very
successful
program.
I
had
some
some
information
provided
to
me,
and
this
is
good.
General
information
from
I
understand
just
a
marine
volunteers,
but
the
the
amount
of
waterways
that
we
have.
We
have
those
folks
they've
been
doing
this
for
years.
J
J
Well,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that
means,
if
they
get
to
every
canal
in
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
they're
only
able
to
do
that
two
times
in
a
month
and
that's
on
there
for
our
patrols
and
remember
they're
out
there
five
days
a
week
patrolling
that's
assuming
that
everything
else
is
perfect.
Our
vessels
not
broken
and
there's
not
others,
so
you
know
other
significant
issues
going
on
that
we're
diverting
resources
to
so
just
alone
and
they're
putting
in
thousands
of
hours
on
that
boat
every
year.
J
E
J
J
And
we
understand
that
I
mean
we
are
certainly
patrolling
those
areas.
Officer
Kennedy,
because
our
Marine
officer
has
focused
on
some
of
those
key
areas
have
been
identified
as
being
the
more
critical
infrastructures,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
there
you
know,
that's
the
question
that
and
we'll
we'll
do
whatever
the
city
wants
us
to
do.
If
we
want
to
divert
resources
from
road
patrol
and
don't
patrol
the
roadways-
and
you
know
reduce
our,
you
know
our
call
level,
then
we
can
go
and
divert
it
to
another
area.
That's
that's!
E
B
F
Think
and
Jason
you
made
a
you
said
a
word,
those
key
areas
I
I
don't
perceive
the
degree
of
the
issue
on
my
little
Sailfish
I,
think
it
Papa
Noah
does
which
you
have
to
get
to
to
get
to
me.
But
then
you
get
under
the
bridge
when
they're
coming
past,
my
house,
they're,
not
they're,
not
on
plane.
With
that
said,
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
for
me
to
get
out
to
big
water
is
less
than
five
minutes,
because
I'm
real
close
when
you're
back
there
and
the
and
the
until
the
cut
is
done.
F
Some
people
have
as
much
as
an
hour
and
a
half
and
there
may
be
a
little
bit
of
or
whatever
it
is,
and
I'm
saying
is.
Maybe
those
areas
should
be
focused
on
more
than
by
me
because,
as
you
point
out,
and
as
we,
we
only
have
so
much
resources
and
our
resources
are
spread
thin
as
it
is
because
of
various
circumstances.
So
I
think
that
maybe
we
should
be
identifying
those
key
areas
that
maybe
are
the
the
largest
the
most
egregious
areas
that
are
being
violated
and
I.
F
B
The
more
of
those
those
signs
we
could
get
posted
I,
don't
know
how
many
they've
distributed,
but
maybe
we
should
make
a
more
concerted
effort.
We
know
who
them,
who
the
erosion
people
are,
that
we're
going
to
be
helping.
Maybe
we
should
take
one
to
every
house
that
we
visit
on
that
program
in
the
in
the
minimum.
I
mean
if
they're
there.
If
you
keep
seeing
them
I.
B
J
I
Yeah
I
wanted
to
at
least
clarify
something
that
I
said
from
a
legal
perspective,
whereas
the
definitions
that
I
read
to
you
may
not
have
a
whole
lot
of
meaning
to
a
non
boater
or
a
non
powerboat.
Er
and
I'm
gonna
ask
a
question
that
in
law
school
they
told
us
never
to
ask
a
question.
Unless
you
know
the
answer,
but
I'm
going
to
assume
that
our
our
volunteer
marine
patrol
officers
are
all
trained
in
how
to
distinguish
between
slow
speed
or
idle
speed,
no-wake
and
slow
speed
minimum
week.
I
So
the
professionals
know
the
difference
from
an
enforcement
perspective.
The
mere
fact
that
non,
boaters
or
casual
boaters
don't
doesn't
make
the
regulations
any
less
enforceable,
because
these
are
the
definitions
have
been
used
for
many
many
years
and
I'm
sure
they're
just
been
court
challenges
challenging
the
vagueness
or
whatever,
and
these
are
what
we
deal
with,
and
we've
got
trained
officers
that
deal
with
them
on
a
regular
basis.
B
C
C
We
heard
about
the
tour
boats,
we've
been
in
contact
with
the
major
tour
boat
motor
company
and
they
have
provided
us
all
the
things
that
they
are
doing
in
cognizant
of
the
fact
of
the
seat
wall
issue,
so
they're
very
well
aware
of
it,
and
they
have
put
procedures
in
place
with
their
captain's
to
try
and
minimize
any
further
impact,
especially
in
those
areas
that
they're
that
they
go
in,
because
those
are
the
hardest
impact
areas.
So
they're
very
well
aware
of
it.
C
C
We
agree.
It
is
your
call
to
make.
If
you
want
to
remove
an
item
from
your
claimed
damages,
you
may
do
so
without
any
ill
effects
or
repercussions
from
FEMA.
Now
what
that
means
is,
if
somebody
wants
to
construct
their
own
seawall
on
their
own
dime,
they
can
do
it
and
not
impact
our
reimbursement
program
from
FEMA.
Now.
C
We'll
make
that
announcement
and
we're
gonna
have
all
we're.
Gonna.
Have
certain
number
of
people
coming,
rushing
to
us
to
start
getting
contracts
in
place,
so
we
need
to.
We
need
a
few
days
here
to
get
our
act
together,
because
what
that
says,
we
already
know
a
few
that
I
want
to
start
right
away.
Okay,
fine,
some
people
have
resources
some
don't
our
job
is
to
make
look
out
for
the
common
good.
D
C
C
B
C
We'll
be
paying
they
will
in
my
mind,
the
resident
wants
to
do
the
whole
thing
on
their
dime.
They
will
do
it
on
their
dime.
They
will
not
be
reimbursed
by
us
after
the
fact,
because
it's
we're
not
gonna,
put
in
a
claim
for
that
seawall,
but
they
have
to
do
it
meeting
our
guidelines,
our
construct
standards.
C
D
C
D
E
C
E
C
B
H
I
could
I
spoke
to
the
building
official
this
morning
and
he
can
set
up
so
that
we
have
when
he
issues
the
permit.
He
says
the
minimum
fee
is
$100
and
he
will
set
up
the
inspections
that
we
normally
do
for
our
contractor,
so
that
that,
when
they're
putting
in
a
wall
up,
we
get
all
the
proper
inspections
and
he
can
handle
that
through
his
system.
C
B
B
H
C
B
C
D
I
B
B
K
So
we
have
three
shelters
now.
Instead
of
two,
we
have
the
large
shelters,
a
small
shelter
and
a
second
small
shelter
on
the
west
side
of
the
gazebo
and
at
the
gazebo.
We
now
have
a
plaza
that
is
in
front
of
the
gazebo,
which
could
be
rented
along
with
the
gazebo.
There
are
bollards
on
each
side
showing
where
the
one
arrow
is
pointing
toward
the
plaza
where
somebody
who
wanted
to
have
a
wedding
and
seating
area
in
front.
K
They
can
coordinate
off
with
chains
on
those
two
sets
of
bollards
and
still
have
a
sidewalk
that
goes
around
toward
the
open
space.
There
is
an
open
sidewalk
around
there.
We
do
have
any
open
space
event
lawn
along
I,
believe
it
Gill
Street
side.
We
do
have
bollards
where
they
are
removable,
so
we
can
drive
in
so
people
can
stage
for
the
events
there
and
then
leave.
You
know
when
they
put
there.
The
art
show
they
bring
in
their
trailers
and
set
everything
up,
and
these
are
the
proposed
Park
rental
fees.
K
K
Historically,
the
playground
area
pavilion
was
on
a
first-come,
first-serve
basis,
but
since
we
do
have
two
pavilions,
we
are
proposing
that
one
pavilion
one
be
able
to
be
rented
and
reserved
for
like
birthday
parties,
we
get
requests.
We
used
to
get
requests
like
that
for
the
previous
playground,
and
it
was
always
on
a
first-come,
first-served
basis.
That
was
the
policy
in
place,
but
we
would
let
people
know
in
our
park
rental
procedures
that
if
they
do
rent
a
pavilion,
the
one
pavilion
that's
available
to
be
rented
at
the
playground.
K
It's
not
exclusive
use
of
the
playground.
They
can't
close
the
playground
to
other
people
would
be
just
to
have
like
birthday
parties
and
such
at
the
current
time.
We
do
not
have
daily
rental
fees
for
Gilchrist
Park.
We
do
for
Lashley
Park
for
events,
and
we
do
have
events
that
want
to
use
Gilchrist
Park
such
as
arts
and
crafts
shows,
and
some
car
shows
a
daily
rental
rate,
maybe
it'll
bring
it
more
in
line
with
Lashley
Park
and
increasing
the
damage
deposit.
K
B
Right
resolution:
yes,
so
my
concern
is:
go
back,
one
slide
exclusive
use.
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
use
those
words
because
I'm
pretty
sure
we
don't
want
to
let
somebody
close
off
the
harbor
walk
for
an
event
in
Gilchrist
Park
I
mean
I,
know
we
were
asked
and
we
did
allow
one
event
to
do
so
because
they
wanted
to
use
the
gazebo
as
part
of
their
venue.
B
K
B
Yes
exactly
yes,
we
can
do
that,
though.
At
that
point,
though,
if
they
did
the
exclusive
use,
then
they
would
get
the
first-come,
first-serve
pavilion
as
well.
Yes,
okay.
The
other
question
I
have
about
the
pavilion
in
the
playground.
What,
if
I
mean
do
do
we
have
a
minimum
like
somebody
could
just
say?
Well,
I
only
want
one
hour
and.
K
B
K
E
K
Parks
are
posted.
We
have
boards
at
the
park,
so
I
don't
think
we
have
our
new
message
board
up
at
Gilchrist.
Yet
that
is
something
that
is
in
the
works,
but
all
the
other
parks
are
posted
on
a
weekly
basis
that
goes
out
I
believe
on
Thursdays
or
Fridays.
It
gets
posted
for
the
week
prior
or
the
upcoming
week.
K
We
recommend
that
any
renter
who
has
any
issue
with
somebody
being
in
a
pavilion
and
it's
posted-
we
give
them
a
copy
of
their
signed
rental
agreement
to
take
it
if
the
individual
or
the
people
who
are
there
don't
wish
to
leave,
we
suggest
they
call
the
non-emergency
police
number
and
have
them
come
out
and
assist
with
that.
I
think
we've
only
had
that
happen
a
couple
of
times.
That's
what
I
was
going
to
ask
you?
K
It's
not.
It
hasn't
been
in
the
ten
years
that
I've
been
involved
with
the
park
rentals
and
the
events
I
think
about
twice.
We've
had
issues
and
we
just
make
sure
they
have
an
executed
agreement
and
we
also
Jennifer
Dolman.
Who
is
our
executive
assistant?
She
sends
out
an
email
when
she
updates
the
park.
Rentals-
and
it
also
goes
to
the
police
department,
so
they
know
what
rentals
are
going
on
in
each
at
each
Park
in
each
facility.
B
C
B
D
E
C
I
Let
me
give
some
legal
overview
of
why
this
matters
before
you
following
the
last
code
enforcement
board
hearing,
which
was
where
they
were
considering
a
request
by
Winter
Park
dodge
to
reduce
the
amount
of
the
fines
that
were
recorded
for
their
failure
to
comply
with
a
number
of
code
enforcement
board
orders,
at
which
time
the
code
enforcement
board
declined
to
reduce
the
amount
of
fines.
And
let
me
just
say
that
the
code
enforcement
board
under
the
state's
statute
does
have
the
authority
to
consider
reductions
in
the
amount
of
the
fines,
including
reduction
to
zero.
But.
I
And
so
at
the
conclusion
of
that
meeting,
mr.
Plattner,
who
was
the
registered
agent
for
Winter
Park
dodge
sought
a
meeting
with
the
city
manager
and
I,
attended
that
meeting
and
during
the
course
of
that
discussion,
mr.
Plattner
asked.
Was
there
an
opportunity
for
him
to
make
a
presentation
to
the
City
Council
in
an
effort
to
achieve
a
result
which
he
was
unable
to
achieve
before
the
code
enforcement
board
and
I
explained
to
him
that
under
state
law,
the
City
Council
does
not
have
the
authority
to
reduce
a
a
code
enforcement?