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B
A
B
That
section
down
sizes
at
minimum,
the
current
plan
shows
12
feet
that
has
to
deal
with
some
extensive
discussions
we
had
with
the
boat
club
people
and
the
parking
arrangement.
So
there
is
a
portion
down
there
that,
on
the
current
plan,
is
12
feet,
but
the
bulk
of
it
at
that
point
is
15
feet.
Okay,.
B
A
B
Alice
parks
down
there,
you
know
we've
talked
about
that
in
concept
and
and
we're
going
to
have
to
basically
redo
that
as
a
result
of
putting
parking,
but
we
will
need.
We
will
need
a
sidewalk
in
front
of
the
parking
because
we
need
to
bring
the
people
somewhere
so
you'll
have
diagonal
parking.
You'll
have
a
sidewalk
that
will
be
there
at
that
point.
B
It
doesn't
seem
logical,
or
this
space
would
restrict
us
from
having
two
separate
sidewalks
like
you
have
now,
so
more
than
likely
what
you'll
wind
up
there
is
the
parking
followed
by
a
15
or
so
foot
harborwalk.
We
would
try
to
do
some
separation
with
landscaping,
but,
like
I
said,
we
need
to
get
people
from
from
the
parking
on
to
the
harborwalk.
Without
you
know,
I'm
going
to
walk
through
a
big
grass
area,
Rachel.
E
My
concern
is
with
now
the
25.
What
did
we
lose
in
on
the
park?
Side
and
I
would
totally
disagree
with
30,
because
what's
left
of
the
park,
I
mean,
if
you
put
a
30
foot
path
through
there,
you're
gonna
lose
most
of
the
open
green
space,
so
I
mean
the
25
I'm.
Okay
live
because
I
feel
like
with
Carolyn.
If
we
go
get
back
to
15
and
make
it
20,
which
was
the,
but
it
was
all
going
to
be
concrete.
At
that
point
it
was.
E
Into
that
turn
around,
so
all
of
that
was
going
to
be
concrete,
so
I,
like
the
grass
idea
and
I,
do
think
that
people
will
use
it,
because,
if
there's
a
bunch
of
bikers
or
whatever
at
least
the
pedestrians,
can
kind
of
go
off
into
the
grass
or
something
like
that,
I
think
it
is
still
usable
space.
That's
why
I
like
option
one
option:
two
is
creative,
but
not
my
favorite
and
I
15
I
just
feel
like.
If
we
go
down
to
15,
we
can't
ever
really.
E
B
Let
me
let
me
just
if
you
don't
mind
the
the
previous
option
had
a
five
foot
wide
sea
wall
cap
and
a
20-foot
harborwalk
to
make
25
feet
option.
One
has
a
two
foot:
wide
sea
wall
cap
five
feet
of
grass
and
20
feet
of
harborwalk
to
make
27
feet
so
option
number
one
in
opposed
to
the
previous
design
that
you've
seen
the
most
recent
one
that
you've
all
seen
encroaches
into
the
park
by
a
total
of
two
feet.
So
you
know
in.
B
E
B
Is
Zeebo
with
with
this
option
there
will
be
no
conflict
with
the
steps.
There's
steps
are
far
enough
away.
In
fact
they
married
up
right
on
when
we
had
the
five
foot
wide
cap
and
the
harborwalk
was
five
feet
away
so
now,
with
seven
feet
and
they'll
actually
be
a
little
bit
of
space
in
between
so
there'll
be
no
problem
at
the
at
the
pond
statue
again
on
the
current
plan.
We
actually
we
hit
it
almost
perfect
with
the
there's,
a
path
that
goes
up
and
it
has
some
hand
railing
on
the
back
side.
B
We
hit
it
almost
perfect
there,
so
we'll
have
to
either
make
an
adjustment
to
either
the
the
path
leading
up
to
the
fountain
or
do
something
with
the
harborwalk
so
that
we
don't
have
to
make
that
adjustment.
But
there's
you
know,
none
of
these
options
would
result
in
a
you
know,
a
problem
with
the
fountain
itself.
It's
just
that
access
on
the
north
side
that
we
have
to
plan
around
tom.
F
G
Don't
think
that
we
not
well
I
was
comfortable
with
a
15
feet,
because
I
really
think
no
matter
how
light
we
make
it,
it's
really
not
going
to
be
enough.
People
are
just
going
to
expand
the
walkway
to
meet
the
available
space,
but
you
know
I
could
live
with
the
20
feet
and
a
five
feet
wide
section
of
grass,
because
it's
only
a
patrolling
an
additional
two
feet.
G
As
you
said
in
into
the
internet
parks
what
I
could
live
with
it
I
think
we
think
we
have
to
drop
back
and
talk
about
the
the
seawall
as
a
standalone
issue
and
make
a
decision
on
that,
and
then
I'd
like
to
come
back
and
spend
a
little
more
time
on
the
walkway
again,
but
just
a
question
that
I
have
and
I
just
want
to
throw
it
out
there.
For
you
guys
think
about
is
the
grass
that
we
have
there.
It's
going
to
be
grass
that
we
have
to
maintain.
G
We
may
get
fire
ants
there
and
that's
going
to
have
to
be
treated.
I
just
want
to
throw
out
the
possibility
of
putting
a
artificial
turf
there
and
I
know
that
there
are
issues
with
artificial
turf
that
would
have
to
be
dealt
with
that
maybe
drainage
issues
that
may
be
leaching
issues,
but
just
wanted
to
kick
grow
it
out
there
for
you
guys
there
consider
if
that
was
the
appropriate
time
since.
E
I,
have
it
in
my
yard,
I
guess:
I
could
speak
to
it
since
I
had
a
fight,
City
Hall,
keep
it
in
my
yard.
It's
hard
to
maintain
it
really.
Is
you
wouldn't
think
so?
But
the
more
seems
that
you
have
like
the
little
pieces
that
we
have
over
at
the
linear
park.
The
more
seems
you
have
the
uglier.
It
gets
the
harder
it
is
to
keep
nice
the
harder
is
to
keep
down.
D
H
The
record
jen
lobo
urban
design,
there
are
options
of
different
types
of
grass
we
can
use.
That
would
be
less
maintenance
on
them.
You
know
we
could
go
with
something
a
little
higher
and
it
would
be
like
a
spartina
or
something.
So
we
are
looking
into
other
options.
Do
to
that
maintenance
issue
and.
F
G
H
G
H
G
B
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
recall,
specifically
the
number
but
the
previous
number
per
linear
foot
cost
for
the
five
foot
wide
wall
was
twelve
hundred
and
fifty
the
current
number
that
we're
using
is
eleven
hundred
and
fifty.
So
there
is
some
cost
savings
and
these
numbers
that
we're
looking
at
or
only
the
phase
to
see
wall
so
they're,
not
inside
the
phase
that
you're
getting
the
grant
it's
1251
feet
so
we're
you
know:
we've
reduced
the
cost
of
the
seawall
based
on
you
know
the
reduced
material,
concrete
and
rebar.
I
D
B
I,
it's
hard
to
guess:
we've
done
a
lot
of
Marina
contracts
and
we're
seeing
you
know
things
like
boat
ramp,
sea
walls
and
docs
on
public
bids.
We're
seeing
between
three
and
four
bits
most
recently
within
the
last
year
did
a
about
a
$300,000,
seawall
and
doc
project.
Sorry
built-in
happened
doc
project
and
we
received
I
believed
three
or
four
bids
and
that's
pretty
consistent
for
what
we're
seeing
just
you
know,
people
that
are
regionally
located
that
can
do
it
at
an
affordable
price.
That's
specialize
in
the
marina
work.
G
E
I've
been
told
by
somebody
in
the
industry
that
there
is
not
just
the
cost
savings
with
material,
but
there
should
be
a
cost
savings
with
the
forming
and
the
labor
involved
in
reducing
the
width
of
us
evil,
not
just
concrete
and
rebar,
because
they
have
to
form
the
whole
entire
five
feet.
And
now
they
only
have
to
form
two
feet.
So
there
should
be
some
labor
cost
savings
and.
I
E
I
E
A
G
F
C
I
I
G
G
G
G
B
Understand
and-
and
you
know,
you're
right-
that
the
deity
will
not
accept
the
five
of
wine
seawall
cap
without
the
handrail.
Previously,
though,
the
city
did
submit
our
sixty
percent
plans,
they
call
them
to
the
d-o-t
to
do
an
extensive
review.
The
d-o-t
did
not
comment
anyway,
that
the
seawall
was
unacceptable.
They
reviewed
the
seawall.
B
They
made
numerous
comments
pertaining
to
the
embedment
depth
of
the
sea
wall
panels,
the
thickness
of
the
sea
wall
panels,
calculations
which
we
have
you
know
resolved,
but
nothing
in
any
shape
or
form,
which
indicated
that
the
size
of
the
cap
was
unacceptable
or
that
handrail
would
be
required.
So
no
based
on
that
information,
we
had
to
move
forward
with
that
design.
At
the
time.
G
E
H
F
I
G
F
Agreed
and
we
have
a
Greek
not
to
move
forward
on
the
seawall
I
think
what
you
heard
today.
We
like
this
idea
with
the
grass
and
the
20-foot
sidewalk
okay,
alright,
so
we
I
think
we're
okay
there,
but
I
agree
with
Tom
that
we
did
ask
to
see
the
plans
again
since
most
of
us
were
not
on
council
at
that
time,
but.
I
G
B
Current
plan,
it's
not
in
a
prior
plan
before
we
add
the
higher
sea
wall
cap,
we
did
have
it
going
the
long
way.
That's
something
I
think
we
certainly
need
to
visit
now,
I
think
for
the
zone,
that's
being
designed
right
now.
We
have
it
under
that
big.
You
know.
Semicircular
compass
rose
area
in
front
of
the
gazebo
and
we
have
it
around
the
pavilion
area.
B
So
we
have
it
in
a
good
amount
of
the
places
in
what
is
you
know
the
current
zone
7
when
we
move
forward
with
the
actual
park,
design
and
phase
2
I
think
we
certainly
need
to
revisit
whether
we
want
to
do
seawalls
whether
we
want
to
do
bench
pads
and
how
we
want
to
address.
You
know
seating
other
than
you
know
the
fact
that
you
could
walk
across
the
grass
and
sit
on
that
seawall
and
that's.
G
Fine,
I'm
the
reason
I'm
raising.
It
is
because
my
concern
was
if
there
were
a
continuous
seating,
have
totally
parallel
with
the
seawall
and
you're
on
a
bike
and
or
a
couple
of
bikes,
and
you
run
again
come
up
against
the
baby
carriage
or
some
old
people
walking
with
walkers.
You
need
to
be
able
to
get
off
that
walkway,
pretty
quick
and
agree
that
that
grace
gives
you
the
opportunity
to
do
that
and
avoid
a
collision.
If
that,
if
that's
seating
wall,
we're
totally
parallel,
I
would
be
concerned
about.
F
I
F
Yes,
okay,
we're
coming
on
20
after
ten,
let's
see
if
we
can
get
through
this
next
one
and
we
have
our
Charlotte
counties,
revisions
to
mineral
resource
extraction,
future
land
use
designation
and
our
attorney
has
drafted
letters
for
the
reviewing
agencies.
I
must
say,
I
believe
that
they
were
excellent.
Thank
you.
I
do.
K
F
K
Understand
it
I've
just
for
the
there
was
a
comment
in
addition
to
the
Department
of
Economic
Opportunity.
My
recommendation
of
City
Council
was
to
send
the
letter
to
Department
of
Environmental
Protection
Swift
mud,
the
Regional
Planning
Council,
and
the
Florida
Fish
and
Wildlife
Conservation
Commission.
E
In
my
discussions
with
Howard
and
I
want
to
throw
this
out
there
for
councils
consideration,
we
have
this
buffer
zone
that
we
know
about
now
and
and
and
the
pre
thought
protections
that
go
along
with
that.
My
thought
is:
with
the
City
Council
the
city
be
interested
in
trying
to
contract
with
some
independent
body.
E
What
would
we
call
them
contractors
to
do
what
Rachel
to
monitor
the
water
in
the
buffer
zone
or
monitor
the
buffer
zone
or
go
out
to
find
out
what
could
be
done
like
as
an
extra
set
of
eyes,
because
swiftlet
is
supposed
to
be
monitoring
it?
But
of
course
we
always
found
find
out
way
after
the
fact
when
there
have
been
issues
so
I
was
thinking.
Maybe
the
city
could
be
a
little
bit
more
proactive
and
try
to
find,
and
it
I
don't
even
know
how
often
they
would
do
it.
E
It
would
be
totally
up
to
us
to
try
to
explore
it,
but
some
kind
of
monitoring
of
this
protected
area
for
our
benefit.
Obviously,
we
would
have
to
ask
the
county
for
permission
because
it's
in
their
jurisdiction
but
I
think
now
is
the
time
if
we
wanted
to
move
forward
with
that
and
and
I
guess,
they're
Swift
ma
does
use
some
independent
contractors
in
other
areas.
Howard
we
found
out.
L
Tom
Jackson
Utilities
Director
for
the
record
yes
and
I
just
found
out
about
this
not
long
ago.
So
it's
a
very
timely
discussion
as
part
of
the
agency.
Cutbacks
of
the
water
management
districts
had
have
had
to
lean
their
budgets
and
the
st.
John's
Water
Management
District
no
longer
conducts
mining
inspections.
That's
contracted
out
to
a
I
believe
in
engineering
firm,
but
I'm
getting
more
details
on
that.
So
it
it's
not
something
that
isn't
being
done.
It's
just
in
my
mind,
that's
a
legal
question
of
who
has
jurisdiction
to
do
that.
L
F
There
be
an
opportunity
to
work
with
Swift
mud
and
to
request
them
to
do.
You
know
to
report
back
to
us
about
their
monitoring,
because,
if
they're
supposed
to
be
monitoring
what
the
mines
are
doing,
perhaps
what
we
should
be
doing
is
receiving
reports
from
them
to
make
sure,
and
that
would
be
then
why
should
we
be
paying
for
something
that
they
are
responsible
for?
My.
F
L
L
E
L
We
have
we
have
passed
in
nineteen
sixty
four
as
a
law
of
the
land.
It's
not
a
statute
and
I'm,
not
an
attorney.
So
I'm
going
to
I'm
waiting
in
two
very
sketchy
understanding
of
this,
but
there
are
two
types
of
laws
or
statutes
and
then
there's
a
law
that
pertains
to
a
specific
jurisdictional
area.
That's
not
statewide!
Yes,
special
act
that
the
legislature
did
in
1964,
giving
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
the
right
to
regulate
septic
tanks.
L
In
our
watershed,
even
in
Charlotte
County,
and
to
this
day
we
have
a
program,
will
reinspect
septic
tank
placement
and
construction,
&,
Co
septic
tanks,
and
we
charge
a
fee
for
that.
What
happens
in
Charlotte,
County,
Health
Department,
anything
in
our
designated
watershed
area
with
there's
an
application
for
septic
tank.
We
get
that
application.
L
We
have
people
trained
from
the
water
plant
to
go
out,
inspect
the
site,
make
sure
they
take
tape,
measures
make
sure
they
have
the
proper
set
back
from
waters
that
contribute
to
shell
or
Prairie
Creek,
and
then
we
sign
off
on
it.
So
we
are
doing
some
of
those
sort
of
inspection
activities,
but
that
state
the
legislature
gave
us
the
authority
to
do
that
in
Charlotte.
County
see
we
don't
have
anything
like
that
for
mining.
This
is
specific
to
septic
tanks
and
I
can
send
you
that
rule
or
that
law.
L
A
Brought
what
I
was
going
to
ask
you
I,
don't
think
it's
just
the
mining
I
think
it's
these
agricultural
ponds
that
are
being
built.
Also,
that
are,
you,
know,
causing
problems
and
no
one's
really
looking
at
them
at
all,
they're
not
being
regulated
at
all.
At
least
the
mines
have
people
coming
out
once
in
a
while
to
inspect
for
one
thing
or
another,
but
some
of
these
others
do
not.
So
we
just
if
you
have
a
problem,
that's
when
we
find
out
that
there's
something
right
wrong.
So
I
like.
G
G
L
G
G
L
L
F
K
We
get
to
that.
I
was
just
going
to
throw
something
out.
That
was
prompted
by
a
comment
that
Tom
just
made.
It's
obviously
way
too
late
for
this
legislative
session,
but
maybe
something
to
be
working
towards
in
the
future.
Is
that,
however
successful
we
might
be
regarding
the
comprehensive
plan
that
the
county
is
dealing
with,
we
still
are
more
or
less
on
the
outside.
K
It
would
not
be
inconceivable
for
the
legislature
to
adopt
a
special
act
that
gave
us
some
form
of
regulatory
oversight
or
jurisdiction
with
respect
through
that
watershed,
and
now
we
have
a
lobbyist
and
maybe
something
that
we
can
work
together
with
for
something
in
the
next
year
that
you're
following,
and
what
have
you
so
that
we
do
have
the
authorities
similar
to
what
was
done
in
the
60s
regarding
the
septic
tanks,
enforcement
capability
or
monitoring
capability
of
whatever
the
legislature
would
give
us.
Regarding
that
that
watershed.
K
We
at
the
last
council
meeting
when
we
were
discussing
this
I
indicated
among
the
things
that
we
should
be
getting
our
copies
of
the
current
permits.
That's
what
my
days
for
these
minds.
Unfortunately,
we
weren't
able
to
obtain
those
prior
to
the
time.
I
wrote
this
letter,
but
going
forward.
Those
are
critical
to
be
able
to
understand
exactly
you
know
what
is
the
operating
constraints
on
those
mines
of
any
and
how?
How
do
we
need
to
address
them?
There's
any
huge
deficiencies.
F
D
F
F
K
K
The
city
has
the
opportunity
for
me
to
tap
into
that
from
time
to
time
and
as
I
expressed
earlier,
my
hourly
hourly
rate,
although
it's
not
as
high
as
the
one
that
we
talked
them,
it's
pretty
close
and
and
so
you
get
a
lot
of
expertise
from
my
firm
at
165
dollars
an
hour.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention.
K
K
We
have
on
a
contract
dispute
and
you
know-
and
I
also
have
you
know
a
lot
of
access
and
I've
done-
that
throughout
the
years
just
consult
with
attorneys
in
my
firm
that
you
guys
get
to
benefit
from
so
I
just
want
to
take
that
opportunity
to
let
you
know
who
you
have
Surya
Torian,
what
kind
of
phone
you
have!
That's
actually
got
your
back
well,.
F
C
F
J
F
F
City
Council
members
comments.
Oh
there
is
one
other
thing
I
said.
I
would
share
this
with
everyone
there's
a
couple
that
met
last
night
at
the
chamber
event
and
they
are
making
by
hand
quilts
for
little
teddy
bears
and
they
give
out
a
hundred
a
year
a
hundred
a
month
to
the
children
at
our
children's
hospital
in
fort
myers,
and
so
they
obviously
could
use
some
support
for
the
material
that
they're
doing,
but
I
thought
that
then
they're
so
cute
and
again
for
any
child
that
needs
to
have
support.
I
said
I
would
mention
it.
C
So
the
only
way
you
can
get
to
northbound
41
is
to
go
out
and
I'll
show
you
maps
at
the
future
council
meeting
is
to
go
out
and
make
u-turns
if,
if
you're
a
semi,
the
only
way
you
can
leave
that
the
shopping
center,
if
you
want
to
go
northbound
on
41,
is
to
go
south
on
burnt
store
road,
go
to
act,
line
road
and
then
go
north
on
41.
As
a
result,
what's
happened
is
tripoli.
C
Boulevard
between
madrid
and
Monaco
has
been
turned
into
an
alternate
access
and
no
matter
how
much
PG
PD
tries
to
work
with
all
the
shop
owners
they
get
rebuffed
from
shop
owners,
there's
a
high
turnover
with
the
drivers.
So
they
don't
there's
no
memory
retention
there
on
that
they're
not
supposed
to
be
using
Tripoli
I've.
Seen
public
semis
going
down
Tripoli
I
know
other
people
who
have
seen
that,
and
that
is
a
local
road.
Is
that
correct.
C
Something
I
could
probably
do
you
have
an
ordinance
that
restricts
the
number
of
I
believe
its
wheels
on
the
trucks.
26
doesn't
stop
anybody
and
and
PG
or
PG
PD.
You
know,
I'm
talking
with
Tom
Lewis
said
you
know
we
put
people
out
there,
but
we
can't
monitor
that
road
people
speed.
We
get
complaints
from
the
residence.
C
It's
a
problem
and
the
only
solution
is
to
really
in
I
have
the
support
of
kite
Realty,
who
owns
the
shopping
center
there
behind
there.
They
support
me
on
this.
Their
traffic
people
in
Indianapolis
support
this,
the
vartals
association.
What
a
director's
supports
this
two
of
the:
what
do
they
support
Nancy
in
exploring
a
solution
and
I've
been
working
with
mark
garing
on
what
could
be
a
possible
solution?
C
It's
an
issue
that
I
believe
it's
the
unintended
consequence
of
F
dot
regulations
that
they
follow
the
regulations
and
they
redesign
the
intersections
along
US
41.
They
I,
don't
I'll,
give
them
the
benefit
of
the
doubt.
I
do
not
believe
that
they've
really
realized
what
they've
done
in
turning
in
this
residential
street
into
an
alternate
access.
So
I
want
to
bring
this
back
to
us
with
some
maps
to
show,
because
then
for
a
council
discussion,
so
that
then
you
could
take
it
to
the
NPO
taking
I'm.
C
C
We
all
you
get
into
problems,
because
you
know
here's
the
issue
you
get
into
problems
with
local
deliveries.
There
are
semis
that
come
in
there.
That
might
be
a
local
delivery.
Let's
true
to
you,
know,
they're
all
kinds
of
issues
you
can
say:
let's
put
a
speed
bump,
let's
put
in
some
stanchions.
Well,
then
you
know
what
people
are
going
to
do:
they're
going
to
go
down
and
use
bordeaux,
they're
going
to
go
down
and
use
monaco
go
down
to
Monaco
and
come
up
with
I
mean
people
are
going
to
seek
and
go
around.
Okay.
C
We
would
like
I'd
like
for
it,
we'd
like
for
F
dot,
to
go
back
and
revisit
what
you
have
done
and
ultimately
probably
go
back
and
put
something
in
where
Madrid
can
turn
onto
new
41
northbound,
somehow
may
even
a
light.
Well,
it's
very
close
to
Jones
loop,
road
and
Bernstein
road.
That's
the
issue,
but
I
have
the
map
off
the
GIS
website
that
shows
in
1999,
where
you
used
to
be
able
to
go
out
and
turn
left
and
don't
know.
C
C
I
C
C
A
The
weather
will
be
a
little
bit
warmer
and
it'll,
be
a
nice
day
and
I
did
have
the
opportunity
to
fill
in
for
Carolyn
and
go
down
to
bonita
springs
and
do
the
Comcast
newsmakers.
And
what
I
talked
about
is
what
a
wonderful
community
we
have
of
volunteers
and
the
volunteerism
and
how
important
our
volunteers
are
in
our
community
and.
D
F
G
Please
I
just
like
to
say
a
decision
today
and
awarding
a
contract
to
construct
an
ro
plant
will
ensure
there
are
citizens
and
water
customers
will
have
a
source
of
clean,
reliable
source
of
drinking
water
into
the
future.
In
addition,
the
measures
we
have
taken
to
ensure
that
the
surface
water
within
our
watershed
remains
protected
on
the
original
provisions
of
the
county's
comprehensive
plan
could
not
have
been
more
appropriate
and
I
again
complement
our
attorney
for
doing
right
think
is
a
wonderful,
wonderful
job.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
F
D
M
Traffic
on
Tripoli
and
it
something's
got
to
be
done
because
I
would
not
want
to
live
in
that
Street,
and
it
really
has
changed
since
that
whole
intersection
was
was
changed
so
and
she's.
Correct
she's
got
the
entire
support
of
our
community
that
we
really
got
to
do
something.
That's
an
accident
waiting
to
happen
for
the
people
to
live
a
long
there.
M
But
if
you
go
from
the
sea
wall
to
the
total
promenade,
as
proposed
I,
think
it
takes
it
from
this
wall
to
that
post.
Okay,
so
that's
a
pretty
big
incursion
into
the
grass
there,
so
it
would
be
may
be
nice
to
be
able
to
see
how
the
whole
park
Mike
look
if
you
had
something
that
wide
and
that
massive
going
down
the
entire
length
of
the
park
yeah.
M
Maybe
you
already
have
it,
but
and
I
certainly
like
to
see
it,
and
it
was
great
awarding
that
contractors
I'm
a
big
proponent
of
the
ro
plant,
but
the
financing
that
project,
I
think,
still
is
a
concern
unless
something's
been
recently
settled,
but
we
seem
to
be
on
the
treadmill
between
the
county
and
swift
button
ourselves.
So
I
don't
know
where
we
are
with
the
total
total
financing
of
it.
But
it's
a
it's
a
big
number.
M
I
think
we
don't
have
covered
yet
so
yeah
and
I,
don't
not
sure
the
citizen
tree
really
knows
exactly
where
we
stand
when
the
proposals
I
make
at
the
utility
advisory
board,
which
perhaps
we
have
a
workshop
between
City,
Council
and
utility
advisory
board,
and
maybe
a
few
others
to
be
able
to
more
solidify
some
of
the
strength
we
have,
because
we
got
to
come
up
with
some
financing.
For
that
thing
and.
F
N
J
Buckley
punta
gorda,
butters
Alliance,
be
very
brief.
We
had
a
meeting
yesterday.
I
also
am
on
the
advisory
board
of
team
clinic
or
its
maritime
committee,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
you
folks
about
the
waterfront
activity
center
and
I
think
we
have
to
keep
this
in
the
back
of
our
minds,
its
location.
What's
what's
going
to
be
involved
in
its
building
and
there
we
will
be
putting
together
an
effort
to
speed
up
the
process.
N
I
think
the
design
is
four
years
out,
we'd
like
to
figure
out
a
way
that
that
can
be
moved
up,
but
I
don't
know
that
the
what
you
decided
today
is
going
to
interfere
in
any
way.
I
just
think
before
you
put
stuff
the
end
that
has
to
be
eventually
torn
out.
You
know
you
want
to
maybe
consider
that
so
thank.
F
I
We
have
consistently
or
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
we
continue
to
put
out
information
regarding
how
we
plan
to
finance
the
RO
plan,
even
without
one
additional
grant
fund.
The
state
revolving
loan
fund
has
dollars
available
there
waiting
for
us
to
present
to
them
after
the
final
design,
construction
documents,
and
if
we
get
nothing
else.
D
I
Other
grant
funds
and
we
have
to
finance
the
whole
plan
and
project
ourselves.
We
plan
to
submit
to
the
state
revolving
loan
fund
to
finance
over
a
long
term
loan
payable
over
the
typical
loans
20
years.
We
can
go
25
if
we
want
it's
a
very
low
interest
rate
right
now,
very
favorable
interest
rate.
We
don't
know
how
what
that
interest
rate
will
be
when
we're
ready,
but
we
will
finance
the
whole
project.
We
have
already
put
out
in
our
weekly
reports
that
we
project
a
twelve
percent
rate
increase
with
no
additional
grant
funds.
I
We
would
smooth
that
over
three
to
four
years,
we're
going
to
confirm
that
read:
increase
with
a
rate
consultant
that
we're
going
to
be
presenting
that
contract
soon,
you've
already
given
us
the
go
ahead
to
go
and
get
that
rate
consultant
on
board,
they
will
confirm
that
twelve
percent
number
may
go
up,
may
go
down,
but
we're
in
that
ballpark.
So
we
have
consistently
been
putting
that
information
out.
We
have
a
financing
plan.
The
question
is:
with
whatever
additional
grant
funds
we
get,
we
can
lower
the
amount
we
need
from
the
state
revolving
runs.
F
We
currently
have
our
lobbyists
Geri
Paul
and
his
team
working
in
Tallahassee
again
urging
our
senators
and
congressional
leaders
to
help
fund
our
ro
plant.
We've
asked
this
year,
43
million,
which
will
help
us
move
along.
We
are
continually
working
with
Swift
mud
and
with
the
Water
Authority
and
terms
of
moving
the
project
along
and
obtaining
funding.
So
it's
not
as
though
it's
a
static
situation.
We
keep
moving.
We
keep
pedaling
and
we're
just
hoping
that
the
again
the
grant
funding
will
come
through
and.
G
I
It's
the
entire
okay,
we're
going
to
have
a
rate
study
that
will
confirm,
should
we
put
it
all
on
the
water
and
sewer,
so
we
put
it
more
on
water
than
less
honest
or
put
all
that
information
will
be
coming
back.
That
is
our
staffs
analysis
of
what
we
think
the
rates
would
have
to
go
up
in
order
to
finance
the
rest
of
the
whole
project
on
our
own,
based
on
the
interest
rate
that
the
state
revolving
loan
fund
has
they're
waiting
for
us
to
apply
and
that.