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San Bruno City Council Meeting November 24, 2020
6a. Scott Street Grade Separation Project
A
C
C
So
we
can
seek
additional
funds
to
fund
the
next
phase
of
the
project,
and
so
we
postponed
that
decision
for
additional
outreach
a
little
bit
over
two
months
and
now
we're
back
with
the
results
of
that
outreach,
and
there
is
a
vision
that
is
before
the
council
tonight.
Our
city
engineer,
a1
ridgeland
will
provide
the
presentation
and
there's
staff
as
well
as
consultants
that
are
attending
this
meeting,
that
are
able
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
council
may
have.
B
Thank
you,
city
manager,
grogan
good
evening
council,
honourable
mayor
and
council
city
council
members.
My
name
is
haiwan
ritchie
and
I'm
the
city
engineer
for
the
city
of
san
bruno,
I'm
here
to
provide
you
with
an
update
on
the
planning
study,
work
performed
between
august
and
november
of
2020
on
the
south,
linden
avenue
and
scott
street
caltrain
grade
separation,
project
city
manager.
B
I
also
would
like
to
add
that,
in
order
for
us
to
seek
funding
for
additional
phases,
we
do
need
to
complete
this
phase.
So
I
would
like
to
start
with
just
a
brief,
very
brief
overview
of
what
everybody's
separation
is.
A
great
separation
is
the
crossing
of
two
or
more
transportation
modes
at
different
elevations,
so
they
do
not
disrupt
the
flow
of
each
other.
An
example
of
this
would
be
at
huntington
and
san
bruno
avenue
where
the
caltrain
station
is
located.
In
that
case,
the
roadway
is
running
underneath
the
railroad
tracks
in
the
station.
B
B
This
is
the
agenda
for
the
presentation
tonight.
First
I'll
be
going
over
the
objectives,
summarize
the
work
performed
by
the
pdt
and
the
key
decisions
by
council
today
summarize
the
community
engagement
efforts
and
feedback
received
for
the
latest
round
between
august
and
november
of
2020
provide
staff
recommendation
answer
questions
receive
direction,
and
then
I
will
go
over
next
steps.
B
B
B
I
would
like
to
highlight
some
of
the
key
directions
that
have
been
provided
in
october
of
2018
staff
were
directed
to
conduct
a
traffic
study,
obtain
additional
community
feedback
on
the
alternatives,
and
this
include
at
the
time
of
the
railroad
and
the
crossing.
So
the
pdt
did
do
this.
In
november
2019,
the
results
of
the
traffic
study
and
community
outreach
were
presented.
B
B
Just
recently
in
august
of
2020,
he
also
provided
direction
to
proceed
with
the
alternative
that
would
allow
for
the
railroad
tracks
to
be
raised
two
and
a
half
feet.
However,
they
did
direct
staff
to
return
to
the
community
for
additional
feedback
on
the
pedestrian
bicycle
costing
type,
and
we
did
hear
this
loud
and
clear.
B
This
slide
summarizes
outreach
plan
for
the
last
round
of
community
engagement.
I
mean
reflecting
on
our
past
experience
and
with
being
in
covet,
things
had
changed
quite
a
bit,
and
so
the
pdt's
brainstormed
various
ideas
and
came
up
with
a
more
novel
approach
to
reach
community
members.
With
the
assistance
of
our
consultant,
a
calm,
a
virtual
open
house
was
created
that
would
allow
residents
and
community
to
view
models,
conceptual
renderings
and
photo
simulations
as
well
as
well
as
take
a
survey
on
a
website
platform.
B
B
B
The
survey
was
also
included
and
when
we,
when
I
went
door-to-door
there,
when
it
was
evident
that
spanish
translation
was
needed,
I
returned
with
the
trans
spanish
spanish
translator.
In
order
to
provide
you
know
better
service.
It
happened
to
be
when
I
returned.
There
was
another
resident
who
answered
the
door
and
I
was
able
to
see
with
them
in
english,
but
you
know
we
did
make
that
extra
effort
to
return
to
that
location.
B
So,
with
the
help
of
our
jennifer
dianos
and
our
city
managed
office,
we
also
issued
information
on
our
social
media.
We
posted
on
next
door,
facebook,
twitter
and
instagram.
We
utilize
the
city
manager's
newsletter,
installed
a
changeable
message
sign
with
the
help
of
our
streets
division.
I
know
they
are
stretch
thin,
so
it's
definitely
very
appreciated
and
I
have
some
photos
of
the
sign
I'm
in
a
subsequent
slide.
B
B
B
So
the
focus
of
the
community
outreach
was
to
direct
the
public
to
the
virtual
open
house.
In
my
more
informal
door-to-door.
You
know
there
were
some
off-the-cuff
responses.
I
think
I
had
shown
the
pictures
that
were
available
to
us
from
their
renderings
and
those
at
the
time
did
seem
to
favor
the
under
crossing.
B
B
There
is
a
link
on
the
main
page,
but
you
can
also
type
scott
street
grade
separation,
the
search
box,
and
it
will
be
the
first
result.
It
will
be
the
project
website,
but
the
virtual
open
house
link
can
be
accessed
from
there.
I
would
like
to
show
you
the
website
now
I'll
have
to
stop
sharing
momentarily
and
we
share
the
new
screen.
B
B
There
are
three
tutorials
that
are
a
com
team
produced
one,
an
overview
of
the
room,
the
pedestrian
bicycle
crossing
options,
as
well
as
how
to
navigate
the
survey,
and
if
you
pan
around
the
room,
I
will
come
back
to
the
center.
But
here
this
survey
is
now
closed.
It
was
open
from
october
15
to
november
4th,
but
that
this
is
where
the
survey
could
be
accessed
as
well
as
at
the
bottom
of
the
page.
Here
we
do
have
the
advantages
and
disadvantages
of
each
option,
which
I
will
also
have
in
a
subsequent
slide.
B
B
B
And
there
are
various
views
that
we
can
see
as
it
currently
exists
on
hermann
looking
north
and
then
what
it
would
look
like
with
an
overcrossing
we
had
shown
this
previously,
but
people
could
take
or
the
public
could
take.
You
know
their
time
and
looking
at
the
images,
and
so
here
we
have,
you
know
one
and
two
level
holes.
B
We
also
have
another
view
directly
looking
at
the
tracks
and
looking
south
on
hermann.
What
was
also
pretty
neat.
Was
this
3d
rendering
you
can
see
how
high
up
the
overcrossing
is?
It's
about
35
feet
up
and
with
eye
level,
maybe
being
at
five
feet?
That's
about
40,
feet
high
and
then
also
some
views
from
the
montgomery
side,
and
so
this
is
the
parking
lot
that
we're
envisioning
to
put
in
the
overcross
thing
and
the
under
crossing
opening
on
the
other
side
of
the
tracks.
B
Here
we
do
see
just
the
length
of
the
overcrossing,
you
can
see
some
switchbacks
and
you
can
see
that
in
the
bird's
eye
view
as
well
wraps
around
and
then,
if
you
can
also
look
at
the
under
crossing
option
again
the
image
of
shifts
to
the
under
crossing,
we
have
again
views
one
two
and
three
as
well
as
some
3d.
This
you
may
not
have
seen
previously
but
is
available
in
the
virtual
open
house,
is
what
the
image
would
look
like,
and
so
we
have.
B
B
So
I
would
like
to
provide
you
with
a
virtual,
open
house
statistics.
There
were
a
total
of
478
visits
from
october
15
to
november
4th
with
386
unique
visitors.
On
average
they
spent
12
to
14
minutes.
In
the
virtual
open
house
we
received
43
survey,
respondents
of
which
32
are
residents
or
businesses
within
the
fifth
edition
or
east
of
the
railroad
tracks
within
san
bruno
city
limits.
B
So
this
may
be
you
know,
residents
or
business
on
montgomery,
for
instance,
I
do
want
to
get
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
the
particular
options
of
overcrossing
the
under
crossings.
So
first
I'll
start
with
the
overcrossing.
This
is
the
bird's
eye
view
of
what
we're
looking
at
again.
We
have
a
ramp
on
the
herman
side
and
then
the
switchbacks
used
utilizing
that
parking
space
on
the
east
side.
B
B
B
This
is
the
under
crossing
bird's
eye
view.
Again
we
have
the
ramps
on
so
the
ramp
going
down
and
then
ramp
coming
back
up
on
the
other
side
of
the
railroad
tracks
with
the
tunnel.
Underneath
again,
the
magenta
shows
the
ramps.
The
yellow
is
the
stairs
and
the
brown
portion,
which
is
83
feet,
is
shown
in
the
tan
shading.
B
The
crossing
is
about
640
feet
in
length,
which
takes
about
three
minutes
to
traverse
is
compared
to
six
minutes
for
the
overcrossing.
So
it's
about
half
the
length
and
the
under
crossing
would
be
approximately
15
feet
down
and
15
feet
back
up,
so
construction
cost
is
not
a
major
differentiating
factor
between
the
crossing
types.
B
Some
of
the
considerations
that
are
included
in
the
advantage
of
disadvantages
are
the
privacy
for
an
overcrossing.
There
would
be
less
privacy
for
the
adjacent
residences
because
they
would
be
quite
a
bit
over
the
residences
in
terms
of
visibility.
Pedestrians
and
bicyclists
might
want
to
be
more
visible
when
using
the
crossing,
so
this
tends
to
favor
the
over
crossing,
but
there
could
be
times
because
of
the
structure
is
quite
large,
that
behind
switchbacks
visibility,
maintaining
visibility,
all
the
time
could
be
a
challenge.
B
There
is
less
susceptibility
to
flooding
with
the
under
crossing
visual
impacts.
Again,
then,
the
crosstalk
is
less
visually
impactful
and
travel
distance.
The
under
crossing
would
be
quicker
to
traverse
and
also
less
strenuous
to
cross,
because
it's
not
the
elevation
difference.
It's
not
quite
as
much.
We
do
want
to
know
that
encampments
was
a
consideration,
but
this
was
considered
to
be
more
neutral,
because
maintenance
would
be
required
for
either
both
over
and
under
crossings,
and
so
these
various
factors
were
parlayed
into
their
survey
questions.
B
There
were
multiple
ways
to
access
the
survey
and
the
survey
was
also
translated
into
spanish.
I
would
like
to
get
into
the
actual
survey
questions.
There
were
five
and
we
anticipate
that
it
would
take
five
minutes
or
less
to
answer
them.
The
first
question
were
to
provide
the
most
important
considerations
for
the
pedestrian
bicycle
crossing
and
the
ones
I
just
mentioned
were
the
ones
that
were
listed,
and
there
was
also
an
editor
that
someone
could
put
something
if
they
believe
that
they're,
not
all
light,
was
recovered.
B
The
second
question
is
fairly
straightforward,
which
pedestrian
bike
crossing
option.
Do
you
prefer
scott
street
option
one
with
overcrossing
or
option
tune
with
underclassmen
question
three?
Are
there
any
additional
questions
or
comments
about
the
project?
Question?
Four?
Where
do
you
live
fifth
edition,
other
neighborhood
in
san
bruno
or
other,
and
then
contact
information?
B
B
I
would
like
to
note
that,
so
these
are
the
main
considerations
that
were
selected
by
respondents
in
order
of
selection
highest
to
lowest
so
encampments
and
maintenance
was
the
top
consideration,
regardless
of
whether
it
wasn't
over
under
crossing
shorter
distance,
greater
travel,
greater
privacy
for
residents,
lessening
visual
impacts
were
the
top
three
and
I
would
like
to
know
that
those
should
favor
the
under
crossing.
So
it's
consistent
with
the
greater
selection
of
the
under
crossing
as
the
preference
visibility
of
pedestrians
followed.
That
other
various
reasons.
B
These
ranged
from
accessibility
ada.
Some
did
not
want
to
break
separation
at
all.
Some
wanted
a
tunnel
for
the
train,
which
I
think
is
not
physically
feasible.
They
just
want
to
make
sure
the
tunnel
is
more
aesthetically
pleasing
and
can't
one
respondent
said
that
encampment
was
a
concern,
but
they
recognized
that
there
could
be
potential.
You
know
for
spaces
underneath
supporting
structures
with
the
overcrossing,
and
then
one
respondent
said
that
they
would
like
to
minimize
the
vertical
movement
of
pedestrians
up
and
down
or
down
and
up
and
then
less
susceptible
to
flooding.
B
With
this
last
option,
with
seven
favoring
that
so,
staff
recommendation
is
to
support
the
pedestrian
bicycle
under
crossing.
There
is
community
support.
There
would
be
a
shorter
travel
distance,
less
visual
impact
to
the
community
and
greater
privacy
for
the
residents,
which
were
some
of
the
top
concerns
that
were
expressed.
B
Maintenance
agreements
are
typically
developed
and
negotiated
between
final
design
and
construction,
but
this
discussion
can
occur
sooner
and
caltrain
has
indicated
that
you
can
have
that
discussion.
We
heard
loud
and
clear
that
this
was
a
high
priority
and
we
can
begin
having
those
discussions.
A
good
place
to
start
might
be
an
existing
maintenance
group.
We
already
have
for
san
bernardino
avenue,
reflecting
on
what
has
worked
and
what
hasn't
worked
and
what
could
be
improved.
B
B
These
discussions,
other
maintenance
aspects
that
are
subject
to
discussion
and
negotiating
include
cleaning
and
frequency
graffiti
removal,
storm
water
and
sewer
pumping
systems
tree
and
vegetation
maintenance,
etc,
and
capturing
to
indicate
that
they
typically
assume
responsibly
for
rail,
related
maintenance.
So
for
the
pedestrian
bicycle
crossing
caltrans
would
likely
maintain
the
structure
and
the
lighting.
A
And
then,
if
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
that
are
with
us,
that
did
want
to
speak
on
this
item.
If
you
could
also
go
ahead
and
raise
your
virtual
hand-
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
call
on
you
next
after
we
go
by
council,
real
quick,
none
from
council
member
davis,
anything
else
before
I
go
to
public
for
right
now:
okay,.
E
A
quick
question
mayor,
yes,
juan,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done.
I've
attended
some
of
the
meetings
and
you're
just
really
well
balanced.
As
far
as
your
responses
to
the
community,
I
did
want
to
ask
one
of
the
issues
that
we've
heard
about
is
obviously
the
homeless,
the
potential
for
homeless
or
in
the
underpass,
and
I'm
just
curious
to
know
if
there
is
an
existing
underpass
that
I
was
that
I
went
and
walked
through
and
I'm
curious
to
know.
E
B
What
we've
heard
from
the
police
is
that
there
have
not
been
issues
with
homelessness
in
the
past
one
to
two
years.
I
I
if
the
chief
would
like
to
try
me
on
that
that
it's
more
than
welcome,
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
request
clarification.
Are
you
speaking
of
the
other
underpass
that
were
in
san
bruno.
E
B
A
F
F
F
So
I
want
to
say
something
and
we
lived
in
scott
street
for
many
years
and
I
I
visited
website
before,
but
I
didn't
vote.
The
reason
is
I
don't
like
both
design.
Actually,
I
suppose
I
I
support
the
overcrossing
strategy.
However,
it
is
not
a
good
design
because
we
have
a
long
distance
travel
and
it
looks.
F
It
doesn't
look
that
good
so
to
resolve
the
ada
issue.
We
can
use
an
elevator
for
that,
just
like
the
control
stations
here,
so
why
we
need
to
build
that
the
long
run
and
that
give
people
that
long
distance,
just
like
an
open
space
to
stand
there
to
observe
the
the
area.
It
is
not
a.
We
only
need
to
build
a
small
space
here
and
to
build
an
elevator
to
let
the
people
go
up
and
just
we
can
you
use
a
normal
steer
thing
to
wrap
it
up
as
a
design
professional.
F
F
There
are
always
homeless
people
under
the
bridge
place
and
we
can
see
the
tents
we
can
see
the
abandoned,
sofa
and
a
lot
of
things
there,
because
this
area
is
close
to
target
and-
and
it
is
not
far
away
to
10
from
more
and
it
is
a
busy
place.
So
it
is
a
reason.
I
have
a
concern
that
the
under
crossing
will
have
the
homeless
people
because
it
is
happening
under
highway
380.
F
If
any
of
you
drive
here
in
the
past
here,
you
will
see
something
and
highways
created
this
area.
It
is
only
a
quarter
mile
through
the
squad
and
the
intersection
between
scott
and
the
hermann
street.
So
it
is
a
major
concern
for
for
that,
and
I
believe
I
still
support
the
overcrossing
strategy,
but
I
don't
support
the
design
and
I
have
a
feeling
that
so
the
city
just
provide
not
that
good
design
to
put
it
there
and
we
have
no
choice.
Sometimes
I
read
the
website
a
couple
times.
F
A
You
you
had
your
three
minutes,
the
other,
but
but
john.
If
you
wanted
to
continue,
please
feel
free
yeah.
That
was
the
only
thing
I
was
just
noting
that
on
mobile
you
can't
actually,
you
cannot
actually
access
the
survey
from
the
proposed
website
that
could
influence
the
survey
results.
That's
all
I
was
saying.
Okay.
Thank
you,
mr
franklin.
Okay
is
there
any
other
public
comment.
A
A
G
A
G
That's
that's
fine.
So,
to
I
understand,
a
number
of
the
survey
takers
were
concerned
about
the
homeless,
and
will
this
design
have
some
like
video
cameras?
Is
that
something
that
we'll
talk
about
later?
To
kind
of
like
for
added
security,
that
these
cameras
would
be
operating
in
comparison
to
this
tunnel?
B
Yes,
so
from
to
respond
to
whether
we
heard
directly
from
the
residents
who
would
be
most
impacted,
those
are
the
homes
that
I
went
door
to
door.
I
had
printouts
of
the
the
renderings
with
me
so
that
I
could
show
them
to
them
just
so
that
they
were
aware.
You
know,
most
of
them
actually
were
aware
of
the
projects.
B
Some
you
know
we're
following
more
closely
than
others,
but
I
really
wanted
to
highlight
to
them
that
these
are
available
for
them
to
view.
I
would
like
to
say
several
of
them.
I
want
to
say
that
three
had
expressed
that
they
prefer
the
under
crossing
upon
viewing
the
handouts
that
I
had.
But
I
did
not.
You
know
my
emphasis
more
was
for
them
to
actually
really
take
the
time,
because
I
mean
I
took
my
time
going.
B
B
I
do
want
to
say
that
the
third
time
I
went
back
there
was
one
household
and
I
did
notice
that
they
had
voted
for
the
over
crossing,
and
so
one
did
prefer
how
the
overcrossing
looked,
and
they
were
more
on
the
north
and
near
bay
shore
circle,
but
those
right
at
scott
street.
I
would
say
there
were
three
sort
of
right
near
each
other.
That
said,
oh,
you
know,
I
think
I'd
prefer
the
under
crossing,
and
so
that
was
my.
B
You
know
my
informal
survey
when
I
spoke
to
them
door-to-door,
really
my
emphasis
was
to
get
them.
You
know
to
look
at
the
virtual
room
and
do
the
survey,
but
that
is
what
I
heard
as
far
as
homeless
enchantments.
I
think
that
is
something
that
was
in
the
survey
as
one
of
the
options,
and
that
was
one
of
the
most
selective
items.
B
Actually
it
was
the
top
one
was
encampments
and
vandalism,
and
you
know
those
would
have
to
be
addressed
in
the
maintenance
and
response
plan
that
would
be
developed,
and
so
you
know
there
there
was
recognition
that
that
is
a
concern
and
we
wanted
to.
You
know
have
that
as
an
option
available
in
the
survey
for
them
for
the
community
to
express
that
you
know
they
can
always
say
as
an
other,
but
I
think
we
had
heard
enough.
There
was
enough
of
a
concern
that
we
added
that.
B
So
that
was
one
of
the
top
concerns
in
terms
of
specific
measures
to
deal
with
surveillance.
With
video
cameras
I
may
just
speak
with,
have
caltrain
discuss
whether
they
have
that
existing
stations,
but
I
think
that
is,
you
know
part
of
the
design
and
could
be.
You
know
further
discussed
as
we
go
along.
And
how
long
is
this?
This
particular
tunnel
is
83
feet.
B
D
D
Thank
you.
So,
first
of
all
I
just
wanted.
I
wanted
to
thank
staff
for
the
effort
that
went
into
this
and
we
we
asked
for
more
community
input
and
you
guys
really
stepped
up.
I
think
the
the
virtual
tour
is
is
really
great
at
providing
a
different
perspective
and
really
helping
people
visualize
what
each
of
these
solutions
represents,
and
so
thank
you
for
going
that
extra
effort
and
responding
to
our
request
during
these
covet
times
it.
D
I
know
it's
difficult
and
you
know
we
had
the
the
community
meetings
before
and
we've
actually
come
a
long
way
and
we
had
a
lot
of
really
serious
concerns
back
in
the
beginning
where
people
thought
they
might
lose
their
properties
and
we've
addressed
all
those
issues,
and
you
know,
staff
has
done
a
fantastic
job
of
addressing
the
issues
and
and
making
the
information
readily
available.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
staff
for
for
getting
us
getting
us
to
this
point,
and
then
you
know
the.
D
I
think
the
homeless
issue
still
is
it's
still
a
concern
and
a
lot
of
people
are
very
frightened
about
that.
I
I
think
that,
with
adequate
lighting,
it
looks
like
the
design
that's
being
proposed
is
open
enough,
where
we
should
be
able
to
make
that
area
not
as
intimidating
for
people
to
approach
it.
D
Even
you
know,
as
you
know,
coming
in
later
in
the
day
or
early
in
the
morning,
when
it's
dark,
that's
going
to
be
important,
so
I
I
know
the
staff
report
included
a
copy
of
our
previous
agreement
for
the
other
great
separations,
and
it
did
address
a
lot
of
those
issues.
So
I
think
it
would
definitely
be
important
for
us
to
include
those
going
forward.
D
It
also
included
in
there
was
video
surveillance,
so
I
know
that
caltrain
does
actively
monitor
their
stations.
I
believe
it's
actually
monitored
by
the
transit
police,
which
is
that
that's
a
function
of
the
sheriff's
department,
if
possible,
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
better
integration
between
trans
police
and
our
local
pd.
D
So
if
there
are
issues
that
we
would
be
able
to
address
those
a
little
faster
than
having
to
wait
for
a
response,
you
know
to
go
to
the
transit
police
in
san
carlos
and
then
get
dispatched
back
out
to
to
the
sheriff's
department.
If
we
can,
you
know
have
a
way
to
address
those
issues
by
you
know
having
the
pd
involved
more
in
any
safety
issues
that
might
arise.
D
You
know,
I
don't
think
I've
seen
any.
You
know
the
emergency
sort
of
phones
or
you
know
the
the
systems
they
have
and
some
other
places
where
you
can.
You
know
if
there
is
a
an
issue,
you
can
just
pick
up
a
phone
and
get
a
direct
line
to
the
police,
and
you
know
possibly
incorporating
something
like
that
might
also
assist
with
making
people
feel
more
comfortable
with
with
the
underpass.
H
I'm
gonna
echo
what
my
colleagues
have
already
said,
but
I
I
think
I
have
to
just
say
it
again.
I
mean
this
presentation.
The
work
that
you've
done
haiwan
on
the
department
has
been
outstanding,
even
the
street
sign
on
herman
to
encourage
people
to
go
out
on
the
website.
You
know
the
door
hangers,
you
know
we've
given
the
community
an
opportunity
to
speak
up.
Am
I
sad
to
see
very
few
responses?
Yes,
I
am
do
the
numbers
sway
me
one
way
or
the
other
just
because
one
is
60
more
than
the
other?
H
No,
because,
honestly,
this
is
a
low
number
for
the
residents
who
live
in
that
community
or
even
businesses,
but
safety
is
number
one
for
me.
It's
a
heart.
It's
a
tough
one.
I
I
know
what
it
feels
like
to
feel
like
somebody's
looking
into
your
backyard.
You
know
any
time.
There's
new
construction
around
your
neighborhood.
Somebody
puts
a
second
story
addition.
H
This
one
to
me
provides
a
potential
safety
concern.
We
can't
even
take
care
of
pigeon
poop
underneath
the
caltrans
station
at
san
bernardino
avenue.
I
mean
it's
such
a
it's
such
burden
that
we
have
with
caltrans,
and
I
know
that
they're
out
there
all
the
time,
because
the
amount
of
things
that
happen
at
the
stations
are
pretty
pretty
disgusting.
H
They're
out
there
sometimes
daily
the
stuff
that
they've
done
to
the
elevators,
the
stuff
they've
done
inside
the
elevators,
so
it
exists,
vandalism
exists
and
I
just
am
fearful
of
the
neighborhood,
and
I
question
whether
or
not
we
sacrifice
safety
for
something
that
might
be
aesthetically,
not
pleasing.
So
what
are
some
of
the
comments?
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
C
A
Okay,
most
have
spoken,
and
you
know
the
aesthetics
of
the
the
elevation
and
the
distance
of
travel.
I
don't
know
that
elevators
are
going
to
add,
but
a
potential
challenge
as
far
as
operational,
what
what
happens
in
them?
Obviously,
if
it
goes
down
it's
going
to
preclude
folks
from
going
across,
I
think
that
it's
important
what
some
of
my
colleagues
had
said
about
the
lighting
about
the
video
about
the
transit
authority
and
vice
mayor's
correct.
A
So
when
we
have
an
incident
on
the
track,
you
know
our
emergency
vehicles
respond
and
then
they
wait
for
the
transit
in
order
to
hand
it
over
them
to
continue
whatever
investigation
in
or
things
that
may
exist.
So
for
me
personally
at
this
time-
and
I
do
know,
there's
importance
with
dealing
with
south
city
as
well
as
trying
to
secure
additional
funding
source.
So
at
this
time
I'm
leaning
toward
the
underprep
other
comments.
G
D
Yeah,
I
think
that's
an
excellent
point
about
the
the
maintenance
agreement.
You
know
I
I
I
know
that
that's
something
that
would
definitely
come
back
to
us,
but
I
know
that,
with
the
experience
we've
had
with
the
last
the
last
great
separation
that
it
would
make
sense
for
us
to
make
sure
we
have
some
agreements
in
place.
I
know
that
it's
very
it's
very
early
in
the
process
right
now,
but
that
that
is
a
good
point.
D
It
would
have
been
nice
to
have
input
from
you
know.
Maybe
you
know
some
members
that
have
you
know
mobility
issues
just
to
get
their
take
on
it
because
it
does
seem
like
the
under
crossing
is
an
easier
one
to
navigate,
if,
if
say
you're
in
a
wheelchair
or
using
a
cane
or
or
a
walker
or
something
trying
to
get
up,
those
huge
switchbacks
is
hard.
I've
done
it
on
a
bicycle
and
it's
hard,
and
you
know
I
can
imagine
it
would
be
challenging
for
them
as
well.
H
It's
a
tough
one
for
me.
I
can
honestly
tell
you
I
just
I've
seen
too
many
other
locations
with
undercross
scenes
that
don't
get
maintained,
they
smell
like
urine,
they're
just
dangerous.
I
don't
know.
I
would
really
let
my
kids
go
underneath
there
if
it
was
developed,
but
I
understand
what
the
the
majority
have
said,
and
so
I
can
support
that
and
I
can
support
stats
recommendation.
But
it's
it's.
It's
a
tough
one.
A
A
Well,
wait
a
minute
wait,
a
minute.
That
is
something
that
I
think
what
council
is
asking
for
is
to
see
it.
I
don't
know
that
we're
asking
to
sit
down
and
negotiate
an
agreement,
but
we
want
to
see
the
final
product
and-
and
I
think
what
it
goes
to
is,
for
example,
though
it
gets
very
technical.
In
the
current
grade
separation,
the
pumps
were
not
adequate
to
pump
the
water
that
they
installed
now
would
we
have
known
that
in
a
maintenance
agreement?