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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 12-19-18 Part 1
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B
Our
Father
in
Heaven,
as
we
once
again,
enter
the
blessed
Advent
season
during
which
we
celebrate
the
birthday
of
our
only
Son.
We
again
come
before
you
to
invite
invite
their
blessings
on
these
meetings
and
we
in
which
we,
as
mere
men
and
women,
attempt
to
form
our
laws
and
govern
ourselves.
We
hope
and
pray
that
all
things
we
do
are
worthy
in
your
sight
and
ask
that
you
make
help
us
be
so,
and
let
us
at
this
time
not
forget,
remember
those
who
are
less
fortunate
than
ourselves
amen.
A
C
C
A
E
Okay,
before
I
before
I,
actually
give
the
official
proclamation
I
want
to
also
give
some
additional
recognition
to
the
the
marine
watch
watch
members
who
volunteered
it
says
safety,
boat
captains
for
this
year's
freedom
swim
just
tonight
of
a
note.
They
pulled
nine
swimmers
out
that
couldn't
complete
it.
E
It
wasn't
one
of
me
because
I
can't
swim,
and
so,
if
they're
here,
I'd
like
to
ask
them
to
stand
up
to
give
some
special
recognition,
but
I
want
to
give
a
special
thanks
to
Captain
John
get
getting
her
get
her
Jenna
gir
captain
Gary
Burgess,
captain
Gary
skill
horn,
captain
Mike
Doherty,
captain
Randy
Fleming,
captain
Chuck
Mattos
and
captain
Ron
Davis.
Thank
you
guys
very
much
for
a
captain
to
keeping
us
safe.
E
E
Ok,
Proclamation
City
have
put
to
garter
Florida,
whereas
the
put
to
go
to
Isles
neighborhood
Marine
Watch
was
formed
in
May
of
2009,
under
the
guidance
of
Bill
Gunther,
with
a
mission
to
provide
watch
and
report
surveillance
for
all
put
to
go
to
Isles
homes
and
property
owners
and
whereas
the
PGI
neighborhood
marine
watch,
the
only
nighttime
all
volunteer
on
the
water
patrol
effort
in
the
Punta
Gorda
Isles
canal
system
has
first
surveillance
patrol
on
June,
10th
2009
and
continues
to
this
day.
Reporting
all
observed.
E
Now,
therefore,
the
City
Council
of
the
have
put
the
gourd
of
Florida
does
hereby
proclaim:
Wednesday
December
19
2018
as
PGI
neighborhood
marine
watch
day
and
recognizes
the
outstanding
efforts
of
this
group
in
increasing
the
safety
and
security
of
the
Punta
Gorda
Isles
canal
system
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
This
19th
day
of
December
2018
signed
mayor
prof
d,
mayor
and
Karen
Smith
city
clerk
and
an
accepting
will
be
built.
F
D
F
A
group
of
this
nature
is
evidence
of
an
article
I
read
in
the
paper
this
morning
by
our
mayor.
It
is
a
community
engagement
at
the
heart
of
this
community.
We
had
one
mission
when
we
organized
it
was
to
be
a
deterrent.
It
is
all
we
could
be.
We
are
volunteers,
you
don't
feel
good.
You
don't
go
on
patrol
your
wife,
don't
feel
good,
you
don't
want
role.
Your
dog
is
sick.
F
You
don't
go
on
patrol,
but
there's
somebody
out
there
every
night,
someone
and
I
think
that's
what
we've
established
with
the
one
group
of
individuals,
which
would
be
our
commercial
fishermen
who
would
like
to
come
in
during
the
mullet,
runs
they're
not
allowed
to
use
nets
in
there.
As
everybody
knows,
I
can't
use
a
net,
you
can't
use
a
net
and
neither
can
they
and
I
think
we've
reached
a
point
where
they
understand
it.
If
they
see
us,
the
call
has
been
made
and
they
no
longer
want
to
risk
their
commercial
license.
F
A
All
right
with
the
next
time
on
the
agenda
is
the
introduction
of
board
or
committee
member
nominees.
So
if
there's
anyone
that
would
like
to
introduce
themselves
to
the
who's
nominated
for
a
board
or
committee
member
okay,
seeing
none
then
we'll
move
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
a
public.
Yes,.
F
I
I
The
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
may
allow
deviations
from
the
applicable
setback
requirements
based
upon
conditions
found
in
article
sixteen
point:
one:
zero
based
upon
that
with
the
lot
size
being
smaller
and
narrower
on
the
length
on
the
side.
It
is
only
a
hundred
and
three
feet
in
length
versus
what
most
of
them
are
120
feet
deep,
so
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this
request
here
with
any
questions.
D
G
J
I
Being
an
engineer
vice
mayor
I
can't
answer
that
question
I'm,
not
an
engineer.
I
wouldn't
know
how
the
structure
could
work.
I
know
there
is
a
certain
distance
from
the
house
to
the
pool
that
has
to
be
maintained,
but
that
would
be
more
of
a
building
department.
Question
I
can
answer
that.
Okay
do.
A
I
E
E
I
might
might
just
point
out
for
point
of
reference
under
other
special
conditions
for
emerald
point.
We
made
exceptions
for
their
their,
in
their
case,
a
continuing
coding
between
some
distance
between
the
pool
and
the
or
in
their
case,
the
LAN
eyes
and
the
seawall
so
I'm
not
sure
that
unless
there's
a
structural
issue
that
would
jeopardize
to
sea
wall
itself,
I
don't
see
a
particular
problem.
With
this,
let.
E
A
A
K
A
I
D
I
A
G
G
K
D
A
Okay,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
One
of
the
things
you
submitted.
What
were
letters
from
doctors
in
Russia?
A
J
Well,
I
guess:
I
have
a
question:
I
mean
I
still
think
that,
judging
from
the
way,
the
site
plan
is
laid
out,
as
Nancy
has
said,
my
pool
is
not
that
wide
and
I.
Don't
I
still
don't
understand.
Why
why
this
could
not
be
amended
so
that
we
could
at
least
get
a
couple
more
feet
in
from
the
seawall
we
have
found
since
all
the
hurricane
damage.
J
We
have
some
houses
that
were
built
a
lot
closer
to
the
seawall,
then
they
should
have
been
originally
and
we
have
issues
with
sea
walls
and
we
have
issues
with
pool
decks.
Were
that
we're
getting
correct
when
the
sea
walls
caved
in
and
I'm
very
concerned,
and
this
as
I
understand
it.
This
is
an
original
seawall
on
this
property
from.
I
J
I
can
tell
you
from
personal
perspective
when
my
seawall
was
redone
a
few
years
ago,
and
they
had
to
take
away
half
of
my
backyard.
I
was
very
concerned
that
we
were
gonna
lose
some
stuff
in
my
backyard,
and
so
this
concerns
me
anytime.
We
have
a
variance
that
encroaches
on
that
20
foot
setback
I
would
I
would
really
like
to
see
the
site
plan
modified
personally
jaha
I.
M
Mean
I
think
this
is
for
his
quality
of
life
and
I
mean
I'm
more
concerned
about
him
being
able
to
have
what
he
needs
to
be
able
to
recover.
Matically
I
think
that's
most
important
I
mean
if
they
wish
to
take
that
a
risk
of
losing
a
few
feet.
I
think
he
has
the
right
to
do
that.
I
think
that
his
quality
of
life
is
much
more
important.
I'm.
M
A
K
A
I
G
The
desire
for
the
pool
as
it
may
be
beneficial
to
the
applicant's
health
is
whether
twelve
feet
is
the
minimum
variance
necessary
to
allow
for
that,
and
you
can
request
further
testimony
if
you
need
to
from
the
applicant,
you
can
use
your
own
common
knowledge
as
to
whether
or
not
to
twelve
feet
is
the
minimum
necessary.
But
that's
I
think
what
you
we
should.
We
should
be
focusing
on
I.
A
A
Purchased,
the
property
there
is
no
home
built
on
it
at
this
point
in
time,
and
so
it
would
seem
that
you
know
one
would
need
to
investigate
whether
what
you
were
looking
for
is
possible
to
build
on
something
before
you
go
through
with
that.
So
I
think
that
you
know
if
I
feel
like
it's
like
purchasing
it
and
coming
to
us
and
saying
it
didn't
fit,
but
I
want
to
make
it
fit.
A
A
A
A
K
H
N
N
N
N
The
pain
in
the
leg,
maybe
is
phantom
pain
in
my
my
my
brain,
but
it
doesn't
matter
I,
don't
can
work
in
a
lot
of
time,
don't
and
riding
bicycle
one
time
kind
of
swimming
long
time.
Disease
lack
in
this
case
the
therapy
they
suggest
me
to
swimming,
but
when
I
swimming
I
must
to
moving
worth
of
wax
and
the
one
lacks
its
type
very
quickly
and
pain.
In
this
case,
my
big
friend
in
Russia
to
recommend
me
to
not
to
use
monofin.
N
My
wife
has
show
this
special
monofin,
because,
when
I
put
monofin
on
this
reflex,
when
a
moving
legs
to
help
to
right,
in
this
case,
I'm
moving
in
the
swimming
pool,
it's
not
swimming
pool.
For
me,
it's
special
moving,
because
when
I
moving,
I
make
a
push
with
this
monofin
and
and
moving
maybe
80
60
feet
long
without
moving.
N
Change
my
brain
like
like
sleeping
because
when
I
sleeping
at
home,
it's
pain
and
headache
is
something
like
that,
and
nightmares
and
I
cannot
sleep
because
the
body
is
weight
and
the
body
is
not
good
condition
and
when
I
moving
in
the
water
I
have
a
body.
I
arrive
in
space,
and
it's
helped
me
to
sleep
when
I'm
moving,
maybe
several
seconds,
but
it's
enough
to
reset
and
the
pain
is
come
out
step
by
step.
N
D
N
Living
and
I
find
this
very
nice
place.
It's
I
fall
in
love
with
this
place.
Punta
Gorda,
Isles,
I,
love
this
place
and
I
want
time
to
find
the
place
to
possible
to
put
the
swimming
pool
already.
The
swimming
pool
must
be
75
feet
long,
because
I
can
pushing
four
times
exactly
four
times,
because
one
time
another
side
and
I
told
you
to
turn
over
with
this
and
the
same,
telling
us
and
several
times
to
moving
like
this,
it
is
only
one
way
to
help
me
with
my
my
problems
and.
N
N
N
L
N
G
N
N
G
N
N
K
A
E
The
issues
I'm
very
sympathetic
to
to
what
you're
asking
for,
but
the
doctors
that
you
referring
to
can
be
anywhere
from
forty
five
hundred
to
twelve
thousand
miles
away,
depending
whether
you're
in
the
year
old
district
or
the
eastern
or
whatever
I'm
just
saying,
and
it
would
be
to
me
beneficial
if
you
had
presented
to
us
information
where
it
had
been
translated
to
us
through
a
doctor
that
speaks
our
language.
Also
I
understand
that
I'm
just
saying
I'm
epithet
to
that.
But
I'd
been
more
comfortable
with
that.
G
Now,
in
order
to
qualify
for
that,
there's
certain
buzzwords
that
physician
medical
providers
are
required
to
include
in
their
report
to
satisfy
the
requirements
of
the
statute
itself
as
as
provide
as
it
provides
the
definition
for
a
disabled
person
and
also
what
the
minimum
requirements
would
be
in
order
to
afford
the
opportunity
for
a
person
with
a
disability
to
enjoy.
My
concern
is
that
we
don't
have
the
buzzwords
here
and
in
fact
we
have
more
medical
information
before
us,
then
is
what
would
we
be
required
under
the
ADA?
G
A
the
a
da
doesn't
give
us
the
opportunity,
and
and
and
nor
should
it
to
actually
inquire
into
the
specifics
of
the
of
the
medical
or
mental
issues.
But
a
physician-
that's
that's!
That's
knowledgeable
about
the
requirements
of
the
a
da
or
with
some
simple
research
can
provide
us
with
the
appropriate
documentation
and
the
other.
The
other
and
and
I
would
call
this
a
therapy
pool.
G
And
to
that
extent,
if
the
depth
of
the
pool
can
be
no
more
than
four
feet
versus
what
might
be
a
standard
pool
in
the
area
and
I,
don't
know
what
that
might
be.
That
would
allow
the
City
Council
to
definitely
consider
this
to
be
a
therapy
pool,
as
opposed
to
a
recreational
swimming
pool
and,
and
the
upside
of
that
is
that
the
respondent
has
opportunity
to
take
advantage
of
the
therapy
afforded
by
the
pool.
G
The
downside
for
the
respondent
is
that
when
they
go
to
sell
the
pool
the
property
the
bumpy
with
a
therapy
pool
versus
a
standard,
sized
swimming
pool
may
make
the
property
less
marketable.
So
that's
the
downside
of
putting
in,
but
it's
the
upside
for
the
for
the
respondent.
So
if
the
respondent
would
wish
to
I
mean
the
applicant
would
wish
to
continue.
This
public
hearing
give
themselves
the
opportunity
to
obtain
the
appropriate
letter
from
a
medical
provider
with
the
limitation,
as
opposed
to
the
minimum
requirements
of
the
pool
size
therapy
pool
size.
M
G
M
Because
only
ask
one
thing
because
would
see:
what's
with
staff
reviewing
this
one
thing:
when
one
buys
a
lot,
they
don't
do
a
site
plan
the
beginning,
and
we
can't
act
as
if
that's
a
reasonable
assumption.
People
buy
lots
and
then
they
build
houses
afterwards,
people
don't
necessarily
say
no
limitation.
No
there's!
No,
but
generally
people
don't
know
that
you're
not
gonna,
make
an
assumption
that
your
lot
is.
Non-Conforming
live,
that's
not
a
homebuyer!
M
Generally,
it's
not
gonna,
say
you
buy
this
lot,
I
assume
the
city,
it's
a
lot
which
the
city
doesn't
use
conforming.
That's
that's
not
a
reasonable
assumption
for
someone
that,
when
they
buy
a
house,
well
they're
gonna
assume
that
the
lot
is
a
lot
you
can
use
to
do
something
normally
that
one
one
buys
a
house
long
as
they.
Let
me
make
the
assumption.
This
is
not
gonna
form
a
lot
and
then
go
through
a
bunch
of
steps
before
I
buy
it.
That's
not
a
normal
thing.
The
homebuyers
do.
What
I'm
saying
is.
M
G
The
setback
for
swimming
pools
in
our
code
hasn't
always
been
there.
It's
a
relatively
recent
vintage,
and
so,
if
you
take,
if
you
see
an
aerial
of
a
canal
and
like
I
said,
I
use
this
as
part
of
my
presentation,
you
can
see
a
lot
of
swimming
pools
that
were
built
before
our
codes
went
into
effect
that
are
much
closer
today
than
this
beautiful
art
set
back
and
what
happens
is
because
we've
had
people
have
bought
property
in
reliance
upon
their
representative
out
on
the
property.
G
When
the
question
is
asked
can
I
have
a
swimming
pool
and
they
look
up
and
down
the
canal,
and
they
see
that
there
are
swimming
pools
that
are
they're
not
taking
into
consideration
that
there's
a
setback
requirement
and
they
say
sure,
and
so
they
close
on
the
property.
They
build
their
house
and
they
come
in
for
their
swimming
pool
and
we
have
to
tell
them.
Oh,
no,
you
can't
have
a
swimming
pool
because
it
won't
meet
the
setback
and
they
will
say
yeah,
but
I
block
the
property
in
reliance
public.
G
Laurens
efficient,
but
in
this
particular
case,
assuming
that
there
is
a
medical
provider
that
would
have
determined
that
he
qualifies
under
the
American
Disabilities
Act.
That
gives
us
the
tools
that
we
might
need
to
be
able
to
modify
the
codes
for
this
particular
case
and
not
open
Pandora's
box
to
everybody
saying
well.
My
doctor
says
that
I
need
it
for
health
reasons,
which
we
hear
all
the
time
and
that's
not
sufficient.
G
A
G
I'll
give
this
public
service
announcement
anybody,
that's
wishing
the
purchased
property
and
wants
to
make
sure
that
complies
with
the
codes
and
and
and
it's
suitable
for
the
purposes,
even
though
it's
not
required
in
Florida,
unlike
other
states,
to
have
an
attorney
to
review
the
contract.
We
view
the
property.
If
you
don't
want
to
be
stuck
with
a
property,
it's
not
suitable
for
your
purposes.
G
You
need
to
consult
with
an
attorney,
because
even
a
closing
agent,
which
is
very
common
these
days
at
a
at
a
title,
company
they're
not
allowed
to
give
legal
advice,
and
so
they
don't
look
into
the
things
that
might
be
helpful
and
it's
unfortunate
that
people
think
that
they
can
rely
upon
the
pool
contractor.
But
the
pool
contractors
trying
to
sell
a
pool-
and
they
may
not
be
able
to
give
the
legal
advice
either
as
to
whether
or
not
so
I'm
trying
to
be
helpful
in
this
situation,
and
it's
just
the
City
Council.
A
L
Like
to
address
the
fact
that
it's
not
hurting
anybody
for
him
to
do
this,
if
you
live
next
door
and
his
his
seawall
goes
because
something
has,
you
know
become
unstable,
it
does
hurt
because
we
all
have
to
pay
for
that.
So
I
think
that
we
have
to
take
into
consideration
why
we
have
the
setbacks.
The
reason
I
mean
there
must
have
been
a
really
good
reason,
or
they
wouldn't
have
codified
it
and
I.
Just
I
think
we
have
to
be
very
careful
when
we
overrule.
G
And
I
think
that
the
setbacks
on
this
particular
occasion,
we've
got
a
six
foot
setback
that
is
more
intended
to
protect
the
seawall
and
to
provide
maintenance
for
the
seawall,
the
the
20-foot
rear,
yard,
award,
front
yard
setback
I
think
it's
primarily
for
visual
yeah
on
water
front.
So
and
that's
why
I'm
not
so
concerned
about
the
suggestion
that
they
would
pay
extra
money
for
whatever
it
is
potentially
detrimental
to
a
neighbor.
If
you're
gonna,
you
know,
put
a
structure
in
what
was
intended
to
be.
A
E
Think
the
the
question
is
at
hand
for
this
particular
property
in
this
particular
situation
is
what
I
refer
to
as
translation
and
as
our
esteemed
Honorable,
David
Levine
has
pointed
out,
could
comply
with
eight
could
be
dealt
with
under
a
DEA
review
with
appropriate
and
I.
Think
that
was
one
point
I
was
making.
E
I
think
we
just
got
what
we've
got
is
we've
got
a
couple
of
questions
I
understand
from
our
discussion
why
the
the
building
zone
people
would
vote
to
not
approve
it
because
I
see
some
questions,
I
see
the
most
questions
that
could
be
probably
relatively
quickly
ascertained
with
what
the
idea
of
a
therapy
pool
instead
of
a
swimming
pool,
with
the
appropriate
setbacks
again
as
long
as
the
neighborhood,
the
neighbors
aren't
doing
it,
then
that
would
be
something
that
I
think
that
we
would
be
able
to
go
forward.
I.
I
A
A
But
it
may
come
from
their
professional,
because
12-feet
seems
to
me
to
be
beyond
reasonable.
It
doesn't
seem
to
be
it
seems
to
be
large
and
that
there
may
be
because
efforts
to
make
this
a
little
bit
more
of
a
compromise
than
just
asking
for
something.
It
appears
to
me
why
I'm
asking
for
12
feet,
I'm
asking
for
the
moon,
of
course,
so
you
know
we're
not
able
to.
G
G
We
have
a
statement
from
the
owner
saying
12
feet
is
the
minimum,
and
he's
explained
why
he
believes
12
feet
is
the
minimum,
but
of
course
his
statement
is
somewhat
self-serving.
So
if
you
can
bring
in
some
sort
of
independent
opinion
as
to
what
the
minimum
size
of
this
and
what
we
prefer
to
call
it
a
therapy
pool,
and
that
would
be
helpful
in
the
correspondence
you
get
from
it
from
both
the
medical
provider
and
the
third
party,
so
that
this
can
be
considered
as
a
therapy
pool
as
opposed
to
a
recreational
swimming
pool.
G
J
J
G
J
Just
for
clarification
and
putting
it
on
the
record,
one
of
the
criteria,
as
you
just
explained,
is
that
this
is
the
minimum
amount
of
modification
necessary
to
make
this.
This
pool
happen,
so
that
has
to
be
identified,
and
you
have
to
be
able
to
prove
that
burden
before
we
can
approve
it.
That's
one
of
the
eight
criteria.
We
must
say
yes
to,
otherwise
we
can.
We
can
absolutely
deny
this
request,
so
it'll
be
up
to
the
applicant
to
go
and
get
a
doctor's
opinion
that
states
all
the
things
that
have
already
been
stated.
J
But
but
you
know
we're
focusing
on
the
depth
of
the
pool
a
little
bit
more
than
I.
Think
we
need
to
be
the
length
of
the
pool
is
not
the
issue.
You've
already
got
your
seventy-five
feet
of
length
according
to
the
diagram,
correct
the
site
plan,
so
the
real
issue
is
the
width
of
the
pool
from
the
house
to
this
to
the
seawall
that
that's
the
area.