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Regular City Council Meeting 7-13-2022
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F
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G
F
Thank
you,
carlo
okay.
Our
next
meeting
will
be,
after
our
summer,
break
on
august
24th
and
it
will
be
located
at
the
military
heritage,
museum
and
the
golf
theater.
So
please
plan
accordingly.
If
you
wish
to
attend
that
meeting.
In
the
meantime,
council
members
will
be
on
summer
break
and
we
are
not
scheduling
any
meetings
during
that
time
unless
it's
an
emergency,
because
we
need
time
off
too
okay
at
this
time.
If
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
any
issue.
Let
me
first
read
some
housekeeping
notes.
F
So
for
public
comment
purposes,
there
is
a
code
of
conduct
in
the
council
chambers.
Members
of
the
public
should
familiarize
themselves
with
the
plaque
on
the
wall
behind
the
deus
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
address
the
council
should
use
the
guest
podium
at
the
entrance
door
speak
directly
into
the
microphone.
By
begin
by
stating
your
name
for
the
record,
each
person
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
sharing
minutes
is
not
permitted.
F
Speakers
are
to
direct
all
comments
to
the
city
council,
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak
on
a
subject.
Speakers
should
try
to
not
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
This
ensures
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation,
no
applause
or
booing
before
during
or
after
each
speaker.
F
The
citizens
comments
portion
of
the
meeting
is
not
intended
to
be
a
question
and
answer
session
council
members
will
not
be
responding
to
impromptu
questions
or
debating
issues
with
members
of
the
public.
So
with
that
said,
if
there
is
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
any
issue,
please
come
to
the
podium
state,
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
have
three
minutes.
H
H
In
the
weekly
report,
the
police,
patrolled
the
downtown
area,
it
was
written
during
an
organized
protest.
The
protest
was
completed
without
incident
without
incident,
because
I
drove
through
there
with
my
96
year
old
mother.
My
mother
can
still
see
far
she
saw
what
was
on
those
signs.
It
was
offensive
and
nothing
was
done.
In
fact,
this
time
the
police
were
present
for
it.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else
that
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
any
issue.
Last
call:
would
anyone
like
to
address
counsel
on
any
issue,
seeing
none?
We
will
move
forward
if
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
has
submitted
a
resume
for
a
board
or
committee,
and
you
would
like
to
introduce
yourself
to
the
council
members.
Please
come
forward.
F
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
the
public
hearing
agenda.
We
do
have
a
quasi-judicial
hearing
and
if
anyone
would
would
like
to
speak
on
this
issue,
please
stand
and
be
sworn
in.
Yes,.
E
There,
both
3a
and
3b,
are
quasi-judicial.
F
F
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
I
did
I
skipped
right
over
and
I'm
sorry.
I
have
to
backtrack
a
moment.
I
sorry
I
skipped
right
over
our
2a.
We
have
our
lobbyists
here
from
tallahassee
and
they're,
going
to
give
us
an
update
from
tallahassee.
A
Thank
you
good
morning,
I'm
rosanna
catalano,
I'm
delighted
to
be
here
today
as
a
partner
with
anfield
consulting.
There
are
some
new
faces,
so
I
thought
I
would
briefly
provide
a
bit
of
background
on
the
new
firm
and
provide
you
some
background
on
me
and
my
partner
edgar
fernandez
who's
there
in
the
back
who's
here
with
me
today,
anfield
consulting
was
founded
more
than
a
decade
ago
by
frank,
bernardino
and
albert
bolito,
frank
came
up
the
ranks
through
the
water
districts
and
albert
initially
worked
on
political
campaigns.
A
We
currently
have
six
partners
in
the
firm
with
offices
in
both
tallahassee
and
coral
gables,
so
our
reach
across
florida
is
very
deep.
The
firm
currently
has
six
partners
who
are
working
on
your
issues,
but
you're
going
to
see
me
and
edgar,
probably
the
most,
as
for
my
background,
I'm
an
attorney
licensed
in
florida
as
well
as
the
district
of
columbia.
A
I
began
my
career
as
a
criminal
prosecutor
and
then
went
on
to
serve
as
a
regulator
in
various
state
agencies,
including
the
agency
for
health
care
administration,
the
department
of
health
and
the
florida
attorney
general's
office.
Where
I
specialized
in
administrative
law.
I
served
as
the
executive
director
to
the
florida
elections
commission
and
before
I
went
to
the
private
sector
to
lobby,
I
served
as
an
associate
dean
at
florida
state
university's
law,
school
edgar
has
been
working
in
the
legislative
and
governmental
arena
for
more
than
30
years
prior
to
joining
anfield
in
2015.
A
He
was
with
the
miami-dade
county
for
17
years
in
various
capacities
he
served
as
the
senior
assistant
responsible
for
coordinating
the
governmental
affairs
and
policy
development
of
all
state
and
federal
legislative
and
appropriations,
issues
for
the
miami-dade
county,
water
and
sewer
departments.
He
also
served
as
the
governmental
affairs
liaison
and
assistant
to
the
miami-dade
county
manager
and
was
the
director
of
public
affairs
and
chief
of
staff
to
two
county
commissioners
prior
to
working
for
miami-dade
county.
A
So
let's
talk
about
session
2022,
as
you
can
see
from
this
slide,
there
were
3735
bills
that
were
filed
of
these,
about
1753
were
general
bills,
61
were
local
bills
and
more
than
1700
were
appropriation
project
bills.
A
No
she's,
not
I'm
just
teasing.
I
know
my
time
we
had
that
discussion.
You
know
my
time
is
limited.
I
promise
detention
for
a
minute,
so
the
2022
legislative
session,
convened
in
january
and
like
recent
sessions,
became
a
microcosm
of
the
national
politics
with
a
uniquely
florida
twist
among
the
most
hotly
contested
bills
were
redistricting
election
reform
and
the
relocation
of
immigrants
limits
on
abortions
and
the
powers
of
local
governments.
A
Let's
quickly
talk
about
the
budget,
these
numbers
that
you
see
here
are
the
ones
that
came
out
of
the
actual
legislature
and
not
your
final
budget
numbers.
The
republican-led
legislature
continued
to
steward
the
economic
recovery
of
the
state
and
agreed
on
a
112.1
billion
budget,
with
approximately
650
million
in
tax
relief
measures.
Governor
ron
desantis
ended
up
vetoing
of
this
budget
that
you
see
he
ended
up
vetoing
a
record
amount
of
more
than
3.1
billion
dollars.
This
is
double
last
year's
vetoes.
A
After
the
governor's
vetoes,
the
budget
total
was
109.9
billion,
with
the
general
revenue
portion
of
41.8
billion
and
which
was
an
increase
of
5.4
billion
over
the
current
year.
Florida's
total
reserves
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
is
estimated
at
over
16
billion
15
percent
of
the
total
budget
for
the
fiscal
year.
A
Thank
you
for
your
support
as
well.
So
it's
always
us
all
working
together
for
these
political
asks.
So,
let's
quickly
go
through
some
of
the
bills
and
I'll
go
as
quickly
as
possible.
There's
a
lengthy
report
that
we
have
submitted
to
you
all,
along
with
the
governor's
veto
sheet,
because
not
everything
in
that
initial
37-page
report
made
it
all
the
way
through
through
the
governor's
desk.
A
Also,
please,
let
us
know
if
you
have
any
questions
about
any
of
these
we're
happy
to
answer
them
after
the
meeting,
so
hb
7071
provides
for
tax
reductions
and
other
tax
related
modifications
designed
to
directly
impact
both
families
and
businesses.
The
bill
includes
several
sales
tax
holidays,
for
example,
there's
a
back
to
school
sales
tax
holiday
at
the
end
of
this
month.
The
bill
provides
property,
tax
relief
for
homestead
property
rendered
uninhabitable
for
30
days
or
more
due
to
a
catastrophic,
catastrophic
event,
think
hurricanes
starting
in
year,
2023
and
thereafter.
A
The
bill
also
increases
the
value
of
property
exempt
from
ad
valorem
taxation
for
residents,
who
are
widow,
widowers,
blind
or
totally
and
permanently
disabled
from
five
hundred
dollars
to
five
thousand
dollars.
The
list
goes
on
and
on
with
regards
to
this
bill.
Hb003
provides
law
enforcement
agencies
with
additional
tools,
financial
and
otherwise
to
bolster
the
recruitment
and
retention
of
qualified
officers
by
providing
financial
incentives,
enhanced
training
and
expanded
educational
opportunities.
A
Hb
7049
allows
a
governmental
agency
the
option
to
publish
legal
notices
on
a
publicly
accessible
website
owned
by
the
county,
instead
of
in
a
print
newspaper
under
specified
conditions
talking
about
bills
that
focus
on
resiliency
hb
7053
dealt
with
sea
level
rise
in
2021.
The
legislature
passed
senate
bill
1954,
which
established
several
new
programs
and
initiatives
aimed
at
addressing
the
impacts
of
flooding
and
sea
level
rise,
including
a
grant
program.
This
year,
the
bill
authorizes
dep
to
provide
grants
to
small
cities
and
counties
for
pre-construction
activities
for
projects
submitted
for
inclusion
in
the
resiliency
plan.
A
The
bill
also
extends
the
dates
by
which
dep
must
compe
complete
the
development
of
the
comprehensive
statewide,
flood,
vulnerability
and
sea
level
rise.
Data
set
and
assessment
by
one
year,
the
bill
also
authorizes
drainage,
districts,
erosion
control,
districts,
regional
water
supply
authorities
and
certain
special
districts
to
submit
proposed
projects
for
the
plan.
Under
certain
circumstances,
vulnerability
assessments
are
required
for
this
bill.
A
A
Many
of
these
ostd
s's
are
not
maintained,
so
this
bill
identifies
the
qualifications
of
those
making
those
os
tds
inspections
and
time
frames.
For
these
inspections,
for
example,
an
inspection
of
an
ostds
may
not
be
conducted
by
a
private
provider
or
the
authorized
representative
of
the
private
provider
that
installed
the
ostds
sb
1078
deals
with
some
changes
to
the
soil,
water
conservation
districts,
specifically,
qualifications
of
these
individuals,
hb
909.
A
This
bill
specifies
the
dep
secretary
has
exclusive
jurisdiction
in
setting
standards
or
procedures
for
evaluating
environmental
conditions
and
assessing
potential
liability
for
the
presence
of
contaminants
on
land
that
is
classified
as
agricultural
and
is
being
converted
to
a
non-agricultural
use.
The
bill
prohibits
the
secretary
from
delegating
such
authority
to
a
city,
a
county
or
another
unit
of
local
government
through
a
local
pollution
control
program,
but
it
does
not
preempt
the
enforcement
authority
of
a
local
government
through
a
local
pollution
control
program.
A
Hb
1475.
I
will
not
even
attempt
to
say
the
names
of
those
chemicals
I
tried
in
my
hotel
room
and
I'm
like
I
give
up
it's
we're
going
to
call
them.
They're,
they're,
usually
known
as
pfas,
so
pfast
chemicals
are
man-made
chemical
compounds
that
were
developed
to
provide
oil
and
water,
resiliency,
chemical
and
thermal
stability
and
friction
reduction,
but
exposure
to
these
chemicals
can
be
harmful
to
people.
So,
while
u.s
manufacturers
have
voluntarily
phased
out
the
use
of
these
chemicals,
they
do
persist
in
the
environment,
particularly
at
fire
colleges,
airports
and
military
installations.
A
By
january
1st
2025
the
bill
requires
dep
to
adopt,
by
rule
statewide
cleanup
target
levels
for
pfas
in
soil
and
groundwater
using
specified
statutory
criteria.
We
have
some
and
lastly,
we
have
some
growth
management
bills.
Sb
518
deals
with
tree
pruning.
The
bill
amends
current
law
prohibiting
a
local
government
from
requiring
a
notice
application
approval,
permit
fee
or
mitigation
for
the
pruning
trimming
or
removal
of
a
tree
on
residential
property
if
the
property
owner
obtains
documentation
from
a
certified
arborist
or
a
licensed
landscape
architect
that
the
tree
presents
a
danger
to
persons
or
property.
A
The
bill
also
defines
the
term
residential
property
as
a
single
family,
detached
building
located
on
an
existing
lot,
actively
used
for
single-family
residential
purposes
and
which
is
either
an
existing,
conforming
use
or
a
legally
recognized
non-conforming
use
following
the
local
jurisdiction's
applicable
land
development
regulations,
423
deals
with
building
regulations,
obviously,
after
the
tragedy
and
surf
side,
the
legislature
was
very
focused
on
this.
So
this
bill
made
some
changes
to
the
requirements
of
building
officials,
building
inspectors
and
plan
reviewers.
A
A
H
Good
morning,
mayor
council
members,
my
mr
manager
and
mr
attorney
I'll
be
real
brief,
but
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
work
with
the
city.
I
met
the
mayor
during
session
this
year
and
I've
come
down
to
visit
with
the
manager
we're
colleagues
from
the
utility
world.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
little
thing
on
the
pfas
issue.
We
do
more
than
just
legislative
work.
We
do
regulatory
tracking
and
work
which,
because
there's
the
nexus,
especially
with
the
federal
government,
the
pfas
epa-
is
finally
moving
forward
to
setting
some
standards.
H
So
that's
important
because
without
standards
we
don't
know
what
we
need
to
clean
up
and
the
state
is
moving
forward.
But
the
bill
also
stopped
the
enforcement
of
pfas
until
there's
actually
some
standards.
So
they
can't
come
to
the
city
and
slam
down
with
a
letter
and
say
you
need
to
clean
up
when
there's
no
standards,
so
it's
very
important
to
the
manager
and
then
on
the.
H
If
you
notice
the
theme
of
the
legislature
about
resiliency
and
water,
it's
been
many
years
of
working
together
of
groups,
so
this
grant
is
an
example
of
what
we
need
to
do.
Vulnerability
assessments:
this
is
a
new
cycle.
We
need
to
identify
all
these
grants
on
our
needs
to
be
able
to
be
eligible
for
grants
and
dollars
for
our
projects.
So
this
is
an
important
date
and
there's
more
grants
coming
and
the
organization
that
I'm
going
to
highlight
is
resiliency
florida
association
and
the
beaches.
H
Insurance
association
have
been
working
for
years
to
push
the
agenda
that
you're,
seeing
in
tallahassee
now
the
270
million
dollars
in
the
budget
on
it.
It's
local
governments
working
together
to
tallahassee,
letting
them
know
that
we
need
to
bring
more
dollars
down
locally
for
the
impacts
of
the
environment,
so
this
conference
will
be
in
bonita
springs,
it's
not
just
for
elected
officials
and
staff.
It's
for
everybody
that
has
an
interest
in
the
resiliency
of
florida.
It's
not
just
water,
healthcare,
energy,
many
things!
H
The
word
resilience
means
a
lot
to
us
more
than
just
water,
so
mr
manager
knows,
if
you
have
questions
from
us,
we're
always
available
emails,
calls
and
there's
a
lot
of
bills
in
that
report.
But
if
you
need
more
detail,
we
can
provide
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
and,
lastly,
looking
forward:
maybe
there
after
you
get
through.
I
know
you
have
a
lot
of
work
today,
you're
still
getting
through
your
buzz
your
budget
season.
We
need
to
turn
your
focus
to
the
2023
legislative
session.
You
will
need
to
pick
the
issues
that
are
priority
for
you,
as
well
as
the
funding
priorities
with
regards
to
issues.
Let
us
know
which
issues
whether
it
is
preemption,
vacation,
rentals,
etc
that
are
important
to
you
and
with
regards
to
funding.
A
A
A
A
legislator
from
jacksonville
or
orlando,
or
the
florida
keys
or
pensacola,
will
only
vote
for
things
at
the
capitol
that
they
know
that
they
can
defend
back
home
in
their
district
at
a
heated
local
rotary
club
luncheon,
like
they've,
got
to
be
able
to
defend
why
they
voted
for
this
thing
coming
out
of
punta
gorda.
So
when
the
governor
same
thing
with
the
governor's
office,
when
the
governor
travels
around
the
state,
he
needs
to
be
able
to
defend
why
he
didn't
veto
punta
gorda's
request.
A
So
please
keep
that
in
mind.
As
you
all
are
looking
through
your
priorities.
We
will
need
these
priorities
by
late
august
early
september
and,
of
course,
we're
going
to
work
very
closely
with
your
city
manager
on
all
of
these
things
and
we'll
cont
and
we're
happy
to
take
any
questions.
If
you
have
them
questions.
F
I
just
have
one
when
I
know
that
it
takes
a
few
months
to
go
through
the
whole
budget
cycle
and
the
money
starts
getting
distributed
for
the
projects
that
were
approved.
When
might,
we
think,
would
be
getting
the
money
for
our
fire
safety
training
project
so.
A
I'll
have
to
get
with
your
city
manager
as
to
whether
he's
been
contacted
by
the
state
agency.
That's
something
in
mid-july!
If
he
hasn't
been
contacted,
that's
something
that
I'll
work
on
next
week
and
making
sure
that
we
have
a
contact
for
him
so
that
we
can
start
getting
that
liaison
that
the
agreement,
the
contract
set
up
and
then
there'll
be
time
frames
within
that
contract.
Okay
of
the
things
you
have
to
mean
any
other.
I
You
and
I'd
just
like
to
mention
too,
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you've
done
and
for
the
update
that
you
provided,
because
that's
very
important
to
us
and
moving
forward
with
the
legislative
priorities
is
something
that's
key
and
your
help
is
key
to
us
being
successful.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
today
and
for
the
support
you've
provided
to
the
city.
Thank.
F
You
thank
you
guys.
Okay,
we're
going
to
move
on
now
to
the
quasi-judicial
hearings
and
everyone,
I
believe,
has
been
sworn
in,
who
plans
to
speak,
so
we
will
move
forward
with
quasi
judicial
hearing
se-01-2022.
F
E
And
this
is
a
request
by
carlos
authorized
agent
for
first
baptist
church
of
punta
gorda
inc
property
owner
for
a
special
exception,
pursuant
to
chapter
26,
section
16.8,
puna
gorda
code
to
allow
a
school
grades,
kindergarten
through
12,
which
is
permitted
by
special
exception
pursuant
to
chapter
26,
section
7,
point:
3.7,
f,
9.
code
for
a
property
located
at
459
gill
street
panel
of
florida
in
a
neighborhood
residential
single-family
10
units
per
acre
zoning
district.
B
Good
morning
lisa
hannah
signing
official,
I
have
been
sworn
due
to
the
comments
that
were
provided
by
the
planning
commission.
Do
some
public
safety
issues
and
safety
within
the
school.
The
applicant
has
requested
a
continuance
to
the
august
24th
meeting,
so
they
can
provide
more
documentation
and
staff
is
in
favor
of
that
continuance.
Okay,.
E
And
so
the
do
we
have
a
date
certain
august.
E
F
E
Public
hearing,
I
don't
think
it
would
be
appropriate
at
this
point
to
take
the
public
testimony.
Okay,
the
reason
why
we
open
the
public
hearing
and
then
continue
it
is
so
it
doesn't
need
to
be
re-advertised.
Anyone
who
presumably
would
have
an
interest
in
it
is
either
watching
on
the
video
or
present.
So
we
don't
need
to
re-notify
them
of
the
new
hearing
date.
F
E
And
let
me
explain
why
we
don't
take
testimony
at
this
time.
It's
on
the
agenda
that
it's
going
to
be
continued,
and
so
not
everyone
who
might
be
aware
of
the
agenda
came
today
and
I
don't
even
know
if
the
applicant
is
here
to
make
any
presentation.
So
in
all
fairness,
everyone
involved,
we
don't
take
testimony
on
got
it.
E
Yes-
and
this
is
a
petition
for
special
permit
under
the
provisions
of
chapter
6,
article
2,
section
2-1
e-
I
want
to
go
to
code
to
install
floating
vessel
platforms
to
more
17
vessels,
sizing
up
to
25,
utilizing
up
to
25
pvc
pilings,
which
is
not
expressly
permitted
under
chapter
6.
Article
2,
section
2-1
deep.
When
I
go
to
code
at
pontigorda,
a
tract
plated
as
shreve
park
in
section
12,
township
41
range
22,
also
known
as
802
west,
red
esperant.
G
Good
morning
for
the
record
of
brian
clemens,
interim
public
works
director,
so
this
is
a
canal
construction
special
permit
for
its
own
city,
home
property,
but
it's
for
the
land
to
sail,
learn
to
sail
floating
docks,
the
ex
as
you're,
probably
aware
the
existing
basin.
On
the
on
the
north
side,
we
have
the
dinghy
docks
which
are
accessed
by
a
aluminum
gangway
and
the
project
location.
Will,
I
think,
I
said
on
the
north
side,
on
the
on
the
south
side
or
the
dinghy
docks.
G
G
The
number
of
vessel
slips
is
not
equal
to
the
number
of
units
constructed
on
the
abutting
upland
property
and
the
floating
vessel
platforms
extend
beyond
the
structure
limitation
lines.
G
In
review
of
so
staff
recommends
favorable
considerations
per
review
of
the
application
in
relation
to
chapter
6,
article
2,
section
2-1
e4,
with
the
condition
that
safe
access
to
the
proposed
17
floating
vessel
platforms
be
provided,
as
I've
noted
here,
the
existing
concrete
dock.
I
have
closed
it
deemed
it
unsafe
and
we'll
be
looking
for
some
direction
on
on
that
item.
G
I
will
also
note
there
are
representatives
I've
learned
to
sail
in
the
audience.
J
It
is
greg.
Has
anybody
approached
the
mac
about
a
grant
for
replacing
this
piece
of
concrete.
I
I
J
I
There
are
several
things
there,
yes
and
to
answer
your
first
question.
Yes,
there
are
potentially
some
grants
that
could
help
with
that
for
initial
replacement.
The
cost
certainly
exceeds
the
cost
of
removal
right
now.
The
dock
itself,
if
you
look
at
the
concrete
slabs,
there's
cracks
the
whole
way
through
there's
a
settlement
near
the
pilings,
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
why
that
dock
needs
to
be
out
of
service
and
completely
removed
if
the
new
ones
to
be
installed.
I
If
we
completely
remove
that,
of
course,
the
cost,
whether
it's
grant
or
our
dollars
of
30
36
000,
that
would
be
required
for
replacement.
We
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
anymore.
We
just
have
to
worry
about
the
removal,
a
couple
of
the
issues
where
you
can
see
that
that
dock,
of
course
pushes
the
whole
platform
for
the
floating
dogs
out
further,
it
could
allow
them
to
some
of
those
to
move
back,
which
gives
you
more
room
in
the
basin
which
addresses
that
issue.
I
I
Then
there's
also
the
lease
agreement
itself
that
says
that
that
concrete
beer
is
non-exclusive,
which
means
that
basically,
not
only
could
they
use
it,
but
the
public
could
use
it,
but
in
this
configuration
unless
you're
talking
about
just
walking
from
the
uplands
onto
the
dock,
there's
really
no
way
you
can
come
in
the
side,
but
you
don't
have
use
of
the
front
of
the
dock
unless
five
of
those
floating
structures
were
removed.
I
So
the
intent
being
to
allow
this
to
proceed
the
way
it's
configured.
Removal
of
that
dock
would
probably
facilitate
a
lot
of
the
the
goals
that
are
needed
for
that
to
happen.
F
B
D
It
also
makes
more
room
in
the
base,
and
the
only
thing
that
I
would
suggest
is
that
learn
to
sail
then
would
need
to
provide
a
ramp
to
get
onto
their
right
floating
dock.
That
would
be
their
deal
yeah,
but
beyond
that
it
certainly
makes
sense
to
go
in
that
direction.
The
only
thing,
the
other
thing
I
would
suggest
is
rat
because
it's
going
to
require
some
new
drawings
and
some
new.
D
Rather,
this
is
something
that
the
only
reason
it's
coming
before
council
is
because
this
isn't
part
of
puna
gorda
or
it
would
be
coming
in
front
of
the
canal
committee.
So,
rather
than
have
this
redone
and
come
back
to
council,
I
would
suggest
that
we
would
just
approve
it
with
conditions
and
then
let
staff
work
it
out
the
details
of
where
the
ramp
goes
and
how
the
filings
can
move
back
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
Well,.
F
Their
their
lease
agreement
is
going
to
have
to
be
modified
to
reflect
these
changes
so
yeah,
and
that
that's
something
that's
already
done
so
it
has
to
be
updated
to
reflect
whatever
we
decide
to
do.
I
don't
disagree
with
you
at
all.
I
think
I
think
at
this
point
this
is
not
budgeted,
and
you
know
every
five
minutes
we're
coming
up
with
these
things
that
we're
discovering
cements,
broken
or
something's
happening
that
we
have
to
replace.
F
We
just
went
through
this
with
the
gilchrist
park
gazebo,
and
we
had
to
replace
a
lot
of
things
on
the
gazebo,
which
was
also
not
budgeted.
I
think
we're
doing
a
lot
better
job
at
being
proactive
in
fixing
things
than
we
used
to
be
and
we're
getting
things
updated
and
cleaned
up.
That
went
in
very
bad
disrepair
for
a
long
time.
This
being
one
of
those
I
I
would
totally
agree
that
I
think
we
need
to
remove
the
dock,
and
then
they
can
put
their
access
ramp
down
there.
J
Would
just
like
to
say
that
I
really
would
like
to
get
that
doc
out
of
there
as
soon
as
possible,
because
twice
this
week
coming
home
from
something
I
have
seen,
people
on
that
messing
around
like
kids,
jostling
and
stuff,
and
I
would
certainly
hate
to
have,
even
though
it's
blocked
off
to
have
somebody
get
injured
because
obviously
nobody's
going
to
be
there
24
7
to
keep
people
off
of
it.
But
if
we
decide
it's
deemed
unsafe
and
it
needs
to
go,
let's
get
rid
of
it.
F
E
Yes,
yes,
before
we
hear
from
the
applicant,
I
have
a
question
or
two
for
mr
clements.
Okay,
I
apologize,
but
when
you
made
your
introduction,
I
was
shifting
through
some
of
the
papers.
Okay,
did
you
indicate
for
the
record
that
you
had
been
sworn?
I.
E
G
Please
do
so
brian
clemens
center
and
public
works
director,
and
I
have
been
sworn.
E
All
right-
and
you
also
mentioned
the
six
criteria
for
that-
that
needed
to
be
met-
to
grant
the
petition
for
special
permit.
Did
you
review
the
application
in
light
of
those
six
criteria?
Yes,
do
you
have
an
opinion
as
to
whether
the
six
criteria
have
been
met?
I
do
feel
they've
been
met.
I
think
you
have
nothing
further.
F
Thank
you,
okay.
This
is
a
public
hearing.
If
there's
anyone
that
would
like
to
address
the
council
on
this
issue,
please
come
forward
and
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
that
you've
been
sworn.
Is
there
anyone
from
the
applicant
first
that
would
like
to
speak?
F
F
K
F
E
I
I'm
sorry
I
I
know
you
called
for
it,
but
I
didn't
see
anybody
all
right,
okay,
well,
the
reason
why
it's
important
for
the
applicant
to
be
here
is
is,
at
the
moment,
to
address
the
the
question
as
to
whether
or
not
they're
willing
to
accept
a
condition
with
respect
to
the
city's
removal
of
the
concrete
dock
and
take
responsibility
for
replacing
it
with
a
ramp
that
they
can
use
to
their
facility.
Okay,.
E
B
Brian,
would
you
bring
up
my
my
slideshow
we're
prepared
for
this,
so.
E
B
B
We
have,
we
have
drawings
of
it.
We've
done
all
the
drawings
we've
submitted
them
to
brian,
so
we've
got
we've
done
this
through
hans
wilson.
We're
you
know,
we've
got
fdp
permits.
We've
got
army
corps
of
engineer
permits.
This
is
the
last
building
permit.
We
need.
We
have
67
000
in
grant
money.
We've
got
a
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
loan
to
start
the
implementation.
So
as
soon
as
we
get
the
building
permit,
we're
going
we're
ready
and
we
don't
need
the
peer.
B
We
never
did
our
whole
design,
the
ones
that
you
approved
back
in
january
17th.
We
didn't
use
the
dock
except
for
access.
This
is
exactly
the
same
design.
We
haven't
changed
anything
except
we're
going
to
put
a
ramp
in
and
we
have
priced
out
a
ramp.
It's
six
to
eight
thousand
dollars,
we'll
have
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that,
but
we'll
we'll
put
a
ramp
in
no
problem.
B
B
B
So
this
is
the
drawing
that
was
done
and
presented
to
the
city
council
on
january
17th,
which
we
took
a
separate
vote
on
and
you
approved
this
is
the
hans
wilson
drawing
with
the
ramp.
You
can
see.
Actually
you
can
see
very
in
the
faint.
There
is
the
concrete
dock.
It
really
is
the
exact
same
drawing
the
only.
The
only
difference
is
that
we've
actually
moved
it
a
few
feet
to
apply
allow
for
the
ramp,
but
other
than
that.
It's
exact
same
drawing.
I
B
B
If
we
did,
the
pitch
we'd
have
to
come
out
like
30
feet,
and
we
just
don't
have
that
it
would
completely
block
our
docks.
So
this
this
works
and
we're
still
going
to
do
the
same
thing.
We
had
suggested
to
city
council
before
we're
going
to
move.
If
there
is
an
88
compliance
issue,
we'll
move
over
to
the
city,
docks
load
from
the
city
docks
and
then
go
from
there,
and
this
an
ada
officer
in
the
town
has
approved
that
and.
E
E
The
only
amendment
that
we
might
want
to
make
to
the
existing
lease
is
just
an
amendment
to
update
the
plan
that
was
approved,
okay,
but
I
don't
think
that
would
affect
the
moving
forward
with
this
matter.
B
Thank
you,
kathleen
croteau
building
official,
so
the
minimum
length
for.
A
B
B
Point
for
the
conversation
we
understand
that
we
addressed
this
a
year
ago
with
the
concrete
dock,
because
we
couldn't
put
in
a
ramp
on
the
concrete
dock.
There
wasn't
the
capability
and
the
ada
officer
came
down
and
said
as
long
as
you
move
the
people,
the
disabled
over
to
the
city,
docks
and
load
from
there,
it's
okay,
we
will
do
that
so
it
to
do
it.
A
10
foot
more
ramp
would
be
very
difficult
for
us.
It
would
basically
block
about
a
third
of
our
our
drive
on
peers
and.
I
What
that
premise
means
is
that
the
concrete
dock
was
not
ada
compliant
either.
I
mean
it
had
steps,
and
that
was
it.
So
we
didn't
have
ada
access
then,
but
on
the
other
side
on
the
dinghy
docks,
we
do
have
an
88
ramp.
So
as
long
as
anyone
that
needs
access,
which
is
right
across
from
the
south
side
of
this
location,
is
loaded
at
the
dinghy
dock
location
onto
the
boat,
then
there's
ada
access
for
the
program
itself.
B
Yeah,
so
so
compliance
with
the
florida
building
code
ada
would
allow
for
accommodations.
So
if
you
were
able
to
put
that
in
your
building
permit
application
that
you'll
provide
alternate
accommodations,
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
that
would
meet
the
code.
B
L
B
F
Okay,
all
right
is
everybody
satisfied
all
right
all
right,
so
we've
you've
agreed
to
the
modification
of
the
layout
of
the
doc
system.
Yes,
okay,
thank.
F
F
K
F
E
Yes,
this
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title:
only
a
resolution
of
the
city
of
puente
gorda
florida
granting
an
occupation
of
easement
to
robert
boom.
I
apologize
if
I
mispronounced
the
name
authorized
agent
for
tropicana,
usa,
llc
property
owner
authorizing
the
mayor
to
sign
the
occupation
of
easement
document
and
authorizing
the
city
clerk
to
record
the
occupation
of
eason
document.
B
B
It
is
a
public
benefit,
as
the
property
owner
will
now
be
responsible
for
all
the
maintenance
of
this
right
away.
This
is
an
occupation,
not
a
vacation.
The
city
can
require
removal
of
the
improvements
if
needed,
and
the
owner
would
be
responsible
for
all
the
cost
of
removal
and
restoring
the
property
back
to
its
original
configuration.
B
Orange
street
is
a
developed
street
from
west
william
to
west
mckenzie.
It's
an
undeveloped,
platted
right
away
from
west
mckinsey
to
grace,
and
it's
been
vacated
from
west
grace
to
west
henry.
So
it's
kind
of
like
right
in
the
middle
of
those
two
there's
a
proposed
development.
The
zoning
is
neighborhood
residential
15
units
per
acre.
B
We've
not
received
that,
yet
they
were
waiting
for
the
approval
of
the
occupation
of
eastman,
so
they
could
use
it
for
the
landscaping
storm
water
retention
and
parking
and
drc
recommended
approval
of
moving
it
forward
to
planning
commission
and
council
and
urban
design.
Zoning
staff
and
planning
commission
recommended
approval
of
the
occupation
of
easement.
F
B
But
they
would
have
to
meet
they'll
have
to
meet
any
storm
water
requirements
and
drainage
improvements.
I
think
there's
a
main
stormwater
drain
along
west
grace
there,
so
they
they're
going
to
have
to
meet
all
the
requirements
from
public
works,
engineering
for
any
storm
water
retention
and
drainage.
Okay,.
K
This
sounds
like
a
dumb
question,
but
obviously
this
hasn't
been
developed
yet
correct,
okay
and
if
it's
appropriate.
I
know-
we've
talked
about
this
with
other
items
that
have
come
before
us,
but
is
there
a
clause
that
we
can
put
in
there
that
this?
If
this
were
to
be
approved,
that
this
only
goes
with
the
current
ownership
and
if
it
would
be
sold
without
already
making
these
improvements,
that
it
would
not
go
with
the
sale.
E
Part
of
the
question:
can
we
restrict
it
to
the
present
owner.
E
I'm
concerned,
because
normally
things
of
this
nature
do
run
with
the
land,
so
if,
if
the
property
was
sold
and
the
use
remained
the
same
and
the
subsequent
purchaser
maintains
so
that
part
I
don't
have
concerns
about,
but
if
the
purpose
of
the
occupation
of
the
easement
is
not
accomplished
by
the
present
owner
and
then
sells
it
for
some
other
purpose,
I
think
we
can
make
a
condition
that
if
that
purpose
is
not
brought
into
fruition,
then
the
occupation
of
easement
would
terminate.
K
B
B
I
believe
it's
in
there
that
we
give
them
a
time
frame
of
24
months,
so
we
can
sunset
it
if
the
they
could
come
back
and
ask
for
an
extension
due
to
circumstances.
We
had
that
with
o'reilly's
we
did
an
occupation
of
easement,
they
used
it
for
parking
and
used
it
for
storm
water.
Theirs
was
to
be
constructed
within
12
months.
They
came
back
and
amended
it
for
an
additional
12
months
on
this
one.
B
E
E
So
if
you
adopt
the
the
request,
that
condition
is
already
part
of
the
your
decision.
F
So
that
occupation
of
easement
will
go
away
at
on
that
sunset
date
if
it
hasn't
been
commenced,
that
is
correct,
correct,
okay,
I
was
going
to
ask
the
very
same
question
because
we've
been
dealing
with
some
of
these
situations
and
in
this
particular
property
owner
this
same
person
has
come
to
us
for
three
other
projects
that
have
never
come
to
fruition,
and
I'm
very
concerned
that
we
keep
changing
zoning
classifications
or
rededicating
and
re-platting
and
doing
all
these
things
and
nothing
ever
happens.
F
The
henry
street
property
is
one
of
them
that
was
supposed
to
be
built
with
affordable
housing.
That
was
three
four
years
ago.
We've
we
approved
that
I
understand
covet
happened,
but
that
project
would
have
been
an
immensely
important
project
to
the
city
for
affordable
housing
and
we
were
all
for
it.
We
pushed
that
project
forward
when
we
voted
on
it.
It's
never
happened.
F
The
whipperwell
triangle
is
another
one
same
owner
same
person,
that's
proposing
this,
and
now
it's
rezoned
for
three
houses
been
for
sale
for
three
lots
have
been
for
sale
for
almost
six
months
and
they're
still
for
sale.
So
I'm
just
concerned
that
we're
making
all
these
changes
to
zoning
and
going
jumping
through
hoops
and
nothing
is
happening
so
I'm
inclined
to
say
we
definitely
need
to
have
a
sunset
date
on
an
approval
if
we
move
it
forward.
D
To
that
point
I
agree
with
the
sunset
date,
and
I
don't
know
if
12
months
is
too
long,
but
I'd
like
to
see
a
clause
put
in
there,
that
they
can
get
one
extension
and
that's
it
because
if,
if
you
don't,
if
they
can
keep
extending
and
extending
and
extending
you
put
in,
you
put
a
sunset
data
in
there,
it
really
doesn't
mean
anything.
So
I
would
say
I
would
be
in
favor
of
12
months
with
one
extension,
one
12
months
extension
for
a
total
of
24
months
and
that's
it.
E
It
does
not
appear
to
be
anything
that
would
require
that
to
be
accomplished
within
a
particular
time
frame,
and
so
maybe
you
might
want
to
put
something
similar
to
you
know
whatever.
How,
however
amount
of
time
you
would
want
to
give
them
to
ensure
that
the
upland
property
is
developed
for
the
purpose
for
which
the
city
granted
the
occupation
of
easement,
and
if
it
wasn't
constructed
within
that
time
frame,
then
two
the
occupation
of
easement,
would
terminate.
E
So
I
would
say
something
like:
oh
you
fill
in
the
blank,
but
if
the,
if
the,
if
the
grantee
fails
to
develop
the
property
for
residential
development
within
blank
months,
then
the
occupation
of
easement
shall
automatically
terminate.
D
E
Well,
the
only
problem
with
commence
development
is,
then
you
run
into
a
legal
battle
as
what
constitutes
commencement
of
development.
I've
I've
seen
where
the
argument
was
that
simply
clearing
the
upland
of
vegetation
to
facilitate
development
would
would
constitute
commencement
of
development.
So
that's
what
I'm
saying
give
give
the
the
the
applicant
enough
time
that
you
think
is
is
reasonable
to
to
complete
the
development
and,
if
the
development's
not
completed,
then
the
that
it
would
terminate.
D
That
I
I
would,
I
would
argue
that
that
would
be
really
tough
for
us
to
do
not
being
construction
professionals
and
given
the
current
environment
and
everything
else.
So
I
would
define
construct,
commence
construction
as
pouring
footings.
They
pour
footings.
That's
commenced,
I
mean
they're,
that's
more
than
the
land.
E
A
J
E
And
it's
been
sold,
it
would
terminate
anyway
within
24
months
and.
E
Okay,
so
if,
if
if
you
approve,
if
you
approve
the
occupation
of
the
easement
with
those
conditions,
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
amend
the
occupation
of
easement
document
and
and
bring
it
not
necessarily
back
for
approval,
but
for
signatures
of
the
the
mayor
with
the
corrected
language.
F
Okay,
thank
you,
sir
okay,
so
we.
F
F
F
Our
agreement
with
the
county
is
only
until
october
30th,
at
which
point
chennai
will
have
their
own
agreement
directly
with
the
county.
That's
correct!
Okay,
all
right,
good,
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
the
regular
agenda.
First
item
is
safe
streets
for
all,
grant
applications,
charlotte
county
punta
gorda,
metropolitan
planning,
organization,
presentation
and
letter
of
support
request.
B
I
have
the
pleasure
this
morning
to
introduce
dejuan
harris
he's
the
charlotte
county,
poneglor
metropolitan
planning
organization
organization,
mpo
director
he's
here
to
give
us
a
presentation
on
the
safe
streets
for
all
grant
program
opportunity
and
he
will
be
requesting
the
city
support
for
joint,
comprehensive
safety
action
plan
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
do.
One.
M
Excited
to
be
here
to
give
you
guys
an
overview
of
the
safe
streets
and
rose
for
all
discretionary
grant
program.
I
am
like,
with
my
stated,
I
am
the
staff
director
of
the
charlotte
county,
gordon
metropolitan
planning
organization,
and
we
will
be
taking
the
lead
on
seeking
to
develop
a
comprehensive
safety
action
plan
for
charlotte
county.
M
So
the
eligible
applicants
for
the
federal
grant
program
are
mpos
of
governmental
entities,
federally
recognized
tribal
entities
and
eligible
tasks.
You
can
do
with
the
grant
money,
you
can
develop
a
comprehensive
safety
action
plan
and
you
can
also
design
and
construct
capital
improvement
transportation
projects.
M
However,
the
usdot
requires
that
you
have
a
comprehensive
safety
action
plan
in
place
first,
before
going
after
design
and
construction
implementation
dollars,
and
that's
where
the
npo
is
going
to
come
in
we're
going
to
take
the
lead
on
seeking
grant
application
dollars
for
comprehensive
safety
action
plans
for
the
county,
and
we
will
also
utilize
one
of
our
gpcs
to
develop
the
comprehensive
safety
action
plan
for
the
county.
M
M
The
npo
has
got
some
preliminary
estimates
on
what
it
will
cost
for
a
preliminary
for
a
action
plan,
and
our
estimates
are
coming
in
at
about
150
000
to
about
300
000,
so
worst
case
scenario,
the
local
match
will
be
about
60
000
and
the
county
has
graciously
agreed
to
provide
that
that
match
already.
So.
M
This
next
slide
gives
a
very
detailed
definition:
the
united
states
department
of
transportation's
definition
of
what's
required
for
a
comprehensive
safety
action
plan.
You
can
just
think
of
a
action
plan
as
a
vision,
zero
or
a
target
zero
action
plan
with
the
ultimate
goal
of
reducing
serious
injuries
and
eliminating
fatalities
on
local
roads
and
roadways.
I
F
I
I'm
sorry
we
do
have
the
letter
attached
for
your
review
and
we
appreciate
you
being
here
to
present
this.
Thank
you
always
good
to
see.
F
We
will
have
someone
from
our
public
works
staff,
be
a
part
of
that
committee
when
those
meetings
take
place,
so
we're
all
prepared
to
to
weigh
in
on
this
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
F
Next,
we
have
the
award
agreement
to
poole
and
kent
company
of
miami
florida
for
construction
improvements.
Shell
creek
filter
media
replacement.
B
Good
morning,
julie,
rogan
stutter
for
the
record
procurement
issued
an
invitation
to
bid
for
shell
creek
construction
improvements
to
for
media
replacement
project
over
at
the
water
treatment
plant.
Solicitation
notices
were
sent
to
754
vendors
17
viewed
the
solicitation
online
and
the
city
received
two
responses.
However,
one
of
those
responses
received
was
rejected.
B
The
total
lump
sum
cost
for
this
project
is
is
395
878.82
cents
and
the
project
timeline
for
completion
is
210
consecutive
calendar
days.
Staff
is
recommending
award
of
this
agreement
to
paul
and
kent
company
of
miami
florida
as
being
the
lowest
responsible
responsible,
better.
J
B
We
release
the
bid,
the
department
sets
out
criteria
for
qualification,
minimum
qualifications
and
experience
level
that
they're
for
expectations
for
the
project
we
send
these
out.
The
bidders
are
to
provide
references
we
reach
out
to
references,
which
is
why
one
of
the
bidders
was
disqualified
because
they
were
not
qualified
and
the
one
that
we
did
was
very
much
qualified.
I
F
F
Okay,
excuse
me,
so
we
need
a
motion
to
approve
I'll
make
a
motion.
F
F
I
N
N
Yep,
so
we're
going
to
start
with
the
utilities,
construction
fund
and
the
utilities,
operating
maintenance
and
repair
fund.
N
So
you'll
see
that
some
of
the
funding
comes
from
transfers
from
our
operating
fund,
which
is
use
of
our
revenues
and
our
reserves
for
those
projects.
We
do
transfers
from
water
impacts
and
waste
water
impacts
for
certain
projects
for
the
septic
consumer
project.
We
do
have
estimated
grants
in
there
of
approximately
25
for
the
financing.
Again,
our
estimated
financing
is
based
on
our
estimated
cost
of
projects,
so
we
have
for
septic
to
sewer
out
in
the
fiscal
year
26
through
27
in
fiscal
year
2023.
N
We
budget
this
much
every
year
from
specifically
from
transfers
from
the
operating
funds,
because
they're
continually
moving
forward,
then
we
go
on
to
our
wastewater
projects
and
I'm
not
going
to
read
over
every
project,
but
I
will
point
out
any
new
projects
in
anyone
that
has
had
a
change,
so
we
did
already
discuss
septic
to
sewer
that
one
has
been
pushed
out,
so
we
want
to
do
keep
it
in
our
plan.
We
continue
to
look
for
grant
funds.
N
N
N
So
we
did
need
to
move
that
project
forward,
other
projects
that
are
on
here
that
you
might
not
see
any
funds
for
the
out
years,
it's
just
because
those
projects
are
in
progress
and
in
continuing
so
we
do
like
to
keep
those
in
front
of
you
as
well.
N
Another
one
I
want
to
mention
is
the
wastewater
treatment,
plant
improvement,
and
even
though
that
has
been
a
project
on
our
books,
the
cost
has
increased
since
the
last
time.
We
brought
it
to
you,
so
we
did
want
to
point
that
out
as
well.
N
J
I
I
J
N
Move
on
to
our
water
projects,
so
I'll
just
point
out
some
of
the
big
ones
or
any
new
ones
that
are
on
there,
but
the
carbon
slurry
system
replacement
has
been
in
our
plan.
So
we
have
the
design
and
engineering
starting
in
fiscal
year
25
with
construction
in
fiscal
year,
26.
N
N
Everything
else
solana,
water,
main
replacement,
upgrade.
That
was
a
project
that
was
moved
out
a
year
bell,
harbor
water
main
replacement.
That
was
in
our
in
last
year's
plan
in
fiscal
year
26
it
was
moved
up,
so
there
was
a
need
determined
that
we
really
need
to
get
working
on
that
particular
project.
I
N
N
So
again,
this
is
our
five
year
pro
forma
and
we'll
go
over
all
the
assumptions
that
went
into
the
pro
forma,
but
I
will
just
start
with
talking
about
the
reserves
and
showing
that
we
do
have
plan
use
of
reserves
for
our
five-year
capital
improvement
plan.
So
that's
where
you
see
your
transfers
for
the
replacement
of
infrastructure,
as
well
as
other
utilities,
construction
projects-
you
do
see
that
by
fiscal
year
27
we
are
still
maintaining
our
minimum
reserve
of
3.1
million
and
we
do
have
our
r
r
capital
reserve
of
1.5
million.
I
And
remember
on
all
these
funds,
when
you
build
reserves
many
times
that's
so
you
can
plan
the
use
of
them
and
still
maintain
your
target
so
that
you
can
transfer
that
to
things
such
as
capital
projects
or
emergency
replacements
that
come
up
during
the
course
of
the
year,
et
cetera.
N
I
think
the
important
thing
to
know
about
that,
just
as
the
city
manager
was
pointing
out,
is
that
you
wouldn't
want
to
have
to
have
spike
increases
for
your
residents
when
you
did
get
to
a
year
where
you
had
to
have
a
large
capital
improvement.
So
that
is
a
reason
why
we
do
plan
user
reserves
as
well.
N
N
We
in
our
last
year's
plan.
We
did
have
it
at
two
percent,
but
with
the
increased
costs
in
the
projects,
we
do
need
to
increase
that
to
the
3.7
as
recommended
fiscal
year
23
through
27,
we
do
have
estimated
growth,
a
half
percent,
and
then
we
use
averages
for
the
consumption
of
the
water,
because
again
that
can
be
very
volatile
and
so
based
on
rainfall
and
other
factors
that
we
kind
of
talk
about
later.
On
a
later
slide.
N
Fiscal
year
23-27,
our
water
impact
fee
transfer,
is
for
about
50
of
our
debt
service
on
our
ro
project
in
fiscal
year
25
through
fiscal
year
27.
We
do
start
using
wastewater
impacts
for
partial
debt
service,
on
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
expansion
project
and
that's
at
about
25
percent
fiscal
year
27.
N
N
The
annual
cost
for
that
position
is
estimated
approximately
fifty
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
then
our
wastewater
collection
division
requested
two
utility
maintenance
worker
positions
to
help
with
increased
workload,
annual
costs,
approximately
114
000.,
all
the
other
personnel
estimates
are
the
same
as
we've
been
using
through
all
our
performance
that
we've
talked
about
in
the
past.
So
if
you're,
okay
with
that,
I
won't
read
them
all
again.
Thank
you.
N
It
is
important
to
note
that
computer
overhead
and
admin
charges
are
still
estimates
that
three
percent.
We
do
a
final
calculation
and
we'll
do
that
after
this
final
meeting
and
we've
gone
over
all
the
budgets
to
allocate
appropriately
based
on
all
positions
approved
as
well
as
budgets
approved,
general
liability
still
has
an
estimated
increase
of
five
percent.
We
have
not
received
our
quotes
for
that.
Yet
in
the
future
years
we
just
use
a
three
percent
factor
for
operating
expenses,
except
for
general
liability
at
five
percent.
N
So
the
items
of
note
are
that
electricity.
It
increased
approximately
15
percent,
based
on
the
fpl
rates
of
january
1
of
2022
fuel
costs
are
based
on
the
current
rates,
approximately
five
dollars
per
gallon
and
again
these
divisions
use
some
diesel
and
some
unleaded.
So
that's
why
we
use
the
average
chemical
costs
have
increased
approximately
54
percent
this
year,
so
that
was
a
big
hit
for
the
fund
at
them.
N
N
N
Other
assumptions
are
that
again
we
continue
to
use
our
current
revenue
and
operating
reserves
to
transfer
to
our
five-year
capital
improvement
plan.
The
estimated
debt
service
on
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
is
currently
the
state
revolving
funds
estimated
debt
service
for
the
water
treatment
plant.
Filtration
project
is
bank
financing
at
15
years
and
we
do
assume
an
increase
in
the
required
state
revolving
fund
loan
reserves
because
they
usually
ask
us
for
one
year's
estimated
payments.
N
N
That
does
give
us
we'd
like
to
keep
that
in
case
of
our
debt
financing
or
if
we
do
go
back
out
for
bonds,
we'll
already
have
that
established
as
well
or
for
emergencies.
N
N
We
are
still
awaiting
our
pain
classification
study,
so
any
results
from
that
are
not
currently
added
into
the
pro
forma,
but
we
would,
for
the
final
proposed,
we're
going
to
probably
put
in
a
certain
estimated
amount
under
non-departmental.
N
I
N
Review
of
the
filtration
project
again
is
ongoing
for
an
alternative
and
also
we'll
look
at
the
debt
service
on
that
particular
item
once
they
do
have
the
alternative.
Maybe
we
can
do
a
20-year
bank
loan
instead
of
a
15-year
blank
loan,
it's
more
common
for
15,
but
it's
not
unheard
of
for
20
years.
So
we
can
try
that
and
stretch
the
payments
out
again
we
talked
about
the
subject
to
sewer
moving
out.
So
again
we
need
grants
for
that
projects
to
move
forward.
So
we
continue
to
look
for
grants.
N
N
I
And
it
does
sound
somewhat
counterintuitive,
but
we
were
fortunate
to
be
able
to
reduce
the
increase
to
two
percent
last
year,
even
though
it
was
recommended
at
3.75
and
maintain
it
at
3.75,
based
on
the
consultant's
recommendation
that
was
over
a
year
ago,
given
the
increased
cost
we
have.
So
we
worked
hard
to
make
sure
we
could
still
stay
within
the
recommendations
that
were
given
to
you
over
a
year
ago
by
the
consultant.
D
Okay,
a
couple
questions
sure
three
things.
First
of
all,
thanks
for
addressing
the
reserves
in
such
detail,
because
that's
always
the
very
first
thing
I
look
at
when
I
look
at
these
performers
is
what's
happening
with
the
reserves.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
the
fact
that
these
are
planned
user
reserves
and
that
we're
still
above
you
know
our
minimum
threshold
at
the
end
of
the
plan.
That's
all
good
second
thing
is-
and
I
know
I
already
told
you
this
the
other
day
but
I'll
just
reiterate
it
for
the
benefit
of
everybody.
D
When
we
start
talking
about
extending
terms
on
these
loans,
I
would
be
very
very
very
careful
about
that.
It's
a
quick,
easy
way
to
make
things
look
good
today,
but
all
we're
doing
is
pushing
out
the
risk
and
something
could
happen
down
the
road
and
we
wind
up
getting
ourselves
into
a
much
bigger
problem
financially
later
on.
D
So
I
would
just
say:
let's
be
real
careful
about
extending
terms,
and
then
the
last
thing
is
is
something
new
that
came
up
with
my
group
regarding
the
personnel
in
the
utility
area,
and
that
is
you
know,
we've
had
and
we're
having
ongoing
and
continuing
issues
with
this
drop
counter
thing,
which
is
requiring
staff
to
manually.
Read
these
meters
more
and
more
frequently.
D
N
Yes,
so,
for
that
is
the
reason
needed
one
of
the
reasons
and
one
of
the
main
reasons
needed
for
the
additional
staff
member.
N
N
That's
especially
the
reading
part
of
it
like
because
if
there's
some
conversation,
then
the
the
thing
doesn't
read
right,
and
so
they
have
to
go
manually.
Read
that
if
we
don't
know
what's
difficult
in
our
community
is
we
do
have
a
lot
of
seasonal
residents
so
as
much
as
they
try
to
look
for
those
zero
reads.
I
J
I
D
D
N
I
N
N
N
N
So
we'll
go
over
the
assumptions
as
we
move
forward
so
fiscal
year,
23
is
balanced.
There's
no
change
in
fees
proposed.
N
N
This
position
is
required
due
to
high
volume
level
of
building
permits,
requiring
additional
support
staff
for
permitting
intake
and
issuance
record
requests,
filing
scanning
inspection,
scam,
scheduling
and
general
phone
inquiries.
I
N
And
then
the
rest
of
the
personal
estimates
for
existing
employees
are
listed
there
operating
estimates
are
per
departmental
request
and
again
they're
the
same
as
we
talked
about
for
utilities.
So
I'm
not
going
to
reread
those,
but
the
items
of
note
that
are
over
the
3
percent
increase
are
contractual
service,
59
000
for
the
specific
discipline
needs,
and
when
I
say
discipline
I
mean
those
are
like
the
types
of
inspections,
so
whether
it's
electrical
or
framing,
that
kind
of
thing
that
may
arise
as
newer
staff
continues
to
train
there.
N
The
fuel
based
is
on
current
rates,
which
is
an
increase
of
approximately
seven
thousand
and
trading
and
travel
increase
for
approximately
19
000
for
new
and
existing
employees
and
again
we're
trying
to
have
our
employees
get
certified
in
additional
disciplines
so
that
they
have
cross
training
and
things
like
that.
I
N
The
capital
side,
the
division,
has
requested
a
new
vehicle
as
a
pool
vehicle
and
a
replacement
of
a
2005
pickup
truck
for
a
total
of
50
000
between
the
two
vehicles.
They've
also
requested
digital
plans
review
software.
Current
estimates,
85
000.
there
might
be
some
annual
costs,
but
until
they
choose
which
particular
program,
it
was
hard
to
estimate
what
that
would
be.
I
And
again,
when
we
talk
about
peak
building,
review
demands,
if
we
have
the
digital
software
ability-
and
we
need
to
use
some
of
the
contract
money
so
that
we
can
ship
that
off
to
someone
for
preliminary
reviews,
get
it
back,
do
the
finals
et
cetera
instead
of
having
to
staff
up
to
do
it
all
in-house?
That
saves
us
ultimately,
and
it
helps
us
accommodate
peak
demands,
as
opposed
in
just
playing
for
the
average,
as
opposed
to
having
to
up
staff,
and
then
staff
reduce
staff.
When
the
peak
is
passed.
I
G
F
N
And
again
we
do
try
to
budget
conservatively
based
on
what
we're
seeing
for
building
permit
revenue.
So
some
years
you
do
see
more
revenue
actually
come
in
then
we've
budgeted
so
but.
F
N
So
on
the
marina
fund,
you
can
see
revenues
versus
expenditures
and
again
we
are
kind
of
dipping
into
reserves.
So
you
do
see
in
fiscal
year,
27
we're
a
little
a
little
low
there.
So
we
will
start
looking
at
changing
fees
at
some
point
during
this
five-year
look,
probably
not
in
fiscal
year
23
but
maybe
24-25,
we'll
start
looking
at
that.
I
And
we
know
these
reserves
are
low
at
27.,
we're
still,
okay,
24,
25
and
even
26,
so
by
then
we'll
have
a
fee
proposal
back
to
council
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
that
goes
the
other
direction
as
we
move
forward.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
all
the
marina
repairs
complete
and
we
have
everything
shuffled
around,
given
the
liveaboards
et
cetera,
so
that
we
can
then
make
that
presentation
be
accurate
with
our
numbers.
Okay,.
N
The
performer
does
include
estimates
for
grants
for
the
operations
of
the
pump
out
bow.
Currently
we
have
been
getting
them
every
year.
If,
at
some
point
we
didn't
get
them,
we
would
have
to
add
you
know
we
would
have
to
fund
that
we
do
have
the
continuation
for
the
repair
and
maintenance
of
the
mooring
fields
and
docks
at
60
000
per
year
in
all
those
years
and
for
the
dredging
needs
we
do
put
in
25
000
per
year
and
through
fiscal
year
2022
we
have
accumulated
approximately
ninety
five
thousand,
both
of
these
line
items.
J
N
Yes,
so
we
have,
we
have
funds
set
aside
right
now
for
the
repair
of
the
three
docks
at
the,
which
is
more
than
sixty
thousand.
You.
I
When
you
say
we,
we've
had
contractors
that
we've
solicited
we're
under
contract,
we're
waiting
for
them
to
get
on
site.
So
it's
not
that
the
work
is
languishing
on
our
end.
That's
that
we're
getting
contractors
and
materials
and
we're
waiting
for
that
to
get
it
complete,
for
example,
the
finger
piers.
I
mean,
we've
been
probably
closing
here,
trying
to
get
those
repaired
and
had
to
be
redesigned.
Then
it
had
to
be
rebid.
Then
we
had
the
contractor
and
now
we're
waiting
on
final
repair
for
that
so
and.
I
N
So
we
do
have
a
hundred
thousand
set
aside
for
the
engineering
construction
of
the
concrete,
sidewalk
repair
and
again
that's
the
one-
that's
not
quite
complete,
because
when
they
did
go
out
there
to
just
look
at
the
sidewalk
is
when
they
also
found
the
they
happen,
to
see
the
pier
and
see
that
there's
some
needs
there.
The
pier
itself
is
not
part
of
the
marina,
so
we
would
have
to
find
other
funding
sources
for
the
pier
and
then
we
do
have
capital
outlay
of
6000
per
year
for
small
replacements
of
equipment
as
needed.
I
Let
me
further
answer
your
question
too,
just
because
some
of
the
peters
that
we're
waiting
to
replace
are
ones
that,
through
the
wave
action,
some
of
the
hurricanes
and
bigger
storms
have
more
than
once
twisted
those
finger
piers
so
that
they're
unusable
to
actually
more
boats
in
the
slips.
So
those
whole
piers
need
to
be
replaced
and
the
second
phase
of
that
is
actually
putting
in
pilings
to
hold
them
in
place.
So
they
don't
twist
anymore.
So
there
needs
to
be
as
they
float.
I
There
needs
to
be
new
connections
that
were
engineered,
complete
removal
of
the
existing
and
replacement
and
then
a
re-engineering
of
how
they're
stabilized.
So
it
doesn't
happen
again
in
the
future,
because
it's
happened
several
times
and
it's
time
to
fix
that
once
and
for
all.
So
that's
what
we're
doing
with
replacement
of
the
ones
that
have
been
twisting.
D
Regarding
the
floating
docks,
so
do
we
have
an
inspection
cycle
or
procedure
to
get
divers
under
there
periodically
and
actually
assess
the
condition
of
the
floating
docks,
because
there's
maintenance,
this
and
and
lifespan
expectancies
reap
on
those.
You
know
as
well
and
I'm
kind
of
thinking
about.
We
got
surprised
with
the
fishing
pier
and
what
condition
it
was
in
and
I'm
hoping
we
don't
get
surprised
by
the
condition
of
our
floating
docks.
F
J
F
N
This
is
in
anticipation
of
the
paying
classification
study
he's
requesting
a
five
percent
increase
to
each
general
employee
pay
grade
in
each
current
general
employee,
beginning
august
1
2022.,
the
citywide
cost
for
two
months
is
estimated
at
approximately
125
000,
with
the
general
fund
estimated
at
64
000..
I
So
let
me
explain
the
issue
with
this
is
that
we
knew
we're
having
the.
F
I
We're
turned
up,
we
know
we're
having
the
evergreen
consultant
analysis
that
should
be
back
anytime,
but
we've
gotten
some
preliminary
numbers
and
we
know
that
we're
going
to
be
substantially
in
excess
of
five
percent.
So
the
issue
that
we're
trying
to
address
right
now
is
not
just
how
much
does
it
need
to
increase
but
what's
happening
currently
so,
for
example,
for
the
last
12
months,
we've
lost
almost
20
percent
of
our
workforce
and
that's
not
through
anyone
that
was
terminated
or
anyone
that
resigned
et
cetera.
I
This
is
20
percent
of
the
workforce
that
has
left
invariably
for
other
jobs
that
pay
more,
have
defined
benefits
and
because
you
can
see
where
people
live,
87
outside
the
city,
they're
driving
through
all
the
other
governmental
and
private
organizations
that
have
vacancies
have
been
paying
higher,
are
closer
to
home.
So
automatically
has
a
cost
savings
and
have
benefits
that
the
city
doesn't
offer.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
currently
have
that
we're
trying
to
address
is
33
openings
that
still
remain
out
of
that.
I
So
we
have
33
positions
that
are
currently
not
filled,
which
is
why
you
see
sometimes
a
reduction
in
surface
you've.
Seen
that
the,
for
example,
the
yard
waste
hasn't
been
picked
up
or
even
sometimes
trash
is
missed.
There
were
different
things
because
we're
pulling
people
out
of
other
departments
to
try
to
fill
the
critical
needs
so
that
we
can
actually
maintain
a
level
of
service.
That's
acceptable.
I
So
when
we
look
at
back
to
2018,
taking
the
last
two
times
that
we've
had
bargaining
for
the
union
groups
and
we've
talked
about
pay
studies
for
the
non-union
employees,
even
in
2018,
although
the
base
pay
went
up,
the
general
employees
got
three
percent,
which
is
standard.
Three
four
percent
pay
increase
and
if
they
were
below
the
bottom
of
the
new
scale,
they
would
have
been
moved
to
that,
but
the
general
employees
still
just
got
to
a
three
percent
increase
inversely.
I
When
we
look
at
the
other
groups
that
have
been
brought
up
from
the
base,
they
still
get
their
four
percent
increase
annual
average
and
if
it's
a
fire,
for
example,
they
get
their
three
and
three.
So
they
have
additional
increases.
Also,
the
general
employees
have
not
had
that
benefit
or
latitude.
I
We've
even
had
some
and
it's
the
whole
way
through
the
scale
we've
had
some
that
have
said
yep
I'd
like
to
take
that
job,
and
then
they
call
back
and
say
no
because
there's
another
one,
just
like
at
the
base
three
dollars
an
hour
or
more
and
it's
closer
than
home.
So
we
know
that's
a
real
issue.
I
All
our
exit
interviews
show
that
the
interviews
with
the
consultant
show
that
we
also
knew
that
when
the
consultant
interviewed
various
employees,
the
feedback
that
they
got
was
that
previously
there
was
a
pension
plan
that
helped
attract
and
retain
employees.
We
don't
have
that
now
for
the
newer
general
employees.
I
Compensation
was
also
one
of
the
big
issues
that
said
salaries
are
not
competitive
right
now,
which
is
one
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
address
and
you'll
hear
more
about
through
the
budget
process
that
some
staff
members
are
currently
capped.
So
when
we
talk
about
changing
the
whole
grade,
we're
talking
about
the
grades
that
are
minimum
and
maximum
of
the
grades
move
up.
I
So
if
you
have
people
here
that
are
some
of
our
most
experienced
people
that
are
top
of
the
grade,
they
are
not
able
to
move
up
in
that
grade
anymore
because
they're
capped
there.
So
what
do
they
do
if
they
need
more
money
with
the
current
grades,
the
way
they're
structured
as
they
look
elsewhere,
so
with
moving
this
up,
it
does
give
somewhere
else
to
go.
We
also
have
the
15
an
hour
issue,
while
that's
not
technically
required
for
several
years,
we're
in
the
low
13s
right
now
for
a
minimum.
I
When
we
look
at
five
percent
increase
and
then
additional
presentations
for
october
first,
it
gets
us
up
to
right
below
15
in
the
high
14s
and
we'd
like
to
bring
that
minimum
up
to
15
like
the
county
is
anticipating
doing
october
1st
also,
and
then
we
can
say
that
we
have
a
minimum
pay
of
15
an
hour.
One
of
the
problems
with
doing
that
now
is
that
we
have
people
that
are
close
to
that
15
an
hour.
I
So
while
we
don't
generally
have
an
overall
cost
of
living
increase
each
year,
what
we
do
have
to
do
for
cost
of
living
is
look
at
the
inflationary
impacts,
currently
even
fuel
for
the
87
percent,
or
even
the
ones
that
live
in
the
city,
what
it
requires
for
getting
to
work
as
they
drive
through
all
the
other
jurisdictions,
the
increasing
cost
for
everything
and
the
fact
that
we're
still
losing
employees.
We
lost
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
three
more
to
other
people
that
paid
more
had
similar
jobs
and
we're
closer
home.
I
I
That
is
tent
amount
to
part
of
the
overall
plan
and
our
staffing
plan
that
we
presented
last
year,
which
a
lot
of
the
positions
you're
seeing
are
staffing.
But
it
doesn't
matter
how
many
you
approve
if
we
can't
fill
them.
So
we
still
are
reducing
those
services
where
we
want
to
be
able
to
maintain
the
service
level
and
show
employees
that,
of
course,
just
like
the
other
groups
that
we've
currently
negotiated
in
the
last
year.
I
Fire
police
general
employees
that
this
is
the
third
facet
of
the
overall
employee
base
and
the
relationship
we
have
as
far
as
making
sure
that
they
have
competitive
salaries.
That
we
can
attract
and
maintain
our
good
employees
so
that
we
can
provide
the
services
necessary
for
the
city
to
continue
to
move
forward.
So
that's
why
this
portion
of
our
overall
staffing
plan,
knowing
that
it's
something
that
would
be
proposed
october
1st
and
that's
why
we
kept
it
at
a
minimum,
because
everything
that
would
be
proposed
through
our
consultant
plan
would
be
higher
than
this.
I
I
Really
I
can
go
on
if
you
like,
but
but
that's
the
the
premise
behind
it.
It's
really
just
to
the
third
facet
of
our
employee
base
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
something
that
helps
you
know
our
my
responsibility
is
to
make
sure
the
city
runs
efficiently,
and
we
just
can't
do
it
with
the
staffing
levels
and
the
abilities
that
we
have
to
attract
and
retains
that
we're
trying
to
make
sure
we
offset
that
with
something.
That's
reasonable
and
allows
us
to
have
greater
efficiencies.
F
Do
that
you're
going
to
want
approval
for
each
of
the
individual
funds
correct.
N
I
It
would
be
appropriate
for
an
overall
approval,
even
including
this,
because
the
general
fund
pro
forma,
does
include
this
five
percent
in
it
for
next
year
and
we
can
show
how
that's
funded,
and
you
know
that
we're
in
a
good
financial
place,
moving
the
city
forward
in
a
very
positive
method.
Right
now,.
N
So
we
did
want
to
give
you
a
few
updates.
Health
insurance
rates
did
come
in,
they
came
in
at
six
percent
increase,
which
was
our
estimate,
so
there's
no
change
needed
there
again,
our
we
have
a
police
negotiations
ongoing
the
paying
classification
studies
ongoing.
N
We
have
some
additional
requests
and
updates,
so
we
do
have
funds
for
the
city,
council,
training,
travel
and
community
events,
as
have
been
requested,
a
certain
amount
per
member
we
did
originally
put
in
three
thousand
per
member,
which
would
be
an
increase
of
approximately
four
thousand
six
hundred
and
five
dollars.
F
F
My
personal
feeling
is
that
3
000
is
not
going
to
be
sufficient
because
once
council
members
do
start
actually
going
out
in
the
community
and
doing
all
the
events
and
also
using
that
that
fund
for
any
of
the
travel
that
has
to
happen
to
go
to
whether
it
be
tallahassee
or
florida,
league
of
cities,
meetings
or
training
conferences
or
anything
like
that,
I'm
just
not
sure
3000
is
going
to
be
enough
and
when
I
compare
it
to
northport
who
gets
9
600
per
council
member,
I
think
I
think
we're
drastically
far
apart.
J
F
C
D
F
F
I
will
personally
plan
on
going
to
other
events
that
I
have
not
gone
to
in
past
years,
because
we
didn't
have
the
approval
to
do
so,
and
you
know
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
anything,
that's
a
partisan
type
event
would
not
be
covered
and
anything
that
is
not
an
official
a
city
appointment
would
not
be
covered,
but
even
still
you
know
that
that's
going
to
be
the
bare
minimum.
F
Really
the
bare
minimum
that
I
just
don't
know
is
sufficient
and
I
would
hate
to
have
a
council
member
have
to
come
to
the
council
and
ask
for
more
money
for
their
for
their
own
personal
budget.
If
they're
going
to
meetings,
especially
if
you
get
involved
in
something
like
florida
league
of
cities-
and
I
know
back
when
rachel
was
a
member,
she
was
going
to
all
kinds
of
things
and
it
cost
money.
F
I
mean,
there's
no
doubt
about
it
and
that
and
actually
she
was
the
first
person
that
actually
started
reaching
out
and
getting
involved
in
that
particular
organization.
But
it's
a
very
important
organization
to
the
big
picture
of
how
the
city
is
is
portrayed
to
the
rest
of
the
state
and
all
the
other
cities
in
the
state.
So
you
know,
there's
there's
lots
of
organizations
like
that
that,
and
especially
your
four-year
terms
are
approved.
F
N
I
N
I
Any
other
thing
I
would
mention
is
for
consideration
southwest
florida.
Many
things
that
are
important
that
need
to
be
attended
are
not
close
because
we're
down
and
west
so
it
takes
a
lot
of
travel
and
part
of
increases
would
certainly
reflect
the
gas
prices
currently.
So
it's
not
just
because
you're
going
more
places
doing
more
things,
that's
part
of
it,
but
it's
also
because
costs
are
going
up
substantially
and
that's
everything
from
gas
to
hotel
rooms
so
well.
I
J
Another
thing,
too,
is
this
year:
the
last
you
know
my
my
three
years
on
council
haven't
really
been
indicative
of
the
way
it
usually
is
because
the
the
training
or
became
virtual.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
would
be
expected
to
do
as
newcomers
to
council.
J
You
know
my
first
training
was
in
jacksonville,
so
it's
not
like
you
know
you
just
go
to
fort
myers
for
these
things,
so
I
think.
J
J
But
you
know,
I
remember,
I
mean
lynn
and
I
went
to
the
florida
league
cities
conference
and
you
know
we
had
25
a
day
per
diem
for
food
yeah
and
the
breakfast
buffet
was
30
bucks
yeah.
So
it
was
like
you
know,
that's
not
gonna
work
but
yeah.
I
think
I
think
we
have
to
look
forward
and
I
don't
I
agree
with
lynn.
I
think
five
is
a
real
good
number.
F
N
And
the
auto
allowance
is
not
included
in
here,
but
mileage
is
violent.
F
I
N
N
The
next
one
was
a
charlotte
harbor
environmental
center
request
to
increase
the
city's
contribution
from
fifteen
thousand
to
twenty
thousand.
There
was
the
letter
that
was
included
in
the
agenda
item.
F
We've
been
working
on
the
budget
since
january
february
and
a
week
before
the
budget
hearing
discussion
we're
getting
a
request
for
an
increase
of
50
from
what
we're
currently
paying,
and
I
have
not
seen
any
benefit
from
this
money.
And
yet
last
year
we
caught
so
much
grief
for
going
from
8
500
to
15
000.
And
I
I
I'm
having
a
real
hard
time
supporting
this
personal
feeling
on
it.
L
Hello:
there,
council,
my
name,
is
michael
bednar,
hello
to
everyone
at
home.
Watching.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
for
hearing
this
proposal
for
a
budget
increase
last
year
was
the
first
time
that
we
had
submitted
for
a
budget
increase.
As
you
guys
know,
in
25
years,
the
previous
budget
allowance
was
actually
adjusted
so
that
it
would
represent
the
same
amount
that
was
committed
25
years
prior
adjusted
for
inflation.
L
So
that's
how
we
went
from
eight
and
a
half
to
15.,
so
we
were
just
trying
to
make
up
a
gap
that
had
as
we
continued
to
grow
the
contribution
and
the
partnership
had
remained
the
same
now.
I
know
that
you
all
are
aware
that
you
guys
are
founding
members,
along
with
charlotte
county,
the
school
district
and
when
the
park
was
built
35
years
ago,
primarily
at
the
behest
of
a
private
citizen's
large
contribution.
L
Those
board
seats
remain
today,
so
we
have
county
and
we
have
city
council
members
that
are
there.
They
get
a
chance
to
look
at
our
budget
every
single
year
and
review
it.
This
increase
from
15
to
20
represents
the
increase
in
growth
we've
experienced
over
the
last
year
again
maintaining
that
5
partnership.
L
L
We
make
miracles
by
rubbing
pennies
together
because
we
love
what
we
do
and
we
understand
how
important
it
is.
Our
community
is
rapidly
growing.
The
urbanization
is
something
that
we
know
to
expect
in
southwest
florida
and
more
and
more
people
will
turn
to
our
organization
for
a
green
place
to
get
away
to
it's
free
we've
continued
to
be
free
for
35
years.
Our
park,
in
that
same
time,
has
grown
from
less
than
20
000
acres
to
over
46
000
acres.
L
Some
of
the
free
programs
that
we
offer
include
guided
hikes
annual
lecture
series
with
speakers
brought
in
from
around
the
state
in
the
world.
Curated
films,
a
little
explorers
program,
that's
for
mom
and
tots.
That's
interactive,
kayak
tours
waiting
trips.
We
do
animal
encounters,
we
have
a
free,
exhibit
hall
with
tactile
interactive
exhibits,
including
fossils,
touch,
screens,
educational
toys
and
materials.
L
We
do
partnerships
with
the
aquatic
preserve
where
we
do
water
sampling
throughout
the
county
to
help
benefit
water
quality
monitoring.
We
are
now
the
campus
for
the
florida
master
naturalist
program.
We
offer
camps,
summer
camps,
winter
camps,
events
such
as
earth
day
trek
for
check
national
public
lands
day
and
more.
We
facilitate
with
garden
clubs
and
gardening
clinics
through
some
of
our
butterfly
and
pollinator
gardens.
We
offer
night
hikes
nighttime
waiting
trips
tours
to
the
shell
mound.
L
We
maintain
free
and
open
access
to
this
46
thousand
acres,
the
cost
to
mow
it.
The
cost
to
preserve
it
and
keep
it
available,
continues
to
go
up.
We're
not
looking
to
get
fat
here
on
the
public
dole,
we're
looking
to
maintain
free
and
open
access
to
the
citizens
of
this
community,
and
they
deserve
this.
Our
organization
is
smaller
and
far
less
funded
than
like
peer
organizations
in
the
surrounding
community,
as
we
continue
to
grow
by
leaps
and
bounds
in
this
community.
J
I
would
suggest
that
next
year
in
january,
you
ask
for
a
position
or
a
speech
on
the
agenda,
and
you
come
in
with
some
sort
of
a
powerpoint
presentation
showing
us
all
the
wonderful
things
you
do
so
that
when
we
are
back
in
january,
trying
to
figure
out
where
to
put
all
these
little
five
and
ten
thousand
dollars
is
that
people
are
asking
us
for.
We
know
it's
coming.
J
J
L
L
Instead,
our
attendance
has
grown
and
that's
in
large
part
due
to
the
fact
that
we've
been
able
to
bring
in
a
lot
of
outside
grant
funding
now
grant
funds
are
restricted
funds,
so
I
can't
use
them
to
pay
for
wood
boards,
gas
electricity,
but
what
I
can
do
is
bring
in
new
amenities,
and
we
have
done
that.
We're
in
the
process
of
completing
a
30,
000,
butterfly
sanctuary.
L
That's
something
that
the
community
has
shown
an
overwhelming
amount
of
support
for
a
brand
new
bird
blind
brought
to
us
by
the
peace,
river,
audubon
society
and
we've
got.
F
I'm
gonna
have
to
cut
you
off
sure
because
we're
on
a
tight
time
frame
here,
so
we're
going
to
continue
our
discussion
and
we'll
we'll
make
a
decision
based
on
what's
been
presented
so
far.
Thank.
I
I
What
was
proposed
here
that
wasn't
their
direct
salary?
That's
my
point
for
anyone,
that's
listening
sure
so,
and
secondly,
some
of
the
things
that
you
enumerated
as
the
council
person
said
last
year
when
we
had
this
discussion.
We
talked
about
and
we'll
talk
about
this
more
when
we
meet,
but
we
talked
about
showing
how
that
impacts,
the
community
directly
or
what
it
does
for
a
direct
constituency,
and
I
think,
having
something
like
that.
That's
proposed
up
front
that
we
can,
you
know,
discuss
more,
would
be
helpful.
Okay,.
L
I
F
We
started
budget
planning
in
january,
so
that's
when
we
need
to
be
hearing
from
people
who
are
going
to
be
asking
for
for
money
because
and
we're
not
going
to
put
in
automatic
escalator
clauses
in
a
contract
like
this.
So
you
know
it's
going
to
be
a
flat
amount
of
money
and
that's
what
it's
going
to
be,
but
I
guess
my
concern
is:
we
can't
just
get
a
request
for
additional
funding
a
week
before
we're
approving
the
budget.
That's
just
not.
It
doesn't
work
for
us.
So,
okay.
L
F
N
K
I
am,
I
am,
and
he
did
come
to
me
several
months
ago
and
kind
of
was
proposing
a
couple
different
things
of
you
know
how
he
could
present
to
the
city
and
we
kind
of
we
had
a
discussion,
and
I'd
said
that
you
know
he
just
one
one
of
the
proposals.
K
You
know
I
didn't
think
was
probably
going
to
be
the
best
interest,
so
we
kind
of
moved
to
if
he
did
want
to
ask
for
an
increase
and
he
needed
to
have
a
meeting
with
you
know
with
greg
and
and
come
to
us
with
a
definitive
amount.
I'm
not
100
sure
if
we
talked
about
timeline
or
not,
but
we
did
have
a
discussion.
This
has
been
a
few
months
ago.
K
I
think
I
even
told
him
in
our
conversation,
though,
that
my
concern
was
that
coming
to
the
city
last
year
with
such
an
increase
in
coming
back
one
year
later,
I
just
wasn't
sure
was
going
to
be
appropriate
just
because
we
have
so
many
other
things
infrastructure-wise
that
we
were
going
to
be
looking
at
in
the
budget,
but
obviously
he
was
welcome
to
submit
whatever
you
know
he
thought
would
be
would
be
appropriate.
K
But
again
I
had
stated
at
that
time
that
I
you
know,
I
just
didn't
think
that
probably
going
from
one
year
to
the
next
year
to
have
something
like
that
is
going
to
be
feasible.
For
you
know,
one
year
apart,
yeah.
C
No
I'm
in
support
of
this.
I
say
for
two
main
reasons:
one,
how
much
land
that
they
are
maintaining,
that
that
is
natural
land
and
two,
the
impact
on
the
children.
The
only
way
we're
gonna
have
a
sustainable
city
is
if
our
children
invest
in
the
environment
early,
and
I
think
that
the
the
work
that
they
do
to
access
every
you
know
as
many
children
as
possible.
This
is
of
direct
benefit
to
the
city
of
planet.
K
And
I
don't
I
don't
disagree.
I
do
know
that
they
have
different
summer
camps
and
everything
that
they
offer
too,
which
is
you
know
at
cost
to
the
children
that
go
and
they
do
have
other
fundraising
options
as
well.
So
it's
not
as
if
you
know
we
are
the
only
fundraiser
option
and
I
look.
F
At
it
from
a
different
aspect,
I
mean,
if
we're
looking
at,
that
kind
of
an
increase
for
something.
That's
a
peripheral
sort
of
a
cause.
We've
got
a
lot
of
employees.
We
need
to
pay
extra
money
to
to
keep
them
here
and
that's
that's
the
other
side
of
the
equation.
When
we
look
at
balancing
the
budget.
So
that's
my
concern
right
now.
Mark
you
had
your
hand
up.
D
Well,
I
mean
I'm
just
so
I
did
the
math.
This
is
25
cents
per
resident
per
year.
Is
what
we're
talking
about
so
we've
spent
I've
spent
more
than
25
cents.
Just
saying
that,
but
so
to
me
I
don't
see
it
as
a
big
deal,
one
way
or
the
other.
I
I
don't
know
check
from
a
hole
in
the
ground.
I've
never
been
there.
I
don't
know
anything
about
it
other
than
what
I
hear
here,
but
you
know
if
it
if
it
it's
just
it's
25
cents.
I.
C
Mean
yeah,
I
mean
we're
talking
two
lines
down:
240
thousand
dollars,
we're
talking
about
5,
000
more
and
I
would
say
directly
if
you're
looking
at
this
land,
which
is
on
the
water,
which
is
mostly
mangroves,
protecting
our
city
from
hurricanes.
I
I
there's
there's
immense
things.
I
I
think
that
we
we
really
can't
minimize
and
as
a
city,
we
really
do
very
little
when
it
comes
to
social
issues
into
the
environment.
I
think
this
is
a
small
contribution
to
our
responsibility
as
a
city.
N
Okay,
we
did
add
an
estimated
six
percent
of
overall
personnel
expenditures
for
personnel
related
changes
from
the
pending
items
that
we
previously
discussed.
This
does
include
the
five
percent,
if
approved
on
for
the
august
1
2022.
N
This
is
just
overall,
so
we
don't
know
how
much
will
be
given
to
each
position.
Yet
until
we
get
our
pay
plan
study
so
and
then,
of
course,
we've
got
the
police
negotiations
still
ongoing
and
everything.
So
this
would
just
this
is
just
an
estimate.
It
could
be
may
need
more,
but
there's
a
conservative
estimate.
I
J
J
Study
of
our
wages
and
salaries,
almost
all
the
information
that
they
go
for
nowadays
is
available
online
and
they
knew
or
they
should
have
known,
that
we
needed
this
information
for
this
year's
coming
budget.
I
don't
understand
what
the
delay
is.
It
looks
like
we're
back
into
a
dover
coal.
You
know
hamster
in
the
wheel
deal
well.
I
Actually
they're
doing
several
of
the
surrounding
communities,
including
the
county,
the
county
hasn't
gotten
their
numbers
yet
either
they're.
Of
course,
the
low
bid
they're
a
qualified
firm
but
they're
a
smaller
firm,
and
this
was
actually
we
moved
this
up.
So
we
had
the
numbers
this
year
because
it
was
not
proposed
originally
to
be
done
even
at
this
point,
but
they
had
done
a
study
back
in
18..
Of
course
nothing
substantial
happened
with
that
study.
I
We
should
have
the
numbers
anytime,
it's
just
a
matter
of
consulting
workload
and
employee
interviews,
so
they're
not
just
looking
at
the
numbers
online
they're
actually
interviewing
each
of
the
employee
groups,
they're
getting
the
information
that
I
just
referenced
at
the
beginning
that
the
employees
have
said
so
they're
getting
perception,
they're,
putting
the
whole
plan
together,
not
just
the
numbers.
Now
this
also,
then
you
know
once
we
get
our
numbers,
other
people
are
going
to
raise
their
salaries
too.
So
that's
why
we're
looking
to
the
future?
I
Not
just
you
know
what
the
consultant's
saying,
but
what
we're
still
going
to
be
up
against
when
other
people
are
raising
their
numbers,
whether
it's
even
in
the
union
negotiations.
We
look
at
the
same
thing:
fire
police,
general
employees,
so
it
has
taken
some
time
to
get
everyone
in
interviewed,
consolidated
numbers
and
proposed,
but.
J
I
Actually,
in
this
number,
you
see
here
feel
that
it
will
cover
what
the
consultant
is
going
to
recommend.
Oh
okay,
that's
why
we
have
that
placeholder
there,
as
well
as
a
placeholder
for
union
negotiation.
So
that's
what
all
of
this
incorporates
all
right
thanks,
but
I
don't
disagree.
It's
taking
a
while.
N
So
we
would
like
your
recommendation
on
this
one
as
well.
If
we
can
put
it
into
the
budget,
it
would
go
under
non-departmental
because
again
we
don't
know
which
divisions
yet
based
on
positions
and.
I
When
you
look
at
the
pro
forma,
like
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
we've
talked
about
two
years
having
to
do
this,
so
all
these
numbers
are
in
the
pro
forma
you
see
in
this
packet.
F
Else
we
have
to
be
in
a
very
short
period
of
time,
so
is,
is
everyone
in
favor
of
the
yeah?
Yes,
proposals.
N
Fund
fun
so,
but
there
is
some
cra
money
that
was
used,
there's
a
small
amount
originally
from
the
general
fund
and
then
there's
park
impact
fees
also
funding
this
project.
Okay,
I
think.
K
N
So
it
was
part
of
the
ads
that
council
had
requested.
So
when
the
bid
went
out
or
they
were
using
the
state
contractors
that
could
qualify
for
this
project,
the
contractor
had
suggested
well.
You
could
reduce
your
cost
by
not
doing
the
shade
structure,
but
unfortunately,
we've
already
since
council
had
asked
for
it
to
be
included,
have
purchased
the
shade
structure.
I
K
J
N
We
did
receive
some
state
projections
so
far
for
the
municipal
revenue
sharing
and
the
local
government
half
cent
sales
tax,
which
showed
a
decrease
of
revenue
of
301
000
from
our
conservative
estimate.
So
again
we
don't
want
to
go
over
what
the
state
projections
are.
So
we
did
have
to
reduce
those
projections.
N
We
did
ask
add
the
estimated
use
of
approximately
two
million
dollars
from
the
american
rescue
plan
funds
to
help
with
the
five-year
plan.
So
for
fiscal
year
23
we
included
861
305
dollars.
However,
we
will
review
this
each
year
based
on
needs.
So
if
revenues
come
in
a
little
bit,
better
or
expenditures
are
under
a
little
less.
We
could
maybe
not
use
some
of
those
funds,
so
they
can
be
used
for
another
project
or
other
items.
N
I
N
So,
based
on
the
july
1
number
and
the
proposed
rate
of
3.95,
which
is
our
current
rate,
millage
rate
that
would
increase
our
estimate,
approximately
1
million
dollars,
the
cra
tax
increment
financing
transfer
would
also
increase.
They
had
a
little
bit
smaller
of
an
increase.
They
were
at
10.75
percent
in
the
cra
district.
So
that's
a
transfer
of
76
000,
additional
76
185,
so
the
net
effect
on
revenue
is
approximately
943.
I
When
you
look
at
the
seat
at
the
pro
forma,
you
still
see
that
in
the
out
years,
just
like
this
year,
we
proposed
five
percent
revenue
increase.
Knowing
that
below
the
line,
we
anticipate
something
greater
than
that
to
happen,
which
makes
our
proforma
better
each
year,
but
we
project
it
conservatively
say
that
we
always
come
in
better
than
originally
discussed.
N
N
I
N
N
N
and
again.
Our
hope
is
that
our
cra
will
sunset
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
bring
those
funds
back
into
the
general
fund
in
those
out
years
helping
to
balance
the
budget
there
as
well.
D
I
Our
anticipation
would
be
two
things
one.
You
can
see
target
reserve
here,
we're
up
to
15.3
and
that's
with
all
inclusive
everything
in
there
that
we've
discussed
when
you
look
at
24
and
you
see
in
25,
the
transfer
to
the
cra
is
1.3
million,
and
you
can
see
our
programmed
use
of
reserves
in
that
year
is
only
632
000
at
the
bottom,
so
we're
going
to
pull
in
an
extra
600
000
right
there
from
the
cra
once
that's
paid
off.
I
So
we
anticipate
that
next
year
that
growth
rate
is
going
to
be
higher
again
and
that's
going
to
make
these
numbers
even
better.
So,
by
the
time
we
get
to
27
the
goal,
is
we
have
revenues
to
match
expenditures?
There's
no
deficit
in
that
that
line,
and,
of
course,
the
program
use
of
reserve,
that's
taking
it
down
to
15.3,
will
turn
around
and
start
going
the
other
way
again
so
that
we
actually
have
revenue
and
excessive
reserve
and
expenditures.
I
Our
reserves
can
come
up
somewhat,
and
then
we
can,
you
know,
look
at
expenses
and
rates
and
everything
at
that
point.
So
the
pro
forma
itself
compared
to
last
year's
pro
forma
is
extremely
strong,
and
that
includes
all
the
things
that
we've
been
saying.
We
had
to
still
include
in
our
pro
forma,
so
they're
in
there
now
like
prego.
N
Questions
on
that,
okay,
so
the
few
items
that
will
change
before
you
see
our
proposed
budget
message
that
comes
out
mid-august
is
based
on
all
of
our
funds.
Finally
being
updated,
we
will
have
administrative
charges
and
computer
overhead
will
be
re-spread
to
include
all
personnel
that
was
approved
for
the
following
year,
as
well
as
any
changes
to
the
budgets.
N
General
liability,
we're
hoping
to
get.
You
know
our
rates
in.
If
we
get
them
in
by
mid
beginning
of
august,
it
will
be
adjusted
if
it's
later
than
that,
we'll
just
do
an
adjustment
in
the
new
year
as
a
reappropriation
or
an
appropriation,
the
state
projection
for
communication
service
tax
was
still
not
updated
yet
so
that
would
be
a
change
based
on
whatever
on
the
state
does
project
there.
N
Another
one,
that's
not
part
of
the
general
fund,
but
is
the
one
percent
sales
tax
hadn't
been
posted
yet
as
well
either?
So
we
would
update
that
fund
revenue
based
on
whatever
the
state
projects
and
then
just
for
the
gas
tax
fund.
Their
state
projections
were
added,
so
we
did
add
the
95
percent
of
their
projections.
N
Again,
we're
trying
to
be
conservative
because
their
projections
didn't
say
how
they
were
addressing
the
gas,
the
october
tax
holiday
for
gas,
we're
adding
78
535
for
the
six
cent
gas
tax
and
24
260
for
the
additional
five
cent
gas
tax,
we'll
add
it
to
the
revenue
and
to
the
reserves
so
that
we
can
just
use
it
in
the
following
year.
J
Kristen,
yes,
I
would
just
like
to
tell
you
that
I
think
this
is
a
budget
that
the
city,
council
and
the
finance
department
can
be
very
proud
of.
I'm
very,
I
feel
very
confident
that
this
council
has
taken
the
city
from
a
borrow
and
spend
policy
to
don't
spend
it
till
you
have
it,
and
I'm
really
I'm
really
pleased
that
we've
been
able
to
accomplish
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
guidance.
Thank
you.
F
E
N
So
chris
and
simeone
again
so
the
proposed
millage
rate
is
the
three
point:
nine
five
zero
zero
mills
and
the
calculated
roll
back
rate
is
3.5455,
making
the
proposed
millage
rate
11.41
over
the
rollback
rate.
This
resolution
sets
the
tentative
millage
rate
in
budget
public
hearing
for
tuesday
september
13th
of
2022
at
501
pm
at
the
military
heritage,
museum,
900,
west
marion
avenue
punta
gorda
florida.
N
F
D
So
I
moved
the
proposed
millage
rate
is
3.9500
mills
and
the
calculated
rollback
rate
is
3.5455,
making
the
proposed
millage
rate
11.41
over
the
rollback
rate.
The
resolution
sets
a
time
or
excuse
me.
The
resolution
sets
the
tentative
millage
rate
and
budget
public
hearing
for
tuesday
september
13th
2022
at
501
pm
at
the
military
heritage,
museum,
900,
west
marion
avenue,
punta
gorda
florida.
D
I
Now,
if
I
may,
the
reason
that
we
talked
about
having
two
separate
discussions
at
the
end
was
this
is
for
next
year's
budget,
but
the
original
proposal
was
for
the
remaining
two
months
of
this
year's
budget.
So
that's
the
request
that
was
in
the
front
of
the
whole
budget
discussion
for
general
fund,
if
the
request
would
be
for
you
to
also
approve
that
change,
so
that
we
can
move
forward
this
budget
here
with
that
part.
I
C
F
N
And
this
was
continuing
from
july
6,
so
you
had
already
approved
the
assessment
rate,
but
we
now
have
the
addition
of
the
final,
the
first
hearing
for
the
final
or
the
public
budget
hearing
to
consider
the
final
adoption
of
the
special
assessment
would
be
september.
13Th
2022
at
501
pm
at
the
military
heritage,
museum,
900,
west
marion
avenue,
punta
gorda
florida.
K
K
The
tenant
of
annual
assessments
for
bsi
cmad
is
eight
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
per
single
family
residence,
which
represents
an
increase
of
three
hundred
dollars
from
fiscal
year,
2021
2022
for
all
other
properties.
The
assessment
is
0.090
per
square
foot
of
landline,
less
than
120
lineal
feet
from
the
seawall
public
budget.
Hearing
to
consider
final
adoption
of
the
special
assessment
will
be
held
on
september
13th
2022
at
501
pm
at
the
military
heritage,
museum,
900,
west
marion
avenue,
punta
gorda
florida.
K
I
make
a
motion.
This
resolution
authorizes
the
property
appraiser
to
send
out
notices
to
the
property
owners
reflecting
the
tenant
of
special
assessment
and
to
notify
property
owners
of
the
date
time
and
place
of
the
public
hearing
to
set
the
final
special
assessment.
The
tenant
of
annual
assessment
for
pgi
cmad
is
950
per
single
family
residence,
which
represents
an
increase
of
300
from
fiscal
year,
2021
2022.
K
for
all
of
the
properties.
The
assessment
is
0.099
per
square
foot
of
landline,
less
than
120
literal
feet
from
the
seawall.
A
public
budget
hearing
to
consider
final
adoption
of
the
special
assessment
will
be
held
on
september
13
2022
at
501
pm
at
the
military
heritage,
museum,
900,
west
marion
avenue,
punta
gorda
florida.
N
F
N
Again,
this
was
continued
from
the
july
6th
city
council
meeting
where
council
did
approve
the
assessment
rate
of
235
dollars,
and
so
we
are
setting
the
public
hearing
to
consider
the
final
adoption
of
the
special
assessment
to
be
held
october.
13Th
2022
at
501
pm
at
the
military
heritage,
museum,
900,
west
marion
avenue,
punta
gorda
florida.
K
Sets
the
tenant
of
levy
of
the
mandatory
lot
mowing
program
assessment
at
235
and
authorizes
the
property
appraiser
to
include
within
the
trim
truth
and
millage
act
notice,
the
tentative
special
assessment
rate
and
public
hearing
notice
for
the
final
special
assessment.
This
tentative
assessment
represents
an
increase
of
40
over
the
previous
year.
A
public
hearing
to
consider
final
adoption
of
the
special
assessment
will
be
held
september,
13th
2022
at
501
pm
at
the
military
heritage,
museum,
900,
west
merriam,
avenue,
ponte
gordon
florida.
F
Second,
everybody
getting
punchy;
okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
tentative
assessment
of
the
mandatory
lot
mowing
program
at
235
dollars
for
fiscal
year,
2022
2023,
as
stated
in
the
motion,
any
further
discussion.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
N
F
B
Yeah
good
morning,
good
morning,
yeah
15
minutes
left
just
a
few
boarding
committee
items
so
under
vacancies
we
still
have.
B
We
still
have
two
alternates
on
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
Now
we
have
one
regular
to
add
to
that
announcement
of
vacancies
for
the
code
enforcement
board,
two
alternates
and
one
regular
to
add
to
that
vacancy
and
utility
advisory
board.
We
do
have
two
seats
on
that
board
that
are
vacant
and
that's
all
I
have.
I
We
had
discussed
last
year,
the
house
on
bel
air,
and
you
would
ask
for
some
information
regarding
a
appraisal
of
the
property
that
information
was
received
and,
obviously
a
net
of,
what's
anticipated
as
repairs
that
may
be
required
already
taken
out
of
that
price
of
the
total
value.
Of
course,
it
has
a
valuation
of
lot
versus
lot
and
improvements,
but
the
total
valuation
is
about
440,
not
about
it's
440
000.
I
That's
the
number
that
you
would
ask
to
come
up
with.
So
given
the
information
that
was
provided,
we're
just
requesting.
I
Proceeds
right
now
would
be
in
the
if
we
got
that
value
in
the
400
000
range,
I
believe
it
was.
We
paid
taxes
and
different
things
and
had
some
staff
expense
on
that
and
the
original
discussion
when
we
talked
about
city
hall
improvements
was
that
it
may
go
towards
the
delta
for
the
city
hall
option
three
that
would
help
fund
that,
of
course,
that's
up
to
you
to
decide
where
it
would
go
and.
F
F
F
F
D
I
would
I
would
agree
to
sell
it.
I
would
think
that
we
should
give
the
city
manager
the
authority
to
just
list
it
at
whatever
market
price
they
need
to
to
list
it
at
because
this
obviously
isn't
what
you
listed
at
and
then
to
negotiate
the
the
sale
and
be
done
with
it.
So
it
doesn't
have
to
come
back
to
council
for
every.
You
know:
five
percent
yeah
bid
that
we
get
so.
F
I
think
we
give
him
the
latitude
to
take
care
of
it
the
way
it
needs
to
be
taken
care
of
and
for
those
people
who
wrote
me
letters
we're
not
giving
the
house
away
and
we're
not
going
to
let
somebody
occupy
it
and
fix
it
up
and
just
take
ownership
of
it.
That's
not
what
happens
with
this
sort
of
a
thing,
but
thank
you
for
your
interest,
so.
J
Let's
can
I
answer
some
of
the
letters
that
I've
gotten
yeah.
We
do
own
the
house,
we
when
we
say
that
again
we
own
the
house.
Therefore
it
will
be
incumbent
upon
the
city
to
take
care
of
the
grass
and
the
trimmings
and
all
the
other
stuff.
So
it's
going
to
be
taken
care
of
you
can
all
sit
back
and
relax
nobody's.
You
know
you're
not
going
to
have
this
the
seat
idea
again
and
based
on
calls
I've
been
getting.
I
The
way
we
would
handle
it
through
procurement
is,
we
put
it
out
for
sealed
beds,
and
then
we
would,
of
course,
and
if
you
restrict
the
area
that
can
bid
one
at
first,
we
would
take
that
first.
If
you
do
not,
then
we
would
take
all
bids
and
then
we
would
qualify
them
and
just
like
any
real
estate
transaction.
I.
K
F
Well,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
houses
that
are
in
bidding
wars
right
now.
I
know
and
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
that
seem
to
be
interested
in
this
particular
house.
So,
let's
see
what
happens
with
well,
it's
a
gorgeous
lot.
I
mean
it's
yeah,
so
yeah,
it's
a
good
location,
all
right.
So
let's
do
a
formal
motion.
I
would
like.
J
F
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
sell
the
house
on
295
bel
air
court,
as
is,
and
we
will
maintain
the
property
in
the
meantime,
as
far
as
keeping
the
neighbors
happy
and
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
all
right.
I
A
E
F
Thank
you,
okay,
a
couple
of
things
I
just
want
to
share
with
all
of
you.
F
This
time
right,
okay,
so
I'll
give
her
the
count
and-
and
that
there'll
be
an
invitation
forthcoming
for
that
you
all
got
a
copy
of
the
letter
that
we
sent
to
the
public
service
commission,
we'll
see
how
that
goes,
and
that's
been
taken
care
of,
and
also
tomorrow,
at
2
p.m.
In
murdoch
is
the
joint
meeting
of
the
board
of
county
commissioners
and
the
north
port
city
council
city.
Commission.
F
J
C
Mr
cummings,
just
a
quick
thing
from
from
the
last
florida
freight
advisory
committee
me
and
the
the
economic
disaster
coordinator
recovery
coordinator
for
re
regional
planning
council.
We
both
were
speaking
on
that
meeting
about
about
the
basically
in
the
important
southeast
florida
and
pineal
go
to
charlotte
county
about
what
we
can
play
in
logistics
for
the
state
and
so
in.
Having
that
conversation,
I
related
to
how
the
supply
chain
issue
in
savannah
was
addressed
through
actually
sending
by
train
the
containers
up
to
north
georgia.
C
It's
getting
them
out
of
the
way
and
neighbor
to
truck
it
from
there.
So,
basically,
from
our
conversation
in
me,
space
he's
saying
that
we
can
do
a
similar
thing
in
florida
coming
into
the
heartland
in
southwest
florida.
Port
of
miami
actually
changed
its
plans,
so
they
put
in
their
master,
grant
to
actually
add
a
rail
head
from
miami
to
clewiston
to
get
to
to
rail
the
containers
up
and
then
basically
get
this
into
our
area.
C
So
then
we're
looking
at
at
henry
glade,
charlotte
counties
being
able
to
benefit
from
actually
that
trade
and
also
counting
into
the
air
glaze
airport,
so
good
stuff
coming.
I
Sir
one
comment:
sorry,
but
this
will
be
our
last
meeting
in
this
structure
so
from
here
on
out
we'll
be
in
military
heritage,
museum
museum,
we'll
look
at
taking
pieces
that
you
can
each
have
a
historical
piece
of
this
or
we
can
start
selling
slats
off
the
dice
that
you
sign
as
a
fundraiser.