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From YouTube: Punta Gorda City Council 2-4-15 Part 3
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A
That
we're
shifting
emphasis
here
on
which
should
be
a
pearler
and,
in
my
mind,
should
certainly
be
permitted,
as
opposed
to
this
aluminum
louver
device,
which
I
have
a
bit
of
a
problem.
I'd
be
more
comfortable
if
we
had
language
similar
to
what
they
have
here
and
enables
cables
concerning
well
fifty
percent
open
to
the
sky
and
show
that
and
that
using
that
kind
of
a
criteria
I
mean.
B
D
D
B
B
C
D
E
This
is
the
second
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
will
read
by
Title
only
Lawrence
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
Florida,
amending
chapter
26
public
order
code
known
as
the
land
development
regulations,
mending
article
8
standards
of
general
applicability,
section,
8.9
model
homes,
apartment
and
condominiums,
providing
for
definition
and
providing
for
limitation
of
permit
permitted
use
by
the
conflict
and
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
Okay,.
C
F
F
F
She
supports
it
just
wants
to
know
about
the
five-year
commitment
if
they
do
get
the
grant.
How
would
that
be
handled,
because
I
think
they
want
a
council
member
to
be
a
part
of
the
group
and
when
I
discussed
it
with
her
I
said
well?
Who
council
has
makes
appointments
to
various
committees
and
council
members
change?
So
if
they
do
get
the
grant
and
want
a
council
member
to
be
a
part
of
the
group,
but
after
just
two
points,
I'm
ready
for
the
five
years?
A
D
D
Other
comments
on
that
my
concern
was
the
need
to
lease
a
car
for
four
months,
and
maybe
we
might
have
some
comments
with
regards
to
not
being
able
to
find
a
truck
in
our
community
that
would
or
two
trucks
in
our
community
that
would
meet
the
needs
of
code
compliance
without
having
to
go
and
again
wait.
Four
months
for
the
truck
to
be
delivered.
The.
F
We
did
shop
locally,
there
are
trucks
locally,
they
were
not
competitive
locally.
Unfortunately,
they
cost
more,
including
when
you
take
into
account
the
rental
costs.
They
were
still
more.
So
yes,
as
a
council,
you
can
make
a
decision
to
just
say:
that's
buy
locally
and
get
there,
but
from
our
viewpoint
from
procurements
viewpoint,
we
shop
what
the
best
deal
was
through
the
state
contract
and
when
we
got
that
price
plus
the
rental,
it
still
came
in
less.
C
I'm
a
pickup
truck
owner
and
when
we
made
a
decision
in
2008
to
purchase
a
pickup,
we,
our
preference
initially
was
to
look
for
one
that
was
used,
but
the
price
on
used,
pickup
trucks
is
so
close.
The
to
the
to
the
retail
price
of
a
new
truck,
the
depreciation
is
so
little
that
it's
like.
Well,
why
buy
a
used
one
and
we
bought
a
new
one
and
so
from
a
city
standpoint.
The
investment
is
really
good
and
so
I
have
no
problem
with
them
with
the
rental.
D
D
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
to
approve
d
10
in
favor
aye,
okay,
moving
on,
we
have
now
six
and
comments
on
regular
agenda
items
only
we
have
unfinished
business,
our
one
percent
local
option:
sales,
tax
status
report,
rotary
servicing
report,
South,
County
overlay,
district
update,
a
life
jacket,
loaner
stand
proposal
for
ponts
use
of
the
city
filled
by
organisations
and
issues
related
to
procedure
for
protecting
shale
Creek
Watershed.
The
regards
to
the
Charlotte
County's
proposed
comprehensive
plan
amendments.
G
Good
morning
my
name
is
Deborah
Highsmith
and
I'm
speaking
to
you
as
the
conservation
chair
of
the
greater
Charlotte
Harbor
Sierra
Club
I'm
speaking
in
relationship
to
agenda
item
9b
and
I
support
you
in
your
decision
making
process
to
protect
the
shale
Creek
watershed
and
I
want
to
compliment
mr.
Levin
on
a
superb
memo
to
your
City
Council
members
on
this
issue,
I'm
speaking
today.
Also
as
a
person
who
drinks
your
water,
I'm
also
an
individual
petitioner
in
a
current
comprehensive
plan.
G
Amendment
challenge
on
october
23rd
myself
and
the
greater
Charlotte
Harbor
Sierra
Club,
filed
a
challenge
for
a
formal
administrative
hearing
on
an
earlier
package
of
comprehensive
plan.
Amendments
and
our
case
has
been
consolidated
with
another
case
in
West
County
from
the
Friends
of
cape
haze,
so
I,
and
we
are
already
challenging
dozens
and
dozens
of
proposed
amendments
to
smart
Charlotte
2050.
Some
of
them
involve
wetland
protection,
buffers
wildlife
corridors,
public
access
to
water,
private
access
to
conservation,
lands,
neighborhood
compatibility,
transfer
density
units,
evacuation
time,
sprawl,
smart
planning
principles.
The
list
is
long
and
distinguished.
G
The
MRE
amendment
that
you
are
addressing
today
is
just
one
and
a
new
petition
of
dozens
and
dozens
of
articles
that
are
being
challenged.
Smart
Charlotte
2050
was
a
product
of
a
huge
community
output
two
and
a
half
years.
20
public
meetings,
800
online
comments.
It
is
the
vision,
goals,
policies
and
objectives
of
a
community.
It's
a
30-year
plan
for
growth
and
natural
resource
protection
that
was
finalized
in
2011.
G
We
and
I
am
challenging
to
preserve
that
plan
and,
finally,
one
word
about
permitting
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot
about
permitting
agencies.
Permit
impacts,
that's
what
they
do.
Local
governments
plan
their
land
use,
that's
what
smart
Charlotte
2050
does
and
we're
also
challenging
to
protect
Charlotte
County
and
it's
right
to
protect
your
watershed.
Thank.
D
G
D
I
Good
morning,
Jerry
Waxler
with
McCrory
law,
firm
I'm,
representing
the
Vermont
Road
partnership
or
indie
cattle
and
DM
construction,
all
three
of
whom
have
mines
within
existing
mines
that
are
partly
within
the
half
mile
mining
and
excavation
prohibited
area
for
the
county
that
prohibition
area
was
new
is
new.
It
was
adopted
about
the
2050
plan,
but
it's
also
important
to
recognize
that
that
prohibition
against
commercial
mines
is
just
that
it
reflected
a
bias
against
commercial
mining.
The
prohibition
area
does
not
prohibit
farms.
I
Or
prohibit
mines
where
the
dirt
is
going
to
stay
on
the
property.
Again,
the
mind
can
be
just
as
large,
but
if
they're
using
it
on
the
property,
for
instance,
as
Florida
tracks
and
trails
has,
that
is
not
prohibited
either.
So
it
is
important
to
recognize
that
there
really
wasn't
a
concern
about
mining,
because
if
there
was
it
would
have
looked
at
all
three
of
those
types
of
minds
because
they
could
have
the
same
impacts.
I
It
was
simply
just
a
bias
against
commercial
excavations,
primarily
coming
from
concerns
about
excavations
that
had
previously
been
approved
along
the
Washington
Luke
corridor
and
residents
along
there
who
objected
to
those
all
three
of
the
mines
that
I
represent,
are
all
lawfully
permitted
mines
and
they
under
have
undergone
an
extensive
review
first
by
county
staff.
Second,
by
a
hearing
officer
and
a
quasi
judicial
hearing
and
third
by
the
Southwest
Florida
Water
Management
District,
all
the
mines,
not
just
the
three
that
I
represent,
but
all
mines
that
are
ultimately
approved
are
designed
with
redundancies.
I
They
are
there
to
ensure
that
there
are
multiple
processes
that
prevent
unfiltered
water
from
leaving
the
excavation
site.
There
have
been
mines
operating
within
this
new
prohibition
area
for
over
20
years
and,
with
the
exception
of
the
incident
that
you
had,
which,
as
we
now
know,
was
not
caused
by
a
lawfully
permitted
mine
with
exception
of
that
one
incident,
there
have
been
no
incidents
and
no
impacts
to
your
water
supply
during
the
20
years.
Those
mines
have
been
in
existence.
However.
I
We
would
like
to
meet
with
Tom
your
utilities
director
and
with
Jonah
bow
to
craft
language
that
would
give
the
city
a
voice
in
the
permitting
process
so
that
you
are
notified
when
mines
either
new
mines
come
in
or
extensions
to
mines
are
proposed,
and
so
that
you
have
the
ability
to
make
comments
as
the
city
as
the
rather
the
county
goes
through.
That
review
gary
is
also
available.
I
Well,
if
we
were
come
up
with
that
language,
we
would
commit
to
going
together
with
the
city
and
proposing
it
to
the
county
as
a
revision
to
their
existing
mining
ordinance,
and
we
would
be
happy
to
volunteer
our
time
and
services
to
do
that
and
work
with
the
city
on
that.
Gary
is
also
here.
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
interest,
but
he
does
have
he
made
a
presentation
earlier
to
your
utilities.
I
guess,
oversight
board,
and
he
has
that
same
presentation.
I
If
you
have
an
interest
in
seeing
how
mines
are
designed
and
the
kinds
of
things
that
occur
in
the
mine
design,
that
creates
those
that
safety
to
ensure
that
there
are
no
impacts
to
your
water
supply.
So
with
that,
I
would
ask
that
you
give
us
some
direction
if
you
would
like
us
to
work
with
your
staff,
and
you
would
ask
that
well.
I
should
already
made
my
question
that
we
get
some
directive.
D
E
I
Have
they
are?
They
have
existing
permits
that
will
expire?
The
language
that
was
changed
in
the
comprehensive
plan
would
allow
those
existing
permits
to
be
extended
so
that
they
could
complete
the
mine
for
which
they're
originally
permitted.
The
extension
would
not
allow
any
expansion
of
their
mining
efforts.
They
would
be
required
to
come
that
that
they
have
been
in
compliance
with
their
permits
during
the
time
of
the
original
permit.
J
Hi,
my
name
is
mark
is
sure
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
CTO
foundation
for
boating
safety.
We
just
simply
want
to
put
a
life
jacket.
Loaner
stand
at
your
ponce
de
leon
park.
Boat
ramp
cost
the
city,
nothing,
we
maintain
it.
We
provide
the
life
jackets,
there's
no
stipulation
as
to
how
long
it
would
have
to
be
there.
We
would
remove
it
at
your
choice
if
your
discretion,
if
you
chose
to
not
want
it
there
any
longer
all
the
rest
of
the
ramps
in
charlotte
county
have
let
us
install
them.
J
It's
been
a
great
system.
We've
been
recording
how
many
you're
coming
and
going
and
things
like
that.
It's
it's
a
free,
no
cost
to
the
city.
I
really
don't
see
any
reason
not
to
let
us
put
one,
but
this
has
to
be
done.
I
guess
so.
I'm
asking
you
guys
to
allow
us
to
put
one
with
the
city.
I've
got
some
pictures
of
the
stands,
and
things
like
that.
I.
B
J
J
J
J
We
are
absorbing
some
of
the
costs
as
a
local
business
to
maintain
them.
The
only
some
of
the
concern
that
I've
found
is
that
we're
trying
to
get
advertising
the
only
place
that
we
are
actually
advertising
understand,
as
our
phone
number
is
on
here.
That's
simply
so
people
can
call
and
say
your
stand
needs
to
be
replenished
or
could
you
it's?
J
Everybody
knows
when
we
are
so
the
only
other
issue
is
people
have
said
you
know:
are
they
disappearing?
What
are
you
going
to
keep
up
on
it?
We've
had
really
really
good
luck.
It's
been
surprising
to
me
that
the
community
is
actually
bringing
these
things
back.
You
know
I
thought
you
know
what
I
mean
I
thought
Jesus
we're
gonna
be
like
every
day
we're
going
monday.
We're
gonna,
have
to
go
down
and
put
new
life
jackets
on
these
stands
and
they're
actually
wearing
out
before
they're
disappearing.
That's
wonderful!.
D
K
Good
morning
I'm
Rick
freed
on
9b
the
excavation
ordinance.
Let
me
explain:
I'm
the
one
that
got
the
watershed
signs
put
on
shale
and
prairie
creek
both
on
the
road
and
on
the
water
side.
No
one
else
seemed
interested
I'm,
a
Florida,
Master
Naturalist.
As
part
of
my
graduation,
everybody
needed
a
project
that
was
my
project.
I
got
a
grant.
K
I
live
on
shale
Creek
I
have
called
the
water
department
to
report
an
excessive
algae
bloom
I,
also
AM
the
Sierra
Club
outings
leader
that
leads
to
canoe
and
kayak
trips,
up
shale
Creek,
Peace
River
and
occasionally
Prairie
Creek,
one
of
the
things
I
explained
to
people.
Besides,
what
treat
this
is,
and
why
is
its
high
banks
and
what-have-you,
is
though
we
are
paddling
through
a
very
pristine
looking
forest.
If
you,
google,
map
shale
Creek
you'll,
see
it's
just
a
very
narrow
band
of
green
surrounded
by
groves
cattle
grazing
and
some
excavations.
K
K
K
Think
you've
got
to
look
more
forward
than
just
who
needs
to
make
money
out
of
excavations
right
now,
I
grew
up
in
Florida
since
nineteen
forty
one
on
the
east
coast,
I
watched
some
business
decisions
by
councils
who
let
miami
beach
hotels,
build
sea
walls
out
into
the
beach
and
instead
of
miles
of
beach,
ruin
miami
beach
as
the
original
beach
to
go
to.
I
think
we
need
more
planning
for
the
future
and
not
so
much
planning
as
to
who
pockets
were
lining
right
now.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
My
name
is
Adam
Cummings
I'm,
twenty-eight
year
resident
of
the
city,
live
over
behind
the
library.
The
road
resurfacing
status
report
love
it
thanks
for
doing
the
roads
hope
that
West
grace
street
is
included
in
the
list
of
still
to
do.
South,
County
overlay
district
update
council
member
comments
about
annexation.
L
That's
the
right
way
to
actually
do
the
special
overlay,
my
opinion,
but
the
main
item
that
I
had
an
interest
in
was
your
watershed
overlay
as
your
representative
to
the
Commission
at
the
time
that
overlay
district
was
done,
I
want
to
assure
you,
it
was
not
just
a
mere
bias
and
political
thing
against
mines.
It
was
a
deliberate
intent
to
protect
our
drinking
water
supply.
My
drinking
water
supply,
if
there
are
other
impacts
in
there
that
we
are
not
or
cannot
address.
L
That
does
not
mean
that
we
should
not
address
that
with
ones
that
we
already
are
so
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
the
efforts
that
you're
putting
forward
to
work
with
the
Commission
on
that
I
know
how
difficult
it
is.
I
made
a
deliberate
attempt
of
always
trying
to
not
step
on
the
City
Council's
toes
and
get
involved
in
what
I
perceived
is
your
business?
L
Having
said
that,
my
great-grandfather
was
the
first
mayor
of
ojas.
Florida,
probably
never
heard
of
it,
because
it
doesn't
exist
anymore
if
North,
Miami,
Beach
rolled
right
over
top
of
it
and-
and
the
point
of
that
is-
is
that
those
growth
management
decisions
can
reach
into
our
communities
and
change
our
way
of
life
and
the
direction
the
the
head
of
the
Community
Development
told
me
in
the
workshop
that
he
had
for
this
comp
plan
was
to
remove
everything
that
he
could.
That
was
in
excess
of
the
bare
minimum
requirements
of
state
law.
L
D
L
D
M
For
the
record,
Gary
being
with
Southwest
engineering,
design,
I
wasn't
going
to
comment.
I
just
wanted
to
see
how
this
played
out,
but
after
here
in
a
few
I,
just
had
a
talk
briefly
about
excavations
and
watch
what
goes
into
them
with
the
design
of
the
hydraulic
barrier,
storm
water
systems-
and
my
fear,
is,
if
you
don't
allow
the
extensions
of
the
three
or
four
mines
I
need
to
be
done.
M
I've
spoke
to
some
my
clients
and
they
would
say
well
if
I
got
five
years
in
my
permit
I'm
going
to
dig
it's
fast,
I
can't
and
as
soon
as
you
do
that
safety
goes
out
the
door.
So
it's
one
of
those
things
work.
Let's
do
these
mines
right,
let's
get
them
out
of
the
watershed.
That's
finished
them
up
how
they
were
permitted
and
go
on
overly.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
D
D
D
C
D
D
A
D
A
D
D
N
Morning,
mark
garing
public
works
here
with
a
one-percent,
Local
Option
Sales
Tax,
update,
I'll,
show
you
where
we
are
with
the
projects
from
our
capital
improvements
program.
You
can
see
the
the
ones
highlighted
in
yellow.
There
are
the
ones
that
we
have
funding
for
this
year.
Many
of
the
others
don't
start
until
future
years.
So
we'll
present
on
these
yellow
items.
First
one
is
harborwalk
at
lashley
park,
municipal
marina,
that's
where
we're
going
to
connect
the
harbor
walk
through
the
crab
house
and
the
ship
store
along
the
water.
N
There
there's
really
no
connection
between
the
lashley
and
Gilcrest
Harbor
walks
without
kind
of
finding
your
way
through
the
parking
lot
right
now,
we've
completed
concept,
drawing
January
we're
scheduling
a
meeting
with
FDEP
to
consider
a
footbridge.
A
project
budget
is
200
thousand
dollars
and
we're
hoping
to
start
in
July
there's
a
schematic
of
what
we're
going
to
accomplish
their
the
yellow
path.
Yes,
ma'am.
You.
C
Have
on
their
high-visibility
boat
ramp
crossing?
Can
you
put
something
on
this?
That
shows
that
you
have
some
kind
of
a
crossing
where
the
the
people
from
the
boat
docks
are
going
to
come
across
the
harbor
walk,
so
that
there's
something
there
where
in
the
harborwalk
that
shows
there's
a
crossing
and
just
on
this
will.
C
N
Today,
so
you
know
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
now
is
right
in
this
area.
Here
we
have
that
little
channel
that
comes
in
and
we're
hoping
to
put
in
a
footbridge
there
across
the
mangroves
we're
going
to
meet
with
dep
and
find
out
how
much
environmental
permitting
is
involved,
we're
hoping
to
go
over
the
mangroves
and
that
have
they
have
special
provisions
on
their
permitting
for
going
over
mangroves
for
docs
and
we're
hoping
that
they'll
country
consider
this
boardwalk
the
same
way
to.
N
I
can't
remember,
we
haven't
really
looked
to
see
how
long
the
boats
are
when
when
people
are
putting
them
in
I,
think
they're
beyond
that
point,
but
we're
really
we're
constrained
there.
We
have
the
the
wall
that
sticks
up
there
for
the
sidewalk,
the
ship
store
that
creates
a
blind
spot.
So
we
want
to
pull
the
walk
down
toward
the
water
as
much
as
we
can
so
they're
not
coming
across
the
path
right
from
the
blind
spot,
if
created
by
just
something
I
think
we.
A
N
C
C
N
N
N
Ok,
the
next
project
is
a
sullivan
street
lighting,
we're
installing
11
decorator
lamps
on
Sullivan
Street.
One
block
between
Retta
and
Charlotte
has
a
couple
decorator
lights
already,
so
we're
going
to
put
decorator
lights
on
the
other
three
blocks.
If
you
can
look
closely
on
there,
there's
a
red
dot
where
each
lights
going
to
go.
We've
issued
a
work
order
to
our
boring
contractor
you'll
be
out
there
in
a
week
or
two
to
start
boring.
N
Sidewalk
improvements:
this
is
a
project
where
we're
going
to
replace
the
brick
veneer
pavers
in
front
of
the
post
office.
You
can
see
from
the
photo
there
they're
all
peeling
up
requires
quite
a
bit
of
maintenance,
very
unsightly
and
we'll
be
putting
in
paver
stones.
Just
like
we
put
in
41
and
most
rest
of
marion
and
olympia.
We
did
not
anticipate
when
we
created
our
project
budget
that
we'd
be
putting
in
tree
wells
with
trees.
We
simply
gave
an
estimate
for
the
cost
to
the
pavers.
We've
worked
with
urban
design.
N
We've
come
up
with
a
plan
and
we're
asking
that
we
move
an
additional
14
thousand
dollars
to
the
project
to
cover
the
cost
to
the
tree
wells,
the
grates
and
the
trees
themselves.
We
believe,
through
our
other
projects,
the
ones
we
started
in
future
projects
that
this
won't
be
any
impact
to
completing
all
the
projects
on
our
sales
tax
list.
D
N
Storm
sewer
cleaning
truck
that
truck
that
we
have
the
tanks
on
it
are
very
rested.
The
pumps
are
born
very,
not
working,
very
well
we're
putting
a
lot
into
maintenance
truck
has
not
been
operational
for
several
months
now.
We
are
in
procurement
now
trying
to
purchase
a
new
one
and
procurement
as
tall
as
it
could
be
as
early
as
two
weeks
when
they
signed
a
purchase.
Order
for
that
next
project
is
a
DA
improvements.
We
learned
last
year
as
part
of
our
paving
that
we
need
to
upgrade
any
curb
ramps.
N
Sidewalks
that
join
the
intersections
where
we
pave.
We
have
mapped
all
of
those
we've
met
with
our
concrete
contractor.
We
have
most
of
those
ready
for
work,
they'll
be
beginning
in
the
next
few
weeks
as
well,
except
there's
a
couple
of
them
that
are
very
difficult
because
of
things
that
exist
around
the
corner.
It's
not
as
simple
as
just
replace
a
little
bit
of
concrete
this
picture
here.
You
can
see
that
this
is
corner
at
olympia.
N
The
sidewalk
continues
down
olympia,
but,
as
you
can
see
in
the
picture
here,
there's
not
even
a
ramp
going
in
that
direction.
So
things
like
that
will
be
correcting
end
up
again,
should
be
starting
any
day
now,
with
the
concrete
work,
the
public
safety
building,
the
perimeter
lighting
back
when
the
sales
tax
projects
were
first
being
discussed,
we
received
a
phone
call
from
police
department
that
asked.
Could
we
give
them
a
price
for
upgrading
the
lights
at
police
station
and
we
had
just
recently
completed
upgrading
our
lights
at
public
works?
N
N
We
did
a
model
and
using
some
new
LED
heads
that
are
directional,
we
are
able
to
give
them
good
one
foot
candle
lighting
throughout
the
parking
lot.
If
we
look
here
at
the
looking
from
the
cameras
out
at
the
site,
us
41
is
lit
very
well,
which
causes
your
eyes
to
think
that
the
parking
lot
it
is
not
lit
well,
but
it
even
amplifies
the
problem
when
you're
looking
through
the
cameras
out
at
41,
which
is
real
bright,
you
cannot
see
anything
except
shadows
on
the
police
department
parking
lot
site.
N
F
D
D
N
O
The
record
Joe
mabou
urban
design
and
our
first
project
listed
here
is
the
US
41
underpass
and
we
are
widening
and
improving
the
appearance
under
that
bridge.
The
original
scope
did
not
include
the
elimination
of
that
90
degree
angle
that
you
talked
about
earlier.
It
was
only
looked
at
to
improve
that
appearance.
If
that
90
degree
angle
is
going
to
be
required
to
be
removed,
then
there
will
be
an
additional
8500
dollars
for
that
for
that
change
in
the
design
and
that
contract
will
come
before
you
on
just
at
the
next
council
meeting.
A
F
O
F
D
F
I
H
Is
just
slope
stabilization
we've
actually
coordinated
already
with
the
do
teen
structures
office,
and
if
you
look
at
the
other
bridge,
which
I
believe
is
newer,
the
northbound
one.
It
has
a
similar
sort
of
retaining
wall
design
that
we
would
do
here
as
well
and
if
I
may,
since,
since
I
have
the
floor,
clarify
one
item,
the
elimination
of
the
90
degree
turn
and
the
adding
of
the
2
45
degree
turns
is
part
of
the
design.
H
H
A
H
Yes-
and
you
can
see
from
that-
photo
that
the
proximity
of
the
first
bent
and
the
piles
right
there.
So
there
is,
you
know,
there's
both
a
Construction
feasibility
of
working
in
the
water
under
the
bridge
and
that
close
to
the
piles.
But
there's
also
some
approval
things.
So
we're
planning
on
moving
in
towards
the
slope
stabilization,
which
is
a
rip
rap
bags,
that
type
of
slope
stabilization
and.
A
H
H
H
O
The
next
project
is
the
harborwalk
west
sea
wall.
At
the
count
at
our
last
meeting,
council
approved
the
seawall
cap
reduction
from
5-8
to
two
feet.
With
that
estimated
cost
savings
of
a
hundred
thousand.
We
are
working
right
now
with
do
t
to
determine
whether
or
not
railings
will
be
needed
on
that
2-foot
cap
on
public
works
is
in
negotiations
with
them
trying
to
find
out
what
exactly
that
expansion
is
that
we
need
where
we
would
not
have
to
have
that
rail
added
to
it.
F
F
F
F
F
They
may
be
even
requiring
a
handrail
if
we
went
back
to
five
feet,
cap
possible
they
weren't
before,
but
now
they
may
be.
We
have
given
them
an
idea
that
we
built
the
harborwalk
and
then
we
retain
a
grass
area
or
something
like
that
of
a
certain
width
before
you
get
to
the
seawall
and
we're
waiting
for
an
answer
on
this
to
see.
If
that
eliminates
the
need
for
him.
F
D
F
H
Close
and
I
can-
and
I
can
give
you
probably
an
actual
drop-dead
date
at
the
next
meeting-
I'm
sorry-
I
don't
have
that
information
today,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
on
some
of
the
construction
times,
the
actual
latest
time,
you're
able
to
start
your
your
Harbor
walks
on
seven
project.
So
we
will
have
that
information
and
I
can
assure
you
that
staff
and
myself
we've
been
working
very
diligently.
H
It's
been
a
little
frustrating
for
the
reasons
that
I
think
Howard
expressed,
but
we've
been
working
as
best
as
we
can
getting
information
from
the
d.o.t
and
although
we're
frustrated
with
some
of
the
responses
we're
getting,
we
can't
say
that
they've
been
very
time
lean
in
their
responses.
So
far,
they.
C
Nancy
yeah,
my
concern
is,
if
they,
even
if
they
give
us
a
response,
will
that
apply
to
zone,
seven
and
and
because
I'm
just
concerned,
they
seem
to
be
changing
it
up
and
that
they
might
just
come
back
and
say
well
and
zone
seven.
We
have
to
do
something
else
and
we
want
consistency
and
I'm
just
had
reservations,
good.
H
Point
and
what
we're
doing
is
we're
asking
for
specific
direction
for
zone
seven
for
the
other
phases
that
are
not
included
in
our
do
t
funding.
You
know
we
have
a
little
bit
more
Liberty
to
deviate
from
what
they
may
or
may
not
approve,
but
we're
asking
them.
You
know
explicitly
and
to
get
answers
in
writing
for
zone
seven
so
that
when
we
go
on
with
future
phases,
we
can
be
consistent
there.
H
P
Good
morning,
Brett
Judy
IT
manager
for
the
city,
the
city
website,
redesign
project
is
in
full
flow.
We
have
received
our
responses
to
the
RFP
and
are
they
are
under
review.
At
this
moment,
we
have
a
meeting
scheduled
on
the
seventeenth
of
februari,
where
each
of
the
three
firms
that
qualified
will
be
making
presentations
to
the
selection
committee.
P
After
that
time
will
we
will
have
will
identify
our
ranking
of
those
three
and
present
that
to
Council
for
approval
once
the
selection
of
the
vendor
has
been
made,
the
the
time
frame
based
upon
the
responses
that
we
got,
looks
to
be
anywhere
from
six
to
six
to
nine
months
from
start
to
complete
to
a
completed
website.
We
have
been
working
that
we
do
have
a
design
committee
already
selected
that
has
been
meeting
and
has
met
several
times
to
try
and
work
on
what?
P
What
is
the
content
that
we
want
to
be
in
there
working
with
one
community?
One
message
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
adhering
to
that
that
philosophy
as
well
and
I
believe
that
the
the
work
that
we're
doing
now
will
actually
be
able
to
shave
some
of
the
time
off
of
those
those
estimates
because
we'll
be
more
prepared
than
then
the
vendor
is
going
to
expect
us
to
be
once
we
begin
working
with
them.
So
we're
in
a
very
good
place
right
now
with
this
project
and
it's
moving
along.
P
P
The
switches
in
the
core
switch
that
we
have
are
at
their
end
of
life
and
are
ready
to
be
dropped
from
support
by
the
vendor
that
we
we
we
currently
use.
We
have
been
meeting
with
the
various
manufacturers
of
equipment
that
would
replace
this
and
allow
us
to
move
the
city
on
to
a
network
which
uses
the
latest
in
technology,
future-proof
star
investment,
so
that
it's
going
to
be
scalable
well
into
the
future
and
allow
us
to
continue
to
build
our
network
in
both
products,
its
efficiency
and
its
ability
to
be
expanded
as
necessary.
P
As
we
decide
to
branch
out
into
other
areas,
the
the
core
switch
and
the
backbone
when
they're
in
place
should
affect
our
connectivity
between
all
of
the
city
facilities
and
improve
it.
It's
efficiency
tenfold
where
we're
currently
running
on
a
1
gigabyte
backbone
that
will
increase
to
a
10
gigabyte
backbone
with
the
ability
in
the
equipment
that
we're
looking
at
to
actually
upgrade
when
the
technology
will
be
becomes
more
affordable
to
a
40
gigabyte
backbone.
How
does
this
affect
us?
P
So
it's
going
to
allow
us
to
to
be
able
to
keep
better
backups
to
eventually
move
to
a
place
where
we're
running
actual
redundant
sites
so
where,
if
we,
if
one
site
in
the
city
should
go
down
due
to
whatever
a
storm
or
a
minor
disaster
that
will
be
actually
able
actually
fall
back
on
a
co-located
site
and
with
the
efficiency
of
the
network.
Be
able
to
function
is
that
we
were
on
our
main
network
with
almost
no
difference.
The.
P
It's
at
the
public
safety
facility,
we're
working
with
the
county
right
now
to
possibly
move
that
too,
a
little
bit
more
hardened
facility
out
at
the
airport
that
they
have
some
space
in
and
so
we're.
We
already
have
a
fiber
link
to
that.
Our
improvement
to
the
network
already
incorporates
that
facility.
P
So
if
we
can
work
out
the
rack
space
that
will
need
to
move
our
servers
there,
then
then
that
will
actually
become
our
secondary
I
would,
at
some
point
in
time
like
to
move
it
a
little
bit
further
away
from
from
the
city
just
to
give
us
a
little
so
that
both
of
our
sites
aren't
within
the
path
of
a
single
storm
or
a
single
incident,
but
it
but
it
as
it
as
things
are
right
now
having
in
that
hardened
facility
would
suffice.
You
know
what
would
keep
us
for
has.
D
P
P
Would
would
take
us
that
next
step
up
the
ladder,
after
that,
it
would
be
relocating
to
somewhere,
probably
in
Florida,
in
a
different
part
of
the
state
that
wouldn't
be
affected
by
something
that
would
affect
us
where
we
would
be
able
to
get
into
a
facility
like
that
at
a
lower
cost.
Because
of
it
we
could
do
a
co
I'm,
forgetting.
P
Agreement
where
we
would
be
able
to
do
the
same
thing
for
them.
Thank
you,
but
then
to
look
at
going
further
away.
You
start
to
get
into
the
expense
of
paying
for
a
site,
and
that
would
be
that
would
make
it
more
expensive.
We
are
looking
at
some
of
our
applications
and
processes
are
we're
looking
at
moving
into
off-site
into
the
into
the
cloud
into
the
use
over
the
web,
which
review
which
storm
proofs,
those
applications
and
and
so
as
we
modernize.
P
C
C
P
Absolutely
the
plan-
and
it
isn't
as
much
leapfrogging
as
as
the
the
technology
that
we're
using
now
we've
maxed
it
out
we're
using
it
at
its
fullest
at
the
top
end.
We
can't
we
couldn't
go
any
any
further
with
what
we've
got.
What
we're
looking
to
put
in
is
going
to
take
us
to
the
next
level,
but
put
us
at
the
bottom
end,
so
that
we've
got
room
to
grow.
P
For
example,
the
difference
between
a
10
gigabyte
optic
for
a
switch
and
Anna
40
gigabyte
optic
is
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
and
we
have
to
have
one
optic
for
every
link
that
we
have.
So
it
gets
very
gets
very
expensive
to
go
to
that
much
faster
speed,
but
we
can
start
at
ten
and
as
we
as
the
price
comes
down
as
the
technology
becomes,
more
mainstream
will
be
able
to
look
to
advancing
in
those
those
faster
speeds
to
be
able
to
accommodate
things
that
we
can't
even
anticipate
right
now.
The
needs
of
a
network.
Okay,.
P
Think
is
there
there's
one
more?
Yes,
the
digital
phone
system,
as
it
says,
the
project
will
begin
later
this
year.
The
the
currently
the
sales
tax
money
is
split
between
fiscal
year
15
fiscal
year
16,
and
we
have
to
get
the
layer
to
network
in
place
and
some
other
things
done
to
prepare
for
making
the
mood
move
to
the
digital
phone
system.
We
do
have
some
proof
of
concept,
voice
over
IP
phone
systems
and
some
of
our
outlying
facilities
that
have
been
working
very
well.
P
D
A
P
L
L
P
P
We've
been
more
waiting
for
it
to
get
to
where
it
didn't
function
anymore,
which
isn't
the
best
practice
so
using
the
funds
that
have
been
set
aside
here,
it's
going
to
allow
us
to
upgrade
some
of
our
software
systems,
get
them
back
on
maintenance
and
get
bring
them
up
to
two
latest
levels
and
also
put
us
in
a
position
I'm
meeting
with
each
of
the
departments.
Right
now,
as
I
prepare
our
IT
budget
and
we're
discussing
with
each
of
them,
their
equipment
needs
we're
showing
them
their
inventory
of
equipment.
P
What
the
oldest
twenty-five
percent
of
their
equipment
is
and
and
reviewing
that
to
see
how
much
of
this
really
needs
to
be
replaced
and
up?
You
know,
brought
brought
up
to
date,
so
we're
being
we're
able
to
identify
that,
but
that
will
get
us
back
on
a
four
year
replacement
cycle.
Where
we'll
be
very
clear
each
year,
how
much
of
our
equipment
will
need
to
be
replaced,
so
these
funds
are
set
aside
to
help
us
get
those
back.
There's
things
back
on
track.
P
P
There
was
another
one
that
as
well.
I
forgot
about
that.
What
I'm
sorry,
council
chambers
equipment
we
have
already
started
this
process,
we've
upgraded
the
the
recording
in
the
chambers
from
the
old
dual
cassette
deck
to
a
new
digital
recorder
that
records
our
meetings
directly
to
our
network
allows
us
to
do
a
gives
us
a
much
better
quality,
recording
I,
think
and
gives
the
clerk's
office
the
ability
to
work
with
recordings
from
almost
any
workstation
now
is
going
to
being
tied
to
two
specific
stations.