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From YouTube: City of Punta Gorda City Council 12-21-16 Part 2
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B
Implementation
and
second,
would
be
the
implementation
of
the
constitutional
amendment
on
the
property
tax
exemption
for
renewable
source
devices
on
your
home.
Essentially
the
amendment
that
was
overwhelmingly
passed,
which
said
that
if
you
improve
the
value
of
your
home
by
putting
solar
panels
on
it,
for
example,
your
property
taxes
won't
be
increased,
that
that
will
have
implementing
legislation
as
well.
B
So
implementation
of
constitutional
amendments.
The
past
second,
certainly
health
care
and
continuing
to
try
to
find
a
model
that
works
for
Florida
and
also
is
somewhat
synchronized.
So
CMS
in
and
in
acha,
the
state
state
and
federal
agencies
trying
to
manage
the
Affordable
Care,
Act
I,
think
that
is
going
to
be
in
a
bit
of
a
state
of
flux
right
after
january
twentieth
and
so
we'll
see
what
the
implications
of
that
are.
B
It's
the
one
item
under
the
Constitution
that
the
legislature
is
actually
required
to
accomplish
all
the
other
bills
they
don't
have
to
do,
but
they
have
to
adopt
because
they
have
to
adopt
a
budget
budget
projections.
Right
now
are
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
modest
level
of
surplus.
That's
the
good
news.
The
bad
news
is
that
it's
pretty
much
spoken
for
so
so
we'll
see
how
we'll
see
how
that
plays
out.
B
Also
I
think
moving
forward.
This
session
are
going
to
be
a
host
of
bills
related
to
disrupt
disruptive
technologies.
Things
like
uber
and
lyft
things
like
autonomous
vehicles
and
what's
government's
role
in
those
disruptive
technologies,
so
we'll
certainly
be
monitoring
and
tracking
those
I
have
these
six
items
that
you've
identified
as
priorities
in
I'm
sure,
Howard
and
I
will
be
talking
about
those
along
with
the
ones
that
are
embedded
in
the
Florida
leagues
agenda.
I'd
be
glad
to
take
any
questions.
B
C
Medical
marijuana,
constitutional
amendment
requires
administrative
rule,
making,
if
I
recall
correctly
and
there's
a
deadline,
I
think,
six
months
to
up
to
six
months,
to
do
that.
The
statutory
bills
that
are
mentioned.
How
is
that
going
to
impact
that
rulemaking
and
is
it
going
to
delay
the
rulemaking
if
they
have
to
implement
whatever
changes?
The
legislature
is
going
to
require
my
statute
you're.
B
C
The
reason
why
the
reason
I
ask
is
that
the
city,
as
well
as
many
other
municipalities
and
counties,
have
considered
or
adopted
moratorium
on
any
new
dispensaries
within
the
city
limits
and
the
more
toria's
is
based
to
a
large
extent
upon.
Let's
wait
to
see
what
the
regulations
are
and
then
we
can
incorporate
or
react
on.
However,
if
there's
going
to
be
a
delay
in
those
regulations
based
on
some
additional
legislative.
B
I
can't
say
for
sure,
what's
going
to
happen,
but
based
upon
my
experience,
I
suspect
that
the
legislative
branch
is
going
to
assert
his
authority.
It's
going
to
say
that
it
is
for
us
to
determine
the
how
and
the
executive
branch
is
going
to
have
to
wait
on
enforcing
that.
They
will
see
that
as
their
prerogative.
We
make
the
law,
the
executive
branch
agencies
enforce
the
law,
and
so.
B
Say
that
for
sure,
but
that's
plausible
in
or
maybe
they
do
it
in
phases-
I'm
just
not
sure
I
know
that
that
is
that's
a
question
that
has
been
raised
in
its
front
and
center
with
this
legislation
as
they
as
they're.
Considering
and
I've
heard
that
that
topic,
that
a
lot
of
municipalities
and
counties
have
adopted
these
moratoria.
How
are
we
going
to
deal
with
that?
B
C
B
A
Okay,
now
we
are
going
to
back
to
the
regular
agenda,
so
now
will
be
the
time
for
citizens
comments
on
regular
agenda
items.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
speak
on
the
capital
improvement
project,
progress
update
the
roadway
level
of
service
discussion,
the
discussion
of
building
height
in
the
city
center
zoning
district-
if
you
would
like
to
speak
on
any
of
those
items,
now
would
be
the
time
state
your
name,
you
have
three
minutes
good.
D
Morning,
Steve
Fabian,
a
few
years
ago,
the
city
put
in
a
birt
between
airport,
road
and
aqui,
esta
half
mile
with
33
light
poles,
and
at
that
time
they
recognized
that
there
were
no
traffic
hihi
light
lights
along
that
section
of
the
road
and
requested
FDOT
for
funds
to
put
lights
there
after
yo
t
put
it
in
their
five-year
project
funding.
For
that
now
all
of
a
sudden
city
has
come
and
said.
Well,
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
D
We
want
to
put
our
mark
in
there
replicate
the
one
that's
on
the
esky
side
and
put
it
on
the
west
side.
Also,
the
only
problem
is
there
is.
Unlike
the
east
side,
there
are
11
driveway
openings
on
the
west
side
of
those
11
driveways.
There
were
only
three
right
turn
lanes
into
those
driveways.
All
the
others
are
not
when
this
was
a
present
of
the
City
Council.
Some
time
ago,
mr.
Austin
said
that,
on
that
mert,
a
bicycle
or
pedestrian
would
have
the
right
away.
D
D
E
A
staff
we
are
going
to
have
all
the
departments
who
have
capital
projects
representatives
get
up
here
and
briefly,
go
over
there
a
status
report
of
not
only
projects
but
fleet
and
equipment.
It's
part
of
our
budget
process
budget
transparency
process,
where
we
highlight
all
the
activities
were
undertaking
this
fiscal
year.
We
like
to
do
it
now
as
an
update
and
then
we'll
do
it
again
in
May
and
June
when
we
put
together
our
next
five-year
program
as
well.
E
So
with
that
I'll
start
on
this
one,
the
CRA
approved
additional
parking
at
lashley
park
right
now,
it's
being
engineered
and
designed
all
the
way
up
to
construction
documents
by
marina
park
LLC,
they
will
provide
us
biddable
documents.
We
will
bid
it
out.
The
number
of
parking
spaces
is
still
up
in
the
air
and
it
could
be
42
43
45
but
they're
in
the
process
of
the
design
right
now,
and
we
have
the
projected
amount
of
funds
that
it
will
take.
So
that
process
is
moving
forward.
F
F
F
The
harborwalk,
West
and
playground
area
staff
didn't
meet
with
play
more
to
discuss
the
the
projects
and
options
for
the
the
surface
safe
surface
for
playgrounds.
Construction
is
projected
to
begin
and
2017
the
ad
a
transportation
plan
improvements.
We
are
still
working
with
candela
Oliver,
getting
all
of
the
reports
of
city
meets
the
ad
a
requirements
improvements
being
made
at
intersections
in
other
areas
of
the
city
as
needed.
So.
F
F
Ponce
de
Leon
park,
redesign
staff
did
have
the
first
meeting
with
Hurst
and
engineering
to
discuss
the
options
we
currently
have.
Bi-Weekly
meetings
set
up
with
Hurston
engineering
as
the
progress
begins
to
move
forward,
and
then
those
will
probably
spread
out
a
little
bit
as
as
we
get
the
general
design
and
we
will
provide
updates
as
they
are
available,
the
US
41
Myrddin
lighting.
This
is
a
project
that
has
been
discussed.
It
is
still
it
in
the
budget
projected
for
design
fiscal
year,
17
and
construction
17-18.
F
E
G
F
F
Nature
Park
phase
2a
hardscape
insomma
da
improvements.
This
is
projected
under
park
impact
fees.
The
concept
is
complete
again:
construction
and
fiscal
year,
17
the
shreve
Street
trailhead,
the
fur
dep
grant,
has
been
submitted.
Some
minor
revisions
of
the
request
of
the
third
appt
directors
were
resubmitted,
and
hopefully
everything
will
go
through.
F
You
sidewalk
improvements,
construction
of
missing
sidewalks.
We
also
have
the
fee
and
the
in
lua
fee
that
we
do
collect
from
development
projects
when
it's
it's
not
some.
The
contractor
does
not
need
to
or
want
to
actually
construct
the
sidewalk,
so
they
paid
for
the
fee
in
lieu
of
that
sidewalk
at
the
city
holds
in
funds
in
order
to
construct
sidewalks
in
the
area
when
the
time
is
appropriate.
H
Morning,
mark
garing,
Public
Works.
We
received
the
easement
documents,
I
think
what
they
were
signed
off
on
last
council
meeting
and
we're
completing
our
design
of
the
Madrid
sidewalk,
which
will
connect
the
Excite
walk
on
Madrid,
which
stops
just
there
at
the
shopping
center.
It'll
come
up
around
the
corner
across
the
bank
property
which
son
bank
owns
and
gave
us
the
easement
and
continue
over
to
the
corner
at
burn,
store.
Road
and
residents
will
be
able
to
cross
burning
star
road
there
and
get
on
to
the
murder.
G
H
F
H
You
Terry
mark
garing,
again
Public
Works.
This
is
a
project
that
you
discussed
this
morning.
This
is
the
Boca
Grande
korda
Andhra
drainage
work.
Our
consultant
is
working
on
those
six
points.
I
think
it
is
that
mr.
paul
presented
for
the
grants
options.
Two
and
three
that
will
be
presented
to
you
in
February
will
have
all
the
points
that
we
can
address
toward
grant
points
we'll
have
that
in
the
project
they
drive
the
cost
of
the
project
up.
H
But
if
the
grant
money
comes
back
to
put
us
back
to
to
within
our
budget
that
that
would
be
great
swale
drainage
improvements.
That's
the
citywide
swale
reconstruction
regrading
that
has
just
recently
concluded
its
bidding.
We
had
a
terrible
time
getting
folks
interested
in
bidding
on
that
project.
Don't
know
if
it's
the
level
of
service
that
we're
requiring
in
the
project
the
fact
that
contractors
are
very
busy,
but
after
extending
the
bids
a
couple
of
times,
we
still
only
got
two
bidders.
H
We
are
now
in
the
process
of
awarding
that
project
and
will
probably
come
back
to
this
council
for
for
the
award
very
soon
storm
sewer
reconstruction.
This
is
a
Capital
Improvement
Fund,
that
kind
of
rolls
through
each
year
for
unexpected
storm
water
repairs
of
culverts.
Her
most
recent
repair
was
on
Olympia
Avenue
there,
where
it
crosses
the
title,
ditch
the
pipes
starting
to
fail,
and
we
had
a
firm
come
in
and
inject
foam
into
the
ground,
which
is
a
new
process
rather
than
dig
up
the
pipes
and
expose
them.
H
G
H
I
H
J
Since
they
are
old
and
dilapidated
pipes,
this
phone-
I
assume,
is
not
a
permanent
solution,
but
a
very
good
temporary
solution
that
so
I'm
asking
is,
is:
is
there
an
idea
of
how
long
the
life
of
these
drainage
pipes
will
be
projected
by
being
able
to
use
this
technology?
Well,
the
patch
as
we
go
along
the.
H
H
J
H
H
H
A
A
H
H
H
H
The
npdes
this
is
the
National
Clean
Water
Act,
where
the
city
is
required
through
our
npdes
permit,
to
track
and
educate
and
do
all
kinds
of
things
federal
mandate
to
to
show
that
our
stormwater
work,
although
we
do
a
great
job
at
Dom
doing
this
work,
the
federal
requirements
are
to
document
everything
we
do
so
we
we
have
a
consultant
that
guides
us
through.
That
sets
up
training
courses
for
us
and
just
recently
they
set
some
new
tracking
requirements
and
they
give
us
the
forms
and
stuff
like
that
to
keep
us
on
track
with
that.
H
The
TMDL
s.
Hopefully,
this
is
the
last
year
that
I'm
up
here
preaching
for
money
for
TM
dls.
This
is
a
ten-thousand-dollar
every
other
year
fund
that
we
were
putting
away
about
five
years
ago
to
punta
gorda
isles,
canals
were
listed
as
impaired.
Those
canals
have
now
been
delisted
and
it's
going
through
all
of
its
bureaucracy
of
its
been
recommended
for
delisting
and
now
we're
tidying
that
up,
but
once
we're
delisted
there
will
probably
not
no
longer
have
to
put
money
away.
H
This
is
basically
just
a
bank
account
for
whatever
came
at
us
for
the
TMDL
issue:
soil
stabilization
at
marina,
pointe,
the
area
around
that
little
gazebo
there
out
the
point.
It
has
big
reprap
around
the
perimeter
of
it
with
an
asphalt
path
in
the
middle
and
had
small
riprap
around
that
short
of
putting
the
big
rip
rap
right
up
against
the
sidewalk,
where
we
felt
that
wasn't
the
best
solution
every
five
years
or
so.
H
It's
always
been
three,
but
until
recently,
when
we
got
the
aqui
esta
bridge,
which
is
now
under
city
control,
the
fdot
does
an
inspection
every
two
years
and
they
bring
that
inspection
back
to
us
and
the
engineer
to
town
and
we
go
out
and
we
look
at
the
bridges
to
see
what
the
deficiencies
are.
To
date.
We
haven't
had
any
and
the
ten
years
that
I've
been
here,
anything
that
was
alarming
the
fun
that
we
have
usually
covers
costs.
H
We
may
have
a
little
wash
out
or
replace
the
seals
in
a
bridge,
something
like
that
that
the
the
fund
is
in
good
shape
for
what
we
anticipate
our
cost
to
be
the
SI
perimeter
canal,
dredging,
that's
a
project
that
was
a
permitted
in
house.
We
did
all
the
permitting
with
FDEP
and
we
think
we're
very
close
unless
somebody
pulls
something
out
of
an
air
were
very
close
to
being
issued
to
permit
on
that
project.
H
H
E
H
Typically,
our
problems
are
the
pot
the
piles
are
rotting.
We
typically
do
not
have
piles
that
are
long
enough,
so
our
signs
were
too
close
to
the
water
to
meet
the
new
requirements
and
we're
taking
care
of
all
of
that.
Cathy
Miller's
group
is
working
on
the
final
details
of
that
with
one
of
the
state
agencies
I
apologized,
for
you,
which
agency
it
is,
but
just
the
the
wording,
that's
on
the
sign.
H
Some
of
our
signs
had
more
wording
than
what
the
state
asks
for,
and
the
state
also
told
us
that
no
look,
no
logos
were
allowed
and
no
deviations
from
theirs,
and
we
just
recently
had
some
correspondence
with
them
that,
within
our
city,
canals
not
the
ones
that
are
out
in
the
harbor
that
we
take
care
of
also,
but
within
the
city
canals
we
are
given
a
lot
more
Liberty
to
put
on
our
fishing
ordinances
and
anything
else
that
we
have.
They
conceded
that
we
have
that
right
at
first,
they
were
telling
us
we
couldn't
put.
H
H
Ponce
inlet,
as
you
get
up
near
mr.
dossers
house,
the
fishing
signs
that
we
have
that
sort
of
thing.
They
were
trying
to
exclude
those
signs
and
we
asserted
that
those
were
City
canals
and
we
could
put
our
city
ordinances,
a
city
logo,
whatever
we
want
it
on
their
neighborhood
watch
signs
were
a
problem
for
them
at
first,
but
they
again
they've
conceded
all
those
issues
within
our
city
canals
that
we
can
put
our
city
related
signs
up
good.
I
H
Soil
stabilization
at
the
library
site
we're
prepared
to
kick
this
off
right.
After
the
first
of
the
year,
we've
made
all
the
purchase
orders
with
the
different
equipment
companies
that
are
going
to
supply
us,
and
yesterday
we
made
a
field
trip
out
to
Burma
Road
excavation,
where
they
have
a
shaker
device
that
will
be
renting
just
we
were
familiar
with
the
size
of
it
and
how
it
operated,
and
that
sort
of
thing
to
make
sure
that
we
were
on
track
with
with
that
rental
and
we're
ready
to
go
right
at
first
of
the
year.
K
K
Next,
we
have
the
citywide
radio
project.
This
is
a
project
that
is
running
parallel
with
the
county
to
bring
us
from
the
800
megahertz
system
up
into
the
p25
digital
age.
Currently,
right
now,
all
of
the
equipment
has
been
purchased
and
essentially
we're
sitting
and
waiting
for
the
county
to
kind
of
play
catch-up
so
that
we
can
actually
implement
that.
I
I
The
other
thing
we
have.
We
have
three
little
funds
that
is
used
for
a
paratus
or
I'm
sorry,
equipment
replacement
first,
is
suppression
which
is
just
hose
and
fire
equipment
second,
would
be
bunker
gear
and
dive
equipment.
There
would
be
an
ALS
medical
equipment,
some
large
large
purchases
there.
So
we
have.
L
I'm
Brad
shooty
IT
manager,
the
projects
that
we
have
the
first
is
our
replacement
of
our
old
nor
telephone
system
with
our
new
voice
over
IP
system.
That
project
is
currently
underway
and
our
plans
are
that
will
make
the
cut
over
to
the
new
system
towards
the
end
of
January.
The
project
came
in
well
under
budget,
so
we're
proud
of
that
fact
and
we're
looking
forward
to
that
system
being
in
place.
L
The
next
is
our
the
upgrade
to
our
new
click
to
gov
and
our
new
online
payment
processing
system.
That
system
was
put
in
place
at
the
beginning
of
december.
It
is
in
as
currently
in
working
out
there
doing
its
work,
we're
hoping
that
it's
been
well
accepted.
We've
had
some
comments
and
we've
been
working
through
those,
but
overall
it's
been
doing
a
very
good
job
and
finally,
improvements
to
the
council
chambers.
We've
done
one
half
of
the
upgrade
that
we
wanted
to
do
to
the
Chamber's
to
kind
of
bring
it
up
to
date.
M
Good
morning
again,
Tom
Jackson
for
the
record
as
you're
aware,
this
is
the
largest
project
that
we
are
currently
doing.
The
groundwater
ro
we're
at
a
hundred
percent
of
all
the
items
as
they're
listed
until
we
get
to
the
well
filled
construction
that
is
going
on.
We
anticipate
the
source
water
part
of
the
well
field
to
be
done
in
may,
as
well
as
the
injection
deep
injection
well
to
be
completed
in
May
is
also,
and
the
construction
of
the
RO
plant
will
hopefully
begin
in
april
2018
and
finished
by
december.
2020.
M
Hydro,
biological
monitoring
report:
this
is
a
requirement
for
our
water
use.
Permit
we've
done
this
since
the
beginning
of
when,
when
the
district
established
the
requirement
for
background
in
hydro
biological
monitoring,
we
have
the
same
PhD
scientists
doing
it
for
us
forever.
He
became
ill
last
year
when
our
ten-year
report
was
done
and
retired.
We
have
scrambled
around
and
it's
been
a
real
challenge
to
find
a
firm
that
will
even
take
this
on
to
put
the
data
together,
we
collect
the
data
we
pay
for
a
lab
to
do
that.
M
We
provide
the
data
and
then
they
have
to
put
it
together
in
a
10-year
summary
to
the
district
that
project.
Finally,
we
were
able
to
succeed
in
getting
a
firm
that
would
do
that.
Prepare
lee
the
final
report
by
the
end
of
this
month,
I
got
an
email
yesterday.
Of
course,
this
slide
is
going
to
change
that
they're
a
little
behind
on
that.
So
we're
not
going
to
have
that
completed
in
December,
it's
it's
probably
going
to
be
out
a
month
or
so.
The
district
is
well
aware
of
the
issues.
M
M
M
Infrastructure,
renewal
and
replacement
as
you'll
recall,
the
the
council
moved
one
point:
12
million
dollars
above
the
line
every
year
for
us
to
do
infrastructure,
improvement
and
replacement
of
water
mains
gravity
sewer
lines.
Force
means,
as
the
issues
arose.
We've
also
been
actively
replacing
sewer
force
mains,
where
we
know
that
there
could
be
problems
due
to
their
age
or
the
soil
type
that
they're
in.
So
this
is
ongoing
every
year.
We
do
this
type
of
work.
If
we
do
not
spend
those
entire
funds,
we
roll
the
balance
of
that
forward.
M
For
the
next
year
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
roof
replacements
after
Hurricane
Charley.
Both
plants
got
new
roots
and
the
contractor
that
did
the
wastewater
treatment
plan.
Roof
was
not
nearly
as
successful
as
the
contractor
that
did
the
water
plant
roof
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
slides,
and
they
don't
really
tell
the
full
picture,
the
roof
was
in
horrible
shape,
so
we
contracted
out
with
a
roofing
contractor
to
to
replace
it.
That
is
complete
and
I.
M
Think
the
final
we
were
four
hundred
dollars
under
budget
on
the
final,
so
that
is,
the
dollar
amount,
Jones
Luke
forced
main.
We
met
yesterday
we
last
week
bout
thursday.
I
believe
it
was.
We
picked
the
consultant
to
design
the
14-inch
force
main
to
provide
additional
capacity
of
wastewater
down
in
the
jones
loop
area.
M
N
D
O
So
for
the
record,
Mitchell
Austin
urban
design
I'm
going
to
bore
you
with
transportation
level
service
for
a
few
minutes
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
implications
for
our
city.
What
is
level
of
service
for
roadways?
The
level
of
service
standards
are
based
on
this.
The
letter
grade
system.
The
system
was
invented
in
the
1950s
and
60s
by
transportation
engineers
to
describe
the
flow
of
traffic
through
roadways
that
they
were
designing
in
the
ideal
condition
for
the
engineers
is
really
in
terms
of
you.
Lysing.
The
maximum
capacity
of
a
roadway
is
really
level
service
d.
O
O
O
There's
a
ride
on
it.
There
have
been
several
there
have
been
several
toll
roads
built
in
the
in
the
late
90s
and
early
2000s,
that
that
do
exhibit
that
much
to
the
chagrin
of
the
people
who
wrote
the
bonds
to
fund
those
roadways
and
then
in
urbanized
areas
you
see
level
of
service,
II
and
level
of
service
F.
If
we
you've
spent
any
of
your
life
in
a
major
metropolitan
area,
you
know
that
as
rush
hour,
traffic.
B
O
Am
and
PM
commute
times
level
service
EMF
in
our
comprehensive
plan,
our
current
transportation
element.
We
classify
the
minimum
acceptable
level
service
in
our
city
as
level
service
d.
Now
the
engineers
put
those
neat
little
letter
grades
so
that
we
had
some
relationship
to
something
we
understood
like
letter
grades
we
get
to
school,
but
d,
isn't
failing
d
is
good.
O
Just
like
c
is
good
and
a
is.
Maybe
you
didn't
need
to
build
that
road
and
any
and
fr?
Maybe
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
build
another
road,
so
those
those
are
there's
two
ends
of
the
spectrum.
Both
ends
are
actually
bad.
The
sweet
spot
is
in
that
C
and
D
range,
where
you
get
the
maximum
efficiency,
so
people
can
get
to
where
they're
going,
but
we're
minimizing
the
use
of
tax
dollars
to
get
them
there.
O
Our
love
will
service
standards
are
in
line
with
those
around
the
region.
The
sort
of
outlier
that
you
see
here
is
Sarasota
County.
They
say
their
level
of
services
see
for
all
over
there
roadway
system.
Then
they
have
a
list
of
excluded
roadways
that
they
call
constrained
facilities.
These
are
roads
that
you
may
have
heard
of
like
I
75
us
41,
301,
fruitvale
University.
I
could
go
on
move
in
the
next
15
minutes.
O
So
it's
not
really
their
standard.
Their
standard
is
your
f
for
most
of
the
roadway
network
that
gets
the
majority
of
people
to
and
from
where
they
need
to
go
in.
Charlotte
County
were
in
line
with
them
level,
service
d,
the
more
urbanized
counties
to
our
south
lee
and
collier
their
minimum
level
services,
as
they've
seen
significant
amounts
of
growth
that
are
constrained
by
the
fact
that
they
have
lots
of
gated
golf
course
communities,
and
that
means
big
six
lane
arterioles
that
they
can't
expand
anymore
and
have
no
place
to
put
another
parallel
facility.
O
There
was
some
discussion
about
the
hurricane
evacuation
routes.
Who
can
we
designate
the
hurricane
evacuation
routes
level
service,
see
currently
in
our
comprehensive
plan?
Our
designated
her
official
hurricane
evacuation
routes
are
in
line
with
those
that
are
denoted
as
hurricane
evacuation
routes
by
charlotte
county
in
the
state
of
florida.
So
those
roadway
facilities
are,
as
you
see
on
this
myth.
It's
us
41.
O
It's
olympia,
avenue,
east
of
us,
41,
northbound
and
taylor,
road,
Jones,
lube,
road
and
Burke
store
wrote
so
those
those
are
the
hurricane
evacuation
routes
that
we
denote
in
our
conference
of
plans,
so
that
that's
what
that
is
the
signage
that
you
see
on
our
streets.
Thats,
a
hurricane
evacuation
routes,
that's
wayfinding,
signage,
to
help
our
citizens
understand
where
they
need
to
go
to
get
out.
Just
like
the
county's
program,
with
the
collars
around
the
stop
signs.
It's
just
general
education
for
the
public
in
terms
of
the
street
network.
O
I
could
show
you
the
level
of
service
map
for
today,
but
it
looked
pretty
boring
most
of
the
lines
on
the
map
of
green,
because
most
of
the
city
today
operates
a
level
of
service
see
every
five
years
the
Metropolitan
Planning
Organization
does
has
to
update
its
long-range
transportation
plan
and,
as
part
of
that
process,
they
do
transportation
study
for
the
entire
county.
They
do
projections.
O
The
last
plan
was
updated
last
year
and
looked
forward
to
2040.
The
projections
for
traffic
are
based
on
population
and
employment
growth,
those
population,
employment,
growth
projections
are
based
on
past
experience,
so
in
the
last
tenure
aizen
looking
backwards,
we
have
a
boom
and
a
bust,
so
it
sort
of
flattens
out
to
maybe
we
can
use
that
number
to
project
into
the
future.
O
So
it's
part
of
that
analysis.
We
end
up
with
this
map,
which
shows
that
most
of
the
roadways
in
the
city
continued
to
maintain
level
service,
see
some
roadways
do
under
those
projections
follow
the
level
service
d.
Those
include
a
kiss
star,
drive,
Bal,
Harbour,
Taylor,
shreve
and
tamiami
trail.
The
US
41
bridges
over
the
harbor
do
fall
to
level
service
e
in
those
projections,
at
the
very
end
of
the
horizon,
so
is
anticipated
that
other
improvements
will
need
to
be
made
in
the
region
to
relieve
those
facilities.
O
And
again,
these
projections
are
based
on
the
existing
system
and
and
projects
that
are
committed,
so
this
doesn't
take
into
account
any
of
the
proposed
transportation
improvements
that
are
in
our
long-range
plan.
That
aren't
did
so.
This
map
is
actually
moving
target,
which
is
why
we
look
at
it
every
five
years
and
reevaluate.
O
O
So
implications
for
our
roadway
right
now
today.
This
is
an
example,
roadway,
obviously
a
Q
star
drive.
This
is
a
60
foot
wide
right
of
way.
We
have
to
Vic
Uhler
travel
lanes,
stormwater
management,
drainage,
swales
and
a
5
foot
wide
sidewalk.
The
development
pattern
is
to
pull
suburban.
We
have
25
foot
setbacks,
minimum
required
for
the
single-family
residences
along
that
corridor
and
setbacks.
That
would
vary
from
multi-family
properties
and
we
do
have
some
vacant
vacant
lots
and
so
in
20
40
when
level
of
service
D
is
projected
to
come
around.
O
This
is
what
we
anticipate.
The
roadway
will
look
like.
There
would
be
no
necessary
transportation
improvements
based
on
local
service
roadway
capacity,
so
the
roadway
would
look
more
or
less
as
it
does
today.
We
would
hopefully
anticipate
seeing
more
growth
and
development.
We've
added
some
multi-family
to
one
side
of
the
roadway,
but
the
you'll
see
more
cars,
you'll
see
more
cars
in
season,
but
the
roadway
will
continue
to
move
traffic
in
a
relatively
efficient
manner
for
to
change
the
level
service
standard.
We
would
anticipate
having
to
make
substantive
transportation
improvements.
O
This
image
shows
us
a
way
to
gain
additional
roadway
capacity
by
converting
the
facility
from
its
existing
two-lane,
undivided
to
what
Engineers
call
a
two-lane
divided
facility,
the
division
would
be
a
son
or
town
lane.
This
limits
traveled
the
way
by
getting
left
hand
Turner's
out
of
the
vehicle
vehicular
three-way.
O
It
all
looks
good.
It
all
looks
like
it
fits
within
the
60-foot
right-of-way,
and
fortunately
we
know
that
storm
water
management
is
an
issue
now
and
would
be
an
issue
moving
into
the
future
with
this
improvement,
so
it
is
likely
that
we
would
have
to
buy
purchase
additional
right
of
way
to
see
even
this
level
of
modification.
O
Moving
further
into
the
future
for
to
maintain
a
level
service
see,
we
would
anticipate
that
this
type
of
facility
would
need
to
be
undertaken.
We
need
to
add
additional
regular
through
lanes,
in
addition
to
the
turn
lane
again,
necessitating
additional
right-of-way
acquisition
costs
and
to
accommodate
the
stormwater
management
requirements.
J
J
Now,
if
when
we
were
talking
previously
about
the
the
project
proposed
off
aqui,
esta
one
of
the
arguments
that
many
of
the
citizens
brought
to
us
is
that
theta
they
would
prefer
not
to
see
a
level
d,
we're
not
by
Florida
standards
close
to
the
level
d
from
a
road
perspective
and
a
mindset
perspective
in
our
community.
The
idea
of
service
see
to
me
seems
to
be
almost
the
holy
grail
like
twice
a
week,
sanitation
service.
This
is
something
that
we
enjoy
and
we
like
to
make
maintained
in
the
three-lane
proposal.
J
J
Assuming
that
everything
was
built
out
by
2040
correct,
correct,
no
reason
I
wanted
to
bring
up
these
questions
in
this
discussion,
and
then
you
gave
me
you
gave
us
some
numbers
about
how
many
trips
per
day
and
so
forth,
and
that's
where
this
number
that
you
gave
me
a
projection
goes
and
so
forth.
And
then
we
would
need
about
seven
and
a
half
eight
acres
of
storm
water
retention,
ponding,
which
would
equate
to
about
35
to
40
units
of
living
roof
tops
or
what
our
reliance
then.
J
Well,
this
is
2040.
This
is
projected
to
2040.
Like
you
say,
we
have
these
booms
and
busts
in
my
mind,
if
the,
if
it
still
is
an
F
but
we'll
know
fairly
shortly,
if
the
bird
cut
project
does
go
through,
these
Lots
become
much
more
desirable
to
be
developed
sooner
rather
than
later
from
a-put
to
board
standpoint.
J
So
the
purpose
of
my
wanting
to
have
this
discussion
with
you
and
among
ourselves
is:
if
we
do
want
to
maintain
a
level
see.
We
really
need
to
open
the
discussion
now
to
find
out
what
those
costs
are
versus.
What
those
values
are.
The
values.
Aren't
all
monetary
they're,
also
psychological,
it's
what
we
want
to
maintain
for
our
community
as
a
whole.
It's
not
really
based
on
a
project,
one
large
brunt,
it's
really
based
on
where
this
is
going
to
go
in
entirety.
J
But
if
we
have
the
discussion
now
and
we
pre
plan
it
and
that's
what
we
want
to
maintain,
it
looks
to
me
as
if,
once
we
get
there,
we
r
there
for
perpetual
atiba
cuz.
We
will
be
built
out
in
this
particular
geography,
so
it's
got
a
really
long
term.
Much
beyond
2040
type
of
value
to
the
community,
beyond
what
my
life
expectancy
is
going
to
be,
but
still
we
have
a
concerned
about
that.
So
how
do
we
go
about
pre
planning
to
see
what
roads
we
might
want
to
go
as
a
that?
J
O
Just
based
on
our
conversations
that
did
some
some
back
of
the
napkin
calculations
about
what
this
type
of
roadway
facility
improvement
would
would
mean
in
terms
of
cost
to
our
community,
and
we
have
a
fairly
analogous
cost
comparison
in
burnt
store,
Road.
The
phase
one
improvement
of
that
is
approximately
2.2
miles
the
corridor
that
we're
just
at
example,
corridor
that
we're
speaking
of
here
at
key
estas
1.7
miles.
Do
some
basic
math
and
figure
out
what
we
need
again.
We
end
up
with
that
about
seven
and
a
half
acres
of
stormwater
management
area.
O
Again,
a
two-lane
rural
section
to
a
four-lane,
probably
more
urban
section
cross
section.
So
the
project's
line
up
and
about
a
decade
or
more
would
separate
them.
If
you
were
to
do
this
type
of
improvement
today
to
a
kiss
I
you'd
be
looking
at
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
24
to
30
million
dollars
conservatively
to
to
construct
that
facility.
J
We've
got
these
swales
that
are,
from
my
perspective,
a
little
bit
unsightly
and
also
I
think
potentially
dangerous.
If
somebody
is
in
a
situation
where
they
have
to
run
off
a
road
I
think
those
are
also
issues
of
value
that
we
need
to
address
so
I'm.
Just
asking
that
we
open
up
the
week
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
to
me:
that's
probably
the
worst
case
scenario,
but
it's
still.
There
would
be
properties
that
we
would
want
to
look
into
that.
We
would
have
to
buy
for
right
away.
J
P
I
asked
to
have
this
put
back
on
the
agenda,
because
I've
done
quite
a
lot
of
polling
of
my
constituents
in
in
my
district,
specifically
the
bird
section
in
particular,
and
the
southwestern
section
of
PG
I
have
to
use
this
road
every
single
day,
sometimes
multiple
times
there
every
day,
I
have
a
huge
concern
about
safety,
and
when
you
compare
a
level
d
roads
which,
in
the
list
that
I
provided
to
the
council
members,
they
classify
Cochran,
Boulevard
and
41
as
a
level
d.
Road
I.
P
If
there
ever
were
a
situation
where
we
had
to
evacuate-
and
it's
been
known
to
happen
in
season
that
we
have
a
named
storm,
it
could
happen
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
start
being
proactive
as
Gary
saying
I
think
we
need
to
start
the
conversation
and
the
ball
rolling
and
and
look
at
what
we
can
do
going
forward
to
try
to
make
this
happen
to
keep
it
at
least
at
level
c.
I
feel
very
strongly
about
this
and
I
have
asked
a
number
of
people,
and
everyone
consistently
has
said
the
same
thing.
P
A
N
Because
40
ones
involved,
one
danger
I
see
if
we
make
the
determination
to
change
it
to
a
see
the
bag
stays
on
are
some
meaning.
We
have
to
pay
the
bill.
I
think
that
we
can
argue
to
the
state
at
some
point
that
they
pay
for
changes
to
maintain
our
level
and
I.
Think
that
if
we
on
our
own
changes
with
see
we've,
all
we
do
is
incurred
costs
that
we
don't
have
to
incur
necessarily
ourselves
yeah.
A
E
Well,
prior
to
two
thousand
and
prior
to
the
hurricane
designs
were
undertaken
by
actually
the
MPO
in
the
county
to
do
a
look
at
a
kia
stock
and
at
that
point
in
time
the
study
was
contemplating
a
four
lane
roadway
whole
four
lanes,
sia
sidewalks,
bicycle
lanes
and
the
cost
came
in
for
that.
There
were
also
options
for
a
three
lane
where
you
would
have
the
men.