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From YouTube: Punta Gorda City Council 7-1-2015 Part 3
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B
C
A
B
C
A
A
E
A
We
don't
but
the
finance
conference
that
I
just
came
from
the
Florida.
You
know
statewide
conference
we
did
bring
in
economic
speaker,
we
always
do
and
they
give
us
great
insight
into
not
just
I
can't
speak
specifically
a
Punta
Gorda,
but
what
all
the
big
metropolitan
areas
of
florida
are
doing
versus
what
the
nation
is
doing
and
the
long
and
short
of
it
is
that
our
growth
is
going
to
be
less
than
what
you
see
nationally.
You
know,
Florida
is
going
to
come
back
much
slower
and
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with.
A
F
F
Just
want
to
call
everyone's
attention
to
what
our
property
taxes,
what
this
ad
valorem
actually
does.
It
only
covers
thirty-three
percent
of
our
city
services.
So
what
we're
looking
at
is
what
we're
looking
at
right
now
in
terms
of
paying
for
through
our
millage.
We
only
only
covers
thirty-three
percent
of
revenue
right,
but.
C
F
Cut
it
is
a
cumulative
kind
of
thing,
but
I
just
I
guess
I
wanted
just
to
show
this
one
more
time,
because
sometimes
we
forget,
we
think
all
our
services
are
provided
through
the
ad
valorem
and
it's
only
a
very
small
segment
and
obviously,
as
the
shows
here,
we
do
have
the
other
local
option.
Sales
tax,
our
utility
tax,
as
the
communication,
tax,
franchise
fees
and
prior,
your
reserves
are
used
to
make
sure
that
this
happens.
So
just
as
a
clarification.
C
F
B
E
Leave
a
point
guide
them.
What
do
we
wear
ways
are
a
need
for
showing
1
verses
together,
just
put
in
the
agenda
item,
so
people
go
either
one
or
the
other
that
I
find
with
that
yeah
yeah
I
would
we're
talking
about
either
the
three-point
1969
or
the
3.1
786
yes,
and
ruling
out
the
rollback
rate,
yeah
yeah.
D
H
B
H
E
F
F
E
A
Can
tell
you,
however,
that
the
communication
tax
is
not
a
very
stable
tax
for
us
right
now
and
we
have
seen
some
decline
in
it,
but
we
think
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
way
they're
bundling
and
some
things
become
taxable
or
not
taxable,
depending
on
the
way
they
bundle.
So
it's
a
difficult
revenue
source
for
us
to
predict,
and
so
we
try
to
be
conservative
with
it.
A
A
F
D
Are
proposing
to
use
park,
impact
fees
or
three
projects,
one
is
the
linear
park
fitness
zone
phase,
two,
which
will
be
more
aerobic
and
strengthening
and
endurance
equipment
much
more
than
the
passive
equipment
you
see.
In
the
first
phase,
we
have
had
no
donations.
No
large
donations
for
this
one,
so
we
would
like
to
move
forward
is
very,
very
popular
we'd
like
to
complete
it
on
the
two
artificial
turf
areas
between
marion
and
olympia
along
the
linear
park
and
by
appropriating
park
impact
fees.
D
D
We
want
some,
a
DA
accessibility,
picnic
tables
benches
traffic
receptacles,
and
what
have
you?
That's?
The
first
area
we'd
like
to
put
some
improvements
there
and
some
additional
benches
for
Harper
walk
east.
That's
the
Mary
Street
overlook,
which
is
that
we
have
to
cut
through
now,
looking
through
to
the
harbor.
These
are
appropriate
uses
of
park
impact.
These
councilmember
kiessling
is
in
support
of
the
park.
In
fact,
v
plan
I,
don't
know
about
the
vice
mayor.
Well,
I
do
but
actually
I
do
based
on
our
agenda
meeting
individually.
F
So
as
we
move
forward
with
our
park
improvements
and
any
of
these
things
that
we
find
some
nice
recep
receptacles
that
can
combine
both
trash
and
recyclables
doesn't
have
to
be
glass,
plastic,
etc,
because
we
can
combine
all
of
those
but
I
think
again
we're
promoting
it
within
our
homes
and
businesses.
We
should
be
promoting
in
our
parks.
Is
that
agreeable?
What.
E
D
E
C
E
I
Good
morning,
tom
jackson,
for
the
record,
we
bring
to
you
today,
concept,
plan
and,
and
our
goal
is
to
make
you
aware
this
project
and
then
get
direction
from
the
city
council
to
do
some
more
work
on
it.
We've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
but
this
is
just
the
very
preliminary
information
for
you.
San
sebastian
is
a
neighborhood.
That
is
a
nasty
viewpoint
on
there
where
pinch.
A
penny
is
their
kind
of
behind
pinch,
a
penny
off
US
41.
They
are
in
the
county.
I
They
are
obviously
in
our
utility
service
area
and
they
have
our
water
customer,
but
they
do
not
have
sewer.
They
are
currently
on
septic
tank.
The
project
would
be
to
convert
to
change
them
from
septic
tank
and
put
in
gravity
sewer
and
connect
it
via
a
pump
station
to
our
force
main.
We
were
approached
by
a
couple
of
residents
of
San
Sebastian
that
wanted
to
do
this
project.
I
In
city
ordinance,
1363
dash
section
3,
paragraph
k,
states-
and
this
is
all
that
I'm
going
to
show
you
today
are
in
your
packet
that
the
city
may
establish
a
special
assessment
by
ordinance
to
specifically
benefited
properties
within
the
described
portion
of
Charlotte
County
to
accomplish
construction
extension
or
improvements
to
the
wastewater
system.
So
the
city
has
the
authority
to,
in
conjunction
with
the
county
and
through
our
finance
department,
to
develop
a
special
assessment
to
pay
for
this
soaring
district.
So
that
is
allowed
again.
I
I
I'll
show
you
where
we
are
in
the
process
in
terms
of
what
the
steps
are
involved
and
Steve
Steve
Adams.
The
utility
engineer,
has
actually
done
all
of
the
leg
work
on
this
with
the
residents
determining
the
process
and
the
process.
Steps
and
you'll
see
on
the
elmo
that
they're,
basically,
we've
identified
nine
process
steps
and
that
it's
the
first
being
a
discussion
of
the
process
with
the
special
assessment
method,
identifying
the
project
limits
and
then
determining
a
preliminary
cost.
I
And
that's
what
we're
here
today
to
also
show
you
is
the
two
preliminary
costs
so
see
we're
just
starting
we're
actually
in
step
3
of
9.
The
second
set
of
steps
would
include
the
big
one
that
everybody
has
a
question
for,
and
that
is
to
obtain
community
support
or
the
community
will,
and
that
is
up
to
the
residents
themselves
or
the
homeowners
association
to
determine.
If
there
is
a
will
to
do
this
project,
and
if
and
people
are
aware
of
our
cost
estimates,
we
won't
have
a
final
cost.
I
Obviously,
until
we
design
this-
and
we
go
out
on
the
street
to
bit
this
and
and
make
sure
that
that
the
majority
of
the
people
on
board
with
this
process,
this
is
a
voluntary
thing
in
in
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
we're
not
forcing
anyone
to
go
on
sewer.
This
is
has
been
related
to
us
as
the
potential
will
of
the
people
and
then
finally
I'll
put
up
on
the
screen.
I
If
I
may
steve
has
worked
out
based
on
very
recent
and
similar
projects
that
the
county
has
done,
we've
you
actually
used
their
line
item
costs
to
identify,
including
the
abandonment
of
the
existing
sewer
or
septic
tank.
What
we
think
the
cost
for
this
project
would
be
/
homeowner,
and
today
we
just
before
we
expend
any
more
time
and
we
go
out
and
have
the
homeowners
we
do
a
poll
to
collect
the
homeowners.
Will
we
just
need
your
permission
to
continue
with
this.
F
E
B
The
resident,
but
I
also
would
like
to
suggest
that
there
is
a
they
are
contiguous
with
the
city
in
one
portion
of
the
property.
So
if
you
look
at
that,
I
think
on
David,
you
could
see
that
they
are
connected
to
burn,
store
aisles
and
if
they
were
to
annex
into
the
city,
their
water
and
sewer
rates
would
go
down.
So
that
should
be
included
in
the
presentation
to
the
residents
of
what
the
potential
cost
to
them
over.
The
long
term
could
be
there's
a.
I
I
B
I
I
And
we're
doing
that
as
well.
We
learned
about
just
very
recently
some
potential
grant
opportunities
and
we
will
be
investigating
those.
Yes
again,
these
are
very
preliminary
costs
based
on
the
work,
this
identical
work,
we've
seen
done
in
Charlotte
County,
the
final
cost.
We
won't
know
until
we
actually
put
this
out
on
the
street
and
bid
it
and
we're
a
long
way
from
that
step.
Tom.
E
D
I
It's
a
resident
saying
they
had
a
neighbor
that
had
it
done
and
it
was
18
and
the
reason
we
had
John.
That
from
our
position
is
the
state
and
the
county
has
gone,
has
wavered
a
couple
of
different
times
as
to
the
requirements.
If
the
intended
state
laws
were
upheld,
where
they
went
to
the
advanced
treatment
which
is
required
by
state
law
that
close
to
a
can
no
way.
Yes,
it
could
be
very,
very
expensive,
but
we
have
not
seen
the
county
force
that
on
people,
so
it
could
be
as
high
as
18.
Yes,.
C
I
I
Because,
as
I
outlined
we're
on
step
three
of
about
nine
steps
at
this
point,
we'll
go
back
to
the
homeowners
and
and
do
a
poll
and
and
determine
what
their
will
is
and
then,
if
their
will
is
to
proceed
forward,
then
we'll
need
to
get
our
finance
folks
involved,
because
they'll
have
to
help
us
determine
what
what
the
costs
are.
You
know
what
impacts
to
the
to
the
costs
would
be
in
terms
of
borrowing
money
and
the
tax
rolls
and
things
like
that.
Yes,
you.
B
F
D
D
Previous
purchaser
back
away,
so
it's
contingent
on
the
owner,
knowing
that
must
council
changes
their
opinion.
We
are
no
intention
of
doing
a
phase
two,
but
based
on
the
fact
that
it's
under
25
thousand
dollars,
which
is
a
little
less
than
the
appraised
value
but
close
enough.
Knowing
that
we're
not
moving
forward
with
any
phase
2
whatsoever,
we
have
as
a
city,
we
have
no
use
for
the
property,
the
owner,
the
new
purchaser,
if
it,
if
it
works
out,
is
looking
at
opening
up
a
nursery
so
based
on
those
conditions.
F
D
F
J
As
you
may
recall,
we
were
scheduled
to
have
an
administrative
trial
tomorrow
on
the
city's
challenge
of
the
county
comprehensive
plan.
We
were
engaged
in
taking
depositions
of
our
respective
witnesses
last
week
in
anticipation
of
the
trial.
I
must
say
that
Tom
Jackson
and
Joan
LeBeau
acquitted
themselves
extremely
well
on
behalf
of
the
city.
We
had
done
a
lot
of
researched
in
preparation
for
the
hearing
and
I
felt
like
the
city's
position.
As
it
was
alleged,
was
a
different
was
a
supportable
position.
J
J
The
proposal
was
that
one
of
the
minds
had
hired
consultants
to
do
a
report
to
try
to
set
satisfy
us
that
the
mines
would
not
have
any
impact
to
shale
Creek
and,
of
course,
we
needed
time
to
review
that.
So
that's
why
they
agreed
to
continue
the
trial.
We
don't
have
a
date
yet,
but
we
for
the
for
the
continuation,
but
we
do
have
a
tentative
meeting
to
meet
the
week
of
July
twentieth
to
go
over
the
report
that
was
provided
to
us
and
and
discuss
potential
settlement.
J
I've
presented
that
report
to
our
experts
in
our
professionals
for
their
comments,
and
we
hoped
it
would
I
have
them
back
in
time.
For
the
for
the
meeting.
My
my
preliminary
review
of
the
report
does
not
allow
me
to
conclude
that
I
would
agree
with
the
consultants
that
there
would
be
no
impact
to
shale
Creek
but
I'm
keeping
an
open
mind
and
waiting
to
hear
from
our
consultants.
J
J
J
C
E
J
J
G
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G
C
F
G
G
G
F
J
For
the
thing,
if
I
might
it
was
very
helpful
to
have
the
access
that
we
have
to
the
Charlotte
Harbor
national
estuaries
program?
Folks,
it
is
at
a
very
short
period
of
time,
they're
willing
to
assist
us
at
an
expert
testimony
at
the
the
mine,
fearing
and
and
their
expertise,
particularly
with
respect
to
the
issues
that
were
being
presented.
J
F
B
They
actually
have
helped
there's
an
issue
with
a
canal:
it's
not
really
canal
a
drainage,
ditch
in
burnstow
meadows
that
the
residents
have
been
complaining
about
water
collecting
stagnating
thinking
that
it's
because,
when
brinster
road
was
widened,
that
there
was
a
damning
effect
of
some
riprap
it
went
in
effect.
What's
going
on,
is
that's
the
water
level
and
that
the
drainage
ditch
is
the
water
should
be
there,
but
what's
happening
is
they're,
throwing
all
the
lawn
clippings
and
things
into
the
water
and
it's
causing
the
decaying
material?
B
It's
an
anaerobic
process
that
then
the
decay
material
develops
into
muck
in
the
bottom
of
it,
which
then
causes
the
decay
in
the
algae
forming.
And
so
when
I
had
contacted
dr.
Bieber,
she
said.
Well,
there
was
another
canal
up
in
Venice
where
the
similar
thing
had
happened,
and
this
is
how
they
cleaned
it
up
and
so
now,
because
of
the
recommendation
from
Chanel
that
the
burnt
store
meadows,
homeowners
association,
realizes
that
this
is
a
problem
that
they
need
to
solve
it
they
can
solve
and
and
that
they're
going
to
work
on
it.
B
F
Solution,
so
it's
good
very
good
policy
and
legislation.
I
had
just
two
things:
I
did
want
to
mention
that
I
reached
out
to
Reverend
Lewis
Anderson
with
regards
to
what
has
happened
in
South
Carolina,
with
the
murders
of
those
many
people
and
as
we
emailed
back
and
forth
talked
about.
We
need
to
do
maybe
something
more
in
our
community
and
I
said
we're
suggesting
and
maybe
more
general
open,
meeting
and
I
said.
I
would
again
speak
with
Commissioner,
Truex
and
I
did
and
he's
also
now
in
communication
with
Reverend
Anderson.
F
So
she
had
already
agreed
to
do
that
so
that
we
can,
then
they
will
talk
about
what
that
bigger
meeting
should
look
like
and
maybe
have
that
in
September,
so
that
again
we
can
have
an
open
public
meeting,
which
I
think
is
important
for
our
community.
We
have
been
blessed
to
have
such
wonderful
police
and
good
interactions
with
our
community,
but
we
need
to
keep
it
going
so
again,
that's
lady
for
a
piece
of
unity
issue.
Thank.
H
F
I
think
you
know
we
forget
that
these
individuals
who
work
the
ham
radios
are
our
first
communicators
when
we
have
a
disaster
or
could
very
possibly
be,
and
within
they
did
this
again
test
within
five
hours.
They
had
their
own
antennas.
They
even
used
a
bamboo
pole
as
an
antenna.
They
have
I
mean
it's
just
amazing,
but
within
five
hours
they
were
communicating
around
the
country
and
world,
so
I
just
give
them
kudos
for
again
being
there
for
us
in
times
of
disaster,
so
one
dimension
that
they
doing
an
excellent
job.
E
I'm
just
very
excited
for
a
community
and
again
getting
a
benefit
of
the
funding
from
Tallahassee
and
again,
but
like
to
thank
everybody
involved
in
the
process.
I
think
it's
just
wonderful
that
I'd
also
like
to
acknowledge
our
colleague
Rachel
kiessling.
She
was
the
one
if
we
recall
it
brought
to
our
attention
that
we
should
seek
funding
for
the
Vietnam
War
and
it
just
worked
out
great
and
I'm
just
really
appreciative.
That's
it!
That's.