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From YouTube: Punta Gorda City Council 9 17 14 Part 2
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B
Is
everybody
okay
or
you
take
a
little
yeah,
we'll
take
a
five-minute
break
say
and
we
remove
we're
moving
into
regular
agenda
items.
The
first
would
be
citizens
comments
on
regular
agenda
items,
only
budget,
unfinished
business,
new
business
recommendations
from
city
officers.
If
you
have
any
comments
on
those
items,
please
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name.
You
have
three
minutes.
I
I
B
J
Morning,
Sharon
knippenberg
controller
for
the
city
we're
presenting
to
you
this
morning
the
Charlotte
Harbor
National
estuary
program,
inclusion
in
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
budget.
We've
worked
with
dr.
beavers
to
put
together
their
adopted
financial
plan
that
has
been
taken
through
all
of
their
advisory
boards
and
their
policy
makers,
and
it
is
available
for
you
to
review
I
believe
it's
a
rather
lengthy,
interesting
document.
It's
on
the
on
their
website.
J
But
this
is
it
in
a
nutshell:
it's
showing
the
major
EPA
grants
that
they
will
be
receiving
a
swift
mud,
grant,
Department,
DEP,
grant
and
then
local
contributions
and,
of
course,
city
of
Punta
Gorda
has
always
been
a
contributor
to
the
SNAP
program.
The
expenditures
are
rolled
up
into
their
staff
expenditures,
as
well
as
their
operating
now.
J
B
H
J
The
host
agency,
the
we
are
now
considered,
actually
the
oversight
for
snip
and
so
that
there,
for
the
state
of
Florida
requires
you
to
include
it
in
your
budget,
included
in
your
audit
included
in
your
financial
statements
and
therefore,
as
part
of
the
oversight.
Excuse
me
as
part
of
the
public
hearing
process
you,
you
actually
do
vote
on
it
and
you
and
we
understand
that
what
you're
really
voting
on
is
that
this
does
reflect
what
their
policy
boards
have
already
approved.
J
C
It
I
mean
it's:
we
have
to
include
their
head
count
in
our
account
numbers
as
if
you
look
at
the
budget
document
the
budget
book.
Yes,
they
either
binder
either
with
me
that
information.
When
you
look
at
headcount
personnel,
it's
in
there-
yes,
so
it's
because
we
are
the
host
organization
that
we
now
have
to
show
it.
What
the
Regional
Planning
Council
has
been
showing
exactly
many
years.
Okay,.
B
J
Agenda
item
is
to
introduce
to
the
citizens
and
I,
know
councils
already
aware
that
we
took
all
of
this
information
to
the
utility
advisory
board
on
August
25th.
Prior
to
that,
the
original
document
that
you
find
in
in
the
budget
book
did
not
include
the
anticipation
of
what
we
would
be
doing
to
overcome
the
shortfall
by
adding
the
22
million
dollar
financing.
J
I
do
want
to
point
out
to
you
that
the
2015
budget
was
modified
slightly
based
on
three
additional
capital
improvement
projects
that
were
modified
and
if
you
have
questions
about
those
Steve
Adams
utilities
engineer
is
here
this
morning,
but
basically
it
was
the
raw
water
program.
We
found
that
we
could
not
leave
it
out
in
2016.
It
needed
to
be
moved
forward
to
2015
that
it
is
in
a
state
of
needing
to
be
addressed
immediately
and
the
cost
of
the
project
based
on
the
study
that
had
been
done
so
far
did
increase.
J
The
other
thing
that
the
director
had
recommended
and
the
city
manager
and
utility
advisory
board
thought
prudent,
was
to
move
the
update
to
the
water
and
wastewater
master
plan
into
2015.
It
was
originally
slated
for
2016
it's
a
program
that
we
do
every
five
years,
the
other.
The
final
change
was
a
small
adjustment
to
the
cost
of
the
phase
of
the
RO
projects.
We
had
two
million.
J
Now
we
have
2.3
million,
that's
necessary
in
2015,
so
those
things
adjusted
the
need
for
financing
in
2050
Kristen
if
we
could
just
move
to
the
next
slide,
so
this
side
you're
fairly
familiar
with
the
next
one.
This
is
what
was
discussed
with
utility
advisory
board
and
although
we
are
not
looking
at
the
actual
rate
increases
today
that
will
be
discussed
over
the
winter.
We
do
know
there
is
a
need
for
one
to
deal
with
the
22
million
dollar
financing
project.
So
what
we
put
before
them
were
two
alternative
ways
to
look
at
it.
J
J
So
that
was
one
the
next
scenario
and
it
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
one
time
one
just
on
this
one,
just
so
that
you're
aware
that,
in
as
an
alternative
to
do
a
three
year
smoothing,
we
could
do
at
one
time
whether
that
one
time
would
be
in
16
or
17
again
as
a
decision
for
City
Council.
We
showed
it
in
17
and
it
would
have
been
a
one-time
rate
increase
of
ten
percent.
J
The
discussion
now
is
whether
we
go
forward
with
the
project,
regardless
of
at
what
timing
we
may
get
a
grant
from
swift
mine,
so
we
showed
the
scenario
without
the
Swift
mud
grant
of
the
1.5
million
and
swapping
that
for
financing.
So
in
2016
you
see
the
financing
going
from
2.1
to
3.6.
It
adds
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
of
debt
service
annually
and
therefore
to
keep
things
status
quo.
J
With
the
previous
scenario,
we
show
the
rate
increase
of
being
three
point:
six
five
percent
instead
of
three
point:
two
five,
so
it's
a
minor
adjustment
to
the
rate
increase
to
deal
with
going
forward
with
this
project
that
the
final
scenario
would
be
without
the
grant
and
without
changing
the
original
smooth
rate,
but
using
reserves.
This
would
dip
your
reserves
down
precariously
low
to
the
current
standard
of
the
eight
percent
Howard.
A
We
will
continue
to
negotiate
with
the
Water
Authority
in
Swift
mud
and
the
county
over
an
agreement
for
a
pipeline
and
role
playing
we're
not
going
to
stop
negotiating,
but
as
a
staff
we
think
we're
wasting
time.
We
have
made
a
commitment
as
a
community
that
we're
going
to
do
the
project,
so,
let's
get
on
with
it.
A
B
The
project
its
project
itself
permissible,
so
we're
going
to
conventional
financing
for
that
project
with
the
state
revolving
fund
loan
of
22
million.
What
is
what
is
the
policy?
What
is
their
recommendation?
What
is
there
like
for
a
reserve
level?
Do
they
specify
what?
What
are
we
constrained
to
with
that?
Generally.
J
J
B
A
J
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J
C
That
what
we
need
yes,
I
would
like
to
discuss.
It
I
think
we
should
move
forward,
but
I
think
we
should.
We
need
to
move
forward
in
in
that
not
to
do
appear
as
being
defiant
swiftly,
but
that
we
are
moving
forward
because
of
the
timing
and
that
they
already
have
it
in
their
budget.
So
we
are
moving
forward
in
a
positive
way
in
position
in
a
positive
way.
I.
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B
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B
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B
A
second
didn't:
we
already
have
a
second
yeah
Kim.
Second,
all
in
favor
aye
opposed
carried
unanimously.
Ok,
so
we're
moving
forward
with
the
well
field
testing.
Now
we
need
to
talk
about
what
the
pleasure
of
the
board
is
as
far
as
this
rate
increase,
not
the
numbers,
the
implementation
of
it.
Do
we
want
to
do
it
over
three
years?
Do
we
want
to
do
it?
One
time
Nancy
I
had.
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L
L
B
We
have
a
motion,
a
second
to
implement
a
smoothing
rate
increase
over
time
based
on
the
project
when
it
comes
when
that
decision.
Time
comes
all
in
favor.
All
right
opposed,
carried
unanimously,
ok
and
now.
Howard
wanted
some
input
on
reserve
levels
because
you've
seen
the
scenarios-
and
we
know
when
we
get
into
the
state
revolving
fund-
will
need
at
least
one.
H
E
Would
like
to
recommend
that
we
maintain
the
reserves
at
three
point
or
the
rate
increase
rather
at
3.25
at
this
point
in
time,
and
not
worry
significantly
about
the
reserves,
I'm
very
hopeful
and
anticipate
that
we're
going
to
get
the
additional
funding
from
Swift
mud
and
from
the
state,
and
at
this
point
in
time,
I
do
not
see
any
reason
for
us
to
look
at
a
higher
rate
increase.
We
should
keep
it
our
rate
increases
as
low
as
possible
for
our
water
users.
B
D
B
I
think
to
there's
you
know
this.
Last
year
there
was
less
legislation
that
did
not
pass
that
would
have
affect
our
utility
rates
as
far
as
the
25-percent
search
hearts,
that
we
can
charge
utility
customers
out
of
our
out
of
our
city
limits
and
that's
under
attack
and
the
statewide
and
the
legislation.
So
we
need
to
be
vigilant
about
that.
B
D
C
Yeah
I
would
like
to
see
us
keep
the
reserve
at
the
higher
level.
I
I
do
agree
that
we
will,
as
we
pursue
additional
funding,
that
it's
my
expectation
that
we
will
not
have
to
see
as
high
of
rate
increases
as
as
this
reflects.
But
this
is
more
of
a
worst-case
scenario,
we'd
like
to
think
of
it.
As
worst
case
yeah.
J
C
C
H
B
J
Final
clarification
for
you
on
where
we're
going
with
with
this
project
is
over
the
winter.
As
we
get
more
information,
we
will
provide
you
with
this
many
scenarios,
as
you
would
like,
and
what
potential
rate
increases
would
be.
The
utility
advisory
board
has
agreed
that,
within
that
hundred
thousand
of
funding
that
they
will
be
doing
for
the
water
and
wastewater
plan
that
we
will
also
look
at
a
separate
study
to
do
a
rates,
efficiency
study
and.
J
Would
like
to
take
now
now
that
we're
doing
new
financing
for
not
only
the
water
plant,
but
the
big
portion
of
the
6.7
million
that
we're
doing
combined
between
1450
is
waste
water.
So
we
would
like
the
the
consultants
that
we
hire
to
look
at
our
impact
fees
and
look
at
the
current
new
financing
that
we're
doing
and
do
so.
This
is
not
just
a
water
rate.
Sufficiency
study,
its
wastewater
as
well,
because
I
know
quite
a
few
people
have
asked.
J
Well,
is
this
rate
increase
overall,
or
is
it
just
water
and
right
now
the
percentage
is
I'm,
giving
you
our
overall,
but
if
we
delve
into
looking
at
each
on
their
own
merit,
it
will
be
interesting
to
see
how
it
plays
out.
But
it's
important
that
we
do
that,
because
this
will
be
15
to
20
year.
Financing,
I.
J
Useful,
yes,
so
that
will
happen
over
the
course
of
the
winter.
It
is
our
goal
that
when
you
get
to
the
end
of
the
2016
preliminary
budget
process
in
May
or
June
that
we
we
will
know
what
rate
you
will
have
had
enough
hearings,
the
people
will
have
been
able
to
talk
about
it,
and
so
that,
then
that
can
be
announced
and
then
the
ordinances
would
be
put
in
place
in
October.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
appreciate
your
time.
This
one.
A
N
Morning,
mark
garing
public
works.
We
had
hoped
to
bring
to
you
this
morning,
project
for
award
for
holiday
lighting
in
the
downtown
area,
and
we
weren't
successful
on.
In
my
opinion,
it's
obtaining
a
bid
that
reflected
what
the
council
had
directed
us
to
go
out
and
do
we
were
given
45
thousand
dollars
annual
budget
and
asked
to
put
up
decorations
on
poles
and
trees
in
the
downtown
area,
56
poles
in
36
trees
on
Olympia
and
Marion.
We
put
the
project
out
for
bid.
N
We
clarified
the
bit
because
we're
getting
no
bidders
extended
the
bid
period
and
still
got
very
little
response,
we're
finding
that
most
of
the
people
that
sell
these
Christmas
decorations.
They
do
install
them,
but
they
want
much
bigger
projects
before
they
get
interested
in
and
get
aggressive
in
their
bidding.
We
have.
N
N
And
we
can
purchase
these
types
of
decorations,
stay
well
within
our
budget
rope
lighting
for
the
poles
and
do
it
ourselves
we're
looking
at
about
six
hundred
dollars
a
year
for
someone
to
come
out
and
wrap
a
tree
with
light
string
and
the
costs
for
installing
one
of
these
decorations
and
allowing
us
to
use
it
for
one
year
is
the
same
as
us
purchasing
it
forever
for
ourselves.
So
that's
what
we'd
like
to
do
at
this
point
we're
finding
that
it.
N
It
would
be
very
difficult
to
find
one
of
the
decorations
that
they
can
deliver
to
us
now
in
time
for
this
year
season.
It
took
us
so
much
time
to
go
through
the
bid
process.
That
I
think
we've
passed
our
deadline
to
order
new
decorations
and
we'll
take
input
from
you
or
answer
any
questions
and
hopefully
get
some
Direction
is
where
we
should
go
with
this.
So.
N
B
Obviously,
yeah
we
not
a
big
enough
project
for
them
to
even
look
at
but
I
like
the
idea
of
mixing
in
Matt.
You
know
mixing
it
up
a
little
bit
and
have
different
because
right
now
we
have
the
white
the
white
star
and
where
you
have
led-
and
we
have
traditional
and
I-
don't
really
like
that.
Look
but
I
like
a
variety
like
the
wreath,
something
more
colorful,
I.
Think
then
what
then,
what
we
have,
because
we
are
going
to
have
the
white
lights
all
year
all
year,
but.
C
H
H
C
N
C
Another
question
I
have
is
I
know
that
that
some
of
you've
been
working
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
on
a
project,
elimination,
I,
don't
know
a
lot
about
it,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
gotten
much
traction
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
something
like
this,
where
we
could
do
a
sample
some
place
to
show
what
it's
going
to
look
like
that.
Maybe
it
might
help
generate
more
community
interest
and.
K
Merry
and
paste
procurement
manager
I
tried
that
with
my
nationwide
colleagues,
and
they
said
only
you
would
bid
out
Christmas,
so
I
have
tried
to
see
if
it
as
far
as
like
the
services
and
stuff,
you
can't
really
piggyback
that
and
I've
checked
to
see.
If
any
other
agencies
had
holiday,
decoration
bids
that
we
could
piggyback
or
if
there
any
national
cooperative
contracts
we
could
piggyback
and
unfortunately
the
answer
is
no,
so
we're
going
to
be
left
forbidding
the
decorations
ourselves.
B
F
C
H
D
G
E
K
B
D
K
D
O
K
N
O
Christmas
lights,
etc.
That's
another
big
one
I
use,
and
they
have
exactly
the
same.
So
you
may
want
to
check
that
out.
It
would
be
wonderful
if
we
could
get
this
accomplished
this
year.
Understand
if
you
can't,
but
it
certainly
would
be
wonderful
if
we
could
get
this
done
this
year,
Thank
you
Thank,
You,.
B
N
A
B
A
Have
met
with
the
mural
society,
our
facilities
manager
has
got
a
quote
on
how
to
repair
the
wall
so
that
it
will
be.
We
can
have
the
mural
we
painted
and
it
won't
be
damaged.
Staffs
recommendation
is
that
the
city
out
of
council
contingency
take
the
dollars
needed
to
repair
the
wall.
It
is
a
city
wall
and
then
that
urge
the
mural
society
to
raise
the
necessary
funds
to
repaint
the
mirror.
So.
G
C
E
B
C
A
problem
that
I
would
like
to
discuss
the
mural
itself,
you
know
it's,
the
girl
society
goes
out
and
raises
the
funds
to
do
all
of
these,
and
it's
because
our
wall
deteriorated
that
the
mural
is
damaged.
It's
not
because
of
any
paint
didn't
work
or
they
didn't
put.
The
proper
seal
went
on
it
or
whatever
and
I
feel
that
we
are
the
who
have
caused
the
problem
with
the
mural
and
I
feel
a
responsibility
in
at
least
absorbing
at
least
some
of
the
cost
of
replacing
or
repairing
the
mural,
if
not
all,
of
it.
C
D
B
A
But,
rather
than
get
into
that,
whether
they
were
warned
or
not,
and
who
said
what
to
whom
we
do
think
as
a
staff,
that
we
should
at
least
fix
the
wall
and
keep
the
process
where
the
mural
society
raises
the
necessary
funds.
The
only
time
we
as
a
council
dip
change
was
actually,
it
was
a
CRA
decision
to
pay
for
a
mural
at
the
marina
building.
A
E
I
L
E
D
B
M
B
M
M
C
J
E
A
B
P
Morning
for
the
record
Joan
the
boat
urban
design
Karen,
would
you
put
on
me
powerpoint
a
little
background
on
this
comprehensive
plan
element
over
the
past
three
years.
The
city
has
worked
with
citizens
and
into
developing
what
you
see
before
you.
The
urban
design
group
has
sought
out
individual
groups.
We've
talked
to
agencies,
organizations
that
were
involved
with
and
had
a
passion
for
historic
preservation.
Many
of
the
individuals
have
stepped
up
from
the
community
to
fulfill
the
need
to
write
the
history
of
Punta
Gorda.
P
We've
looked
at,
we've
talked
with
the
historical
preservation
advisory
board,
the
Punta
Gorda
Historical
Society
Charlotte
County
Historical
Society,
and
we
worked
with
educational
organizations
such
as
FGCU.
We
were
introduced
to
an
adjunct
professor
through
Bucky
McQueen
at
the
FGCU,
and
her
name
was
Lori
Coventry
pain
and
she
is
the
predominant
author
of
this
element.
She
had
agreed
to
work
with
us
on
the
project
thinking
it
would
be
a
year
and
it
took
a
lot
longer
than
that.
P
She
didn't
realize
the
time
involved
in
meeting
with
people
and
going
to
different
groups
and
settings
and
then
the
feedback
that
she
got.
So
the
element
has
undergone
several
changes.
It's
been
vetted
through
the
community.
We
still
are
looking
for
input
on
it.
This
is
why
it's
only
bringing
brought
to
you
as
a
draft
today.
She,
it
does
continue
to
work
on
the
project
with
us,
and
she
does
believe
that
this
element
will
bring
good
things
to
the
city.
So
with
that
go
on
and
as
you
know,
the
comp
plan
is
a
required
document.
P
It
is
required
by
the
nineteen
eighty
five
men
growth
management
act
and
we
brought
the
historic
element
into
it.
We
heard
from
people
in
the
community
that,
with
all
the
stuff
we
do
for
our
historic
downtown
area,
we
really
need
to
have
an
element
that
gives
us
guidelines
and
policies
to
look
at
as
we
move
forward
in
protecting
our
history
and
preserving
it
connecting
it
to
different
eight
groups
in
the
area,
the
different
communities,
the
residential,
the
commercial,
the
business
is
etc.
P
Was
an
optional
element,
so
not
everybody
did
include
it.
I
found
more
cities
had
it,
but
there
is
a
fair
amount
of
communities
of
counties
that
also
included
and
I
think
it
helps
if
they're
very
active
in
preserving
the
history,
because
you
can
get
additional
points.
If
you
have
policy
set
up
that,
you
know,
encourage
this
type
of
protection
or
utilization
of
these
areas.
P
We
are,
this
element,
does
connect
several
of
the
existing
elements,
the
future
land-use
element,
because
we
have
the
historical
areas
already
identified
in
that
element,
our
recreation
and
open
space
element
does
have
mention
of
historic
resources
and
we
wanted
to
connect
those
through
our
linear
park
system.
The
punta
gorda
pathways
is
a
great
you
know
additive
to
that,
and
we
now
have
people
coming
through
areas
that
they
might
not
normally
have
come
through
on
their
daily
walks
and
in
the
housing
element
has
policies
that
exist
that
promote
the
protection
of
these
historic
resources.
P
Again,
we
just
want
to
preserve
our
past.
If
we
don't
write
it
down,
we
will
lose
it.
The
buildings
that
we
have.
If
you
look
at
our
downtown,
we
have
the
Sullivan
Street,
we
have
the
historic
district.
All
of
those
full
older
buildings
makes
punta
gorda
what
it
is
today.
We
want
to
help
stimulate
the
economy
as
we
move
forward
and
anything
we
can
do
to
attract
tourists
and
visitors
to
our
area
is
definitely
a
plus
for
all
the
small
businesses
and
residents,
and
it
definitely
improves
our
quality
of
life.
P
C
I
think
that
it's
a
outstanding
I
think
it's
much
needed.
They
I
know
the
historic
preservation.
Our
board
is
wanting
to
have
more,
that
they
can
get
involved
in
and
do
and
preserving
the
assort
character
of
our
community
is
so
critically
important
fear
so
that
we
can
do
our
like
other
communities,
so
I
think
it's
not
just
about
preserving
the
buildings
themselves.
C
E
F
G
Yep,
I
actually
just
like
to
point
out
a
script:
nazara
I
age,
11,
there's
26,
there's
a
sentence
that
says
by
the
1980s
with
groped
spreading
throughout
the
county.
The
charlotte
county
government
relocates
his
administration.
I
think
it's
supposed
to
be
its
administration
center
out
of
the
traditional
home
in
downtown
punta
gorda,
so
you
may
want
to
check
that
I.
G
While
we're
on
that
tonic,
water
is
the
county
seat
and
we
have
one
time
did
have
the
administration
center
in
in
the
city,
and
it
was
pulled
out
in
the
80s
I'm
wondering
what
requirements,
if
any,
are
there
for
a
city
or
a
county
seat
to
have
administrative
functions.
I
believe
that
we
have
the
Justice,
Center
I,
believe
that
that
is
requirement.
Or
is
it
not
a
requirement,
or
it's
all
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
county?
That.
H
E
Carolyn
well,
I
just
think
it's
an
excellent
document
and
please
extend
our
appreciation
again
to
Lori
Coventry
pain
for
her
efforts
on
this
I
assume.
You
have
a
lot
of
lot
to
do
with
it
as
well,
but
I
thought
it
was
an
excellent
document
and
pleased
that
it's
now
being
incorporated
into
our
comprehensive
plan.
Well.