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From YouTube: City of Punta Gorda City Council 8-24-16 Part 4
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A
B
A
A
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E
F
A
B
C
C
F
C
The
person
that's
suffering
from
the
perfect
purpose
versus
the
person
that
you
need
to
do
the
matching,
and
it's
going
to
be
hard
for
somebody
I'm
just
playing
devil's
advocate
here.
It's
going
to
be
hard
for
somebody
and
say
well,
I'm,
not
that's
three
laps
down!
That's
not
my
problem,
even
though
they're
the
ones
that's
got
the
culvert
that
goes
from
there
a
lot
into
the
canal
and
they're
the
low
spot
on
the
black.
They
it's
still
three
lights
down.
Let.
F
F
C
Yeah
the
grass
answer:
if
we
were
to
what
really
want
to
eliminate
a
lot
of
that
thatching
problem,
we
would
write
an
ordinance
that
would
ban
a
particular
type
of
sign
in
the
future
so
that
we
wouldn't
have
the
problem
in
the
first
place.
Mm-Hmm
it's
keith
is
gone.
So
Keith
tolls
put
this
particular
side
on
my
house,
but
I
built
it.
We
love
the
house.
F
A
H
G
G
And
just
like,
when
it
receives
a
building
permit,
there
is
a
minimum
number
of
plants
for
its
landscape
planted
and
they're
required
to
maintain
that.
So,
if
they're
required
now,
let's
say
ten,
bushes
and
and
three
of
them
died
there
in
violation
of
our
code.
If
they
don't
replace
those
three.
So
maybe
if
they
don't
maintain
the
grade
of
the
swale
that
was
authorized
at
file
of
construction,
that
would
be
in
violation
of
maintaining
the
property
in
the
condition
that
was
approved
in
our.
H
A
F
H
I
could
add
if
we
wanted
to
take
that
sort
of
approach.
Perhaps
we
hire
a
contractor
under
the
city's
guidance
and
assistance
just
like
we
do
for
dredging
or
people
replacing
their
sidewalks
and
driveways
when
we
do
sidewalk
work,
give
them
the
benefit
of
having
this
contractor.
Who
already
knows
our
process
very
well,
they
don't
have
to
go
out,
negotiate
a
price.
We
have
a
unit
rate
and
they
know
exactly
what
they're
going
to
fit.
H
G
I'm
gonna
withdraw
my
nod
and
mm-hmm
we
don't
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
adopt
a
separate
ordinance.
We
we
already
have.
You
know
the
ordinances
that
require
that
you
maintain
the
property
in
that
in
in
accordance
with
cold,
unless
that,
unless
the
code
changed
in
some
fashion
from
the
time
it
was
originally
constructed,
in
which
case
it
would
be
grandfather
to
some
extent.
So,
as
asmar
point,
that's
a
matter
of
enforcement,
we
needed,
we
would
need
to
go
out.
G
City
Council
would
have
to
direct
that
resources
should
be
allocated
to
have
staff
go
out
and
take
measurements,
and
and
if
the
measurements
show
that
the
swell
is
no
longer
being
maintained
with
the
slope
that
it
was
permitted,
we
would
issue
a
notice
of
violation,
give
them
an
opportunity
to
come
in,
and
compliance
maybe
suggest
who
can
do
it
and
bring
them
into
compliance,
and
only
if
they
fail
to
come
into
compliance,
then
the
code
enforcement
board
could
issue
wine
or
otherwise
mandate.
Some
action
here.
F
F
But
replace
the
sod
is
a
short-term
solution.
Really
I
mean
if
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
go
in
there,
we're
going
to
regrade
or
whoever
is
going
to
regrade
and
then
put
the
sod
down
as
the
grading
alone.
Gonna
make
sure
this
doesn't
happen
again.
No
because
that
that
can
still
grow
back
again.
So
then
15
years,
we're
back
in
the
guys
yard
and
word
that's
the
part
where
I
have
the
problem,
but.
C
Here's
here's
the
issue
mark
is
talking
about
that.
The
soil
has
been
neglected
and
it's
gotten
to
the
point
that
you
can't
really
just
detach
it.
You
have
to
pull
the
side
up
and
then
d
thatch
it
if
you
get
get
it
before
the
heck.
I
didn't
have
the
problem
yet
and
I
just
what's
go
see
what
it
took
the
debentures.
D
Going
generator
the
grade
actually
doesn't
change,
it's
the
it's
the
thatch
that
causes
the
issue,
and
when
you
pull
the
sod
up,
then
it
interrupts
the
the
grade.
So
you
have
to
go
back
it's
you
know.
As
we've
talked
about
it,
it's
the
cultural
issue.
So
it's
it's
going
to
be
very
hard
because
people
depend
on
us
now
and
they
they
think
that
it's
a
service
that
we
provide.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
big
departure,
but.
E
D
F
G
I
found
the
discussion
very
interesting
and,
and
maybe
mark
doesn't
have
an
answer
for
this.
If
the
reef
there's
a
requirement
to
maintain
the
slope
that
was
originally
approved,
was
that
slope
with
with
sod
or
slope
with
outside
and
with
the
if
the
slope
is
maintained
because
of
the
thatching
and
the
failure
to
maintain
matching
with
that?
Would
that
actually
constitute
a
failure
to
maintain
the
slope?
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question
when.
H
G
H
F
What
if
we
just
started
a
program
of
a
pilot
program
where
we
notify
we
do
a
notification,
we're
going
to
do
the
assessment,
we
do
the
notification
and
then
we
start
an
education
behind
that,
instead
of
just
you
know,
stamping
them
with
a
hard
core
code
violation.
We
say:
okay,
look
you!
This
is
the
problem.
This
is
the
issue
and
we
do
some
education
and
kind
in
a
more
lenient
fashion,
just
for
the
time
being,
until
we
can
really
figure
out
what
we
want
to
do
well,.
G
G
G
H
F
D
F
E
F
Maybe
we
could
offer
you
know
City
phone
number
on
there.
If
you
would
like
help
on
how
to
rectify
this
problem,
we
have
resources
for
you,
but
if
not
I
mean
maybe
they
have
a
long
guy
and
they
just
call
the
person
up
and
they
take
care
of
it.
I
can
see
some
people
that
don't
even
have
any
idea
that
they
have
a
problem.
Doing
that
so
I,
don't
I
like
that
idea,
Kim.
What.
A
F
F
H
The
aisles
bsiv
sm,
those
problems
are
fifty
percent
the
flora
damn
sot,
that
is
built
up
thatch
level.
We
have
the
folks
that
have
a
pipe.
The
pipe
in
may
be
crushed
a
lot
of
times.
You'll
see
sedimentation
just
around
the
pipes,
and
it
just
requires
a
shovel
or
a
few
scoops
and
a
piece
of
sod
to
be
thrown
back
down.
That's
not
considered
a
thatch
problem,
it's
the
soils
built
up
there.
So
how
do.
B
A
B
F
What
we
could
do
to
is
when
we
give
them
this
notification
letter,
Nancy
I,
don't
know
you
probably
have
more
connections
than
I
do
because
of
all
your
certifications
and
things
is
have
some
kind
of
open
forum
with
the
IFAs
people
have
a
thatch,
you
know.
Have
the
experts
come,
you
know,
explain
to
the
people
why
this
is
happening,
how
it's
happening
and
I
don't
think
that
could
hurt,
get
the
extension
Ralph.
F
F
F
B
B
More
recently,
we
raised
it
again
in
2013
still
without
any
closure.
In
March,
a
group
of
volunteers
from
one
community,
one
message
presented
Council
with
four
options
to
pursue
the
result
of
which
council
asked
for
more
information
as
two
matches:
message:
content
and
specific
target
audiences,
as
well
as
benefits
to
be
received
realized
in
July.
B
The
group
unanimously
concluded
that
it
was
the
responsibility
of
the
city
to
manage
our
story
rather
than
let
external
forces
define
how
we
are
viewed
by
both
current
and
potential
residents.
Businesses
and
visitors,
the
topic
is
also
very
timely
because
we
are
putting
together.
Our
strategic
plan
in
our
budget,
of
which
marketing,
which
we
are
now
going
to
call
strategic
communications
positioning,
is
one
of
the
five
priorities,
so
in
summary,
come
on
up
Dave.
B
K
Well,
thank
you
Howard,
madam
mayor,
and
mayors
of
members
of
council.
Not
mayors
of
counselor
good
afternoon
do
a
little
bit
about
we're
going
to
talk
about
today.
What
do
you
want
to
give
you
a
report
on
the
July,
thirteenth
and
fourteenth
meeting
and
how
that
went?
You
heard
a
lot
of
good
comments
earlier
today,
so
we'll
give
you
the
details
on
that.
K
Do
you
want
to
give
you
a
discussion
on
community
branding
and
what
that
is
and
how
you
might
benefit
from
that,
but
also
give
you
recommended
next
steps,
so
we
got
to
the
meeting
on
the
thirteenth
and
fourteenth
as
Howard
mentioned
there,
25
area
leaders
and
it
really,
as
Bruce,
had
mentioned,
really
from
all
walks
of
the
community.
So
it
was
a
very
diverse
group,
really
an
outgrowth
of
outcome.
You
know
how
do
you
mention
that
earlier
great
work
by
oh,
come
and
I
think
a
very
much
a
next
step
by
processing
content?
K
However,
it
was
very
much
an
internal
look
at
the
city's
position
and
definition
on
day
one.
This
was
our
curriculum.
We
looked
at
really
the
relationships
of
the
various
sectors
and
community
and
how
they
interrelate
with
one
another.
We
talked
about
how
brands
and
messages
are
developed
and
we
discussed
Punta
Gorda,
satra
buttes.
We
considered
who
the
targets
and
audiences
might
be
for
the
messages
for
Punta
Gorda
we
considered
who
might
counter
our
efforts
or
what
might
counter
our
efforts.
We
actually
went
away
with
some
homework
that
evening
we
came
back
the
next
morning.
K
Folks
were
supposed
to
give
us
an
answer
to
attempt
to
answer.
Punta
gorda
is,
and
so
the
members
of
the
group
did
did
that
or
attempted
to
do
that.
But
then
we
entered
into
some
pretty
lively
discussion
on
discussing
the
next
steps
for
the
city
and
what
the
city
might
consider
to
give
you
some
more
detailed.
Some
of
the
questions
than
we
asked
ourselves
during
those
two
days
is
really:
who
are
we?
How
are
we
viewed
by
those
who
might
consider
the
city
who
considers
the
city?
Will
they
continue
to
do
so?
K
And
if
so,
why
do
we
know
how
to
describe
ourselves,
and
should
the
city
actively
try
to
control
its
image?
And
then
we
also
also
reviewed
the
survey
responses.
If
you
remember,
you
actually
were
given
a
surveying
prior
to
that
meeting
and
people
and
our
meeting
also
answered
those
I
thought
it
might
be
interesting
for
you
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
those
responses.
K
K
We
asked
the
question:
how
would
you
describe
Punta
Gorda
as
a
tourist
destination?
We
heard
it
has
potential
peaceful,
relaxing
great
for
friends
and
family
who
are
visitors.
The
attributes
for
tourism
are
the
waterfront
and
water
activities.
Events
Fisherman's
Village,
it's
a
quiet,
friendly,
safe,
affordable
community
old
Florida
charm.
K
What
might
make
it
better
for
tourism
well
to
balance
the
seasonality?
You
know
you
have
a
strong
winter
season.
Summer
and
fault
can
be
kind
of
weak
for
us
from
an
economic
standpoint,
more
shops
and
restaurants
downtown
to
package
to
find
and
promote
the
city
as
a
tourism
destination,
and
then
the
next
question.
How
would
you
describe
Punta
Gorda
as
retirement
or
relocation
destination,
the
destination
people
moving
here,
just
decided
they
want
to
live
here.
K
They
described
it
as
outstanding
ideal,
fabulous
need
to
do
active
and
engaging
safe
and
peaceful
top
attributes
for
your
relocation,
quiet,
safe,
affordable,
clean
the
waterfront
and
outdoor
activities
for
top
attributes.
What
would
make
it
better
for
people
considering
to
move
here
more
activities,
more
pedestrian
and
bicycle
pathways?
Increased
Harbor
access,
better
health
facilities
now
I
understand
that
all
these
are
within
the
purview
of
a
city.
But
these
are
the
responses.
K
How
would
you
describe
Punta
Gorda
as
a
place
to
open
a
business
now
little
schizophrenia?
Here?
You
may
want
to
notice
this
the
first
answer:
we
have
not
the
best
good,
but
not
business
friendly
business
friendly,
but
mostly
for
restaurants
areas.
Demographics
may
limit
potential
business
what
they
meant
there
was.
If
you
look
at
the
age
and
the
incomes
of
the
population,
maybe
only
certain
businesses
could
consider
the
city
safe
infrastructure,
not
strained.
Smart,
common
top
business
attributes,
save
good
transportation
hub,
affordable,
unique,
not
cut
cookie
cutter
good
at
for
tech
infrastructure.
K
Excuse
me,
infrastructure
already.
In
place,
what
could
make
it
better
for
doing
this?
A
business
development
master
plan,
incentives
for
attracting
new
business,
better
skilled
trained
workforce,
a
stronger
retail
center
component,
a
better
public
education
again,
maybe
not
all
within
the
purview
of
the
city.
But
those
were
the
answers.
K
Some
of
the
outcomes
of
the
two-day
meeting
the
group
fills
that
targets
for
any
communication
from
the
city
about
the
city
would
be
potential
residents,
potential
businesses,
potential
visitors,
but
also
the
existing
members
of
those
groups,
so
existing
residents
and
existing
business
as
well
so
reasons
to
consider
Punta
Gorda
really
run
across
the
gamut.
Whether
people
are
deciding
to
come
here
or
to
stay
here.
K
Some
of
the
outcomes
again
from
the
group
for
the
two
days
use
their
big
takeaways
initial
thoughts
on
potential
positioning
David.
There
were
some
potential
thoughts,
my
report
to
you,
but
really
no
consensus.
There
were
some
ideas,
some
very
good
ideas,
but
the
group
was
concerned
about
this
being
an
only
an
internal
look
only
in
turn
opinion.
K
K
Also,
when
you
look
at
issues
like
branding
and
communication,
every
city
is
different.
You
know
a
brand
developed
a
Punta
Gorda.
It
may
not
be
the
brand
developed
for
Orlando
what
your
values
are,
how
you're
growing
what
you
want
to
be,
how
you
want
to
sustain
yourself,
those
all
become
part
of
your
discussion,
but
it
would
be
important
for
Punta
Gorda
to
ensure
its
path
versus
just
growth.
For
growth's
thing,
the
consensus
of
the
group
was
that
the
city
should
move
forward
with
the
formerly
defining
its
brand
and
communication.
K
So
that
was
the
message
to
you
all
now.
What
does
that
take
us,
then?
What
is
community
branding?
What
is
it
how
it
applies
to
cities?
What
are
the
benefits
to
cities
who
consider
this
now?
Let
me
just
define
our
terms
a
little
bit
we're
living
the
branding
age
all
right,
so
sometimes
we
talk
branding
people
think
what
we're
talking
about
a
logo
right.
You
see
a
lot
of
logos.
Their
logo
is
a
great
part
of
expressing
a
brand,
but
that's
not
a
brand.
Sometimes
people
think
well,
it's
tag
lines
right.
K
We
hear
tag
lines
like
just.
Do
it
and
I'm
loving
it
and
thinks
different
again
great
for
expressing
a
brand
summarizing
it,
but
that's
not
a
brand
or
it
could
be
advertising
or
public
relations
or
social
media
was
again
great
ways
to
get
messages
out,
but
those
aren't
a
brand.
Let
me
define
what
a
brand
is.
A
brand
is
what
you
mean
to
a
particular
target
or
audience
and
why
you
should
be
considered.
Okay
for
all
of
you
that
have
run
for
office.
K
You
know
at
one
point
you
had
to
declare
definitively
what
you
are,
what
you
stood
for
and
why
you
were
different,
very
similar
situation.
That's
a
brand
very
much
a
brand
is
so
it's
what
you
mean
to
others,
why
they
should
consider
you
when
we
devise
brands,
there's
three
main
areas.
We
look
at
the
deep
study
of
place.
We
have
to
know
what
the
play
says.
We
have
to
have
the
understanding
of
who
we're
communicating
to
the
target
and
we
have
to
understand
the
alternatives
for
that
that
destination.
K
So
let
me
give
you
an
example:
City
of
Orlando
I
mean.
Does
it
work
for
cities?
Yeah
city,
give
you
examples
of
two
cities
that
have
carefully
crafted
a
brand
city
of
orlando.
Now,
when
you
think
of
the
city,
orlando,
you
probably
think
oh
and
there's
vegas,
those
are
two
different
for
your
different
cities.
Right,
okay,
we
know
that
think
of
Orlando.
You
probably
think
wholesome
family
fun
right
whether
you're
moving
they're
vacationing.
There,
you
think
of
Vegas.
You
probably
think
of
constructing
a
good
alibi,
very
study.
K
K
You
know:
homeowner
ships
down
employments
down,
we've
had
an
emic
growth.
We've
actually
lately
had
threats
to
visitation
here
in
Florida
that
really
affect
all
of
us.
We
heard
about
Zika
this
morning,
but
whoever
thought
we
looking
at
Gator
attacks
at
Disneyworld
green
algae,
terrorist
attacks
in
Orlando.
These
affect
image.
It
affects
everyone
in
the
state,
so
cities
are
aware
of
this
and
they're
looking
at
downturns
and
economy.
They're
looking
at
images
are
issues
of
that
could
affect
their
own
images.
Other
thing
that
cities
are
looking
at
now
too
is
we've.
K
There
was
a
major
shift,
the
group
that
we
call
now
the
Millennials
are
taking
over
so
communities
that
have
grown
or
sustain
the
cells.
Those
from
the
baby
boomer
generation
are
now
going
to
have
to
look
at
something
else
in
the
future,
because
we're
looking
at
a
different
population
set
that
moving
forward
a
different
population
set
that
communicates
differently,
has
different
values
and
has
different
aspirations
of
who
they
are
where
they
want
to
want
to
live.
K
The
other
conversion
factors
are
looking
at
two
is
that
cities
are
other
cities
are
wrapped
like
rapidly
engaging
the
process.
This
is
what
cities
are
doing
to
set
themselves
apart
in
a
sense
competing
with
each
other,
but
a
sense
also
making
sure
that
they
control
their
own
destiny.
Now,
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
point
it
out.
I
pointed
out
to
this
art
group.
When
we
were
talking
over
the
last
two
days.
My
company
has
seen
tremendous
growth
in
this
sort
of
branding
communication
taking
place
over
in
the
east
coast
of
Florida.
K
It
is
virtual
bloodbath.
The
cities
over
there
are
fighting
tooth
and
nail
to
define
who
they
are
defined
themselves
as
distinctively
different.
This
is
gone
come
over
to
the
west
coast.
The
city
of
Dunedin
has
just
done
it.
City
at
Clearwater
has
just
done
at
City.
St.
Petersburg
is
just
done
it,
but
now
you're
facing
it
now
with
the
adjacent
communities.
Okay,
northport
did
it.
A
few
years
ago
you
have
Babcock
Ranch
coming
out
of
the
the
ground.
K
Really,
that's
not
going
to
be
a
bedroom
community
for
you,
that's
going
to
be
whole
town,
they're,
going
to
have
jobs,
to
have
recreation
or
have
everything
right
out
there,
and
if
you
paid
attention
the
news
lately,
Fort
Myers,
they
are
now
currently
in
the
process
of
considering
rebranding.
Okay.
K
B
K
Other
entities
in
your
community
are
defining
your
community
and
this
is
not
a
bad
thing,
but
necessarily
okay,
they're
out
there
they're
doing
their
job
they're
saying
who
and
what
they
are,
but
they're
also
having
to
say
who
and
what
punta
gorda
is
okay.
So
there
you
have
plenty
of
voices
out
there,
but
you're
not
doing
that.
They
are
doing
that.
K
Okay,
so
it's
just
a
matter
of
control
for
you,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
necessarily
a
bad
thing,
but
it's
sort
of
like
you're
driving
down
the
road-
and
you
know
your
hands-
are
off
the
real
right
now.
The
other
thing
that
we
again
want
to
talk
about
is
that
you
know
the
question
is
really
going
to
be
whether
or
not
the
city
is
going
to
want
to
manage
change.
We
know
the
change
is
going
to
occur.
K
K
Alright.
So
what
may
be
needed?
Let's
talk
a
little
bit,
what
what
a
city
would
do,
what
the
steps
we
might
take,
what
may
be
needed
for
Punta
Gorda
to
do
is
to
a
curing
to
find
itself
ease
of
the
alternatives,
determine
how
the
community
should
be
perceived
and
why
the
city
should
be
embraced.
This
involves
devising
an
accurate,
unique
engaging
community
brand
and
they
communicate
it.
Can
it
consistently
and
universally
onward
into
the
future?
K
It
also
involves
the
constituency,
those
in
the
city
that
have
a
stake
in
the
vitality
of
the
city,
in
the
maintenance
of
the
city
and
sustainability,
the
city
to
have
a
voice;
okay,
not
to
nature,
to
say
this
is
what
it
is,
but
they
need
to
have
a
voice
and
they
need
provide
input
and
guidance
to
that.
The
external
involves
studies
that
really
allow
those
devising
the
brand
to
have
a
very
objective
view.
K
Then
we
entered
into
brand
development
from
that
there's
devised
brand
strategy
and
the
develop
potential
communication
experiences
expect
expressions,
but
then
again
those
should
be
tested.
It's
a
great
thing
to
come
up
with
us,
but
it's
better
for
those
that
do
to
get
input
and
research
from
those
who
may
be
making
a
profile
of
those
who
be
making
a
decision
about
the
community
and
see
how
they
react
to
the
new
brand
and
then
again
outcome
review
by
stakeholders,
significant
stakeholders,
then
on
execution.
K
The
fourth
and
final
step,
there'd,
be
creation
of
pilot
messages
and
a
brand
standards
manual.
So
this
is
done,
and
then
you
know
what
it
is.
You
can
pull
it
off
the
shelf
if
we
all
go
down
on
the
same
plane
together
to
the
Caribbean,
someone
can
come
along
say.
This
is
what
point
at
Punta
Gorda
said
this
is
right
here:
it's
not
a
graphic
standards,
so
the
graphic
standards
are
being
there,
but
how
that
how
it
was
derived
what
the
city
stands
for
its
place
in
the
world.
Also,
a
brand
planned
for
application
use.
K
Okay!
Now
we
got
it.
How
are
we
going
to
apply
it?
What
are
we
going
to
do
with
it
and
also
the
development
of
how
do
we
develop
community
brand
culture?
In
other
words,
how
do
we
get
everyone
within
the
city
to
embrace
it
to
understand
it,
to
reflect
it,
to
disseminate
it
and
also
really
important
the
external
marketing
communications
plan
development
has
to
come
out
of
this
as
well,
so
you've
got
a
brand.
What
are
you
going
to
do
with
it?
K
How'd
you
going
to
communicate
it
written
down
and
understood
now
with
some
of
the
anticipated
outcomes
of
a
process
like
this.
Any
city
decides
to
do
this.
Well,
you
should
have
a
distinct
brand
and
a
plan
for
your
communication.
You
should
have
a
community-wide
understanding
embraces
the
city's
meaning
and
the
brand.
You
should
have
community
engagement
in
implementing
the
brand
and
the
brand
communication,
and
you
should
have
a
clear
definition
of
the
city
to
the
outside
world.
K
K
Let
me
explain
that,
because
someone
asked
me
about
that
this
morning,
if
how
is
it
more
efficient,
you
set
out
to
do
anything
on
part
of
a
community
I,
don't
care
if
it's,
whether
what
you're
going
to
paint
your
trucks
or
the
new
Pro
sure
it's
going
to
come
out
or
the
mayor's
got
to
go
talk
at
a
foreign
city.
You've
got
half
your
work
done.
No
one
has
to
sit
back
and
say
what
do
we
say?
What
do
we
do?
Who
are
we?
Where
are
we
going?
K
What's
the
path
it's
already
defined,
so
it's
a
tremendous
amount
of
efficiency
and
reduction
of
long-term
costs
over
time,
assuring
better
selection
by
those
considering
the
city.
Okay,
if
we
have
people
on
the
outside
whether
it's
to
bring
a
business
here
or
to
move
here,
we
have
a
better
assurance
that
we're
going
to
be
the
choice
and
the
city
actively
managing
change
in
choosing
its
own
direction.
K
Big
part,
it's
big
reason
why
cities
do
this
as
opposed
to
allowing
others
or
external
forces
or
just
inertia,
to
control
the
city's
destiny,
and
let
me
just
make
a
couple
final
clue
conclusions.
You
know
I,
think
those
of
us
from
the
outside
of
Punta
Gorda
real,
believe
that
punta
gorda
is
model
of
resiliency.
You
know,
since
2004
Hurricane
Charley
this
communities
come
together.
They've
made
a
direction
they
haven't
just
sat
down.
They,
the
city,
has
taken
a
real,
proactive
stance
of
moving
forward.
K
So
this
isn't
a
city,
that's
just
sit
still
and
just
accepts
faith
there.
The
thing
that
this
may
be
the
next
step,
I
think
as
the
city
looks
at
moving
forward
since
2004.
This
may
be
a
very
important
next
step
for
the
city
to
continue
to
define
itself
and
to
control
its
fate
in
controlling
its
image.
In
his
communication
now,
I
was
asked
to
supply
talking
points,
so
I
can
leave
these
up
here
or
wherever
you
I'd
like
to
have
this,
but
there's
any
questions
about
what
we
said.
F
K
And
community
branding
it
would
be
other
places
or
other
communities.
It
could
be
any
alternative,
though,
when
we
look
at
the
people
that
we
might
be
talking
to
you're
communicating
with
whether
its
potential
residents
of
her
potential
businesses,
it
could
be,
the
alternative
could
be
another
community
or
it
could
be
some
other
alternative.
You
know
they
have
to
make
a
decision
to
go
or
not
to
go
decision
not
to
go,
could
be
made
by
any
number
of
reasons
it
may
be.
K
F
I
I
definitely
think
this
is
the
next
step,
because,
just
from
my
time
up
here
six
years,
you
know
I've
been
involved
in
a
lot
of
different
things
and
it
does
get
frustrating
sometimes
like
when
we
did
125th
anniversary
for
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
like
we
needed
a
logo,
I
mean
we
needed
something
to
say.
This
is
what
this
is,
and
this
is
what
we're
doing
so.
Luckily,
we
had
volunteers
that
helped
us
take
the
Hibiscus
logo
and
put
the
125
125th
banner,
and
we
you
know
it
worked,
but
did
we
struggle?
F
Yes,
where
we
kind
of
frustrated?
Yes,
I
mean
to
know
that
if
we
go
down
this
road
and
then
it's
we
have
a
road
in
front
of
us.
I
think
it'll
just
make
things
in
that
instance
easier.
You
know
we're
coming
up
on
130
years
now.
Are
we
gonna
do
something
for
that
thesis
ain't?
No!
No!
But
we
have
so
much
history.
F
That
I
feel,
like
that's
all
tied
into
this
as
well,
that
that
needs
to
be
a
part
of
it
and
trip
and
woven
into
it
so
that,
when
we're
gone,
you
know
the
city
still
has
that
direction.
So
I
think
that
can
in
a
lot
of
that
that
you
went
through
the
you
know,
community
behind
you,
we
already
have
that
those
pieces.
So
I
really
like
this
idea.
Kemp
I,
think.
A
This
is
one
hundred
percent
where
we
need
to
go
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you,
donna,
you
kind
of
pulled
it
all
together.
We've
been
working
on
this,
a
lot
of
us
for
four
years
now,
and
you
being
here,
has
really
you
know,
along
with
laura
and
dave,
really
brought
it
together.
Thank
you
for
all
of
that.
Yes,.
A
I
think
another
important
thing
just
from
sitting
here
sitting
up
here
and
listening
over
the
last
four
years
to
different
people.
Oh,
we
want
to
make
this
a
park
and
we
want
to
do
this
and
we
don't
want
taller
buildings.
We
want
lower
buildings,
those
are
all
part
of
our
branding
and
who
we
are
and
I
think
this.
Will
it's
not
just
sending
out
a
message,
a
marketing
message?
D
Yeah
I
think
this
is
having
participated
in
this.
The
oak
on
from
the
very
beginning,
I
think
it's
taken
it
Oh,
calm
to
a
whole
new
level
and
I
think
patty
said
it.
I
feel
like
it's
really
a
rebirth,
20
calm
that
involves
many
more
constituents
and
I.
Think
it's
excellent
and
it's
it's
just
feels
right
and
I
think
it's
the
perfect
next
step:
Thank
You,
Donna
and
Dave
and
Laura
and
whole
team
I.
C
Think
all
the
positive
things
that
we're
talking
about
here
are
our
right
on
and
on
the
money,
but
I
also
think
it's
just
as
important,
and
it's
a
it's
a
message
that
I'm
reading
in
this.
This
is
also
it's
a
way
for
us
to
make
sure
we
don't
become.
We
don't
want
to
become,
and
that's
just
as
important
is
what
we
want
to
portray
out
there,
and
so
it
to
me
I
think
it's
spot-on
and
again
thank
you,
donna
and
fun
working
with
you,
the
little
bit
that
I
happen,
we're
very
fortunate.
E
D
A
D
B
J
B
B
F
B
D
I
F
B
E
B
B
I
F
There
are
great
opportunities
out
there
for
you
to
apply
for
some
of
our
boards
and
committees,
and
that
would
be
the
time
and
we
have
no
nominations
or
appointments
policy
and
legislation.
I
will
just
give
a
brief
update
of
the
Florida
League
of
Cities
conference.
It
was
a
little
different
than
most
years.
The
hotel
was
under
a
complete
renovation,
meaning
that
there
was
no
lobby
and
it's
the
Hollywood
diplomat
hotel,
which
was
a
western
property
which
was
gorgeous
and
very
modern.
So
what
its
gonna
be
like
now,
I
have
no
idea.
F
The
new
one
was
all
real,
modern
and
real
cool,
but
it
was.
It
was
challenging
with
the
hotel
under
that
dramatic
of
a
renovation,
so
we
did
survive
and
I
was
I
was
on
the
nominating
committee,
so
I
supported
mr.
leo
Longworth
from
the
city
of
our
tow
for
the
second
vice
president
and
he
won
the
election
so
he's
now.
The
second
vice
president
of
Florida
Liga
cities
he's
been
a
city
commissioner,
in
bartow
for
20
years.
F
Yes,
yep
and
the
small
world
is
my
sister
lives
in
polk
county
and
she's,
an
accountant
and
she's
their
accountant
up
there
in
bartow.
So
that
was
pretty
neat.
The
best
speaker
was
Buddy
Dyer
when
he
spoke.
He
spoke
about
the
experiences
in
Orlando
following
the
tragedy
there,
and
it
was
very.
It
was
a
very
nice,
very
good
speeches.
F
F
D
As
far
as
the
League
of
Cities
I
thought,
it
was
a
different
conference
because
it
didn't
seem
to
have
a
strong
theme,
like
other
ones
have
had
in
the
past.
It
was
kind
of
a
kind
of
like
a
miscellaneous
and
conference,
but
yeah
the
hotel
was
that
was
a
real
distraction
and
hopefully,
in
two
years
that'll
be
fixed
and
they
say
November
I'm,
like
yeah.
They
said
that
actually,
in
a
few
weeks
it
was
quite.
D
The
lobby
would
be
opening
and
they're
going
to
be
for
new
restaurants,
two
of
which
are
going
to
be
run
by
that
the
guy
on
the
food
channel.
That
is,
the
emcee
for
the
show
chopped
grey
haired
guy
with
the
black
glasses
he's
going
to
have
two
restaurants
there.
So,
but
in
them-
and
it
was
just-
it
was
really
strange-
but
anyway
glad
to
be
back
from
our
break
and
onward
and
forward
yeah.
C
Why
you
guys
are
all
out
having
a
good
time
in
partying
I
was
I
attended
a
meeting
here
for
Shanet,
where
we
were
finished,
the
interviewing
process
for
Lisa's
replacement.
We
came
up
with
three
very
strong
candidates
out
of
the
pair
debt
down
from
six
to
three
ranked
them
and
John
is
in
the
process
of
negotiating
in
that
order
and
I
think
shortly.
We'll
have
a
very
strong
who
has
a
very
high
bar
to
go
because
lisa
has
done
an
outstanding
job,
but
she's
decided
to
on
and
so
we're.
A
A
F
G
J
Half
that
amount.
This
has
been
going
on
for
years.
Our
sea
wall
fee
was
two
hundred
fifty
dollars
for
many
years
and
then
jumped
it's
going
to
continue
to
jump.
The
costs
are
going
to
continue
to
increase.
As
this
increases,
the
inequity
between
what
is
being
up
paid
per
foot
will
continue
to
grow.
The
gap
will
grow
it's
in
the
best
interest
of
not
only
property
owners,
but
also
the
city
to
correct
this
flawed
methodology.
J
Now
maintenance
fees
will
be
assessed
per
foot
of
sea
wall
very
simple,
easily
calculated
the
property
appraiser's
office.
Has
all
this
data
number
of
feet
of
sea
wall
/
lot
already
in
the
database?
It
would
be
a
one-time
job
to
make
these
calculations
for
the
rest
of
eternity.
Those
sea
wall
lengths
are
going
to
be
the
same
/
lot.
So
it'd
only
be
a
one
time:
investment
of
time
and
resources
to
make
the
change.
J
It's
even
more
offensive
that
this
ends
up
being
those
with
less
pay
more
than
those
with
more
and
finally
in
terms
of,
and
thank
you
for
this
time
in
terms
of
what
was
just
said
about
branding
Punta
Gorda,
its
waterfront
is
a
huge
part
of
it.
Affordability
came
up
repeatedly,
people
that
can
afford
smaller
waterfront
footage.
J
Don't
need
to
be
paying
twice
as
much
as
a
neighboring
person,
with
more
footage,
basically
they're
going
to
be
driven
out
of
PGI
and
it
as
again,
something
that
makes
us
problem
even
worse
is
that
each
time
fees
are
raised,
this
gap
is
increased.
Thank
you.
So,
please
help
me
know
what
needs
to
happen
next.
I
hope
that
a
class-action
lawsuit
is
not
needed
to
for
you
all
to
a
correct
this
problem.
Thank
you.
Anybody.