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From YouTube: San Bruno City Council Meeting March 2, 2021
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San Bruno City Council Meeting March 2, 2021
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A
A
D
A
A
B
Let's
begin
from
the
beginning.
Okay,
can
everyone
see
that
okay,
so
good
evening
city,
council,
javon,
grogan
city
manager,
I'm
joined
tonight
by
a
host
of
characters,
so
one
is
craig
whidham,
a
management
consulting
consultant
from
mrg.
The
council
will
remember.
Craig
woodham
is
the
former
assistant
city
manager
in
vallejo,
who
is
now
a
consultant
and
he
helped
us
out
or
has
been
helping
us
out
with
a
analysis
of
the
community
and
economic
development
department.
B
It
is
important
that
we
got
to
this
point
because,
as
you'll
see
in
the
presentation,
our
user
fees
and
the
data
that
went
into
this
study
are
based
on
our
cost
every
year
our
costs
change,
and
so,
if
we
do
not,
if
we
didn't
finalize
the
report
now
and
we
waited
until
next
fiscal
year,
we
would
be
updating
the
the
data
yet
again
based
on
new
costs
in
the
new
fiscal
year.
So
closing
this
out
this
year
is
important
from
a
time
and
a
process
perspective.
B
We'll
do
a
deep
dive
on
community
service,
community
services
fees,
our
park,
recreation
and
library
fees,
because
we
are
recommending
a
a
change
to
that
model
and
how
to
charge
those
fees
and
how
we
set
them.
We
will
also
talk
about
some
of
the
most
common
fees
and
provide
a
comparison
to
other
cities.
As
a
note
when
you
set
fees
they're
based
on
your
cost,
but
it's
also
important
just
to
do
a
quick
scan
and
see
where
your
neighboring
cities
lie.
B
D
B
B
Most
cities
have
a
practice
of
updating
their
fees
and
doing
a
comprehensive
update
every
five
years.
Our
last
comprehensive
update
of
our
fees,
we're
in
20
2005
2016
fiscal
year,
so
we're
nearly
15
or
16
years
behind
updating
our
fees,
and
so
our
fees
have
not
kept
pace
with
the
cost
of
our
services
and-
and
we
know
that
in
a
couple
different
ways,
because
we
know
that
we
are
subsidizing
the
number
of
our
services
to
a
greater
degree
than
some
of
our
our
neighboring
municipalities.
B
And
we,
we
have
often
talked
about
the
charges
in
development
review
and
how
our
charges
are
less
than
what
a
what
the
same
developer
would
pay
in
just
a
neighboring
city
over
and
so
it's
important
to
re-baseline
our
fees
so
that
we're
covering
our
costs,
user
fees,
fund,
city
services,
not
all
city
services,
are
paid
by
general
tax
dollars.
That's
important
and
so.
B
We
know
we
recognize.
It
is
never
a
good
time
to
increase
these.
No
one
ever
wants
to
increase
fees,
probably
why
they
haven't
been
increased
in
15
years,
and
we
do
not
bring
this
recommendation
to
you.
One
of
the
things
we
know
is
that
when
the
fees
do
not
keep
pace
with
the
cost
of
services,
really
three
things
occur.
B
You
increase
the
city
subsidy
both
for
public
and
private
benefit
services
that
either
results
in
a
drawdown
of
your
reserves,
or
it
limits
funding
for
other
activities,
and
we
know
that
very
well
because,
as
our
costs
have
increased,
we've
had
to
make
strategic
budget
decisions
because
we
haven't
increased
our
fees
on
what
we're
not
going
to
do
or
what.
What
essentially
falls
on
the
cutting
room
floor
during
budget
time,
because
money
is
money
that
would
go
to
fund
that
service
is
going
elsewhere.
B
That
revenue
shortfall,
and
so
essentially
you
do
more
with
less
or
you
cut
in
other
areas,
because
you,
you
haven't
increased
the
fee
and
then
what
we
also
know
is
that
when
you
don't
have
a
regular
occurrence
of
increasing
your
fees,
your
future
fee
increases
typically
need
to
be
larger
to
catch
up
and
you're
off
you're,
sometimes
actually
paying
more
for
the
deferred
maintenance,
because
you
didn't
budget
over
time
to
save.
For
those-
and
it's
also
sort
of
globally
important
to
note
that.
B
We
can
affect
how
much
we
charge
well
the
piece
of
the
equation
on
expenditures
oftentimes.
We
have
almost
no
control
over
a
lot
of
those
costs.
We
are
not
on
an
item,
our
costs
go
up
for
regular
expenditures,
contract
expenditures
and
even
our
personnel
costs
go
up
driven
by
factors
that
we
don't
control
and
so
that,
unfortunately,
that
happens
every
year
and
we
can
work
at
being
more
efficient.
B
B
D
B
G
B
B
D
B
B
And
they
really
fall
into
three
primary
buttons
development
review
fees.
Now
development
review
is
not
a
term
that
we
use
a
lot
publicly,
but
when
we
say
development
review
we
mean
planning
fees,
building
fees,
public
works,
encroachment
fees,
fire
marshal
fees,
because
our
fire
department
goes
out
and
inspects
buildings
and
those
all
relate
to
what
we
call
under
the
umbrella
of
development
review.
It
has
something
to
do
with
a
building
or
property
and
invisible
work
being
done.
B
The
next
category
of
fees
are
program
or
service
fees,
aquatics,
rec
programs,
library
fees,
etc.
Camp
fees,
the
third
bucket
of
fees,
are
operational
fees,
so
these
are
processing
charges,
copying
charges
a
live
scan
fee
for
a
thumb
print
at
the
police
department.
Things
like
that,
and
so
those
are
the
three
buckets
of
the
fees
that
we're
talking
about
today
and
that's,
I
think,
helpful
grounding
for.
B
But
we
launched
this
comprehensive
fiscal
sustainability
project
because
we
recognize
that
there
was
some
significant
risk
to
the
general
fund,
and
so,
let's
take
a
moment
to
re
recap
some
of
those
and
understand
how
this
important
project
fits
in
and
so
at
a
high
level.
What
are
some
of
our
accomplishments-
and
some
of
these
include
things
that
were
triggered
by
covet
19,
because
this
was
a
living
and
breathing
project
and
we
had
to
adapt
due
to
cold
19..
B
So
some
of
our
revenue
enhancement
measures
are
our
measures
that
we
put
before
the
voters.
So
three
measures.
In
the
last
roughly
two
years,
two
and
a
half
years,
mr
g,
bringing
in
5.5
to
4
million
dollars.
The
4
million
is
the
pre-covered
number.
The
5.5
is
roughly
what
it's
bringing
in
while
we're
in
colby
our.
B
Room
tax
increase
going
from
12
to
14
pre-code
projected
to
bring
in
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
with
with
our
hotel
room
charges
being
essentially
25
to
30
percent
of
what
they
were.
That's
a
lot
less
and
then
our
marijuana
attacks
that
you,
you
guys
all
know
about
providing
the
city
with
the
option
to
tax
marijuana.
Should
it
be
replaced
adoption
of
development
impact,
these
a
a
very
important
project
that
we
embarked
on
and
completed
in
2019
to
have
market-based
development
impact
fees
under
a
number
of
buckets.
B
I
won't
go
into
this,
but
I
know
council
knows
how
important
having
those
development
impact
fees
are
and
as
projects
develop,
we
have
a
number
of
projects
that
are
actually
getting
ready
to
pay
those
fees,
and
so
that
will
provide
needed
money
to
improve
our
infrastructure.
Actually
critical.
Our
walmart.com
sales
tax
sharing
agreement
projected
to
bring
in
3.65
million
a
year.
We've
negotiated
development-related
community
benefit
agreements.
B
The
mills
park
d.a
had
a
guaranteed
10
million
dollar
community
benefit.
That
project
has
not
begun
construction,
yet
they
are
developing
their
construction
diagrams,
but
the
community
benefit
agreement
that
we've
negotiated
had
a
10
million
payment
expenditure
controls,
budgetary
and
personnel
cost
containment.
B
B
Million
dollars
of
mid-year
budget
shortfalls
in
1920
and
then
a
8.2
million
dollar
shortfall,
part
of
that
we
use
measure
g
to
cover
2
million,
but
we
provided
retirement
incentives
to
decrease
our
workforce.
We've
froze
a
number
of
vacant
positions
over
20
positions
and
we
defunded
a
number
of
capital
projects.
Unfortunately,
we
also
have
a
category
which
is
cost
shifts
or
threats
to
the
general
fund.
There
were
a
number
of
items
that
were
threatening
the
health
of
our
general
fund
and
we
needed
to
shift
that
cost
elsewhere.
B
B
We
transitioned
our
after
school
program
to
the
ymca
that
was
important
from
a
financial
perspective
in
our
community
services
department
and
from
an
operational,
and
we
applied
we're
applying
for
grants
and
we
recently
received
a
grant
to
cover
a
portion
of
the
spyglass
stormwater
improvements.
So
we've
done
a
lot
and
the
city
council
should
be
really
proud
of.
This
project
and
all
of
the
direction
that
you
have
provided
as
far
as
some
of
the
highlights
of
the
ongoing
items,
the
first
one
up,
is
what
we're.
G
Thank
you,
jovan
and
good
evening,
mayor
and
members
of
the
council
pleasure
to
be
here
this
evening.
I'm
gonna
go
through
about
four
slides
that
highlight
what
is
before
you
in
attachment
number
one,
and
that
is
a
draft
cost
recovery
policy.
This
cost
recovery
policy.
As
you
know,
looking
through
this
very
long
document
and
a
list
of
more
than
500
fees,
it's
a
a
pretty
daunting
array
of
numbers
and
fees
for
services.
G
The
one
of
the
primary
purposes
of
the
draft
cost
recovery
policy
is
to
provide
a
framework
for
you
to
communicate
to
the
public
why
fees
have
different
cost
recovery
levels?
Not
all
cities
have
cost
recovery
policies,
but
we
think
it
is
best
practices
for
you
to
consider
one
once
established.
The
policy
would
typically
be
updated
every
five
years,
as
javon
mentioned,
that's
also
best
practices
for
user
fee
updates
or
the
city
council
has,
of
course,
the
authority
to
update
the
policy
when
it
believes
it's
necessary.
G
G
It
allows
for
the
expansion
and
enhancement
of
services
by
utilizing
user
fee
revenue
to
fund
those
specific
services
related
to
permit
issuances
throughout
your
city
government,
and
then
it
also
helps
establish
a
correct
price
for
a
given
program,
service
or
facility
and
we'll
you'll
hear
later
from
tony
some
examples
of
different
fee
calculations
and
how
that
pricing
is
established.
Okay,
next
slide.
G
G
The
service
recipient
versus
the
service
driver
as
an
example
a
developer
or
a
builder
that
is
coming
in
and
needs
a
building
permit.
They
are
driving
the
need
for
that
service
that
is
distinct
from
other,
more
general
activities,
again,
mostly
in
the
activities
that
most
of
your
residents
are
experiencing
in
the
recreation
and
community
services
arena
san
bruno
residents
versus
non-residents
is
a
consideration.
G
Residents
pay
your
general
taxes,
property
taxes,
sales,
taxes
and
non-residents.
Do
not
so
having
a
differentiation
between
non-resident
and
resident
fees
is
a
factor
when
considering
where
a
specific
fee
might
drop
in
your
cost
recovery
spectrum,
the
availability
of
the
service
in
the
current
marketplace.
G
Okay,
next
slide.
Okay,
so
the
levels
of
cost
recovery
that
are
in
the
draft
policy
are
three
and
they
also
are
included
in
the
attachment
to
the
willdown
report.
So
you're
able
to
look
when
you're
looking
at
a
specific
fee
which
category
the
fee
is
proposed
to
achieve,
which
level
of
recovery
full
cost
recovery
or
your
full
cost
would
be
80
to
100
percent
of
the
actual
cost
to
issue
the
permit
typically
or
an
example
of
that
is
a
building
permit.
G
G
G
G
H
H
So
we
started
off
with
the
cost
allocation
plan
which
was
finalized
in
february
of
2019.
So
what
the
cost
allocation
plan
is
it
it's
kind
of
it?
It
ensures
that
the
central
services
of
the
city
are
being
allocated
to
your
operating
departments
and
funds
in
an
equitable
manner,
based
off
of
how
support's
being
provided
all
that's
said.
H
It's
a
tool
right,
so
we
build
it
in
excel
and
it
goes
through
and
it
calculates
takes
your
central
service
cost
and
allocates
them
out
using
distribution
sets
such
as
full-time
equivalents,
purchase,
orders,
building
square
footage
things
like
that,
based
off
of
how
that
support
is
provided
so,
for
example,
human
resources.
The
number
of
positions
you
have
in
each
department
and
fund
dictate
how
much
of
an
allocation
you
should
get
for
that
central
function,
the
allocations
they
should
represent
house
services
provided,
but
it
is
not
a
direct
allocation.
H
So
it
by
its
very
nature,
is
it's
not
considered
a
charge
right,
so
it's
considered
an
allocation
of
support
as
opposed
to
something
that's
direct,
charged
or
determined
by
logging
hours
or
recording
time
now.
Cost
allocation
plans
are
typically
used
and
the
formation
of
personnel
rates,
like
we
do
here,
for
the
user
free
study,
as
well
as
for
budgeting
purposes,
and
also
for
cost
reimbursement
through
big
grants.
H
H
When
that's
not
possible
because
say
you
have
a
pooled
expenditures
for
a
program,
then
we
use
a
programming
level
of
cost
analysis
such
as
building
permits
right
where
you
are
looking
at
the
total
cost
of
providing
service,
and
then
you
have
a
methodology
for
allocating
that
cost
out
or
spreading
that
cost
out,
based
off
of
the
level
of
service
being
provided
within
the
model.
We
determine
the
and
calculate
the
full.
H
There
is
no
city.
I've
ever
worked
with,
that
is
at
a
hundred
percent,
cost
recovery
for
all
their
fees
or
services.
So,
but
it
is
a
city
policy
decision
on
where
to
set
your
fees,
so
figure,
there's
kind
of
two
studies,
two
studies
in
one
where
we
talk
about
these
are
what
your
costs
are
and
then
it's
a
policy
decision
of
where
to
set
your
fees
and
that's
kind
of
where
the
draft
cost
policy
comes
into
play.
H
So
in
developing
the
user
fee
study
itself,
we
use
a
lot
of
different
data,
sets
a
lot
of
different
types
of
expenditure
revenue,
your
staffing
structures.
We
incorporate
the
cost
allocation
plan
because
that
is
a
part
of
the
user
fee
study
and
I'll
explain
that
as
the
fully
burned
hourly
rates
and
how
that
plays
into
it
productive
or
billable
hours.
H
We
also
incorporate
activity
levels
revenue.
So,
if
we're
doing
a
programming,
analysis
of,
say,
you're,
building
permanent
revenue,
we're
looking
or
you're
building
permit
services
we're
looking
at
the
amount
of
revenue
that
you've
received
over
multiple
years
to
judge
what
your
cost
recovery
has
been
in
the
past,
so
that
we
can
kind
of
project
where
you
might
be
moving
forward.
What
you
might
need
to
get
to
full
cost
recovery
all
throughout
the
entire
process.
H
The
way
that
you
provide
services
in
the
way
that
your
cost
structures
are
and
make
sure
it
makes
sense
for
both
staff
and
also
for
your
residents
next
slide,
please
so
the
fully
burdened
out
of
their
rates,
the
way
those
are
calculated
is
we
start
off
with
a
personnel
cost
and
we
determine
what
the
salary
benefit
rate
is
for
all
the
positions
and
then,
on
top
of
that
we
layer,
departmental
operating
costs
so
think
of
pens
paper
electricity.
You
know
those
kind
of
support
cuts.
H
To
give
us
get
us
up
to
that
full
cost
accounting.
So,
in
conjunction
with
the
use
of
the
time
estimates
with
the
hourly
rates,
we
can
determine
what
your
full
cost
of
services
are.
So
fully
burnout
rates
are
used
in
the
time
analysis
right
with
that
staff
time,
but
they're
also
used
for
deposit-based
service.
So
if
you
have
a
deposit,
then
those
fully
bernoulli
rates
will
be
charged
against
it
to
recover
your
costs,
it's
also
used
and
develop
your
developer
reimbursement
agreements
as
well
as
most
other
purposes.
H
You
might
want
to
get
cost
recovery
through
so
be
kind
of,
depending
on
what
comes
through
your
door.
Even
if
you
don't
have
a
fee
for
it,
you
can
determine
what
the
cost
of
services
are
and
and
charge
right.
So
let's
go
to
the
next
slide,
but
actually
skip
the
next
one,
because
I
left
that
one
in
when
I
replaced
it
with
two
more
that
follow.
So
that
was
my
bad.
H
So
the
process
for
the
initial
study
started
from
february
2019
and
went
to
february
2020
right,
and
so
we
start
off
with
collecting
a
bunch
of
data.
We
developed
the
initial
model
and
then
we
have
the
department
interviews
where
we
actually
met
with
staff
right
in
person,
but
we
went
through
the
cost
structure.
The
the
fee
structure.
We
made
adjustments
and
add
new
fees,
get
rid
of
anything
that
no
longer
applies.
H
If
you
have
say,
erroneous
copy
fees
that
are
things
are
available
online
stuff
like
that
we
collect
the
time
estimates
and
that's
how
we
start
building
on
those
labor
costs
and
incorporating
the
cost
allocation
plan.
Through
those
discussions,
we
determine
what
the
direct
services
are
being
provided,
as
well
as
the
indirect
support
and
we
layer
on
that
department
and
the
city-wide
overhead
all
that
feeds
into
defining
what
your
full
cost
of
services
are,
and
only
after
we
have
the
full
cost
determined.
H
Do
we
start
talking
about
where
you
might
want
to
set
the
fee,
because
we
don't
want
to
put
the
card
before
the
horse
right.
So
we
determine
what
your
costs
are.
Then
we
can
talk
about
suggested
fees
and
that's
where
we
kind
of
sat
with
and
it
was.
It
was
actually
council
meeting
in
the
end
of
january
of
2020,
and
there
was
a
couple
modifications
made
to
our
initial
report,
but
that's
where
it
sat
it
kind
of
stalled
out
now
next
slide.
Please.
H
So
when
we
picked
it
back
up
in
december,
what
we
needed
to
do
was
to
update
the
the
model
and
the
report
based
off
of
a
number
of
factors.
One
there's
there
was
a
lot
of
kind
of
staff
change
right,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
new
staff
had
their
say
and
make
sure
that
they
understood
what
went
into
the
model
and
it
made
sense
to
them.
So
we
confirmed
the
time
to
process
all
the
other
fees
and
services
make
sure
that
that
made
sense.
H
They
had
changes
of
their
own
as
well
to
make
sure
that
new
fees
were
incorporated
correctly
and
adjustments
to
the
structure
made
sense
for
how
they
wanted
to
apply
the
fees
we
obtained.
New
personnel
cost
data
to
make
sure
that
the
fully
bernoulli
rates
were
kind
of
up
to
current
time
costs
as
well,
and
then
we,
after
we
had
those
full
costs
of
services.
We
went
back
into
that
cost
recovery
discussion
where
we
incorporated
the
draft
cost
recovery
policy.
H
So
we
have
all
the
documents
updated
here
for
the
for
this,
this
council
meeting
for
review
and
let's
go
to
the
next
slide,
where
this
is
an
example
of
how
we
do
the
calculation
itself,
so
we're
taking
a
simple
fee
which
one
we
have
one
person
directly
involved
in
providing
the
service
and
so
taking
the
community
development
tech.
We
have
a
salary
benefit
hourly
rate
and
then
we
apply
the
departmental
direct
overhead
and
then
departmental
administrative
overhead
than
the
indirect
overheads.
H
H
Most
all
of
your
services,
there's
some
to
go
down
right,
but
due
to
efficiencies.
But
if
you
think
of
like
development
applications
stuff
like
that,
the
code's
always
changing,
it's
always
changing.
So
it's
always
getting
say:
there's
more
hoops
to
kind
of
jump
through
to
kind
of
make
sure
that
you're
in
compliance,
and
so
even
though
you
get
efficiencies
in
some
area,
sometimes
it
tends
to
always
kind
of
creep
up
on
making
sure
that
you
have
other
compliance
areas
in
check,
and
so
there's
always
a
given
poll
with
those.
H
So
the
general
standard
is
that
if
an
individual
is
receiving
a
private
benefit,
then
generally
you
want
to
pass
on
100
of
that
full
cost
to
them
and
the
reason
being
is
it
if
you
don't
it
constrains
your
your
usual?
Usually
your
general
revenues
so
that
you
have
less
available
to
provide
for
more
community
benefit
type
activities.
H
So
you
know
special
events,
police
fire,
that
you
don't
have
as
much
to
kind
of
provide
for
those
sorts
of
things
because
you're
having
to
subsidize
the
private
benefit
services
that
you
have
sorry.
I
got
an
itch
in
my
throat,
so
we
recommend
that
you
establish
a
cost.
Recovery
policy
is
what
you
have
before
you,
so
that
you
kind
of
keep
up
with
your
cost
policies
and
keep
up
with
your
procedures
so
that
you
keep
up
with
your
with
your
user
fees.
H
We
also
recommend
that,
in
between
full
studies
that
you
do
have
an
inflator
that
you
apply
annually,
the
most
commonly
used
is
cpi,
but
there's
a
number
of
ones
that
you
could
explore
as
well.
But
cpi
is
the
most
known
it's
the
most
visible
and
it's
it's
most
public.
So
that's
why
it
is
used
the
most
next
slide.
Please
yeah.
B
H
B
Say
that
if
we
apply
a
cpi
model,
we'll
do
that
annually
and
if,
for
any
reason,
by
doing
that
cpi,
we
become
out
of
sync
with
what
our
true
cost
is.
That's
why
you
do
the
study
every
five
years,
so
you're
essentially
re-baselining
your
study,
your
your
cost
study
every
five
years
and
and
that's
the
best
practice.
B
B
20
are
deposit
or
actual
cost
based
and
then
another
38
varied
by
on
cost
recovery,
and
so
a
number
in
that
category
are
actually
in
our
community
services
department,
and
so
we
thought
we
would
pause
right
now.
We
just
went
through
a
lot
of
information
and
asked
council
if
there's
any
questions
on
what
we
have
gone
through
in
the
first
26
lives.
A
G
D
D
So
when
we
were
looking
at
the
fees,
we
really
didn't
want
to
change
the
fees
so
much,
but
what
we,
what
we
thought
was
important
was
to
propose
a
way
to
make
this
simplified.
So
when
you
look
at
the
two
descriptions
stacked
in
the
current
fee
rental
model,
we
have
five
different
rates
and
we're
proposing
that
we
move
to
three
the
lower
triangle,
and
so,
if
you
were
to
look
at
the
existing
current
facility
rental
model,
if
you
were.
G
D
D
D
What
was
really
important
is
as
we
were,
we
were
looking
at
benchmarking,
the
actual
rental
rates.
There
was
a
trend
and
a
norm
within
the
peninsula
area,
where
non-profits
typically
received
a
50
discount
on
facility
rentals
in
our
existing
fee
schedule.
There
are
a
couple
of
rooms
where
a
non-profit
could
have
as
high
as
89
discount
on
the
rental
rate,
so
we're
generally
covering
the
cost
to
even
have
the
staff
here
to
help
endorse
your
people
so
again
with
the
facility
rentals
on
the
most
significant
changes.
B
D
D
G
D
D
D
B
Why
don't
I
expand
upon
that
really
quickly?
Based
on
the
current
structure
of
our
fee
schedule,
every
fee
has
to
be
approved.
Every
every
program
fee
has
to
be
approved
by
the
city
council,
and
so
that
means
you're,
not
nimble.
You
can't
sort
of
quickly
create
a
program
and
say
here's
the
fee
based
on
our
cost
recovery
metric.
You
have
to
go
to
council
for
every
fee,
and
so
during
the
pandemic
we
were
able
to
be
nimble
and
develop.
B
The
authority
that
the
city
manager
has
because
we've
declared
a
local
emergency,
and
so
the
new
framework
has
a
basically
a
key
setting
model
built
into
it.
That
will
allow
the
department
to
be
very
nimble
and
flexible
on
an
ongoing
basis
as
long
as
they
hit
the
policy
thresholds
that
council
has
set,
and
so
it's
a
way
to
sort
of
permanentize
that
that
ability
to
to
be
nimble.
D
C
D
At
because
what
we're
not
saying
is
we're
going
to
start
turning
125
for
a
swim
lesson.
There
are
categories
of
programs,
so
in
particular
when
you're
looking
at
some
of
these
it
groups
in
program
types
so
swim
lessons
that
range
gives
us
the
ability
to
allow
both
private
lessons
or
group
lessons
in
different
numbers
within
the
groups,
because
those
all
impact
the
cost
for
service.
So
it
gives
us
a
lot
of
flexibility
to
be
able
to
create
programs
even
as
audience
and
demographic
shifts
occur
in
our
community.
D
D
Cost
the
cost
recovery
policy,
which
I
think
is
important
to
mention
that
having
these
ranges
would
would
not
allow
the
I
think
it
also
would
fall
within
any
of
the
increases
would
also
be
subject
to
cpr.
Yes,
it's
not
like
it
would
be.
Staff
would
have
the
ability
to
arbitrarily
keep
increasing
fees.
D
F
D
D
I
Thank
you
so,
with
going
back
to
when
we
talked
about
the
the
school
district
having
its
own
current
joint
use
agreement
and
doing
away
with
that,
so
would
they
would
the
school
district
pay
the
nonprofit
rates
that
we
saw
in
that
in
that
list,
and
will
it
be
necessary
to
renegotiate
this
with
the
district?
Given
that
we
have
an
active
joint
use
agreement.
B
B
Fee
tied
to
it
under
this
proposed
fee
structure,
it
would
not
be
in
our
master
fee
schedule.
It
would
be
governed
by
that
joint
use
agreement.
So
we
don't
have
two
agreements
that
we
have
to
maintain
and
one
day
and
and
with
the
ability
for
them
to
be
out
of
sync.
If
we
ever
have
fee
for
the
district,
it's
covered
by
that
that
agreement.
I
Okay
and
then
I'd
have
one
other
comment.
I
like
the
the
the
idea
of
establishing
a
policy
and
ranges
to
allow
the
the
department
flexibility
to
spin
up
a
new
program
and
not
have
to
wait
for
us
to
wait
for
it
to
get
agendized
and
go
through
us
to
to
approve
the
fee
for
it.
I
would
recommend
it.
I'm
sure
this
is
likely.
I
Gonna
would
happen
any
way
that
that
the
council
just
be
kept
informed
of
any
new
programs
that
get
spun
up
and
we
can
just
through
through
the
regular
updates
that
that
the
departments
give
at
their
regular
meetings.
Just
so,
we
know,
what's
what's
what's
happening
with
these
new
things
that
gets
done.
C
D
C
But
I
mean
also
to
I
saw
the
swim
rates
and
you
know
so
that's
one
of
the
examples,
but
compared
to
like
the
burlingame
swim
rates
or
orange
pool
swim
rates.
Are
they
are
they
the
quality
of
our
pool
the
same
as
the
quality
of
the
you
know,
burlingame
pool
and
the
orange
park
pool
if
the
rates
are
going
to
be
similar.
D
So
swim
swim
lesson
rates.
Typically,
it's
really
wise
to
keep
them
keep
them
very
competitive
with
each
other,
and
part
of
that
is
swim.
Programs
are
one
of
those
things
where
we
look
at
it
as
a
safety
benefit
to
the
community,
and
so
we're
not
trying
to
undercut
other
communities
but
keep
that
within
a
certain
range.
Of
course,
those
any
of
the
fees
that
are
related
to
the
raft
will
take
back,
but
there's
that
certain
range,
where
there
aren't
many
swim
lessons
independent
school
lessons
that
are
over
about
69
right.
That.
C
Okay,
so
so
they
are,
I
mean,
I
guess
that's
what
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
that
they're
comparable
we've.
I
know
we've
been
to
many
different
swim
locations.
I
mean
this
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
you
can
teach
your
kids,
how
to
swim,
so
the
rates
and
other
locations
might
be
every
two
weeks
they
might
be
monthly
and
so,
and
I
will
say
that
the
water
temperature
is
very
different
in
some
places
as
well,
which
is
a
cost
to
the
location.
C
J
J
J
B
So
let
me
take
that
and
I'll
actually
ask
craig
woodham
to
to
provide
additional
comments,
so
a
master
feed
process
in
a
the
study,
like
the
one
you
have
from
wildan,
is
a
technical
study.
That's
based
off
your
costs
with
the
methodology
that
was
outlined,
and
so
there
is
not
a
public
engagement
part
of
that
process.
B
In
addition,
in
my
experience,
it's
atypical
for
a
master
fee
study
review
to
go
out
for
public
comment.
It's
it's
not
like
the
re.
They
require
218
processes.
These
are
fees
that
the
governing
body
decides
at
their
public
meetings
and
so
craig.
Whatever
I
saw
you
popped
on
your
camera,
so
please
offer
any
additional
insight
for
council.
J
Now,
thank
you
for
that.
I,
I
guess
I'm
I'm
interested
interested
in
the
timeline
and
schedule
also
being
aware
that
we
will
not
have
a
pool
at
any
time
soon,
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
be
approving
something
at
some
point
and
we
don't
have
a
pool
yet
and
a
lot
of
our
programs
right
now
are
are
suspended
and
hopefully
soon
they'll
be
returned.
J
So
that
was
kind
of
where
I
was
going
with
that,
and
I
know
I'm
involved
with
a
number
of
different
groups
and
and
how
we
can
get
more
information
out
to
them
other
than
just
announcing
that
we're
going
to
have
this
city
council
meeting
and
we're
going
to
raise
the
fees.
I
understand
the
study
session.
I
think
it's
totally
appropriate.
B
And
so
we
we
do
think
that
the
the
framework
is
appropriate.
Just
to
note
on
where
we
are
with
aquatic
programs.
We
are
thinking
about
potentially
only
having
swim
lessons,
but
but
not
other
aquatic
programs
and
we're
looking
at
that,
because
we
know
that
there's
a
significant
benefit
to
continue
to
provide
swim
lessons
for
kids
that
need
them.
While
we
are
building
a
new
facility.
So
we're
looking
at
that
option,
but
we're
not
ready
to
announce
where
we
are.
B
And
so
that
is
still
envisioned
both
for
this
process
and
the
annual
setting
process
for
cpi
increases
so
on
an
annual
global
over
basis.
We
will
continue
to
take
the
parking
rate
fees
to
the
parking
red
board
before
they
come
to
the
city
council
for
that
discretionary
decision
on.
If
you
apply
the
cpi
calculation
that
is
embedded
within
your
your
fee
scheduling
your
policy.
A
D
A
B
G
Okay,
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
was
again
trying
to
provide
transparency
and
examples
of
the
fees
that
are
common
among
your
departments
is
to
list
a
number
of
fees
in
each
department
current
fee
and
what
is
proposed.
So
that's
what
this
chart
does.
It
takes
a
permit
in
most
of
the
departments,
public
works,
encroachment,
permit
business,
license,
application,
use,
permit,
sign,
permit
and
fire
peddler
in
which
the
police
plays
a
role
and
water
heater
and
not
surprising.
B
The
city
council
does
have
the
discretion
to
make
that
a
longer
rampant
for
some
feeds,
and
you
do
not
have
to
decide
on
the
same
policy
for
each.
So,
for
example,
you
could
say
you
know
what
we
are
going
to
allow
the
youth
permit
for
a
single
family
residential
property
to
increase
from
the
1600
to
the
6200
over
two
years,
because
that
is
a
private
benefit
item
and
other
policy
considerations.
But
say
you
know
what
for
the
business
license
application
fee?
B
B
E
Yeah,
honorable
mayor
and
city
members,
city
council,
I
apologize
for
my
disappearance,
but
here
I
am
so
I
have
the
honor
of
introducing
and
also
explaining
to
you
some
of
the
common
fees,
as
craig
explained
to
you
that
we
have
pulled
out
that
we'll
be
seeing
a
significant
increase.
So
the
first
one
that
we're
bringing
to
you
is
the
single-family
user
fee.
These
are
the
neighbors
or
the
members
of
public
when
they
want
to
make
an
addition
to
their
house.
We
don't
want
to
remodel.
E
You
know,
turn
a
you
know:
500
square
feet,
bedroom
into
a
700
square,
feet
bedroom.
So,
for
instance,
the
chart
on
the
slide
shows
how
many
touches
we
call
it
when
a
project
like
this
goes
through
our
department.
So,
for
instance,
the
chart
shows
that
when
the
project
like
this
comes
through,
the
building
official
approximately
spends
two
hours
on
his
time
to
review
the
project.
E
Please
next
slide
please
so
the
next
one
is
another
very
common
type
of
application,
which
is
the
sign
permit
right
now
we
charge
about
205
dollars,
so
this
qualifies
for
any
time
a
merchant
or
business
wants
to
either
switch
ownership.
You
know
when
t-mobile
comes
in
town.
They
want
to
take
over
a
sprint
business
center.
They
will
come
to
the
city
and
get
a
sign
permit
again.
E
So
we're
looking
at
about
roughly
781
dollars
for
a
fully
burden
rate
next
slide,
please,
the
next
one
is
pretty
straightforward
for
anyone
who
wants
to
upgrade
or
replace
their
water
heater.
How
much
does
that
cost
the
water
heater
fee
really
comes
together
with
the
plumbing
permit
fee,
so
the
plumbing
permit
fee
is
for
the
intake
it's
for
the
processing,
but
the
water
heater
itself
is
the
inspection
time
where
a
building
inspector
has
to
go
out
to
the
property
to
make
sure
it's
properly
strapped
it's
properly
installed.
E
All
the
connection
is
properly
matched,
so
that
equates
to
about
one
hour
of
a
building
inspector
time,
which
is
about
156
dollars.
Again,
that's
a
three
times
increase
from
the
current
fee
and
just
because
the
fully
burdened
ray
of
the
building
inspector,
that
rate
has
increased
next
slide.
Please
and
the
very
last
fee
that
we
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
again.
It's
one
of
the
very
common
fee
business
license
right
now:
the
city
charges
on
the
average
26
to
36
dollars
for
a
new
business
to
receive
their
business
license.
E
However,
if
we
really
look
into
how
much
time
city
staff
needs
to
spend
it's
about
quarter
of
an
hour
for
the
finance
staff
to
take
in
process
to
check,
have
them
go
through
the
application
and
actually
the
other
finance
staff
to
input
it
into
a
system
and
for
the
technician
at
community
economic
development
to
enter
into
traffic.
Send
it
to
a
planner
for
review
and
that's
what
we
call
a
business
license
when
you
said
and
done
put
it
all
together.
G
G
It's
important
to
note
that
fees
are
it's
very
difficult
to
compare
fees
among
cities,
because
because
there
are
a
number
of
factors
that
are
that
differ
from
city
to
city,
the
frequency
of
the
fee
study
a
great
example
here,
where
the
city
of
san
bruno
hasn't
had
a
full
fee
study
for
many
years.
A
personal
personnel
costs,
as
pamela
just
described,
are
an
integral
part
in
setting
fees.
They
vary
from
city
to
city,
different
approaches
to
processing
fees.
G
Pamela
brought
up
an
example
during
this
process
of
san
bruno
will
require
a
couple
of
public
hearings
or
an
architectural
review
where
some
cities
may
not,
or
some
cities
may
have
even
an
enhanced
architectural
review
and
then
bottom
line.
Also
is
that
cities
have
very
different
cost
recovery
policies.
Some
cities
choose
to
subsidize
at
higher
levels
than
others.
G
So
with
all
of
those
caveats,
we
can
move
to
the
next
slide
and
this
provides
again
those
same
fees
where
we
tried
to
pick
out
some
high
volume
fees
to
compare
to
the
neighboring
cities
and
this
these
fees
were
pulled
off
of
publicly
available
websites
for
these
cities
and
they.
I
know
that
tony
mentioned,
that
a
couple
of
them
are
in
different
states
of
review
of
their
current
fee
schedules.
But
we
wanted
to
give
you
an
example
of
these
fees
and
how
they
compare
to
adjacent
communities.
H
Hey
greg,
can
I
say
one
thing
on
that:
just
to
put
that
in
context
a
little
bit,
especially
about
the
frequency
between
fee
studies,
south
san
francisco,
they
went
out
to
rfp
in
late
2019
and
they,
as
far
as
I
know,
are
still
undergoing
a
fee
study,
currently
full
cost
study.
So
their
fees
are
also
having
just
been
adjusted
annually.
H
They
have
not
actually
undergone
a
full
fee
study
in
quite
a
while,
and
then
I
also
know
millbrae.
They
are
in.
They
work
as
far
as
I
know,
they're,
currently
still
in
the
process
of
undergoing
a
fee
study,
and
I
was
able
to
find
a
public
document
where
it
looked
like.
It
was
taken
to
a
commission
where,
for
example,
if
we
look
at
the
comparison
of
the
use
permit
their
range
for
their
actual
cost
for
millbrae
and
the
preliminary
study
they
had
was
between
fifty
six
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
dollars,
depending
on
the
application.
H
They
have
minor
major,
as
opposed
to
you
know
single
family
residential,
but
and
then
for
their
sign
permits.
They
range
from
thirty
four
hundred
to
fifty
seven
hundred
in
cost,
so
they
haven't
adopted
a
fee
change,
but
they
are
undergoing
cost
day
as
well.
Now,
if
they
don't
actually
adopt
any
updated
fees,
then
you
end
up
comparing
exactly
what
they
have
so
for
the
most
part
when
you're
comparing
just
know
the
actual
you
know,
benefit
of
the
comparison
is
really.
H
B
G
We
will
review
a
final
time
to
ensure
that
all
the
proposed
fees
ensure
compliance
with
state
laws.
In
certain
cases,
police
fees
are
restricted
by
state
law,
as
well
as
a
relatively
small
number
of
fees
that
the
city
does
not
have
discretion
in
terms
of
how
much
it
can
charge
and
then
finally,
any
municipal
code.
Amendments
that
are
necessary
would
also
be
part
of
the
council
action
when
it
takes
action
on
these
fees
to
ensure
consistency
there
as.
G
B
B
These
fees
are
implemented
by
a
simple
resolution
of
the
council,
so
it
does
not
require
two
meetings,
and
so,
if
we
are
here
to
answer
any
questions,
there
are
appendices
or
attachments.
There
is
attachment,
one
that
provides
the
draft
cost
recovery
framework
that
talks
about
the
various
cost
recovery
levels,
full
cost
recovery,
medium
cost
recovery
for
low
cost
recovery.
B
Then
there's
the
fee
study
and
then
there's
really
the
meat
of
the
recommendations
that
is
attachment.
Three,
that
is
a
excel
matrix
that
provides
the
list
of
all
of
the
500
and
some
odd
fees
in
a
few
different
categories,
but
it
provides
the
the
detail
on
the
current
amount.
The
current
cost
recovery
amount,
what
the
full
cost
is
and
what
the
recommendation
is
and
and
what
cost
recovery
category
each
individual
seed
is
in.
B
B
A
F
It
makes
sense,
but
where
the
prices
start
getting
so
high,
where
people
might
just
stop
getting
permits,
because
if
I
can
go,
buy
a
water
heater
for
you
know,
400
bucks
and
it's
going
to
cost
me
150
to
get
it
inspected.
Am
I
really
going
to
get
it
inspected?
You
know
if
we
start
driving
behavior
when
when
you
know
the
prices
you
know
become
out
of
hand
like
that,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if-
and
I
know
it
would
be-
a
different
sort
of
study.
F
You
know
in
a
more
efficient
manner,
and-
and
maybe
that
can
come
at
a
later
date,
once
we
we've
established
some
some
stable
financial
footing.
But
you
know
that's
a
concern,
I'm
wondering
if
you
know
if,
if
we're
only
pricing
pricing
things
based
on
the
way
we
do
them
and
not
evaluating
whether
we're
doing.
D
F
B
One
way
is
for
that
particular
fee:
a
water
heater
permit
inspection,
the
cycle
time
work
of
roughly
an
hour
of
an
inspector
to
go
out.
There's
you
know
probably
about
right,
and
that
does
require
a
physical
inspection.
The
way
we
do
them
now
we
can
decide
to
move
that
from
the
full
cost
recovery
category
and
to
either
the
medium
and
the
low
cost
recovery
category
for
that
particular
fee,
because
it
is
something
that
you
know
some
of
the
policy
considerations.
Well,
that's
an
emergency
thing,
typically
or
oftentimes.
B
People
are
replacing
their
water
heaters
because
it
has
failed
or
it's
about
to
fail,
and
we
want
them
to
at
that
moment,
come
in
and
and
and
go
through
the
process,
because
there's
a
safety
aspect
there
and
maybe
full
cost
recovery-
is
not
the
policy
we
want.
Maybe
we
want
to
strive
for
a
medium
or
a
low-cost
recovery.
That's
totally
the
policy
conversation
that
we
can
have
and
adjust
that
bucket.
Because
again,
a
lot
of
this
is
based
off
of
the
what
we
can
legally
charge.
B
It
sort
of
requires
this
meeting
to
have
that
detailed
understanding
that
we
can
have
the
policy
setting
conversation
to
move
from
one
category
to
the
other
category
and
so
fully
recognize
that
we
may
need
to
answer.
Questions
tonight
hit
a
pause.
So
council
can
go
back
and
potentially
look
at
those
those
the
detail
in
those
categories
and
and
proffer,
recommendations
to
move
fees
in
between
those
categories,
and
I'm
saying
that
and
do
that
before
we
get
to
the
april
13th.
J
J
J
I
switched
the
the
presentation
around,
but
it
was
a
hard
time
getting
people
to
do
it
six
years
ago
and
and
again
it's
a
safety
thing
where,
if
somebody
puts
it
in
illegally
rips
out
rips
it
out
they're
not
going
to
get
a
usa
tag,
they're
gonna
they're,
not
gonna,
put
it
in
right,
it's
not
gonna,
look
good.
Normally,
it
doesn't
so
I'd
like
to
see
some
safety
considerations
there
as
well
in
that
price
and
such
a
big
increase
in
our
use
permits
for
for
housing
additions
and
and
major
remodels.
J
I
mean
I
like
that.
It's
two
years
I
don't
know
how.
How
far
can
we
go
in
and
letting
those
costs
go
up?
I
mean
they're,
substantial
and,
and
the
last
one
is
with
the
business
license
and
and
probably
not
too
many
businesses
are
not
are
going
to
go.
Well,
I'm
not
going
to
pay
that
I
mean
that's
what
they
need
to
have,
but
it's
it's
definitely.
J
J
I
I
Hearing
about
you
know
that
both
south
city
and
millbrae
are
in
the
process
of
updating
their
fees,
and
I
understand
why
you
can't
put
in
what
they
what
they're
proposing,
because
it's
not
because
it's
not
finalized,
but
it
would
be
helpful
to
know
you
know
the
the
comment
was
that
south
city
hasn't
done
theirs
in
a
while,
and
we
didn't
know
where
in
quite
a
while
and-
and
we
don't
know
how
long
ago
it
was
that
millbrae
did
theirs.
If
it's
possible
to
get
that
information.
I
That
would
be
helpful
because,
if
they're
in
the
same
boat,
as
as
we
are
where
they
they've
been
ignoring
this
for
15
years,
then
it
would
make
a
little
bit
more
sense.
We're
looking
the
data
would
make
a
little
more
sense
that
we're
looking
at
here,
because
right
now
it
doesn't
make
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
sense
unless
they're
just
severely
or
very
much
subsidizing
their
fees.
H
Hands
up
so
I
can
definitely
answer
that
one
I
went
back
to
look
at.
They
annually
adopt
their
fees
and
it
is
always
just
a
minor
adjustment
so
going
back
longer
than
you
have
so
I
don't
think
they've
had
a
comprehensive
look
at
their
fees
in
quite
a
while.
I
I
find
no
record
of
one
through
available
council
documents
online,
so.
H
I
All
right
and
then
looking
at
the
the
example
of
the
sign
permit
and
I'm
just
using
it
as
an
example,
because
it's
it's
the
only,
but
I
would
imagine
this
might
be
true
for
some
of
the
other
fees
in
the
schedule.
The
other,
the
other
cities
have
ranges.
Well,
we
have
a
fix,
and
I'm
wondering
you
know
just
again
I'm
picking
on
the
sign
example.
I
You
know
that
sign
that's
going
to
require
new
electrical
and
a
bunch
of
other
things.
I
would
imagine
that
the
amount
of
staff
time
for
those
two
items
would
be
quite
different
and
is
it
pop
in
you
know,
should
we
consider
ranges
for
summits
first,
not
not
for
every
fee,
in
the
schedule
of
course,
but
for
some
of
the
ones
where
it
makes
more
sense.
E
I
can
take
that
question.
Councilmember
hamilton,
we
do
have
a
range,
but
it's
just
the
majority
of
what
we
do
falls
under
the
very
generic
name
of
sign
permit,
so
for
other
jurisdiction
they
may
have
a
sign
replacement,
permit
a
sign
upgrade
from
it
for
us
anything
that
falls
into
that
category
they
come
in
for
a
sign
permit.
We
also
have
something
called
a
master
sign
program.
A
signed,
deviation,
assigned
variance
which
is
not
you
know,
a
sign
permit,
but
most
of
our
work
falls
under
the
sign.
Permit
category.
I
Okay,
so
we
do
have
a
range,
it's
just
it's
just
a
categorization,
that's
correct,
okay,
good
good!
Thank
you
and
then
my
last
my
last
comment.
I
want
to
echo
what
what
councilman,
what
vice
mayor
medina
was
saying
earlier
about
just
the
difficulty
in
getting
through
all
this
data.
Would
it
be
possible
to
share
the
the
the
excel
file
from
attachment
3
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
kind
of
parse
it
and
engage
with
it
a
little
bit
better
than
trying
to
scroll
through
a
pdf.
B
C
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
do
just
first
before
I
I'm
gonna
ask
a
couple
questions,
but
I
just
do
wanna
thank
director,
wu
and
matolan.
These
are
kind
of
your
first
meetings
and
you're
coming
at
us
with
some
pretty
big
increases.
So
I
just
wanna
thank
you
for
your
professionality
coming
to
us
and
you
know
presenting
these
items.
Thank
you.
B
A
A
Unfortunately,
I'm
ill
prepared
in
that
regard,
but
a
peddler
is
defined
in
the
munico,
and
these
refer
to
people
who
are
traveling
door
to
door
or
from
place
to
place
within
the
city
peddling
goods,
whether
they're
selling
goods,
actually
that
they're
carrying
with
them
like
even
someone
going
door-to-door
selling
vacuums
or
someone
who
is
soliciting
donations
for
a
particular
cause.
So
peddler
permits
are
required
if
you
want
to
travel
door-to-door
throughout
the
city
or
business
to
business
and
attempt
to
to
sell
or
purvey
any
kind
of
goods
or
services.
C
C
So
I'll
go
back
to
the
city
of
tournament
city
attorneys
at
piranha,
so
you
know
the
the
people
that
we
are
that
we
see
that
we
buy
from
in
the
park
downtown.
I
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
much
how
many
ice
cream
pilot
dust
do.
They
have
to
sell
at
two
dollars
to
make
up
their
license
or
their
fee
so
where?
Where
would
they
fall
into
place?.
C
C
F
C
C
It's
a
significant
increase
in
the
amount
of
money
that
they'd
have
to
make
in
any
certain
month
or
year
to
be
able
to
pay
this.
In
my
opinion,
the
other
and
I'd
like
to
know
also,
I
mean
when
we
talk
about
the
impact.
We've
really
talked
a
lot
about
equity
this
year,
so
really
who
is,
who
is
being
impacted
by
this
peddler's
license,
and
is
it
truly
an
equitable
increase
when
the
city
may
not
really
benefit
a
whole
lot
from
it?
C
C
B
B
So
we
do
have
data,
so
we
do
have
data
on
who
is
behind
on
their
business
license
if
they've
had
one.
I
think
part
of
your
question
is:
do
we
know
if
every
business
in
the
city
has
a
business
license
and
that's
that's
sort
of
a
slightly
different
question
and
that
there's
a
there's
a
process
behind
that
there
are
even
firms
that
will
come
in
and
do
an
audit
based
on
nate
nate's
industry
codes
and
registrations
at
the
state,
and
things
like
that.
B
You
may
not
get
a
business
license,
but
when
you
go
to
turn
on
your
water
service,
there's
a
cross
reference
and
a
cross
check,
and-
and
so
there
are
ways
to
triangulate
what
I
would
say
that
some
some
of
the
hardest
businesses
attract
are
the
home-based
businesses
that
you
may
not
get
a
business
license,
but
but
there's
a
separate
process
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
talked
about
and
we'll
be
looking
into
within
the
finance
department.
There's
changes
to
our
business
license
process.
B
C
And
then
for
the
other
issue
with
the
business
license,
and
we
don't
have
to
go
in
into
detail,
but
I
just
want
to
throw
this
out
there.
I
know
I've
spoken
with
city
attorneys
efrano
about
this,
but
we're
looking
at
an
increase
of
the
business
license
to
235
and
right
now
for
something
as
simple
as
our
you,
our
utility
boxes,
which
are
wonderful
art
pieces.
C
I
think
to
our
city
we're
paying
artists
750
and
we
require
them
to
get
a
business
license,
so
they
would
actually
be
taking
235
off
of
that
750
dollars.
So
the
you
know,
so
I
think
we
just
really
need
to
think
about
the
impacts,
and
hopefully
we
we
actually
remove
that
and
that's
part
of
the
conversation
that
that
I've
been
having
with
city
attorney
zepharano.
C
E
Calculation,
I
probably
will
look
into
the
welding
folks
to
do
a
better
explanation,
but
the
fees
to
pay
for
the
consultants
are
covered
based
on
their
proposed
rate,
so
whatever
the
consultants
they're,
basing
their
hourly
rate.
So
if
the
scope
takes
100
hours,
the
fee
will
recharge
us
to
pay
for
that
scope.
E
C
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
my
other
question
is
around
the
the
whole
single
family
homes
in
particular,
because
it
looked
like
that
was
like
a
five
five
times,
the
an
increase
in
what
the
current
costs
are,
and
it
honestly
just
kind
of
makes
me
wonder.
I
understand
that
we're
trying
to
align
ourselves
with
other
cities,
but
that
is
a
pretty
steep
increase
in
it
and,
as
we
just
went
through
our
zoning,
our
zoning
code
update
it
kind
of
gives
us
perception.
C
Do
we
want
people
to
do
things
legally
here
in
san
bruno
and
make
sure
that
everything
is
safe?
And
you
know
I
worry,
because
the
council,
I
think,
has
has
expressed
concern
over
you-
know
both
code
enforcement
and
building
inspection
and
receiving
metrics
around
what
the
follow-up
is,
and
you
know
here
we
are
substantially
increasing
these
fees
potentially
and
for
people
who
are
trying
to
do
things
legally
or
maybe
complaining
about
people
who
are
not
there's.
C
There
is
a
perception
that
the
follow-up
is
still
quite
slow
and
we
don't
have
the
metrics
to
see
okay.
If
there
is
a
problem
in
the
building
process,
who's
going
to
come
in
to
you
know,
address
it,
and
while
I
get
that
some
of
these
fees
may
be
going
to,
you
know,
get
more
staff
and
which
I
think
is
is
a
huge
need
in
pretty
much
every
department,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out.
If
that's,
if
that's
appropriate,
it's
a
huge
increase
to
people
and
we
really
are
trying
to
say
look
here.
C
H
User
fees
are
typically
not
cost
prohibitive
to
developers
at
all
they're
when
you're
increasing
fees
to
them,
their
usual
response
is.
Am
I
going
to
get
service
quicker
right?
If
there's
been
no
case,
where
say
an
expedited
fee
at
double
the
rate
of
what
the
current
fee
is
put
in
place,
that
they
don't
use
so
they're
more
than
willing
to
pay
extra
in
order
to
have
quicker
service?
That
is
always
their
primary
goal.
So
the
impact
fees
generally
are
more.
H
They
look
closer
at
those,
but
even
then
that's
part
of
kind
of
the
building
process
and
making
sure
they
have
a
community
that
kind
of
supports
what
they're
trying
to
put
into
place.
So
these
are
kind
of
along
the
same
lines
of
as
long
as
they're
sure
they.
They
feel
assured
that
they
have
they're
getting
the
service
that
they
want.
Then
the
fees
are
typically
aren't
that
big
of
a
concern.
H
Now
there
are
cases
you
know
further
down
south,
actually
I'm
in
temecula
right,
but
so
there's
certain
places
in
the
desert,
where
they're
trying
to
spark
development,
where
that's
not
always
the
case,
because
there's
a
lot
more
mobility
but
kind
of
up
where
you
are
that
isn't
as
much
concern
at
all.
So
I
usually
don't
hear
much
from
the
development
folks
up
there
along
those
lines,
but
it
is
always
something
to
keep
in
mind,
but
in
this
case
your
fees
would
not
be
cost
prohibitive
compared
to
others
that
I
see.
H
C
E
I'll
take
that
question
I'll.
Take
that
question.
So
the
single
family
home,
see
conditional
use
room
is
only
gonna
apply
to
the
homeowners
homeowners
who
are
making
a
major
remodel
to
their
house.
Could
there
ever
be
a
developer?
Of
course,
there
could
be
a
one-time
small
developer,
who
wants
to
buy
a
fixer-upper
demolish
it
and
build
it
up,
so
they
could
be
selling
it.
E
Turning
over,
that
could
be
a
developer,
but
the
majority
of
the
people
using
that
vehicle
would
be
a
homeowner's
trying
to
make
an
addition
to
your
house,
and
I
kind
of
want
to
go
back
to
your
original
question.
Councilmember
mason
about
how
come
the
fee
is
going
five
times.
The
fee
is
only
calculated
based
on
our
current
process,
and
I
remember
when
we're
taking
the
zoning
code
update
to
you
last
tuesday,
we
explained
to
you
that
this
is
a
long
overdue
effort
and
and
keep
in
mind,
that's
not
the
entire
zoning
code.
C
C
I
know
earlier,
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
we
had
been
informed
that
there
had
been
an
increase
in
construction
projects
at
home,
because
people
may
not
be
working
or
they're
working
remotely.
So
I
don't
I'm.
You
know
just
very
hesitant
around
the
timing
of
this,
and
some
of
these
just
seem
really
quite
quite
high
as
far
as
the
increases
go,
so
I
think
that's
it
for
me.
Thank
you.
I
You
know
as
close
as
possible
on
the
peninsula
that
maybe
completed
a
comprehensive
feast
study
in
2020
and
then
use
the
you
know
then
do
some
comparisons
there,
because
you
know,
for
example,
if
san
mateo
completed
theirs
last
year,
understanding
that
they
may
have
a
different,
a
different
policy
for
for
free
recovery
or
whatever.
You
know,
with
all
the
other
caveats
that
we
heard.
I
C
A
Real
quick,
so
nobody
likes
having
to
tackle
this
and
it's
not
fun
and
not
easy.
A
lot
of
these
costs
are
to
bring
up
to
par
us,
getting
back
the
monies
from
developments
and
that
we're
having
burden
burden,
meaning
all
the
cost
of
the
employee,
not
just
the
hourly
wage,
because
the
taxpayers
pay
for
the
whole
burden,
which
means
medical,
dental
retirement
et
cetera.
So
this
is
this
is
one
of
those
things
and
it's
not
about
actually
acquiring
more
staff.
A
B
And
we
walked
in
here
tonight
and
we
knew
that
this
was
a
a
very
detailed
presentation
and
some
of
the
recommendations
for
full
cost
recovery.
We
knew
that
there
would
be
robust
conversation
around
and
additional
process
behind
deciding
exactly.
Where
does
the
city
council
want
to
fall
on
in
your
policy
framework?
So
let
me
just
say
that
that's
normal,
that's
appropriate.
That's
just
expected!
So
thank
you.
H
B
E
B
B
Looking
for
a
neighboring
city
in
the
peninsula,
that
has
recently
adopted
a
fee
schedule
and
remarketed
their
fees,
and
we
can
certainly
do
that
specific
to
development
review.
I
know
council
knows
this,
but
I
think
it's
worth
repeating
one
of
our
challenges
because,
unfortunately
our
fees
are
so
much
lower
than
our
cost.
B
B
B
B
And
so,
if
we
can
come
to
a
recommended
policy
framework
in
time
to
re-baseline
some
of
our
fees
for
july
one,
I
wanna
keep
working
toward
that
because
I
think
we
all
know
it's
long
overdue.
Unfortunately,
you
know
it's
a
challenging
time
and
it's
going
to
require
a
detailed
policy
conversation
on
which
of
those
fees
we
want
to
re-baseline
and
which
of
them.
We
want
to
sort
of
make
a
policy
decision
on
to
say
you
know
what
not
right
now
or
a
long
rampant.
C
No
they're
the
mayor,
thank
you
yeah.
I
just
want
to
say
before
we
end
that
I
don't,
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
extreme
than
either
or
I
mean
we
have
funds
coming
in
that
we
all
are
aware
of.
We
have
heard
the
plan
department
that
they
need
a
management
analyst
we've
heard
community
services,
we
know
the
police
in
the
vacant
positions
for
some
time
now.
I
don't
think
the
council
is
opposed
to
any
of
that.
I
think
we
just
want
to
know
all
of
our
options,
but
I
do
want
to
be
clear.
C
C
But
I
think
when
this
comes
back,
one
of
the
one
of
the
issues
I
want
to
just
raise
that
would
be
great
to
be
answered
is
what
is
really
the
scope
of
those
impacted.
So
I
asked
tonight
how
many
peddlers,
how
many
business
licenses
are
we
talking
about?
You
know
these
these
areas,
how
many,
how
many
people
have
single
family
home
applications
in
right
now?
It
would
be
really
helpful
to
understand
the
impact
of
these
changes
and
then
what
are
alternate
options?
Is
it
just
two-year?
Is
there
a
five-year
phase-in
option?
C
Is
there
a
four-year
phase
in
option?
You
know
how
can
we
all
get
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
be,
and
then
the
other
side
of
that
is
if
these
increases
should
go
through
and
you
have
you're
inundated
with
applications
because
people
are
trying
to
get
everything
in
while
the
fees
are
low.
Do
we
have
the
staff
capacity
to
handle
that
as
well?
So
those
are
the
two
areas
that
I
would
love
to
hear
about
when
it
comes
back
to
the
council.
Thank
you
so
much
everybody
who
worked
on
this
tonight.