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Description
San Bruno City Council Meeting July 27, 2021
Whole Meeting
trt 2:38
C
D
A
Here,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
and
would
ask
our
council
member
linda
mason
to
please
lead
us
in
the
pledges
yeah.
E
A
All
thank
you
very
much.
Councilmember
mason.
Now
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
three
public
comments
for
items
not
on
the
agenda.
Individuals
will
be
allowed
up
to
three
minutes.
It
is
council's
policy
to
refer
matters
raised
in
this
form
to
staff
for
investigation
and
or
action
where
appropriate,
where
appropriate.
The
brown
act
prohibits
this
council
from
discussing
or
acting
upon
any
matter,
not
agendas,
and
if
you
do
with
it,
if
you
could
raise
your
virtual
hand
at
this
time
and
I
we
can
start
having
the
city
clerk
call
in
the
folks.
Please.
B
Good
evening
this
is
ken
ibera,
lucia
court
mayor
and
council.
I
would
like
to
formally
object
to
the
city's
policy
on
revocable
encroachment
permits
in
the
last
three
years
on
behalf
of
homeowners,
while
applying
for
building
permits.
There
have
been
at
least
three
properties
with
existing
structures
such
as
walkway
steps,
concrete
curves
or
brick
planters
that
were
cited
to
be
encroaching
in
the
city
right
away,
which
is
typically
an
area
from
two
feet
to
six
feet
behind
the
sidewalk.
B
I
object
to
this
policy
because
it
appears
that
only
owners
who
are
applying
for
building
permits
are
being
cited
for
the
encroachment
and
being
forced
to
pay
the
fee.
A
neighbor
next
door
can
have
the
same
encroachment
but
will
be
exempt
until
they
apply
for
a
building
permit.
If
ever
there
are
numerous
encroachments
throughout
this
city,
I
would
estimate
hundreds
if
not
over
a
thousand
encroachments
that
will
not
be
cited
by
the
city.
Again,
only
those
who
apply
for
a
building
permit
are
cited.
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
ibera,
for
your
comments.
I
am
not
seeing
any
other
hands
up.
This
will
be
your
last
opportunity
under
public
comments
for
folks
that
are
with
joining
us
this
evening.
If
they
wish
to
speak,
not
seeing
any,
we
will
move
on
to
item
number
four
announcements
and
presentations.
A
The
first
one
is
just
as
a
reminder
that
the
regular
city
council
meeting
for
august
10
2021,
is
cancelled.
That
has
been
our
normal
practice
to
cancel
one
of
the
meetings
in
august,
and
so
we
will
have
one
meeting
in
august
will
be
the
fourth
tuesday
of
that
month.
A
A
1-833-422-4255
all
are
welcome,
including
walk-ups,
and
regardless
of
immigration
status.
Saint
bruno's
is
located
at
555
west
san
bruno
avenue
in
san
bruno
very
quickly.
You
know,
I
think
it's
important
for
all
of
us,
and
I
know
that
the
san
bruno
in
this
county
has
done
very
well
at
getting
vaccinated.
I
believe
all
of
my
colleagues
have
been
vaccinated,
and
that
is
just
an
indication
that
we
believe
it
is
important
and
it's
for
many
people's
safety
and
just
going
to
an
event.
A
I
haven't
been
with
some
folks
since
march
of
2020
and
actually
speaking
to
a
couple
of
them
these
gentlemen
last
monday,
to
tell
me
of
relatives
that
they'd
lost
due
to
covet
19..
So
it
is
serious,
it
is
still
apparent
and
evident,
and
the
delta
virus
is
very,
very
contagious.
A
So
I
and
I
believe
my
colleagues
who
have
been
vaccinated
all
encourage
all
of
us
to
to
do
our
part,
and
it
is
right
there
for
all
to
get
and
again
it
is
free.
A
Www.Sanbruno.Ca.Gov
bayhill
ed
rome
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
pamela
wu
to
briefly
about
that,
and
just
show
us
a
little
bit
of
that
whole
room.
F
F
And
I
apologize
in
advance,
I
was
hoping
for
in
a
live
tour
of
the
website,
but
due
to
the
amount
of
information
that's
available
on
the
website,
it's
going
to
cause
a
dramatic
slowdown,
so
I
decided
to
do
a
snip
shop
of
the
website,
provide
you
an
overview
and
do
in
a
powerpoint
traditional
powerpoint
fashion.
F
So
this
is
the
first
home
page
when
you
log
into
the
website,
click
on
anywhere
on
the
page
and
will
take
you
to
the
lobby
where
a
greeter
will
greet
you,
you
have
to
start
by
clicking
him
and
then,
once
you
click
on
him,
the
buttons
will
be
activated.
He'll.
Give
you
an
overview
of
this
virtual
room
and
also
before
you
leave
the
lobby,
make
sure
you
sign
in
for
information
that
includes
your
name,
your
email,
your
contact.
F
Once
you
leave
the
lobby,
you
will
first
go
to
the
exploration
room
if
you
choose
by
clicking
on
the
tab
on
top
and
also
get
into
the
room,
look
at
the
various
information
that
is
available
in
the
room.
For
instance,
there
is
the
fasting
tentative
map
for
phase
one,
a
beautiful
coloring
for
phase
one,
the
bay
hill
specific
plant
itself,
and
also
there
is
a
3d
life
model.
That's
in
the
center
of
the
room.
Looking
around
the
rest
of
the
exploration
room,
there
is
information
pertaining
to
the
general
plan,
the
zoning
code.
F
Any
information
that
has
been
made
public
will
be
available
in
this
room.
Looking
around
you'll.
Imagine
that
you're
standing
next
to
the
youtube
headquarter,
911
cherry
as
if
the
building
is
right.
Next
to
you
before
you
exit
the
exploration
room,
make
sure
that
you
toggle
on
the
tab
that
says
existing
versus
proposed,
while
the
image
will
change
from
the
existing
condition
to
the
future
3d
model,
once
you're
done
with
the
exploration
room,
you
can
go
into
the
presentation
room
by
clicking
on
the
tab
again
in
the
middle
of
the
website.
F
Again,
there's
a
lot
of
information.
Relevant
information
that's
available,
such
as
a
zoom
in
feature
for
any
of
the
video
that
you
wish
to
see,
and
the
female
precenter
will
have
a
five
different
presentation
for
you
that
talks
about
the
purpose
of
doing
a
specific
plan.
Why
we're
doing
this?
Why?
When
did
the
city
start,
and
it
goes
into
the
specific
of
the
phase,
one
development?
How
tall
is
the
building,
how
many
square
feet?
What
are
the
major
components
and
the
very
last
tab
project
timeline
will
give
you
an
idea?
What
is
the
upcoming
milestone?
F
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
comments
and
showing
a
little
bit
of
that
virtual
room
that
folks
can
go
on
to
and
learn
about.
So
thank
you.
I've
seen
no
hands
up
at
this
time.
Oh
there
you
go
vice
mayor
medina.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
medina.
This
is
an
exciting
website.
G
I
was
wondering
if
a
youtube
presentation
on
using
that
website
could
be
made
kind
of
like
what
what
what
was
just
conducted
now,
so
that
people
can
kind
of
be
a
little
familiar
going
to
youtube,
seeing
that
this
is
how
I
navigate
the
site,
if
that
would
be
helpful,
just
a
suggestion.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
we
will
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
consent,
calendar
item
five.
All
items
are
considered
routine
or
implemented
in
an
earlier
council
action
and
may
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
There
will
be
no
separate
discussion
unless
requested.
So
obviously
we
have
items
a
through
m.
Quite
a
few.
Are
there
any
items
that
colleagues
wish
to
pull
for
a
separate
vote.
A
Not
seen
any
vice
mayor.
G
I'm
sorry
I
I
jumped
the
gun
there
a
little
bit.
Mr
mayor,
I
I
was
just
interested
in
pulling
one
of
the
items
for
a
discussion
and
perhaps
a
modification
which
item
please.
That
would
be
five
f.
Five.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
items
for
separate
discussion
or
clarification
not
for
a
separate
vote,
so
councilmember
mason.
E
I
just
wanted
to
click
to
clarify.
There
was
a
modification
on
the
minutes,
so
I
don't
know
if
it
need.
I
would
you
say
I
guess,
for
discussion.
A
Thank
you
any
other
items.
Okay.
At
this
time
we
have
item
d
and
f
to
have
further
discussion
on
and
and
if
there's
anybody
from
the
community,
you
can
put
up
your
virtual
hand
now,
but
we're
going
to
start
with
b
and
then
we'll
go
to
f.
So
first
item
is
d,
approve
the
regular
meeting
minutes
for
the
regular
meetings
of
july
13,
2021.,
councilmember
mason.
E
Oh,
I
just
I
received
an
email
from
from
the
clerk
just
stating
that
there
was
an
update
made
or
a
modification
made
on
the
minutes,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
her
mouth.
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
the
record
that
there
was
a
change
in
the
minutes
and
I
think
mrs
thurman
can
can
speak
as
well.
If
she'd
like.
A
B
A
Okay,
is
there
anything
else
from
anyone
on
the
minutes?
Oh
that
was
item
d.
Let's
move
on
to
item
f
is
adopt
a
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
execute
a
five-year
contract
with
west
valley,
construction
for
the
annual
water
system,
spot
repair
services
in
an
amount
not
to
exceed
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
year,
2021
2022.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
also
wanted
to
thank
staff
for
answering
some
of
my
initial
questions
I
had
on
this
item.
My
concern
with
the
with
the
item
is
how
there
were
no
bids
on
this
project
and
and
then
moving
forward
in
approving
a
five-year
contract
for
a
contractor
without
competition
without
competition.
G
However,
I
will
suggest
that
I
could
support
it,
provided
the
staff
comes
back
with
report
on
what
was
completed
in
the
in
in
this
upcoming
year,
and
then
it
would
be
okay,
just
I
just
wanted
to
to
kind
of
have
a
little
bit
more
clarity
on
on
what's
happening
with,
with
with
this
contract.
H
Oh,
I
had
a
similar
concern
with
the
with
the
the
five-year
contract
and
but
then
you
know,
reading
deeply
into
the
into
the
report
that
came
along
in
the
packet.
It
was
clear
that
the
city
can
terminate
the
contract
at
any
time,
so
that
made
me
more
comfortable
with
it.
H
The
you
know,
my
understanding
is
that
we've
been
pleased
with
the
work
that
west
valley
has
done
for
us
in
the
past,
and
we
have
no
expectation
that
this
would
change
in
the
future,
but
nevertheless
we
are
not
locked
in
bro
for
all
five
years,
if,
if
circumstances
should
change,
so
that's
what
made
me
more
comfortable
with
it-
and
I
wanted
to.
H
I
had
this
on
my
list
to
pull
it
as
well,
but
it
had
already
been
pulled
because
I
thought
it
would
be
important
to
to
state
that
here
in
the
meeting
for
folks
who
might
just
read
the
agenda
item
and
not
necessarily
read
the
packet.
E
I
guess
just
a
more
general
question
about
when
we
have
only
a
single
response,
so
does
the
city
make
an
attempt
to
make
calls
and
just
see
if
there's
any
and
garner
additional
interest
and
then
when
we
don't
receive
responses,
does
the
city
call
some
contractors
that
we
thought
would
be
interested
that
didn't
answer
to
say,
hey,
why
didn't
you?
Why
didn't
you
respond
or
why
didn't
you
submit
a
bid.
A
Thank
you,
council
members,
for
your
questions
and
comments,
staff,
the
manager
or
is
there
somebody
who
would
like
to
speak
to
some
of
those
items.
I
Javon
grogan
city
manager,
I'll
ask
about
richie
to
address
the
questions
that
were
raised
on
this
item.
Hey
juan.
I
know
you
provided
a
number
of
their
responses,
but
can
you
go
through
the
spot
repair
process,
but
what
is
typically
used
for
the
amount
that
we
normally
spend
the
80
to
90
000
over
the
last
few
years,
but
then
also
talk
about
the
contracting
process,
as
well
as
the
contracts
code
and
the
challenges
we
have
to
encourage
people
that
did
not
submit
a
bid
to
them.
J
Good
evening,
honorable
mayor
city,
council
members,
thank
you.
My
name
is
halen
ritchie
pub
interim
public
works
director.
I
heard
a
number
of
concerns
and
questions
come
up.
Firstly,
it
was
competitively
bid.
We
advertised
as
we
do
all
of
our
projects
that
are
over
a
certain
amount
and
it
turned
out.
We
received
no
bids.
J
We
actually
had
also
included
in
there
the
contractors
that
we
worked
with
previously
and
sent
them
the
the
bid
package,
but
they
had
also
not
responded
and
when
that
occurs,
there's
a
section
in
the
code
and
let
me
pull
that
up
real
quick.
It
is
section
public
contract
code,
section
2016.,
which
states
if
no
bids
are
received,
the
legislative
body
may
have
the
project
done
without
further
complying
with
this
chapter.
J
So
what
that
means
is,
we
did
not
receive
any
bids,
and
so
we
contacted
west
valley
who
had
previously
performed
this
work
favorably
for
the
city
and
they
were
actually
one
of
the
contractors
we
had.
You
know
provided
the
bid
to
and
historically
these
types
of
bids
are
difficult
to
to
solicit,
because
contractors,
typically
like
large
projects,
they
like
to
get
their
work
done
and
then
to
leave
these
projects
are
small,
they're,
sporadic
because
their
emergency
as
needed,
and
so
you
know
it's
different.
J
This
goes
for
sidewalk
repair
projects
that
are
more
on-call
based.
This
is
not
unique
to
the
main
replacement,
and
so
because
this
is
a
it
was
advertised
as
a
multi-year
just
because
there's
an
amount
of
administrative
time
that
goes
into
procuring
and
then
with
the
low
interest.
J
You
know,
I
think
we
also
the
other
component
is
that
there
was
a
cap
as
to
what
the
increase
in
price
can
be,
and
so
that
locks
in
you
know
the
reasonable
rate
that
we
were
able
to
to
obtain
to
a
three
percent
and
so
that
they
couldn't
raise
the
prices
on
us
and,
to
be
honest,
I'm
more
concerned
that
they
will
ask
not
to
renew
the
contract
than
it
is
for
us
to
say
you
know
we
don't
want.
We
want
them
to
do
the
work.
J
A
Think,
council,
member
mason
also
just
wanted
to
know
and
she'll.
Stop
me
if
I'm
saying
incorrectly
just
about
the
process,
so
we
we
didn't,
have
a
lot
of
interest.
Do
we
reach
back
out
to
people?
Do
we
call
folks,
do
we
follow
up
in
that.
J
Yes,
we
did
contact
a
west
valley
to
ask
why
they
had
not.
I
guess
they
were
just
not
interested
at
that
point.
They
were,
they
may
have
been
potentially
a
bit
confused
by
the
bid
package
as
well,
and
because
it's
it's
unusual
because
it's
it's
an
on-call,
you
know
what
contractors
are
typically
assisting
or
you
know
set.
You
know
prices
that
this
is
the
work
that
they're
supposed
to
do,
and
so
I
think
it
just
wasn't
something
that
that
they
had.
J
You
know,
had
interested
in
bidding
on,
but
I
think
we
we
contacted
them
later
and
you
know
in
attempting
to
procure
a
contract
we're
able
to
to
work
with
them
on
that.
E
Okay,
so
I
would
just
say
that
I
understand
the
now
the
pro
the
process
that
we
just
went
through,
but
I
think
just
for
our
future
reference.
It
would
be
nice
to
reach
out
to
more
than
one
of
the
contractors
that
didn't
respond.
Even
now
I
mean
even
after
tonight,
just
to
say
hey
what
can
we
do
next
time
so
that
we
get
more
of
a
competitive
bidding
process?
E
A
I
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
also
note
that
we
did
reach
out
to
multiple
contractors
when
the
bid
first
went
out,
and
only
after
there
were
no
bids
that
you
reach
out
to
only.
G
Yeah,
so
I
just
wanted
to
see
if,
if
the
city
manager
felt
there
was
anything
wrong
with
having
staff
report
back
prior
to
the
beginning
of
the
next
year
of
this
contract,.
A
I
And
off
agenda
memorial
we
can
put
that
in
the
work
plan
to
provide.
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
do
the
whole
fiscal
year.
So
if
council
is
amenable,
I
think
giving
that
off
agenda
item
at
the
beginning
of
next
fiscal
year
that
we
would
cover
the
entire
21
to
22
fiscal
year,
which
would
seem
like
a
nice
cut-off
point
and
no
problem
with
providing.
A
Okay-
oh
I'm
sorry
councilmember,
salazar.
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
support
the
vice
mayor's
recommendation
for
that
report.
C
I,
in
the
past,
I've
asked
for
some
statistics
on
how
our
repair
program
or
a
replacement
program
or
renovation
has
affected
our
requirement
to
do
emergency
repairs,
and
it
was
the
expectation
that,
as
we
renovate
our
infrastructure,
that
those
emergency
repairs
should
become
less
prevalent,
and
so
it
would
be
good
if,
within
that
reporting,
we
also
have
a
historical
perspective
on
what
what
has
been
spent
in
the
past
and
what
has
been
alleviated
by
our
our
upgrades
that
we've
done
over
the
past
few
years.
A
And
I
think
what
the
city
manager
had
asked
if
it
would
be
a
full
budget
cycle
year,
which
I
I'm
seeing.
People
were
amenable
to
that
and
then
in
concurrence
with
the
vice
mayor
and
council
member
salazar
as
well
for
myself.
A
So
if
there
is,
is
there
any
other
comments
or
is
there
action
by
the
council
in
regards
to
consent
items
a
through
emma
councilmember
hamilton
I'll,
make.
A
The
vice
mayor
is
seconded
motion
made
by
hamilton
seconded
by
vice
mayor
medina
roll
call.
Please.
A
Thank
you,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
sixty
session,
I'm
a
authorized
city
manager
to
finalize
and
release
the
reimagining
tampering,
land
use
fact
sheet
and
before
we
continue,
I
will
be
recusing
myself
due
to
my
close
proximity
or
within
the
thousand
feet.
That
is
now
the
state
law
used
to
be
500,
unfortunately,
not,
unfortunately,
that
I'm
handing
it
over
to
the
vice
mayor,
because
he
has
a
good
last
name
vice
mayor
medina,
but
that
I'm
not
able
to
participate
within
a
very
important
topic.
But
this.
A
G
I
Okay,
thank
you.
Vice
mayor
medina
members
of
the
council
and
members
of
the
public,
I'd
also
like
to
ask
the
city
clerk
to
make
sure
that
jay
show
from
cbre
is
brought
into
the
presentation
room.
F
Melissa
jay
is
having
trouble
he's,
locking
on
just
give
him
a
minute.
I
just
called
him
okay,
great.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome.
I
All
right,
so
we
we
will
get
settled.
Why
don't?
I
begin
with
my
introductory
comments
and
I
really
was
gonna
start
by
saying
wow
wow
wow
wow,
what
an
exciting
item
we
we
have
before
us
tonight:
reimagining
tantrand,
javon,
grogan
city
manager,
I'll
be
joined
shortly
by
jay
shull
from
cbre
and
we'll
talk
about
his
efforts
on
this
project
and
his
work
today.
I
I
also
want
to
thank
our
community
and
economic
development
director
pamela
wu,
who
will
also
be
available
to
the
city
council
for
any
questions
and
has
done
a
lot
of
the
heavy
lifting
to
get
to
where
we
are
today.
With
this
visioning
document.
I
This
is
an
amazing
amazing
opportunity
for
the
city
of
san
bruno
44,
acres
of
probably
the
one
of
the
top
three
development
sites
in
northern
california
really
sitting
at
the
nexus
of
101
280
380,
a
bart
station
attached
to
it,
cal
train
high
capacity
bus
route
along
el
camino,
real
so
centrally,
located
in
the
peninsula
between
san
francisco
and
the
silicon
valley
and
so
close
to
sfo.
You
barely
have
to
get
on
the
freeway.
I
This
site
for
the
city
of
san
bruno
has
historically
been
an
amazing
resource
and
it
is
our
hope
in
partnering,
with
both
the
property
owners
and
the
investors
that
are
interested
in
tantra
and
that
we
can
reimagine
tanfran
and
have
it
be
that
locale
of
destination
e-commerce
office
and
and
community
collaboration.
So
we're
really
here,
50
years
since
the
mall
open
the
tanfran
mall
opened
in
1971..
I
We
also
sit
here
122
years
since
the
tanfram
racetrack
open,
and
we
all
know
the
story
of
of
seabiscuit,
and
we
all
know
the
story
of
this
site.
This
site
has
amazing
history,
tied
to
it
the
first
airplane
to
take
off
and
land
on
a
armored
naval,
cruel
cruise
vesser
vessel
left
from
tamp
tan
fran
race
track
and
landed
back
on
tampa
and
racetrack
after
landing
on
the
uss
pennsylvania.
I
We
also
know
that
that
this
site
was
home
to
the
tan
tran
assembly
center
in
a
dark
period
in
american
history,
where,
for
a
total
of
171
days,
it
was
home
to
over
8
000
japanese
americans,
who
were
in
turn
there.
I
But
we
also
know
that
this
site
is
a
site
that
has
undergone
significant
renovations.
We
know
that
in
2005
there
was
a
significant
renovation
and
as
of
late,
both
sears
and
jc
penney's.
The
two
anchors
on
the
western
portion
of
the
mall
haven't
had
one
has
closed
and
the
other
is
currently
undergoing
a
liquidation
process
and
we'll
close
at
some
point,
and
so
the
city
really
launched
this
effort
that
we're
calling
reimagining
tan
fran
for
a
number
of
reasons.
I
I
But
we
also
stand
here
today
with
the
fact
that
all
three
of
the
privately
held
parcels
at
tanfan
are
actively
being
marketed,
qyc,
which
is
the
a
pinch,
a
state
pension
firm
from
australia
that
owns
the
mall
proper,
so
that
middle?
Third,
that's
in
the
image.
That's
in
your
top
left
hand
corner
and
the
jcpenney's
parcel
are
both
independently
actively
seeking
buyers
for
the
site,
and
so
they
they
they
have
the
site
out
and
are
seeking
buyers.
I
The
the
graphic
in
the
middle
shows
you
that
our
tan
franchise
is
the
number
one
site
by
land
acres
in
the
jc
penney's
sale,
jc
penney's
is
currently
selling
25
of
their
store
locations
across
the
country
in
the
tam
tram
site
is
biggest
at
15
at
just
over
15
acres.
I
I
That
jay
show
will
talk
about
we're,
calling
it
our
fact
sheet
for
reimagining
tan
fran,
and
it
really
outlines
a
vision
of
a
mixed-use
transit-oriented
development
that
has
a
blend
of
commercial
retail
housing,
which
we
all
know
is
a
desperate
need
here
in
the
peninsula.
As
well
as
a
potential
hospitality
use,
we
have
designated
a
minimum
of
a
thousand
housing
units,
knowing
that
this
location
as
a
tld
site
is
an
excellent
location
for
housing,
and
so
cbre
will
now
talk
about
their
work.
I
I
K
Good
evening,
yes,
yes,
I
am
on
yeah
would
love
to
present.
Could
you
give
me
sort
of
sharing
rights
because
I've
actually
tweaked
the
the
doc
a
bit
since
you-
and
I
last
spoke,
so
I've
got
a
updated
version?
I
think
I
didn't
realize
this
was
going
to
be
a
virtual
presentation
and
I
was
a
little
bit
too
bold
in
my
in
my
my
font,
size
and
everything
I
thought
was
going
to
be
projecting
this
onto
a
screen
in
a
room
with
you
all,
so
I've
had
to
right
size.
K
C
F
K
Right
well,
thank
you
all
good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
council
members.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
with
you
all.
I
can't
tell
you
what
a
pleasure
it's
been
to
actually
be
engaged
with
jovan
and
pamela
wu
and
the
city
staff.
K
This
is
one
of
those
rare
opportunities
that
a
professional
gets
to
actually
think
about
almost
a
clean
slate
in
terms
of
a
44
acre
transit
oriented
development
site
in
the
middle
of
a
of
a
of
a
city
that
that
you
can
just
use
your
imagination
in
terms
of
what
are
the
possibilities,
given
that
we
know
that
jc
penney's
is
in
play
and
definitely
is
going
to
be
doing
something
to
transform
the
the
center
saratoge
has
already
approached
the
city,
so
we
know
that
they
have
intentions
to
actually
redevelop
their
portion
of
the
site
and
we've
had
conversations
as
javon
said,
with
queensland
investment,
corp
and
jovan.
K
So
I
think
we'll
learn
more
as
we
go
along
here,
so
we
were
engaged
to
actually
come
up
with
a
vision
in
terms
of
what
would
any
prude
investor
developer
be
thinking
about
in
terms
of
creating
a
mixed-use
environment,
and
so
since
all
the
various
participants
here
are
going
to
either
sell
and
or
re-capitalize
and
reinvestment
in
their
in
their
particular
parcel,
giving
some
certainty
around
what
the
city's
expectations
are
in
terms
of
what
the
city
needs.
K
What
are
the
community
sort
of
aspects
of
that
that
these
developers
and
investors
should
address
is
really
the
the
purpose
behind
the
fact
sheet.
So
it's
really
we've
been
engaged
to
we've
been
engaged
to
actually
interact
with
all
the
participant
parties
proactively,
manage
their
expectations
and
work
with
them
to
identify
redevelopment
solutions
that
are
really
aligned
with
this
vision
that
are
financially
viable,
that's
in
everyone's
best
interest
and
that
provide
sort
of
long-term
sort
of
community
benefits
to
the
city
of
san
marino.
I
Absolutely
keep
going
and
we
we
will
talk
at
the
end.
Okay,
great.
K
So
so
the
property
is
actually
owned
by
four
property
owners.
You
know
bart
and
is
one
of
those
four
jc
penney's
you
can
see
there
on
the
right
portion
of
the
slide
is:
is
the
property
that's
in
the
sales
process
today?
It's
our
understanding
that
newmark
is
in
conversations
with
one
one
investor,
in
other
words,
they've
picked
a
buyer
and
they
are
negotiating
a
person's
sale
contract,
whether
or
not
they're
successful.
K
In
that
we
don't
know,
and
we
certainly
don't
know
the
identity
of
who
that
buyer
is
at
this
point
in
time
I
could
speculate
and
guess,
but
I
don't
think
that's
in
anybody's
best
interest
at
the
moment.
So
right
now,
they're,
unknown
qic
owns
the
enclosed
portion
of
the
mall
and
target
is
a
participant
they're,
a
long-term
ground
lessee
their
ground
lease
runs
into
2070,
or
so
so
we
can
almost
consider
them.
Almost
a
fee,
simple
owner
in
terms
of
their
their
views
are
certainly
long
term
and
saratoga.
K
K
Less
heat,
so,
in
effect,
there
is
a
reciprocal
easement
agreement
that
actually
binds
all
five
of
these
parties
together,
and
it
has
very
various
restrictions
with
respect
to
how
the
property
needs
to
be
sort
of
used
all
50
years
old,
all
geared
towards
what
a
retail
enclosed
mall
was
should
be
in
the
last
40
or
50
years,
but
it's
certainly
not
really
relevant
with
respect
to
sort
of
how
anyone
would
operate
a
property
like
this
today.
K
Not
germain
is
probably
a
better
term,
and
so
all
the
parties
realize
that,
in
order
to
create
these
these,
these
new
uses
on
site,
most
of
which
are
prohibited
by
the
rea
and
are
also
prohibited
under
the
current
planning
from
the
city.
It's
going
to
require
participation
and
collaboration
from
all
the
constituent
parties,
so
the
vision.
K
So
I
would
say
that
the
last
16
months
has
been
unprecedented
in
all
of
our
lives
and
we
we've
we're
seeing
such
a
huge
sort
of
social,
cultural
and
economic
shift,
not
only
as
a
result
of
the
pandemic,
which
is
obvious
to
all
this.
Given
that
we're
doing
this
virtually
today,
it's
also
affected
as
culturally.
The
murder
of
george
floyd
has
really
sort
of
brought
back
a
sense
of
community
and
importance
of
social
welfare
of
our
neighbors
and
our
fellow
citizens
in
ways
that
we
haven't
seen
since
the
1960s.
K
So
there's
a
huge
shift
there
and
and
we've
also
seen
some
of
the
economic
disparities
that
have
been
highlighted
by
the
pandemic
as
well.
We're
also
seeing
guys,
like
me,
are
beginning
to
phase
out
of
the
the
the
workforce
typical
job
markets.
Boomers
are
retiring
and
over
the
next
decade,
there's
going
to
be
one
of
the
largest
transfer
of
wealth
from
boomers
to
millennials
in
the
history
of
our
country,
so
those
are
going
to
create
some
significant
economic
shifts
that
you've
seen
play
out
here
in
the
pandemic.
K
If
you
look
at
downtown
san
francisco,
for
example,
the
financial
district,
it
is
a
ghost
town
today,
but
if
you
look
at
the
neighborhoods
in
san
francisco,
where
there's
housing,
there's
commerce,
there's
there's
retail,
those
places
are
still
resilient
and
they
really
sort
of
thrive.
K
Well,
in
many
of
those
neighborhoods
throughout
the
bay
area,
those
communities
have
taken
back
the
streets,
and
so
there's
been
much
more
of
a
focus
on
pedestrian
access,
less
vehicular
dependency,
those
those
ships
are
here
to
stay
they're,
not
trends,
they're
trends,
they're,
not
just
a
result
of
remedies
that
take
care
of
sort
of
how
we
get
together
doing
the
pandemic,
and
so
how
we,
how
we
look
at
housing,
how
we
interact
in
terms
of
working
living
and
playing
are
all
in
transition
and
any
investor
develop
for
today.
K
All
of
these
aspects
of
a
translating
development
are
considerations
that
they
are
going
to
put
on
their
white
board
as
well.
This
is
a
30,
000
foot
view
high
level
view
of
what
any
prudent
investor
would
want
to
consider
as
it
addresses
a
community
like
the
city
of
san
bruno
with
respect
to
how
do
we
deal
with
placement
and
so
the
various
sort
of
uses
here,
office,
tech,
life
sciences,
housing
hospitality
are
all
prohibited,
both
under
current
planning
and
the
reciprocal
easement
agreement,
and
so
to
begin
to
have
dialogues
about
that.
K
We
need
to
have
all
the
five
parties
at
the
table
sort
of
willing
to
discuss.
What's
the
what's
the
right
mix
of
these
various
uses,
the
city
has
put
a
marker
down
with
respect
to
housing,
to
address
the
housing
crisis.
Not
only
is
san
bruno
experiencing,
but
we're
experiencing
statewide,
and
so
the
tanforan
site
is
really
ideal
for
providing
at
least
a
housing,
1000
housing
units
on
site,
and
so
that's
something
that
we've
already
communicated
with
the
fee.
K
Simple
owners
with
respect
to
the
city's
goal,
with
respect,
as
they
think
about
remaking
tanforan
that
they
need
to
include
in
their
mix
housing.
I
would
say
that
so
far,
sartaj
has
been
looking
at
this
as
purely
a
million
square
foot
life
sciences
park
and
the
jc
penney's
marketing
and
sales
team
at
newmark
have
been
really
touting
life
sciences
as
the
primary
focus
of
their
value
creation
on
that
portion
of
the
site
as
well.
So
now
we're
introducing
housing
as
a
critical
component.
K
In
terms
of
how
do
we
get
this
to
be
sort
of
the
cool
place
to
be
at
san
bruno?
It's
probably
probably
my
term
in
terms
of
coolness,
but
I
we
want
this
to
be
sort
of
have
a
buzz
and
a
vibe
to
it
that
this
is
a
place
where
people
want
to
come.
Meet
congregate
hang
out
in
addition
to
going
to
work
in
addition
to
commuting
on
bart,
so
the
other
aspects
of.
K
K
That's
creating
a
lot
of
social
anxiety
today,
california
wildfires
the
flooding
you
saw
in
europe
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
the
flooding
and
the
heats
the
the
excessive
temperatures
in
the
pacific
northwest
are
all
examples
that
climate
change
is
real
and
as
a
result
of
that,
a
good
portion
of
our
community
is
really
really
focused
on.
K
How
do
we
deal
with
that,
and
how
do
we
deal
with
that
in
a
sustainable
resilient
manner,
so
trying
to
target
sort
of
carbon
neutrality
as
a
goal
here
over
the
life
of
this
project
is
something
that
we
think
is
a
prudent
goals
that
we're
going
to
set
for
the
city
and
again,
the
census
is
tod
sort
of
access
to
the
pedestrian
focus
and
the
the
fact
that
you
can
sort
of
live
work
and
walk
to
any
aspect
of
your
lifestyle
and
experience
you
want
throughout
the
bay
area
is
critically
important,
so
sort
of
breaking
that
sort
of
high
level.
K
30
000
foot
view
down
into
the
various
components
in
terms
of
looking
at
this
from
the
city's
perspective,
we've
broken
it
down
into
infrastructure
and
environment
and
how
we'd,
like
the
the
investors
to
be
viewing
this
community
and
housing,
and
connectivity
and
mobility
with
respect
to
sort
of
market
drivers.
You
know
the
forces
that
are
shaping
the
the
real
estate
landscape
today
are
all
about
sort
of.
K
How
do
you
deliver
sort
of
low
carb
performance
buildings,
high
performance,
low
carbon
buildings,
and
so
again,
I
think
that
all
of
our
the
parties
that
are
involved
here
are
up
to
speed
on
these
things
as
a
goal,
and
I
don't
think
that
we're
imposing
anything
that's
owners
or
different
than
the
way
they'd
approach
this
process
anyway,
adopting
a
circular
and
sort
of
economic
principles
with
respect
to
both
the
construction
of
the
project,
sort
of
living
and
working
here
and
the
long-term
asset
management
perspective.
K
Again,
I
don't
think
is
a
new
sort
of
point
for
any
of
these
participants.
In
this
thing.
It's
it's
really
saying
this
is
important
city.
How
do
we
align
up
and
align
on
these
things
and
the
delivery
becomes
really
at
the
tactical
reality
and
once
once
we
get
together
and
they
actually
start
to
the
massing
plan
portion
of
this
thing
and
sort
of
where,
where
various
components
of
this
thing
end
up
on
the
site
is
really
going
to
be
where
the
overall
sort
of
reality
of
the
landscape
starts
to
take
shape.
K
So
the
community
housing
again
housing,
the
thousand
units
we
want
it
to
be
suitable
for
all
age
groups
and
cultures.
We
want
a
diverse
product
offering
with
respect
to
housing,
so
a
combination
of
for
sale
and
for
rent
would
be
ideal
and
and
master
the
obvious.
Clearly,
we
want
all
the
developers
investors
to
engage
with
neighboring
communities
to
understand
sort
of
what
the
surrounding
community
is
thinking
about.
What
the
right
solution
set
here
is
and
then,
finally,
on
the
page,
the
connectivity
and
the
mobility.
K
Clearly
the
bark
station,
there
is
an
incredible
incentive
in
terms
of
activating
lifestyles
with
respect
I
can
be
without
a
car.
I
can
go
from
my
home
to
my
office
in
the
city
or
my
office
down
in
san
jose
in
the
silicon
valley,
without
ever
having
to
get
into
a
vehicle
what
a
great
amenity
and
clearly
we
want
to
imbue
into
this
thing.
You
know
nature
and
green
spaces
designed
into
the
new
streetscape
and
landscape
for
this
site.
That
includes
a
combination
of
sort
of
public
and
private,
open
spaces.
K
Process
so
in
order
to
get
the
changes
that
we'd
like
to
see
happen,
it
requires
an
amendment
to
the
city's
general
plan.
It
will
require
an
amendment
to
the
reciprocal
immigration
agreement
that
tanforan
has
now
imposed
upon
it.
It
requires
establishing
a
new
specific
plan
which
amends
the
the
zoning
across
the
site
for
the
allowance
of
these
different
uses,
life
sciences,
housing,
hospitality
and
anything
else
that
comes
into
the
spray
environmental.
K
The
eir
required
here
in
terms
of
all
parties
will
have
to
participate
in
that,
and
then
there
are
a
couple
of
other
sort
of
compatibility
plans
for
the
san
francisco
airport
land
use
compatibility
plan
in
san
mateo,
county,
comprehensive
airport
land
is
planned,
is
another
sort
of
aspect
of
getting
the
box
to
get
this
thing
to
a
point
where
a
construction
permit
can
be
or
sort
of
issued.
K
One
of
the
things
I
love
about
pamela
is
she's
actually
committed
to
if
the
parties
are
aligned
and
ready
to
rock
and
roll,
and
you
can
see
in
the
upper
right-hand
corner
we're
hoping
that
occurs
by
the
end
of
this
year,
early
part
of
2021
that
if
we
can
do
this
as
expediently
as
possible,
that
literally
from
the
time
that
you've
agreed
on
sort
of
a
master
plan,
a
specific
plan
start
to
finish
is
24
months,
which
would
be
just
ideal
with
respect
to
the
investors.
It
creates
certainty
and
certainty
means
valuation
and
evaluation
enhancement.
K
Then.
Finally,
cbre's
role
is
really
to
manage
the
interaction
between
all
the
parties
to
create
that
alignment
to
work
collaboratively
to
get
to
a
design
solution
and
a
financially
viable
sort
of
specific
plan
that
works
for
both
the
owners
and
the
city.
We'll
bring
everybody
to
the
table
to
work
on
achieving
those
goals
and
those
goals
simply
put
or
really
we
want
smart,
green
and
accessible
for
all.
Just
to
keep
it
simple
and
we're
going
to
do
it
in
a
in
a
basically
an
open
and
transparent
manner.
K
I
So,
thank
you,
jay
members
of
the
city
council
and
the
public
just
the
last
word
on
next
steps.
So
the
next
steps
that
we've
outlined
is,
after
our
discussion
today
and
direction
from
council.
We
will
move
forward
with
finalizing
this
fact
sheet
and
distribute
it
to
property
owners.
The
potential
investors
that
jay
has
been
in
communication
with,
as
well
as
the
wider
investment
community.
That
may
be
interested
in
tampering
as
well
as
our
public.
Here
in
the
city
of
san
bruno
and
san
mateo
county.
I
We
will
continue
to
have
meetings
with
current
property
owners
and
potential
investors,
as
jay
mentioned,
convening
everyone
around
a
shared
vision.
In
many
ways,
this
project
is
geared
at
being
proactive
being
ahead
of
the
ball,
not
waiting
until
people
purchase
the
property
and
come
to
the
city
and
say
here's
here's
my
vision,
here's
here's!
I
What
I
want
to
develop
as
a
new
property
owner,
but
instead
getting
out
ahead
of
it,
articulating
the
vision
and
then
working
around
a
shared,
a
shared
vision
that
you,
the
city
council,
will
will
confirm
and
then
work
through
the
the
master
planning
process
and
that
master
planning
process
is
really
the
process
where
we're
really
gonna
sit
down
and
and
put
panda.
Pin
the
pad.
I
Do
a
lot
of
amazing
brainstorm,
envisioning
and
really
the
goal
is
to
arrive
at
a
vision
that
is
beneficial
for
the
san
bruno
community,
the
property
owners
and
provide
all
of
the
amazing
public
realm
benefits
that
are
articulated
in
the
document.
As
far
as
the
sample
timeline
and
again,
the
caveat
is
subject
to
owner
participation.
I
We
would
like
to
begin
the
master
plan
process
in
late
21
or
early
22.
That,
as
per
the
schedule
we
talked
about,
is
a
12-15
month
process.
I
So,
depending
on
the
conclusion
of
that,
we
would
like
to
have
the
master
plan
to
adopt
it
in
either
the
sometime
between
the
winner
of
22
or
the
summer
of
23,
and
then
we've
also
outlined
a
process
where
all
of
the
project
specific
entitlements
and
that's
when
the
property
owner
pulse
master
plan
will
come
in
and
say
this
is
the
building
I
want
to
build.
Have
it
entitled
and
have
the
construction
permits
each
of
those
phases?
I
I
We
we
will
partner
with
the
property
owners,
to
move
the
process
and
do
as
much
concurrent
processing
as
we
can,
but
these
large
master
plans
take
several
years
and
the
entitlements
take
some
time
and
so
in
the
normal
cadence
and
and
the
normal
expectation.
I
It's
important
to
know
that
you
know
likely
will
not
be
a
groundbreaking
here
until
2014
or
25,
and
that's
an
important
process
step
for
us
all
to
walk
into
this
going.
The
development
community
knows
it,
but
as
a
community
that
just
really
wants
to
see
that
revitalized
hand
friend.
Now
it's
helpful
to
to
set
that
expectation.
I
So
that
concludes
our
presentation.
We're
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
direction
from
the
city
council
again.
Thank
you
to
jay.
Still,
thank
you
to
pamela
wu,
we're
just
beginning.
G
Excellent,
I
suppose
we
should
go
to
my
colleagues.
Do
we
have
any
questions.
G
H
H
So
I
am
so
incredibly
excited
to
authorize
the
release
of
the
stack
sheet
tonight.
I
wholeheartedly
support
this
effort,
as
everyone
on
this
call
knows
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
san
bruno.
I
know
firsthand
that
this
mall
has
been
a
vital
piece
of
san
bruno's
story
for
generations.
My
late
mother
worked
at
this
mall.
H
Both
of
my
sisters
worked
at
that
mall.
My
very
first
job
when
I
was
15
years
old
in
19,
was
at
this
moment
taphrana
served
as
a
gathering
place
for
san
bernardins
for
the
last
couple
of
generations,
but
you
know
we
all
know
that
damn
friends
been
struggling
for
some
time
now,
and
this
is
not
the
fault
of
the
merchants.
This
is
not
for
the
property
managers.
H
I
want
to
thank
our
city
staff
and
the
team
that
they've
assembled
for
being
proactive
in
in
getting
out
ahead
of
this
and
being
transparent
with
our
potential
partners,
who
may
be
interested
in
the
site
regarding
where
we
stand
on
as
a
city
on
our
vision
for
the
east
of
cambridge.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
where
you
have
seen
in
these
sorts
of
developments.
What
has
been
the
most
successful
so
has
it
been
mixed?
Has
it
been
all
one?
You
know
one
area
and
then
I'm
just
curious
to
know
from
your
perspective
as
a
consultant.
E
Oh
no,
no,
I
I'm
sorry.
No,
I
wouldn't
say
around
a
mall.
I
would
say
you
know
the
idea
of
this
next
to
transit,
we're
going
through
this
whole
transition
right
now,
as
a
city.
What
would
you
think
is
probably
the
the
best
fit
for
tan
friend
right
now.
K
I
think
the
mixed
use
sort
of
development
path
that
you're
on
I
mean
that
that
and
that's
why
I
use
the
example
of
the
san
francisco
financial
district.
That's
not
a
mixed
use!
Community!
That's
that's
a
basically
a
series
of
office
towers
with
a
couple
of
residential
towers
thrown
in
mostly
vacant,
even
in
the
best
of
times,
because
they're
foreign
investors
that
don't
live
there.
I
mean
it
just
shows
that
that
resilient
communities
require
a
mix
of
uses
and
they
they
require
connectivity.
And
that's
the
really
beautiful
thing
about
tan
tran.
K
Is
it's
a
large
sort
of
slate
of
land
that
you
can
really
envision,
creating
sort
of
the
new
sort
of
best
of
all
worlds
that
creating
a
new
community
can
create
today
on
a
transit
site
I
mean
so
to
be
able
to
basically
have
employers
reduce
their
carbon
footprint
because
somebody's
not
getting
in
their
car
to
go
to
work,
they're
getting
they're,
basically
walking
their
home
to
the
bart
station
and
taking
bart
into
their
office.
I
mean
it's
it's.
It
offers
sort
of
all
the
components
for
the
future
long-term
success
of
this
thing.
E
So
so
I
similar
to
tom,
but
not
necessarily
a
native
san
bernan,
went
to
tanfran
growing
up.
It
was
a
safe
place
to
go
with
a
bunch
of
friends
in
middle
school
and
high
school.
It
used
to
have
a
movie
theater,
and
I
think
you
know
today
going
to
tampering,
makes
me
somewhat
sad
to
be
really
honest.
I
went
to
hillsdale
the
other
day
and
it
was
even
in
a
pandemic
booming.
I
mean
there
were
people
eating
at
the
food
court.
E
There
were
people
walking
around,
they
have
a
new
movie
theater.
I
just
have
been
recently
driving
by
stonestown,
quite
often
because
of
just
because
of
some
responsibilities.
I've
had,
and
you
know,
they've
put
in
a
whole
foods
a
target
they're
talking
about
housing
right
now,
mixed
with
retail,
and
it
appears
to
be
really
the
future
of
what
we're
looking
at
in
the
bay
area.
Repurposing
malls,
we
as
everybody
on
I
believe
that
has
been
following
our
meetings
knows.
We
have
desperate
need
for
housing.
E
We,
when
we
were
looking
at
mills
park
a
number
of
people,
both
in
support
of
and
against
mills
park.
I
think
everyone
was
saying
the
same
thing
to
the
council
put
housing
in
tanforan
when
we
look
at
businesses
and
where
businesses
can
find
a
home.
I've
heard
from
many
people.
Well,
why
don't
you
guys
build
more
office
space
in
san
fran
and
when
we
look
at
retail
and
the
need
and
the
loss
that
we've
really
suffered
in
this
pandemic,
losing
both
sears
and
looks
like
jcpenney
as
well?
E
Not
only
do
residents
still
need
a
place
to
go
and
shop,
but
you
also
need
the
revenue.
The
city
needs
the
revenue
and
we
can't
lose
it,
and
so
what
you've
presented
to
us
has
really
answered
the
desires
of
many,
if
not
most,
of
the
residents
here
in
san
bernardino,
and
so
I'm
really
excited
to
see
what
comes
before
the
city.
I
think
that
you
have
a
council
here
who
is
really
open-minded
and
looking
forward
to
continuing
the
renaissance,
that's
happening
in
san
bruno.
We
have
development
coming,
we
have
youtube.
E
We
saw
earlier
in
the
presentation,
the
bay
hill
plan
and
the
bay
hill
plan
links
directly
to
by
crossing
the
street
to
tan
fran,
it's
probably
about
a
10-minute
walk
and
then
for
those
of
you
who
may
be
watching
and
aren't
so
familiar
with
san
bruno.
We
also
have
a
downtown
streetscape
plan
and
if
you
look
at
the
three
at
a
you
know
from
a
bird's
eye
level,
you
really
have
a
beautiful
triangle
where
an
individual
can
easily
walk
from
one
point
to
the
next
within
10
minutes.
E
G
Thank
you,
council,
councilwoman
mason.
If
anybody
else
has
a
comment
or
councilman
salazar,
do
you
have
anything?
Thank.
C
You
yeah
just
just
a
few
comments.
I
don't
have
any
questions,
but
I
I
did
want
to
thank
our
city
manager
and
his
staff
for
bringing
this
to
us.
This
is
a
a
unique
opportunity.
It's
not
something
that
comes
along
all
the
time
and
I
know
in
the
past
we've.
C
You
know
that
after
the
last
renovation
of
of
the
mall,
it
had
a
rebirth
that
lasted
for
a
while
and
it
was
appropriate
for
the
time
and
given
the
constraints,
but
it
really
seems
like
the
stars,
are
aligning
around
all
of
these
properties
and
and-
and
I
think
it's
great-
that
that
we're
being
proactive
and
looking
looking
forward
to
some
possibilities-
sort
of
charting
that
ahead
of
time
and
and
not
being
reactive
or
waiting
until
sometimes
it's
too
late
to
make
those
decisions
so
definitely
appreciate
this
coming
forward.
C
It
looks
looks
like
a
great
vision.
The
the
marketing
piece
looks
fantastic,
so
I'm
definitely
in
favor
of
moving
forward
on
that.
G
Thank
you,
councilman
salazar.
I'm
gonna
make
my
comment
and
then
we'll
open
up
for
public
comment,
but
I
think
I
think
our
council
here
has
pretty
much
hit
it
on
the
head.
This
is
an
amazing
opportunity.
G
This
is
a
time
that
has
just
happened.
The
pieces
are
together
that
we
have
three
different
owners
of
tanfran
that
are
interested
in
doing
something
different,
and
I
am
behind
this.
I
I
this
has
so
many
positive
things,
and
I
wanted
to
express
my
appreciation
to
our
city
manager
and
to
our
our
team
to
proactively
put
this
together,
that
putting
this
fact
sheet
and
letting
the
developing
the
developers
out
know
out.
There
know
that
there's
no
better
size
place
location
anywhere,
I'm
a
little
biased.
G
Of
course,
I'm
because
I'm
from
san
bruno
but
dropped
dropped
right
at
transit,
there's
no
better
place,
44
acres.
So
thanks
again
for
all
of
this
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
for
a
public
comment,
city
clerk,
thurman,.
B
Yes,
the
first
speaker
actually
so
far,
the
only
speaker
is
paul.
Wapinski.
L
I,
the
speaker
from
cbre,
kept
saying
that
we
want,
and
I'm
wondering
where
did
he
get
the
guidance
for
what
the
facility
is
planning
to
be?
Was
that
something
that
was
that?
Is
that
his
opinion,
or
is
that
something
that
the
city
gave
him
to
put
the
thousand
houses
and
all
the
biotech
or
whatever
was
going
to
be
in
there
and
then
my
other
thing
is
when,
when
we
do
this
plan,
we
never
include
what
what
is
the
city
infrastructure
going
to
be
to
support
that?
L
So,
if
there's
a
thousand
houses
figure
three
people
per
house,
that's
another
3
000
people,
how
many?
What's
the
ratio
of
police
officers
to
citizens?
So
how
many
you
know
how
many
police
officers
do
we
have
to
hire?
How
many
fire
firefighters
you
know?
Do
we
have
enough
fire
engines
to
cover
that
much
space?
Do
we
need
to
buy
another
one?
Is
there
gonna
do
we
have
to
build
another
fire
station?
L
You
know
that
all
those
questions
that
that
are
in
my
mind-
and
I
have
three
minutes
to
talk,
but
you
know
what
other
city
services
do
we
have
to
to
provide?
That's
going
to
come
out
of
the
city's
coffers
and
maybe
not
the
developers,
or
can
we
somehow
if
we
need
to
have
that
all
that
infrastructure
increase
for
the
city?
L
I
Vice
mayor
medina
at
a
high
level,
there
was
a
lot
there,
but
let
me
just
say
that
when
new
development
goes
through
the
review
process,
we
absolutely
look
at
all
of
the
municipal
service
requirements
and
factor
those
in
and
there
are
mechanisms
to
ensure
that
development
pays
their
fair
share.
I
G
Okay,
action
required
city
manager.
I
Yeah,
so
the
the
requested
action
is
for
the
city
council
to
direct
the
city
manager
to
finalize
and
release
the
document,
and
so,
if
there's
a
motion
in
a
second,
we
will
proceed
following
that
action.
G
C
G
G
Okay,
let's
take
a
three
minute
recess
as
we
get
the
real
mayor
back
into
the
room
and
we'll
see
everybody
shortly.
G
G
B
B
A
D
D
G
D
D
So
our
agenda
for
tonight
is
we'll
go
through
a
little
background,
we're
going
to
discuss
and
ask
to
introduce
the
amendments
to
title
vii
and
talk
about
next
steps.
D
Our
primary
focus
is
to
update
them
for
internal
consistency
and
also
for
consistency
with
current
law
and
we've
had
a
variety
of
policy
discussions
for
those
revisions
and
so
far
we've
completed
titles
one
through
six.
So
tonight
is
title
seven,
so
title
seven
consists
of
15
chapters
and
I'll
just
very
briefly,
go
through
them
and
what
we
plan
to
do
so.
7.04
there's
some
minor
amendments.
D
We
do
have
some
more
substantive
amendments
to
the
tspc,
we'll
talk
about
those
separately
and
similarly
to
the
city
traffic
engineer.
Actually,
those
amendments
in
those
two
sections
are
being
made
primarily
for
the
same
reason
that
we'll
discuss
a
7.16
stopping
standing
and
parking.
We
do
have
some
amendments
proposed.
D
D
We
do
have
some
substantive
amendments
and
we'll
talk
about
where
those
came
from
and
prior
city
council
direction
on
those
and
then
the
final
list
is.
We
have
some
amendments
to
vehicles
for
hire,
none
to
pedestrians,
some
amendments
to
bicycles
and
a
minor
amendment
to
skateboards
and
that
closes
out
with
enforcement
and
we're
not
proposing
any
amendments
to
those
at
this
time.
D
So,
let's
dive
in
and
talk
about
the
tspc
and
really
there
are
two
main
things
that
we
wanted
to
do
with.
The
amendments
is,
first
of
all
to
conform,
the
statement
of
who's,
a
member
of
the
tspc
to
current
and
best
practices.
The
code
is
really
obsolete
in
terms
of
it.
It
talks
about
staff,
members
and
other
people
being
members
of
the
committee
and
they're,
not
members
of
the
committee,
so
we've
just
cleaned
that
up
and
I
think
that's
fairly
fairly
clear.
D
But
there
is
at
least
a
there
is
staff
information,
expert
engineering
information
that
is
provided
as
part
of
their
recommendation,
and
the
tspc
is
of
course
free
to
make
a
different
recommendation
if
they
want
to,
but
the
way
that
the
the
code
was
written
it
it
it
sort
of
had
the
recommendations
going
in
in
the
wrong
direction.
I
guess
I
would
say
from
a
risk
management
standpoint,
so
the
experts
should
be
recommending
to
the
recommending
body,
tspc
and
the
so
we've
just
tried
to
make
that
clear.
D
You
might
you
might
ask
yourselves
well.
Why
is
that?
And
the
answer
is
explain,
sort
of
in
in
detail
of
the
staff
report,
which
is
the
city,
can
get
what's
called
design.
Immunity
for
accidents
that
occur
as
a
result
of
traffic
features
or
traffic
signs
or
traffic
markings,
and
that
design
immunity
means
that
that
somebody
who
might
be
injured
in
an
accident
at
the
intersection
can't
blame
the
city
for
the
accident
if
the
design
of
the
intersection
was
reasonable
when
it
was
approved.
D
There
are,
on
the
other
hand,
cases
in
which
cities
do
not
have
that
expert
opinion
or
do
not
clearly
have
that
expert
opinion
backing
up
their
design
and
those
cities
have
to
litigate
those
cases
they
they
go
to
trial
or
they
get
settled
for
for
a
lot
more
money
than
if
they
had
been
able
to
get
immunity.
So
those
are
really
the
main
changes
to
that
particular
chapter
and
then
going
right.
Along
with
that,
we
made
a
couple
of
changes.
D
Excuse
me
to
the
city
traffic
engineers
section
the
the
one
that
we're
having
trouble
recruiting
you
you
heard
perhaps
earlier,
and
the
important
thing
here
is
we
we
did
this
with
the
collaboration
of
our
outside
counsel,
who
helped
us
out
in
one
of
these
cases.
D
The
idea
is
to
make
sure
that
the
city
traffic
engineer
has
all
of
the
authority
that
is
legally
necessary
to
recommend
and
implement
those
design
decisions
subject
to
city
council
approval,
of
course,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we,
we
just
added
some
verbiage
in
the
city
traffic
engineers
description
to
make
it
consistent
those
duties
consistent
with
that
individual's
job
description
and
you'll,
see,
particularly
at
the
end
in
subsection
e,
where
it's
got
a
whole
list
of
things
that
the
city
engineer
can
do,
and
those
things
are
also
in
the
in
the
job
description.
D
In
7.16,
we
only
made
a
couple
of
minor
changes.
We
at
the
suggestion
of
the
police
chief
exempted
curbing
your
wheels
at
rolled
curbs,
which
was
explained
to
me,
was
ineffective
at
stopping
the
car
from
from
rolling
down
or
up
the
hill.
I
didn't
actually
know
that,
and
then
we
also
emitted
the
blanket
prohibition
on
for
sale,
signs
and
vehicles,
and
this
is
a
topic
that
does
frequently
come
up
where
there's
a
car,
or
maybe
multiple
cars
parked
on
the
street
with
for
sale
signs.
D
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
vexing
problem
to
solve,
but
the
place
to
solve
that
is
in
the
city,
sign
ordinance,
and
that
is
part
of
the
zoning
code
and
when
that
comes
up
I'll,
be
recommending
that
the
sign
ordinance
be
split
into
two
separate
sections,
one
section
that
covers
private
property.
In
other
words,
what
kind
of
sign
can
you
have
on
your
property
and
another
section
that
covers
public
property,
which
is
what
kinds
of
signs
can
individuals
put
up
on
on
our
streets
and
so
on?
D
So
moving
on
to
7.36.
This
is
an
important
section
that
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
previously
when
we
were
talking
about
title
v
and
you'll.
Remember
that
title
five
deals
with
nuisances
and
when
we
went
through
that
we
simultaneously
looked
at
7.36
and
we
told
you
that
what
we
were
going
to
do
was
once
you
decided
what
you
wanted
in
title
5.
We
would
then
make
sure
that
the
analogous
sections
in
7.36
were
conformed
to
that.
So
let
me
just
briefly
go
over
that.
D
D
You
also
wanted
to
clarify
the
definition
of
an
inoperable
vehicle
and
specifically
that
inoperable
vehicles
included
vehicles
that
have
a
certificate
of
non-operation
from
the
dmv.
Just
because
the
dmv
says
they're
not
operable,
doesn't
mean
that
they're
registered
and
legal
and
don't
need
this
definition
of
an
inoperable
vehicle,
so
that
change
was
also
made
in
7.36.
D
So
when
we
were
talking
about
title
v,
the
city
council
did
have
a
fairly
lengthy
discussion
and
said
that
at
that
time
they
wanted
to
continue
allowing
one
operable
trailer.
Camper
boater
rv
were
otherwise
legally
allowed
again.
This
is
on.
This
is
on
private
property,
because
that's
what
title
5
addresses.
D
So,
along
those
lines,
we
have
recommended
that
this
particular
chapter
7.36
the
only
applicable
to
private
property
and
not
to
public
property,
and
you
might
wonder
well
that
seems
counterintuitive
why?
Why
would
that
be
well?
The
reason
for
that
is
because
all
of
the
procedures
that
are
in
title
7,
7.36
in
particular
that
relates
to
the
removal
of
vehicles
relay
solely
to
removal
of
vehicles
from
private
property.
D
The
city
has
never
really
used,
at
least
as
I
understand
it,
title
vii
or
chapter
7.36-
to
tow
vehicles
from
public
property
that
is
abandoned
or
inoperable
vehicles
from
public
property.
So
let
me
give
you
an
example
of
that.
If
you
have
a
vehicle
that
is,
for
example,
lacking
current
registration
or
for
one
reason
or
another,
cannot
be
operated
on
a
public
street.
D
If
that
vehicle
is
parked
on
a
public
street,
it
can
be
towed
from
from
public
property
without
going
through
many
of
the
due
process,
requirements
that
apply
only
to
private
property,
and
so
what
was
very
confusing
about
this
section
was
that
it
included
the
words
or
public
property
when
it
really
should
have
just
stuck
to
private
property,
and
that's
what
we've
done
so
that's
kind
of
a
long
explanation
for
what
we've
done
to
this
section.
D
But
it
was
really
a
key
thing
that
did
come
up
in
some
litigation
with
the
city
and
we
were
able
to
successfully
explain
the
reasons
for
why
it
was
written
the
way
it
was
written
to
the
court.
But
we
would
have
been
much
happier
not
having
had
to
explain
it
in
the
first
place,
and
this
is
an
issue
that
can
recur
time
and
again,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
cleaned
up
and
taken
care
of
at
7.36
when
we're
going
through
this.
D
So
we
do
have
a
couple
of
other
chapters
to
quickly
go
through
so
vehicles
for
hire,
I'm
actually
doing
something.
That
was
against
my
advice
previously,
which
was,
if
it's
not
broken,
don't
fix
it
even
if
it's
obsolete,
but
this
is
sort
of
broken
and
obsolete,
so
I
couldn't
resist
but
to
to
suggest
that
most
of
this
section
really
be
repealed,
so
the
city
does
not
regulate
taxi
cabs.
That's
all
this
section
talks
about.
We,
we
don't
regulate
them.
D
I
don't
know
that
we've
ever
regulated
them,
except
maybe
in
the
distant
past,
and
there's
really
no
reason
to
impose
an
obligation
on
staff
that
they're
either
not
doing
now
and
really
not
capable
of
doing
for
a
variety
of
reasons
and
importantly,
ride.
Sharing
services
like
uber
and
lyft
are
not
taxi
cabs
that
are
not
regulated
under
the
section.
They
don't
fall
into
the
definition
of
a
taxi
cab.
They
are
separately
regulated
by
the
cpuc,
as
I
think
many
of
you
know.
D
D
If
you
want
to
do
that,
then
I
would
propose
amending
title
three.
When
we
go
back
to
our
cleanups,
we
we're
keeping
a
list,
and
this
would
be
one
thing
that
we
might
wish
to
do
you.
We
cannot
require
all
uber
and
lyft
drivers,
regardless
of
domicile
to
obtain
a
business
license.
We
can
only
require
those
that
are
domiciled
in
the
city
to
do
that.
D
Bicycles,
another
obsolete
section
that
we
propose
to
repeal
this
says
that
the
fire
department
licenses
all
bicycles.
Well,
they
don't.
I
don't
know
that
they
ever
have.
They
certainly
don't
want
to,
and
it
certainly
seems
like
a
bad
idea
to
do
that,
but
we
do
want
to
retain
the
definitions
which
includes
motorized
bicycles,
because
we
do,
I
believe,
want
to
retain
the
prohibition
against
riding
on
sidewalks.
D
That's
a
very
common
safety
ordinance
that
that
many
cities
have
and
we're
not
proposing
to
eliminate
that
as
part
of
the
repeal
one
question
that's
come
up
on.
This
is
well
what
about
those
bicycle
rental
companies
that
leave
their
bicycles
all
over
the
place,
and
you
know
the
city
had
a
brief
unfortunate
experience.
I
think,
with
with
lime
bike
some
years
ago,
maybe
four
years
ago,
and
they
sort
of
came
and
went
very
quickly
once
we
told
them
that
their
business
was
not
permitted
and
they
were
encroaching
in
the
right-of-way.
D
Some
of
those
entities
have
approached
cities
in
the
past,
not
our
city
but
other
cities
and
said
we'd
like
to
enter
an
agreement
with
you,
we'd
like
to
do
this
or
that
we'd
like
to
work
on
some
sort
of
regulatory
structure,
and
we
haven't
been
approached
and
we
can
certainly
command
these
regulations
if
and
when
that
occurs.
But
it's
probably
premature
to
do
it
now,
because
it's
solving
a
problem
that
we
don't.
D
So,
finally,
next
steps
is
to
review
the
proposed
amendments,
introduce
the
ordinance
if
you
don't
have
any
questions
or
wish
to
make
any
changes.
If
you
do,
let's
talk
about
them,
we
would
have
to
reintroduce
if
there
are
sort
of
major
substantive
changes
you
want
to
make,
but
if
just
minor
ones
we
can
probably
go
ahead
and
introduce
it
at
this
meeting
and
as
opposed
to
a
subsequent
meeting
and
then
otherwise.
On
that
schedule,
adoption
would
be
scheduled
for
the
24th
of
august
and
then
finally,
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
heads
up.
D
Title
10
is
going
to
be
scheduled
out
of
order.
That
is
out
of
numerical
order
for
that
same
meeting,
and
the
reason
for
that
is.
The
county
is
requesting
that
the
city
adopt
their
model,
ordinance
relating
to
food,
waste,
packaging
or
food
packaging,
and
so
a
bunch
of
cities
on
the
peninsula
are
doing
that.
D
A
staff
has
already
written
really
most
of
that
staff
report
and
that
ordinance,
the
county's
ordinance,
and
so
we
think
it'll
be
ready
to
come
at
that
meeting
and
there
are
actually
not
very
many
other
changes
that
we're
proposing
to
that
title.
So
we
thought
why
not
get
it
out
of
the
way
and
then,
if
that's
done,
then
we'll
only
have
three
more
titles
to
do.
Eight,
nine
and
eleven
before
we
go
back
for
the
cleanup.
A
H
D
Clairvoyance
was
one
of
my
one
of
my
quads.
H
Did
well
with
it.
Thank
you
I
I
just
I
had
to
make
the
comment
that
I
actually
did
have
a
bicycle
license
that
was
provided
to
me
from
the
fire
department
in
1970
seriously
back
when
I
barely
remember
it,
but
I
do
remember
that
it
was
a
thing,
but
I
agree
that
it
isn't
the
thing
anymore.
D
E
Thank
you
for
bringing
back
this.
You
met
with
some
with
our
suggestions.
E
It
did
have
a
couple
more,
so
we
can
can
we,
I
guess
we'll
just
go
through
it
through
them,
yeah
of
course,
so
the
first
one
is
page
4
or
132
of
182
in
the
packet,
and
it's
the
it's
one
of
the
first
comments.
E
7.08
040
duties-
and
it's
just,
I
think,
changing
the
language
to
provide
a
forum
for
discussion
seems
at
least
to
me
to
kind
of
water
down
the
the
ability
of
the
committee
to
do
more,
and
so
what
I
wanted
to
suggest
is
to
maybe
say
to
provide
a
forum
for
discussion
and
provide
recommendations
prior
to
finalizing
traffic
studies
and
reports,
because
I
would
still
allow
the
committee
to
to
have
a
meaningful
contribution.
E
That
would
be
the
first
one
and
then
the
second
one
is
section
7.08.040
d,
that's
page
4
or
132
in
the
packet,
and
I
really
don't
know
so.
This
is
really
a
question
and
we
have
some
former
committee
members
here,
but
should
we
also
broaden
it
to
recommendations,
not
just
the
city
council,
but
maybe
to
the
planning,
commission
or
even
park
and
rec?
E
Given
that
you
know,
we've
got
the
rack
being
built,
that's
going
to
be
a
busy
very
busy
street
at
some
point
and
then
the
planning
commission,
with
all
these
projects
coming.
Would
it
make
sense
to
broaden
it.
It
doesn't
mean
that
that's
going
to
be
the
process,
but
just
to
allow
for
that
possibility
of
the
committee
making
recommendations
to
either
commission
or
the
full
city
council.
E
So
that's
a
suggestion.
The
third
one
is
section
7.08
or
0.040
duties,
and
this
is
page
4
to
5
or
132
to
133,
and
I
didn't
know
if
that
last
section,
8
kind
of
catch-all
includes
speed
bumps.
E
E
Oh,
I
just
had
a
question,
and
this
one
I
think
marky
can
probably
answer
today-
is
that
page
138
around
speed
limits
section
7.12110?
There
was
an
addition
to
say
that
the
city
traffic
engineer
and
then
it
added
in
conjunction
with
the
police
department,
and
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
addition
I
just
wanted.
E
The
question
really
is
more
from
a
practical
perspective:
does
that
cause
any
administrative
slowdown
or
just
because
I
know
the
police
department
is
also
at
capacity,
so
that
was
my
only
question
there
and
then
should
I
stop
her
right
now.
D
I
think
we
can,
I
can
address-
or
at
least
make
some
comments
about
all
of
those,
if
you
don't
mind
and
then
yeah
council
member
comments
on
those.
So
just
on
the
very
last
one
I
can
explain.
We
amended
that
in
collaboration
with
the
police
department
and
at
their
suggestion,
because
that's
actually
the
process
that
occurs
now
so
they
work
collaboratively
with
the
public
works
department
to
do
those
feed
surveys.
So
that
was
the
reason
for
that.
D
I'm
happy
to
answer
the
other
questions
or
at
least
provide
a
little
bit
of
information
about
them
so
for
going
backwards
about
the
speed
bumps,
so
I'll
defer,
maybe
to
the
public
works
department,
but
traffic
control
does
does
include
speed
bumps.
I
believe
I
there's
it's
a
broad,
certainly
a
broad
enough
category
to
include
any
sort
of
traffic
control
device
and
those
are
covered
in
the
manual
for
uniform
traffic
control
devices
that
I
think
we
talked
about,
and
I
see
that
our
city
public
works
interim
public
works
director
is
on
the
line.
J
Well,
I
might
need
to
go
get
a
traffic
engineering
degree.
I
believe
you
know
I
I'm
a
bit
hesitant
to
misspeak
as
well.
So
I
may
need
to
ask
her
a
traffic
engineer,
but
our
traffic
calming
program
does
include
speed,
humps
and
I'm
unclear
whether
it's
in
the
california
municipal,
the
mutcd
uniform
transportation
guide.
So
that
is
something
I
may
need
to
follow
up
on.
E
I
just
wanted
to
make
this
a
suggestion
since
we're
making
these
changes
now,
if,
if
it's
the
the
right
place,
if
it's
not
the
right
place,
then
that's,
I
understand.
D
My
thought
would
be
we
can
check
with
the
traffic
engineer
and
if
it's
covered
to
not
put
it
in
because
then
somebody
would
wonder
why
didn't
you
put
the
other
27
things
in
that
you
know
are
also
covered,
but
if,
for
some
reason
it's
not,
we
can
consider
that
for
the
for
the
next
for
the
adoption,
and
then
do
you
mind
going
back
briefly
to
the
tsbc
duties.
I
do
have
just
a
couple
of
brief
comments
about
that
at
least
recommendations.
D
So
the
suggestion
to
make
recommendations
to
other
boards
and
commissions
that
are
not
deciding
bodies.
I
guess
I
would
offhand
recommend
against
that.
I
think,
for
a
couple
of
reasons,
I
think
it's
important
to
have
the
shortest
path
of
decision
making.
Then
I'm
sort
of
talking
from
a
risk
perspective.
D
If
you
have
these
sorts
of
decisions
going
through
multiple
bodies
in
the
city,
then
I
think
you
you
set
up
a
situation
in
which
the
members,
the
volunteer,
lay
people,
members
of
those
bodies,
are
are
subject
to
being
deposed
and
subject
to
being
asked.
Well.
Why
did
you
do
this?
And
what
about
this?
And
what
about
that?
D
It
just
really
muddies
the
record
tremendously
it's
much
clearer
to
have
a
recommending
body
like
the
tspc
that
has
expert
staff
and
consultants
making
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
because
ultimately,
the
city
council
is
the
one
that
that
needs
to
make
that
decision
and
that
that
decides
now.
There's
nothing
stopping
the
staff,
for
example,
to
provide
information
to
the
other
bodies
about
the
recommendations
of
the
tsbc,
and
I
think
they
they
often
do
that
when
it's
appropriate.
So
that
would
be
my
thought
about
that
one.
D
As
for
the
first
one,
I
actually
liked
your
suggestion,
and
I
would
only
reword
it
very
slightly
to
say
to
provide
a
forum
for
discussion
and
provide
recommendations
regarding
traffic
studies
and
reports,
and
maybe
that
was
what
you
said,
but
you
might
have
had
another
word
in
there.
But
but
I
think
that's
perfectly
fine
and
I
don't
think,
creates
a
a
risk
mitigation
situation
or
does
anything
that
you
know
is
against
the
purpose
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here.
So.
E
Yeah,
I
think
the
only
that
what
I
had
said
was
that
would
provide
the
recommendation
prior
to
finalizing,
so
that
would
that
would
make
sure
that
we
got
the
committee's
voice
in
before.
There
was
anything
final
going
to
the
commission
or
the
council,
which
I
still
think
I
still
feel
like.
We
should
say
that
because
it
would
require
the
committee
to
look
through-
and
this
is
the
committee
that
the
council
has
determined
you
know-
should
be
providing
recommendations
on
this
exam.
These
exact
kinds
of
studies
and
reports.
D
I'll
defer
to
the
city
council
on
it,
I
think
that's
a
policy
decision
about
whether
you
want
the
tsbc
to
be
making
recommendations
before
any
traffic
studies
are
done
about
anything.
I
think
the
language
before
I
think
was
may
be
concerning,
which
is
why
I
recommended
what
I
did,
but
I
think
it's
a
policy
decision
for
the
city
council
or
to
defer
that
to
a
later
time,.
A
H
A
On
hold
on,
I
believe,
mark
you
answered
the
council
members
questions.
Was
there
additional
questions?
Councilmember
mason
did
you
want
to
keep
going
or
tom?
I'm
sorry,
councilmember
hamilton
it.
H
Was
on
that
it
was
on
that
exact
topic.
I
mean
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Is
that
if
you
don't
mind
or
of
the
tspc
we
didn't
you
know,
obviously
we
did
not
pre-approve
and
pre-direct
all
traffic
studies.
However,
you
know,
usually
we
would
see
the
results
of
a
traffic
study
as
the
first
time.
That
would
be
there
would
be
an
item,
but
there
had
been
there
had
been
times
when
we
felt
that
the
the
traffic
study
was
not
comprehensive
enough.
H
A
E
Yeah
yeah-
and
I
just
wanted
to
also
be
clear
that
the
my
comment
about
adding
the
planning,
commission,
recreation
parks
and
rec
wasn't
to
say
that
they
must
go
through
that
chain,
but
just
to
allow
that
that
option
there
should
there
be
that
opportunity
to
you
know,
come
come
before
the
committee.
E
E
7.16.150,
this
is
the
section
around
parking
in
excess
of
the
time
limit
prohibited,
and
it's
page
16
of
you
know
that
particular
report
or
page
144,
and
I'm
just
wondering
that,
should
we
be
clear
about
the
consequences
of
staying
longer
than
the
curb
markings
you
know
are
these
towed
and
when
are
they
towed
and
how
you
know
what's
up?
What's
that
process
look
like
and
then
I
just
have
three
more
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
finish,
and
then
chapter
7.18.
E
This
is
the
residential
permanent
parking
and
I
don't
think
this
one's
going
to
be
answered
tonight.
I
just
wanted
to
throw
out
a
suggestion
around
this,
which
is
really
to
reflect
on
whether
we
are
having
anybody
using
this
residential
parking
permit
program
and
understanding.
This
is
not
agendized
tonight,
but
a
suggestion
might
be
a
an
ad
hoc
committee
to
determine
whether
this
is
has
really
been
effective
and
whether
it's
the
best
solution
to
what
we're
trying
to
what.
E
What
are
we
trying
to
resolve
and
has
this
been
a
solution
that
has
worked
so
far
and
then
the
next
one
is
at
7.20.02
the
decrease
of
maximum
speed
limits.
I
would
suggest-
and
this
is
page
25
or
153.-
I
would
suggest-
adding
penningham
white
on
there
right
off
the
freeway.
E
I
don't
I
don't
know
how
these
streets
have
all
been
designated,
who
studied
them,
but
people
get
off
the
freeway
and
just
or
get
on
the
freeway
and
just
speed
down
that
street.
It's
really
dangerous.
E
The
next
one
is
section
7.24.050,
and
this
is
page
28
or
156,
and
this
is
the
regular
parking
of
other
large
vehicles
and
same
question
as
before.
What
is
the
enforcement
method,
and
should
we
should
we
have
that
in
you
know
in
the
in
that
particular
section,
and
I
believe
that
is
it.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
E
A
City
attorney:
are
you
able
to
take
on
those
please.
D
Sure,
actually,
I
I
think
chief,
the
police
chief,
would
probably
be
the
best
person
to
answer
the
two
enforcement
questions
that
council
member
mason
raised.
So
maybe,
if
he's
available,
he
could
pop
on.
D
All
right,
oh-
and
he
might
also
be
able
to
have
an
answer
to
why?
Don't
we
include
cunningham
on
the
list?
I
think
that
those
are
going
to
require
a
speed
survey
to
include
them,
and
so
I
don't
think
we
can
include
them
now
because
there's
not
a
speed
survey,
but
if
there
were
one
then
that
would
be
an
event
involved.
I
can
let
him
answer
that,
and
I
see
that
he's
popping
on
right
now.
A
Chief
johansen,
I
don't
know
if
if
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
the
questions
reposed
or
or
are
you
okay.
B
E
D
M
D
No,
I
I
understand
the
question
now
so
I
I
think
I
think
the
answer
is
probably
not
you
know.
These
are
all
enforceable
through
a
variety
of
means
that
the
fines
differ.
There's
a
fine
schedule,
that's
adopted
periodically
and
I
generally
recommend
not
putting
that
in
the
ordinance
because
then
otherwise,
every
time
the
penalty
or
the
enforcement
mechanism
changes,
you've
got
to
remember
to
go
back
and
amend
the
ordinance.
M
No,
my
position
would
be
the
same.
I
think
that
it's,
it's
probably
not
at
least
in
my
own
opinion,
wise
to
include
enforcement
language,
especially
procedural
type
language,
about
how
enforcement
occurs
within
the
ordinance
itself,
because
it
changes
from
time
to
time
based
not
only
upon
the
law
but
based
upon
department,
capabilities
and
needs.
E
So
then,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
know
so,
for
example,
this
section
716
150
the
parking
in
excess
of
time
limits?
How
do
how
do
we
know
that
the
enforcement
mechanism
is
being
applied?
E
I
guess
they're
out
so,
for
example,
how
do
we
know
that
in
one
area
cars
may
get
towed
in
another
area
they
may
not
get
towed,
or
does
it
just
have
to
do
with
capacity
and
they're
all
the
same?
Does
it
have
to
do
with
the
day
if
it's
a
holiday
versus
non-holiday,
because
this
is
a
common?
I
think
this
is
a
pretty
common
complaint.
Is
around
people
who
stay
past
the
time
frame
that
they're
supposed
to
be
parked
in
any
given.
M
M
If
the
question,
however,
is
more
pertaining
to
whether
or
not
this
code
should
stipulate
exactly
where
enforcement
should
or
should
not
occur,
I
would
defer
to
the
city
attorney
and
to
counsel
for
that.
I
think
that
that's
a
different
question
than
if
we're
looking
for
hey,
where
is
it
actually
occurring
versus
where,
where
should
it
be
legally
permitted
to
occur?.
E
I
think
it's
I
don't
mean
to
be
confusing,
but
I
think
it's
so,
for
example,
I'll
just
give
an
example.
So
if
someone
stays
in
a
in
a
space,
that's
designated
no
more
than
72
hours
and
they've
now
been
there.
I
don't
know
85
hours
right.
E
What
is
the
enforcement
mechanism
and
how
does
somebody
know
who's
the
owner
of
the
car
that
their
car
might
be
towed,
and
I
know-
and
I
know
in
some
locations
not
just
in
san
bruno-
but
you
know,
officers
will
go
kind
of
above
and
beyond
knock
on
doors.
Is
this
your
car?
We
don't
want
to
tow
it,
the
toe's
very
expensive.
E
A
That's
that's
a
gracious
customer
service
and
a
nice
thing,
and
I
I
have
heard
that
folks
have
done
that,
but
I
think
it's
very
situational
and
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
chief
is
you're
kind
of
wanting
to
quantify
verbatim,
which
then
kind
of
doesn't
because
every
scenario
is
a
little
different.
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say
my
long
way
of
saying
it,
but
anyway.
E
Again,
just
to
be
clear,
not
not
the
emergency
situation,
I
would
hope
the
city
would
take
that
risk
and
say
we
get
into
the
car
if
someone's
life
is
in
danger.
I
think
it's
more
the
common
question:
we've
got
all
these
people
who
are
taking
a
flight
out
and
they're
parking
in
front
of
my
house
and
they're
surpassing
the
time
frame.
We've
got
people
staying
at
airbnbs
that
are
renting
a
house
nearby.
E
They
are
not
moving
their
car,
I
mean
those
are
more
common
and
more
typical,
and
so
when
I
hear
the
frustrations
it's
you
want
to
go,
look
at
the
ordinance
and
say
well,
the
ordinance
says
it's,
you
know
72
hours,
and
so
what
happens
after
72
hours,
and
so
I
think
it's
like
can.
What
is
the
clarity
given
to
the
public
and
to
staff
to
say
this
is
and
and
to
the
police
department
too
to
say
this
is
what
we
need
to
be
able
to
do
our
jobs.
How
can
we
help
with
that?
A
Yeah
and
now
now
I
understand
what
you're
trying
to
say:
you're
talking
about
a
seven
to
two
hour,
people
that
are
not
happy
with
folks
that
are
parked
within
their
neighborhoods
streets
and
taking
up
parking,
whether
they're,
an
sfo
or
whether,
whatever
they're
doing-
and
I
know,
there's
procedure
to
that
and
process.
And
maybe
even
our
attorney
can
chime
in
at
this
point.
Thanks
for
that
that
helps
clear
up
what
you're
trying
to
go
to.
M
Yeah,
I
think
that
for
what
it's
worth,
I
better
understand
the
question
now
and
really
it's
it's
quite
specific,
actually
to
72-hour
ordinance
because
other
time
parking
ordinances
are
are
very
different
in
nature.
When
you
talk
about
a
five-hour
parking
lot,
for
example,
or
a
two-hour
spot
downtown,
those
are
very
different
in
terms
of
the
enforcement
posture
and
the
procedure
than
the
72-hour
violations,
so
the
the
72-hour
violation
I
can
just
tell
you
in
practice-
is
only
enforced
at
this
point
in
time
on
a
complaint
basis.
M
That
is
largely
a
because
that's
how
most
cities
do
it.
The
the
spirit
of
the
72-hour
ordinance
is
to
avoid
abandoning
vehicles
in
neighborhoods
and
to
give
the
police
department
the
teeth
to
remove
those
vehicles
in
order
to
keep
from
the
blight
in
the
community,
and
so
we
respond
to
them
on
a
complaint
basis.
M
There
is
a
fairly
definitive
procedure
for
that
in
terms
of
what
we
do
each
time
that
happens,
because
we
can't
just
take
a
resident's
word
for
it
that
a
vehicle
has
been
there
for
72
hours
once
they
tell
us,
it's
been
there
72
hours.
We
then,
by
law,
have
to
complete
some
procedural
steps
to
ensure
that
it
has
in
fact
been
there
for
72
hours
before
we
can
complete
a
tow
and
that
it
doesn't
move
at
least
a
tenth
of
a
mile
during
that
time
frame.
M
M
We
come
back
and
check
on
it
periodically
to
ensure
that
it
goes
at
least
72
hours
from
then
and
then
we'll
come
back
out
and
ticket
and
or
tow
the
vehicle,
depending
upon
the
circumstances.
Now,
as
far
as
knocking
on
doors,
that
is
our
typical
procedure,
not
because
it's
required
by
statute,
but
because
that's
the
kind
of
police
department
we
are
if
the
vehicle
comes
back,
registered
to
a
local
resident,
because
again,
the
spirit
of
this
ordinance
being
there
to
avoid
abandoned
vehicles.
M
Oftentimes
these
vehicles
are
called
in
simply
because
a
resident
doesn't
like
that.
A
neighbor
has
parked
in
front
of
their
house
instead
of
in
front
of
their
own
home,
and
so
rather
than
engage
in
the
time
requirements.
You
know
that
that
exists
in
order
to
go
and
mark
the
tires
and
issue
the
warning
notice
and
enter
it
into
the
computer
system
and
go
back
out
and
check
it.
We
will
often
knock
on
that
residence
door.
Say
hey.
You
know,
we've
got
some
complaints
about
your
vehicle,
not
moving
in
72
hours.
M
Can
you
please
make
sure
that
you
do
so
in
most
cases
they
agree
to
just
do
so
immediately
and
that
circumvents
the
need
to
continue
any
further
in
that
process.
Again,
my
position
would
be
that
there
is
nowhere
to
my
knowledge,
anywhere
in
penal
code,
vehicle
code,
health
and
safety
code,
or
typically,
even
in
a
municipal
code.
D
Right,
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
think
that
those
procedures
are
often
dependent,
as
the
chief
indicated
on
resources
on
priorities.
Those
priorities
can
change.
It's
just
not
a
good
idea
to
either
hamstring
the
police
department
and
require
them
to
do
things
that
now
a
different
city
council
might
wish
that
they
not
do,
or
vice
versa.
D
So
the
enforcement
of
these
ordinances
is
left
to
the
policy
making
decisions
of
the
city
council
based
on
resources
and
the
discretion
of
the
police
department,
and
if,
if
you,
the
city
council
would
like
to
direct
something
different,
then
you're
certainly
free
to
do
that,
but
I
generally
don't
recommend
that
that
be
spelled
out
in
the
ordinance
and
it's
not
really
anywhere
spelled
out
in
any
of
our
ordinances.
For
that
reason,.
E
So
I
guess
that
would
I
would
respond
to
that.
Thank
you.
That
was
helpful
would
be
that
you
know
we're
in
the
policy
process
right
now,
and
this
is
a
very
common
complaint.
E
So
if
there
is
a
recommendation
by
the
police
department
who's
providing
the
citations
to
the
council
to
make
adjustments
or
tweaks,
then
then
I
would
definitely.
You
know
recommend
that
the
council
take
a
look
at
those,
because
you
know
if
there's
anything,
that
we
can
do
to
mitigate
this
problem
by
assisting
you
with
policy,
then
that's
really
our
place
and
that's
where
I
think
we
can
help
the
most.
E
A
Attorney
and
city
and
chief,
I'm
sorry,
city,
chief
and
city
attorney,
my
my
understanding
and
please
for
for
council
and
myself
when
you
are
looking
at
these
titles
and
sometimes
you
have
to
go
with
the
pace
of
other
departments,
because
they're
interwoven
into
the
action
I.e
title
seven
is
not
do
not
meet
with
other
department
heads
or
in
this
case
the
police
chief
in
regards
to
reviewing
thoughts,
ideas,
cleanup
language,
etc.
D
D
I
would
actually
say
that
if
there
is
going
to
be
a
policy
discussion
about
enforcement
of
ordinances,
that
that's
actually
not
a
discussion
about
the
ordinance,
it's
a
discussion
about
enforcement
and
I
think
that's
really,
as
I
think,
councilmember
mason
you
indicated-
might
be
best
left
for
for
a
different
time,
because
the
the
ordinance
itself
doesn't
specify
you
know
how
exactly
how
it's
enforced
for
it
for
reasons
that
we
discuss.
D
So
if
the
council
does
want
to
give
that
that
policy
direction,
I
would
say
great,
but
not,
but
not
in
the
ordinance
that
can
be
done
separately
by
resolution.
E
Okay,
so
so
when
I
I
asked,
because
when
I
read
it,
I
didn't
see
another
section
and
as
the
policy
board,
we
obviously
can
give
direction
to
create
a
section
and
really
what
I'm
asking
for
is
if
we
did
want
to
think
outside
the
box
and
try
to
identify
a
way
to
mitigate
the
complaints
that
we're
getting
by
just
kind
of
thinking
differently
about
this
is:
is
there
something
more
that
we
can
do
within
the
policy
within
the
ordinance
within
our
powers
that
can
mitigate
that,
and-
and
I
appreciate
that
you
know-
departments
meet
my
experience.
E
I
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
The
city
attorney
said
most
of
what
I
was
gonna
say,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify.
If
we're
talking
about
enforcement
of
the
72-hour
rule,
I
would
actually
say
that
that's
not
policy,
it's
actually
more
operations
and
the
solutions
to
that
could
be
made
right.
I
One
could
be
a
operational
discussion
and
a
funding
discussion
about
not
having
police
officers
respond
to
those
calls,
but
instead
of
setting
up
a
proactive,
72-hour
enforcement
division
where
you
may
have
csos
that
have
vehicles
with
license
plate,
readers
that
drive
around
the
city
snapping
license
plates
with
technology
that
entails.
If
the
vehicle
moves
and.
I
The
policy
clear
is
clear
and
the
enforcement
tools
are
there.
Well,
I
think
this
discussion
would
really
be
about
is
if,
if
there's
a
desire
to
have
a
different
operational
model
about
how
the
72-hour
rule
is
enforced,
what
is
that?
What
does
that
cost?
I
What
level
of
positions
you
know
it
doesn't
have
to
be
an
officer,
and
we
we
know
that
we're
under
resourced
on
officers
and
our
officers,
but
either
now
or
if
we
had
a
few
more,
would
be
responding
to
radio
calls
and
that,
and
that
would
always
take
more
priority
than
doing
the
proactive,
72-hour
enforcement.
So
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
it's
actually,
I
think,
not
a
policy
conversation,
but
more
of
an
operational
and
budgetary
conversation.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
we'll
go
to
the
vice
mayor
in
any
comments
or
questions
you
have
please.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
I
did
want
to
chime
in
a
little
bit
on
this
particular
matter
of
the
72
hours
and
councilwoman
mason
did
bring
up,
which
would
be
for
another
time
the
residential
parking
commit
program.
G
It's
probably
time
for
for
some
discussion
and
review
of
that
being
also,
things
calmed
down
quite
a
bit
when,
when
kobit
was
going
on,
but
traffic
traffic's,
increasing
and
and
airports
are
running,
and
yes,
I've
received
additional
complaints
about
parking,
airport,
parkers
and
so
forth,
but
I
I
I
think
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that
with
the
city
manager
and
the
knowledge
that
we
are
extremely
busy,
and
this
wasn't
a
strategic
initiative.
G
How
do
we
work
around
that
right?
So
perhaps
a
we
can
ask
for
an
ad
hoc
committee
at
a
later
time
being
that
this
business
here
is
to
proceed
and
and
get
these
revisions
done.
I'm
in
favor
of
that
my
new
question
and
the
city
attorney
did
mention.
If
the,
if
the
youtube
drivers,
we
can
require
them
to
get
a
business
license
if
they
reside
in
our
city,
then
why
wouldn't
we
do
that?
G
And
if
we
got
50
compliance,
then
that
was
50
of
the
revenue
we're
not
going
to
actively
target
people
that
don't
get
business
licenses?
At
least
I
don't
think
we
we
would
so
that's
my
question
for
the
city
attorney.
If
we
can
legally
require
that
it,
then
why
wouldn't
we.
D
A
H
So,
just
a
a
couple
of
quick
comments
on
the
the
72-hour
thing,
the
we
asked
this
question
a
lot
throughout
my
whole
time
on
the
tspc
and
then
again
when
we
were
on
the
the
residential
parking
permit
subcommittee,
because,
as
council
member
mason
said,
it
is
a
very,
very
common
complaint
that
people
make
that
that
folks
are
leaving
their
cars
and
and
inappropriately
in
the
neighborhood.
H
The
the
typical
use
case
of
someone
you
know
leaving
their
car
and
going
to
the
airport,
because
even
if
they
get
a
ticket,
it's
still
going
to
be
cheaper
than
paying
airport
parking
that
still
exists,
and
we
we
asked
the
city
attorney
on,
I
believe,
more
than
one
occasion,
if
there's
any
way
to
change
the
ordinances,
but
I
think
I
think
the
city
attorney
can
confirm,
I
think
we're
kind
of
hamstrung
by
state
law.
H
You
know
for
a
practical
standpoint,
the
72-hour
rule
the
way
that
it
gets
the
way
that
it
gets
enforced
and
again
we're
following
the
law
and
that's
why
it
gets
enforced.
This
way
is
that
I
look
out
my
window.
I
see
a
car
sitting.
There
that's
been
there
for
three
days.
I
call
they
come
and
chalk
it.
They
wait
three
more
days
and
then
then
they'll
get
a
ticket.
So
it's
there
for
six
or
up
to
six,
but
it's
unfortunate,
but
I
don't
know
what
what
we
can
do
together
to
get
around
it.
H
If
there
was
a
recommendation
that
we
could
make
to
the
or
to
the
ordinance
to
give
the
the
the
police
more
teeth
to
be
able
to
enforce
those
types
of
things,
I'd
be
all
for
it,
and
I
just
I
would
echo
council
member
mason's
suggestion
that
we
think
out
of
the
box
if
possible.
I
understand
if
it's
we're
completely
hamstrung,
but
it
was
something
that
I
think
we
should.
We
should
keep
our
minds
open
to
because
it
is
a
big
problem.
D
The
the
only
other
thing
I
would
add
is,
I
think,
as
I've
indicated
before
in
in
memos
and
other
open
sessions,
the
the
72-hour
you
know
the
to
toe
the
car
for
a
72-hour
violation
is
currently
high
on
the
list
of
both
the
legislature
and
the
courts
for
one
of
those
restrictions
that
cities
should
not
be
aggressively
enforcing.
D
You
know.
We've
talked
about
this
extensively
before.
Unfortunately,
this
is
not
the
you
know.
The
legislature
is
busy
trying
to
find
ways
to
stop
cities
from
enforcing
this,
because
they
believe
that
towing
these
vehicles
represents
a
forfeiture
to
people
of
fewer
economic
means
that
it's
extremely
expensive
to
get
your
car
out
of
the
tow
yard.
You
lose
your
car
for
days.
If
not
weeks,
people
can't
go
to
work,
they
can't
go
to
the
doctors
anyway.
D
There's
a
whole
host
of
reasons
that
make
it
very
challenging
to
even
provide
those
additional
tools
beyond
the
sorts
of
operational
decisions
to
say,
let's
just
make
sure
that
we're
catching
more
of
the
violators
in
the
way
that
we
catch
them
now,
as
opposed
to
coming
up
with
some
different,
totally
different
mechanism
to
to
enforce
a
law
which
both
the
courts
and
the
legislature
are
saying.
Really,
cities
should
not
be
aggressively
enforcing.
For
all
those
reasons.
A
C
You
so
yeah
a
couple
of
we've
been
talking
about
a
lot
of
different
things
and-
and
I
think
we
heard
both
from
the
city
manager
and
from
the
city
attorney,
that
any
discussions
on
enforcement
are
strictly
operational
issues
and
those
are
clearly
not
our
purview,
and
I
do
believe
that
this
review
has
shown
that
you
know
there
are
areas
that
needed
adjustment,
the
72-hour
rule,
I
I
do
believe
as
council
member
hamilton
alluded
to
pretty
much
bumps
up
against
the
limits
that
we
have
that
are
set
by
the
state
and-
and
we
definitely
while
I
agree
it
is
a
problem,
and
it
is
something
I
hear
about
a
lot.
C
It's
not
something
that
we
want
to
try
to
legislate
and
also
directing
the
police
department
on
how
to
enforce,
or
I
I
think
that
would
be
also
a
dangerous
position
for
us
to
try
to
take
at
this
time
and
within
all
that
also,
you
know
we
alluded
to
what's
happened
with
the
residential
parking
permit
program
and
that
really
was
intended
to
be
the
solution
to
getting
us
past.
Just
the
72-hour
rule
and
having
people
call
in
and
neighborhoods
that
were
severely
impacted
would
have
that
tool
available
to
them.
C
You
know,
currently,
I'm
I'm
working
two
days
a
week
in
the
office
and
the
rest
of
the
days
I'm
at
home.
My
car
sits
in
front
of
my
house
four
days
a
week
and
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
anyone
coming
around
and
scanning
my
license
plate
and
then
giving
me
a
ticket,
because
you
know
the
car's
sitting
there
and
I
don't
think
anyone
in
the
city
would
really
appreciate
that
so
to
create
a
worse
problem
for
our
residents
to
try
to
alleviate
another
one.
I
don't
think
is
the
right
approach.
C
C
Maybe
it
would
be
a
project
that
we
could
send
back
to
tspc
and
have
them
look
into
that
and
take
take
some
somewhat
of
a
a
lead
in
in
doing
that
project
and
sort
of
not
put
so
much
bonus
on
on
staff,
but
take
it
on
as
a
project
that
the
the
committee
members
could
do
and
in
looking
at
the
changes
that
we're
proposing
now,
I
think
that
there
were
some
tightening
down
of
you
know
what
the
roles
and
responsibilities
are.
It
doesn't
look
like.
C
We
are
really
allowing
any
latitude
for
the
council
to
assign
projects
to
that
committee.
C
So
that's
something
that,
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
create
that
opportunity
for
us
to
give
the
com
the
committee
members
interesting
work
to
do.
I
think
it
may
resolve
some
of
the
concern
that
I've
heard
from
committee
members
in
terms
of
they
feel
that
it's
too
prescribed
and
they
don't
feel
that
their
talents
are
being
fully
utilized.
C
So
I
believe
that
that
would
be
one
way
to
make
their
assignment,
perhaps
a
little
more
fruitful
or
rewarding.
C
But
at
the
same
time
I
do
agree
that
we
do
have
to
be
very
careful
in
what
we
do
allow
them
to
do,
because
if
they
were
to
just
make
recommendations
willy-nilly
and
those
would
give
us
to
the
council
without
ever
being
reviewed
by
staff
or
or
being
vetted
that
they
somehow
concur
with
with
state
law
or
our
own
ordinances,
that
that
would
probably
not
be
the
best
the
best
outcome.
So
in
summary,
I
know
I
kind
of
went
around
in
circles
there,
but
yeah.
C
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
tweak
anything
around
the
72-hour
rule.
I
believe
that
it
it
is
about,
as
far
as
we
can
go
in
terms
of
what
we're
prescribing
in
an
ordinance,
but
I
do
believe
that
the
residential
parking
permit
could
be
a
potential
solution
to
that
that
we
need
to
reinvestigate
and
depending
on
where
it
falls
on
the
priority
list.
C
I
don't
know
if
it's
something
that
we
will
have
to
bring
back
as
a
strategic
initiative,
but
I
think
that
that
has
a
potential
of
being
a
real
solution
to
this
problem.
We
have
with
cars
that
are
loitering
in
impacted,
neighborhoods.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
councilmember
salazar's
comment
and
suggestion
that
we
potentially
enveloped
this
as
a
project
for
the
tspc
to
look
at.
We
have
talked
about
through
strategic
initiatives
under
the
strong
governance
item,
that
one
of
the
committees
that
we
would
look
at
sort
of
redefining
and
taking
a
more
holistic
look
at
the
work
they
do
is
tstc
and-
and
certainly
this
is
an
effort
in
a
conversation
that
fits
in
line
with
the
core
goals
of
tsbc.
I
I
So
absolutely
I
think
we
can
look
at
that
when
we
talk
about
strategic
initiatives,
but
I
also
wanted
to
just
make
a
sort
of
balcony
level
comment,
because
my
mind
is
a
little
foggy
almost
two
years
ago
when
we
talked
about
the
residential
permit
parking
program,
but
I'm
reminded
that
staff
did
recommend
and
say
that
that
program
is
likely
not
the
solution
to
our
parking
challenges
and
even
if
it
was
a
mandatory
residential
parking
program.
I
The
core
issue
is
that
in
some
parts
of
our
community
they're
densely
populated
the
car
ownership
rate
is
high,
and
even
if
we
limited
it
to
one
vehicle
per
one
park,
street
parking
permit
per
unit.
There
would
still
be
too
many
cars
on
a
per
block
basis.
I
And
so
our
this
conversation
about
72
hour,
rule
enforcement,
as
well
as
the
residential
parking
program,
really
ties
back
to
that
core
issue,
which
is
the
vehicle
ownership
rates
in
parts
of
our
community,
are
higher
than
what
the
streets
and
the
private
off-street
parking
can
handle
and
that's
a
sort
of
larger
envelope
conversation
and
while
the
residential
parking
permit
was
lifted
up
as
one
tool.
I
It
was
the
recommendation
of
the
traffic
engineer
and
the
staff
at
that
time
that
that
would
likely
not
be
the
solution
and
there
there
may
be
a
challenge
with
residents
raising
their
hand
to
to
elect
to
be
into
that
system,
given
the
restrictions
that
it
would
place
on
them
for
parking
on
the
street,
and
so
I
do
think
that
this
is
sort
of
a
classic
issue
that
that
cities
like
ours
deal
with.
I
And
you
know
some
of
the
most
successful
are
san
francisco,
that
put
so
many
restrictions
on
owning
a
car
that
people
stop
owning
as
many
cars
as
they
do.
But
but
it's
not
a
it's,
not
an
easy
problem
to
solve
and
absolutely
sort
of
enveloping
it
as
a
larger
project
that
does
have
staff
or
contract
traffic
engineer
staff
tied
to
it
is
the
way
to
address
it.
C
My
hand
is
back
up,
thank
you,
sir,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
add
on
that.
I
I
agree
that
it's
not
a
silver
bullet
and
it's
not
going
to
solve
every
problem,
but
the
majority
of
the
complaints
I
hear
that
pertain
to
having
cars
towed
or
removed
after
72
hours
is
generally
related
to
either
ride,
share
or
people
that
are
going
on
trips
and
leaving
their
cars
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
believe
that
a
parking
permit
program
would
address
that.
It's
not
gonna.
C
C
But
I
do
believe
that
there
are
situations
where,
if,
if
we
know
that
there
are
several
residents
that
are
complaining,
are
we
seeing
habitual,
towing
or
habitual
extended
parking
in
areas
where
the
complaints
are
coming
in
that
there
could
be
a
coordinated
outreach
effort
to
those
neighborhoods
to
inform
them
of
the
process,
and
then
also
you
know
re-looking
at
that
process,
so
that
it's
not
so
onerous
for
people
to
to
implement
it.
C
I
mean
it
could
have
a
benefit
if
we're
wasting
a
lot
of
our
staff
time
in
you
know
the
police
department
going
out
there
to
tow
vehicles,
there's
a
benefit
to
us
having
a
program
where
you
know
we
we
can
get
rid
of
a
lot
of
those
and
a
lot
of
times.
A
posted
sign
is
enough
to
keep
people
out
of
it
and
when
we
do
have
to
tow,
then
it's
not
going
to
require
72
hours
like
it
does
now.
C
So
I
do
think,
there's
there's
potential
there
and
we
shouldn't
just
cast
it
aside
so
quickly.
A
Yeah
I'm
about
to
call
on
councilman
mason,
but
there
was
the
max
speed
limit
on
cunningham
was
asked
and
and
to
my
knowledge,
was
not
responded
to
thus
far.
E
Thank
everyone
for
the
discussion
it
is.
I
did
want
to
say
I,
the
idea
of
giving
committees
just
more
leeway
in
bringing
up
topics.
I
thought
we
were
going
to
discuss
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
as
part
of
the
strong
governance,
because
I
know
it's
come
up
a
couple
of
times
just
with
committees
across
the
board,
and
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
the
attorney
zepharon's
comment
about
the
conversation
right
now
with
courts
around
ensuring
that
marginalized
populations
are
not
being
adversely
impacted.
E
That
is
very,
very
true,
and
I
think
that
my
concern
here
is
that
anecdotally,
when
you
drive
around
the
city,
it's
our
marginalized
populations
who
are
not
able
to
park
in
front
of
their
homes
and
it's
because
of
people
that
are
parking
going
to
the
airport
for
being
able
to
afford
to
take
trips,
or
maybe
they
have
whatever
reason
they're
at
the
airport
or
working
at
the
airport.
So
I
think
that
in
our
case,
it's
the
opposite.
Where
we
have,
you
know
apartment
buildings
where
people
cannot
find
parkings.
E
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
I
think
here
the
reason
I
am
being
more
persistent
about
this
is
because
I
do
believe
it's
in
our
more
marginalized
population
areas
that
this
is
impacting
households
who
cannot
park
to
go
home
after
probably
a
hard
day
of
work,
because
people
are
parking
there
to
go
to
the
airport,
and
so
how
do
we
get
past
this?
E
I
will
refer
to
seattle.
Seattle
does
have
a
72
hour
ordinance
around
parking.
They
clearly
identify
that
that
or
that
the
72
hours
can
change
at
any
time
to
24
hours.
They
identify
that
if
you're
gonna
park
and
you're
in
an
in
this
area,
you
might
want
to
leave
your
keys
with
somebody
in
the
neighborhood
in
case
your
car
has
to
be
moved.
E
So
as
far
as
the
step-by-step
enforcement.
That,
I
would
agree,
is
a
standard
operating
procedure,
but
whether
we
can
be
more
clear
around
what
that
72
hours
means
and
how
we
can
make
sure
that
we
really
provide
the
chief
and
the
police
department
with
the
resources
they
need
to
enforce.
Whatever
stronger
72-hour
ordinance,
we
can
create
that's
really
where
I
want
to
be
more
persistent
and
more
vocal,
because
we,
we
do
clearly
have
a
problem
in
the
areas
where
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
cars.
E
A
The
police
chief
has
never
been
a
very
shy
person
to
you
know
if,
if,
if
council
wants
to
give
direction
and
make
policy
at
another
appropriate
time,
I'm
sure
the
chief
would
be
more
than
happy
to
let
let
it
be
known
of
the
resources
that
it
would
adequately
take,
because
if
you
set
an
expectation,
you
need
to
be
able
to
meet
it
sometimes
meeting
those
are
are
not
not
easy
and
not
cheap,
and
also,
as
far
as
at
another
time
again
with
the
residential
permit,
ad
hoc
or
just
review
it.
A
It
is
fine,
but
what
you
do
find
and
I've
seen
it
watch
neighbors
hate
it
over
bayshore
circle.
When
I
was
at
the
park
having
a
group
meeting
one
wanted
it
and
one
didn't
want
it,
and
it
was
based
because
of
the
number
of
cars.
If
you
only
could
have
one
or
two
permits
that
wasn't:
okay,
they
pay
taxes.
So
but
then,
in
essence,
you
you
have.
A
Your
challenges
was
indicated
where
now
some
homes
have
four
or
five
cars
and
where
do
they
park,
I
do
remind
that
we
do
have
homes
in
this
community.
I
have
one
near
me
that
has
no
driveway
has
no
garage.
There
are
homes
that
have
been
built
or
they
were
built
at
a
time.
A
I
don't
think
they
thought
about
putting
a
car
in
the
garage,
and
so
you
know
I
think
we
need
to
be
sensitive
to
that,
but
at
the
same
time
too,
those
are
for
another
discussion
at
another
time,
and
hopefully
I
don't
want
to
repeat
everything
that
everyone
has
said
to
to
move
it
on,
but
what
I
do
whatever
I
did
do
I've
gotten
chief
johansen's,
I
see
his
hand
is
up.
So
I
wanted
my
call
on
the
chief.
M
But
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Just
briefly,
I
wanted
to
support
the
comments
that
the
city
attorney
made
about
the
ordinance.
I
can
appreciate
the
desire
to
support
the
police
department
and
better
delivering
on
the
expectations
of
the
communities
that
are
impacted
by
parking
down
there.
I
think
that
what
maybe
didn't
get
said
as
succinctly
as
it
needs
to
be
said,
is
that
it,
the
the
the
courts,
are
moving
in
the
opposite
direction
of
strengthening
toe
ordinances
and
the
authority
to
tow.
A
Thank
you,
chief
and-
and
this
has
been
told
to
the
council
before
that
we
know-
there's
been
legislation
in
sacramento
in
regards
to
that
so,
and-
and-
and
I
it
is
in
my
belief-
and
I
could
be
corrected-
is
that
if
there
were
items
within
title
seven
that
the
police
department
or
the
chief
for
his
commanding
felt
needed
to
be
modified
and
or
added
would
have
been
brought
forward
to
mr
zapparano,
and
we
would
we
would
be
knowing
that
right
here
right
now
with
that
said,
we
do
have,
it
is
a
conduct
of
business.
A
It
is
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversation,
but
it
would
it's
the
waving
of
the
reading
and
introducing
an
ordinance.
And
so
what
is
the
council's
wishes?.
A
I
had
asked
earlier
at
the
beginning,
I'm
sorry
and
no
no,
no
problem
and
I'm
kind
of
keep.
I
was
keeping
my
eye
on,
but
as
as
the
vice
mayor
said,
just
because
the
vice
mayor
said:
let's
anybody
please
raise
their
hand
I'll,
stop
I'll,
stop
the
motion,
but
there
is
a
motion
on
on
the
floor
from
council
member
salazar.
A
Is
there
a
second
I'll?
Second
it
the
vice
mayor
medina
has
seconded
it.
May
I
please
so,
and
that
is
to
waive
the
first
reading.
May
I
please
have
a
roll
call.
C
A
Hi,
okay,
the
first
reading
has
been
waived
and
now
we
have
the
introduction
of
the
ordinance
for
title
seven.
A
I
would
say
the
and
the
motion
and
the
secondary
can
correct
me,
but
it
was
as
presented
with
the
staff
report.
There
was
no
amendments
to
that.
Is
that
correct
motion
and
secondary.
C
That
is
correct.
It
was
my
understanding
that
none
of
the
discussion
led
to
any
changes
in
what's
proposed.
There
was.
A
G
Yeah,
I
thought
the
city
attorney
did
say.
A
couple
of
those
changes
were
okay
in
the
wording
and
but
we
should
be
really
specific
on
this.
So
so
I'll.
Take
my
my
second
back.
C
A
Yeah,
let's
just
let's
have
clarity,
I'm
going
to
have
the
city
attorney
we're
going
to
walk
through
this.
What
I
understood
under
there
was
a
recommendation
by
council
member
mason
under
page
13200
duties,
attorney
zafarano
had
his
verbiage
of
the
succession
and
recommendation
that
that
is
what
I
recall
and
does
anybody
recall
any
other
changes?
I
think
that
takes
care
of
what
we
were
talking
about
in
the
beginning.
D
E
Not
prior
to
staff
saturn
zepharano,
it's
prior
to
finalizing
a
study.
So
if
the
consultant
brings
back
a
study,
it
would
go
to
the
tspc
before
it
went
to
the
council
if
it's
even
gonna
go
to
the
council
so
essentially
before
the
study
is
finalized.
The
step
before
finalization
is
the
tspc.
E
That's
that's
what
council
member
hamilton
said
after
I
made
the
comment,
so
we
can,
we
can
make
it
up.
I
mean
we
can
make
it
a
policy,
because
if
it's
a
practice
it
doesn't
have
to
be
here
too.
D
So
if
I
may
interject
through
the
yeah,
I
think
that
the
difficulty
we're
going
to
have
here
is
there
may
be
an
entire
subset
of
traffic
studies
that
don't
ever
go
to
the
tspc
and
aren't
required
to
and
there's
no
reason
for
them
to
go
and
I'm
concerned
that
the
proposed
recommendation
really
doesn't
doesn't
distinguish
among
those
situations
and
others
in
which
the
recommendation
is.
Actually
it's
a
tspc
item.
D
So
without
sort
of
having
time
to
think
about
how
many
of
those
items
are
there.
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
recommend
a
change
that
staff
really
hasn't
weighed
in
on.
H
Yeah,
just
to
I
agree
with
everything
the
city
attorney
just
said:
the
psbc
didn't
ever
finalize
the
study.
The
study
was
one
of
the
pieces
of
information
that
we
would
use
to
make
or
to
make
a
recommendation,
so
the
staff
would
come
they'd
give
their
report,
they
would
they.
The
staff
would
have
a
recommendation
and
the
and
the
the
study
was
the
supporting
evidence
for
why
they
made
that
recommendation.
H
What
we
would
do
on
occasion
is,
after
reviewing
the
study,
find
that
it
was
incomplete
in
our
estimation
and
direct
staff
to
please
go
back
and
do
and
expand
the
scope
of
the
study
or
do
whatever
and
bring
the
item
back
to
us
again,
but
we
never
took
any
action
specifically
on
a
study
and,
frankly,
I
wouldn't
recommend
that
we
do
do
that,
because
I
think
it
would
hamper
the
process.
I
do
think
what's
in
place
now
in
terms
of
how
the
tspc
works
with
staff.
H
A
Okay,
so
there
was
modification
made
on
page
132,
as
stated
by
the
city
attorney,
which
he
he
reiterated,
what
his
recommendation
is.
Have
we
all
heard
that
or
all
in
sync
on
that
one
okay,
mark
city
attorney?
Was
there
anything
else
that
you
wanted
to
bring
forward
other
than
that
one
modification
to
the
document.
D
C
Through
the
chair,
just
the
clarification
on
the
first
point,
then,
are
we
saying
that
there
will
be
an
adjustment
to
the
the
language
regarding
the
the
committee's
duties
duties
and
if
so,
what?
What
exactly
is
staff
recommending
there.
D
Sure,
and
just
to
be
clear,
I
don't
see
that
my
suggestion
is
changing
your
duties.
I
think
these
are
their
duties
all
along,
and
so
the
recommended
language
would
be
as
follows:
quote
to
provide
a
forum
for
discussion
and
provide
recommendations
regarding
traffic
studies
and
reports.
So
the
wording
that
would
be
added
was
and
provide
recommendations
regarding.
E
I
think
that's
fine.
I
think
if
the
votes
are
just
saying
that
we
agree
with
the
recommendations,
I
think
they're
fine.
My
comments
were
more
trying
to
enhance,
what's
what's
already
there.
So
if
there's
not
enough
support,
then
that's
understandable,
but
the
staff
recommendations
are
are
okay,.
A
C
All
right,
so
I
will
reintroduce
the
motion
to
introduce
the
ordinance
with
the
modifications,
as
just
described
so
eloquently
by
mr
jefferano.
A
Well,
that'll
make
it
easier
who
I
have
the
the
salazar
medina
roll
call.
Please.
G
G
B
A
Thank
you
next
city
clerk
item
b.
A
Thank
you,
city
clerk.
So,
as
you
know
we
have
discussed
it
was
in
the
staff
report
that
was
provided
to
us.
It
was
to
have
two
members
from
the
foundation
two
members
from
the
city
council,
I'm
asking
if
council
member,
hamilton
and
council
member
salazar
would
be
willing
to
serve
on
that
capacity
and
report
back
now.
C
A
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
motion
a
second
just
to
me.
If
there's
consensus,
I'm
fine
with
that,
but
if
we
want
to
go
through
the
process
of
emotion
in
a
second,
I'm
fine
either
way
or
if
there's
other
discussion
on
it.
A
Thank
you
now,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
eight
comments
from
council
members
and
if
my
colleagues
have
anything,
if
you
could
raise
your
virtual
hand
and
we'll
go
around
and
then
I
will
adjourn
the
meeting
vice
mayor
medina.
G
It
was
sure,
was
nice
to
to
walk
around
a
little
bit
with
your
mask
not
on
and
and
and
I
think
in
for
my
family.
I
need
to
be
more
responsible
and
even
just
a
bit
longer.
G
San
mateo
county
is
doing
great,
but
other
parts
of
the
country
aren't.
So
if
you
have
anybody
that
you
know
family
friends
and
they're
not
vaccinated,
you
know
you
can
do
your
best
to
try
to
convince
them.
Some
people
are
adamant,
but
you
know
that's.
G
We
have
a
free
country
supposedly,
so
if
you
can
get
the
you
get
vaccinated,
do
so,
and
I
wanted
to
again
thank
staff
and
and
the
the
amazing
opportunity
that
tanfran
has
again
put
before
before
us
and
and
it's
a
really
special
time,
and
I
I
really
hope
for
the
best
thank.
A
You
you
councilmember
mason,.
E
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
look
forward
to
the
notice
coming
out
on
the
opening
of
the
arts
and
culture
committee,
so
hopefully
we'll
I'm
not
sure
when
that
day
is
going
to
be,
but
we
could
find
out
as
soon
as
possible.
That
would
be
great.
E
The
second
request
is
if
we
could
get
our
superintendent
of
schools
to
give
a
brief
update
at
our
next
council
meeting,
which
will
likely
be
the
first
week
of
school
just
on
what's
going
on
with
the
san
bernardino
park
schools,
I
spoke
with
him
earlier
today
and
he
said
he'd
be
definitely
open
to
coming
back
or
coming
to
the
council
and
just
telling
us
what's
going
on
with
the
school
year,
we
have
over
2000
students
in
the
district
and
we
have.
E
If
not
you
know,
if
you're
not
watching
the
school
board
meetings,
you
might
have
grandparents
out
there
that
are
interested
and
just
community
members
who
want
to
know
what's
going
on
with
our
schools,
so
given
the
year
we've
had.
I
would
hope
that
the
rest
of
the
council
would
be
open
to
that,
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
a
nice
welcome.
Invite
and
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
also
echo
what
vice
mayor
medina
said:
not
not
only
because
people
are
vaccinated,
but
you
know
having
kids
running
around.
E
You
know
that
I
was
just
reading
about
a
five-year-old
who
recently
passed
away
because
of
kovid,
and
so
just
remember
that
our
kids
are
still
vulnerable,
even
though
they
are
in
a
population
that
is
least
hit
really
by
covid,
but
they
are
still
vulnerable
and
remember
to
wear
your
masks
and
kids.
You
know,
kids
are
all
around.
My
kids
have
been
in
the
park
and
wreck
camps
all
summer,
and
I
just
want
to
compliment
the
staff,
because
every
single
time
I've
dropped
the
kids
off
or
pick
them
up.
E
They
are
sure
that
everybody's
wearing
their
masks
and
that
everybody
is
safe
and
the
kids
have
had
a
really
great
time
at
the
camps
all
summer.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
staff,
because
I
just
can't
believe
what
a
great
job
they've
done
with
kids
from
a
very
young
age.
You
know
all
the
way
to
their
teens,
ensuring
that
their
masks
are
on
and
that
they're
safe
while
they're
eating.
So
thank
you
so
much.
A
Any
other
comments
from
council,
okay,
then
I'll
go
ahead
and
first
wanted
to
remind
folks
as
well
as
be
appreciative
that
august
the
6th
will
be
concerts
in
the
park.
It
is
back
and
for
the
month
of
august,
please
come
fridays.
Obviously,
please
be
respectful,
be
safe
and
and
let's
all
keep
each
other
healthy,
but
it'll
be
something
nice
to
bring
back
and
have
that
together.
A
The
other
thing
is,
is
I
also
wanted
just
to
take
an
opportunity
to
we're.
Not,
I
think
all
council
concurs
we're
not
out
of
the
woods
yet.
The
senior
center
opened
up
monday,
that
was
nice
to
see
and
to
so
things
are
opening,
but
also
as
we
watch
the
news
we
need
to
be
mindful,
we
want
to
keep
going
forward.
We
want
to
keep
moving
forward
together
and
not
backward,
so
let's
all
do
our
part
to
to
help
one
another.
A
Finally,
tonight
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
adjourn
in
the
memory
of
judith
or
aka
judy
cheney
judy.
Unfortunately,
we
we
lost
her.
Last
thursday
services
will
be
held
on
august,
the
14th
at
one
o'clock.
The
venue
will
be
announced
tomorrow.
A
I
met
judy
when
I
was
a
young
person
at
cappuccino,
high
school
as
a
student,
and
she
was
an
involved
very
engaged
and
a
very
passionate
parent
at
that
time,
and
I've
seen
her
through
the
decades
of
her
continued
commitment
to
the
education
system,
whether
it
was
with
the
san
bernardino
school
district
measure
x,
whether
it
was
getting
equipment
and
band
uniforms
for
parkside
and
our
cap,
taking
on
the
alumni
association
with
council
member
salazar,
who
is
the
president
judith
was
the
vice
president.
A
She
worked
for
the
high
school
district.
She
was
on
ptas,
so
she
did
the
gamut.
She
was
also
one
who
one
day
called
me
a
while
ago
and
said:
hey:
do
you
know
what
they're
doing
at
the
high
school
district
they're
trying
to
sell
the
a
lot
which
got
me
down
to
san
mateo,
because
we
met
in
person
way
back
then
and
got
me
down
to
be
at
that
meeting
and
let
the
school
board
know
that
they
had
not
reached
out
as
they
should.
A
So
it
is
to
me
the
appropriate
thing
tonight
to
thank
her
and
for
all
that
she's
done
and
the
lives
that
she
has
touched
and
they
will
be
remembered,
not
forgotten,
and
we
will
she
would
say
we
will
carry
the
torch
on.
So
with
that.
If
you
will
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence,.