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From YouTube: Regular City Council Meeting 3-16-2022
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Regular City Council Meeting 3-16-2022
D
E
A
F
F
We
thank
you
for
this
council
and
all
those
that
support
this
city
to
continue
to
live
here
in
freedom,
and
we
ask
your
blessing
on
this
meeting
today
that
it
would
be
prosperous
and
would
be
successful,
and
things
would
happen
for
the
betterment
of
the
citizens
and
this
city.
In
the
name
of
your
son.
Jesus
amen,
amen,.
A
A
G
Much
of
what
we
do,
if
not
all,
is
predicated
somehow
on
the
work
that
she
has
done
and
the
department
that
she
manages
and
if
things
go
wrong,
she's
someone
we
can
always
blame,
no,
no,
actually,
when
she's
involved.
I
never
have
to
worry
about
whether
or
not
the
eyes
are
dotted
teaser
crossed
or
if
things
are
going
to
go
correctly,
because
I
have
every
confidence
that
she's
researched
everything
ad
nauseam
and
we'll
make
sure
that
everything's
done
properly.
G
H
G
A
I
I'd
like
to
add
one
thing
when
I
took
citizens
academy
six
years
ago,
it
was
the
last
official
meeting
that
your
predecessor,
officiated
and
I
don't
know
who
was
sitting
next
to
me,
but
they
said
oh
when
he
goes.
We
are
in
such
trouble
and
I
have
to
tell
you
that
when
he
left,
I
don't
think
anybody
noticed
it
was
just
a
seamless
transition.
A
Thank
you,
sir
all
right.
Next
we
have
a
proclamation
and
it's
my
honor
and
privilege
to
present
this
proclamation
for
the
city
of
punta
gorda,
whereas,
as
we
observe
the
50th
anniversary
of
the
vietnam
war,
we
reflect
with
solemn
reverence
upon
the
valor
of
a
generation
that
served
with
honor,
and
we
pay
tribute
to
the
more
than
3
million
men
and
women
who
bravely
left
their
families
to
serve
a
world
away
from
everything
they
knew
and
everyone
they
loved.
A
And
whereas
we
remember
those
who
courageously
served
during
more
than
a
decade
of
combat
over
air
land
and
sea
in
the
challenging
terrains
of
southeast
asia,
where
they
faced
extraordinary
and
unprecedented
dangers.
And
we
will
never
forget
their
sacrifices
in
the
name
of
freedom
and
whereas,
through
the
dedication
of
the
vietnam
wall
of
southwest
florida
on
november
5
2016,
the
citizens
of
punta
gorda,
charlotte
county
and
the
state
of
florida,
are
reminded
of
the
more
than
58
000
patriots
who
sacrificed
all
they
had
and
all
that
they
would
ever
know.
A
A
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
does
hereby
proclaim,
may
28
2012
through
november
11
2025
as
the
commemoration
of
the
50th
anniversary
of
the
vietnam
war
for
the
military
service
of
veterans
from
1955
to
1975.,
in
accordance
with
the
officially
designated
national
period
of
observance,
with
a
special
expression
of
gratitude
to
our
vietnam
veterans
for
their
service
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session.
The
16th
day
of
march
2022
signed
leonard
matthews
mayor
and
accepting
is
lucy
lynette
from
the
military
heritage,
museum.
L
A
And
there
will
be
a
ceremony
taking
place
it's
march
29th
and
it's
one
o'clock
at
the
military.
No,
not
one
o'clock
yeah,
oh
10
o'clock
apologize.
Okay,
it's
an
all-day
thing
at
the
military
heritage
museum
all
right
now
we
will
move
on
to
the
time
for
public
input
and
since
there
are
several
people
in
the
audience
today,
I
would
like
to
just
read
the
procedures
for
public
comments.
A
Members
of
the
public
should
familiarize
themselves
with
the
plaque
on
the
wall
behind
the
deus,
which
is
right
there
and
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
address
the
council
should
use
the
guest
podium
at
the
entrance
door,
speak
directly
into
the
microphone
and
begin
by
stating
your
name
for
the
record.
Each
person
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
Sharing.
Minutes
is
not
permitted.
A
Speakers
are
to
direct
all
comments
to
the
city
council,
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak.
Speakers
should
try
not
to
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
This
ensures
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation.
A
No
applause
are
booing
before
during
or
after
each
speaker.
If
you
have
supporting
documents
that
you
brought
with
you
today
that
we
wish
to
be
displayed
on
the
screen
on
the
sidewall,
you
must
provide
a
copy
to
the
city.
Clerk
and
documents
will
become
part
of
the
permanent
record
and
retained
by
the
clerk's
office,
and
it
should
be
noted
that
the
citizen
comments
portion
of
the
meeting
is
not
intended
to
be
a
question
and
answer
session.
C
F
N
I
also
share
great
concern
about
the
number
of
motorized
bicycles,
scooters
and
other
things
like
that.
Now,
on
the
bike
path,
it
seems
in
the
last
two
years,
it's
exploded
and
some
of
them
of
one
we
spoke
to
somebody
on
the
bike
path.
He
had
a
scooter
that
could
go
up
to
62
miles
per
hour,
somebody's
going
to
get
hurt
if
they
don't
start
enforcing
the
role
that
there's
no
motorized
vehicles
on
the
bike
paths
and
on
the
pedestrian
paths.
O
O
What
we
wanted
to
achieve
was
was
sort
of
codifying
that
the
property
in
front
of
our
homes
was
left
open
overnight
for
us
to
park.
Now
we
worked
with
mitchell
and
fabiana
over
the
last
two
years.
It's
been
about
two
years
ago,
right
now
and
from
what
I
read
in
the
ordinance
there's
a
few
gray
areas
that
I
feel
could
be
tweaked
one
of
them.
The
overnight
parking
pass
should
be
specific
to
the
property,
the
of
the
person
trying
to
obtain
it.
O
In
other
words,
the
property
owner
should
have
the
pass
attached
to
that
property.
So,
therefore,
if
he
has
a
guest
or
he
wants
to
park,
his
car,
his
street
will
be
open
in
front
of
him.
Now,
I'm
in
I'm
on
palm
avenue,
where
the
original
plat
has
40-foot
frontages,
they're
narrow
lots,
and
I
feel
if
I'm
entitled
to
three
passes,
I'm
going
to
impinge
on
my
neighbor.
O
If
I
use
them
because
I
only
have
room
for
one,
maybe
two
vehicles,
aside
from
my
driveway,
I
have
like
a
15
foot
driveway,
which
leaves
about
25
feet,
which
I
can
only
get
maybe
one
vehicle.
So
I
would
advocate
that
you
don't
give
carb
blanc
three
passes
to
homeowners,
maybe
base
it
on
the
amount
of
footage
they
have
on
their
lots.
Some
of
the
newer
builds
down
there
have
taken
two
or
three
lots.
They
can
obviously
accommodate
more
overnight
parking.
I
myself
would
not.
O
O
Parking
passes
specific
to
the
property
owner
and
limit
them
limit
them
to
the
amount
of
footage
that
can
actually
accommodate
cars
because,
as
mitchell
said
during
one
of
our
meetings,
he's
trying
to
avoid
neighbor
wars,
which
you
know
are
very
common
in
puna
gorda.
So
we
really
don't
want
that
to
happen
with
the
parking.
But
aside
from
that,
I
applaud
the
effort.
I
know
it's
a
first
reading,
I'm
hoping-
and
maybe
some
of
these
things
can
be
adapted.
P
L
L
Basically,
I
am
really
grateful
that
the
city
council
has
taken
this
up
and
staff
have
worked
on
it
over
the
last
two
years
and
I
know
there's
been
a
real,
strong
effort
to
fix
some
of
the
problems
that
were
going
on
at
the
time
and
potentially
could
happen
with
us
again.
So
I
also
would
like
to
see
the
application
and
the
actual
permit
just
by
maybe
writing
the
address
on
there
or
something
like
that
at
the
time
of
issuance,
so
that
there's
not
problems
with
neighbors.
I
we
all
know
most
everyone
there.
L
If
I
had
somebody
come,
and
I
couldn't
accommodate
them
in
front
of
my
house
and
they
had
two
vehicles.
I
could
easily
talk
to
my
neighbor
about
that.
I
feel,
and
it's
going
to
be
complaint
driven
to
my
understanding,
so
unless
I
as
a
property
owner
we're
going
to
call
and
complain
about
it,
which
I
wouldn't
do,
if
I
told
them
that
they
could
park
there
overnight
for
that
two
days
or
week
or
whatever
it
is.
L
So
I
think,
there's
you
know
some
common
sense
things
that
we
can
do
as
a
neighborhood,
but
in
terms
of
giving
everyone
the
opportunity
to
have
three
placards
and
park
anywhere
in
the
paved
area
seems
like
it
doesn't
really
resolve
the
issues
that
were
there
in
the
first
place.
So
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
that's
all
thank.
L
Well,
I
sent
it
yesterday
afternoon,
so
basically
it
was
the
part
about
the
three
placards
in
the
ordinance
and
the
other
part
was
that
you
could,
just
as
I
just
said,
you
could
park
anywhere
in
the
paved
area
that
was
in
the
in
the
designation
and
that's
what
I
was
tying
it
back.
It
was
very
brief,
but
I
did
send
it
through
that
link.
I
didn't
send
to
each
one
individually.
Oh.
J
I
went
to
a
charlotte
county
commission
meeting
workshop
yesterday
and
they're
very,
very
enthusiastic
about
the
hotel
rooms
and
the
thousands
that
we're
going
to
have
and
all
the
money
that
we're
going
to
bring
in
and
the
concern
that
I
had
over.
There
was:
how
are
we
going
to
be
protecting
as
a
community
over
there
we're
all
residents,
also
and
responsible
for
for
the
county,
too,
of
protecting
the
sheriff's
department
with
all
the
growth
that's
going
on
and
the
different
types
of
clientele
that
will
be
coming
either
from
sun
seekers
or
wherever?
J
And
I'm
here
today
to
speak
to
you,
I
appreciate
chief
davis
was
you're
all
very
willing
to
always
speak
to
anyone
who
comes
to
talk
to
anyone
here
and
ask
a
question
and
the
concern
that
I'm
going
to
be
having
one
of
them
is.
How
are
we
going
to
be
not
just
the
sheriff's
department
protecting
themselves
with
this
growth?
J
I
was
a
quite
the
party
person
when
I
worked
in
the
factory
work
and
I
bumped
into
a
couple
police
every
so
often
so
I'm
I'm
not
clean
here.
So
I
get
I've
walked
the
walk
and
I
would
think
we'd
be
remiss
not
to
think
somebody
as
nice,
as
myself
won't
be
getting
into
trouble
down
the
road
if
they
drink
too
much
or
drug
too
much,
and
so
I
hope
we
pay
attention
to
that.
It's
going
to
cost.
J
We
want
to
be
sure
we
have
the
right
personnel
enough.
We
want
to
have
the
vehicles
to
be
able
to
get
way
over
to
over
to
that
development
and
you're
also
going
to
want.
I
love
that
that
you
got
the
police
dog
that
that's
a
friendly
dog
but
you're
also
going
to
have
the
ones
that
can
hold
their
own
and
be
able
to
find
drugs.
So
there's
going
to
be
costs
to
all
of
this
growth,
and
it's
going
to
be
on
you
too,
for
our
part
of
budget.
M
Good
morning
I'm
jerry
waxler,
I
work
at
the
macquarie
law
firm
and
I
leave
that
law
firm
every
evening,
some
between
probably
5
30
and
6
o'clock.
I
come
down
the
alley
in
front
of
burger
bar
and
I
make
a
left
onto
virginia
wait
for
the
light
to
turn
and
continue
across
us
41
to
continue
heading
northbound
down
virginia
every
evening.
M
More
often
than
not
what
I
find
happening
is
someone
is
stopping
in
virginia
in
the
right-of-way
to
let
people
off
to
go
to
either
manatees
pizza
or
ice
house
and
what's
happening
because
there's
always
at
that
time
of
night,
always
a
line
of
cars.
Waiting
to
get
across
virginia
what's
happening
is
no
one.
Is
anticipating
someone
coming
to
a
dead,
stop
on
virginia
they're?
Stopping
everybody
is
stopping
behind
it
and
I
more
often
than
not
find
myself
sitting
in
the
middle
of
the
u.s
41
virginia
intersection.
M
While
we
wait
for
those
pers
those
people
to
unload,
to
go
to
the
restaurant
and
before
it
moves
along,
it's
creating
a
dangerous
situation
that
I
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
perhaps
some
signs
that
say
no
stopping
or
standing
no
unloading.
You
can
turn
into,
but
I
mean
they
do
have
a
parking
lot.
It
has
minimal
cars
and
I
understand
you
might
not
be
able
to
find
a
parking
space,
but
you
can
pull
in
there
to
let
off
your
passengers
and
then
back
back
out
and
head
up
virginia
it's
an
accident
waiting
to
happen.
M
I'm
surprised
it
hasn't
yet,
but
mostly
I'm
always
fearful
when
I'm
stuck.
You
know
with
a
part
of
my
car
in
the
that
intersection
that
the
light
is
going
to
change,
I'm
going
to
create
gridlock,
but
it's
happening.
You
know
you
just
don't
anticipate
it,
and
so
it's
not
the
kind
of
thing
where
people
are
going
into
that
intersection,
because
you
know
trying
to
get
across
and
beat
the
light
it's
happening
because
unexpectedly,
people
are
stopping
where
they
shouldn't
and
I
wanted
to
make
you
aware.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
B
G
G
I
Greg,
I
would
like
to
add
that
there's
not
a
person
up
here
that
won't
talk
to
anybody
at
any
time.
I
answer
email
almost
24
hours
a
day.
I
know
we
all
do
and
if
you
have
a
question,
you're
will
you're
welcome
to
call
us.
Our
phone
number
is
listed
on
the
website.
Our
email
address
is
on
the
website
and
I
I
believe
we
are
all
okay,
so.
A
G
F
My
name
is
bill
dryberg
from
punting
order
council.
I
am
here
to
speak
on
the
rezoning
of
the
property
from
commercial
to
residential.
I
am
some
of
you
know
that.
Obviously
I
just
finished
my
third
year
as
president
of
the
board
of
realtors.
So
I
wanted
to
look
into
this,
and
so
I
went
to
the
two
leading
title
companies
here
in
punting
order
and
asked
them
have.
They
ever
seen
a
form
dealing
with
the
airport
and
the
runways
and
right
to
sue
or
not
sue,
and
the
answer
was
resounding:
no
they've
never
seen
it.
F
So
then
I
went
to
our
forms
that
we
use
in
the
industry
and
there's
over
150
of
them
going
from
environmentally
sensitive
lands
to
over
55
communities,
and
there
was
nothing
in
there
that
dealt
with
the
airport
and
runways
and
arrested
stuff
because
nothing
exists.
So
I've
come
to
the
conclusion.
I
don't
think
this
is
a
city's
problem
like
I.
I
think
this
is
something
that
the
developer
has
to
take
care
of.
When
they
sell
a
piece
of
property
or
sell
the
home,
they
can
create
their
own
form.
F
Q
I
don't
want
to
say
anything
about
navigation,
easements,
that's
a
topic
that'll
come
up
later,
and
it
really
has
very
little
to
do
with
the
situation
today.
The
charlotte
county
airport
is
a
major
economic
developer
for
the
city,
and
the
residents
of
this
community
is
huge
at
a
meeting
here
about
a
month
ago.
It
provided
information
and
supporting
background
regarding
the
noise
problem
within
the
airport's
vicinity,
specifically
on
departure
and
arrival,
and
that
you've
got
to
be
very
careful
of
two
weeks
ago.
Q
Q
After
four
hearings,
the
county
decided
that
potential
complaints
and
resulting
lawsuits
were
not
in
the
best
interest
and
denied
the
residential
zoning
attorney
waxing
was
president
xi
concord
to
testify
to
this.
Today,
the
serious
the
city
is
faced
with
a
similar
decision,
the
council's
authority
and
responsible
to
make
a
decision
that
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
and
its
residents.
Today
it
was
in
your
responsibility
and
authority
to
deny
this
request.
Q
You
have
serious
problems
all
over
this
country
with
noise.
The
bottom
line
is,
is
that
once
the
noise
complaints
come
in
and
you
have
attorneys
get
involved,
there
are
legal
fees
associated
with
this
happens
all
over
the
country.
So,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
it's
a
new
power.
Please
do
not
approve
this
change
to
residential.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
to
the
public
hearing
agenda.
We
do
have
two
quasi-judicial
hearings
and
anyone
in
the
audience
that
wishes
to
give
testimony
or
comments
for
either
of
these
two
items.
Please
stand
now
and
be
sworn
in
and
even
if
you
think
you
will
be
speaking
on
these
two
items,
please
stand
and
be
sworn
in.
A
D
And
this
is
the
second
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
I'll
read
by
title
only
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
punta
gorda
florida
amending
the
city
of
ponticorta,
comprehensive
plan,
future
land
use
map
to
include
newly
annexed
lands
amending
the
future
land
use
map
to
reflect
the
change
in
the
current
designations
of
low
density,
residential,
slash
county
to
highway
commercial
corridor.
Slash
the
city.
K
A
A
A
If
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
address
counsel
on
this
agenda
item,
please
come
to
the
podium
last
call.
If
anyone
would
like
to
come
to
the
podium
to
introduce
themselves
on
this
agenda
item,
please
come
to
the
podium
motion
to
close
public
hearing.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
close
the
public
hearing.
All
those
in
paper,
please
say:
aye
aye,
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
A
K
B
G
G
Questions
for
staff
on
the
outside
of
this
area,
where
it
is
the
commercial
piece
there
is
approximately
13.2
acres
remaining
along
store
road
and
that
13.2
acres
that
remains
is
still
that
was
presented
in
the
first
presentation,
the
equivalent
of
the
walmart
shopping
center,
the
bernstein
marketplace,
where
publix
is
home,
depot
airport
crossing
republic
says
and
cross
trail
center.
That
would
still
be
developed.
Commercial.
D
A
M
So
that
you
have
full
information
on
on
what
is
going
on
with
that,
I
was.
I
received
an
email
a
couple
months
ago
from
the
airport
asking
if
my
client
would
voluntarily
give
a
navigation
easement.
I
responded
that
I
would
contact
my
client
and
would
let
them
know
my
client's
response,
while
that
was
pending.
The
chairman
approached
you
to
ask
that
you
place
a
condition
on
the
approval
for
a
navigation
easement.
That
was
a
surprise
to
me,
because
we
had
been
approached
and
we
were
in
the
process
of
of
considering
it.
M
What
I
want
you
to
know
is
that
my
client
had
to
approach
there.
Of
course
they
own
the
property,
but,
as
you
know,
it's
under
contract
to
a
national
home
builder
who
who
hopes
to
develop
the
plan
development?
That's
before
you
today,
they
had
to
approach
their
contract
purchaser
because
their
contract
prohibited
them
from
entering
into
anything.
That
would
impact
the
title
between
the
time
they
had
contract
and
closing
they
had
negotiations.
M
Ultimately,
the
purchase
and
sale
contract
was
revised.
All
of
that
took
time,
but
I
have
notified
the
airport
that
we
will
be
voluntarily
granting
a
navigation
easement
to
the
airport
for
the
project.
I
wish
that
the
airport
had
allowed
that
to
play
out
in
its
natural
course,
rather
than
coming
to
you
and
creating
a
tense
situation
between
this
board
and
that
board
we
had
never
said
no,
we
said
we
had
said
we
would
consider
it.
M
We
were
considering
it
and
we
have
delivered
the
decision
to
the
airport,
which
is
that
a
navigation
easement
will
be
granted.
It
is
conditioned
on
this
being
approved.
Obviously,
if
the,
if
the
change
to
residential
is
approved,
then
once
that
approval
is
in
place
and
the
appeals
period
has
run-
and
the
decision
is
final,
they
will
be
granting
navigation
easement,
and
I
just
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
I
A
A
I
O
E
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
something
real,
quick
that
I
think
that
was
very
important
to
hear
that
the
developer
was
involved.
I
think
it's
also
very
important
that
the
record
stated
the
fact
of
where
that
property
was
prior
to
annexing
into
the
city
as
well,
because
again,
I
think
part
of
our
job
is
to
make
sure
that
misinformation
out
there
is
corrected.
So
again,
I'm
glad
that
that
we
were
able
to
put
that
on
the
record.
A
I
I
concur,
and-
and
I
have
read
a
lot
of
nasty
comments
on
social
media
about
this
council
with
regard
to
this
subject
and
it's
it's
very
disheartening,
because
we
work
very
hard
to
try
to
do
things
the
right
way
and,
and
I'm
very
sorry
that
it
came
to
social
media,
blabbing
and
blasting
of
the
council.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
doing
that.
Mrs
waxler,
I
appreciate
it
very
much
and
I
know
that
will
make
a
huge
difference
in
the
way
this
goes
down
all
right.
A
A
D
K
Good
morning,
lisa
hannon's
owning
official,
as
stated
this
has
been
worked
on
for
a
couple
years.
Fabiana
and
mitchell
started
it
with
the
historic
homeowners
association
and
their
civic
association
now,
and
they
came
up
with
a
map
of
the
affected
area
and
where
there's
restrictions
are
being
recommended
and
not
being
recommended.
K
The
went
through
and
met
with
staff
police
department
and
such
and
we've
got
the
permits,
they'll
be
the
reflective,
but
in
this
size,
which
is
what
police
wanted
to
be
able
to
read
better
when
they
would
drive
by
it
does
have
the
reflective
nature
of
this.
But
it
will
be
the
big
one
when
they
get
ordered,
they
will
have
the
ordinance
number
a
number
on
it.
The
they're
customizable
very
heavy
duty.
K
The
ordinance
and
the
announcement
and
the
application-
it's
just
a
small
application
for
the
property
owner
to
fill
out
all
that
will
be
administered
through
the
city
clerk's
office.
They
will
keep
track
of
of
that
if
any
missing
or
have
to
do
replacement
tags.
They
are
fifty
dollars
a
piece
right
now.
There
is
no
charge.
K
A
K
A
I
was
asked
that
question
because
somebody
that
lives
in
the
historic
district
could
technically
loan
their
permit
to
somebody
who
may
be
out
in
the
harbor
on
their
boat,
who
has
a
car
they
need
to
park
on
the
street,
and
we
just
want
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we
know
exactly
who
is
parking.
Those
vehicles
on
our
streets.
K
A
B
K
K
G
I
could
answer
that
further.
If
I
may
there's
several
things
here,
one
there
was,
as
lisa
stated,
the
triplex.
There
were
people
that
live
in
massachusetts
and
they
have
their
permit
with
them,
but
they
rent
out
the
home
and
they
leave
one
at
the
refrigerator
for
the
person
renting
the
home.
It's
their
responsibility,
it's
their
permit,
their
requirement
to
maintain
it
and
their
requirement
to
replace
it
if
it
gets
lost.
But
there
was
the
comments
that
they
needed
more
than
just
two,
even
though
most
people
didn't
have
three
vehicles
to
park.
G
Along
with
that,
there's
been
certainly
a
plethora
of
construction
or
homes
built
that
didn't
require
on-site
parking.
So
you
know
over
a
period
of
years
that
on-site
parking
has
exacerbated
the
problem,
but
staff's
direction
was
to
prevent
overnight
parking
from
those
that
did
not
live
in
the
area,
not
find
a
way
to
make
sure
each
home
could
only
park
in
front
of
their
house.
G
That's
a
whole
different
program
and
a
whole
different
set
of
issues
that
would
have
to
be
identified
and
addressed,
and,
along
with
that,
when
it
comes
to,
for
example,
parking
for
the
boats
that
are
moored
off
gilchrist.
If
they
have
a
dinghy
dock
permit,
which
we
have
the
docks
that
are
required
to
be
permitted.
If
you're
going
to
use
that
you
can
have
a
placard
where
you
are
allowed
to
park
in
designated
spots
at
bay
front
center
overnight,
because
you
have
the
dinghy
dock
permit.
G
G
The
intent
of
this
was
to
ensure
overnight
parking
did
not
occur
from
those
that
did
not
live
in
that
district
and
that's
what
this
program
does
not
ensure
that
each
frontage
and
each
house
is
specifically
identified
because
then,
when
you
talk
to
law
enforcement,
for
example,
they
not
only
have
to
ride
by
and
make
sure
that
there's
permits
that
are
hanging
in
the
windows,
but
that
that
permit
then
they're
going
to
have
to
run
it
make
sure
it
is
identified
with
that
property.
So
they
ensure
there's
not
a
violation,
those
type
things.
E
I
am
going
to
be
the
bad
guy
because
I
know
that
this
has
been
discussed
way
before
I
came
on
council,
so
I'm
going
to
apologize
in
advance.
However,
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns
about
this,
and
maybe
a
lot
of
these
can
just
be
you
know
addressed
so
first
off,
I'm
worried
about
the
administrative
taxing
it's
going
to
take
on
the
city
clerk
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
all
this
is
is
going
to
be
running
smoothly.
We've
already
talked
about
three
plaques.
E
I
hate
to
be
that
person,
but
there's
always
going
to
be
that
one
person
that's
going
to
try
to
say
I
lost
my
plaque.
I
lost
my
plaque.
I
lost
my
plaque
and
now
they're
paying
the
50,
but
they
have
10
plaques
now
and
that
concerns
me
that
now
we
have
people
that
are
going
to
be
getting
these
plaques
and
kind
of
using
them
to
their
advantage
over
other
neighbors
that
are
trying
to
be
honest
and
only
are
using
their
three
plaques,
because
those
plaques
are
able
to
be
to
be.
E
You
know,
moved
from
car
to
car.
I
did
speak
to
somebody
on
my
committee
that
actually
lives
up
north
by
the
beach,
so
it's
a
little
different,
but
they
kind
of
have
the
same
thing
and
what
they
do
is
they
put
stickers,
it's
literally
a
sticker
on
their
windshield,
so
it's
not
transferable
and
then
the
owner
gets
a
sticker
and
then,
if
they
have
visitors
they
now
first
off
the
owner
has
to
pay
for
the
sticker
as
well.
E
But
then
they
can
buy
up
to
like
three
visitor
passes
that
are
good
from
you
know
here
a
to
z,
and
that
seems
to
work
a
little
better,
because
now
you
don't
have
people
that
have
nine
or
ten
plaques,
because
they've
misplaced,
a
bunch
or
they're
hoarding
them
or
whatever.
The
case
is
because
I
just
do
think
that's
going
to
happen,
it's
easier
for
the
police
to
see
it's
one
sticker.
It
expires
just
like
a
you
know.
E
If
you
lived
up
north,
your
emission
stickers
that
you
had
and
they
can't
transform
and
then
they
can
buy
a
couple
visitor
spots,
I'm
already
seeing
just
from
some
citizen
comments
that
they're
already
talking
about.
Well,
I
want
to
park
in
front
of
my
house
and
I
have
a
driveway,
but
I
want
three
plaques.
I
think
we
need
to
really
look
at.
I
think
the
three
plaques,
if
we're
going
to
go
forward
with
this,
is
too
much
number
one
number
two.
E
You
know
you
do
have
it's
a
double
red
sword,
because
you
have
some
people
down
there
that
have
on-site
parking
and
you
have
some
people
down
there
that
have
off-site
parking.
So
are
we
going
to
look
at
frontage
or
are
we
going
to
look
at?
Well,
you
have
a
driveway,
so
you
only
get
one
plaque
I
mean
I'm.
I
know
I'm
going
down
that
rabbit
hole,
but
I
just
have,
I
feel
like
this
is
a
rabbit
hole,
we're
going
to
go
down
and
again.
E
I
know
this
has
probably
been
discussed
way
before
I
came
on,
but
I've
also
asked
for
a.
I
wanted
to
get
a
report
of
what
complaints
we've
had
thus
far
downtown
in
regards
to
people
sleeping
overnight
or
overnight
parking,
and
I
know
not
all
of
it
may
be
noticed,
and
maybe
some
people
just
aren't
making
those
calls.
P
Just
excuse
me
just
wanted
to
address
the
one
comment
that
council
member
states
you
made
about
foreign.
Thank
you
is
that
someone
could
have
ten
placards
because
they
kept
coming
in
and
say
I
lost
my
placard
because
they're
numbered
we'll
be
tracking
that
and
when
they
come
in
and
want
a
new
one
they're
going
to
have
to
say
well,
I
lost
permit
number
5096
that
permit
will
then
be
a
bit
invalidated
because
it's
been
lost
and
no
one
will
be
able
to
use
it.
C
Up
yeah:
this
is
something
that
the
neighborhood
actually
wants
so
and
there
had
been
an
issue
in
the
past
with
with
homelessness
and
people
sleeping
on
the
streets,
and
I
think
this
is
just
something
the
neighborhood
has
advocated
for
for
quite
a
while-
and
this
is
a
solution-
that's
been
come
to
through
the
neighborhood
working
with
the
staff.
So
I
think
this
is
a
good
solution.
D
I
Debbie
melissa.
I
would
like
to
direct
my
comments
to
you
sure
we
had
a
lot
of
complaints
early
on
about
people
sleeping
in
their
cars.
We
had
cars
that
had
been
abandoned,
some
of
them
didn't
even
have
tires,
and
without
an
ordinance
that
is
enforceable,
you
can't
do
anything
about
it
and
the
people.
I
I
think
when
an
entire
community
comes
to
city
council
and
says
we
need
this
to
feel
secure
in
our
homes.
We
need
this
to
feel
secure
in
our
neighborhood.
I
think
it
behooves
us
to
do
what
we
can
do
to
make
it
secure,
and
this
was
the
solution
that
the
civic
association
came
up
with.
This
was
a
solution
that
city
staff
came
up
with
and
I
don't
think
we
can
just
disregard
it,
because
we,
you
personally,
don't
think
it's
worth
the
hassle.
I
E
And
again,
I'm
not
discounting
that
if
the
residents
need
something
like
this,
I'm
100
for
it.
But
I
do
see
a
lot
of
holes
in
this
and
I
just
would
be
afraid
that
if
we
enacted
something
like
this,
we're
going
to
have
more
problems
down
the
road.
So
I'm
not
discounting
that
there
were
some
issues.
I'm
just
wondering
if
this
is
still
the
best
solution.
I
B
So
when
I
first
read
this
on
the
agenda,
I
thought
this
was
a
slam
dunk
and
I
would
but
I
think,
council
person
lockhart
brings
up
some
very
good
points,
and
I
agree
that
this
is
something
that
the
local
citizens
want
and
that
we
should
find
a
way
to
do
it.
But
I
do
think
that
she
brings
up
some
very
good
points
about
administratively.
This
might
not
be
the
the
most
efficient
and
best
solution
and
being
that
this
is
a
first
reading.
B
I
think
that
we
could
look
a
little
bit
further
and
try
to
find
a
way
to
refine
this
and-
and
there
is
we-
don't
have
to
go
to
a
beach
community
someplace
up
north.
We
have
what
I
think
is
a
potential
solution
right
here
in
punta
gorda
and
that's
in
seminole
lakes.
When
you
go
into
seminole
lakes,
you
have
a
barcode
sticker,
that's
on
your
window
and
you
drive
in,
and
it
reads
the
barcode
and
the
gate
opens
and
you
drive
through.
B
If
you
don't
have
the
bar
code,
the
gate
doesn't
open
and,
and
if
you
and
then
you
have
to
go
to
the
guy
and
the
guy
will
open
the
gate
for
you
if
you're
legitimate
and
you
sign
in
something
along
those
lines
that
already
exists
in
punta
gorda
now
granted.
There's
probably
some
costs
involved
in
that,
but
think
about
how
that
would
work.
You're
not
going
to
have
it's
a
fix
to
the
car
you're
not
going
to
have
separate
stickers
or
or
hang
tags
or
something
the
police
are
going
to
have
to
read.
B
When
the
officer
drives
down
the
road,
he
takes
a
little
barcode
gun,
just
like
you
have
at
walmart.
He
goes
as
he
goes
by
and
if
it
goes,
beep
that
that's
a
bad
one
ticket
and
and
if
you
need
one
for,
if
you
need
one
for
a
a
temporary
resident,
a
rental
they
could
spend
50
or
100
or
whatever
we
want
to
charge
them
for
a
temporary
sticker
and
that
sticker.
That
barcode
is
only
good
from
that
date
to
that
date
and
if
it's,
if
he's
there
outside
those
dates,
beep
ticket.
B
B
He
can't
give
merle
a
sticker,
so
so
no
hey,
but
but
there
are,
there
are
there's
technology
that
exists,
and
I
can't
believe
that
that's
that
expensive
to
do
a
barcode
as
opposed
to
doing
reflective,
hang
tags
and
buying
some
some
readers.
You
know
that
the
the
officers
could
have
in
their
cars
and
you
just
as
you
go
down
the
street.
I
think
I
think
that's
a
simpler
way
and
I
do
think
that
that
three
is
too
many,
and
so
I.
E
Now
you
have
somebody
that
you
know,
and
I'm
not,
but
there's
always
that
one
person
and
I'm
just
trying
to
be
devil's,
advocate
that
now
they're
going
to
take
advantage
of
it
and
you're
going
to
have
neighbors
and
residents
that
are
missing
out
on
parking
down
there,
because
you
have
that
one
or
two
bad
apple.
So
that
was
just
my
point.
I'm
not
saying
that
you
know
it's
not
a
good
thing
that
people
aren't
able
to
feel
comfortable
in
their
homes.
E
C
E
It's
not,
though,
so
if
you
have
a
sticker,
that's
adhered
to
a
car,
that's
for
mr
smith,
and
then
mr
mr
smith
says
hey.
I
have
an
airbnb
or
I've
got
a
neighbor
somebody's
coming.
They
go
down
to
the
clerk
of
court,
they
pay
for
an
extra
visitor
tag
and
the
clerk
of
course
says:
if
is
their
tags
good
for
how
long?
How
long
is
your
visitor
here
just
like
when
I
go
to
key
west?
How
long
are
you
in
the
hospital
or
the
hospital
hotel?
For
you
know
I'm
here
for
three
nights.
C
D
A
lot
of
good
comments,
I'm
only
going
to
address
one
tweak
that
might
address
the
issue
of
the
bad
apple
that
keeps
coming
in
and
saying:
they've
lost
their
tag,
they're
they're
entitled
to
one
bite
at
that
apple,
one
replacement
tag,
and,
after
that,
it's
easy
to
keep
track
of
how
many
replacement
tags
have
been
issued,
and
maybe
only
one
replacement
tag
in
every
five
year
period
or
three
year
period.
Whatever
would
would
suffice
to
address
that
that
particular
situation.
E
D
G
But
so,
if
I
could
just
to
go
back
to
the
administrative
burden
and
what
you
said
about
different
options,
we
looked
at
so
many
options.
I
can't
even
enumerate,
including
the
barcodes,
including
stickers,
including
all
kinds
of
things.
We
also
looked
at
the
problems
associated
with
that
and
the
administrative
burden
that's
associated
with
that
many
of
the
problems
associated
with
stickers,
regardless
of
the
color.
It
could
be
anything
from
dirt
on
the
car
to
tinted
windows
for
the
bar
codes.
We
looked
at
software
that
could
easily
take
clear
codes
and
enumerated.
G
We
were
looking
at
25,
000,
minimum
plus
installation
of
any
equipment
that
you
need,
because
when
a
police
officer
rides
down
the
street
and
he's
on
the
left
side
of
the
car
and
the
cars
are
on
the
right
hand,
side.
He
then
has
to
either
ride
the
opposite
way
down
the
street
or
have
a
barcode
reader
on
that
side,
because
there's
any
certain
amount
of
distance
or
try
to
hang
out
the
window
on
this
side
and
try
to
hit
a
barcode.
G
If
you
have
a
distance
one,
not
as
easy
as
a
gate
system
gate
system,
it
works
great.
So
what
we
settled
on,
after
looking
at
all
the
options
and
all
the
problems
with
the
options
and
the
cost
and
the
administrative
burden
it
was
caused,
is
something
that
was
done
by
a
lot
of
marinas
and
the
marinas
did
this
system.
They
simply
have
a
card
that
or
a
tag
that
you
hang
when
you're
there
you
pay
for
that.
G
G
It
was
the
simplest
and
easiest
way
to
go,
and
that's
why
we
did
it
this
way,
because
you
can
ride
down
the
streets.
You
can
see
every
car
that
has
tags
as
you
drive
by
and
if
it
doesn't
have
a
tag,
you
can
easily
find
out
why
it
could
be
abuse.
Certainly
there
could
be,
and
that's
one
of
the
downsides
of
this
this
system,
someone
could
say,
I
lost
a
tag
and
come
in
and
buy
10
and
the
10
that
they
lost
are
still
in
their
drawer
and
they
get
to
hand
them
out.
G
And
then
you
would
have
to
know
to
look
at
each
specific
number
to
know
that
that
one's
invalid,
which
again
you're
back
to
the
administrative
burden
of
doing
that,
so
not
a
perfect
system.
But
it
was
a
cheap,
easy
and
quick
way
to
get
something
done
because
it
had
already
been
two
years
and
if
we
go
with
software
equipment,
installation
processes,
all
these
different
things
we're
not.
There.
I
C
The
the
major
cost
is
really
the
cost
of
the
signs
they're
about
250,
a
piece
installed
and
they'll
need
about
60
of
them
in
order
to
have
the
ordinance,
in
effect,
the
actual
permits.
You
know,
I
think,
they're
about
two
dollars
a
piece
when
ordered
in
bulk,
so
it's
not
an
incredibly
costly
process.
The
major
expense
is
really
the
staff
time
to
implement
the
program
so
shaving
staff
time
as
much
as
possible
and
streamlining
that
part
of
the
process
is
the
real
cost
savings
from
any
of
these
types
of
ordinances.
A
A
G
And
again,
if
you
have
particular
stickers
or
placards
that
expire,
we
talked
about
that
changing
colors.
You
know
so
that
you
know
that
this
year
was
green.
Next
year's
red,
all
of
those
things
are
just
additional
cost
and
additional
administrative
burden.
It's
a
lot
of
work,
especially
the
expiration
and.
G
I
think
if
you're
gonna
do
it,
it
would
just
be
up
yeah,
it's
the
most
inexpensive
and
the
least
administrative
burden
and
by
administrative.
I
also
mean
on
the
police
officers
riding
by
looking
at
things
and
no
equipment
to
replace
or
maintain,
and
then
all
the
certification
and
it's
just
it
gets
into
a
lot.
Unless
you
do
a
full-blown
parking
program
where
you
have
parking
by
residential
permit
online
and
then
you're
talking
another
program.
G
You're,
looking
at
15
000,
if
you're
saying
it's
250
installed
per
sign
that
not
just
the
cost
of
the
sign,
though,
because
you
have
soft
cost
which
are
labor
in
that,
and
then
you
have
your
permits.
So
you
know,
if
you
have
300
permits
times
just
say
a
thousand
dollars
for
permits,
so
that
was
where
the
permit
part
was
the
most
inexpensive
in
signs
you're
going
to
have
no
matter
what
program
you
have,
because
you
have
to
put
those
up
to
save
parking
by
permit.
G
A
I'm
just
concerned
that
well,
first
of
all,
what
what
pot
of
money
is
going
to
pay
for
this
too,
I
I
you
know
cost
is
always
an
issue
when
you
come
up
with
new
projects
of
this
kind.
Is
it
budgeted?
What's
it
going
to
cost
and
what
budget
line
item
is
going
to
pay
for
it?
I
think
that's
something
that's
really
important
to
know,
but.
A
E
I
ask
a
question
and
that's:
I
did
want
to
ask
that
question
too
again,
being
new,
so
the
the
boats
that
are
out
there
anchored
and
they
come
in.
I
know
that
was
a
discussion
too,
that
some
of
them
were
leaving
cars
for
the
season.
While
they
were
out
there.
They
they
all
get
the
dinghies
get
passes
correct
and
that
could
be
up
to
ten.
A
E
R
R
Matthews
was
saying
that
vehicles
left
on
the
streets
there,
they
were
expired,
tags
parking,
real,
close
to
other
people's
driveways
and
couldn't
even
get
out
of
their
driveways,
but
recently,
the
last
year
last
12
months,
we've
only
had
four
parking
complaints
and
two
of
them
were
parking
on
the
grass
in
gilchrist,
and
one
was
a
u-haul
that
was
blocking
a
couple
parking
spots
and
the
other
one
was
parking
over
at
the
first
united
methodist
church.
So
we're
not
seeing
that
kind
of
a
problem
anymore
and
the
sleeping
in
the
vehicles.
R
We
had
five
of
those
and
only
two
were
downtown
and
one
was
actually
in
front
of
a
home
where
he
was
working
on
the
home.
So
I
don't
really
think
you
have
a
huge
issue,
but
it
is
to
address
some
other
other
things
such
as
being
able
to
to
have
places
to
park.
When
we
have
major
events
and
people
are
parking
overnight,
then
some
of
the
residents
don't
have
anywhere
to
park.
So
I
know
that's
part
of
the
the
reason
for
the
ordinance
as
well.
G
G
I
The
hang
tags
are
not
needed
during
the
day,
so
how
I
don't
see
how
anything
we
do
is
gonna
assure
a
resident
that
he
has
a
parking
place
unless
we
go
to
resident
stickers
only
like
they
do
in
some
places,
and
I
got
the
definite
feeling
from
the
civic
association
people
that
that
wasn't
what
they
wanted.
Well,.
I
I
R
C
I
mean
sometimes,
I
think
that
we
forget
that
downtown
historic
district
is
a
neighborhood,
and
I
think
this
is
why
we
do
this
is
because,
when
there
are
a
lot
of
events,
sorry
things
downtown
is
the
neighbors
end
up
bearing
the
weight
of
this,
and
this
is
the
way
in
which
neighbors
can
actually
live
their
life?
Really,
I
think
we
they
deserve
this.
B
Have
the
police
come
out
there
mark
the
tire
with
chalk?
And
if
it's
there
in
the
morning
and
the
chalk
is
on
there,
you
tow
it
and
now
we
don't,
we
don't
have
any
signs
and
we
don't
have
any
process
with
everything
else
and
that's
to
me
solves
a
long-term
overnight
problem.
I
I
they're
just
there's
a
lot
of
other
ways
to
eat
this,
that
that
to
me
well,.
B
B
Well
but
but
you
get
you,
you
have
the
ordinance,
but
we're
talking
about
how
we
enforce
it.
You
don't
need,
hang
tags,
you
could
just
have.
You
could
have
some
signs
and
then
you
don't
have
the
administrative
process
it's
up
to
the
it's
up
to
the
resident,
to
call
just
like
any
other
co-violation
and
all
all
somebody
has
to
do.
Is
this
official
has
to
go
out
there
and
mark
the
tire
they
do
that
they
do
that
in
a
lot
of
places
marking
tires
and
you
get
an
over
time.
Parking
might
not
be
the.
G
To
your
comment,
though,
if
you
have
the
signs
up
that
says,
you
know
what
you
said
and
you
do
have
a
complaint
and
you
run
the
tag
if
it
is
a
resident
of
the
city.
It'll
come
back
to
that
house.
If
it's
not,
if
it's
a
visitor,
it
could
come
back
anywhere
or
someone.
That's
here
less
than
six
months.
But
if
you
mark
the
tire
then
yes,
you
know
they
didn't
move
and
then
you
could
research
the
vehicle,
but
I'm
where
I'm
going
with
all.
G
E
A
A
O
O
O
C
L
Sandy
brant
once
again
just
two
comments
on
your
discussion.
One
is
that
I
do
believe
we
have
parking
ordinances
in
other
parts
of
the
city
right
now
and
we
do
not
have
signs
on
every
street
as
you
enter
telling
people
that
there
is
a
parking
ordinance.
So
I'm
not
clear
why
we
need
to
do
that
in
the
historic
district
at
expense
to
the
city.
There
may
be
some
other
regulation
that
we
fall
under.
A
A
G
Can
I
make
another
comment
just
for
information?
Yes,
that
when
people
apply
for
these
placards,
they
do
of
course
provide
proof
of
residency
and
the
placard
itself
is
tied
to
the
resident
and
the
address.
It
is
not
by
ordinance
stated
that
you
can
only
park
at
that
address
because
you
might
be
parking
down
the
street
because
you
know
whatever
reason
a
visitor
whatever.
G
But
if
there
is
a
complaint,
then
we
can
look
at
that
placard,
get
back
to
the
property
owner
and
say
someone's
complaining
that
you
have
seven
different
people
parking
here
and
they're
all
registered
to
your
address.
What
have
you
done?
You
know
to
make
sure
that
you
only
have
the
three
that
are
allocated
to
you
or
who
are
these
people
so
that
we
can
see
if
it's
a
violation
or
not,
so
it
is
tied
back
to
the
address
and
the
property
owner.
It's
just.
I
A
H
We
issued
the
solicitation
and
that
was
back
in
november
and
because
of
the
holiday
we
received
requests
to
to
kind
of
extend
the
due
date
for
the
solicitation
because
of
the
holidays
and
people
taking
off.
So
we
did
so
we
solicit.
We
sent
the
notices
to
put
my
classes
on.
I
believe
it
was
over
944
vendors,
19
vendors
viewed
the
solicitation
online
and
we
received
two
responses.
H
H
So
the
agreement
is
going
to
be
in
two
phases:
phase
one
will
be
the
pre-construction
and
phase
two
would
be
the
construction
portion
of
the
improvements
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
phase
one
has
been
negotiated
and
the
cost
would
be
222,
542
dollars
and
54
cents
during
phase
one.
We
will
negotiate
the
fees
and
structures
and
also
the
guaranteed
maximum
price
for
phase
two
of
for
construction
and
we'll
bring
that
back
to
council
for
your
approval,
staff
recommends
award
two
of
the
agreement
to
wharton
smith
of
fort
myers
florida
and
just
as
a
caveat.
A
R
A
H
C
Total
cost
estimate
for
this
award
is
three
hundred
and
ninety
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
and
twenty
one
dollars
and
thirty
four
cents.
The
total
cost
of
the
project
is
three
hundred
and
sixty
one
thousand
seven
hundred
and
twenty
one
dollars,
thirty
four
cents,
and
it
includes
a
condition
contingency
of
thirty
six
thousand
total
construction
time
to
complete
the
project
is
two
hundred
and
ten
calendar
days
and
in
order
to.
T
B
B
B
So
my
understanding
is,
it's
not
contiguous,
and
this
these
residents
will
be
signing
an
agreement
once
we
install
this
this
water
thing
that
once
they
become
contiguous,
they
will
automatically
annex.
But
my
question
is
because
a
lot
of
those
properties,
my
understanding,
are
on
sewer.
So
how
could
we
automatically
or
excuse
me
they're
not
on
sewer
they're
on
septic,
so
how?
How
would
we?
How
would
that
work
with
the
sewer,
because
we
wouldn't
automatically
annex
a
property
if
they're
on
septic?
Would
we.
G
That's
what
you
were
saying
in
general
when
they
applied
for
utilities,
but
this
water
line
extension
through
tea
and
green
does
several
things
one.
It
allows
residents
to
apply
for
utilities
that
are
not
yet
connected
to
water.
Correct,
yes,
and
also
one
of
our
main
benefits
is
we
have
three
dead
end
lines
that
this
then
connects
them,
so
that
creates
a
loop
and
that
loop
is.
B
E
H
E
The
only
other
ask
I
would
have
is
if
we
do
something
that
is
in
the
future
and
they're,
not
the
city,
you
could
just
put
a
little
like
a
map
of
where
tea
and
green
was
like,
maybe
where
it
was
going
to
affect
just
because
I
had
just
had
to
do
a
little
google,
not
that
I
can't
do
that.
But
you
know
what
I
mean
just
just
ask
that
was
going
to
be
yeah.
That
was,
I
was
going
to
ask
the
very
same.
A
So
there's
some
streets
in
the
tea
and
green
estates
that
are
already
on
our
water
service.
Yes,
okay,
all
right.
We
kind
of
need
to
know
that
stuff
when
we
get
these
agenda
package
information
things,
because
it
was
kind
of
vague-
and
I
was
very
it's
hard
to
explain
to
we
all
meet
with
groups
of
people
who
are
residents
from
the
city
and
we
talk
about
all
these
agenda
items
and
they
get.
They
ask
a
lot
of
questions
right.
Gary.
A
G
A
It's
very
helpful,
but
I
had
to
look
up
tea
and
green
too,
when
I
was
meeting
with
city
manager.
The
other
days
make
a
motion
to
approve.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
agreement
to
cobb
site
development
for
the
water
main
improvements
for
tea
and
green
estates.
Any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you.
A
H
Good
morning,
anne
heinen
for
the
record,
we
have
currently
a
blanket
notice
of
intended
decision
to
work
with
upland
software,
which
is
proprietary
software.
It
is
embedded
technology
that
the
city
has
been
utilizing
for
years
and
years
and
years
it
previously
was
with
api,
which
is
advanced,
processing
and
imaging.
H
H
H
H
The
reason
being
for
the
upgraded
software
is
to
help
the
migration
process
go
a
little
quicker
and
smoother
for
the
final
component,
which
is
the
largest
component
of
the
migration.
The
opti
workflow
system
is
a
system
that
all
of
the
departments
use
as
a
centralized
basis
for
request
hr
uses
it
finance
uses
it.
Procurement
uses
it
for
all
of
the
centralized
functions.
G
I
G
H
G
H
H
H
H
It's
just
the
maintenance
package
that
has
been
upgraded.
So
again,
we
look
to
you
to
see
if
you'd
like
to
upgrade
the
the
cap
a
little
bit.
If
should
the
migration
go
a
little
longer
than
anticipated
for
the
final
component
or
we
can
leave
it
and
come
back
to
you
if
we
do
need
additional
funds
next
year.
G
G
And
that's
what's
anticipated,
but
the
migration
of
this.
This
is
a
platform
that
every
department
uses
for
almost
everything,
so
it's
very
important
to
be
done
quickly
and
efficiently,
and
we
have,
during
previous
migrations
of
other
parts
of
the
software
we've
had
issues
with
you
know.
Database
of
fields
been
missed
and
the
data
didn't
transfer
or
scan
documents,
and
we've
had
to
go
back
and
have
them
redo
a
lot
of
things
that
took
a
lot
of
time
and
caused
a
lot
of
consternation
for
staff
for
that
migration.
H
The
software
package
is
48
000
to
33.85.
That's
already
been
expended
for
this
fiscal
year,
so
the
15
000
is
in
addition
to
the
48,
which
brings
it
to
63..
But
again
it's
an
upgraded
software
package
that
it
may
go
back
down
to
the
5000,
as
the
city
manager
just
alluded
to,
based
on
the
the
process
of
migrating.
H
G
A
C
G
F
I'm
the
it
manager
for
the
record
the
the
annual
support
package
that
we
normally
work
with
upland
on
is
is
gonna,
be
his
ten
thousand
dollars,
not
five
thousand
dollars.
It's
a
five.
It's
a
there's.
A
five
thousand
dollar
difference
the,
but
that
keeps
us
below
the
the
sixty
thousand
dollar
mark
and.
F
We
go
back
to
that.
To
that
level
support
the
the
the
the
package
that
we're
looking
one
we
we're
paying
we're
paying
for
it
with
savings
from
last
year,
reappropriated
money.
So
it's
not!
It
wasn't
budgeted
because
we
didn't
anticipate
the
need
for
it,
but
it
the
as
we've
gotten
into
the
project
the
ability
to
have
the
consulting
support.
It
gets
us
80
hours
of
consulting
support
from
upland.
It
gets
us
a
dedicated
project
manager.
I
A
G
If
I
could
just
say
one
more
thing
about
that,
there
are
different
levels
of
support
that
you
can
purchase
depending
on
your
needs.
So
that
is
what
cost
is
predicated
upon.
But
in
many
cases
like
when
oracle
took
over
peoplesoft
to
keep
using
that
example,
they
migrate
the
company
that
they
absorb
to
their
product,
and
you
have
two
choices:
you
can
either
migrate
to
their
product
or
you
can
go
out
and
look
at
another
product
to
completely
replace
it.
We
also
did
that
previously.
G
Yes,
we
did
and
much
more
expensive
than
this,
so
you
have
either
the
choice
of
continuing
to
use
a
product
in
the
new
form,
with
their
support
or
going
out
for
a
completely
new
product.
We
chose
the
less
expensive
way,
that's
also
well
engrained
into
the
city
operation
and
that's
why
we're
coming
in
with
this
right
now?
Yes,.
G
And
I
can
start
off
this
conversation
because
I
know
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussion
on
or
even
comments
through,
email
on
what
needs
to
happen
with
bicycles,
with
bicycle
lanes,
with
pedestrians,
with
motorized
vehicles
etc.
And
all
of
that
is
appropriate
and
good
comment.
That's
not
the
intent
of
this.
The
intent
of
this
is
simply
to
begin
to
promote
additional
awareness
tied
in
with
the
brochures
that
bicyclists
use,
especially
when
they're
new
to
the
city
that
team
puna
gorda
helps
distribute
that
has
all
the
maps
of
the
routes
in
the
city.
G
We're
also
putting
wording
like
this
into
those,
so
that
people
will
have
a
useful
document
not
just
for
maps
but
to
remind
them
that,
when
bicycles
are
on
the
harbor
walk
they're
a
pedestrian,
so
I
mean
just
like
a
pedestrian.
If
I'm
walking,
I
can't
jostle
other
pedestrians.
You
know
I
can't
I
can
pass
them
on
the
right
or
the
left.
I
can
pass
them
on
either
side
of
the
harbor
wall,
because
I'm
a
pedestrian
as
are
the
bicycles
and
when
it
comes
to
what
most
people
refer
to
as
motorized
vehicles.
G
So
when
we
look
at
all
the
ones
that
are
going
fast
and
doing
those,
what
we
need
to
do
is
try
to
slow
them
down
and
make
them
follow
the
rules
of
pedestrian
use,
as
opposed
to
saying
they
can't
be
there,
because
florida
statute
doesn't
say
that
they're
just
a
peddled
bicycle,
it
classifies
them
with
the
same
rights
and
responsibilities
as
a
regular
bicycle
that
does
not
have
a
motor
on
it.
So
we're
not
addressing
any
of
that
we're
trying
to
bring
awareness
as
a
first
step.
G
G
R
I
had
to
say
so,
but
this
is
one
of
the
number
one
complaints
that
our
bike.
We
have
our
volunteer
bike
patrol,
that's
out
there
on
a
daily
basis.
They
ride
all
the
walkways,
particularly
the
harbor,
walk,
constantly
getting
getting
complaints
about
the
bicyclists
flying
by
the
pedestrians,
not
signaling,
that
they
should
be
going
by
just
unsafe
operation
altogether.
R
So
one
of
the
members
was
in
tampa
and
saw
this
up
at
the
riverwalk
in
tampa
and
took
a
photo
of
it
and
thought
that
maybe
we
could
help
promote
the
safety
and
safe
operation
of
these
bicycles
by
getting
a
little
bit
more.
You
know
the
signage
out
there,
handing
out
the
brochures
and
things
like
that,
so
our
bike
patrol
unit,
the
volunteers
they
do
try
to
address
it
as
much
as
they
can
when
they
see
it.
But
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
for
educating.
A
I
think
we
need
to
do
it.
I
think
the
other
thing
is
that
we
need
to
make
a
big
public
display
of
information
about
not
only
this,
but
the
fact
that
electric
bikes
are
not
considered
motorized
vehicles.
That
is
something
that
I
was
enlightened
about
over
the
weekend.
When
I
got
a
citizen
question
and
the
chief
answered
my
email,
but
and
then
I
started
looking
up
details
on
it,
it's
not
just
a
state
statute.
It's
a
federal
statute.
R
And
just
to
have
you
the
state
statute,
it's
316.2065
and
it
specifically
says
that
it,
the
electric
bicycle,
is
a
vehicle
to
the
same
extent
as
a
bicycle,
so
and
and
when
you
go
look
at
the
motorized,
the
motor
vehicle
statute
definition,
it
specifically
says
every
these
different
things
are
motor
vehicles,
all
those
trucks,
things
like
that
except
electric
bikes
bicycles.
So
it's
clearly
marked
as
not
being
a
motorized
fight
mark.
B
So
I
and
I
completely
get
it
and
we've
got
two
different
kinds
of
people
using
the
same
thoroughfare.
But
to
the
ladies
point
earlier,
you
know
it
needs
to
be
a
two-way
street,
so
to
speak.
So
I
don't
think
there's
anything
wrong
with
putting
up
putting
down
these
signs
like
this.
That
say,
bikes
must
yield,
but
there
also
needs
to
be
signs
that
say
just
because
you're
walking,
you're,
not
oblivious,
I
mean
you
got
to
be
paying
attention.
B
B
Be
sitting
there
with
headphones
on
or
with
your
ear
for
your
hearing,
aids
turned
off
and
just
kind
of
walking
around
or
or
your
dog.
I
mean
you
see,
dogs
on
these
leashes
that
are
miles
long
and
somebody's
passing
somebody
and
all
of
a
sudden.
The
dog
goes
like
this,
and
now
you
got
a
real
problem
and
maybe
injuries
well,
sometimes.
R
B
Think
I
don't
think
that
it's
fair
to
put
it
all
on
the
bicyclist.
I
think
that
it's
that,
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
we
can
put
signs
that
that
both
ways
I
I
would
we
got
to
look
at
both
sides
of
this
and
everybody's
if
they
use
it
responsibly,
is
fine.
It's
the
couple
of
people
that
don't,
but
we
can't
just
make
this
a
bad
bicyclist.
B
G
Place
them
in
in
an
effort
to
try
to
prevent
sign
blatant
if
you
look,
for
example,
coming
down
part
of
kia
star
or
acquiesta
or
whatever
they
have
thermoplastic
on
the
road
right
now
we
install
thermoplastic
whether
it's
top
bars
or
whatever.
That
says
you
know
bicycle
wrap
basically,
and
we
can
use
the
thermoplastic
because
everyone
sees
them
as
they
go
over
them
and
not
dramatically
increase
sign
blade.
So
to
speak,
I
mean
by
putting
them
on
railings
and
such
especially
in
areas
of
the
harbor
walk
where
there's
not
a
railing.
G
So
we'll
have
nice
big
areas
that
we
know
are
long
stretches
that
foster
that
problem
and
that's
where
we'll
first
start
to
address
it
and
we're
going
to
do
it,
because
we
had
this
on
our
radar
before
and
we
appreciated
that
they
sent
us
the
pictures.
But
now
we
have
someone
that
has
offered
to
fund
this.
So
with
that
we'll
see
how
much
money
we
can
get
out
of
them
to
make
sure
that
we
can
put
as
many
of
these
down,
I
mean
there's
very
specific
areas
where
it's
more
of
a
problem
than
others.
G
G
Any
you
are
right
that
we
did
have
on
the
other
side
of
that
coin,
because
when
I
did
the
article
this
past
weekend
or
you
know
when
that
was
sent
in
actually
I
got
a
lot
of
comments
back
that
hey.
You
know.
You
said
too
much
about
bicyclist
right.
What
about
pedestrians
and
on
this
side,
it's
too
much
about
pedestrians?
What
about
bicycle
so
there's
both
sides
to
that
coin.
That's
very
well
put.
I
Well,
there
is
a
gentleman
on
the
bike
patrol.
That's
a
member
of
my
cabinet
and
one
of
the
things
that
he
wants
this,
for
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
of
people
who,
when
the
bike
patrol
stops
them
for
going
too
fast
or
for
you
know
not
they're
like
well,
doesn't
say
we
have
to
do
that,
and
so
this
would
be
a
first
step.
Now,
it's
going
to
say
it.
A
A
T
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
reviewing
all
of
the
city's
boards
and
committees
bylaws,
and
at
this
point
we've
got
two
for
you
today.
Don't
need
to
speak
up.
Well,
I'm
sorry
yeah.
So
our
utility
advisory
board
is
currently
a
seven
member
board
composed
of
city
residents.
It
provides
recommendations
on
matters
such
as
rate
studies,
ordinances
concerning
utilities,
the
utility
department's
budgets
and
other
issues
referred
to
the
board,
like
the
septic
disorder
master
plan
project.
T
T
We've
also
changed
terminology
for
officers
to
chair
and
vice
chair,
which
is
something
we
are
working
on.
Doing
with
all
of
the
boards
and
committees,
as
we
review
them,
and
we've
added
duty
b
regarding
the
board
providing
a
recommendation
on
rate
studies
and
changes
which
they
have
done
for
the
city.
Previously,
it
just
was
not
included
in
the
list
of
duties.
T
We
also
have
addressed
the
allowance
of
alternative
meeting
locations
while
we're
undergoing
renovations,
and
we
fleshed
out
the
meeting
procedure
in
alignment
with
the
board
member
handbook.
We've
also
gone
through
and
revised
language
regarding
continuances
to
be
consistent
with
that
used
for
the
quasi-judicial
procedures.
I
G
I
T
B
B
I
mean
if
city
staff
could
make
a
reasonable
explanation
and
answer
and
and
sometimes
it
may
be
good
to
have
a
lay
person
on
the
or
lay
people
on
the
committee,
because
then,
if
it
you
get
to
see
if
it
makes
sense
and
if
it
makes
sense
you
know,
then
then
that's,
I
think,
there's
value
to
that.
So
I
could
see
how
you
know
a
lay
person
could
be
on
the
on
on
any
of
these
committees
or
boards
and
still
contributing.
A
I
think
I
understand
what
debbie's
saying,
though,
it's
really
up
to
the
city
council
members
to
do
a
little
research
on
the
candidates
that
apply
for
some
of
these
seats,
because
you
get
to
a
point
with
some
of
the
committees
that
are
very
technical
building
board
is
a
perfect
example.
You
know
there
are
a
couple
of
citizen
members
of
that
board,
but
they
don't
have
building
board
experience.
They
don't
have
any
any
experience
in
the
building
industry.
A
Necessarily,
I
think
it's
up
to
us
to
look
through
the
resumes
and
and
do
some
due
diligence
when
we're
considering
somebody
for
a
committee
seat,
because
it
really
does
make
a
difference.
There's
a
couple
of
boards
that
I've
received
complaints
about
people
because
they
can
be
somewhat
disruptive
because
they
don't
know
the
answers
to
a
lot
of
things
and
they
tend
to
sit
there
and
ask
a
lot
more
questions
than
other
people,
because
they
don't
have
that
experience.
So
I
think
it
goes
hand
in
hand.
I
I
misunderstood
my
point,
I'm
not
saying
I
don't
want
lay
people
on.
I
think
that's
that's
what
our
city
is
made
up
of,
as
lay
people
giving
advice.
I'm
saying
I
think
this
is
too
much
we're
giving
them
too
much
authority
with
this
particular
group
of
of
regulations.
I
think
you
know
sure
alleged
dis
billing
dispute.
That's
that's
fine.
You
can
do
that
if
you
have
a
calculator,
you
know
a
public
petition
for
service,
that's
not
technical,
but
to
review
drawings
and
specifications.
A
I
Q
I
B
I
I
don't,
I
don't
see
any
problem
having
the
provision
in
there
I
mean,
if
they're
just
reviewing
it,
if
you're
having
a
discussion
by
definition,
somebody's
going
to
pull
out
a
planner
and
say
well.
This
is
what
I'm
talking
about.
So
they
are,
by
definition,
then
reviewing
the
document
as
long
as
they're,
not
making
a
decision
and
they're
just
advising
I
mean
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
wrong
with
having
them
review.
E
Maybe
just
don't,
I
think
what
w's
saying,
maybe
just
don't
put
that
as
one
of
their
duties
necessarily
just
kind
of
take
that
out
and
that
way,
if
they're,
if
they're
looking
at
them,
that's
fine.
You
know
in
the
in
the
course
of
what
what
other
things
are
doing,
but
maybe
just
take
that
out.
So
they
don't
think.
That's
specifically
a
job
that
they
have
to
do
is
that
maybe
more
of
a
is.
T
N
A
D
B
C
I
have
attended
a
lot
of
the
uab
meetings
and
again
it's
it's
not
necessarily
frequent
that
things
do
go
to
them,
but
they
do
look
at
various
things
like
when
we
were
doing
the
subject
to
sewer
and
you
know,
there's
varying
opinions.
So
it's
gathering
all
that
information
but
like
which
system
would
be
better
to
use
you
know,
and
so
you
get
that
input
from
them
because
they
did
they.
N
B
I
see,
I
think
sometimes
when
a
layperson
brings
up
a
question
that
the
expert
they
kind
of
look
past
it.
Sometimes
they
don't
see
it
so
by
limiting
that
we're
limiting
the
gathering
of
information.
I
don't
see
anything
wrong
with
having
a
discussion
and
asking
questions,
and
even
if
it's
out
of
your
scope
of
so
to
take
it
out,
says
that
they're
not
gonna,
see
it
and
then
they're
never
gonna
have
that
opportunity
to
ask
questions.
I
think
you
asked
the
question
yes.
I
Okay,
the
thing
just
before
says
petitions
concerning
utility
services
and
other
matters
referred
to
the
board
by
council
or
city
manager
that
takes
care
of
the
septic
to
sewer
the
utility
rates.
What
I'm
saying
is
what
bothers
me
is
a
specification
of
a
utility
drawing
that's
different
than
just
seeing
something
outside
the
box
and
asking
a
little
question.
That's
like
you
know,
we
have
certified
people
who
are
electricians.
Who
do
that?
I
P
P
So
they
were
a
valuable
resource
to
the
staff.
They
would
review
any
technical
specifications
for
and
provide
feedback.
They
did
not
make
any
even
back
then
didn't
make
any
decisions.
They
provided
input,
and
I
believe
that
this
is
the
same.
The
intent
is
the
same
that
they
would
simply
be
a
second
set
of
eyes
for
our
staff.
P
If,
if
staff
wants
to
use
them,
okay-
and
at
one
point
I
will
tell
you
also
the
board
felt
that
they
not
that
they
were
useless,
but
that
their
utility
had
waned
somewhat,
because
staff
was
skipping
over
them
with
things
like
the
ro
plant
and
going
straight
to
council,
and
they
really
do
want
to
help.
They
want
to
provide
that
input
and
they're
there
for
staff.
C
A
T
So
this
one
is
a
five-member
committee
composed
of
residents
of
the
bert
store
isles
canal,
maintenance
assessment
district.
It
provides
recommendations
on
matters
such
as
maintenance
of
existing
canals
and
navigable
channels.
Adoption
of
construction
standards
for
sea
walls
proposed
operational
budget
and
sources
of
revenue
proposed
ordinances
and
resolutions
pertaining
to
their
operations.
T
T
So
we
went
through
and
did
a
lot
of
the
same
changes
to
this
committee's
bylaws,
as
well
with
the
reorganization
of
information,
making
language
more
consistent,
something
that
would
be
different,
of
course,
would
be
their
duties.
We
revised
those
to
align
with
chapter
six,
for
example,
the
bylaws
stated
still
that
they
were
providing
recommendations.
Even
though
many
years
ago
it
had
been
decided
that
they
should
be
deciding
on
canal
construction
special
permits,
so
we've
revised
that
section
so
that
it's
apparent
and
very
clear.
That's
what's
happening.
T
We
also
added
a
duty
a5
regarding
providing
a
recommendation
on
the
inclusion
of
land
in
the
burnt
store
isles
canal,
maintenance,
assessment,
district
and
asics,
which
regards
providing
recommendations
on
variances,
which
impact
land
within
six
feet
of
the
sea
wall,
which
are
both
things
they
are
already
doing.
It
just
was
not
captured
within
the
bylaws.
I
D
G
G
A
They
need
to
be
around
residents
whether
we
can
support
that
legally
or
not.
I
don't
know
but
like,
but
it's
it's
become
a
problem
on
some
of
the
boards
and
committees
over
the
years
that
if
people
are
snowbirds
and
they're
only
here,
six
or
seven
months
a
year
they're
going
to
miss
three
meetings
or
more
it's.
It's
happened
and
we've
had
to
replace
people
on
boards
because
they
weren't
in
attendance
and
in
a
couple
of
cases
we
ran
into
a
problem.
A
You
may
remember:
we
talked
about
disbanding
possible
disbanding
of
a
committee
at
one
point,
because
not
only
did
they
not
have
a
lot
of
meetings,
but
the
board
members
didn't
show
up
half
the
time
and
we
didn't
even
have
a
quorum
for
one
meeting
so
and
that's
back
when
I
was
on
the
board
of
zoning
appeals,
but
many
years
ago.
So
anyway,
I
I
you
know
we
have
to
truly
enforce
that
missing
three
meetings
in
a
calendar
year
rule
if,
if
we're
going
to
allow
people
to
not
have
to
be
year-round
residents,
yeah.
D
B
Yeah
and
and
the
the
missing
to
me,
the
missing
three
meetings
requirement
is
more
restrictive
than
being
an
elector,
because
you,
if
you're
an
elector,
you
can
miss
six
meetings
right
if
you're,
here,
six
months
in
a
day,
if
these
committees
meet
once
a
month,
you
can
miss
six
meetings
and
be
okay.
What
the
rule
as
it
stands
is
three
meetings,
so
I
think
that's
more
restrictive
and
overrides
the
elector
issue.
To
start
with.
B
A
A
B
I
just
want
to
commend
the
the
city
clerk's
office
on
both
of
these
amendments.
I
mean
these
are
kind
of
things
that
really
make
your
head
hurt
when
you're
trying
to
look
at
the
agenda-
and
I
thought
you
did
an
outstanding
job
with
preparing
the
summary
and
then
providing
the
struck
out
version,
plus
the
the
actual
new
version
I
just
I
thought
going
through.
This
was
much
easier
for
the
effort
that
the
city
clerk's
office
put
in
to
preparing
it.
So
thank
you.
S
Good
morning,
melissa,
reichardt
assistant
city
manager,
as
most
of
you
know,
in
previous
years
we
have
had
listening
sessions
for
the
both
the
budget
and
the
strategic
plan.
The
last
two
years
with
covid.
We
strictly
took
comments
via
email
from
our
residents.
This
year
we
thought,
with
things
opening
up
quite
a
bit.
S
It
would
be
really
important
to
give
residents
the
opportunity
to
have
a
forum
in
front
of
u.s
city
council
to
provide
input
into
both
the
budget
and
to
the
city
into
the
strategic
plan
at
an
early
point
in
the
development
of
both
of
them.
So
that's.
What
we're
intent
is
here
today
is
to
listen
to
comments
as
to
what
residents
are
feeling
about
the
budget
if
they
have
specific
we're
really
looking
for
specific
recommendations.
S
So
an
example
of
a
specific
recommendation
would
be
to
direct
staff
to
look
at
if
charging
at
herald
court
center
would
provide
a
for
parking
would
provide
a
significant
source
of
revenue
for
the
city.
Is
that
something
that
residents
would
like
to
see
that
see
included
in
our
budgeting
process
in
our
strategic
planning
process?
S
S
These
are
ideas
that
could
help
enhance
the
city,
budget
or
ideas
of
areas
of
focus
for
the
city
moving
forward,
and
my
suggestion
to
you
would
be
to
run
this
just
as
you
do
with
any
other
public
comment
session,
like
the
rules
that
you
read
in
the
beginning,
where
you
would
limit
the
the
time
to
three
minutes
and
follow
the
rest
of
the
rules
of
conduct
as
they
apply.
But
that
is
completely
up
to
you
as
seen.
A
B
Well,
the
comment-
and
this
came
up
in
my
group-
my
advisory
group-
that
well
this
is
this
is
great,
but
it
was
to
my
knowledge.
This
was.
The
notice
of
this
was
only
included
in
the
agenda.
So
if
someone
is
reading
the
agenda
in
advance,
you
know
they
know
that
we're
going
to
do
this
and
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
read
the
agenda
because
there's.
S
Certainly
I'll
take
that
under
consideration.
It
was
also
in
the
newspaper
and
it
was
in
the
city
managers
column
as
well,
and
as
a
note
along
that
lines,
we
will
take
citizen
input
via
email
on
budget
and
strategic
plan
items
through
march
31st.
So
we
can
continue
to
get
that
message
out.
There.
I've
been
a
little
hesitant
to
use
some
of
the
social
media
platforms
just
because
of
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
had
with
them.
Lately,
oh.
B
I
I
I
got
to
email,
I
put
it
in
my
newsletter
as
one
of
my
four
first
things
so
that
they
would
see
that
before
they
read
the
rest
of
the
newsletter,
and
I
got
two
people
who
said
that
they
would
prefer
it
to
be
a
give
and
take
session,
like
we
usually
have
at
the
civic
association
so
that
there
was
number
one
a
presentation
first
and
then.
Secondly,
so
that
when
somebody
had
a
question
or
a
concern,
staff
could
answer
it.
S
Sure
this
really
isn't
intended
to
be
an
airing
of
a
grievance
kind
of
kind
of
session.
I
do
recall
the
sessions
that
you
had
mentioned
in
the
past
and,
quite
frankly,
we
didn't
get
a
lot
of
input
that
was
really
applicable
to
the
budget
or
to
strategic
planning
at
those
we
we
got
comments
and
we
had
questions
that
needed
to
be
addressed,
but
it
wasn't
really
the
type
of
feedback
that
the
city,
council,
chambers
kind
of
lends
itself
to
people
wanting
to
provide
and
that
this
is
just
a
suggestion
to
try
this
way
this
year.
A
And
we've
also
done
workshops
before
which
generated
the
same
sort
of
thing.
So
it's
it's
almost.
If
we're
not
going
to
get
response
from
people,
then
there's
no
point
in
scheduling
those,
and
we
know
we
do
from
email
right
yeah
I
mean
yeah
people,
people
frequently
send
emails.
So
and
that's
fine
any
other
comments.
S
This
was
strictly
a
listening
session,
so
if
anyone
in
the
audience
has
any
comments
they'd
like
to
make
to
the
budget
or
to
the
strategic
plan,
this
is
an
opportunity
to
do
so.
If
you're
not
prepared
at
this
time,
you
can
send
the
send
an
email
to
the
city
manager
at
cityofpunagordafl.com
and
all
of
that
information
then
will
be
shared
with
city
council,
but
we
do
welcome
your
participation
at
this
point.
S
A
G
I
was
in
the
audience
so
I'll
make
a
comment,
and
I'm
sitting
right
there
just
to
further
what
melissa
said
before
anyone
speaks
when
we
did
the
initial
presentation
to
cancel
on
the
budget
as
it
currently
stands
and
where
we're
going
moving
forward.
That
was
a
couple
meetings
ago,
and
that
was
in
preparation
for
actually
starting
to
get
public
input
and
also
then
preparing
the
budget
that
we
first
of
all
distributing
that
information
to
departments.
G
G
So
to
speak,
because
we've
already
made
the
presentation
to
council,
we
have
the
strategic
plan,
that's
been
included,
so
people
could
look
at
that
and,
as
melissa
said,
I
did
have
in
the
article
that
she
wrote.
That
was
in
the
paper
about
today's
session
when
it
was
in
the
saturday
paper.
So
people
knew
if
they
read
anything
about
the
city,
that
it
was
here
also
as
well
as
other
venues.
So
this
is
simply
one
of
an
opportunity
of
many
for
people
to
make
comments
on
what
they
think
about
where
we're
going
with
the
budget.
G
What
was
presented
a
couple
meetings
ago,
as
far
as
where
we
are
and
where
we
see
our
revenues
and
expenditures
going
and
what
we
need
to
address
for
the
coming
year
and
strategically,
which
is
in
the
plan
that
exists,
what
that
says
we're
doing
and
where
we
need
to
go
with
that.
If
anyone
has
any
comments
about,
you
should
add
this
to,
or
you
haven't
thought
of
this,
so
we're
budgetarily.
We
need,
you
know
more
taxes,
so
we
can
do
this.
That
isn't
being
done.
G
I'm
sure
we'll
hear
a
lot
of
that,
but
I'm
just
getting
on
that.
But
you
know
that's
the
intent
of
this
so
that
we
can
continue
to
further
the
presentation
that
was
just
made
to
cancel
a
couple
meetings
ago.
All
of
that's
online
and
available
take
our
strategic
plan
put
all
those
together,
as
we
start
moving
forward
in
the
budget
process,
to
get
to
update.
A
J
Patricia
gateway
point
I
don't
know
if
this
is
that's,
why
I'm
going
to
ask
and
I'll
sit
right
down
when
you
say
no
pat
have
a
seat
and
it
had
to
do
with
confidentiality
agreements
and
how
they're
used
here
by
the
city
and
I'm
trying
to
fit
this,
and
I
guess
it
won't
fit
into
the
budget,
but
maybe
strategic
planning.
I
was
going
to
bring
this
up
about
a
week
or
two
from
now
and
write
you
each
of
you
in
the
city
council
and
about
this.
J
I
know
there
was
a
confidentiality
agreement
made
with
the
potential
buyer
of
the
city
marketplace,
and
so
that
meant
that
none
of
you
could
discuss
anything.
If
I
had
any
questions
and
send
them
to
you
in
an
email
as
polite
as
you
all
are,
and
how
you
answer
me
and
I'm
I
understand
I
did
some
on
private
research,
even
though
I
don't
have
as
you
as
mark
was
talking
about.
J
B
A
A
The
agreement
that
is
being
referred
to
is
a
an
agreement
that
was
made
with
the
developer
and
the
city
and
the
city
had
a
certain
group
of
select
staff
members
who
were
privy
to
information
regarding
the
potential
sale
of
the
property
and
that's
all
it
was.
But
when
that
happens,
we
cannot
discuss
the
details
of
who
the
applicant
is
or
any
of
the
confidentiality
terms
of
that
agreement,
which
included
all
the
financial
aspects
of
it
and
any
specific
information
that
that
was
requested
of
the
app
by
the
applicant
of
us.
So.
J
Well
then,
I'll
review
it
again
and
send
those
information
out
to
everyone,
because
the
answer
that
I
got
is
that
it
stays
confidential
for
good
and
I'm.
I
was
just
a
little
uncomfortable
with
that,
and
I
was
just
going
to
try
to
find
out.
Do
you
have
any
others
like
with
the
medical
the
medical
hospital
wanting
to
do?
The
hundred
foot
is
all
that
is
that
under
that
category
or
whatever
I
would.
A
S
A
T
Good
afternoon
again
or
morning,
still
sarah
welch
for
the
record
under
vacancies.
We
have
two
unexpired
alternate
terms
on
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
Two
unexpired
alternate
terms
on
the
code
enforcement
board,
one
unexpired
alternate
term
on
the
historic
preservation,
advisory
board
and
one
regular
term
on
the
police
officer's
pension
board.
T
T
Mr
david
perry
has
received
a
majority
of
votes
and
is
appointed
to
the
board.
Thank
you
and
then
under
confirmation.
We
have
the
firefighters
pension
board's
fifth
member.
At
their
december
16
2021
meeting
the
board
selected
mr
justin
jarrow,
to
continue
to
serve
as
their
fifth
trustee
member.
We
are
looking
for
confirmation
for
the
reappointment
by
motion.
E
E
A
T
And
then
we
have
another
confirmation,
this
one
for
the
donation
review
committee
at
their
february,
24
2022,
meeting
the
historic
preservation
advisory
board
selected,
ms
donna
peterman,
to
serve
as
their
chair
and
according
to
the
bylaws
of
the
donation
review
committee.
That
makes
her
the
chair
of
the
donation
review
committee
as
well.
So
we
are
looking
for
confirmation
of
her
appointment.
I
A
G
Still
good
morning,
that's
good
thanks
good
morning,
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
obviously
you'll
be
hearing
a
lot
more
as
we
move
through
the
budget
cycle,
et
cetera
about
procedures,
things
that
we
do,
that
sometimes
are
budgetarily,
sometimes
they're,
just
evaluated
internally
to
see
if
we
can
do
them
better
or
more
efficiently,
but
the
first
year.
Our
focus
was
a
lot
of
financial
and
infrastructure
management
type
issues
that
really
drove
some
of
our
financial
projections
and
budgetary
requests.
G
G
A
I
have
a
question
for
you
please.
I
had
a
resident
asked
me
the
other
day
over
the
weekend.
I
guess
it
was.
There
was
one
evening
where,
or
maybe
it
was
even
monday
night
there
there
were
cars
parked
everywhere
downtown
the
parking
garage
was
full.
All
the
parking
lots
were
full
city
parking
lot
here
was
full
and
and
a
number
of
people
were
parking
in
the
city
parking
spots
under
the
solar
canopy,
and
they
said
a
lot
of
our
trucks
were
not
parked.
There
is,
is
that
are
we
parking
the
vehicle
somewhere
else
at
night?
A
G
G
A
A
Okay,
because
there
apparently
were
a
lot
of
general
civilian
cars
parked
in
a
lot
of
those
spots
and
everything
was
all
the
way
down.
Reda
all
the
way
to
the
boat
club
was
all
filled.
Everything
every
parking
space
was
filled.
There
were
people
parked
on
grass
in
the
street
and
all
kinds
of
places.
I
just
wondered
if
there
was
any
specific
rule
about
those
parking
spaces,
I
mean
my
opinion
is:
if
there's
a
sign
there,
you
don't
park
in
that
spot
and
that.
D
C
T
Cerebell
chicken
for
the
record,
finance
and
the
city
clerk's
office
are
scheduled
to
begin
the
move
out
of
city
hall.
Finally,
on
friday
april,
8th
the
move
into
the
offices
at
herald
court
will
continue
over
the
weekend
in
the
area
depicted
in
front
of
herald
court.
Let
me
pull
up
the
image
quickly
for
you.
T
T
Okay
and
on
another
note,
we
are
approaching
the
next
election
cycle.
The
qualifying
period
will
occur
from
monday
june
13th
at
noon
until
friday
june
17th
at
noon.
Hard
copy,
candidate
packets
will
be
available
next
monday
from
the
city
clerk's
office,
but
the
information
and
forms
needed
are
already
available
on
the
city's
website
under
the
city
clerk's
election
page
and
that's
all.
A
T
T
A
G
G
O
A
Okay,
all
right
under
mayor
comments-
I
just
have
one
thing
and
that
is
that
southwest
florida
league
of
cities
is
having
a
meeting
on
march
31
in
fort
myers.
If
any
of
the
council
members
are
ever
interested
in
attending
these
meetings
with
me,
you
are
welcome
to
do
so,
and
I
would
need
to
know
so.
I
can
make
a
reservation
for
you.
The
meeting
starts
they.
We
usually
arrive
between
11
o'clock
and
11
30,
and
it's
a
working
lunch
and
they
they
will
be
having
people
from
florida
league
of
cities
as
speakers
at
this
one.
A
A
31St,
I
will
I'll
send
out
an
official
piece
of
information
about
it.
With
the
details
about
the
flyer
that
that
I
got
and
then
I'll
make
the
reservations
for
everybody,
it's
free,
it
doesn't
cost
anything
it's
so
anybody
that
wants
to
ride
together
can
do
that.
Okay-
and
that's
all
I
have
council
member
count.
It's
mark.
B
So
I
know
I've
made
this
comment
previously
and
I'll
I'll
go
ahead
and
just
make
it
again
for
the
record
that,
in
my
opinion,
when
council
makes
a
decision,
whether
it's
this
council
or
a
previous
council,
that
decision
is
final
and
we
move
on.
If
we
continue
to
revisit
issues
that
we
especially
contentious
issues
that
we
have
discussed
and
made
decisions
on
over
and
over
again
we're
never
going
to
get
to
the
business
that
we
need
to
get
to.
So
I
I
just.
B
I
am
fundamentally
opposed
to
adding
things
back
to
an
agenda
that
we
have
made
a
decision
on
and
that
we're
moving
forward
on
and
and
that
we
don't
need
to
reopen
things
and
revisit
and
rehash
constantly
things
we'll
never
move
forward.
If
we,
if
we
continue
to
do
that,
so
said
it
before
I'll
say
it
again,
and
that
is
how
I
feel.