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San Bruno City Council Meeting September 14, 2021
7a. Construction Site Fencing and Screening Standards
B
Ready
mayor.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
we'll
we
will
come
out
of
recess
and
come
back
to
our
council
meeting
for
september
the
14th
we
have
just
concluded
the
conduct
of
business
and
we
will
move
on
to
item
seven
study
session.
First
item
receive
a
report
and
provide
direction
regarding
proposed
standards
for
fencing
and
screening
of
construction
sites
and
construction
storage.
Flash
staging
areas.
B
Thank
you,
mayor
member
city
council,
the
item
that
is
before
you
is
discussing
proposed
standards
for
fencing
and
screening
at
construction
sites.
I
think
members
of
the
public,
and
certainly
members
of
the
council,
have
seen
the
various
state
areas
around
our
community
and
they're
frankly
in
various
stages
of
aesthetics.
Somehow
we'll
maintain
construction,
others
don't
and
the
leaves
and
defenses
sometimes
are
tattered
and
the
reasons.
B
I
will
talk
about
that.
We
know
that
it
is
a
concern
of
the
council
of
the
community
and
while
we
try
to
address
the
one-off
situations,
this
is
a
problem
that
really
deserves
a
systematic
approach
and
a
systematic
relook
on
how
on
what
our
requirements
are,
and
so
the
presentation
tonight
will
be
provided
by
mike
mcauldin.
B
Mike
mccalden
is
a
expert
consultant
with
the
municipal
resource
group.
He
is
assisting
the
city.
While
we
have
an
interim
public
director
he's
undertaken
a
number
of
tasks
for
the
center
for
the
city.
Chief
among
them
is
conducting
a
organizational
assessment
of
the
public
works
department
at
the
city.
B
Just
about
every
time
that
we've
had
a
department
director
transition,
so
the
new
director
can
walk
in
with
an
outside
third
party
evaluation
and
some
recommendations,
but
he's
also
been
assisting
staff
and
taking
on
individual
projects.
This
being
one
of
them.
I
asked
mike
to
take
a
look
at
our
practices
and
policies
around
construction,
fencing
and
lay
down
yards
and
provide
some
recommendations.
So
mike
is
with
us
tonight
he's
prepared
the
materials
that
are
before
you,
and
so
with
that.
Why
don't?
B
I
turn
it
over
to
my
I
invited
him
to
present
tonight.
I
did
not
tell
him
that
it
would
be
nearly
10
o'clock
when
he
went
on,
but
he
is
here
and
I
know
has
been
waiting,
and
so
can
we
bring
mike
in,
as
a
analyst
looks
like
he's
entering
right
now
and
there's
a
powerpoint
that
he
will
share
with
the
city
council
hi
mike
good
evening,
and
I'm
sorry
before
mike
goes.
I
forgot
to
say
your
resume
mike
has
nearly
30
years
of
experience
in
both
the
public
and
private
sector.
B
He
was
the
public
works
director
for
the
city
of
san
leandro
for
eight
years,
as
well
as
the
deputy
general
manager
and
the
interim
general
manager
for
the
deal
for
the
delta
diablo
sanitation
district.
So
he
comes
to
to
us
with
a
welfare
subworks
and
what
killer
experience.
D
Great,
am
I
on
perfect
well
good
evening,
mayor
city
council,
the
pleasure
to
be
in
front
of
you
tonight,
regardless
of
the
hour,
so
javon
gave
a
great
introduction.
So
I
think
I'm
going
to
jump
right
into
the
presentation.
D
D
Why
have
a
great
looking
fence
for
an
outside
staging
area
and
then
have
a
have
a
cruddy
looking
fence
for
construction,
the
construction
site
itself,
so
we
decided
to
unite
so
to
speak,
the
analysis
to
look
at
all
fencing
for
any
kind
of
construction
site,
whether
it
be
on-site
storage,
outside
storage
and
for
the
construction
site
itself,
and
then
part
of
the
review
is
also
to
look
at
the
actual
process
for
the
review
and
approval
of
construction
sites
and,
most
most
importantly,
the
oversight,
because
you
know
no
matter
what
standards
you
have.
D
D
The
next
is
also
an
engineering
department.
It's
for
encroachment,
permit,
there's
standard
conditions
for
encroaching
permits
for
work
in
the
right
of
way
and
that's
typically,
work
performed
by
the
utilities,
but
it
can
also
be
for
other
types
of
private
contractors
that
say
plumber's
doing
work
in
the
street.
Things
like
that.
D
The
next
approval
is
is
conditions
of
approval
through
the
planning
department.
You
know
as
part
of
the
entitlement
process
or
someone
coming
in
through
some
kind
of
a
planning.
Zoning
approval
and
the
the
last
kind
of
mechanism
is
a
building
permit.
So
pretty
much
any
type
of
building
construction
project
is
going
to
have
to
go
through
the
city
and
obtain
a
building
from
it.
So
they
may
not
have
to
go
through
public
works.
They
may
not
need
encroachment
permit.
D
They
may
not
need
to
go
through
planning
for
for
conditions
approval,
but
you
know
virtually
every
construction
project
will
at
least
go
through
the
building
department
and
obtain
a
building
from
it,
and
then
the
city
has
actually
a
fairly
unique
requirement.
It's
in
the
zoning
code.
It
says
that
any
off-site
temporary
storage
construction
staging
areas
need
to
obtain
a
temporary
use
permit
from
the
planning
commission.
D
So
the
review
process
consisted
of
of
several
steps,
but
the
first
one
was
that
there
were
the
first
finding
was
sort
of
speakers.
The
city
does
not
have
consistent
and
detailed
standards
for
staging
area
and
construction
site,
temporary
fencing
and
screening
and-
and
the
reason
it's
not
consistent-
is
that
the
planning
department's
conditions
of
approval
may
not
mesh
it
with
exactly
what
the
engineering
department
puts
in
their
specifications,
which
may
not
measure
what
the
building
department
puts
into
their
standard
conditions
or
approval
for
building
permits.
D
D
So,
in
terms
of
findings,
many
cities
identify
potential
staging
areas
for
public
works
projects
prior
to
bid,
and
not
only
for
public
works
projects,
but
even
private
developers.
Good
examples
in
in
your
area
would
be
the
city
of
millbrae
and
the
city
of
burlingame.
They
both
have
somewhat
remote
city-owned
property.
You
know
along
the
bay
shore.
One
is
along
a
close-up
golf
course.
D
They
can
have
contractors
store
things
out
of
out
of
sight,
and
then
a
few
agencies
actually
have
fairly
detailed,
fencing
and
screening
specifications
requirements
for
construction
sites,
but
not
really
for
outside
staging
errors.
We
were
not
able
to
find
really
sites
or
specific
specifications
for
outside
staging
errors.
Really
all
the
fencing
requirements
really
applied
to
construction
sites
and
the
vast
majority
of
cities
really
had
very
general
generic
kind
of
you
know,
make
put
up
a
fence,
put
up
screening
and
make
it
look
pretty.
D
And
last
really
one
of
the
key
findings
that
the
city's
requirement
for
temporary
use
permit
via
the
planning
commission
is
highly
unusual
and
and
really
what
what
it
does
with
for
the
city
is
that
it.
It
potentially
creates
significant
delays,
costs
and
inefficiencies
in
the
process
because
to
go
through
the
planning
commission,
it's
it's
at
best,
the
two-month
process.
Everything
goes
perfectly,
whereas
more
realistically,
it's
probably
closer
to
three-month
process,
which,
in
some
cases
can
exceed
actual
the
length
of
time
that
the
actual
construction
will
be
ongoing.
D
D
So
what
are
the
proposed
standards
in
this
particular
slide?
We're
going
to
highlight
you
know
some
of
the
key
findings
or
the
key
standards.
It's
not
a
complete
listing
of
all
the
stands,
but
what
we
believe
are
the
most
significant
ones
and
and
the
ones
that
will
provide
the
most
improvement
to
appearance
of
construction
site
and
staging
area,
fencing
and
screening
so
for
projects
in
the
public
light.
D
The
issue
in
the
past
has
been
that,
if
the
construct,
if
a
contractor,
was
storing
things
like
a
pipe
and
and
for
like
a
sewer
or
or
a
pipeline
project
for
for
a
water
system-
and
they
were
storing
it
on
the
street,
the
problem
was
that
if
they
destroyed
it
for
weeks
or
months
on
end
same
location,
it
became
a
public
nuisance
and
they
were
stored
in
the
same
location,
causing
a
nuisance
for
again
for
the
people
immediately
in
the
immediate
adjacent
area
of
the
actual
staging
area.
D
So
a
standard
that
we
found
that
existed
both
in
millbrae
and
the
city
of
los
altos
was
to
limit
the
actual
storage
in
the
public
right-of-way
to
to
the
work
week.
In
other
words,
you
bring
just
enough
material
to
complete
the
work
for
a
given
work
week
and
then,
as
at
the
end
of
the
day
friday,
you
move
the
materials
off-site.
So
there's
really
no
storage
over
the
weekend
and
then,
as
the
work
progresses
you
actually
the
following
week,
you
would
move
the
staging
area.
D
You
know
up
the
block
or
down
to
the
next
street,
so
you're
constantly
moving
the
staging
area,
so
you're
not
parked
in
front
of
the
same
house.
Restoring
the
chosen
front
of
the
same
house
or
the
same
group
of
houses
week
in
week
out
and
then
part
of
the
new
standard
would
be
that
any
debris
or
loose
material
would
have
to
be
cleaned
up
at
the
end
of
each
work
day
for
projects
on
public
or
private
property.
D
The
construction
site
and
staging
area
will
be
secured
by
chain-link
fans
with
bottom
and
top
rail
and
the
key
standard.
There
is
a
top
rail
because
without
a
top
rail,
the
defense
tends
to
sag
and
then
so
does
any
kind
of
screening
detail.
So
that
would
be
an
additional
standards
to
ensure
the
presence
of
a
pop
rail
and
then,
more
importantly,
when
adjacent
to
public
light
away.
The
fence
must
have
screening
that
is
maintained
in
a
top
condition,
with
no
risk
or
tears
greater
than
two
inches.
D
D
And
this
the
next
condition
is
actually
borrowed
from
beverly
hills
of
all
places,
which
is
where,
where
possible,
defense
is
to
be
set
back,
two
feet
from
the
sidewalk,
and
that
is
to
allow
a
little
bit
more
elbow
room
when
there's
a
project
right
up
the
sidewalk.
D
D
And
so
this
is
just
a
stock
photo
showing
what
a
construction
or
staging
area
fence
you
know
would
look
like
under
that
standard
work.
You
would
have
a
fence
with
a
bottom
top
rail.
The
material
would
be.
You
know
in
in
good,
clean
condition
and
then
also
maintain
top.
So
you
wouldn't
have
the
material
flapping
around.
You
wouldn't
have
the
big
gaps
with
sagging
at
the
top
of
the
fence.
D
So
an
additional
standard
for
just
the
construction
sites,
not
the
staging
areas,
would
be
to
have
a
sign
on
the
fencing
that
provides
a
name
and
emergency
contact.
Information
for
the
general
contractor
and
the
signed
letting
would
have
to
be
large
enough
to
be
read
from
10
feet
away
and
the
sun
would
not
be
allowed
to
extend
beyond
the
top
of
the
fence.
D
Now
the
key
to
implementing
these
new
standards
really
is
to
train
engineering
planning,
building
and
code
enforcement
staff
to
the
new
standards,
because
the
city
does
have
existing
standards
now
for
cleanliness
on
construction
sites,
they're
very
generic.
They
don't
provide
a
lot
of
detail,
but
you
know
you
know
generally
on
a
public
works
project.
There
will
be
some
kind
of
language
about
maintaining
a
storage
area
or
the
construction
site
in
a
clean
and
ordinary
state
in
an
orderly
state
and
then
the
building
code
and
also
the
encroachment
permit
standard
conditions.
D
You
know
talk
about,
you
know
a
clean
site,
so
the
idea
here
is
to
train
all
sites
to
be
more
aware
of
of
the
need
and
the
desire
to
maintain
the
outside
of
any
construction
site,
as
well
as
this
offside
staging
area
in
a
clean
and
oily
fashion
and
to
you
know,
pay
close
attention
to
the
fencing
and
the
screening
to
ensure
that
it's
not
allowed
to
deteriorate
over
the
life
of
the
project
and
then
also
one
of
the
efforts
that
staff
is
currently
doing
is
to
continue
to
search
for
appropriate
staging
areas
that
are
that
could
be
made
available
to
contractors
that
are
in
a
less
visible
area.
D
D
D
That's
really
the
goal,
so
the
staff
is
identifying
sites
and
trying
to
you
know
see
if
we
can
obtain,
or
at
least
get
approval
to,
to
use
these
sites.
For
these
types
of
projects.
D
You
know
the
the
a
lot
of
those
conditions
are
staff
driven
or
staff
derived
anyway,
so
that's
those
those
conditions
can
be
added
pretty
much.
You
know
at
the
staff's
discretion
at
any
time.
D
The
main
action
that
staff
is
asking
the
council
to
take
is
to
prepare
a
zoning
code
or
zoning
ordinance
amendment
that
revises
the
section
12.84.030
of
the
municipal
code
to
remove
all
references
to
off-site
construction.
Staging
areas
and
staff
would
bring
that
particular
amendment
before
the
planning
commission,
followed
by
the
city
council,
and
with
that
that's
the
end
of
the
presentation
and
staff
is
available
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Great
thank
you
very
much
for
your
patience
and
staying
with
us
into
the
evening
and
thank
you
for
your
of
the
very
detail
and
the
research
that
you've
done
for
this.
With
that,
I'm
going
to
open
it
to
first
to
counsel
for
questions
on
the
presentation.
Please
and
considering
I
want
to
be
mindful
of
the
hour
too.
If
we
can
try
to
get
it
all,
maybe
we
can
do
a
circle
around
the
around
for
each
other,
then
I
want
to
open
it
to
the
public,
bring
it
back
to
the
council.
E
E
I
think
city
manager,
for
putting
this
in
contact
when,
when
I
first
started
bringing
this
up
to
staff's
attention
about
the
problems
that
we
were
having
with
with
staging
areas
and-
and
you
said
it
yourself-
the
the
the
location
at
san
bernardino
avenue
and
and
huntington
there
isn't
a
good
one
to
have
a
staging
area,
but
instead
of
looking
back,
let's
look
forward.
So
I'm
okay
with
most
of
the
things
that
you
presented
tonight.
E
The
city
has
always
been
able
to
enforce
numerous
contract
provisions
on
cleanliness
and
if,
if,
if
I'm
going
to
approve
what
is
here
tonight,
I
need
to
see
more
teeth
in
in
the
enforcement
aspect.
E
So
I
know
this
is
a
study
session,
so
I'm
concerned
about
removing
zoning
of
of-
and
maybe
I
don't
understand
this
fully
of
how
to
allow
the
use
of
a
property
as
a
as
a
lay
down
yard
that
that
is
a
pretty
substantial
thing
to
do.
When
somebody
lives
next
door
to
it
and
and
in
a
residential
area
or
next
door
to
a
residential
area,
it
doesn't
seem
appropriate
and
it
should
go
through
a
special
process,
which
was
primarily
why
I
had
an
issue
with
the
the
location
there
at
san
bernardino
avenue.
E
E
Cal
train
property
currently
is
using
an
area
as
a
lay
down
yard
there
on
huntington.
E
Be
a
lay
down
yard,
with
caltrains
permission,
because
currently
caltrain,
I
believe,
allows
the
city
to
to
have
their
own
little
lay
down
yard,
with
all
the
construction
debris
and
base
rock
and
there
across
from
the
corp
yard
there
on
huntington
near
san
felipe.
E
So
I
do
have
an
objection
to.
I
need
some
more
clarity
on
our
requirements
on
leaving
construction
materials
on
the
street
five
days.
E
It
could
be
a
lot
of
material
if,
if
a
contractor
decides
to
dump
a
lot
of
base
rock
all
along
the
street
five
days
worth
so
I'd
like
to
see
that
tightened
up
a
little
bit
and
if
we're
really
going
to
put
down
that
the
contractor
is
going
to
clean
every
day
at
the
end
of
the
work
day,
then
you
need
to
spell
that
out
by
how
you
need
to
spell
that
out.
Is
it
going
to
be
a
street
sweeper,
that's
going
to
come
by,
so
I
like
that.
E
I
like
the
way
that
overall,
this
this
this
is
going,
but
I
I
need
to
see
a
little
more
detail
in
it,
and
I
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
C
C
So
I
I
have,
I
have
a.
I
have
a
concern
about
the
enforcement
piece
of
it
because,
as
was
mentioned,
we
have
standards
today
and
and
they're
they're,
not
as
clearly
spelled
out
as
as
they
are
here
and
that
in
in
this
proposal,
and
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
for
this
proposal.
C
But
I
don't
believe
that
you
know
there
are
clearly
areas
of
the
of
the
of
the
city
that
aren't
that
are
below
even
the
current
standards.
So
I'm
really
I'm
really
concerned
about
the
about
the
enforcement
piece
so
like,
for
example
like
just
for
bringing
out
an
example
out
of
the
presentation
tournament.
Screening
screening
must
be
replaced
within
48
hours.
How
is
that
measured?
C
If
regular
work
doesn't
happen
to
take
them
into
a
particular
area,
then
maybe
the
screening
is
going
to
be
ripped
for
for
well
beyond
48
hours,
so
those
those
types
of
things
that
I
like
to
see
see
tightened
up
in
here
and
and
spelled
out
a
little
bit
better,
because
you
know
we
and-
and
you
know-
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
with
with
staffing
shortages
and
and
and
whatnot.
C
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
I
also
agree
that
enforcement
is
a
huge
piece
of
this,
but
I
I
don't
think
it's
it's
a
total
waste
to
you
know
to
have
these
regulations
in
place
and
and
staffing
is
definitely
an
issue
when
it
comes
to
enforcement
across
the
board,
and
it
will
be
difficult,
but
I
believe
if
we
are
very
clear
and
we
spell
out
what
our
expectations
are
and
if
we
have
penalties
that
help
sort
of
drive
the
point
home,
it's
definitely
better
than
not
having
anything
at
all
in
place.
F
Hopefully
we
will
have
at
some
point
enough
staff
to
go
out
and
and
do
the
inspections
and
make
sure
that
you
know
that
people
are
adhering
to
it.
But
you
know
oftentimes,
just
the
the
threat
of
a
fine
is
enough
to
at
least
it
gets
at
least
some
some
of
the
actors
out
there
to
not
be
bad
actors
and
and
to
comply.
F
A
Okay,
seeing
no
other
hands
up
by
council
members,
I'll
just
say
one
or
two
comments
and
we
will
go
to
public.
So
if
the
members
of
the
public
wish
to
speak,
if
you
could
raise
your
hand
now,
I
think
expectations
need
to
be.
Some
of
this
has
been
set,
but
expectations
that
need
to
be
spelt
out
and
clear
enforcement.
Also.
A
A
I
do
appreciate
the
detail
of
the
report
as
well
as
looking
into
the
nearby
and
beyond
that.
So
with
that,
why
don't
we
move
to
public
members
of
the
public
and
city
clerk?
If
you
could
bring
in
our
speakers?
G
Good
evening,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
awesome,
good
evening
everybody?
I
I
have
experienced
this
firsthand.
You
know
the
construction
site
when
they
were
doing
the
water,
sewer,
replacement
and
pavement
of
our
neighborhood
and
yeah.
This
is
great
idea.
I
mean
I
wish
it
was.
This
was
brought
up
a
year
ago
or
so,
but
anyway
I
I
like
the
outcome
of
you,
know
the
job
completed
the
streets,
look
great,
the
water's,
looking
good
working
good
sewers
are
working
good
anyway,
so
yeah.
G
I
think
the
construction
companies
need
to
be
accountable
to
keeping
their
areas
clean.
I
mean
they.
I
mean
I've
called
I've.
I've
been
the
inspector
in
my
and
I
was
the
inspector
in
my
neighborhood.
I
mean
I
was
calling
the
number
on
the
a-frame
signs
and
they
responded,
but
you
know
they.
They
just
need
to
be
held
accountable
to
clean
up
their
area.
They
leave
signs
up.
You
know
where
they're
not
going
to
be
doing
construction-
and
you
know
you
know
parking
is
is-
is-
is
very
valuable
and
it
takes
up.
G
You
know
those
parking
spaces
and
it
impacts
the
the
neighborhood.
So
if
they
don't
remove
the
signs
you
know
like
they
should
you
know
and
they
they
fall
down,
and
you
know
it
just
leaves
a
bad
image.
You
know
in
the
neighborhood,
I
just
don't
like
it.
I
mean
nobody
likes
it
so,
but
yeah.
If
somebody
could,
I
know
the
staff
is
challenged,
but
you
know
somebody
needs
to
oversee
these
construction
companies
when
they're
done
the
day
at
five
o'clock
or
so
or
four
o'clock
and
just
make
them
accountable.
G
You
know
I've
seen
like
I
said:
porta
potties
left
in
neighborhoods
next
to
somebody's
house.
That
is
to
me
that's
very
unacceptable.
I
mean
who
knows
that
could
tip
over
or
I'm
sure
it
smells.
I
mean
I'm
not
sure
how
they're
serviced
but
anyway,
but
this
is
great
idea.
I
hope
it
gets
enforced.
Well,
I
don't
know
who's
gonna
enforce
it.
I'd
like
to
know
who's
gonna
enforce
it,
because
I
know
staff
is
challenged.
The
police
department
is
code
enforcement
and
they're
they're
way
under
staff,
and
they
have
so
many
things
to
handle.
G
I
mean
keeping
our
city
safe
is
a
challenge
already.
If
this
is
going
to
be
another
thing
on
their
plate,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
really
spread
them
out.
Then
I
appreciate
all
the
work,
the
staff's
done
and
on
putting
this
presentation
together
and
I
like
to
see
the
the
results.
A
Thank
you
for
your
comments,
see
no
other
hands
up.
We
will
then
bring
it
back
to
council.
Public
comment.
Time
is
done.
Is
there
any
again?
This
is
for
direction.
This
is
not
an
adoption.
You've
seen
the
report.
I
I
believe
between
mike
or
I'm
sure,
the
city
manager
in
regards
to
some
of
the
items
that
have
been
brought
up.
I
don't
know
if
that
gives
you
enough
direction
or
if
you,
you
need
a
little
more
clarity
on
anything
specific.
Please
mike.
D
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
a
couple
of
of
issues
and
and
maybe
offer
some
perspective,
so
there's
there's
I've
heard
two
things.
One
was
kind
of
a
reticence
to
change
the
the
zoning
code
and
the
other
issue
that
was
mentioned
by
pretty
much
every
council
member
was
enforcement.
D
So
in
terms
of
the
zoning
code
amendment
you
know
the
reason
that
staff
is
requesting
that
that
be
modified
is
that
I
mean
really.
San
bruno
is
the
only
municipality
that
that
we
could
find
that
really
has
that
kind
of
a
requirement
and
because
it's
a
discretionary
approval,
I
mean
the
way.
D
The
way
to
look
at
it
is
imagine
that
a
contractor
wins
a
bid,
whether
it
be
a
city
project
or
or
private
development
and
he's,
and
they
say
he
gets
a
notice
to
proceed
that
gives
him
the
30
to
60
days
to
start
so
in
that
window
the
contractor
has
to
file
an
application
with
the
city's
zoning
board
for
approval,
in
which
the
process
may
actually
take
longer
than
than
the
time
they
have
to
start
construction
and
then
because
it's
a
discretionary
process,
there's
a
possibility
that
the
that
the
you
know
the
zoning
board
says
no
and
then
are
we.
D
So
the
problem
becomes
and
does
the
contractors
now
have
to
restart
a
two
to
three
month
process
or
take
weeks
or
months
to
find
a
new
location
and
then
go
through
the
similar
two
to
three
month
process
to
find
a
different
location.
So
that's
that's
the
kind
of
the
practical
difficulty
with
having
a
contractor
who's.
D
The
councils,
as
well
as
the
public's
needs
in
terms
of
you,
know,
protecting
views
and
and
keeping
things
looking
neat
and
keep
in
mind
that
the
standards
that
are
being
proposed
today
I
mean
they
can
be
updated
at
any
time
because
we're
not
asking
to
adopt
them
as
part
of
the
municipal
code
of
the
zoning
code,
so
they're
going
to
be
administrative
conditions
that
will
be
added
to
every
permit
and
every
condition
of
approval
that
goes
after
related
to
construction,
storage,
areas
and
construction
sites,
and
so
really,
if
it's
a
matter
of
adding
saying
hey,
this
isn't
working
well,
we're
not!
D
You
know
we're
concerned
about
this.
You
know.
Maybe
we
need
to
be
more
specific
on
that
staff
can
do
that
at
really.
Any
time
add
additional
requirements
at
additional
specifications
that
clarify
issues,
so
it's
kind
of
a
living
thing
that
can
be
amended
and
and
improved
at
any
point
in
time
in
the
future
now
and
on
the
enforcement
issue
I
just
wanted
to
offer.
The
following
is
that
the
construction
is
a
little
bit
different
than
your
standard
kind
of
enforcement.
You
know
when
a
police
officer
talks
about
enforcement.
D
D
Construction
is
more
of
a
relationship
right.
It's
an
ongoing
process
where
inspector
typically
works
with
the
same
contractors
over
and
over
again,
whether
they
be
a
city
contractor
working
on
a
capital
project
or
whether
it
be
a
a
contract
or
a
plumber.
Let's
say
who's
constantly
doing
jobs
in
san
bruno,
so
it's
someone
they
may
run
into
on
an
ongoing
basis
throughout
the
year.
So
in
terms
of
enforcement,
it
really
becomes
a
relationship
issue.
D
It's
it's
making
the
contractor
aware
of
the
city's
priorities
and
so
typically
on
a
construction
project,
let's
say
and
talk
to
the
staff.
If
you
have
a
city
project,
you
would
have
a
pre-construction
meeting
and
that
would
be
the
opportunity
for
the
city
staff.
The
project,
manager
and
inspectors
say:
hey
look.
The
city
is
re-emphasizing
and
putting
a
highlight
and
spotlight
on
on
on
site
conditions
on
housekeeping.
D
So
that's
really
the
primary
goal
and
the
primary
method
of
getting
contractors
that
you
know
work
in
the
city
and
do
work
in
the
city
to
understand
that
it's
become
a
higher
priority
and
even
for
encroaching
permits.
The
city
staff,
the
city
inspectors,
tend
to
have
pre-construction
meetings,
whether
it
be
with
the
pg
e
or
again.
D
You
know
a
smaller
contractor
doing
work
in
the
city,
so
there's
an
opportunity
at
the
beginning
of
every
project
to
to
to
educate
and
to
sort
of
get
get
buy-in
from
the
contractors
to
to
meet
the
city's
new
expectations
and
stands
when
it
comes
to
housekeeping.
B
Thank
you,
mayor
and
council.
I
just
want
to
add
on
to
what
my
book
did
mention
by
saying
the
recommendation
to
remove
the
requirement
to
go
to
the
planning.
Commission
is
also
a
balance
between
having
reasonable
standards
that
are
appropriate
for
the
aesthetics
of
the
community
that
we
want,
but
that
are
also
that
don't
put
additional
illnesses
on
development
and
contractors
where
we
hear
so
often
that
the
requirements
in
doing
business
in
san
bruno
is.
B
Right
and
so
it's
striking
that
balance
between
having
the
requirements
and
the
practices
and
the
and
the
procedures
to
have
the
aesthetics
we
want,
but
not
making
it
harder
to
do
business
here
than
it
is
elsewhere,
and
you
guys
hear
that,
frankly,
probably
just
as
much
as
me
or
more
and
with
regard
to
the
will
there
be
additional
training
of
staff.
B
Absolutely
I
mean
we
are
proffering
this
new
system,
and
that
comes
with
sort
of
a
re-education
of
our
staff,
creating
those
consistent
patterns
and,
as
mike
mentioned,
those
pre-construction
or
pre-enforcement
meetings
where,
where
we
set
that
tone
and
have
a
heightened
focus
on
this,
knowing
that
it
is
an
interest
of
the
of
the
community.
A
A
Okay,
see
none,
I
think,
we've
given
a
lot
of
food
for
thought,
and
I
appreciate
the
feedback
from
our
comments
by
both
the
both
of
you.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
report.
B
Yes,
if
we
have
a
majority
of
support
tonight
to
move
forward
with
the
recommendations,
we
would
then
begin
the
process
of
implementing
those
and
and
as
was
mentioned
in
the
powerpoint.
Yes,
it
would
be
to
go
to
the
planning
commission
first
and
then
bring
it
back
to
the
city
council
as
well
as
well
as
developing
all
the
other
internal
standards.
But
but
if
there's
not
majority
support
right
now
to
do
that,
then
there's
there's
no
sense
of
doing
that
work
to
go
to
the
planning
commission.
B
E
Sure,
I'm
I'm
not
ready
yet
to
get
rid
of
the
temporary
use.
E
A
E
Just
share
that
now.
The
way
it
currently
is
proposed,
there's
reasons
and
and
some
bruno
does
a
lot
of
things
unique,
uniquely
right,
so
the
point
of
just
being
to
protect
residents
from
a
lay
down
yard
next
door.
E
And-
and
it
has
worked
in
the
past-
it
takes
more
work,
yes,
but
it
was
used
to
when,
when
we
were
doing
all
the
work
and
and
the
rebuilding
the
in
crestmore,
we
identified
got
a
use.
Permit.
E
It's
been
used
many
times
and
I
think
that's
a
really
big
jump
when
we
know
there's
a
big
construction
project
which
is
going
to
come
next
as
we
proceed
with
our
water
insurer
staff
can
identify
where,
where
that
location
should
be
and
the
the
the
past,
I
don't
want
to
dwell
in
the
past,
but
what
I've
seen
in
the
past.
It's
I'm
having
a
hard
time
saying
yes
to
this,
so
I'm
sharing
that
now.
A
E
E
I
can
I'll
be
happy
to
send
additional
questions
as
if,
if
need
be,
but
I
think
this
still
needs
some
work
and-
and
let
me
tell
you
if
you're
living
right
next
door
to
it
and-
and
I
can
tell
you
there
was-
there-
was
improvement
as
during
this
last
phase
of
the
water
in
the
sewer.
There
was
some
improvement,
but
it
it.
It
was
pretty
nasty
in
in
some
neighborhoods
in
the
past
couple
years,
as
we
were
doing,
construction
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Okay,.
A
Other
final
comments
or
council
member
salazar,
thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so
not
not
to
you
know,
dispute
the
vice
mayor's
concerns,
but
you
know
I
agree
that
there
have
been
situations
where
enforcement
has
become
a
problem
with
with
temporary
staging
areas,
but
I
don't
recall
ever
having
vigorous
debate
about
approving
a
temporary
use
for
them.
So
the
only
thing
that
would
change
by
eliminating
that
is
that
it
would
no
longer
go
before
the
planning
commission
in
the
council
to
approve
it.
F
But
I
believe
that
the
enforcement
of
standards,
which
is
where
we've
seen
the
problem,
would
be
something
that
we
are.
You
know
that's
what
we're
trying
to
address,
but
I
don't
think
that
would
be
exacerbated
or
circumvented
by.
You
know
this
change,
where
the
council
and
the
planning
commission
have
to
approve
that
use.
So
you
know
a
lot.
The
problem
seemed
to
happen
after
not
not
because
we
approved
it,
but
because
you
know
construction
companies
get
sloppy.
F
So
I
have
less
of
an
issue
with
with
exploring
that
path,
and
I
I
think
it
might
be
worthwhile
if
it
does
help
streamline,
as
the
city
manager
pointed
out,
a
cumbersome
project
that
causes
delays
to
construction.
A
Okay,
I
I
would
for
myself,
I
kind
of
echo
a
little
bit
of
council
member
cells,
or
I
think
it
is
once
it's
established,
and
it's
about
enforcement
and
maintaining
those
expectations.
A
I
don't
I
do
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
have
something
hampered
and
streamlining
is
better
because,
yes,
we
do
here,
it
takes
a
lot
to
go
through
processes
and
the
timing
and
stuff
like
that.
But
any
other
comments
from
council,
okay,
so
city
manager,
is
there
anything
else
that
you
need,
or
you
want
clarity
on
from
for
direction
from
this
council.
E
Mr
mayor,
I
have
one
more
thing.
Sorry,
I
apologize
go
ahead.
If
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
municipal
code
allowing-
or
I
don't
know
if
it's
allowed
but
having
toilets
left
by
a
contractor,
they
should
be
removed
every
day.
E
They
they
do
make
them
with
wheels
they're
on
a
trailer
and
they
should
be
removed
every
day
they
shouldn't
be
allowed
overnight.
They
shouldn't
be
loud
over
the
weekends
which
which
shouldn't
take
that
hard
to
to
make
that
change.
But
if
we're
going
to
do
some
changes
related
to
construction,
I
think
that
would
be
important.
B
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
B
That
we
had
majority
council
support
to
move
forward.
I
believe
we
do,
but
I
just
want
to
confirm
that,
but
with
regard
to
the
latest
item
that
council
member
medina
brought
up,
I
think
we
need
to
do
significantly
additional
further
research
on
that
absolutely
true.
They
do
make
portable
toilets
on
trailers.
B
My
experience
is
that
cities
do
allow
those
to
be
outside
of
job
sites,
and
it's.
B
Major
construction
companies-
that's
a
requirement
for
for
for
homeowners
at
times
and-
and
I
I
know
that
sometimes
homeowners,
certainly
during
covet
19,
had
had
work
done
and
actually
decided
to
invest
in
a
porta
potty
because
it
avoided
having
people
come
into
their
home
and
so
while
well,
you
know,
I
know
we're
thinking
of
large
con
large
contractors
and
big
projects,
but
it
may
have
an
unintended
time
consequence
if
we
have
a
blanket
rule
that
requires
port-a-potties
for
construction
sites
to
be
removed
every
day.
E
If
I
can
clarify
city
manager
grogan,
yes,
it's
not
for
like
construction
sites.
This
is
for
when
a
contractor
brings
a
porta,
potty
and
sometimes
they're
on
wheels.
Sometimes
they
put
it
on
the
corner,
but
they're
not
allowed
to
be
on
the
corner
and
just
need
to
make
sure
we
specify
that
if,
when
you
are
required,
because
you
are
required
for
mosha
to
have
toilet
facilities
along
the
construction
site,
that
it
has
to
be
removed
every
day,
so
I'll,
let
staff!
That's
my
that's
my
feedback.
You
heard
it
from
a
resident.
A
A
B
So
directed
we'll
do
and
we
will
also
look
into
the
the
issue
of.
B
Toilets
that
are
located
at
job
sites
and
how
that
can
can
how
those
rules
apply
uniformly
to
construction
sites
and
contractors
and
homeowners
and
et
cetera.
E
Well,
listen
to
the
public
right
of
way
is.
It
is
a
more
defined
piece
that
I'm
interested
in
at
a
construction
site.
They're
always
required
they're,
always
there,
but
if
you're
bringing
a
toilet
and
you're
gonna
leave
it
in
front
of
somebody's
house
over
the
weekend
that
shouldn't
be
allowed,
you
brought
it
there
on
wheels.
You
should
remove
it
every
every
every
time.
So
it's
not
it's
not
as
big
as
of
a
request
as
it
sounds
like
is
being
understood.
C
Through
the
mayor,
yes,
if
I
can
help
clarify
marty,
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
that
portable
toilets
cannot
be
left
in
the
public
should
not
be
left
in
the
public
right-of-way
overnight
or
on
the
weekends,
and
when
you
talk
about
removing
them,
you're,
not
talking
about
taking
them
out
of
san
bruno
you're,
talking
about
putting
them
behind
the
fence
in
the
construction
site,
you're
on
your
own
you're
on
you,
I'm
sorry
you're,
absolutely
correct!
Okay,
because
even
I
didn't
understand
that
okay,
I
apologize.
A
No,
it's
all
right.
Okay,
thanks
could
be
the
hour.
Thank
you
tom.
I
mean
thank
you.
Councilmember
hamilton,
okay
city
manager.
I
think
you
have
the
direction
and.