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San Bruno City Council Meeting July 13, 2021
6a. Storm Drainage and Flood Protection Fee Election Report
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B
C
B
D
So
let's
try
to
work
through
our
technical
issues
that
we
have
seemed
to
be
having
all
night
okay
objective,
to
receive
an
oral
report.
As
the
city
clerk
said
with
regard
to
the
fee
and
provide
direction
to
staff.
Our
agenda
tonight
really
has
four
items.
One
is
acknowledgement
and
thank
you
we'll
overview.
The
initiative.
We'll
talk
about
the
election
results
and
then
we'll
get
on
to
the
the
core
part
of
the
discussion,
which
is
options
and
next
steps
moving
forward.
D
It
was
a
required
mail-in
ballot
to
property
owners,
and
so
we
eventually
mailed
out
over
twelve
thousand
five
hundred
ballots
and
received
back
five
thousand
226
ballots.
Now
you
may
be
saying:
well,
that's
not
not
a
lot,
but
it's
actually
forty
two
percent
for
these
off-cycle
melon
ballot
elections
is
is
par,
and
so
it's
around
what
we
expected
40
and
we
we
also
confirmed
with
our
consultant
wildann
that
ran
the
election.
D
D
D
But
our
fiscal
sustainability
project
really
has
a
couple
key
components
underpinning
it:
it
is
expenditure
reductions,
growing
our
revenue,
pursuing
economic
development
and
prudent
budget
management,
and
I
won't
go
through
the
the
litany
of
accomplishments
that
we've
had
with
that,
because
we've
had
sort
of
long
presentations
of
that.
But
this
effort
was
critical
to
that
and
it
was
critical
to
that
because
our
stormwater
system
is
aging.
Many
of
our
pipes
are
over
100
years
old
and
just
in
the
last
24
months,
we've
spent
over
1.2
million
dollars
on
infrastructure.
D
D
That
eventually
eroded
part
of
the
hillside
near
san
bruno
avenue
across
from
the
leonardis
grocery
store
and
threatened
the
integrity
of
san
bernardino
avenue.
So
we
had
to
declare
an
emergency
and
respond
quickly
to
that,
and
so
we
know
the
importance
of
maintaining
our
infrastructure
and
the
city.
D
Undertook
an
effort
back
in
in
2017
to
do
a
stormwater
master
plan
that
identified
more
than
30
million
dollars
of
improvements
that
we
have
yet
to
be
able
to
embark
on
those
improvements,
and
we
know
every
year
that
passes
when
we
don't
make
those
improvements.
The
infrastructure
gets
worse
and
the
cost
to
eventually
make
those
improvements
is
greater,
and
so
we
we
launched
this
effort
back
in
september
2020.
D
slide
is
sadly
all
too
familiar
to
the
city
council,
because
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussions
about
this
slide
during
our
budget
conversations
and
it's
the
precipitative
precipitous
decline
of
our
stormwater
enterprise
fund.
Now
that
well
essentially
for
funding
we
we
we're.
We
continue
to
be
at
the
status
quo,
which
is
the
revenue
does
not
cover
operating.
D
Nor
does
it
cover
the
the
30
million
dollars
of
needed
capital
improvements,
and
so
the
general
fund
has
to
become
the
backstop,
and
we
know
that
that
will
come
at
the
cost
of
services
and
programs,
and
so
the
city
council.
What
did
identify
funding
for
the
one
million
dollar
deficit
in
the
current
budget
year,
using
one-time
revenue
from
the
federal
government
in
our
arpa
funds?
D
So
what
remains
unfunded
are
our
collection
boxes
of
various
improvements
throughout
the
city.
We
have
a
regional
storm
water
capture
project
that
is
near
the
the
caltrans
right
away
at
I-280
and
I-380
and
trash
capture
devices
throughout
the
city
to
stop
trash
from
entering
into
our
stormwater
system
and
then
eventually
being
deposited
into
the
bay,
and
so
the
election
results
are
are
shown.
D
The
election
concluded
at
5
00
pm
on
june
15th,
the
ballots,
a
public
county.
Another
ballots
began
in
this
room,
the
very
next
day
on
june
16th,
and
that
was
available
online
for
remote
viewing
and
in-person
attendance.
We
did
have
members
of
the
public
come
and
watch
the
ballot
counting
as
well
as
we
live
stream.
The
ballot
counting
on
zone
all
day,
and
so
the
results
are,
as
shown
one
one
thousand
eight
hundred
and
thirty.
Three
yes
votes.
D
Three
thousand
three
hundred
and
ten
no
votes,
83
ballots
were
rejected,
and
so
I
won't
go
through
all
the
data,
but
we
did
want
to
provide
for
the
public
and
the
council
again
the
reasons
for
why
some
ballots
were
rejected.
Some
were
missing
a
signature,
others,
the
yes
or
no
was
not
marked
clearly,
and
we
had
a
few
duplicates
ballots
and
approximately
220
were
returned
to
send
her
back
to
the
city
from
from
the
post
office.
And
so
what
are
our
next
steps?
D
D
First
off
is
to
initiate
an
analysis
of
the
election
results,
and
this
would
entail
working
with
wildan,
who
accounted
the
ballots
for
us
and
engaged
with
them
to
conduct
a
demographic
analysis
of
the
ballot
responses.
We
really
want
to
seek
information
on.
Are
there
patterns
of
how
property
properties
voted
by
type?
D
We
would
need
to
work
with
the
city
council
to
have
approval
for
funding,
and
this
effort
is
currently
not
funded
and
we
would
align
any
future
polar
survey
to
one
of
the
future
efforts,
as
discussed
in
in
the
other
four
options
and
so
option
two
is
to
return
to
the
voters
with
a
further
or
additional
articulation
of
the
need.
I
think
the
well.
D
We
can
engage
on
a
second
prop
218
process,
with
the
results
of
the
election
coming
out,
as
there
were
nearly
two
to
one,
not
in
favor,
not
sure
that
additional
articulation
would
be
helpful.
Certainly,
we
can
seek
to
do
a
a
more
robust
job
at
articulating
the
need.
It
is
also
important
to
note
that
the
city
is
barred
from
campaigning
or
asking
members
of
the
public
to
vote.
D
D
This
effort
would
be
focused
primarily
on
funding
the
master
plan
projects,
that
is,
that
30
plus
million
dollars
worth
of
projects
that
was
identified
in
the
city's
2017
master
plan,
and
essentially
what
this
would
do
is
that
it
would
bifurcate
the
problem
and
attempt
to
solve
a
portion
of
it.
The
storm,
drainage
and
flood
protection
fee
was
aimed
at
solving.
D
If
you
will
the
complete
issue,
both
the
issue
to
have
enough
funds
to
cover
the
operations
and
maintenance
of
the
system
and
also
recovering
enough
funds
to
complete
the
the
needed
projects,
so
that
we
can
over
time
do
that
30
million
dollars
worth
of
projects.
If
we
undertake
a
general
obligation
bond
or
a
parcel
tax,
we
can
really
focus
in
on
simply
doing
the
projects
and
look
for
other
ways
to
fund
the
operating
costs.
D
D
Whereas
the
storm
drain
and
flood
protection
fee
by
by
law
was
only
limited
to
property
owners,
not
limited,
not
not
registered
voters,
option
four
is
consider
a
special
stormwater
approved
tax
initiative.
This
could
likely
be
timed
for
the
november
22
or
november
24
election.
We
could
do
a
special
election,
but
as
we
saw
with
the
update
that
we
received
at
earlier
tonight's
meeting,
a
special
election,
the
cost
is
approximately
a
half
a
million
dollars,
so
500
000.
D
So
we
would
likely
want
to
time
any
voter
approved
initiative,
whether
in
option
three
or
option
four
to
when
there
is
a
regularly
scheduled
election.
That
will
require
a
two-thirds
approval
as
well
number
three,
depending
on
how
it's
structured,
but
that
is
an
option,
is
to
to
go
forward
with
a
tax
measure.
D
D
Those
and
projects
that
we
know
about
those
projects
that
have
been
identified
because
the
infrastructure
is
aging
and
in
need
of
replacement
and
the
longer
we
wait
to
do
them
the
more
expensive.
They
become
that
if
a
line
was
a
bond
or
a
line
to
those
projects
would
have
a
sunset
and
then
the
fifth
item,
which
is
to
continue
to
have
conversations
with
the
county
and
other
agencies
within
the
county.
And
if
there
is
an
effort
for
a
regional
ride,
stormwater
project
to
certainly
participate
in
that.
D
A
B
D
We
can
look
at
that
through
the
demographic
analysis
and
look
at
the
type
when,
when
we
say
look
at
the
type
of
property
owners
in
that
first
bullet
under
number,
one
size
is
one
of
the
the
factors
that
we
will
look
into
and
that
can
also
be
attained
through
the
assessment
amount
data,
but
that
work
needs
to
be
conducted
and
funded.
But
in
the
last
three
weeks
we
have
not
begun
that
work,
and
that
is
one
of
the
recommendations
to
begin
at
work.
D
Council,
member
mason,
all
the
ballots
are
stored.
The
city
staff
have
not
gone
through
the
ballots
to
identify,
who
voted
and
how
how
they
voted.
The
ballots
were
counted
in
this
room
with
members
of
the
public
and
and
members
of
of
the
public,
both
present
and
at
home.
All
5
000,
plus
ballots
that
were
received
were
gone
through
and
sorted
in
yes
or
no.
D
In
order
to
undertake
the
analysis
to
to
see
any
demographic
trends,
we
really
need
to
embark
on
that
work,
and
we
have
not
done
that.
I
at
this
point
do
not
have
a
scope
of
work
for
the
vendor
that
we
would
look
to
do
that.
Nor
do
I
know
how
much
that
work
would
cost.
What
I'm
bringing
forward
to
the
city
council
here
at
your
request
is
a
recommendations
and
a
plan
for
next
steps.
D
That
is
one
of
the
next
steps,
and
should
the
city
council
agree
to
embark
on
that
analysis?
We
will
certainly
do
that
and
work
to
obtain
a
full
scope
of
work
and
a
timetable
in
the
last
three
weeks
that
work
has
not
been
done.
It's
not
funded.
We
are
simply
having
the
conversation
to
talk
about
next
steps
right
now,.
B
Okay,
so
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point,
but
I
I
I
just
I
don't
know
why
we
need
a
consultant
to
identify
the
top
20
landowners
and
how
they
voted,
but
I
would
just
leave
it
at
that.
It
should
be
pretty
fairly
easy
to
to
identify
that
information
without
demographics.
We
don't
need
to
know
more
information,
but
we
were
told
that
it
was
public
record
so
who
are
they
and
how
do
they
vote?
B
I
wanted
to
ask
also
around.
I
think
that
there's
questions
that
have
been
kind
of
not
like
clearly
not
maybe
clearly
communicated
around
the
the
public
and
how
the
public's
reaction
has
been
around
the
storm
water,
and
so
I
you
know,
the
areas
that
I
have
largely
heard
have
been
around.
Why
such
a
significant
increase,
and
could
it
be
phased
in
in
higher
quantities
with
within
more
of
like
a
five-year
phase-in
five-year
five-year
five-year,
etc?
B
B
So
I
I
do
just
want
to
state
that
I
appreciate
all
the
work
staff
did.
I
know
that
we
saved
a
lot
of
money
on
consultants
and
in
moving
this
forward,
but
I
do
want
to
take
a
step
back
and
just
be
very
clear
that
I
don't
think
it's
a
big
surprise
what
the
areas
of
concern
were-
and
I
think
we've
got
to
be
honest
with
ourselves
about
that
and
figure
out.
How
do
we
address
them
and
move
forward?
E
That
would
detail
the
costs
associated
to
do
that
study,
so
I'm
in
favor
of
of
hearing
what
that
cost
would
be,
and
until
we
get
the
cost
it's
kind
of
hard
to
move
off.
Of
that
point,
I
think
there
were.
There
was
a
bunch
of
uncertainty
in
this
election
and
covet
made
it
much
more
difficult,
and
I'm
hoping
that
at
some
point
our
residents
will
we
need
our
residents
to
get
behind
this.
E
We
can't
continue
operating
with
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
are
going
to
be
coming
out
of
our
general
fund
and
our
infrastructure
continues
to
age.
We
have
a
we're
a
hundred
years
year,
city,
the
backbone
of
our
storm.
Water
system
is
old
and
we
need
to
fix
it,
and
if
we
don't
have
the
funds
to
fix
it,
then
we're
going
to
have
to
take
that
out
of
our
general
fund.
E
Our
city
manager
calls
that
a
backstop
and
it's
a
different
way
awarding
it,
but
the
money
has
to
come
out
of
somewhere
and
and
but
so
to
to
get
to
the
point
of
where
we're
going
to
go
now,
I'm
first
ready
to
request
that
the
data
be
generated,
and
then
we
need
to
look
at
next.
Steps
from
there
is
to
educate
our
public
on
on
the
different
scenarios
to
pay
for
it
and
to
see
how
comfortable
our
residents
will
be.
E
F
I
am
also
in
in
favor
of
of
actually
all
three
of
the
staff's
recommendations
here
regarding
the
analysis.
What
what
I,
what
I
was
hearing
just
to
to
clarify
with
the
the
discussion
from
council
member
mason
regarding
the
analysis,
what
I
was
hearing
was
that,
on
election
day,
the
ballots
were
went
through
and
they
were
put
into.
This
is
a
yes.
This
is
a
note.
This
is
a
yes.
This
is
a
yes.
This
is
a
no
into
those
piles,
but
not
neces,
but
what
was
not
done
was.
F
This
is
a
yes,
and
this
is
the
parcel
number
and
the
name
from
for
that
one,
and
that
that
level
did
not
happen
on
election
day,
which
I
could
probably
understand,
given
that
it
was
a
public
open
process.
So,
which
is
why
so,
my
understanding
is
that
the
quality
ballots
are
gonna
need
to
be
gone
through
again
to
get
that
level
of
detail,
so
that
analysis
can
be
done.
Is
that
correct.
D
Yes,
councilmember
hamilton
just
to
expound
on
that,
I
think
it
would
have
been
inappropriate
for
us
to
read
off
every
ballot
and
how
each
individual
property
are
voted,
and
so
we
we
can't
undertake
an
analysis
of
the
demographics
and
and
trends.
We
would
return
that
information
without
revealing
individual
hopes
and
it
would
be
aggregated
based
on
trends
based
on
the
demographics
of
of
individual
properties,
but
we
would,
we
would
still
seek
not
to
identify
how
individuals
voted.
D
F
You
so
I
I
would
I
am
in
favor
of
of
doing
the
analysis,
but
also
of
course,
we
want
to
know
what
it's
going
to
cost
before
we
embark
on
it,
and
I
know
that's
the
process
we
would.
We
will
follow
the
I
am
in
favor
of
considering
a
general
obligation,
bond
or
partial
tax,
exploring
that
and
focusing
on
the
capital
projects
and
also
seeing
what
we
can
do
regionally
and
partnering
just
general
comments
in
the
the
post-mortem.
From
all
of
this.
F
I
also
had
some
concerns
about
the
about
the
the
messaging.
I
felt
that
the
messaging
that
that
was
done
all
focused
on
on
was
all
okay,
but
I
don't
think
it
focused
on
everything
that
needed
to
focus
on,
and
I
think
that
I
spoke
to
many
many
residents
as
part
of
this
process
trying
to
convince
them
to
vote.
Yes,
and
I
didn't
end
up
using
any
of
the
arguments
that
were
in
any
of
the
literature.
F
F
It
should
have
been
addressed
sooner,
but
regardless
we
are
where
we
are,
so
I
was
able
to
convince
a
few
a
few
people
from
from
from
node,
yes,
but
not
nearly
enough
clearly,
but
using
those
arguments-
and
I
just
I
just
want
us
to
you-
know-
think
hard
about
the
the
messaging
for
next
time.
If
we
need
to
go
back,
you
know
we're
going
to
be
going
back
to
the
voters.
C
So
I
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
a
couple
of
council
member
mason's
comments,
one
specifically
so
regarding
the
ability
to
provide
senior
discounts
on
something
that
we
place
on
a
property
tax.
Is
that
an
option
for
us,
because
I
think
that
would
definitely
be
a
benefit
to
the
community
if
that's
possible,.
D
C
Mr
salazar
and
members
of
the
city
council-
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
without
doing
some
research.
So
we'll
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
come
back
with
you
about
that.
I
apologize.
I
just
don't
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
and
then
also
in
terms
of
other
revenue
sources,
because
I
I
heard
similar
concerns
from
residents
about
you
know.
C
The
city
should
be
doing
everything
it
can
to
collect
all
the
revenue
that
it
can
be
for
going
back
to
the
voters
so
in
in
terms
of
that,
so
the
all
the
other
things
that
I
believe
that
are
on
our
horizon
right
now
are
general
fund
type
taxes,
and
so
I
wanted
to
get
an
idea.
Is
that
is
an
increase
in
our
general
fund
really
going
to
get
us
where
we
need
to
be
with
storm
drain
or
does
storm
drain
truly
need
a
dedicated
funding
source?
C
D
D
The
the
revenue
no
longer
captures
the
cost.
Many
of
those
expenditures
have
to
occur.
We
have
to
maintain
the
system
we
have.
We
have
infrastructure,
that's
needed.
If
we
can't
afford
it,
we
apply
for
grants.
When
we
get
a
grant,
we
have
to
apply
pay
for
the
grant
match
that
happened
this
year.
We
have
an
option
to
say
you
know
what
we're
not
going
to
apply
for
grants,
because
we
don't
even
have
the
money
for
the
grant
match.
We're.
D
D
What
that
comes
with
is
pushing
off
other
needed
general
fund
programs
and
services
and
other
capital
improvements,
and
so
most
agencies
would
look
at
a
enterprise
like
stormwater
and
try
to
solve
that
with
recovering
additional
money
for
that
enterprise,
and
if
that
is
not
an
option,
we
still
have
mandated
cost,
and
so
the
general
fund
we'll
have
to
pay
for
those
costs
and
that
that
is
just
going
to
come
with
the
trade-off.
You
know.
D
Unfortunately,
san
bruno
has
been
an
under-resourced
city
for
quite
some
time
and
we
have
to
make
very
tough
challenges
every
year
with
what
we
what
we
find
and
what
we
don't
find-
and
you
know
candidly
at
the
end
of
this
month,
it'll
be
three
years
that
I've
been
the
city
manager.
Here
this
this
has
been
a
year
and
a
half
effort.
The
fee
hasn't
been
increased
for
26
for
27
years.
D
What
I
will
say
candidly
is
that
I
do
not
think
this
organization
was
not
transparent
or
that
this
organization
cherry-picked
images.
This
is
infrastructure
that
we
are
not
saying.
If
you
don't
maintain,
if
something
may
happen,
something
has
happened.
We
have
spent
over
1.5
million
dollars
in
the
last
24
months
because
infrastructure
failed
because
we
did
not
maintain
it,
and
that's
that's
that's
that
that
that's
the
reality
and
so
we're
committed
to
doing
everything
we
can
to
continue
to
debrief
the
effort
to
launch
a
new
effort.
D
C
Thank
you
for
that
city
manager,
and
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
what
you're
saying
and
I
can
say
that
that
transparency
goes
back
years
and
we've
we've
had
these
conversations.
We
started
these
conversations
long
back
when
we
first
decided
to
increase
the
water
and
sewer
rates,
and
I
remember
back
then
naively
asking
why
we
didn't
put
our
sewer
rates
on
the
on
the
tax
bill
on
the
property
tax
bill,
and
I
was
cautioned
then
that
it
would
be
far
more
difficult
to
get
an
increase
if
we
were
to
go
that
direction.
C
So
I
agree
with
you
that
we
have
always
been
transparent.
We
knew
this
was
coming.
We
chose
to
focus
on
the
other
two
enterprises,
and
I
think
that
we
have
made
huge
strides
in
both
of
those.
This
was
one
that
we
knew
would
be
difficult.
I
think
that
our
predictions
were
validated
with
these
results.
C
C
I
don't
know
that
we'd
be
able
to
pull
anything.
That's
statistically
significant
out
of
those
few
numbers
of
data
points
to
really
help
us
re-strategize
how
we
would
go
back
out
and
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
really
need
to
convince
the
majority
of
our
our
residents
that
this
this
truly
is
necessary
and
it's
important
and
that
you
know
just
finding
other
revenue
sources.
Other
generic
revenue
sources
for
the
general
fund
will
not
necessarily
help
us
in
this
effort.
C
So
I
wouldn't
push
heavily
on
that,
and
maybe
we
start
looking
at
at
doing
a
different
type
of
tax
measure
and
and
then
finally,
just
in
terms
of
looking
at
other
alternatives,
is
there
a
reason
why
we
couldn't
do
a
storm
fee?
That's
similar
to
our
sewer
fee,
where
it's
it's
tied
to
the
sort
of
build
as
a
service,
rather
than
as
something
that
has
to
be
placed
on
the
on
the
on
the
tax
roll.
C
B
B
It
was
quite
expensive
to
fix
and
I
received
an
email
from
a
resident
with
an
email
attached
to
it,
stating
that
what
happened
was
going
to
happen
about
eight
or
eight
seven
or
eight
years
ago,
and
so
when
I
talk
about
just
being,
you
know
straightforward
with
our
residents.
It's
you
know
saying
that
these
are
things
that
we've
known
about,
but
they've
been
deferred,
and
luckily
nobody
was
hurt.
B
Nobody
was
injured,
but
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
my
conversations
with
a
number
of
residents
were
ultimately
that
we
need
to
invest
in
our
storm
water.
It
does
need
to
be
a
dedicated
fund.
I
think
the
issue
that
I
heard
over
and
over
was
that
there
were
all
these
other
questions
that
were
not
answered
and
I
think
at
one
point
or
another
they
were
answered
for
us.
B
It's
clear
that
most
of
our
funding
sources,
even
those
increases,
are
already
allotted
to
other
needs,
also,
some
of
which
are
infrastructure,
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
clear
about
our
needs
and
kind
of
how
far
we've
come
and
how
far
we
still
need
to
go,
because
we're
really
just
leveling
the
the
bar
right.
Now
we
we
had,
we
really
didn't
have
any
money
a
year
ago
and
not
that
we
have
a
whole
lot
more
money
now.
B
But
I
think
that
there
have
been
a
lot
of
efforts
made
to
generate
revenue
and
the
three
areas
I
just
mentioned:
short-term
rental
charter
city
transfer,
tax
and
cannabis
tax
were
responded
to
during
our
budget
meeting,
letting
us
know
where
the
city
was
with
each
one
of
those.
But
if
you
miss
that
meeting,
then
you
don't
know
what's
going
on,
you
don't
know
what
efforts
are
being
taken
to
achieve
those,
and
so
when
I
talk
about
you
know
responding.
B
B
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
people
asked
about
why
the
community
funds
weren't
being
spent
on
stormwater
and
that
could
have
been
probably
a
whole
page
of
its
of
itself,
not
just
informing
the
public
around
about
what's
going
on
with
the
community
foundation
and
how
those
funds
are
allocated,
but
also
addressing
you
know
why
those
funds
were
being
placed
into
the
rack
as
opposed
to
stormwater,
and
I
I've
responded
to
many
residents
around.
You
know
the
process
on
how
the
rack
was,
you
know
determined
by
the
residents
etc.
B
But
I
I
really
am
just
trying
to
say
that
I
think
you
know
this
is
something
that
is
desperately
needed
in
san
bruno.
We
are
going
to
have
more
emergencies
if
we
don't
invest
in
it,
but
I
do
think
it's
really
important
that
as
a
as
a
city
when
we
communicate
with
the
residents
we've
got
it.
We've
got
to
understand
where
the
residents
are
coming
from
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
our
residents
questions
are
being
answered
head
on,
and
I
just
want
to
see
in
my
notes.
B
If
I
had
anything
else,
oh
and
I-
and
I
would
say
the
the
other
area
too,
that
I
heard
about
was
also
the
measure
g.
We
approved
measure
g
and
we're
not
seeing
our
streets
repaired
overnight
and
I've
told
a
number
of
residents
about
the
great
presentation
that
we
received
a
couple
months
ago
from
dpw
about
this
10-year
street
repair
plan,
and
that's
also
an
area
that
I
think
we
should
continue
to
share
and
communicate
with
our
with
our
residents,
because
there
are
plans
for
street
repair.
B
A
B
I
I
think
for
me
now
that
we've
learned
from
the
earlier
presentation
that
you
know
there's
a
deadline
around
when
you've
gotta
submit
any
measures
you
know
so,
for
the
recall,
I
think
they
said
it
was
like
june
15th.
So
if
we
were
looking
at
placing
this
on
a
future
ballot
measure,
what
would
that
timeline
look
like
and
then
within
that
timeline?
What
would
the
cost
be
to
determine
whether
it's
something
that
would
behoove
us
to
budget
this
year
or
a
future?
B
E
So
at
some
point,
yes
considering
the
recommendation
number
three,
but
that's
that's
further
down
the
road.
I
believe
that
the
initial
analysis
of
the
results
will
be
beneficial
when,
when
staff
could
look
at
that
data,
they'll
have
a
better
knowledge
of
where
it
passed
and
where,
where
where
the
effort
should
be
concentrated.
E
For
me
in
hearing
my
colleagues
comments
about
talking
to
residents,
we
need
we
need
to
to
do
a
little
bit
better
in
educating
them
and
perhaps
looking
at
how
the
increase
won't
be
so
steep
and
and
the
option
three.
There
would
fall
in
my
mind
within
that
being
that
tonight
this
we're
not
gonna
solve
this
tonight,
but
we
need
to
get
ourselves
on
a
path
to
to
deal
with
it.
E
People
may
say:
well,
I
didn't
know
about
that,
and
it's
like
well
here:
here's
where
the
information
is
and
in
kovid
in
the
colburn
year
it
was
very
hard
to
to
to
with
all
the
the
distractions
to
let
people
know
how
important
this
really
is.
So
we
can
tweak
it,
and
I
look
forward
to
many
meetings
on
on
figuring
out
how
we're
gonna
solve
this
problem,
because
it's
really
serious.
A
A
I'm
seeing
no
hands
no
nods
of
saying
no,
so
I
I
see
that
that's
five
thumbs
up.
Okay,
this
is
going
based
on
what
staff
was
giving
recommendation
on
item
number
one
was
initiate
the
analysis
of
the
election
results.
Am
I
hearing
from
my
colleagues
that
they'd
like
to
have
that
looked
into
get
some
data
and
then
come
back
with
a
plan
that
would
be
like
if
we
went
down
this
path,
it
cost
this
that
passed
it
half.
It
cost
that
just
wanted,
because
I've
heard
a
little
bit
about
that.
A
F
C
Miss
I'm
gonna
say
no
and
unless
you
know
number
because
number
one
relates
directly
to
number
two.
So
unless
we're
saying
we
definitely
want
to
do
number
two,
we
want
to
go
another
run
at
it.
I
don't
see
the
value
of
doing
number
one.
So
I'm
I'm
I'm
very
cool
on
one
and
two,
I
I
would
say
no
and
I
would
rather
have
staff
focus
on
three
and
four
personally.
B
A
A
You
know
well,
but
if
there's
possible
funding
it's
like,
why
would
you
turn
it
down
if
there's
available
funding
that
we're
able
to
get
through
whatever
it
might
be?
But
that's
that's
fine.
So
it's
four
to
one
to
participate
in
possible
future
regional
effort
that
has
been
given
direction
to
staff.
Now
we
were
back
to
the
initiate
the
analysis.
Council,
member
salazar
felt
that
you
know
past
conscious.
I
think
that
council
member
hamilton
is
on
the
same,
but
maybe
maybe
I'm
I'm
taking
this
off
a
little
bit.
F
This
I
had
just
a
really
quick
comment
after
council
member
salazar's
comment.
I
don't
think
that
the
analysis
doing
the
analysis
only
benefits
us
for
number
two.
I
I
also
agree
that
going
going
back
and
doing
this
wholesale
process
again
would
be
probably
foolish
and
and
wasteful,
but
I
do
think
that
the
that
understanding
from
a
demographic
perspective,
how
people
voted
would
might
yield
us
important
information
for
number
three
for
for
targeting
our
targeting
our
messaging
and
whatnot.
F
C
Thank
you.
Can
I
clarify
something,
mr
please
only
that
you
know
when
we
we
look
at
the
election
from
the
number.
The
number
one
results
compared
to
the
number
three
we're
not
talking
about
the
same
group
of
people
anymore,
because
we're
talking
property
owners
versus
registered
voters.
So
it's
a
completely
different
body
of
people
so
making
that
that
leap
from
one
to
the
other,
I
think,
would
be
difficult.
So
I
mean
some
of
these
people.
A
D
It
is
my
belief
that
we
would
need
to
utilize
the
services
of
an
outside
entity
to
do
a
comprehensive
demographic
analysis.
At
this
point,
I
can't
say
whether
those
results
would
be
solely
beneficial
for
a
similar
effort
or
may
provide
information
that
is
beneficial
for
a
general
bond
obligation.
For
example,
if
we
see
trends
where
larger
assessment
sort
of
anyone
over
x
amount
of
assessment
voted,
no,
that
may
factor
in
the
type
of
general
obligation
bond
that
we
go
out
for
the
series
of
the
bonds.
So
how
how
much
we
do
at
any.
D
Given
time
we
may
bond
for
5
million.
If
the
data
shows
that
you
know
what
to
bond
for
10
million,
it
may
be
a
no,
and
so
we
may
actually
stretch
out
the
time
horizon
at
which
we
would
undertake
the
bonds
to
do
the
work.
And
so,
if
the
city
council
says
proceed
with
number
one,
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
identify
the
scope
of
work
and
we
would
come
back
to
you
with
that
scope
of
work
and
the
projected
costs.
D
With
regard
to
number
three,
we
would
need
to
begin
work
to
understand
the
the
general
obligation
bond
process
and
the
parcel
tax
you
know.
While
we
have
it
seems
like
a
long
time
till
november
2022,
we
already
have
direction
for
a
number
of
potential
initiatives
that
would
be
on
the
november
22
election
cycle,
a
charter
city
and
a
potential
real
estate
transfer
tax
for
commercial
properties
being
won.
D
We
really
can't
do
all
of
that
work
in
the
first
six
months
of
2022
to
prepare
to
put
something
on
the
ballot,
and
so
should
we
look
to
proceed
down
with
this
effort.
We're
really
gonna
have
to
put
that
into
our
work
program
with
all
of
the
other
strategic
initiatives
and,
most
importantly,
valid
initiatives
that
we
will
be
considering
for
22,
and
so
work
would
begin
on
this
in
this
fiscal
year,
and
so
that's
why
that's?
Why
it's
up
there?
D
A
B
E
D
What
I
have
not
said
up
until
this
point
is
that
we
will
take
another
look
at
our
ability
to
do
it
in-house
and
what
that
pushes
off
for
other
work,
that
is,
on
the
city's
work
program,
as
well
as
based
on
the
scope
of
work.
If
we
have
the
skill
set
to
do
that
in-house.
What
I
said
earlier
is
that
it's
it's
my
recommendation
that
we
would
ideally
use
an
outside
firm
to
have
a
very
professional,
comprehensive
analysis.
D
But
again
that
will
my
recommendation
to
you
will
also
be
informed
by
the
cost
of
that
right
if
that's
cost
prohibitive.
I
may
say
you
know
if
the
council
wants
to
do
this,
here's
what
we
can
do
in-house
with
our
own
resources,
but
you're
not
saying
do
the
work,
you're
essentially
saying
out
of
the
possible
options
for
next
steps,
we're
interested
in
looking
into
number
one.
A
Mr
salazar,
I'm
still
in
them
I'll
go
ahead
with
the
yes
as
far
as
that,
so
you
have
the
direction
there.
You
have
directions
so
far,
basically
was
four
to
one
on
number:
five,
four
to
one
on
number:
one
city
manager.
Do
you
wanna
pause
at
that
point,
or
do
you
still
want
us
to
go
over
whether
it's
number
two
or
number
three?
Or
what
are
your
thoughts
at
this
time?.
D
If,
if
the
council
is
interested
in
us,
adding
this
as
a
to
our
work
program
to
look
at
a
possible
general
obligation
bond
or
parcel
tax
around
our
other
ballot
initiatives
that
we
may
consider
for
20
november
22.,
you
can
do
that
now
or
we
can
have
those
discussions
later.
Does
the
decision
have
to
be
made
tonight?
Absolutely
not.
D
So
I
can
organize
the
work
that
staff
has
to
do,
because
this
has
a
definite
timetable
to
it
and
it
has
an
alignment
to
the
other
ballot
items
that
we
may
be
considering
and
and
all
of
those
potential
ballot
items
really
need
to
come
to
the
city
council
fully
baked
at
the
same
time.
So
you
can
make
a
informed
decision
on
which
items
you
would
like
to
put
on
the
ballot
saying.
D
Consider
a
geo
or
a
parcel
tax
is
not
sort
of
saying
where
you're
you're
you're
definitely
going
to
do
that
effort
and
if
you
would
like,
we
can
sort
of
schedule
further
conversations
at
another
time.
But
if
staff
is
to
begin
to
work
on
it,
we
need
the
direction
and
we
really
need
to
put
it
put
it
within
the
the
award
program.
And
so
we
really
can't
wait.
D
I
would
say
longer
than
october
for
that
for
that
direction
and
that
that
would
really
be
pushing
up
to
sort
of
not
leaving
a
lot
of
time
for
us
to
do
work
in
in
21
on
it,
and
I
I
do
think
it's
absolutely
critical
that
we
do
some
work
in
21
on
this.
If
it's
the
even
remote
possibility
that
the
council
wants
to
consider
for
22.
C
And
so
it's
it
was
this
sort
of
lack
of
concrete
direction
that
caused
me
to
try
to
put
the
brakes
on
on
approving
the
budget,
and
so
I
you
know,
I
think
it
is.
I
think
it's
critical
and
I
think
it's
time
sensitive,
and
so
I
want
to
definitely
make
a
decision
to
work
that
into
the
work
plan.
You
know
whether
it's
going
to
be
two
three
or
four,
but
I
I
think
we
need
to
identify
a
path
forward
sooner
rather
than
later.
E
E
So
if
our
city
manager
says
that
we
could
wait
a
little
bit,
then
I
say
we
wait
and
then
we
get
an
update
on
where
we
are
with
cannabis,
where
we
are
with
with
the
airbnb
and
all
these
other
things,
and
we
can
have
further
discussions
on
it.
Clearly
we're
gonna
do
something,
but
it
that
decision
doesn't
have
to
happen
right
now
at
this
time.
That's
what
I
heard
from
our
city
manager
and
I
think
that's
what
we
should
do.
You.
A
E
We
never
we
never
did
prioritize
our
strategic
initiatives
and
and
that's
something
that
I
think
we
really
need
to
do.
Okay,
that
we
can't
do
everything.
Let
me
just
finish,
mr
mayor
just
30
seconds
more
so
when,
when
stuff
like
this
comes
up,
where
it's
really
important
to
do
something,
we
need
to
be
able
to
say,
take
something
off,
because
it
all
won't
get
done
and
we
need
to.
A
B
B
You
know
if,
if
you're
telling
me
hey,
there's
money
available,
there
has
been
money
available
in
the
last
decade,
then
I
would
of
course
want
to
support
something
where
there's
money
available,
but
if
you're
saying
that
there's
a
possible
future
regional
effort,
nothing
really
is
known
about
it.
Right
now,
and
you
know
san
bruno,
a
smaller
city
compared
to
our
neighboring
cities
may
may
benefit
from
it.
B
B
I
think
it's,
I
think
the
stormwater
initiative
as
a
whole
needs
to
continue
to
be
a
priority
for
the
city.
I
guess
I
would
just
like
to
better
understand
or
better
understand
each
one
of
these
options
and
what
it
is
really
that
we're
trying
to
get
out
of
them
and
I'm
just
not
feeling
like
we've
been
provided.
That
answer.
F
Regarding
the,
I
already
said
my
piece
on
number
one
number:
five,
I
think
you
know
I
it's
hard
to
know
what
we
don't
know.
You
know
the
the
we
need
it
sounds
like
we
just
need
to
keep
our
ears
open
and
and
let
let
all
the
players
know
that
if
there
is
a
county
initiative
that
comes
forward,
that
we
would
be
interested
in
hearing
about
it
and
potentially
participating,
but
not
knowing
what
it
is.
F
You
know
we
can't
commit
to
anything,
as
I'm
sure
no
other
city
would
without
knowing
what
it,
what
it's
going
to
be,
or
maybe
that's,
maybe
it's
going
to
be
a
similar,
a
similar
tax,
but
a
county
tax
that
would
end
up
with
a
much
larger
pool
of
money.
That
would
need
to
be
split
up
among
all
the
cities
and
who
knows
what
our
portion
of
that
would
be.
F
It's
really
hard
to
tell
what
what
what
that
would
be,
but
I
think
we
need
to
you
know
we
keep
our
ears
and
eyes
open
on
that
one
for
number
three
for
number
three
yeah
I
mean
I
think
we
need
to.
I
think
we
need
to
pursue
that.
Do.
I
think
we
need
to
drop
everything
this
month
and
and
push
forward
with
it.
F
No
and
the
city
manager
said
this
said
the
same
thing,
but
it
is
something
that
we're
going
to
need
to
focus
on
in
the
near
in
the
nearer
term,
because
you
know
the
the
the
prop
218
process
failed
and
we
need
to
fund
stormwater.
We
can't
we,
you
know,
as
everyone's
said
repeatedly
tonight
and
for
the
last
several
months.
We
can't
continue
this
way
and
we
have
to.
We
have
to
address
it.
A
Okay,
so
I'll
summarize
in
that
mr
salazar
would
like
to
proceed
on
on
three
I've.
I've
heard
vice
mayor
would
like
to
wait
until
possibly
october.
I've
heard
from
mr
hamilton,
I
believe,
want
to
proceed
with
three
keeping
it
at
the
line
linda.
I
know
you
were
I'm
sorry,
councilmember
mason,
you
were
talking
about
just
not
knowing
like
you
know.
I
don't
know
that
there's
any
regional
efforts
yet,
but
I
don't
wanna
turn
away
after
an
opportunity
or
option
opens
for
me.
A
A
D
Let
me
attempt
to
a
plow
a
way
starting
from
the
bottom.
With
regard
to
number
five,
there
have
been
preliminary
conversations
about
a
regional
effort.
Councilmember
hamilton
is
exactly
right.
We
do
not
know
exactly
what
that
will
be.
We
do
not
know
when
that
will
materialize,
but
we
will
certainly
return
to
the
city
council
with
any
information
that
develops
and
provide
clarity
at
that
time.
D
This
was
really
an
effort
to
let
council
know
that
there
may
be
a
regional
effort.
There,
there's
been
a
county-wide
stormwater
sea
level
rise
and
resiliency
agency
created
they're,
looking
at
regional
projects,
they're
talking
about
finding
a
a
permanent
funding
source
for
the
agency,
and
there
may
be
funds
that
could
support
the
city
of
the
city
of
san
bruno.
What
I
mentioned
is
typically,
these
regional
efforts
do
not
fund
all
of
the
local
infrastructure
they
fund
strategic
grants,
one
of
which
may
be
in
san
bruno
right.
D
But
but
my
professional
assessment
is
that
number
five
is
not
mutually
exclusive:
to
proceeding
with
other
options
to
fund
our
local
infrastructure
and
so
of
the
options
that
we
talked
about
to
look
at
additional
ways
to
fund
our
local
interests.
Our
local
infrastructure
was
to
possibly
consider
a
general
obligation
bond
and
we
would
prepare
all
that
information
and
provide
the
city
council
with
the
full
complement
of
analysis
that
you
need
to
make
that
final
decision.
We're
we're
not
there.
D
But
I
understand
that
there's
a
reluctance
to
say
potentially
even
go
down
that
avenue,
and
so
what
I
wanna
proffer
is
that
your
strategic
initiatives
were
funded
in
the
budget
that
was
approved
on
june
22nd,
and
so
we
are
16
days
into
the
budget
cycle
13
days
into
the
budget
cycle
for
those
initiatives.
I've
committed
to
the
city
council
to
come
to
you
with
quarterly
updates
and
on
the
tickler
file
that
you
guys
have
seen.
D
There
is
a
meeting
at
the
august
27th
meeting
where
I
want
to
come
and
give
you
guys
an
update
on
your
funded
initiatives
where
things
fit
and
give
you
a
status
update.
Why
don't
we
talk
about
this
thing
when
we're
talking
about
the
full
complement
of
strategic
initiatives
with
regard
to
number
one,
I
think
what
I've
heard
is
a
majority
of
the
city
council
say.
A
A
D
Yes,
mayor
medina,
I
would
just
sort
of
clarify
that
I
think
a
majority
of
the
council
has
said
not
proceed
with
number
three,
but
do
the
preliminary
work
to
articulate
to
the
city
council.
What
would
be
involved
in
a
potential
general
obligation,
bond
or
parcel
tax?
But
I
wouldn't
want
the
public
to
walk
away
tonight
that
the
council
has
made.
A
The
decision
it
is
simply
to
begin
looking
at
that
happen
at
that
cabinet,
you're
correct.
That
was
my
understanding
as
well.
It
was
just
because,
as
you
said
too,
we
need
to
know
we
have
next
november.
Your
concern
to
us
is
you
can't
just
keep
waiting,
you
know,
and
then
we
have
a
short
window
with
other
elements
that
are
put
on
us,
councilmember,
mason
and
vice
mayor
medina.
B
Thank
you,
city
manager,
grogan,
for
that
clarification,
so
I'll
just
so,
I
would
support
one
to
three
and
five,
and
I
just
would
also
reiterate
and
look
you're
not
reader,
but
just
say
that
when
we're
looking
at
the
possibilities
also
consider
other
public
entities
and
what
they're
looking
at
potential,
whether
they're
looking
at
potential
taxes
or
any
other
measures
as
well,
so
that
we're
not
competing
with
each
other.
So
thank
you.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
that
when
our
city
manager
said
in
we
could
we'll
return
to
this,
and
it
would
need
to
be
done
by
october.
That
was
absolutely
fine.
That's
that
was
my
main
point
like
tonight.
We're
not
saying
yes
we're
going
to
pursue
it,
that
we're
going
to
make
that
decision
and
with
the
clarity
provided
by
the
city
manager
that
staff
will
be
doing
some
of
that
work
and
we're
going
to
get
updates
on
on
other
things.
So
I'm
I'm
fine
with
this
moving
forward.
In
that.
A
D
We
will
continue
to
participate
in
conversations
about
a
potential
regional
effort.
We
will
return
to
the
city
council
with
a
scope
of
work,
an
estimated
cost
and
timing
for
a
demographic
analysis
of
the
prior
218
effort,
and
we
will
continue
talk
about
funding
mechanisms,
potentially
a
general
obligation
binary
of
parcel
tax
when
we
talk
about
and
receive
an
update
on
our
strategic
initiatives,
because
this
effort
really
would
be
a
significant,
a
significant
one
and
need
to
be
dovetailed
with
other
potential
ballot
initiatives.