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From YouTube: Regular City Council Meeting 4-6-2022
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Regular City Council Meeting 4-6-2022
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B
C
B
Please
silence
all
mobile
devices
before
we
begin
our
meetings
are
recorded,
so
it's
very
distracting
in
the
in
the
tape.
Thank
you
good
morning,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
april
6,
2022
city,
council
and
cra
council
meeting.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
all
city,
council,
members
and
city
officials
are
present
in
or
in
the
building.
If
you
would,
please
stand
and
join
me
for
the
invocation
followed
by
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
E
E
E
D
B
Thank
you,
carlo,
while
all
of
our
police
and
fire
are
still
in
the
room.
I
would
like
to
say
my
personal
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
what
happened
last
week
for
your
honor
valor
dedication,
and
that
fire
certainly
could
have
been
a
whole
lot
worse
and
we
would
have
had
a
much
different
outcome
had
it
not
been
for
the
efforts
of
our
police
department,
our
fire
department
and
the
charlotte
county
sheriff's
office,
as
well
as
the
charlotte
county,
fire
and
ems.
So
thank
you
to
everyone
for
no
injuries,
no
fatalities.
B
I
had
the
opportunity
to
go
over
to
emerald
point
saturday
and
met
with
several
of
the
board
members
and
in
fact,
the
city
staff
and-
and
I
will
be
having
a
meeting
with
several
of
them
tomorrow
and
it's
it's
really
unfortunate.
People
lost
their
homes
but,
as
I
say,
it
just
could
have
been
a
whole
lot
worse.
So
we're
very
grateful
to
such
a
wonderful
team
of
people
who
banded
together
and
never
even
batted
an
eyelash
they
jumped
in
and
saved
what
they
could
save
and-
and
we're
very
very
glad
about
that.
B
So
thank
you.
Under
general
announcements,
I
will
be
reading
some
housekeeping
notes,
but
I
have
one
minor
agenda
edition
with
all
of
your
approval.
We
have
a
last-minute
thing
that
I've
been
asked
to
add,
which
is
a
certificate
we're
going
to
be
awarding
to
a
a
city
staff
member
and,
if
everybody's
okay,
with
that
we'll
do
that
under
the
proclamations.
B
Okay,
great,
thank
you!
Okay!
So
before
we
begin
the
next
segment,
we'll
talk
about
some
procedures
for
public
comments
when
we
open
up
the
floor
for
public
comments,
there's
a
code
of
conduct
in
the
council
chambers,
members
of
the
public
should
familiarize
themselves
with
the
plaque
on
the
wall
behind
the
deus,
which
is
posted
right
there.
B
B
Speakers
are
to
direct
all
comments
to
the
council
members,
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak.
Speakers
should
try
not
to
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
This
ensures
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation.
No
applause
no
booing
before,
during
or
after
any
speaker.
B
B
Okay
for
this
one,
I
will
be
reading
the
proclamation.
It's
my
honor
and
privilege
to
present
this
proclamation
for
visual
arts
center
day.
Whereas
60
years
ago,
a
small
group
of
artists
held
an
outdoor
art
show
and
an
astonishing
3
000
people
came
and
whereas
these
artists
organized
held
more
art,
shows
and
taught
art
classes
in
various
locations.
Around
punta
gorda
in
bank
schools
and
small
storefronts
funds
were
raised
by
the
community.
Grants
were
sought,
land
was
provided
by
the
city
through
a
land
lease
and
in
four
construction
and
funding
phases.
B
Excuse
me,
and
whereas
each
year,
2500
individuals
participate
in
art
classes
taught
by
professional
artists,
including
drawing
painting,
jewelry
pottery
glass.
Fiber
and
photography
supported
by
an
extensive
art,
library
and
art
supply
store
and
whereas
the
visual
arts
center
has
enhanced
the
quality
of
life
for
many
residents
and
visitors,
and
this
year
is
celebrating
60
years
of
outstanding
service
to
the
community,
culminating
in
its
60th
anniversary
party
on
april
9
2022.
B
C
For
the
record,
donna
peterman
president
of
the
visual
arts
center
on
behalf
of
the
boards
of
the
visual
arts
center
and
the
endowment
trust,
I
want
to
thank
mayor
matthews
and
the
members
of
the
council
for
the
significant
recognition,
and
I
want
to
pledge
to
all
of
you
that
we
intend
to
be
providing
60
more
years
of
cultural
enrichment
to
the
city
of
pontogorda.
Thank
you.
B
C
Academy
2022
session
has
been
successfully
completed
with
16
individuals
graduating.
We
don't
have
everyone
here
today,
but
this
is
part
of
the
group
that
attended
for
those
unfamiliar
with
citizens
academy.
It
is
in
eight
weeks
sessions
the
participants
are
guided
through
an
overview
of
department
functions,
some
of
our
departments
that
participated
provided
demonstrations
of
their
work
and
tours
of
their
building.
C
C
H
I
J
J
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
pontogorda
florida
does
here
par
hereby
proclaim
the
week
of
april
10th
through
the
16th
2022
as
national
telecommunications
week
and
does
hereby
honor
all
the
men
and
women
whose
diligence
and
professionalism
keep
our
citizens
our
city
and
citizens
safe,
passed
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
The
sixth
day
of
april
2022
signed
lennar
matthews
mayor
accepting
will
be
audrey
dennis.
C
She's
going
to
pump
that
over
to
me
good
morning,
everybody
chief
pam
davis,
from
agora,
police
department-
I
I
can't
say
enough
about
our
communications
section
and
before
I
even
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
section
itself,
I
want
to
say
the
phenomenal
job
they
did
during
the
fire.
I
I
was
on
the
radio
saying
call
this
person
call
that
person
and
they
just
it,
was
done
and-
and
I
you
contributed
to
to
the
safety
of
all
those
people
out
there
so
phenomenal
job.
C
Our
communications
section
is
made
up
of
nine
dispatchers
as
well
as
one
senior
dispatcher,
and
then
our
communication
supervisor
audrey,
dennis
it's
24
hours,
seven
days
a
week,
all
the
holidays
they're
in
there
and
they
do
a
phenomenal
job.
They
are
responsible
for.
Obviously,
all
the
fire
calls
all.
The
police
calls
they're
the
backup
dispatch
center
for
charlotte
county
sheriff's
office
as
well.
C
They
answer
all
the
911
calls
that
come
through
and
everything
else,
but
they
process
in
addition
to
the
the
calls
that
they
receive
that
that
councilman
koharsky
said
they
also
processed
52.
Let's
see
50
almost
52
000
police
events.
So
when
the
officers
are
not
only
going
to
call
for
service
they're,
also
going
out
on
things
proactively,
they
process
that
many
as
well
as
4200
fire
events.
C
A
Eight
thousand
five
hundred
and
eighty
two
hours
of
service
to
the
fundagorda
police
department
in
fiscal
year
2021
and
whereas
the
punta
gorda
police
department,
vip
program,
has
68
active
members
supporting
community,
including
support
of
our
judiciary,
program,
police,
pension
board
and
community
garden.
And
therefore
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
pontogorda.
Florida
does
hereby
proclaim
april
10th
through
16th
2022
is
national
volunteer
week
in
pontogorda
and
does
honor
all
those
men
and
women
whose
diligence
and
professionalism
under
the
vouchers
and
policing
program
possible,
passed
and
duly
adopted.
H
I
did
want
to
just
take
a
few
moments
to
thank
our
volunteers,
who
work
so
diligently
here
in
the
city
of
punta
gorda,
and
although
the
focus
of
the
proclamation
was
our
volunteer
and
policing
program,
the
the
reality
is.
We
have
a
lot
of
other
programs.
Bill.
Closter
represents
our
chaplain
program,
he's
one
of
two
chaplains
that
volunteer
a
good
amount
of
time
to
the
city
police
department
and
we
have
reserve
police
officers.
H
These
are
fully
certified
law
enforcement
officers
who
do
not
get
paid
anything
who
actually
volunteered
time
for
the
police
department
and
I'd
be
remiss.
If
I
didn't
recognize
our
counterparts,
the
fire
department
have
a
very
robust
volunteer
program
in
and
of
themselves.
Our
volunteer
program
actually
started
25
years
ago,
so
our
nice
anniversary
this
year
recognizing
our
volunteer
program.
H
It
started
out
with
a
marine
patrol
and
chaplain
services
and
has
grown
to
around
the
68
70
member
mark
over
the
years.
We
have
a
great
deal
of
responsibilities
for
our
volunteers.
From
patrolling
the
canals
and
our
marine
patrol
our
volunteers
on
bicycle,
which
was
added
just
a
few
years
ago
to
our
volunteers
on
car
patrol
records,
components
and
so
forth,
our
chaplains
perform
a
very
important
role
for
us,
they're
kind
of
the
behind
the
scenes
of
the
behind
the
scenes.
H
H
That
was
somewhat
down
because
of
the
whole
covid,
but
these
are
the
kind
of
things
that
our
volunteers
are
out
there
doing,
they're
out
there
directing
doing
directed
patrols
of
the
schools,
the
parks,
the
various
locations
that
the
cities
needs
assistance,
as
we
also,
of
course,
have
a
great
customer
service
through
our
volunteer
program.
So
thank
you
very
much
volunteers
for
everything
you
do.
These
are
some
of
the
coordinators
who
volunteer
their
time
leading
the
program,
and
we
appreciate
everything
you
guys
do
to
help
support
the
city.
Thank
you.
B
B
K
Well,
certainly,
a
lot
of
good
things
happening
in
the
city,
as
you
can
see,
and
none
of
that
really
can
happen
without
water.
So
we
have
a
great
system
here
that
serves
the
city
of
punta
gorda
and
I
think
you'll
hear
more
in
the
coming
weeks
and
or
months,
because
we've
also
just
won
a
best
taste
of
the
tap
for
municipal
systems
in
the
region.
So
the
water
that
was
produced
here
by
our
new
ro
plant
and
blended
has
just
won
that
award.
K
So
with
that,
I
would
also
like
to
read
and
urge
water
conservation,
especially
this
time
of
year.
It's
certainly
appropriate,
whereas
water
is
the
basic,
essential
need
of
every
living
creature
and
whereas
the
state
of
florida,
water
management,
districts
and
the
city
of
punta
gorda
work
together
to
increase
awareness
about
the
importance
of
water
conservation
and,
whereas
april
is
typically
a
dry
month
when
water
demands
are
most
acute.
K
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
pontogorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
april
as
water
conservation
month
and
calls
upon
each
citizen
and
business
to
help
protect
this
precious
resource
by
practicing
water
saving
measures
and
becoming
more
aware
of
the
need
to
save
water
passed
and
duly
adopted
the
6th
day
of
april
2022,
and
neil
peters
will
be
accepting
that,
on
behalf
of
the
water
department.
I'd
also
like
to
mention
simple
things:
a
humorous
aside.
K
E
K
B
L
And
when
these
loved
ones
respond
with
doubt,
shame
or
blame
victims
suffer
additional
negative
effects
on
their
physical
and
psychological
well-being
and
whereas
the
start
by
believing
public
awareness
campaign
a
program
of
end
violence
against
women
international
is
designed
to
improve
the
responses
of
friends,
family
members
and
community
professionals.
So
they
can
help
victims,
access
supportive
resources
and
engage
the
criminal
justice
system.
L
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim
the
first
wednesday
of
april
each
year
to
be
start
by
believing
day
pass
and
duly
adopted
a
regular
session.
The
sixth
day
of
april
2022
city,
puna
gorda,
signed
lynn,
r,
matthews
mayor
and
accepting
this
will
be
karen
mcelhaney,
which
is
the
executive
director
of
care.
G
C
B
K
It
is
an
appropriate
time
to
honor
him
and
celebrate
the
use
of
parliamentary
procedure
and
whereas
it
is
also
fitting
to
honor
henry
martin,
robert
author
of
pocket
manual,
rules
of
order
for
deliberative
assemblies,
also
known
as
robert's
rules
of
order
of
which
I
have
a
copy.
Actually,
the
pocket
manual
and
whereas
robert's
rules
of
order.
Newly
revised
is
the
most
widely
recognized
and
used
parliamentary
authority
in
public
and
private
organizations.
K
And
whereas
it
is
timely
to
reflect
on
the
importance
of
parliamentary
procedure
in
providing
for
civil
discourse,
protecting
individual
rights,
ensuring
fairness
and
then
maintaining
order.
And
whereas
the
national
association
of
parliamentarians
is
a
professional
society
dedicated
to
educating
leaders
throughout
the
world
in
effective
meeting
management
through
the
use
of
parliamentary
procedure
and
their
vision
is
to
provide
parliamentary
leadership
to
the
world
and
whereas
the
national
association
of
parliamentarians
has,
by
adoption
of
a
standing
rule
designated
the
month
of
april
as
parliamentary
law
month.
Now.
K
K
C
G
We
have
trained
leaders
at
the
punta
gorda
isle
civic
association,
run
our
traditional
introductory
course
and
are
just
finishing
up
our
presiding
class.
We
can
continue
during
the
pandemic
to
have
business
meetings
and
educational
lessons
via
zoom.
These
are
open
to
the
public
and
you
may
find
out
further
information
at
robert.
B
B
B
K
He
knows
things
about
the
city
that
we'll
never
know
and
he'll
probably
never
tell,
but
he's
certainly
done
a
fantastic
job.
He
has
helped
promote
and
facilitate
a
fantastic
operation
and
the
people
that
work
in
that
operation
have
had
the
benefit
of
his
skills
and
abilities
in
the
public
works
realm
to
actually
help
make
that
happen.
So
we
really
appreciate
everything
he's
done.
I
appreciate
how
easy
he
helped
make
the
transition.
K
When
I
came
here
and
it's
going
to
be
a
great
loss
when
he
leaves,
I
know,
he's
been
working
with
people
so
that
we
can
have
a
transition
like
he
would
an
orderly,
easy
transition,
but
I
hope
he
doesn't
expect
that
we're
going
to
lose
his
phone
number
because
we
will
not
so
was
that
rick.
Thank
you
for
all
you've
done.
Thank
you.
So
much.
M
C
C
I
have
a
long
history
of
friends
and
family
friends
who
worked
with
the
city
when
I
was
younger
and
even
my
brother
worked
here
for
a
little
bit
when
I
was
in
high
school,
so
me
and
my
high
school
sweetheart
joni
time
to
get
married
and
I
figured
I
better
get
a
job.
So
I
came
to
the
city
and
I'm
sure
most
of
you
that
have
been
around
johnny
lloyd,
has
heard
his
spirited
story
about
hiring
me.
So
I
thank
johnny.
C
So
you
know
the
family
joanie,
my
boys.
They
sacrifice
the
families
do
in
in
this
field.
We're
cooking
thanksgiving
dinner
and
dad's
got
to
go,
fix
a
water
leak
or
fix
a
sewer
problem,
or
something
so
the
family
sacrifices
and
promotes
your
career
so
much
thanks
to
them
too,
so
the
city's
my
family
and
going
to
miss
it.
B
D
I'm
dick
carr
retired
air
force
fighter
pilot
president
of
the
vietnam
wall
of
southwest
florida,
and
I
would
like
to
address
reconsideration
of
mowing
the
huey
to
the
wall,
something
that
probably
no
one
in
this
room
knows
in
the
late
60s
bell.
Helicopter
was
producing
more
hueys
than
were
needed
in
vietnam,
so
they
decided
to
give
them
to
five
bases
that
had
outlying
support
units
like
icbm
silos,
hundreds
of
miles
away
in
some
cases,
and
these
bases
stretched
from
texas
to
georgia
to
montana
to
idaho.
D
D
D
D
D
D
A
helicopter
that
saved
lives
is
not
memorabilia
and
number
two.
I
went
back
in
our
meeting
minutes
and
indeed,
we
discussed
at
length
having
the
huey
as
part
of
the
wall
and
one
of
the
city.
Council
members
was
president
of
all
these
meetings
and
he
understood
very
well
what
we
were
trying
to
do
and
we
couldn't
because
of
monetary
considerations.
E
E
E
Okay,
the
procurement
of
the
huey
in
our
mind,
served
to
show
the
depth
of
our
commitment.
This
wasn't
just
a
project
to
be
talked
about.
It
wasn't
a
pipe
dream.
We
were
serious.
One
of
the
concerns
was
location.
As
general
dick
carr
said.
The
healy
wasn't
included
in
the
plans
for
the
wall
from
the
beginning.
If
you
go
to
the
military
heritage
museum
and
look
at
their
diorama,
you
will
see
that
there's
a
huey
on
the
in
the
park.
E
A
concern
has
been
raised
about
vandalism,
I've
traveled
to
travel
to
the
city
of
okeechobee
several
times
to
look
at
their
monuments
and
memorials,
do
not
see
any
sign
of
vandalism.
General
carr
talked
to
their
city
manager,
who
said,
there's
never
been
an
issue
of
vandalism.
I
don't
think
that
would
be
a
problem
here.
E
E
We
try
to
mitigate
that
by
careful
design
and
construction
and
through
insurance,
the
huey
is
currently
insured,
and
the
wall
foundation
would
continue
that
if
they
had
to
be
the
responsible
party
for
the
insurance
in
the
future
maintenance
was
concern
considered.
We
will
commit
to
cleaning
the
huey
on
a
schedule
and
repainting
when
appropriate.
E
E
Hello
council,
my
name
is
bill.
Akins.
Most
of
you
know
me
for
those
that
don't
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
my
background.
I
was
a
director
of
fundraising
for
the
wall.
I've
been
in
charge
of
one
of
the
largest
veterans
parades
in
punta
gorda.
I
was
elected
to
the
wall
of
warriors
at
the
museum,
this
body,
not
you
but
declared
february
17th.
As
sergeant
bill
aikens
day
in
the
city
of
punta
gorda,
I've
been
on
the
board
for
honor
flight,
been
on
the
board
of
jacobson
veterans,
nursing
home.
E
E
I
brought
lee
greenwood
here
with
the
welcome
home
vietnam
veterans,
president
of
the
charlotte
county
veterans
council,
and
I
don't
think
anyone
here
knows
better
than
I
what
most
of
the
vietnam
veterans
would
like
and
that
is
to
have
the
huey
at
the
wall.
I
understand
some
people
don't
agree
with
it,
but
most
people
do
most
of
the
vietnam
veterans
and
most
veterans
that
I
know
we've
presented
petitions
to
you
and
they're.
All
you
said,
there's
always
been
some
or
one
guy
said
that
he
couldn't
stand
to
see
the
huey
at
the
wall.
E
E
E
C
E
Due
to
no
small
part
of
people
like
yourselves,
that
made
it
happen
as
well
as
the
fundraising
done
by
private
people,
I
can
think
of
no
better
place
and
no
more
beautiful
addition
to
that
monument,
then
to
move
that
medevac
huey
there
that
that
was
the
one
that
was
the
angel
of
mercy
for
all
those
guys
that
were
didn't,
make
it
out.
Quite
so.
Well,
that's
all!
I
really
have
to
say.
B
E
E
On
a
side
note,
I
wanted
to
ask
if
we
are
going
to
be
defending
the
punta
gorda
sign
ordinance
to
the
federal
level.
We've
already
have
1200
pages
of
documents
to
review
in
the
current
lawsuit,
one
can't
figure
out
what
the
actual
cost
of
the
lawsuit
is
costing
us,
because
it's
grouped
in
with
many
other
factors.
E
E
C
D
D
C
N
N
N
E
D
D
I
just
would
like
to
tell
you
guys
that
it's
very
important-
I
don't
you
know,
I'm
not
there
all
the
time,
but
when
I'm
gone
and
I'm
traveling,
I
can
call
these
people
up.
They
will
go
check
on
my
boat.
For
me,
they'll
do
all
kinds
of
anything
you
want,
and
it's
just
very
important
to
listen
to
some
of
these
guys
and
they
are
city
workers
here
and
they're,
all
wonderful
people
and
now
they're
threatened
to
losing
their
their
homes.
Basically,
so
this
is
dave.
Nichols
is
going
to
come
up
next
and
he'll.
E
My
name
is
david
nichols
I'm
a
resident
of
lashley
park
marina
and
we
would
like
to
continue
living
there,
especially
in
this
time
when
affordable
housing
is
a
very
important
public
concern
costs
are
through
the
roof.
We
have
service
workers,
elementary
school
teachers,
public
servants,
auto
and
home
sale,
workers,
bus
drivers,
all
work
and
live
in
the
community,
we'll
be
evicted
in
six
months.
We're
not
quite
sure
why
we
think
that
the
15
or
so
boats
that
call
this
place
home
will
continue
to
add
value
to
the
city.
E
E
E
The
liveaboard
list
is
12
to
30
pages
long.
One
guy
told
me
three
years.
One
guy
has
told
me
seven
years.
We
have
no
place
to
go
no
place,
I
mean
what
I've
I've
tried.
Every
marina
I've
tried
clear
water.
I've
tried
tampa,
I
mean
everywhere,
we
are
gonna,
be
kicked
out.
We
we
do
the
security
for
the
marina.
We
have
very
little
theft
inside
that
marina
on
these
boats
that
aren't
there,
the
people
aren't
there.
E
We
went
up
and
told
them
hey.
We
have
a
lovely
storm.
Coming.
We
watched
the
weather,
we
also
do
a
little
security
policing
inside
the
park.
We
have
a
lot
less
drug
problem
in
the
park
than
when
I
moved
in
there
two
years
ago,
just
by
us
being
around
all
of
us,
we're
taxpayers,
I
mean
we
work
and
we
just
feel
like
we
are
getting
kicked
out,
we're
going
to
be
homeless.
There
is
nowhere
to
go.
E
Is
there
a
way
to
help
us
stay
until
there
is
a
solution
to
our
issue,
because
we
have
one
lady
been
there
13
years
she
keeps
when
we
keep
our
boats
very
clean.
Everybody
is
welcome
to
come
down
and
talk
to
us
tour.
Our
boats
live.
Look
at
the
lifestyle
we
lead.
We
spend
a
lot
of
money
in
point
a
gorda
we
like
to
go
out
to
eat.
We
love
to
watch
the
shows
and
everything
we
do.
We
use
everything.
That's
to
us.
We
love
this
area.
I
come
from
iowa.
E
I
came
here
on
vacation,
got
a
job
and
sold
my
house
all
within
a
week
to
move
to
point
of
gordon.
Now
I'm
going
to
get
kicked
out.
I
feel
that
is
unjust
and
any
of
you
are
welcome
to
call
like
I
said
the
doc
personnel
know
us
they
can
get
a
hold
of
us.
We'll
come
meet
one
on
one.
You
can
come
down
and
visit
us
see
how
it
really
is.
J
E
J
J
J
F
F
I
think
of
students
in
the
school
they're
going
to
be
the
ones
who
inherit
what
we
create
here
as
residents
and
as
the
city
council
and
staff.
What
we
come
up
with
they're
going
to
be
the
ones
living
with
it
and
just
as
sandra
day
o'connor
encourages
civics
classes.
It
would
be
a
very
good
experience
if
somehow
the
students
can
come
and
express
themselves
one
way
or
another
before
the
city,
council,
caregivers
and
those
who
need
who
physically
can't
come
here.
F
You
may
see
them
here
for
six
months
of
the
year,
but
when
they're
gone
they
still
care
very
much
and
they
can
not
express
themselves
either.
As
I
understand
it,
I'll
talk,
quick,
there's
a
rule
on
the
books
that
you
cannot
submit
a
small,
concise
comment
and
have
it
read
at
a
city
council
meeting,
and
I
am
suggesting
that
we
re-evaluate
that
rule
and
that
the
small,
concise
comments
are
read
so
that
they
are
shared
with
all
not
just
this.
This
way
of
communicating
to
getting
answers,
thank
you.
B
C
G
C
G
I
have
homes
in
different
parts
of
the
country,
but
when
I
come
here,
I
come
to
a
family
and
that
family
cannot
be
reproduced
and
it
if
you
let
these
people
that
are
the
heart
and
the
soul
of
that
marina
go.
It
will
be
a
loss
to
all
of
the
residents
in
portugal
and
to
the
developmental
committee
and
the
community
itself,
because
they
really
are
ambassadors
for
all
of
you.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
Okay,
we
are
now
in
session
as
community
redevelopment
agency.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
all
commissioners
are
present.
We'll
first
offer
citizen
comments.
If
there's
any
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
offer
comments
on
any
of
the
agenda
items
on
the
cra
agenda.
Only
please
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
have
three
minutes.
E
N
B
D
B
B
K
Thank
you,
mayor,
greg
murray
for
the
record.
Obviously,
we
have
a
lot
of
the
project
detail
that
you
received
each
month,
but
to
talk
about
municipal
marina
activity.
Our
annual
rentals
currently
are
at
27.
Last
year
they
were
at
36..
You
can
see
that
our
semiannuals
are
still
at
two
in
our
monthly.
K
We
do
have
23
as
opposed
to
19
last
year,
so
fairly
consistent.
We
still
have
our
14
commercials
that
are
occupying
all
14
slips
available
and
we
have
moorings
at
15
where
last
year
was
17
fairly
consistent,
the
liveaboards
we
have
17,
which
of
course
we
have
20
allocated
minus
any
slips
that
are
unusable
for
repair.
K
So
with
the
community
room,
we
still
have
some
additional
usage
in
the
community
room.
That's
opening
back
up
and
we're
using
it
even
a
lot
more
for
city
meetings
that
are
necessary
during
construction,
so
things
are
working
out
well
there.
As
far
as
the
pump
out
vessel,
you
can
see
that
in
march
we
had
117
pump
outs,
107
of
those
were
florida
vessels
and
we've
again
been
able
to
dispose
of
2710
gallons
last
year.
K
So
with
that
some
of
the
projects
that
are
more
noteworthy
that
are
continuing
in
the
cra,
we
have
our
wayfinding
signage,
while
they're
producing
the
signs,
we're
continuing
to
have
the
bases
installed,
and
hopefully
in
may
we'll
say,
maybe
the
end
of
may
we'll
go
for
their
bouts.
So
we
should
have
the
way
finding
signs
substantially
completed
and
we're
going
to
put
a
big
ribbon
somewhere
so
that
we
can
have
a
ribbon
cutting
just
cut
in
front
of
the
sign.
K
B
K
K
The
consultant
will
perform
an
evaluation
of
the
historic
structures
once
we
have
all
that
complete,
it
should
be
in
the
gene
time
frame
where
they'll
have
options
and
they'll
know
exactly
any
surprises
that
we're
unaware
of.
Like
you
know,
pirates
go
behind
the
walls
that
we
can
use
or
anything
like
that
that
they
may
find
and
we'll
know
exactly.
K
Then,
when
we
come
back
to
council,
when
you
choose
what
options,
you
would
like
to
see
the
specific
direction
that
the
consultant
can
finalize
the
plans
and
move
forward
with
the
plans
and
then
subsequently
construction
to
get
the
project
complete
right.
Now
we
have
this
coming
weekend.
The
city,
clerk
and
finance
will
be
moving
out
to
the
new
facilities
so
that
they
can
get
in
next
week
and
start
looking
behind
the
walls.
K
So
anyone
with
business
for
city,
clerk
or
city
finance,
they
will
be
in
the
herald
court
center
adjacent
to
the
main
entrance
to
the
parking
garage,
and
you
can
see
the
doors
are
marked
city
council,
of
course,
the
email
or
email,
the
regular
mail.
That's
currently
in
the
city
clerk's
office
will
now
be
in
north
board.
K
It
will
actually
be
in
the
city
manager's
office.
So
when
you're
here
you'll
be
able
to
come
in
the
city
manager's
office
and
have
your
basket
that
you
can
still
get
the
mail
in
this
complex,
the
gilchrist
park,
harbor
walk.
We
anticipate
mobilization
this
week,
so
that
project
is
moving
forward
nicely.
K
We're
still
waiting
to
see
exactly
when
materials
will
be
available,
so
the
major
construction
that
relies
on
the
materials
to
replace
such
as
parking
areas
etc.
We
won't
have
construction
that
occurs
and
then
cones
around
it
for
four
months,
while
we're
waiting
for
materials
to
arrive,
so
they
can
complete
the
project
so
we're
beginning
to
stage
that
you'll
see
some
activity
over
there.
That
indicates
that
project's
also
moving
with
the
ac
freeman
rehabilitation.
We
have
60
architectural
design
being
reviewed
by
staff.
K
K
Not
only
that,
but
on
many
of
the
things
we're
doing
with
projects,
we
have
ductile
iron
pipe.
That
is
a
year
out.
We
have
pvc
pipe
that
you
know.
We
have
a
cost
for
the
next
four
months
and
you
know
no
guarantees
after,
but
there's
a
four-month
lead
time
so
we're
doing
even
on
some
of
the
projects
stored
materials
so
that
we
can
ensure
cost
and
availability
of
products
so
that
we
can
move
those
projects
forward.
K
B
B
K
N
B
L
B
N
N
No,
that's
quite
all
right.
Let
me
preface
my
my
remarks
by
suggesting
that
few
are
more
sympathetic
to
the
plight
of
live-aboard
sailors
than
me.
I
lived
with
my
wife
for
seven
years
on
our
vote.
In
fact,
when
I
was
first
retained
to
be
the
city
attorney
for
the
city
of
pontogorda,
we
were
living
on
our
boat
and
brought
it
down
to
punta
gorda
to
live
aboard.
N
Unfortunately,
it
was
soon
after
hurricane
charley.
The
city's
marina,
was
closed
due
to
damage
the
fisherman's
village.
Marina
was
closed
due
to
damage,
but
through
the
generosity
or
good
graces
or
whatever
of
fisherman's
village.
They
allowed
us
to
tie
up
a
boat
to
the
bulkhead
on
the
west
side
of
the
marine,
and
we
lived
there
and
acted
as
city
attorney
living
at
the
fisherman's
village
when
it
became
necessary
for
the
city
to
renew
its
lease
submerged
lands
lease
with
the
state.
K
N
N
And
so
we
were
able
to
get
the
state
to
agree
upon
the
renewal
of
our
lease
back
then
that
to
include
the
language
that
to
authorize
liver
boards
and
then
say
if
liver
boards
are
authorized
by
by
by
the
lease.
In
no
event
shall
such
liver
liverboard
status
exceed
six
months
within
any
12-month
period.
N
I
don't
know
of
any
marina
that
requires
a
submerged
landslide
from
the
state
that
has
language,
that's
even
more
expensive
than
what
I've
just
cited,
and
so
we
are
also
able
to
negotiate
with
the
state
to
allow
us
to
have
22
designated
liveaboard
slips
and
those
slips
are
identified
on
a
chart
that
was
re.
Part
of
our
submerged
lands
lease
identifying
which,
where
those
liverboard
slips
were
permissed
permitted
in
order
to
renew
submerged
lands,
leases,
there's
audits
that
are
conducted
at
the
time
of
renewal
and
anytime.
N
N
The
purpose
of
the
the
revised
use
agreement
that
is
the
subject
of
this
resolution,
was
to
do
several
things.
First,
to
make
sure
that
the
operation
of
our
marina
was
consistent
with
our
submerged
lands.
Lease
provisions,
including
the
provisions
that
I
just
cited
regarding
liveaboards,
so
that
we
won't
lose
our
valuable
submerged
lands
lease.
N
N
So
key
to
the
amendments
to
the
and
the
re
and
revision
of
the
agreements
that
we're
going
to
be
requiring
everyone
to
sign
is
recognition
of
not
only
those
provisions
relating
to
live
aboards.
But
there
are
other
things
regarding
what
you
can
do
on
your
boat
to
minimize
the
potential
for
harm
to
the
waters
due
to
pollution
such
as
not
conducting
any
type
of
construction
activity
on
the
boat,
not
engaging
in
any
type
of
type,
any
type
of
of
cleaning
or
maintenance
that
might
cause
pollution
and
our.
N
That
was
necessary
to
provide
those
tools
in
the
forms
that
of
the
agreement.
There
was
also
a
necessity
to
update
the
insurance
requirements
for
people
that
are
keeping
boats
in
there.
So
there's
a
number
of
changes
in
the
agreement,
including
changing
the
term
from
a
rental
agreement
to
a
use
agreement
which
avoids
some
of
the
landlord
tenant
issues
that
we
might
otherwise
face.
N
If,
if
we're
dealing
with
the
liver
boards,
I
want
to
expressly
indicate
that,
with
respect
to
paragraph
10
that
was
referred
to
earlier
regarding
to
the
regarding
the
electric
change
electric
charge,
that
was
not
changed
in
this
new
draft.
That
was
in
the
existing
lease
council
members.
You
have
a
question.
J
N
J
N
And
so
I
don't,
we
have
no
discretion
whatsoever.
With
respect
to
that.
You
know
I
always
considered
where
I
was
living
to
be
my
residents,
but
under
the
under
the
terms
of
the
of
the
submerged
lands
lease
that
also
is
prohibited,
so
so
the
language.
That's
in
the
agreement,
we'll
talk
about
the
submerged
landslides
in
a
moment
in
in
the
agreement.
That's
before
you
at
the
moment
it
is
necessary
to
comply
with
the
provisions
of
the
submerged
lands
lease
and
be
happy
to
answer
any
specific
questions
you
have
regarding
that.
L
A
N
Well,
I
don't
really
have
an
answer
for
that.
I
suppose
the
rv
parks,
I
believe,
are
licensed
by
the
state
in
a
different
capacity
than
our
submerged
lands,
lease
and
they're
in
order
to
avoid
permanent
residency
and
rv
parks
to
differentiate
them
from
mobile
home
parks.
That
regulation
is
in
effect,
and
I
presume
that
if
the
state
auditors
determined
that
the
rv
park
was
violating
those
rules,
then
the
licenses
would
be
revoked.
J
N
N
J
N
K
N
K
Whether
or
not
anyone
signs
a
new
agreement
in
the
last
lease
and
the
last
submerged
land
lease
and
specifically
in
the
new
one
that
they're
really
looking
at
enforcement.
It
said
the
same
thing.
So
if
you're
there
six
months,
whether
you
sign
a
new
agreement
or
not
you're
already
in
violation,
okay.
J
Question
on
the
on
the
electrical
issue,
I
mean
it
does
seem
reasonable
to
me
and
I
don't
know
why
we
would
be
charging
somebody
if
they're
using
zero
zero.
In
other
words,
they
never
connect
and
the
meter
never
moves
at
all.
Then
I
don't
see
why
we
would
be
charging
somebody
anything
if
they're
using
zero.
If,
if
the
sun's
not
out-
and
they
need
to
connect,
then
then
they're
in
and
that's
a
matter
of.
J
Well,
you'd
see
the
meter
move
if
the
meter
moves.
If
the
meter
moves
at
all
then
they're,
subject
to
the
charge,
if
the
meter
moves
zero,
in
other
words,
they're
completely
on
solar
and
they're
using
zero,
then
I
I
would
whether
or
not
that
was
in
there
or
how
it
was
in
there
before
it.
That
would
seem
reasonable
to
me,
but
I
just
want
to
my
last
comment:
is
I
just
want
to
reiterate
this
is
not
we
are
complying
with
the
lease
with
the
state.
N
That
that's
exactly
right
and
with
respect
to
the
electric
charge,
I
wasn't
responsible
for
putting
that
in
the
original.
It's
probably
been
there
for
for
quite
some
time,
and
so
I
can't
I
can't
give
you
a
justif
justification
for
it.
Perhaps
it
is
justified
based
on
a
standby
charge
or
whatever
I
don't
know,
do
we
have
the
ability
to
shut
the
circuit.
N
J
B
J
So
so
the
enforcement-
I
wouldn't
shut
it
off
if
they
need
it,
I
mean
because
if
it's
cloudy
or
rainy
and
you
need
power,
you
have
the
option
of
connecting.
But
you
know
you're
gonna
pay.
If
you
do
that,
you're
gonna
be
subject
to
the
five
dollars
a
day,
not
just
for
when
you're
connected,
but
for
the
whole
thing.
So
it's
either
you're
on
it
or
you're,
not
on
it.
K
And
I
believe,
okay,
if
you
want
a
detailed
answer
for
an
operational
question
rusty's
here,
he
could
probably
answer
that
for
you
how
we
read
the
meters
et
cetera,
but
wanted
to
make
one
other
comment
just
to
dave
can
either
verify
or
say
I'm
wrong,
but
the
submerged
land
lease
and
our
subsequent
says
that.
First
of
all,
you
know.
Specifically,
there
are
sanitary
facilities
in
there
we're
supposed
to
have
the
sea
locked
out.
K
If
you
don't
have
a
holding
tank
and
inspect
it
every
30
days,
those
kind
of
things
but
live
aboard
specifically
says
it
may
not
constitute
a
legal
or
primary
residence
and
that's
the
whole
six
month
thing.
It
does
not
say
that
you
have
to
move
your
boat
after
six
months.
It
says
that
you
can't
live
on
your
boat
after
six
months,
so
it
doesn't
mean
that
people
would
necessarily
have
to
leave
the
marina.
K
I
think
that's
a
matter
of
policy,
but
what
this
says,
what
the
state's
saying
is
that
you
can't
live
on
it
after
six
months.
That's
splitting
hairs
in
some
regard,
but
it's
not
splitting
errors
in
that
you
don't
have
to
move
your
boat.
If
you
still
need
to
slip
for
the
boat,
we
can
still
rent
the
slip
for
the
boat,
but
it
does
take
up
a
liveaboard
space
if
you're
doing
that,
of
which
we
have
20
and
are
limited
to
20..
But
of
course
you
have
other
slips
in
the
marina.
K
G
I
just
want
to
go
on
the
record
as
saying
that
once
a
month
I
sit
through
three
hours
worth
of
meeting
where
we
talk
about
people
in
our
community
that
can't
find
homes
that
are
families,
and
I
leave
those
meetings
so
depressed
and
now
I'm
finding
that
we're
as
landlords
going
to
be
making
a
whole
group
of
people
homeless,
basically
they're
they're,
just
there
has
to
be
something
we
can
do
there
just
there
just
has
to
be.
I
refuse
to
accept
the
fact
that
we
can
do
nothing.
G
G
G
No,
I
realize
that
I'm
saying
that
as
management
of
it,
we
should
have
been
on
top
of
what
the
lease
agreement
is.
So
we
don't
have
people
in
this
position.
You
know
we've.
Let
them
stay
there,
we've
let
them
raise
their
children
there
we've,
let
them
become
a
part
of
the
community
there
and
now,
all
of
a
sudden
we're
pulling
the
rug
out
from
under
them,
because,
oh
my
gosh,
we
finally
read
the
contract.
I
just
think
this
is.
N
B
B
I
just
recently
there
was
a
gentleman
who
wanted
to
get
a
dock
space
at
lashley
and
he
went
into
the
office
literally
every
day,
almost
a
year,
he
went
in
there
almost
every
single
day
and
he
kept
telling
he
kept
getting
told
that
he
was
first
on
the
list
and
then
other
boats
came
in
and
his
boat
was
not
in
now
he's
in
there,
which
is
a
whole
different
story.
But
but
the
problem
is
that
there
was
not
accurate
record
keeping.
B
L
So
I
see
this
a
little
bit
different,
so,
yes,
shame
on
us
for
this
enforcement
issue.
Correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
though
every
voter
that
has
come
into
this
marina
has
signed
this
before
this
is
not
something
that
has
been
changed.
If
anything,
it's
something
that
the
the
boaters
that
have
been
here
have
enjoyed
the
non-enforcement.
L
L
Correct
the
other
issue
I
see
is
in
regards
to
homelessness.
I
don't
see
it
as
homelessness.
Everybody
homelessness
to
me
is
somebody
that
doesn't
have
shelter
under
their
over
their
head.
They
have
boats,
they
can
move,
they
can
go
to
another
marina,
allow
for
other
people
to
come
and
enjoy
our
marina
and
our
amenities
as
well.
L
This
marina
was
never
intended
for
someone
to
live
long
term.
That
is
just
not
the
way
this
marina
was
set
up
to
be.
I
think
that
it
needs
to
be
enforced
right
away.
I
think
we
need,
because
I
don't
want
to
see
us
lose
our
land
from
the
state
of
florida
because
of
our
enforcement
issues.
So
that's
where
I
stand
on
that
bill.
E
E
K
N
Well,
I
think
the
answer
was
just
stated
to
six
months
within
a
12-year
period,
so
you'd
have
a
12-month
period
yeah,
and-
and
we
do-
I
mean
it's-
my
understanding
from
second-hand
knowledge
that
we
have
a
waiting
list
for
for
the
slips.
We
have
a
set
number
of
live
aboard
slips
and
presumably,
when
someone's
six
months
are
up,
someone
else
can
take
that
take
that
space.
N
Well,
for
that
individual
they
may
only
be
there
for
no
more
than
five
days,
but
if
it's
continuously
leased
so
that
it's
it's
more,
it's
you
know
more
than
five
days
within
a
30-day
whatever
10
days,
30
days,
10
days
and
30
days,
five
continues,
then
that's
technically
a
live-aboard
and
most
likely
that
may
be
a
live-aboard
occupying
a
spot.
That's
not
designated
for
live-aboard
use.
J
The
consequence
of
having
done
that
would
they'd
be
gone
already,
because
if
we
were
enforcing
what
what
exists,
the
this
we
we've
been
very
relaxed-
maybe
that's
generous
and
and
enforcing
it
earlier
would
have-
would
have
just
precipitated
this
at
an
earlier
at
an
earlier
point.
We
just
can't
lose
the
land
lease
I
do
agree.
J
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
that
we
could
pursue
buying
that
I
don't
know
where
the
money
for
that's
going
to
come
from,
and
I
don't
know
how
long
it
would
take,
but
I'm
assuming
that
that's
going
to
take
quite
some
time
to
pull
out
all
together
and
figure
out
where
the
money
is,
but
maybe
that
is
something
we
ought
to
look
at
long
term.
I
would,
I
would
agree
with
that,
but.
N
B
I
don't
think
any
of
us
are
trying
to
be
hard-nosed
or
or
evict
anybody.
I
don't
think
that's
the
the
issue
at
all
here.
The
issue
is
we're
technically
in
violation
of
our
submerged
lens
lease,
and
we
have
to
do
everything
we
can
to
get
things
back
on
track
and
and
make
sure
that
there
is
enforcement
every
day
of
the
week
on
this
program
or
we
do
stand
the
chance
of
losing
our
marina.
I.
L
N
K
D
K
Still
have
the
electric
stanchions
that
we
have
to
maintain
so
part
of
that
is
maintenance,
not
just
the
electric
usage,
and
in
that
regard
you
can
always
eliminate
that
altogether.
But
at
some
point
there's
a
cost
associated.
That's
going
to
have
to
be
either
in
the
the
use
fee
or
the
fee
for
the
electric
standards
that
are
there.
J
B
E
E
E
Morning,
my
name
is
rusty.
Hakes
dr
master
election
park,
marina.
As
far
as
electric
goes,
the
wordage
in
that
originally
stated
five
dollars
a
day
for
transient
use.
Only
the
rest
is
metered,
so
anybody
that's
there
overnight
or
for
a
week
five
dollars
a
day.
Anything
longer
that
can
we
always
can
read
the
meter
when
they
get
in
and
read
the
meter
when
they
leave
and
be
charged
exactly
what
they
use.
J
J
N
K
G
E
N
J
N
B
Concerned
that
the
this
agreement
expired
in
september
and
if
you're
going
to
start
churning
the
waters
up
with
the
state
asking
about
us
purchasing
our
submerged
lands
lease
for
permanent
purposes.
That's
going
to
call
attention
to
the
fact
that
this
has
not
been
enforced
for
a
long
time.
That
would
concern
me
a
lot.
N
N
L
Can
look
at
you
know
each
individual
slip
who
has
been
there
that
has
time
left
who
has
expired
their
time
and
I
think
at
that
point
we
have
to
make
the
decision
if
you're
over
your
expired
time
with
the
six
months,
then
you
have
30
days
to
vacate
at
that
point.
There's
no
need
to
sign
a
new
one
you're
at
30
days
we're
giving
you
notice.
You
have
30
days
of
vacation.
K
Are
you
saying
that
if
people
come
in
and
sign
the
new
agreement
that,
if
we're
exploring
purchase
of
the
submerged
lands,
for
example-
and
we
know
that
now
we
have
a
process
in
place
for
liveaboarders,
that
that
new
agreement
would
give
them
the
six-month
period?
While
we
explore
purchase
well
where
the
new
agreement
would
be.
L
I
agree,
I
think
the
purchase
just
needs
to
be
something
we
have
consensus
on.
We
put
that
to
the
side.
I
would
make
a
motion
that
you
know
you
go.
Maybe
it's
not
emotion,
but
we
look
at
each
individual
slip
and
the
ones
that
are
over
their
six
months.
They
have
30
days
of
vacate.
The
ones
that
may
have
some
left
will
sign
that
new
and
that
would
be
definitive
on
the
time
they
have
left.
So
somebody
has
four
months.
They
sign
a
new
agreement.
L
B
C
C
D
B
K
E
J
N
K
G
G
K
J
L
I
mean
that's
to
me
absurd
we're
even
having
that
discussion,
I
mean
we
have
a
management
company,
that's
supposed
to
be
managing
and
we're
not
managing,
so
I
mean
we
have
just.
Unfortunately,
we
are
now
the
bad
guys
that
have
had
to
make
this
decision
that
are
obviously
going
to
upset
a
lot
of
people
because
it
has
been
managed,
and
that
is
that's
just
not
right.
So.
B
N
D
I
I
would
like
to
see
coming
off
of
melissa's
proposal
suggestion
and
I
think
we're
all.
I
would
like
to
see
that
in
writing.
Before
we
take
any
you
know,
there's
there's
been
enough
back
and
forth
and
therefore,
maybe,
let's
put
down
the
procedure
in
writing-
that's
going
to
pertain
to
the
process
of
applying
the
new
requirements
and
the
time
limits,
etc.
L
L
L
That
is
not
an
issue
of
adopting
our
submerged
land
lease,
so
I
am,
I
would
be
comfortable
with
with
adopting
that,
so
we
can
move
this
process
through.
As
far
as
the
enforcement
that
to
me
is
kind
of
a
separate
issue.
That
issue
is
of
just
what
should
have
already
been
done
so
unless,
unless
that's
not
kind
of
where
you
were
going
down,
I'm.
D
L
K
D
L
B
N
L
N
K
Can
we
can
still
allow
them
to
stay
in
a
liveaboard
slip
without
living
aboard?
It
just
takes
up
that
liveaboard
slope
right,
correct,
so
don't
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
if
five
people
need
to
not
live
aboard
and
those
boats
are
not
moved
that
five
people
in
the
list
will
all
of
a
sudden
have
a
liveaboard
spot,
but
it
won't
work
that
way
as
a
matter
of
procedure.
Do
it.
J
L
L
L
K
L
L
D
N
L
L
C
C
L
L
K
The
just
in
that,
if
there's
30
days
to
sign
it
that
may
not
be
30
days
from
today,
it
needs
to
be
30
days
from
notification.
That's
provided
to
the
people
in
the
marina
now,
because
not
everyone's
in
this
room,
not
everyone's
watching,
we
can't
just
say
30
days:
we
have
to
notify
them
and
then
30
days.
B
B
N
I
was
asked
for
reasons
that
I
don't
want
to
go
into
necessarily,
but
I
was
asked
to
leave
the
fisherman's
village
marina
before
I
was
anticipating
having
to
do
so
and
had
to
scramble
to
find
other
suitable
facilities
for
a
liveaboard
vessel.
So
I
certainly
appreciate
the
situation
that
the
state
puts
us
in,
but
please
don't
shoot
the
messenger
that
includes
the
city
cra
in
this
regard.
B
K
We
have
the
resolution
in
the
general
agenda
because
it's
for
city
council
to
approve
so
once
this
resolution
is
read,
we're
going
to
do
it
again.
The
second
thing
is,
we
still
have
the
audit
report
for
the
cra
and
we
have
the
auditors
and
the
wings.
So
if
indeed
we
take
a
break
when
the
cra
is
finished,
if
we
could
move
up,
the
audit
from
the
general
fund
to
right
after
the
cra
is
disbanded
not
to
dissipate
it.
N
Right
well
again,
so
I'm
going
to
read,
I
don't
think
I
read
it
yet.
This
I'll
read
this
resolution
by
title.
Only
to
me
a
resolution
of
the
community
redevelopment
agency
of
the
city
of
puente
gorda
florida
approving
the
renewal
of
a
sovereignty
submerged
lands
lease
from
the
lashley
park,
municipal,
marina
and
authorizing
the
chairperson's
sign.
There
are
no
changes
in
this
lease
other
than
the
new
expiration
date.
B
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
renewal
of
the
sovereignty.
Submerged
lands
lease
for
lashley
park,
municipal
marina,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously,
and
next
we
have
the
approval
of
the
cra
annual
financial
report
for
fiscal
year
ended
september,
30,
2021.
I
D
I
I
would
just
add
something
that
there's
I
don't
have
a
verbatim
when
I
went
through
the
paperwork.
There's
one
reference
in
there
that
that
is
sort
of
negative,
citing
that
we're
limited
to
do
anything
but
apply
apply
revenue,
that's
resulting
from
the
increase
in
the
appreciation
of
the
of
the
base
of
the
cra,
and
that's
really
not
so.
D
I
Correct
it
wasn't
meant
to
be
negative,
it
was
meant
to
just
show
and
again
the
county.
Sometimes
when
they
hear
about
a
project,
that's
going
to
happen
in
the
cra.
I
get
a
call
from
the
budget
director
or
using
tif
revenues.
The
tax,
increment
financing-
and
I
say
no,
it's
a
different
funding
source.
You
know,
so
it's
just
to
have
that
documentation
that
our
current,
what
we're
currently
receiving
for
tax
and
financing,
is
only
allowed
for
that
debt
service.
As
per
the
agreement
of
the
extension
of.
K
K
K
D
On
that
last
point,
let
me
come
back
because
it's
an
issue
that
I
raised
going
back
probably
almost
a
year
ago
regarding
whether
with
regard
to
the
the
new
playground,
equipment
and
so
forth,
whether
or
not
the
money's
being
spent
from
that
somehow
we're
in
violation
of
that
specific
agreement,
and
you
did
point
out
that
the
source
of
that
those
dollars
were
coming
not
from
the
appreciation
of
the
tax
base,
correct.
Okay,
that's
right.
I
C
A
One
thing
regarding
to
the
ac
freeman,
the
the
the
the
the
legislature
did
approve
497
900,
so
the
governor
hopefully,
will
sign
that,
so
that
would
be
about
half
a
million
dollars.
That's
available
to
us
in
terms
of
this
year's
appropriation
and
two
regarding
the
emerald
point,
you
know
many
hands
make
a
light
load
after
the
fire
department
released
things.
B
L
B
I
Thank
you,
chris
and
simeone
with
the
city
of
panagorda,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
our
auditors
to
stand
up
just
so.
You
can
see
them
better,
I'm
so
sorry
and
a
lot
of
you
may
be
familiar
with
them.
They've
been
involved
with
the
city
many
years
so
again,
jeff
brown
and
tony
smith
from
ashley
brown,
smith
and
cpas.
I
K
I
H
K
L
B
L
B
I
Thank
you,
and
I
just
want
to
say
it
is
a
team
effort
again
from
top
down
and
then
including
in
my
staff,
putting
it
all
together.
Richard
branch,
george
sparks
linda
fans,
still
were
very
instrumental
in
helping
put
it
all
together
and
working
with
the
auditors,
so
we
we
really
appreciate
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Hard
work.
B
N
I
think
some
suggested
language
to
address
the
issue
that
was
brought
out
in
previous
discussions.
Regarding
this
ordinance,
I
would
suggest
that
we
could
add
to
the
end
of
the
new
language.
That's
in
sub
subsection
m.
The
following.
The
prohibition
contained
in
this
subsection
shall
not
apply
to
off-street
parking
areas
within
any
city
park.
A
K
Well,
let
me
let
me
add
something
else
that,
yes,
that
exactly
does
what
you're
talking
about
about
parking
in
in
the
park.
But
now
we
again
the
park
is
open
and
I
know
the
park's
not
open,
but
when
you're
parking
in
the
park
it's
open
right
now.
The
way
the
lisa
and
jane
were
talking
on
the
break.
The
way
the
ordinances
read
two
different
ordinances.
One
is
the
area
where
we
restrict
parking
between
certain
hours.
One
is
the
park
closure.
K
The
boundaries
of
both
of
those
does
not
incorporate
the
diagonal
parking
along
meta
so
that
diagonal
parking.
As
of
this
moment,
the
way
the
ordinance
is
read
is
not
encumbered
by
either
of
these
ordinances.
So
if
you
have
a
licensed
vehicle
and
you
want
to
park
in
one
of
those
diagonal
spots
forever,
you
can
so
when
you're
talking
about
fishing
at
night,
you
would
still
have
to
be
able
to
walk
through
the
park.
K
You
know
once
you
park
so
whatever,
regardless
of
where
you
park
in
the
park,
you
would
have
to
be
able
to
walk
through
to
get
to
the
harbor
wall
if
you're
accessing
it,
where
the
park's
closed.
At
two
in
the
morning,
regardless
of
where
you
parked,
you
have
to
walk
through
the
park
to
get
there
unless
the
sidewalks
are
considered
part
of
the
park.
K
K
K
G
K
Because
technically,
but
if
someone
complains
of
someone
being
in
the
park,
then
there
would
have
to
be
a
response.
There
would
have
to
be
a
complaint
in
the
first
place
and
by
that
time,
they're
going
to
be
on
the
hardware
wall,
but
that
is
what
we
have
the
way
the
ordinances
are
written.
We
have
one
that
closes
the
parks.
We
have
one
that
restricts
parking
and
that's
trip
along
reda.
That
has
diagonal
parking
is
part
of
the
reda
right-of-way.
It
does
not
include
it
in
either
so
that
parking
exists.
C
L
B
L
Well,
I
think
that
that
stands,
but
but
let's
take
that
example,
somebody
is
standing.
Why?
I
don't
know
in
grass
holding
a
fishing
pole
for
an
extended
period
of
time,
someone's,
probably
going
to
call
and
then
yeah
they
could
actually
they
could
be
asked
to
leave
because
it's
closed,
you
know,
but.
J
K
J
I
think
not
allowing
the
internal
parking
is
a
good
idea
as
long
as
you
can
park
along
reda,
because
then
it
contains
the
park
and
there's
no
exceptions.
But
you
know
technically,
you
could
walk
all
the
way
down
towards
fisherman's
village
and
access
the
harbor
walk
that
way
right
without
having
to
to
traverse
the
park
where
you
could
go
all
the
way
towards
the
waterfront,
hotel
and
access
it
that
way
without.
But
the
reality
is
that's
not
going
to
happen
straight
through.
Could.
N
I
will,
but
I'm
I'm
now
concerned
about
a
lot
of
things.
Okay,
so
let
me
I'll
read
the
language
and
and
and
this
was
to
address
the
comments
that
were
made
regarding
well,
you
know:
if
we're
allowing
fishing,
we
should
allow
people
to
be
able
to
park
to
be
able
to
get
to
the
fishing
or,
if
we're,
allowing
people
to
use
the
harbor
walk.
We
should
allow
people
to
park
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
so
the
language
that
I
proposed
based
on
those
comments,
was
that
quote.
N
The
prohibition
contained
in
this
subsection
shall
not
apply
to
off-street
parking
areas
within
city
parks,
so
any
on-street
parking
would
be
governed
by
the
ordinance
that
you'll
be
considering
subsequently
and
anybody
any
any
parking
facility
within
the
boundary
of
the
park
could
be
excluded
from
the
prohibition
against
using
the
park
by
the
language
I
just
made
or
suggested.
But
then
we
have
a
can
of
worms
to
deal
with
well,
if
somebody
is
going
from
the
parking
across
the
park,
you
know
they're
technically
in
violation.
G
B
A
See
one
thing
is
that,
like
I
said,
the
area
which
I
think
is
non-controversial
is
that
east
of
gill
area
definitely
do
not
think
that
the
parking
should
be
open
in
the
park
at
night.
I
mean
that's
the
reason
why
the
current
liver
boards
have
to
have
permits.
I
think
we
don't
need
to
go
anywhere
near
that
I
mean,
if
we're
going
to
have
accommodation
to
me
if
you're
saying,
there's
right-of-way
parking
that's
there
and,
if
you're
looking
at
leaving
that
alone,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
add
this
additional
language.
F
A
K
And
the
other
question
is,
then:
if
you
have
gill
street
or
you
have
jaskin
or
whatever
that,
when
you
walk
up
the
hardwood
wall,
you
have
these
streets
identified,
they're
printed
on
the
harbor
wall.
It
says
so
the
railways
of
those
streets
at
some
point
do
the
whole
way
through
so
are
they
considered
part
of
the
park
or
street
right
away,
even
though
the
road's
not
there?
The
railway
is
the
way
to
the
water.
L
I
think
what
we
almost
have
to
we
have
to
visualize
just
like
ponts.
You
know
they
actually
have
a
gate,
so
you
just
have
to
visualize.
If
we
were
obviously
we're,
not
I'm
just
saying
have
to
visualize
their
gates
up.
How
would
people
access
what
they're
going
to
access
and
that's
how
we
have
to
look
at
it.
J
J
So
if
you
made
the
exception
that,
if
they're
parking
on
reddit,
they
could
traverse
the
park
on
that
specific
pathway
that
solves
the
problem,
I
think
that's
reasonable
enough
access
you're,
not
all
the
way
on
one
end
and
all
the
way
on
the
other,
because
that's
not
reasonable,
but
to
allow
people
to
walk
along
there
from
a
parked
car
on
reddit
to
the
harbor
walk.
I
think
that.
B
B
A
L
And
I
would
assume
just
like
anything,
there's
lots
of
things
that
we
do
as
a
city
that
all
the
public
does
not
know.
I
would
assume
that
if
you
know
somebody
complained
that
someone
was
going
through
the
park
that
you
know
the
police
would
educate
them
on
hey
this
is
this
is
what's
going
on
and
and
be
you
know
and
be
done
with
it?
It's
just
kind
of
a
public
service
announcement
at
that
point,.
B
C
I
don't
want
to
interrupt,
but
chief
pam
davis,
county
board
of
police
department,
but
that's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
come
in
and
tell
you
is
that
when
we
have
any
change
of
ordinance,
we
usually
do
at
least
a
good
30-day
campaign
of
educating,
so
we'll
obviously
keep
checks
and
and
can
help
in
this
they've
got
if
you're
giving
them
two
options
of
getting
there
legally
we'll.
Just
that's
what
we
would
refer
to
when
we're
educating
them.
C
J
And
I
would
think,
that's
probably
largely
the
same
people,
so
it's
not
going
to
be
a
huge
communication
effort.
I
mean
you're
going
to
tell
them
and
you
know
and
they'll
they'll
be
talking
amongst
each
other.
Can
you
believe
they're
making
me
walk
on
that
path,
rather
than
the
grasshoppers,
and
I
mean
it's
going
to
yeah,
I
could
see
how
it
gonna
go.
I
might
even
take
a
fishing
pole
out
there
once
just
to
try
it.
B
B
K
N
K
N
B
F
B
I
B
B
N
Yes,
this
is
the
second
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
does
not
require
public
hearing
that
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
amending
chapter
23,
article
roman
numeral
ii,
parking
areas,
point
to
go
to
code
by
adding
a
new
section,
23-24
particular
code
to
prohibit
overnight
parking
between
the
hours
of
1
am
and
5
am
on
designated
streets
between
the
city's
within
the
city's
historic
district.
B
B
After
having
a
long
discussion
with
my
cabinet
group
yesterday,
it
was
suggested
that,
with
regard
to
the
number
of
permits
that
are
being
issued
per
property
that
for
single-family
residential
homes,
we
limit
it
to
two
and
four
multi-family
units
we
limit
it
to
one
and
if
they
need
additional
permits
that
they
could
pay
fifty
dollars
per
permit.
So,
in
the
case
of
such
as
a
rental
unit,
that's
a
young
married
couple
and
they
both
have
cars
that
have
to
be
parked
on
the
street.
They
could
pay
50
for
the
second
permit
if
they
needed
one.
J
So
so
I
had
a
related
suggestion
that
that
I
I
think
applies
here
also,
I
think
the
50
and
not
just
for
this,
but
for
replacement
permits,
because
there
was
a
concern
about
there's
a
concern
about
hoarding
permits
at
the
last
meeting.
So
in
addition
to
that,
I
would
say
not
50
but
500
make
it
significant
for
replacement
permits,
and
you
can
only
get
one
in
a
year.
That's
it.
So
I
would,
I
would
completely
agree,
but
I
think
we
ought
to
take
the
the
fee
up.
B
I
was,
it
was
also
brought
up
in
my
group
that
they
were
concerned
that
if
there
were
three
permits,
somebody
could
actually
sell
one
to
somebody
random
and
allow
them
to
use
it
and
park
on
the
street.
And
if
that
permit
belongs
to
that
house,
the
owner
of
the
house
could
say
if
they
were
asked
by
the
police
department.
Well,
you
know
it's
somebody,
that's
staying
at
our
house
or
something
along
those
lines.
So.
J
G
B
G
B
G
A
A
L
Okay,
bad
guy
again
nothing's
changed
from
the
first
meeting.
As
far
as
how
I
feel
I
did
a
little
research
one
thing
I
do
say
that,
because
I
have
a
feeling,
I'm
gonna
be
outvoted,
but
one
thing
I
will
say
is
I
don't
see
anywhere
in
this
that
says
that
this
permit
does
not
guarantee
you
a
spot
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
that.
L
I
asked
which
I
understand-
staff
is
very
busy
and
didn't
have
this
time,
because
I
had
my
meeting
yesterday
how
many
spaces
are
actually
available
if
you
gave
out
1500
permits
for
people,
you
also
had
people
that
came
in
last
meeting
and
said
that
they
couldn't
wait
to
park
in
front
of
their
house,
which
again
is
not
part
of
the
ordinance.
It's
it's
that
you
possibly
could
park
downtown.
L
We're
gonna
spend
eight
thousand
dollars
for
a
three
hour
enforcement
for
people
that
I
have
still
not
convinced
that
we
even
have
this
problem
downtown
for
parking.
I
understand
it
was
not
on
council
when
this
came
through
the
first
time,
so
I
do
understand
that,
but
I
just
want
to
put
that
into
you
know
just
just
think
about
that.
Eighty,
you
know
eighty
two
hundred
dollars
for
three
hours
of
enforcement,
plus
accountability
and
time
for
police
and
education
of
residents.
A
This
is
important
because
of
the
fact
that
all
of
our
marketing
of
the
city
markets,
the
historic
district
as
a
place,
people
to
come,
and
so
this
is
literally
where
the
city
of
planet
gordon
enjoys
itself,
and
so
the
residents
who
live
in
the
district
need
to
be
protected,
and
so
this
is
something
that
was
requested
by
the
residents
so
that
they
can
live
comfortably
unite
and
regarding
the
permits
the
clerk's
office
has
they'll.
Have
this
so
there's
not
hoarding.
All
these
are
they're
really
not
concerns
anyone
in
the
neighborhood
has.
A
These
are
really
not
real
concerns.
The
residents
just
need
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
park
in
their
own
neighborhood
and
not
have
people
stay
overnight
and
and,
like
I
said,
we've
helped
create
this
because
of
the
fact
that
we
advertise
this
area
as
the
popular
area
of
the
city.
The
residents
do
need
to
be
protected
as
a
neighborhood.
A
That's
that's
not
the
point.
The
point
is
actually
to
disallow
people
who
don't
live
in
a
neighborhood
from
parking
that
this
is
not
a
gamer
this,
this
no
one's
thinking
of
this
as
a
parking
guarantee.
This
is
simply
to
make
it
so
people
who
don't
live
in
a
neighborhood
are
just
not
able
to
randomly
park
there
overnight.
J
K
There
were
several
things
and
mitchell
can
expound
on
it,
but
you
know
first
of
all,
the
hangers
on
the
mirror
were
the
most
easily
visible,
the
highest
et
cetera,
so
they
could
be
seen
and
removed.
A
lot
of
people
were
when
we
talked
to
them
really
not
happy
with
having
to
put
a
sticker
on
their
car,
whether
it's
on
the
window
or
the
bumper
or
anywhere
else
they
did
not
want
stickers
and
for
police
being
able
to
you
know
center
line,
rear
view
mirror
see.
K
A
J
So
so
my
position
is
that
I
would
agree
with
what
what
you
said
the
the
last
time
about
the
two
and
whatever.
But
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
the
replacements
because
there
is
the
possibility
of
hoarding,
and
I
think
50
bucks
for
replacement
and
an
unlimited
number
that
you
could
buy
is
not
the
right
way
to
do
it.
I
would,
I
would
propose
that
we
make
it
500
for
a
replacement
and
you're
limited
to
one
replacement
a
year
and
if
you
lose
it
and
you
can
park
somewhere
else.
B
B
A
A
That's
if
people
don't
have
any
kind
of
good
behavior,
but
I
mean
we
have
a
higher
standard
for
our
residents.
People
just
don't
break
rules
that
were
true.
We
people
robbing
stores
every
day
just
because
they
could.
I
mean
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
our
city.
Actually,
we
were
known
as
one
of
the
safest
places
in
florida,
our
residents,
don't
we
we
don't
just
break
rules
here.
A
L
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
safety
and
you
just
made
a
good
point
that
we
are
one
of
the
safest
neighborhoods,
but
all
I
hear
about
this
parking
is
for
safety.
Again,
you
know.
Chief
davis
even
said
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
issues
if
someone
is
sleeping
in
their
car.
If
there's
an
issue
with
this
or
that
or
some
kind
of
you
know,
they
think
there's
something
going
on
that's
wrong.
They
can
call
the
police
and
the
police
will
go
ahead
and
investigate
that.
That's
why
I
have
a
police
force.
L
L
Okay,
that's
that's
an
argument
to
be
made,
but
when
you
live
downtown
in
a
city,
any
other
big
cities,
you
live
there
because
of
convenience
to
be
able
to
walk
ability
and
go
to
different
shops
and
whatnot.
With
that
comes
things
that
you
can't
have
you
may
not
be
able
to
have
a
bigger
swimming
pool.
You
may
not
be
able
to
have
all
your
cars
parked
where
you
want
to.
You,
do
have
to
give
up
some
conveniences
to
live
in
a
beautiful,
downtown,
historic
neighborhood.
L
If
you
want
all
your
cars
parked,
then
you're
better
off
to
be
buying
in
a
pgi,
bsi
or
somewhere
else.
Amongst
the
city,
where
you
can
have
that
option,
I
just
think
that
we're
going
down
a
slippery
slope
and
again
three
hours
for
eight
thousand
dollars,
plus
time
of
staff.
That
now
has
to
figure
out
which
plaque
is
good,
which
plaque
is
bad,
and
I
rest
my
case
again.
A
A
A
But
again,
that's
the
whole
point
is
that
this
is
for
the
people
who
live
there.
Is
that
this,
because
of
the
fact
that
we
focus
so
much
on
the
historic
district
as
the
entertainment
center
for
the
city
is
to
disallow
people
who
don't
live
in
the
stark
district
from
staying
overnight
there?
That's
what
this
is.
A
L
Disagree:
it's
not
a
small
thing,
it's
a
very
big
thing
when
you
come
to
staff,
that's
already
overextended.
Last
time
I
was
very
vocal
about
how
against
this
I
was.
I
received
zero
emails
from
anybody
in
the
historic
district
that
had
any
problem
with
the
way,
and
I
would
think
if
this
is
something
that's
so
big
with
residents,
they
would
have
been
here
and
we
had
a
couple
residents
last
time.
That's
it
and
that
resident
made
a
comment
that
he
couldn't
wait
to
park
in
front
of
his
drive
in
front
of
his
house.
L
So
I
disagree
that
this
is
something
the
residents
want.
Maybe
it
was
back
in
the
past,
but
I
haven't
seen
that
and
I
would
think
if
it
was
something
that
I
was
against
and
I
saw
council
member
talking
to
that
issue.
I
would
stand
up
and
say
no
wait
wait.
This
is
something
we
want.
I've
seen
no
I've
just
not
seen
that.
Well,.
A
Because
this
is
something
that
the
the
civic
associations
had
massive
attention
on
surveymonkey
I
mean
really.
This
is
a
lot
of
head
task
force.
It's
been
tremendous
energy
put
into
creating
this.
The
reason
why
you
see
this
now
is
because,
from
the
standpoint
of
the
neighborhood
this
really,
this
is
what
residents
want.
This
is
really
not
hard.
There's
no
reason
for
people
to
come.
Really
this.
It's
not
seen
as
controversial.
They
don't
know
that
a
city
council
is
opposing
them
so
greatly,
especially
again
when
a
neighborhood
carries
the
burden
of
the
city
pretty
much
black.
B
J
I
agree
with
council
person
lockhart's
argument
and
I'm
almost
swayed
by
that.
However,
I
I
do
think
if
this
is
something
that
the
residents
are
asking
for
and
we've
been
dealing
with
this
for
two
years,
trying
to
figure
it
out
and
with
understanding
that
you're
not
guaranteed
a
parking
space.
I
I
mean
I'm
I'm
okay
with
with
trying
it
out,
I
mean
if
it
turns
out
that
it
doesn't
work,
then
we
can
always
amend
it
later,
repeal
it
or
change
it,
not
that
I'm
in
favor
of
going
back
and
revisiting
old
decisions.
J
B
I
I
do
see
both
sides
of
it,
and
I
understand
what
your
argument
is
so,
but
I
think
I
think
there
seems
to
be
consensus
that
not
not
a
unanimous
consensus,
but
there
is
consensus
that
we
want
to
amend
the
ordinance
to
say
two
permits
for
for
single-family
homes,
two
permits
for
multi-family
units
and
if
they
need
additional
permits,
they
can
purchase
them
for
fifty
dollars.
Is
that
correct.
J
J
M
A
L
G
G
G
G
J
B
Okay,
so
there's
three
of
us
that
say:
100.,
okay,
so
here's
what
I
will
propose
that
we
put
into
a
motion
that
we
change
the
the
ordinance
to
reflect
two
permits
per
single
family
home
two
permits
per
multi-family
unit.
And
if
you
lose
one
of
your
permits,
you
can
replace
up
to
one
per
year
at
a
cost
of
a
hundred
dollars.
J
K
B
K
B
I
I
G
B
N
And
this
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
puente
gorda
florida
amending
the
budget
for
the
fiscal
year
beginning
october,
1st
2021,
by
providing
for
supplemental
appropriations
in
the
amounts
identified
in
exhibit
a
providing
for
ability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
I
I
I
Community,
that's
coming
into
the
city,
so
we'll
have
additional
revenue
and
also
we
have
additional
revenue
currently
in
commercial
as
well,
so
that
will
help
offset
the
cost
of
the
toters,
because
there's
just
not
enough
months
that
they're
in
to
just
use
the
multi,
the
multi-family
rate
and
impact
fees,
so
that
was
approved.
I
thought
thank
you
and
that
was
approved
at
the
last
council
meeting
for
the
tea
and
green
bomb
project.
So.
B
B
We
have
a
bunch
of
motions
in
a
second
to
approve
the
resolution
amending
the
budget
for
fiscal
year
october
2021
to
provide
supplemental
appropriations,
as
defined
in
the
agenda
package.
Any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously
and
we
have
another
resolution.
N
I've
asked
the
city
cra
to
approve
the
lease,
as
well
as
the
city
council
and
so
without
further
ado.
This
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
puente,
gorda
florida
approving
the
renewal
of
a
sovereignty,
submerged
lands
lease
for
the
lashley
park,
municipal,
marina
and
authorizing
the
merit
to
sign.
B
B
C
Yes,
ma'am
lisa
hannon,
zoning
official,
we
have
a
request
from
smugglers
event,
management
to
hold
a
new
event
in
lashley
park,
and
they
are
requesting
to
close
harbor
walk
during
the
event
hours.
Only
it's
a
one-day
event.
The
event
times
are
from
noon
to
9.,
and
this
is
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
graph
of
how
it
will
be
closed.
C
The
city
does
provide
the
detour
and
the
the
signage
for
the
closure,
and
it
is
up
to
the
applicant
to
put
out
public
service
announcements
to
let
them
know
to
let
the
public
know
it
will
be
closed
during
this
time.
This
isn't
the
first
time
smugglers
has
requested
this
normally
for
fourth
of
july
for
public
safety,
it
is
done.
We
had
four
events
back
in
2016
that
council
approved
were
annual
events
that
didn't
have
to
come
back
for
their
request.
Only
that
new
events
would
have
to
have
any
request.
C
It
used
to
be
the
smugglers,
chili
fest
in
january
wine
and
jazz
festival
by
the
chamber
in
february,
smuggler,
charlotte
harborfest
in
may
and,
of
course,
the
fourth
of
july,
and
that
was
required
per
the
city
fire
marshal
over
the
years
and
with
covid
we've
had
less
events
go
on
the
past
couple
years,
so
we
haven't
had
any
new
events
come
in
now
that
events
are
no
longer
permitted
at
the
marketplace.
Property
smugglers
is
going
to
be
using
actually
park
for
some
time,
and
we
do
have
that
applicant
here.
B
M
They
would
of
course,
sue
us
as
the
alcohol
permit
holder,
but
if
we
can't
control
who's
bringing
alcohol
in
and
out
of
the
park
during
our
event
hours,
then
it's
hard
for
us
to
say.
Okay,
this
person
has
had
one
too
many
and
we're
going
to
cut
them
off
if
they're
dragging
a
cooler
full
of
beer
and
alcohol
into
the
park.
M
M
It's
I
mean
it
could
be
done,
but
the
problem
is
that
the
bathrooms
which
are
included
in
the
rental
of
the
park
are
associated
with
the
splash
pad.
So
would
I
I
could
I
could
fence
around
the
splash
pad,
but
then
I'm
gonna
leave
the
restrooms
inside
of
the
fence
for
the
use
of
the
people
that
are
in
the
park.
M
B
C
As
as
part
of
as
part
of
lashley
park,
we
have
restroom
facilities
available,
they
are
open
to
the
public,
they
have
five
men's
five
women's
per
the
park
main
or
per
the
event
manual.
Unless
you
have
an
attendance
of
over
2
000
people
for
more
than
seven
hours,
these
restroom
facilities
are
compliant,
so
they
don't
they're
not
required
to
have
additional
porta
potties.
J
Well,
that
seems
to
be
the
answer,
so
yes,
I,
I
think
somehow
they
need
to
figure
out
how
to
get
in
and
out,
because
I
don't
think
we
should
be
segregating
that,
but
my
my
comment
goes
way
beyond
that.
In
that
my
my
group,
I
brought
this
up
to
my
group
of
eight
citizens
and
they
were
unanimous
in
not
blocking
off
the
splash
pad
the
restrooms
or
the
harbor
walk.
I
agree.
I.
J
Today,
if
we
do
it
or
not
today,
because
we
don't
do
them
anymore-
we
need
to
at
that
marketplace.
You
needed
to
completely
enclose
the
entire
property
all
the
way
around
with
fencing.
This
is
just
a
matter
of
convenience
because
you
got
a
wall
there.
I
mean
it's
going
to
cost
more
to
enclose
this
completely
with
fencing,
but
that
just
the
price
of
the
ticket
there's
got
to
be.
A
L
M
Well,
if
the
hard
walk
is
allowed
to
stay
open,
then
people
come
from
behind
the
condos.
People
are
riding,
you
know,
bikes
through
the
event
they
can
access
from
where
the
fishing
pier
is,
as
they
come
down
the
hard
walk
that
way.
So
the
problem
is,
though,
if
it's
open,
then
people
have
obviously
feel
like
they
have
access
like
they
do
on
any
other
day
where
someone
hasn't
paid
to
rent
the
park.
So
what
happens?
J
Well,
there
would
have
to
be
a
fence,
that's
my
point,
I'm
not
saying
I'm
not
saying
leave
it
open,
I'm
saying
it's
going
to
cost
more
money
because
there's
going
to
be
more
sections
of
fence
and
the
fence
is,
if
you
want
it
completely
closed,
the
fencing
has
to
go
all
the
way
around,
and
I
mean
you
are
renting
the
park.
You
have
a
right
to
to
rent
the
park
and
and
limit
the
access.
J
B
Yeah,
my
my
group
was
unanimous
not
to
close
the
harbor
walk
with
every
single
time.
We
ever
do
this
and
we
close
the
harbor
walk.
We
get
complaints
out
the
wazoo
saturday
when
I
was
down
at
harbor
ritaville
there
had
to
be
150.
People
walked
by
me
in
a
10-minute
period
of
time
when
I
was
standing
under
the
set
of
the
41
bridge.
Talking
to
the
conquistadors,
there
were
oodles
of
people
riding
bikes
and
walking
through
that
area.
B
People
use
the
harbor
walk
on
weekends
every
single
weekend,
and
I
am
really
opposed
to
closing
the
harbor
walk
on
any
given
day,
no
matter
when
it
is
there's
only
a
couple
of
events
during
the
year
that
have
been
grandfathered
and
I'd
like
to
keep
it.
That
way
as
much
as
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you're
trying
to
do
a
nice
event,
I
I
just
have
a
real
problem.
Closing
the
harbor
walk
for
something
like
this,
especially
if
you've
already
agreed
that
you're
going
to
be
putting
fencing
up
around
your
event
perimeter.
G
I
have
two
things
one.
My
my
biggest
concern
is
the
splash
pad
and
I
didn't
realize
that
it
was
connected
to
the
bathrooms.
I'm
sorry,
I
probably
wouldn't
have
brought
it
up.
Second
thing
is,
I
think
we
have
a
new
reality.
I
think
we
have
to
accept
the
fact
that
lashley
park
is
now
going
to
be
where
our
events
are
held
and
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
come
up
with
some
sort.
G
I'm
sorry
some
sort
of
rule
rules.
Maybe
we
need
to
tweak
some
of
our
event
rules
going
forward.
It
shouldn't
affect
this
gentleman,
but
you
know
I
think,
if
that's
going
to
be
our
major
place
for
events,
then
we
need
to
make
it
user
friendly,
but
also
city
friendly,
and
I
think
that
that's
the
problem
right
now
is
we're
having
a
conflict
between
user
and
city,
and
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
your
fault
that
this
is
probably
you
know
the
first
of
many
events
to
be
held
there.
G
G
I
wouldn't
win
grandma
of
the
year,
but
I
probably
won't
anyway.
So
I
just
that's
my
concern.
That's
really
my
concern,
but
I
do
hope
that
staff
will
look
at
this
going
forward
and
see
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
it
compatible
between
the
people
who
are
holding
the
festivals
and
who
need
to
make
money
which
is
understandable
and
how
to
serve
the
needs
of
the
city
of
puna
gorda.
L
I
do
agree
with
that
and
I
think
we
are
in
a
new
world
now
that
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
this
out.
I
just
feel
like
there
should
be
some
type
of
way
that
you
can
still
have
this
and
try
to
mitigate
your
exposure,
which
I
understand
you
know
I
think
wristbands
are
something
you're
going
to
have
to
just
do
and
maybe
heighten
security
where,
if
we
agree
not
to
shut
down
everything,
but
you
put
a
fence
around
there.
L
Yeah
you're
gonna
have
confrontation,
but
I
hate
to
tell
you
probably
enough
confrontation,
even
if
you,
if
you
close,
you
might
have
more
on
the
other
side
of
it.
So
somehow
we
could,
you
know,
agree
to
put
the
fence
around
the
perimeter,
but
not
close
off
the
splash
pad
and
the
other
areas
and
the
access
to
the
harbor
walk.
It
might
mean
that
yeah,
unfortunately,
you
have
to
spend
a
little
extra
money
on
porta-potties,
but
you
still
would
be
able
to
put
your
event
in
there.
So.
J
Yeah,
I'm
not
opposed
to
putting
the
event
in
there.
No,
no
just
opposed
to
closing
those
things,
and
there
is
a
way
to
do
it
with
more
fencing
and
potentially
more
porta-potties.
Although
I
think
if
it
was
mine
to
do,
I
would
do
wristbands
and
say
if
you
want
to
use
the
potty,
you
go
walk.
I
don't.
I
think
I
think
the
porta
potty
issue
is
the
least
of
the
issue.
M
M
Whether
it's
you
know,
taste
the
point
of
order
or
concert
or
you
know,
chili
blues
festival,
whatever
wine
and
jazz
festival.
Those
things
are
all
going
to
start
to
go
away
as
it
becomes
too
prohibitive
to
create
a
successful
event.
Here.
I
I'm
sure
there's
a
solution
to
it
and
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
give
and
take
on
both
sides,
but
I
think
it's
something
that
should
be
looked
at
sooner
than
later,
because
it's
going
to
start
creating
a
you
know,
a
huge
problem
for
event
planners.
B
I
don't
disagree
with
that
at
all.
I
would
like
to
request
that
staff
and
city
manager
put
together
a
lashley
park
workshop
summit
and
bring
in
some
of
the
event
planners
from
the
area
who
do
frequent
events
and
and
work
out
some
of
this
stuff
and
have
it
be
an
open
forum
where
people
can
come
and
comment
and
offer
ideas
and
have
it
do
like
a
brainstorming
session
of
let's
come
up
with
some
options
and
how
we
can
make
things
happen,
rather
than
say
no
every
time.
B
Somebody
comes
to
us
because
I
I
hate
to
be
that
way.
Maybe
we
have
to
put
in
footers
every
so
many
feet
at
lashley
park
for
future
fencing
needs
because
that's
going
to
be
a
frequent
occurrence
when
people
want
to
have
events
there,
I
think
it's
something
we
need
to
do.
I
would
like
to
ask
officially
on
the
record
that
we
do
put
together
some
kind
of
a
workshop
form
forum
for
this,
so
that
we
can
have
some
of
these
folks
who
frequently
do
events
chambers,
one
of
them
as
well.
B
You
know
when
they're
doing
the
wine
and
jazz
festival
and
other
events.
I
think
it
would
be
a
really
big
benefit
for
everybody,
and
I
would
totally
support
doing
that
in
the
meantime.
Let's
address
this
and
where
do
we
go
with
it?
My
personal
opinion
is,
I
would
like
to
see
the
harbor
walk
remain
open.
B
L
B
C
M
The
port-a-potty
issues-
that's
not
really
an
issue
I
I
already
have
like
18
porta-potties
coming,
because
I
I
hate
people
to
wait
in
line
to
go
to
the
bathroom.
So
that's
not
the
issue,
but
if
I
exclude
the
splash
pad
and
the
hard
walk,
then
I
don't
have
to
provide
access
to
anyone
to
get
into
the
park.
I've
rented
the
park.
M
C
B
K
I
want
to
be
clear,
yes,
so
I
think
the
two
questions
to
summarize,
I
guess
or
if
you
look
up
here
where
the
dot
is
so
the
one
thing
would
be
coming
around
the
splash
pad
and
that
would
allow
the
splash
pad
and
restroom
to
be
open
and
if
you
so
choose
to
put
a
gate
right
there,
so
people
come
in
and
out
and
you
had
a
way
to
monitor
it.
You
could
do
that.
That's
your
discretion
or,
like
you
just
said,
that's
the
whole
thing
and
not
worry
about
it.
K
The
other
issue,
then,
will
be
for
people
to
use
that
splash
pad
and
pavilions.
They
generally
park
right
here
now.
That's
double-edged
sword.
If
you
open
up
this
parking,
it's
going
to
be
used
by
people
coming
to
the
festival,
so
it's
not
really
going
to
accomplish
anything,
but
if
you
don't
then,
but
it
is
public
parking
right,
it's
public
parking!
If
you
don't
open
it
up,
there's
not
going
to
be
public
parking
available
there.
Even
if
someone
had
a
space
to
use
a
splashback.
K
K
C
E
J
Things
that
we
can
do
I
mean
footers
are
one
there
may
be
technology
solutions.
You
know
that
that
require
no
fencing.
I
mean
there
might
be
other
ways
around
this,
but
I
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying,
because
this
is
all
I
mean
aboard
is
all
about
the
festivals
and
things
and
and
as
as
the
marketplace
becomes
unavailable,
we're
going
to
have
to
find
solutions
that
are
friendly
for
the
people
that
are
putting
the
events
on
but
are
also
friendly
for
our
residents.
I
think
what
we've
come
up
here.
C
J
B
And
I
also
know
I
was
talking
with
john
from
the
chamber
yesterday
and
I
also
know
that
fencing
has
become
extremely
expensive
compared
to
what
it
was
a
year
ago
or
two
years
ago.
So
that's
also
another
consideration,
so
we
we
do
want
to
work
with
you.
Please
don't
misunderstand:
we.
We
definitely
appreciate
all
the
events
that
you've
brought
to
the
city
and
and
smugglers
is
a
great
supporter
of
the
city.
So
we
really
do
appreciate
all
of
that.
I'm
just
concerned
from
the
other
side
of
it.
B
You
know
from
all
the
residents
who
have
written
to
us
and
called
us.
I
I
actually
had
one
lady
one
one
weekend
call
me
on
saturday
morning
and
she
screamed
at
me
because
the
old
playground
at
lashley
park
was
closed
because
of
an
event,
and
she
screamed
at
me
because
her
grandchildren
were
in
town
that
weekend
just
what
you
said
earlier
and
she
was
absolutely
livid
with
me
on
the
phone.
B
M
And
in
like
I
said
you
know,
obviously
we
do
multiple
events
and
we
we
have
a
lot
of
assets
that
are
disposable.
You
know
we
we
own
some
fencing,
we
own.
You
know
staging
things
like
that,
but
my
more
I'm
more
concerned
with
that
person
or
entity
who
does
one
event
a
year
and
now
they're
going
to
have
to
brunt
a
lot
of
additional
costs
to
do
that.
One
event
so
yeah,
but
I
I'm
all
for
workshop
and
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to.
J
B
Point
here,
because
city
marketplace
is
officially
off
limits
for
for
events
right
now,
because
of
something
that
may
be
happening
there,
so
you
know
we
we'd
have
to
be
forward
thinking
and
I
and
we
want
to
work
with
you
we
want
to.
We
want
to
work
these
things
out
so
that
we
don't
have
future
issues
in
the
meantime.
L
B
H
C
Afternoon,
just
a
couple
of
quick
board
and
committee
items,
starting
with
vacancies.
We
have
vacancies.
Two
alternates
on
the
board
of
zoning
appeals,
two
alternates
on
the
code
enforcement
board,
two
alternates
on
the
planning
commission
and
one
seat
on
the
puna
gorda
housing
authority
under
nominations.
We
have
an
alternate
seat
on
historic
preservation,
advisory
board.
C
B
C
B
C
Afternoon,
ray
briggs
fire
chief,
so
kind
of
as
city
manager
said
the
county
passed
a
resolution
yesterday
for
a
county-wide
burn
ban,
which
doesn't
include
the
city.
So
in
previous
years
we've
done
it
a
number
of
ways:
we've
done
our
own
in
some
years.
Other
years,
we've
just
kind
of
been
included
in
theirs,
which
is
is
fine
through
some
details.
C
What
it
does
it
essentially
restricts
open,
burning
right
so
like
brush
debris,
all
those
sorts
of
things
which,
in
the
city
even
outside
of
this,
we
already
have
restrictions
that
don't
allow
open,
burning
of
debris
and
brush
and
those
sorts
of
things
it
does
restrict
recreational
fires
as
well.
It
does
not
restrict
so
like
fires
used
for
cooking,
like
if
you're
going
to
have
a
barbecue-
and
you
know
you
have
your
grill.
Certainly
you're
allowed
to
do
all
those
sorts
of
things,
yes
by
ordinance,
so
are
we?
C
Is
it
necessary
if
you're,
if
you've
been
watching,
you
know
the
news
or
anything
we're?
Certainly
in
drought,
like
conditions
with
the
drought
index,
probably
in
the
550s
somewhere
like
that
approaching
600,
which
is
very
dry?
Obviously
I
mean
we
only
have
to
look
to
last
week
to
see
how
you
know
that
can
affect
both
wind
and
environment
can
can
affect
it.
So
certainly
there
is,
you
know,
reason
for
for
the
band
and
we
support
it.
So
there's
a
from
a
city
resident
perspective.
C
In
fact,
we
have
a
nice
informational
sheet
that
we
often
will
put
out
and
let
folks
know
what
does
this
mean
to
us
sort
of
things
so,
just
again,
not
a
whole
lot
of
difference
in
what
we
currently
do
and
that
we
already
don't
allow
you
know
open,
burning
with
brush
and
debris.
It
really
restricts
folks
that,
like
me
that
live
out
in
the
country-
and
maybe
you
have
a
brush
pile
brush,
pile
or
a
you
know
drum
or
whatever
it
is
so
any.
C
So
maybe,
when
the
drought
index
reaches
the
mid,
500s
or
600
or
whatever
number
we
choose,
then
it
would
automatically
go
in
play
and
then,
when
it
gets
below
a
certain
number,
you
know
when
we
get
our
rainy
season
so
under
500
for
seven
days
or
some
kind
of
a
language
like
that,
then
it
would
come
off.
So
you
folks,
wouldn't
have
to
you
know
really
do
much
with
it.
It
would
just
happen.
C
C
B
C
K
C
B
I
would
like
to
request
that
we
put
something
in
the
weekly
report
this
week
about
this
and
specifically
about
what
you
can
and
cannot
do
in
terms
of
barbecues.
You
can
fire
pits.
You
can't
yeah,
and
I
also
think
we
should
reiterate
the
city's
watering
restrictions
agenda.
I
mean
information
on
what
days
of
the
week
you
can
water
at
this
point
because
we
may
have
to
go
to
once
a
week
as
other
communities
have
done.
I
don't
know
if
you
all
saw
the
canals
and
cape
coral,
but
it's
pretty
grim.
M
B
C
B
N
N
We
will
upon
recording
that
document.
I
have
title
for
that
property
and
we
had
a
court
hearing
this
past
week
with
respect
to
310
palmeira,
which
is
one
of
the
two
properties
that
we're
seeking
by
eminent
domain
and
and
the
judge
granted
our
motion.
We
should
be
receiving
an
order
of
of
taking
shortly
and
we
once
that
is
signed.
We
have
20
days
to
deposit
the
15
000
within
the
registry
of
the
court
and
we
can
move
forward
assuming
that
that
is
our
property.
N
We
do
still
have
a
court
date
for
may
31st
for
the
318
palm
era.
I've
been
working
in
a
cooperative
fashion
with
an
attorney
that
represents
one
of
the
parties
that
that
listed
as
having
title
to
that
property
optimistic
that
one
way
or
the
other
okay
worked
out,
but
expect
that
we
will
also
get
an
order
of
taking
on
may
31st.
B
G
C
C
So
our
offices
will
be
closed
on
friday
and
probably
through
monday,
just
to
give
us
some
time
to
get
ourselves
set
up,
we're
trying
to
be
as
organized
as
we
can,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
chaotic
once
we
get
over
to
herald
court,
but
we'll
be
doing
our
best
to
get
up
and
running
as
soon
as
we
can
so.
Okay.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
under
my
comments,
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
who
went
to
the
southwest
florida
league
of
cities
lunch
last
week.
I
think
it
was
a
nice
event
and
for
all
future
meetings.
You
are
all
welcome
to
go
with
me
when
they
happen,
and
I
will
make
sure
that
you
get
all
the
dates
for
the
upcoming
lunch
meetings
that
they
have
and
you're
welcome,
to
go
with
me
on
any
of
those,
so
it's
always
fun
to
have
people
on
on
our
side
of
the
fence.
Sometimes
that's
all
I
have
mark.
A
What
I
want
to
bring
up
is-
and
I
and
I
agree
with
with
with
mark
on
this
in
general-
not
bringing
things
up,
but
when
we
discussed
the
huey
before
we
weren't
operating
with
with
all
the
full
information
one.
We
didn't
have
the
conclusive
proof,
as
we
have
now
that
the
huey
was
part
of
the
initial
design,
as
well
as
having
testimony
from
those
who
actually
designed
it
and
raised
the
money
for
it.
A
Additionally,
there's
urgency
in
that:
if
our
community
doesn't
value,
you
know
the
painting
and
legacy
of
his
veterans,
another
community
will
take
the
huey.
And
thirdly,
I
have
visited
okeechobee
in
their
site
and
I'm
just
simply
asking
that
we
be
able
to
have
a
discussion
of
this.
I,
as
you
can
see
from
the
turnout
this
morning.
This
is
of
extreme
importance
to
our
veteran
community,
and
I
just
think
is
right.
J
When,
when
that
was
decided,
I
was
sitting
in
the
audience
before
I
was
on
council.
Nothing
I
heard
today
would
would
lead
me
to
change
my
opinion
on
that.
So
I
don't
or
or
the
my
the
vote
that
happened.
I
don't
see
going
through
the
whole
imaginations
of
of
all
of
that
to
come
to
the
same
decision.
The
ink
isn't
even
dry.
A
The
issue
with
this
one
is
that
again
we
were
operating
really
quite
under
the
assumption
that
that
there
was
validity
in
in
statements
that
were
made
saying
that
the
design
did
not
include
the
huey,
and
that's
the
most
important
part
is
that,
for
that
part
to
be
complete
for
the
part
that
for
the
park
that
we
decided
as
a
city
to
to
participate
with
for
people
to
have
raised
all
that
money
for
the
park.
This
is
the
missing
component.
A
But
in
this
case
it's
been
very
clear
that
the
veteran
community,
which
is
brought
which
has
made
this
so
important-
you
know
we
are
supposed
to
be
a
veteran
for
any
city
president
for
any
county
veteran
for
any
region.
This
is
something
that
that's
extremely
important
to
our
residents
and,
like
I
said,
our
last
vote
was
based
on
erroneous
information,
and
now
we
do
have
the
real
information.
B
L
L
L
I
can't
say
what
my
decision
would
be
at
this
time
to
be
honest
with
you,
but
I
am
not
opposed
to
revisiting
it
because
we
have,
as
I
even
stated
before
on
my
other
issue.
If
I
see
the
support
of
individuals
that
are
really
interested
in
this,
I'm
not
opposed
to
putting
it
on
an
agenda
to
revisit
it.
However,
I
will
say
on
the
record
that
one
of
my
concerns,
when
I
was
in
the
audience,
was
liability
for
the
city.
L
That
is
probably
my
biggest
concern
liability
for
the
city,
and
I
would
say
that
if
this
is
a
consensus
that
it
comes
back
on
the
agenda
that
I
would
personally
like
to
see
that
there
better
be
t's
crossed
and
eyes
dotted
with
definitive
information,
not
well
okeechobee
doesn't
have
vandalism
but
definitive
information
that
will
limit
the
city's
exposure
if
that
huey
should
go
into
the
park.
So
that's
where
his
name.
B
G
G
First
of
all,
I
object
to
the
fact
that
it
was
put
on
the
agenda
and
you
knew
what
it
was,
but
the
people
who
were
opposed
to
this
item
being
on
the
agenda
had
no
idea
what
that
line
was,
so
you
had
a
room
full
of
support
and
those
of
us
that
were
beset
by
people
who
did
not
want
it.
There
had
no
idea
that
it
was
up
for
discussion.
G
G
I
I'm
sorry.
I
do
not
believe
we
need
to
revisit
it.
I
think
it
we
discussed
it
ad
nauseam.
We
heard
all
kinds
of
things
and
I
still
have
not
seen
anything
that
tells
me
that
it
and
it's
not
that
I
don't
support
veterans.
Please
stop
saying
that,
because
none
of
us
that
voted
not
to
put
it
in
the
park,
don't
support
veterans.
I
helped
raise
money
for
the
wall
too.
I
helped
raise
money
for
the
fountain.
G
I
helped
raise
money
for
the
mural,
so
don't
say
that
I
didn't
support
veterans.
I
simply
believe
the
huey
does
not
belong
in
the
park
and
I
don't
want
to
keep
revisiting
things.
The
next
thing
will
be,
I
mean
who
knows
what
the
next
thing
somebody's
going
to
get
to
you
on
it?
Just
we
just
can't
do
it,
and
it
was
not
fair
that
your
supporters
knew
what
you
were
asking
for
and
the
rest
of
us
didn't.
A
So
therefore
the
people
who
came
they
knew
this
because
it
was
going
to
be
an
agenda
item
now
going
back
to
what
I
said
about
ignorance
once
again
we're
acting
as
if
the
museum
is
an
option
and
that's
one
of
the
points
I'm
saying
that
was
made
in
our
last
when
we
made
our
decision
in
people's
minds,
they
believe
that
that
it
being
at
the
museum
is
an
option.
It
is
not
that's
a
temporary
home
for
it,
it
will
either
be
in
the
veterans
park
or
it'll
be
in
a
different
community.
A
The
museum
is
not
an
option
for
its
location,
and
that's
one
of
the
points
I'm
saying
is
we
voted
with
the
assumption
of
that
and
getting
to
liability.
We
have
playgrounds,
harbor
walk.
All
this.
I
mean
this.
This
is
I
mean
we
are
a
recreation
community.
So
that's
really
not
something,
that's
any
more
than
any
other
jew,
but
why
I
say
that
we
voted
iran,
why?
I
say
that
we
have
to.
A
I
personally
feel
that
we
need
to
visit.
This
is
because
those
were
the
two
assumptions
one.
The
assumption
was
that
this
wasn't
part
of
the
initial
park
design
and
two.
The
assumption
was
that
the
museum
is
a
place
where
I
can
stay
in
both
of
those
erroneous
things
which
we
voted
based
on
two
things
which
were
not
true.
G
B
B
I'm
going
to
say
this
on
the
record,
because
I'm
sick
and
tired
of
hearing
about
the
the
issues
people
are
saying
nasty
things
about
me
behind
my
back.
I
am
not
speaking
as
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
military
heritage
museum.
When
I
sit
at
this
deus,
I
am
speaking
as
a
city
council
member
who
represents
all
the
residents
of
this
city.
B
I
don't
care
if
the
if
the
huey
stays
at
the
museum,
I
don't
care
if
it
goes
to
the
park.
Quite
frankly,
I'm
kind
of
tired
of
talking
about
it.
I
have
if
I
do
vote,
I
am
voting
as
a
council
member,
I'm
not
voting
as
a
board
member
of
the
museum.
I
have
no
conflict
of
interest
in
doing
so,
I
am
not
paid
by
the
museum.
B
I
sit
on
the
board
of
directors
and
it's
a
volunteer
position
and
I'm
going
to
say
this
a
million
times
more
if
I
have
to,
but
I
have
no
interest
in
voting
at
the
board
at
the
board
of
directors
meetings
for
the
museum,
the
the
board
absolutely
voted
to
allow
the
the
executive
director
to
talk
to
mr
hawkins
about
the
possibility
of
keeping
that
helicopter
at
the
museum.
I
did
not
vote
at
that
at
that
meeting
specifically,
so
I
couldn't
be
accused
of
showing
favoritism
one
way
or
the
other.
The
point
is
I.
B
A
J
B
B
L
B
B
B
L
B
Yes,
I'm
sorry
if
I
didn't
make
that
that's
okay,
yes,
so
the
motion-
and
the
second
is
to
not
put
the
the
huey
helicopter
back
on
a
council
agenda
for
a
future
meeting.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
three
to
two:
okay,
there
being
no
further
business.
We
are
adjourned.