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From YouTube: San Bruno Special City Council Meeting April 21, 2021 4a. Greening and Landscaping of Downtown
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San Bruno Special City Council Meeting April 21, 2021
4a. Greening and Landscaping of Downtown
A
So
we
will
now
get
into
our
study
sessions.
We
have
two
items
this
evening.
The
first
one
is
receive
a
presentation
and
provide
direction
regarding
greenery
and
landscaping
of
downtown
streetscape,
centennial,
plaza
and
posey
park,
and
first
we'll
turn
it
over
to
our
city
manager.
Who
then
also
we
will
have
our
community
services
director
also
participating
as
well.
B
Good
afternoon
council
members
of
the
public
javon
grogan
city
manager,
so
we
are
here.
B
D
B
I
know
that
similar
to
the
public
comment
that
we
just
heard
the
the
question
is
really:
what
can
we
do
because
everyone
has
a
vision
and
everyone
wants
to
improve
our
downtown,
and
we
know
that
it's
a
multi-year
multi-prong
effort,
there's
a
there's,
a
quick
win
project
in
here
and
then
there's
taking
our
conceptual
plan,
which
is
a
30
000
street
streetscape
plan
down
to
the
block
level
and
making
progress
on
that
which,
unfortunately,
we
didn't
make
progress
on
last
fiscal
year,
and
so
we
did
the
plan
in
2019.
B
And
so
now
we
want
to
take
that
down
to
the
block
by
block
schematic
design
level.
And
so
that's
what
we'll
be
talking
about,
as
well
as
a
quick
win
for
centennial
plaza
and
then
really
wanting
to
provide
you
with
some
rich
information
and
find
a
direction
for
where
we
want
to
go
with
pulsey
park.
So
with.
B
E
Try
all
right,
let's
get
to
slideshow
so
yeah,
I'm
anne
montola,
your
community
services
director
in
this
evening.
I'm
really
pleased
to
present
several
projects
from
the
conceptual
downtown
streetscape
plan
for
your
consideration
and
tonight
we're
specifically
talking
about
products
that
are
related
to
landscape
and
parks.
E
As
you
recall,
in
october,
2019
council
adopted
a
conceptual
downtown
street
state
plan
and
there
were
a
number
of
recommended
improvements
to
activate
public
spaces
to
green
the
downtown,
with
trees
and
plantings,
update
amenities
provide
wayfinding.
The
intention
of
all
these
different
elements
was
to
create
a
cohesive
and
unique
downtown
identity.
E
E
Plan
included
restoration
of
trees
to
the
downtown
corridor,
and
this
some
of
the
images
that
you'll
see
are
taken
from
the
adopted
streetscape
plan,
so
you're
all
familiar
with
the
existing
conditions,
you're
familiar
with
the
plantings,
which
are
in
49
large
planters,
that
line
san
mateo
avenue
in
genevan,
the
planters
contained
a
mixed
variety
of
plants
and
trees.
They're
not
planted
really
in
a
manner
to
create
a
cohesive
design
or
planting
scheme,
and
they
don't
really
support
the
unique
identity,
which
was
one
of
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
straightscape
plan.
E
Some
of
our
planters
have
trees
and,
as
you
can
see,
they're
not
faring
so
well,
maybe,
except
for
the
one
in
front
of
grand
leader,
and
I
have
no
idea
what
mike
is
feeding
it.
But
that's
like
the
only
tree
that
is
that
robust
on
the
avenue,
and
so
what
we're
finding
in
the
planners
is
a
restriction
of
the
root
ball.
That's
causing
many
of
the
trees
to
fail
and
those
that
are
surviving.
With
the
exception
of
the
100
grand
leader
really
are
not
thriving.
E
That's
why
you
see
that
not
all
of
the
planters
are
activated
they're,
really
trying
to
see
what
will
grow,
what
will
thrive
and
then
they
want
to
grow
on
success.
So
the
images
in
this
slide
show
a
number
of
our
different,
successful
results.
So
in
the
upper
left,
there's
lavender
and
red
lantana,
it's
a
little
overgrown
at
some
of
the
older
plantings
that
we
have
the
right
hand
planted
with
the
tree.
It's
a
newer
planting.
We
knew
that
lavender
and
lantana
do
well.
E
E
E
E
In
the
conceptual
streetscape
plan,
the
installation
is
actually
called
out
in
bulb
outs,
similar
to
what
you
see
on
the
right
in
burlingame,
sidewalk
aligned,
installation
with
tree
brakes
is
also
an
option.
The
photo
on
the
left
is
from
millbrae.
F
E
Opportunity
to
layer,
landscaping,
elements
with
grade
level
plantings,
and
I
wanted
to
show
you
an
example
of
this
in
burlingame.
These
are
examples
of
plantings,
incorporated
into
stormwater
retention
areas,
and
what
you
can
see
is
it
adds
color
and
it's
bringing
and
it's
actually
a
purposeful
installation
as
well.
E
E
It's
somewhat
similar
to
what
we've
had
to
do
with
the
rack,
build
the
project
started
out
in
conceptual
design,
very
similar
to
the
streetscape
conceptual
plan,
so
the
schematic
design
moves
those
concepts
to
real
application
based
on
findings
of
site
and
environmental
constraints
and
conditions.
E
As
I
mentioned,
the
most
important
technical
issue
to
address
is
what's
happening
below
the
surface,
with
the
stormwater
pipeline
and
culvert
that
exists
in
the
area
and
the
additional
scope
is
listed
here,
and
it
includes
utility
research,
landscape,
design,
topographic,
site
surveys,
stormwater
management
plans,
review,
geotech
reports,
it's
very
it's
a
highly
technical
body
of
work,
and
so
we
need
to
bring
that
expertise
because
it
doesn't
currently
exist
in
our
city.
E
So
starting
with
centennial
plaza,
we
all
familiar.
We
are
all
familiar
with
the
location
in
this
image
here,
so
I
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
the
plan,
view
and
kind
of
walk
you
through
what
is
existing,
so
the
plantings
from
this
I'm
going
to
go
from
cinema
tapes,
san
mateo,
avenue,
heading
east,
so
the
plantings
that
from
san
mateo,
avenue,
they're
rather
low
and
rather
sparse.
The
illustration
actually
makes
them
look
a
little
bit
more
colorful
and
robust
than
what's
there.
E
The
area
surrounding
the
fountain
is
relatively
level,
but
it
slopes
down
towards
the
right
towards
the
east
end
of
the
parcel
so
that
central
planting
area
that
you
see
it
serves
more
as
a
barrier
to
keep
pedestrians
from
gaining
access
to
the
unleveled
portion
of
the
site.
And
while
there
are
elements
like
the
fountain
that
try
to
add
some
visual
interest,
the
existing
closet
is
currently
not
a
program
space
and
that's
the
challenge.
We
really
want
to
improve
the
plaza,
so
people
use
it.
E
It
becomes
activated,
and
so
staff
has
worked
on
a
plan
which
we
believe
that
we
could
execute
in
in
a
relatively
short
timeline,
a
relatively
low
budget
and
in
a
good
timeline,
and
the
intention
was
to
make
this
a
place
which
was
more
usable,
a
place
where
people
actually
kind
of
spend
time
in
the
park
so
again
going
from
san
mateo
avenue,
east
plantings
on
san
mateo
avenue
side
right
at
that
entry.
We
want
to
do
something
that
marks
that
this
is
an
entry
and
in.
E
Just
because
it's
smackdown
in
the
middle
of
what's
the
entryway
to
the
park,
the
air
surrounding
the
planter
would
be
renovated
with
new
river
rock
and
an
improved
dg
path.
Marine
elements
include
the
addition
of
several
trees.
E
When
you
see
the
planting
in
the
middle
it's
thinned
out
and
that
arc
is
a
retaining
wall,
so
everything
to
the
east
of
it,
we
can
level
out
and
then
create
more
usable
space
there,
and
then
you
see
tables,
and
so
the
idea
is
there's
been
certainly
an
upsurgence
of
eating
outdoors.
We
really
want
to
encourage
people
to
come
down
to
this.
Our
downtown
has
like
an
amazing
assortment
of
restaurants,
and
this
is
a
really
perfect
space
for
people
to
come
into
congregate
and
to
really
have
this.
E
A
usable,
active,
vibrant
space
in
the
lower
right
hand,
part
of
the
picture
you'll
see
kind
of
a
gazebo
and
depending
on
a
partner
restaurant,
it
could
be
something
which
they
want
to
install
here.
So
they
have
a
dedicated
space
to
send
their
patrons.
E
E
Moving
on
to
posey
park,
so
we've
been
spending
quite
quite
a
bit
of
time
over
here
at
this
park,
trying
to
evaluate
slight
challenges
and
alternatives
to
the
space
again
to
kind
of
make
it
a
little
bit
more
vibrant,
a
little
bit
more
usable,
so
a
little
bit
of
history,
for
I
think
many
of
you
know
this,
but
if
there
are
people
that
are
watching,
they
may
not
know
that
the
fountain
was
turned
off
four
to
five
years
ago,
due
to
failure
of
the
waterproofing
of
the
structure
as
well
as
failure
of
the
structure
itself.
E
If
you
were
to
go
and
look
in
the
basins
and
and
look
at
the
fountain
structure,
you'll
see
exposed
rebar,
spelling
of
the
concrete
and
the
waterproofing
seal
coat,
which
is
almost
on
the
entire
structure
that
you
see
in
this
picture.
It's
peeling
and
flaking
off.
It's
a
very
significant
failure
of
that
coating.
E
Also,
there
was
a
leak
that
was
found
and
so
staff
has
been
gone.
We've
gone
through
different
processes
of
elimination
to
investigate
the
source
of
the
league,
and
so
we
have
the
fountain
people
that
work
with
the
fountain
plumbing
water
department
and
leak
detection
to
come
out
and
what
we,
the
good
news,
is
that
the
fountain
plumbing
is
intact.
E
So
we
know
that
that
water
system
is
a
good,
viable
option
or
some
of
the
options
that
we're
going
to
talk
about,
but
the
structural
sealant
is
in
such
disrepair
that
that's
where
we
are
being
advised
that
the
leaks
are
coming
from.
E
Here
we
go
in
the.
E
Option
they're
gonna,
be
five
options
totals
and
these
first
four
options,
reuse,
the
existing
infrastructure
and
there's
a
price
range
on
each
of
these
options.
It's
a
back
of
the
napkin
type
of
estimate
and
every
one
of
them
would
include
the
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
to
repair
the
actual
structure
that
you
see
there.
So
we're.
E
Starting
with
85,
as
kind
of
the
the
minimum
amount
to
actually
just
restore
this
to
a
working
closet
with
a
fountain,
so
that's
option
number
one
option
number
two
restores
the
fountain,
but
also
does
something
with
the
fountain
itself
to
add
more
interest
to
the
plaza
by
by
including
some
more
murals
along
the
actual
structure
of
the
fountain.
E
If
you
were
to
go
to
the
plaza,
it's
very
stark,
it's
very
monochromatic.
E
I
think,
there's
success
in
breaking
that
up
with
the
mosaic
murals
that
are
there,
and
so
the
idea
is,
if
you
kind
of
restore
the
fountains
and
have
the
murals,
it
becomes
more
of
an
interest
in
the
space
and
so
depending
on
the
materials
used
and
the
surface
here
of
coverage
of
a
mural
that
could
that
alone
could
be
upwards
of
you
know,
200
000,
so
we
have
an
estimate
of
285
000
for
that
option.
E
Three
restores
the
fountain
and
adds
landscaping,
restores
the
fountain
surfacing
and
then
adds
landscaping
to
the
lower
basins
and
it's
a
it's
a
fairly
significant
price
tag
for
not
a
lot
of
space
because
the
basins
are
only
18
inches.
So,
in
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
and
bringing
in
people
to
kind
of
give
us
guesstimates
and
whatnot
there
may
be,
we
may
need
to
do
some
excavation
of
the
concrete
to
give
us
more
depth.
So
there's
more
success
of
any
plantings
that
we
put
there
an
option.
E
Option
five
is
to
take
a
note
from
the
streetscape
plan
and
to
kind
of
revisualize
and
renovate
the
entire
plaza.
This
is
more
of
intentional
placemaking
to
include
elements
that
engage
people
to
encourage
them
to
spend
more
time
there,
rather
than
just
be
more
of
a
pass
through
caltrain
plaza,
where
they
just
kind
of
go
on
their
way
to
the
training
platform.
E
So
there's
no
funding
currently
identified
this,
but
for
this
project,
but
we
have
applied
for
we
put
an
appropriations
request
for
the
transportation
housing
urban
development
appropriations
through
congresswoman
spears
office
for
half
a
million
dollars
that
would
either
take
care
of
options
one
through
four
or
at
least
get
us
through
the
design
phase
of
a
complete
renovation
of
the
park.
E
So
the
next
steps
for
cozy
park
would
be
to
identify
funding
options
and
then
based
on
the
option
that
was
of
the
interest
of
the
council
to
direct
staff
to
proceed.
E
So
at
this
point,
we're
looking
for
direction
on
the
greening
and
landscaping
the
implementation
plan
for
centennial
direction
on
cozy
park
and
direction
on
on-call
landscape,
architectural
services.
That
would
really
give
great
assistance
to
execute
all
of
these
different
elements.
And
that
concludes
my
presentation.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
at
this
time.
If
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
that
wish
to
speak
on
this
topic,
now
would
be
the
time
if
you
could
please
to
raise
the
virtual
hand
and
again
keeping
it
to
the
items
that
were
presented
that
you
just
saw
a
moment
ago
and
city
clerk.
If
you
and
then
we
will
come
back
to
council
for
discussion,
I'm
sorry
questions,
discussions
and
direction.
City
clerk.
If
we
can
call
on
the
public.
E
First
is
steven
seymour
or
sandra
perez
vargas.
Just
one
moment.
F
F
I
would
ask
her
to
help
design
all
the
city
presentations,
because
it
was
succinct
and
it
wasn't
too
long.
It
wasn't
overwhelming,
but
it
was
very
her
ask
is
very
clear
for
the
posey
park.
F
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
also
say
that
I
think
that
the
council
should
look
deep
in
funding
all
of
what
she
put
up
there.
I
think
these
are
the
steps
that
are
needed
to
create
an
environment
that
invites
the
kind
of
business
businesses
that
we
want
on
the
avenue,
and
I
would
hate
to
see
us
cut
this
short
because
we're
talking
about
history
and
the
future
of
what
our
downtown
looks
like
and
we
all
know-
we've
been
anyone.
F
Who's
lived
here
for
any
length
of
time
at
all
knows
that
the
public
wants
to
see
a
more
vibrant
downtown.
So
I'd
like
to
say
that
I'd
also
like
to
say
kind
of
piggyback
on
a
little
bit
to
what
saunders
said
earlier,
we've
been
asking
for
code
enforcement
and
some
attention
from
city
for
a
long
time
down
the
avenue,
and
I
really
think
this
is
the
right
time
to
do
it
mix
it
in
it.
It'll
help
prepare
us
for
the
changes
that
are
coming.
F
I
would
hate
to
see
the
same
kind
of
code
violations
that
exist
on
the
avenue
today
after
we've
spent
two
to
five
million
dollars
to
improve
the
street,
it
kind
of
would
be
for
naught,
and
I
really
think
we
have
the
momentum
right
now
to
take
some
actions
that
the
public's
been
asking
for
for
8,
9,
10,
12,
15,
20
years
or
more.
F
I
think
you
should
think
long
and
hard,
though
about
putting
up
benches
tables
and
benches
just
because
the
benches
invite
people
to
to
lay
on
them
it's
more
of
those
chair
things
that
need
to
go
up,
but
I'm
sure
that
the
whoever's
designing
this
will
will
be
able
to
lead
you
the
right
direction.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
We
have
our
final
speaker
when
you're
ready
city
clerk.
E
Yes,
nancy
foreman,
just
one
moment
nancy.
While
I
bring
you
in.
A
E
A
A
Thank
you
for
your
comments
and
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
speakers,
so
we
will
end
with
the
public
comments
on
this
topic
and
where
there
was
a
question
which
was
in
regards
to
the
fountain
and
obviously,
we've
had
a
little
wind
in
san
bruno
and
so,
if
that's
still
viable,
or
that
there
was
not
an
option
in
regards
to
not
having
a
fountain
staff.
Have
any
comments
on
that.
B
Yes,
it
was
I've
seen
three.
I
believe
that
was
the
option
to
turn
the
fountains
into
planets,
and
it
is
a
very
appropriate
point
questioning
should
we
be
reactivating
the
fountains
not
just
because
of
the
wind,
but
also
because
of
the
drought.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Now
we
have
them
in
my
colleagues
three
areas
and
maybe
we
can
take
each
area,
so
we
don't
keep
going
all
around.
Why
don't
we
start
with
the
greening
and
landscaping?
So
we'll
start
with
that,
one
for
questions
on
the
presentation
to
staff
for
so
questions
your
direction,
not
your
commentary.
Just
any
questions
on
that
topic.
Colleagues,.
A
And
we
have
council
member
hamilton,
please.
H
So
I
also
want
to
thank
thank
ann
for
a
great
presentation,
very,
very
clear
and
thank
all
staff
for
working
on
this
and
bringing
this
to
us.
Everybody
knows
that
this
is
that
this
is
a
something
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
and
I'm
very
very
pleased
that
we're
talking
about
it.
H
One
comment
that
I
have
on
the
on
the
the
greening
of
downtown:
I,
where,
when
that
effort
to
identify
appropriate
trees
for
planting
one
thing
I
didn't
see
in
the
in
the
notes
that
I
think
we
should
take
into
consideration
would
be
to
identify
tree
species
that,
when
they're
mature,
have
a
high
canopy
so
that
we
don't
obstruct
the
storefronts
so
like,
for
example,
in
that
group
that
great
picture
in
front
of
grand
leader
of
the
one
healthy
tree.
H
You
can't
tell
if
the
grand
leader,
unless
you
know,
because
the
sign
is
completely
obscured
by
the
healthy
tree,
and
it's
not
the
tree's
fault,
it's
just
how
that's
how
it's
going
to
grow
when
it's
in
the
pot.
So
the
that's,
that's
something
I
think
we
should
that
we
should
look
at.
You
know
the
the
the
height
of
at
maturity
and
how
the
how
the
canopy
forms
on
the
particular
species
that
we
that
we
identified,
I'm
very
very
supportive
of
of
the
the
direction
to
start
moving
on
this
for
trees.
A
Thank
you
vice
mayor
medina.
D
Yes,
thank
you
staff.
Thank
you,
anne.
It
was
a
pleasure
meeting
you
yesterday
downtown.
I
think
that
was
yesterday.
Mr
mayor
was
that
yesterday,
mr
mayor,
yes,
so,
and
it's
great
that
you're
there
to
see
it.
D
It's
been
a
long
long
overdue
amount
of
attention
has
been
given
to
our
downtown
interesting
enough.
D
Last
night
at
the
san
bruno
community
foundation,
downtown
was
the
number
one
item
that
was
brought
forward
from
the
community
survey
that
was
given
of
the
community's
interest
in
seeing
improvement
there
easily
hands
down,
I
think
was
280
comments
and
the
closest
one
behind
it
was
at
least
100
behind.
D
D
I
understand
that
there
are
some
issues
with
culverts,
but
the
culverts
start
north
of
genevan,
mid
block
and
so
on,
genoven
from
the
storm
water
master
plan.
There
are
no
culverts,
so
we
could
easily
put
trees
in
the
ground
there.
D
I
totally
understand,
and
and
I'm
in
favor
of
hiring
that
landscape
architect
on
call
to
address
the
many
needs
that
are
downtown,
but
in
this
first
part
determining
what
species
with
with
the
wind
microclimates
all
that
getting
getting
a
professional
to
give
us
some
guidance
on
that
is
is
most
important.
D
D
D
It's
a
it's
an
interest.
Interesting
word:
choice:
cohesive
our
downtown,
isn't
cohesive.
Is
it
eclectic
funky,
different
eras
of
architecture?
I
mean
I
would
quit
using
the
word
cohesive
because
it
doesn't
fit
our
downtown.
It
is
its
own
eclectic
vibe
there
with
with
the
variety
the
with
the
diversity
but
nonetheless
250
000
in
design.
D
I
would
like
to
see
that
broken
down
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
think
we
need
this
landscape
architect
to
be
involved
with
centennial
plaza
for
the
selection
of
those
plants
of
those
trees
and
in
posey
park,
but
I
don't
want
to
jump
too
far
ahead.
So
I'll
leave
those
comments
there
and
once
again,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
A
Any
other
colleagues
in
regards
to
the
greening
and
landscaping
topic
that
was
brought
up
also
mason.
C
Okay,
so
for
the
greening
and
landscaping
concept,
I
was
just
wondering
what
what
the
cost
is
there,
like
a
a
scale
of
cost
that
we're
looking
at
as
well,
and
then
I
wanted
to
ask
when
you're
looking
at
what
exactly
is
going
to
be
planted?
I
know
that
one
of
the
issues
I've
heard
has
been
like
a
broken
pipe
of
some
sort
for
the
pots
that
are
existing.
C
So
is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
to
make
sure
the
plants
are
drought,
tolerant,
so
that
the
beauty
of
the
plants
are
not
reliant
on
water
and
then
are
we
also
looking
at
the
maintenance
of
whatever
it
is
that
we
are
going
to
plan?
We
have
been
really
short
staffed.
We
don't
know
if
that,
how
long
that's
going
to
last,
what
are
what
is
staff
looking
at
to
ensure
that
the
maintenance
is
minimal.
A
City
manager
or
director
would
anyone
like
to
comment
on
the
last
questions?
Please.
E
E
One
of
your
first
questions
was
the
overall
cost.
That's
actually
one
of
the
that's
within
the
scope
of
what
we
need
a
landscape
architect
to
help
us
with,
because
again
until
we
know
what
we're
dealing
with,
we
really
can't
estimate
the
cost.
So
I
don't
mean
to
be
big
or
dodge
that,
but
that's
the
reality
of
that
situation
as
far
as
and
as
far
as
the
the
toddler
plants,
sustainable
maintenance.
E
C
E
E
B
C
What
was
that?
That's?
Actually
that
answers
it
the
broken.
Well,
I
mean
that
would
be
an
additional
question
that
mayor
medina,
I
think,
is
a
good
point
is:
is
there
a
cost
associated
or
are
we
interested
in
fixing
that
pipe?
But
my
intention
of
my
other
question
was
just
to
make
sure
that
it's
drought,
tolerant
whatever
it
is
that
we
get,
but
I
think
that's
a
good
question,
because
my
understanding
is
that
that's
one
of
the
reasons
there's
been
a
delay
just.
B
Back
into
that,
I
think
connected
to
that
question
was
marty's
question
about
the
design
build,
and
so
the
250
000
is
really
our
best
professional
guess
on
what
it
would
cost
to
do.
The
schematic
designs
now
we're
gonna
have
to
do
an
rfp
and
get
bids,
and
so
we'll
hone
in
on
that
number.
But
right
now
this
project
is
not
funded,
so
we're
not
able
to
break
down
the
cost.
B
We
will
once
we
we
get
bids
from
landscape
designers
in
regards
to
the
design,
build,
that's
another
contracting
layer
and
we
would
need
to
add
additional
funds
to
the
project
if
we're
going
to
design
build,
because
we
wouldn't
want
to
use
some
of
our
design
money
to
do
installation.
So
some
council
want
to
look
at
that.
I
think
we
we
should
take
that
on
after
we
get
the
architect
on
board
and
get
a
better
estimation
upon
how
that
relationship
will
work
and
exactly
how.
C
Much
money
we
need
to
add
so
then
on
this
pr
in
this
particular
portion
of
the
I
guess:
presentation
I'll
call
it
just
so
that
I'm
clear
what
is
it
that
you
are
requesting
of
us
to
direct
to
direct
staff
on.
B
B
We
are
currently
in
the
process
of
our
budget
development,
so
I
do
not
know
that
we'll
have
general
fund
money,
and
so
we
may
be
looking
for
other
types
of
funds
to
fund
that
from
potentially
measure
g
potentially
other
funds,
but
as
we're
developing
the
budget.
If
this
is
a
prior
priority
of
the
council,
that
is
the
next
step
is
to
actually
put
some
money
behind
this
project
and
try
and
fund
it
in
the
2122
budget.
C
Okay
and
just
confirming
we
don't
have
any
landscape
architects
in-house
correct
that.
I
know
of
no.
C
Okay,
great
and
I'm
just
a
thank
you
to
director
mattola.
I
know
you're
fairly,
new
and
you've
really
jumped
into
this
and
a
number
of
meetings
I've
been
on
with
you,
so
I
really
appreciate
the
quick
turnaround
on
on
some
of
these
requests
and
just
moving
so
so
quickly
since
you
got
in
so.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
Okay,
next
is
the
vice
mayor,
but
vice
mayor
council,
member
salazar
hasn't
had
an
opportunity,
I'm
like
to
call
on
him
next,
council
member
salazar.
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
add
my
thanks
to
staff
for
for
bringing
this
next
step
a
while
back.
It's
been,
it's
been
a
while
now,
since
we
approved
first
funding
the
streetscape
plan,
so
that
was
a
few
years
back
and
there
were
concerns
back
then
that
you
know
we
were
going
to
spend
money
on
the
plan
and
then
it
would
just
sit
on
a
shelf
and
it
would
never
move
anywhere.
G
So
I
definitely
appreciate
staff's
efforts
to
sort
of
keep
some
momentum
behind
that
we
have
the
plan
in
place
and
so
seeing
this
come
back
to
us
in
an
incremental,
an
incremental
format.
I
think
definitely
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
prioritize
and
look
at
things
that
are
going
to
have
an
immediate
impact,
and
so
I
don't
have
any
specifics,
specific
questions
about
the
greeting
and
landscaping,
but
given
all
of
the
other
things
that
we're
looking
at
in
this
presentation,
I
would
say
that
this
is
probably
the
biggest
bang
for
the
buck.
G
Out
of
all
of
these.
It's
a
you
know,
price
tag
that
looks
reasonable,
something
that
we
could
definitely
work
into
a
budget.
If
we
could
get
additional
funding
from
the
outside,
it
would
definitely
make
this
very,
very
doable,
and
I
think
it
would
have
a
huge,
huge
impact
on
on
the
appearance
of
downtown.
So
out
of
all
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at,
I
think
this
is
one
that
we
definitely
want
to
prioritize.
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
had
a
couple
other
questions
that
I
didn't
ask
earlier
of
the
planters
that
are
currently,
I
guess
the
pots
there,
how
many
of
them
have
a
functioning
irrigation
system.
D
E
D
E
I
don't
know
that
they've
determined
it
yet.
So
my
understanding
is
there's
the
team
that
works
downtown
has
been
trying
all
the
different
plantings
they've
also
been
they've
repaired,
much
of
the
irrigation.
So
a
lot
of
the
issues
where
there
were
leaked
breakages
and
I
don't
know
that
they
determined
if
this
is
not
repairable
or
if
they
just
haven't
gotten
to
it.
Yet
I
can
find
out.
D
That
would
that
would
be
great
to
hear
back
on
that,
and
that
would
definitely
be
important
for
our
our
landscape
architect
to
to
review,
and
I
also
wanted
to
thank
council
council
member,
linda
mason-
not
not
just
staff,
because
it's
my
understanding,
we
wouldn't
be
talking
about
it
today.
D
D
D
A
I
wants
know
if
staff
has,
but
are
you
I'm
sorry
vice
mayor?
Are
you
concluded.
D
D
A
Thank
you
and
city
manager.
When
you
respond
to
that.
Maybe
we
can
be
very
clear.
I
don't
want
to
mislead
or
not
mislead,
but
just
there
are
no
measure
k
funds
that
are
assigned
for
this,
as
the
city
manager
said
just
so,
people
think
like
okay,
well,
it's
paid
for.
So
what
are
we
waiting
on?
So
it
is
about
developing
the
budget,
bringing
it
forward
finding
the
revenue
source
it's
for
250
000
at
this
time,
but
city
managers
are
answering
the
vice
mayor.
A
B
Okay,
there's
a
lot
there.
Let's
try
and
unpack
it
first
question
is:
can
we
make
an
ask
of
the
community
foundation
to
fund
a
portion
of
this?
Certainly,
staff
can
have
those
conversations,
my
understanding
on
the
timing
of
where
we're
at
right
now
it
would
be
off
cycle.
B
The
council,
member
medina,
is
correct
that
they
did
have
a
town
called
just
yesterday
on
their
long-term
strategic
plan
and
they
reported
on
that
number
one
was
improving,
downtown,
so
pivoting
and
looking
at
a
strategic
grant
to
fund
a
portion
of
this
effort
is
something
that
we
can
have
conversations
with
them
about.
B
With
regard
to
the
three
million
dollars
for
111
san
bruno,
that
is
not
development,
impact
fees
that
is
park
and
luffy's
that
cannot
be
used
for
downtown.
That
may
potentially
be
able
to
be
used
for
closing
parts
and
centennial
plaza
question
mark
we're
still
looking
into
that.
With
regards
to
other
development
impact
fees,
it
is
unclear
right
now
if
we
have
development
impact
feed
revenue
that
can
be
used
for
greening
and
improving
the
streetscape
downtown.
B
I
know
that
that
question
is
out
there,
I'm
just
not
at
a
point
where
I
can
give
you
an
answer
on.
Are
there
development
impact
you
used
to
use
for
for
those
funds,
but
based
on
council
direction?
We
will
forthrightly
go
about
and
try
and
fund
this
effort,
or
these
efforts
should
we
should
we
receive
council
direction
to
do
so.
B
Lastly,
with
regard
to
what
will
250
000
provide,
that
is
our
best
estimate
on
what
it
would
cost
to
do.
The
professional
design
work
coming
from
conceptual
to
schematic
a
block
by
block
design,
looking
at
everything
that
anne
talked
about
what
type
of
plants
looking
at
the
infrastructure,
looking
at
exactly
where
how
large
etc.
B
F
B
Yesterday
we
will
absolutely
work
as
fast
as
we
can
and
but
I
think
we
all
agree
and
we've
talked
about
that,
designing
it
and
having
the
right
plan
is
important
for
the
long
run,
so
the
trees
grow
to
the
right
height
and
the
right
species
and
the
canopy
is
the
right
height
and
they're
drought,
tolerant
and
water.
They
would
maintain
and
then
they
survived,
and
so
that's
what
we're
talking
about
is
taking
that.
B
A
I
think
you
got
them
all
all
those
addressing
that
in
that
in
your
reply.
Thank
you.
So
what
I'm
hearing
from
all
of
us?
That's
and
I'm
gonna
talk
in
the
third
person,
including
myself,
but
that
we
are
all
in
favor
of
the
250
000
as
an
outline
for
the
greening
and
landscaping
do
I
do
I
have
that
correct
color?
D
Just
wanted
to
clarify
mr
mayor,
so
we
have.
This
is
a
this
is
of
the
250
000
measure
k
request.
D
D
A
B
Council
member
linda
mason
council
began
with
a
council
member
comment
to
improve,
posing
part
council
supported
that
the
concept
was
to
develop
plans
to
improve
posing
part,
so
there
could
be
a
request
to
the
county
and
our
county
supervisors
for
measure
case
funding
for
cozy
park.
B
The
250k
is
a
separate
effort
to
identify
to
hire
a
landscape
architect
to
design
a
greening
and
landscaping
plan
for
downtown
schematic
block
by
block
design.
We
need
to
find
funding
for
that
and
we've
talked
about
the
foundation.
We've
talked
about
other
possible
money
that
the
city
may
have
for
that.
B
So
it's
also
worth
noting
that
posey
park
came
up
because
of
the
request
from
councilmember
mason.
We
combined
this
study
session
to
talk
about
the
next
level
of
the
speech
streetscape
plan,
because
we've
been
talking
about
that
through
your
council
retreat
it's
a
strategic
initiative.
The
council
has
stated
that
we
really
want
to
make
progress
on
that.
We
did
not
make
progress
on
that
in
2020
due
to
covenant,
funding
and
and
other
things.
So
we
wanted
to
use
this
opportunity
to
come
to
you
and
say:
okay.
Well,
we
have
the
streetscape
plan.
B
We
know
it's
conceptual.
What
can
we
do
next
year?
Right?
It's
a
it's
a!
I
think,
over
a
5
million,
a
10
million
effort
to
improve
the
entire
streetscape.
B
We
don't
have
10
million
dollars,
but
what
can
we
do
next
year
and
that's
begin
with
the
granting
and
landscaping
plan?
The
other
item
of
making
improvements
to
centennial
plaza
is
coming
to
you,
because
that
is
a
developed
as
a
staff
initiative
as
we're
walking
downtown,
as
we
see
that
there
needs
to
be
improvements
in
centennial
we're
talking
to
businesses
that
would
like
some
outside
dining,
and
we
begin
to
have
conversations
with
some
of
our
landscape
vendors
saying.
B
A
Okay,
vice
mayor
does
that
answer
that
and
then
you
had
a
follow-up
question.
D
Right,
I'm
really
glad
I
got
that
clarification,
so
thank
you
for
that
city
manager.
So
I
guess
I'm
I
can
wait
till
we
get
to
posey
park
so
we'll
go
ahead.
I
think
we
should
find
250
000
in
our
budget
to
proceed
with
this
landscaping
plant
green
landscaping
plant.
So,
okay,
so
I'm.
A
Satisfied,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
councilman
mason,
but
I
have
seen
a
verbal
or
head
nodding
thumb
up
all
of
five
of
us
in
concurrence.
Councilmember
mesa.
C
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
vice
mayor
medina
for
his
kind
words,
but
I
I
do
agree
with
c
manager
grogan
that
it
started
with
a
posey
park
and
the
conversation
expanded
from
there.
So
just
for
the
record,
but
it
was
vice
mayor
medina.
I
think
who
definitely
since
even
before
I
was
on
the
council,
has
really
been
pushing
for
the
greening
of
downtown.
So
I
am
hoping
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
find
a
way
to
make
all
three
of
these
possible
sooner
rather
than
later.
C
One
thing
I
do
want
to
ask
for
is
a
commitment
from
the
manager
or
the
city
manager
that
we
have
an
update
on
where
we
are
with
this
in
three
months.
So
if
the
landscape
architect
has
not
been
actually
procured
and
gotten
within
three
months
and
that
you
have
to
come
back
to
council
again
to
let
us
know,
because
we
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
these
are
that
this
particular
request
is
moving
forward
as
quickly
as
possible.
A
And
thank
you
for
your
comments,
city
manager.
I
know
I
think
you're
saying
you
would
work
it
into
the
budget.
We
don't
vote
on
the
budget
until
june.
You
have
to
find
the
money
there
so
in
essence
we're
in
april
so
may
june.
Then
it
hits
july
when
the
budget
goes
into
effect
july
1st.
So
in
essence
he
probably
won't
my
assumption.
The
manager
will
verify
would
not
have
been
prepared
by
july.
To
say
already.
I
think
I
could
say
today
it
would
not
be
prepared
by
july,
but
maybe.
B
You
will
not
be
able
to
enter
into
contract
until
there's
funding
as
we
sit
right
now
if
we're
able
to
fund
it
with
city
funds
that
will
come
to
you
in
the
proposed
budget.
You
will
take
action
in
june
and
the
money
will
be
available
july
1,
and
then
we
can
identify
and
enter
into
contract
with
the
vendor.
B
Do
it
sooner
if
the
money
becomes
available,
our
normal
process,
when
we
reach
out
to
vendors,
is
actually
to
have
a
funded
project
right
now,
we've
been
talking
to
a
lot
of
vendors,
getting
sort
of
what
would
this
cost,
but
if
we're
going
to
ask
for
formal
bids,
we
really
need
to
have
a
funded
project
because
they're
going
to
do
work
to
to
develop
bids
for
us,
and
we
need
to
know
that
we
have
the
money
to
move
forward
with
regard
to
reporting
back
on
progress,
I
do
think
that
that
is
something
this
everything
that
we're
talking
about
here
is
a
strategic
initiative
of
the
city
council,
and
I
I
do
think
that
that's
an
appropriate
conversation
that
we
can
have
at
our
saturday
retreat.
A
As
well
as
I
think
in
strategic
initiatives,
we
also
talked
about
twice
a
year
or
about
there
was
our
discussions
to
have
the
initiative
updates
right.
Where
are
we
at
how
much
percentage
are
we
25
through
50
just
so,
we
have
some
way
to
gauge
it
and
there's
a
lot
of
them.
So
some
some
kind
of
update,
I
think,
is
what
the
council
had
dialogued
about
than
just
once
a
year,
but
we
see
it,
you
know
maybe
at
least
twice
okay.
A
So
once
again,
I'm
going
to
reaffirm
that
on
the
greenery
and
landscaping
it
is
all
five
of
us
they're
saying
thank
you
to
the
director
for
her
presentation
and
getting
feedback
from
us.
We
appreciate
it,
and
so
is
to
direction,
is
to
go
ahead
with
that
city
manager.
Do
you
have
the
direction
needed
and
and
for
that.
B
B
I'm
sorry
I
said
yes
and
when
you're
ready,
we
should
do
centennial.
A
I
I've
got
that
down,
sir,
so
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
second
item
that
in
the
presentation
that
came
up
which
was
centennial
park
as
a
reminder,
as
you
saw
some
of
the
visual
and
it
was
for
80
000
and
the
really
quick
the
one
thing
is.
I
know
you
talked
about
the
time
capsule
as
you
as
folks.
All
may
know
it's.
A
If
you
looked
at
it,
it's
a
way
ahead
of
schedule
to
be
opened
at
this
time,
but
it
has
have
staff
reached
out
to
rotary
just
to
see,
since
they
kind
of
you
know
facilitated
that
funded.
That
has
anybody
reached
out
to
them
just
to
see
what
their
thought
is
or
if
or
are
you
waiting
for
us
for
direction.
B
To
for
direction,
but
we
would
certainly
contact
rotary
and,
as
we
move
forward
with
the
design,
come
up
with
an
appropriate
plan.
A
Perfect.
Thank
you
all
right,
colleagues
on
centennial
park
questions
clarifying
if
not
direction,.
D
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
centennial,
plaza
has
been
almost
every
time.
I
walk
past.
It
is,
is
has
seen
its
best
days
years
and
years
ago,
and
I'm
glad
I'm
glad
we're
we're
looking
at
something
there.
D
B
So
the
proposed
next
steps
is
that
we
would
strive
to
identify
funding
in
the
2021
budget
of
80
000.
So
we,
if
we
have
sufficient
general
fund
dollars,
we
will
propose
a
general
fund
or
we
will
look
at
other
other
plots
of
money.
But
one
idea
that
was
brought
up
tonight
that
we
are
looking
into
is
using
the
park
and
lutherans.
B
This
is
so
currently.
This
is
not
a
park,
it
is
a
close-off
area
and
I'm
not
sure
that
we
will
be
able
to
use
those
funds,
but
we
are.
We
are
looking
into
the
exact
verbiage
of
of
the
parking
loophole,
as
well
as
the
documents
surrounding
which
centennial
plaza
was
created
and
the
bank
was
purchased
in
this
plaza
development.
D
Got
it,
and,
and
mr
mayor,
the
this-
is
a
temporary
of
the
temporary
solution
that
that
we
have
there
right.
So
is
that
staff's
proposal
that
this
is
just
a
temporary.
D
Thing-
and
I
know
let
me
let
me
let
me
let
me
sorry
for
asking
the
questions
and
interrupting
so
fast,
but
in
the
streetscape
plan
there
was
a
little
bit
more
elaborate
and
so
they're
talking
about
have
a
stage,
an
additional
seating
and
it
was
really
going
to
be
a
a
programmable
space
like
a
really
and
when
I
look
when
I
think
of
that,
I
would
think
of
of
potentially
having
shakespeare
in
our
downtown
on
a
little
stage
or
maybe
having
some
people
play
music
on
on
that
stage.
D
So
I'm
okay
with
the
the
shorter
term,
because
it's
just
dreadful
there
right
now,
but
just
kind
of
wanted
to
to
hear
staff's
kind
of
views
on
on
how
far
we're
going
with
this.
B
So
this
was
intended
to
be
a
quick
win
project
to
activate
that
area,
open
it
up
for
both
plan
outdoor
dining
should
one
of
the
local
restaurants
like
to
utilize
that
space,
but
also
have
tables
for
where
people
can
take
their
take
out
and
do
outdoor
dining
there.
We
were
really
looking
for
a
quick
little
project,
sort
of
something
that
we
could
do,
but
the
plan
is
to
do
it
nice
enough,
where
it
can
stand
the
time
and
that
could
be
centennial
plaza.
Should
we
ever
have
funds
and
want
to
re-envision
it
absolutely.
B
The
streetscape
plan
included
things
like
that,
and
we
can.
We
can
look
at
have
any
more
programmed
space
there,
but
what
actually?
Why
don't?
I
turn
it
over
to
the
director
for
her
additional
thoughts.
E
E
Important
to
all
of
is
especially
being
downtown
now
and
getting
to
know
some
of
the
people
that
are
actually
working
there.
The
opportunity
to
have
a
rather
significant,
quick
win.
It's
really
important
and
you
can
tell
it's
really
important
to
the
community.
E
There
is
industry,
skate
planner,
I've
been
looking
at
the
different
options
and
it
was
really
a
lovely
activated
urban
park.
The
issue
is
that
the
ex
there's
your
significant
work,
it's
a
very
costly
proposition
to
be
able
to
transform
it
to
the
vision
in
the
streetscape
is
excavation
of
foundation.
That
remains
here
from
the
building
that
was
that
was
raised,
and
so
there's
the
cost
difference
to
wait
until
we
can
do
the
execution
to
that
plan
is
rather
substantial.
E
So
I
think
when
you
have
the
park
and
it's
activated-
and
it's
used
it
actually
it
will
it
again.
It
is
a
temporary
fix.
What
we're!
What
we're
putting
there
is
is
is
no
hardscape,
so
it's
actually
easily
removed.
Should
funding
become
available
for
us
to
do
the
greater
more
more
permanent
vision
of
the.
B
B
The
streetscape
plan
was
roughly
a
20
million
dollar
plan.
If
memory
serves
me
correctly,
it
was
almost
10
million
for
apartment,
plazas
and
10
million
for
the
streetscapes.
I'm
not
sure
that
it
was
a
granular
breakdown
on.
D
I'm
in
favor
of
of
some
activation
there,
but
we
for
80,
000
and
and
I'm
hesitating
because
I'm
thinking
about
our
downtown
I've
been
thinking
about
it
a
lot,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
effort
here.
It's
way
more,
that
was
been
done
for
years.
So
so
I
sincerely
thank
everybody
for
that.
D
D
We
need
to
be
able
to
kind
of
track.
These
things
provide
our
input.
I
understand
staff
really
busy.
These
subcommittees
don't
have
to
meet
with
staff
all
the
time,
but
I
think
it's
that
important
and
clearly
from
this
survey,
it's
what's
on
people's
minds
and-
and
I
think
the
council
should
be
more
involved
with
that
so
maybe
later
on
in
the
meeting.
But
I
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up
now
because
I
didn't
want
to
save
it
to
the
end.
D
So
so
please
don't
take
this
in
the
wrong
way,
but
I
think
I
think
our
our
community
really
really
wants
to
see
us
do
something
there
and
the
council
needs
to
be
more
involved.
So,
mr
mayor,
at
some
point
tonight
I
I
I
hope
that
you
can
consider
my
request
to
have
a
subcommittee
I'd
be
happy
to
serve
on
it,
but
I
don't
need
to
serve
on
it.
I'm
just
I
just
wanted.
D
A
And
what
I
would
probably
say,
the
city
attorney
will
say:
we
can't
form
or
appoint
anything
tonight.
It
was
not
on
the
agenda
and
then
vice
mayor.
Maybe
I
need
to
we
can
we
can
talk
and
walk
just
as
far
as
I'll
be
talking
about
these
topics?
Are
we
talking
about
subsequent
topics?
Just
so
because
I
know
staff
will
say
well
all
five
of
you
gave
direction,
but
now
two
of
you
no,
no.
I.
D
D
The
actual
scope
of
the
improvement
downtown
improvement.
What
you're
thinking?
Yes,
sir?
Okay,
I'm
good!
Thank
you.
A
All
right
thanks
marty
and
then
we
can
circle
back
with
the
city
manager,
councilmember
mason,.
C
Thank
you.
So
I
guess
I
want
to
compare
this
if
I
can
to
florida
park,
is
it
fair
to
say
that
my
interpretation
is
right?
There's
no
request
here
for
funding
to
get
consultants
to
create
a
new
plan.
C
This
is
really
a
request
for
direction
to
say
this
is
how
much
money
we
think
we
can
minimally
do
something
to
open
the
park
up
and
make
it
usable,
and
I
think,
if
that's
what
staff
is
asking
for,
then
I
definitely
support
it,
because
we
see
the
vast
difference
betw
of
florida
park
before
and
after
our
own
staff
got
involved
and
assisted
in
beautifying
it.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
accurate.
B
Yes,
councilmember
mason.
This
is
intended
to
be
a
quick
win
and
we
would
employ
the
services
of
a
landscape
contractor
that
can
do
the
work
with
minimal
direction
because
we're
not
we're
talking
about
plantings
and
decomposed,
granite
walkways
and
some
sort
of
a
portfolio.
B
So
real,
really
quick,
win
effort
without
sort
of
the
large-scale
design
field
aspect.
C
Okay
and
I
would
say,
given
the
cost,
if
I
don't,
I
don't
remember
off
top
of
my
head
whether
florida
park
went
to
budget
last
year
or
not,
but
if
it's
something
that
can
be
done
even
sooner
than
the
budget
cycle,
I
would
highly
encourage
and
support
that.
Thank
you.
H
Okay,
so
I
have,
I
am
also
supportive
of
of
this.
This
is
this
is
a
great
interim
long-term
interim,
I
guess,
is
a
good
way
to
put
it
solution
for
this
space.
H
I
would
like
to
see
us,
you
know
down
down
the
road,
come
back
to
do
a
more
permanent
grander
plan
once
we
have
funding
for
it,
but
this
is.
This
is
exactly
the
right
thing
to
do
now.
One
one
point
I
want
to
bring
up
and
I
purposely
waited
until
after
after
councilmember
mason
went
because
I
thought
she
would
bring
this
up
is:
can
we
make
a
plan
for
the
holiday
treat
you
know
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
have
a
tree
lighting
in
the
park?
H
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
place
for
it,
because
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
downtown,
you
would
see
it
when
you're
coming
down
genevin
and
that's
something
I
think
we
might
want
to
consider
for
to
build
into
the
design,
and
it
would
only
be
obviously
just
for
just
for
a
few
years
while
we,
while
the
rack,
is
being
constructed,
the
only
other
point
is,
and
I'm
really
getting
into
the
weeds.
H
But
this
is
the
we're
talking
about
we're
talking
about
it
as
part
of
the
work,
I
would
hope
that
we
also
be
able
to
find
a
better
solution
for
maintaining
the
water
level
in
the
fountain
than
what
is
there
today,
because
that's
not
good
and
a
little
embarrassing.
So
those
are
my.
Those
are
my
comments.
I'm
definitely
supportive
of
this.
G
Thank
you,
you
know
so
my
concern.
Every
time
we
talk
about,
centennial
plaza
is
just
you
know
what
is
the
longer
term
vision
for
that
section
of
downtown
and
when
that
building
was
acquired
many
many
many
years
ago,
I
don't
think
it
was
ever
intended
to
be
preserved
as
a
public
space.
It
was
sort
of
a
an
interim
step.
G
Like
we've
seen
at
both
of
the
anchor
points,
I
think
that
we
have
to
consider
that
as
still
the
longer
term
potential
for
this
property
and
what
we
intend
to
do
with
downtown
as
a
public
space,
I
think
strategically.
It's
it's
in
a
good
location,
and
so
that
is
the
direction
we
decide
to
go
in.
I
don't
think
it
would
necessarily
be
a
bad
decision,
but
I
don't
know
if
it
necessarily
plays
in
with
that
broader
vision
that
we
have
for
developing
downtown
and
having
a
little
pocket
park
in
the
middle
of
all.
G
That
may
not
be
the
best
use
of
it,
so
it
sounded.
You
know.
I
heard
the
the
response
to
marty's
questions
and
it
sounds
like
this
is
definitely
going
to
be
designed
as
a
as
a
temporary,
easily
removed
thing
so
that
when,
if
and
when
those
other
plans
do
materialize,
we'll
be
able
to
to
reprogram
that
and
put
it
back
into
something,
that's
more
usable
at
80
000.
It's
definitely
a
good
investment
in
making
that
area
look
nice
in
the
interim.
G
I
know
that
the
the
current
the
current
setup
there
was
done
practically
at
no
cost
done
by
city
staff,
very
minimal
cost,
because
it
was
an
empty
lot
that
the
city
owned,
and
so
it
was.
It
was
beautified
and
looked
really
nice
at
first.
It's
definitely
gotten
a
little
shabby
over
time,
and
so
maybe
an
investment
to
just
kind
of
keep
it
going
in.
The
interim
would
be
a
good
infusion.
A
Yeah
and
councilmember
salzberg
is
right
on
the
history
was
wells.
Fargo
said
he
purchased
it
to
have
skin
in
the
game
to
be
for
my
time,
but
it
was
to
say,
hey
we're
part
of
san
mateo
avenue,
so,
let's,
let's
be
on
it
together.
Then,
as
it
was
said,
the
wells
fargo
facility
came
down.
The
foundation
still
remains
so
you
would
have
to
go
underneath
for
something
of
more
permanency
and
that
in
council,
member
salazar
is
correct.
A
That
was
done
with
city
staff,
no
consultants,
no
outside
architects
or
design,
and
it
was
done
with
stuff
items
whether
it
was
the
fountain
trees
and
vegetation
that
we
already
had
in
house.
So
it
was
done
very
anomaly,
because
what
it
was
was
a
high
chain
link
fence
that
got
the
newspapers
against
it
with
the
winds
and
the
weeds
on
the
other
side
of
the
fence.
So
that's
what
it
was
for
time,
and
so
this
was
supposed
to
be
temporary,
and
so
it
is
from
redevelopment
is
how
we
acquired
it.
A
I
know
sometimes
my
understanding
could
be
incorrect,
but
there
are
some
rules
as
far
as
it
being
open
space
and
that
I
don't
know
if
we
could
erect
the
building,
but
they
talked
about
using
it
as
a
a
drive
through
into
the
back
parking
or
to.
As
the
council
members
said,
to
have
something
more
long
term,
and
I
see
vice
mayor
medina
and
then
council,
member
hamilton.
D
Switch
sorry,
I
just
got
a
call,
but
I
had
it.
Yes.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
I
mean
that's
really
really
important.
I
think
at
some
point
we
need
to
have
that
discussion
of
what
legally
we
we
are
bound
to
to
do
with
that
property
with
it
being
purchased
with
those
funds.
So
maybe,
when
do
we?
When
do
we
have
that
discussion
and
and
and
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
that
property
in
the
long
term?
And
maybe
that's
another
discussion
to
have
I'll
leave
that
with
the
city
manager?
Mr
mayor.
H
So
so
I
should
have.
I
should
have
framed
my
statement
about
the
holiday
treat
more
of
as
a
question
which
is:
is
it
would
it
be
feasible
to
do
a
it
would?
Obviously,
you
know
likely
be
an
artificial
tree,
because
we
would
want
to
use
it
for
for
three
to
four
years,
while
the
rack
is
being
constructed,
would
it
be
feasible
to
display
a
holiday
treat
in
in
centennial
plaza,
just
while
we're
just
while
the
the
the
park
is
under
construction,
and
we
likely
wouldn't
do
a
tree
lighting
in
the
park.
E
A
D
Yeah
I
I
wanted
to
express
my
support
for
that.
Of
course,
it
always
comes
down
to
money,
but
we
got
to
have
a
tree
lighting
somewhere
and
and
having
a
downtime
would
be
nice
for
a
change
right.
Okay,
we
got
thank
you.
A
Yeah,
well,
it's
not
going
to
be
on,
but
so
what
I'm
hearing-
and
I
want
to
reaffirm
that
for
the
80
000
as
kind
of
was
outlined
in
that
diagram-
is
that
there
is
concurrence.
Mr
hamilton
concurs
and
I
want
you
to
please
stop
me
and
correct
me.
Council,
member
mason
concurs
council
member
salazar
vice
mayor
medina,
I'll,
concur,
okay,
I've,
gotten
acknowledgments
and
favorable
from
all
five.
A
Let's
move
on
to
the
final
of
the
three
cozy
park
and,
as
you
know,
folks,
as
a
reminder,
it
had
from
various
options
from
85
000
up
to
2
million.
So
talk
about
what
to
ask
for
for
christmas
and
boy,
there
is
a
range
of
costs,
so
I
think
we,
you
saw
kind
of
the
various
options
with
the
option
ideas
be
best
to
be
brought
back
up
on
the
shared
screen
for
everybody
to
see
them
again.
A
A
Thank
you
and
I
think
everybody
knew
option.
Five
is
the
two
million
which
was
white
substance.
So
with
that
questions,
comments,
councilmember
mason.
C
So
thanks
for
putting
us
together
again,
our
city
manager
has
probably
been
hearing
about
this
all
year
on
our
one-on-one.
So
thank
you
javon.
I
I
guess
I
wanted
to
say
that
I,
like
number
four,
I'm
really
unclear
as
to
why
a
fountain
was
built
at
all.
C
I
think
just
about
every
city
is
going
away
from
fountains,
so
I
think
we
need
an
option
that
doesn't
include
a
fountain,
the
landscaping
we
need
obviously,
and
then
the
I
really
like
four,
because
it
has
the
expanded
mural
option
and
given
that
we
have-
and
I
don't
know
the
limitations
on
this-
but
I
think
between
a
tentative
measure-
k-
requests
that
that
I
confirmed
today
is
still
an
option
on
the
table.
C
I
definitely
think
we
have
some
viable
options
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
throw
in
there
that
council,
member
hamilton
and
I
were
walking
this
weekend
and
that's
how
the
holiday
tree
idea
came
up
and
I
was
actually
going
to
mention
it
for
this
park.
I've
gone
back
and
forth
with
centennial
park,
but
the
reason
that
I
would
like
to
highlight
it-
and
you
know
I
spoke
with
city
manager
grogan
about
this
last
year
during
covid
thinking.
Maybe
people
can
come
outside
with
their
masks
on,
but
it
was
the
pandemic.
C
It
really
could
liven
up
the
really
what's
the
beginning
of
our
downtown
beginning
or
end
depending
on
what
side
you're
you're
seeing
it.
So
I
have
already
submitted
that
request
as
part
of
our
strategic
planning
for
saturday.
So
I
don't
want
to
be
here
too
much,
but
I
would
support
option
four
and
either
for
a
holiday
tree,
but
I
do
like
this
one
just
because
of
the
caltrain
passing
by
here.
G
Thank
you,
you
know.
Actually
you
know
out
of
out
of
all
of
them.
It
really
seems
like.
Maybe
five
would
would
be
the
one
to
shoot
for
if
we're,
if
we
really
want
to
you
know,
do
something
with
that
area.
I
I
agree
with
linda
that
a
fountain
was
probably
a
bad
idea
when
we
decided
to
do
it
in
the
first
place,
and
so
spending
money
on
you
know
waterproofing
and
restoring
what
what's
going
to
be.
G
A
fountain
doesn't
seem
like
a
good
investment
of
money
to
me
and
it
sounds
like
any
of
these
options
are
going
to
require
us
basically
to
put
basically
throwing
good
money
after
bad
by
trying
to
repair
what's
what's
there,
so
I
really
don't
like
that
idea
of
having
to
you
know
sort
of
continue
building
on
that
on
a
poor
design
that
that
was
that
was
put
in
place.
G
So
you
know
I
I
think.
If
we're
going
to
do
it,
we
should
do
it
right,
I
think,
trying
to
fix.
What's
there
is
only
going
to
end
up
looking
kind
of
half
baked.
Definitely
don't
want
to
do
another
fountain
there.
If
we
do
the
planning
and
we
have
to
break
up
what's
there,
it
seems,
like
you
know,
we're
halfway
toward
this
other
thing,
so
I
realized
that
the
two
million
dollars
is
probably
well
beyond
what
we
had.
G
You
know
initially
started
scoping
and
it
puts
us
into
a
whole
different
ball
game,
but
you
know
I
I'm
not
crazy
about
any
of
those
other
options.
H
So
one
question-
and
I
may
have
known
this
at
one
point
and
I
apologize
so-
was
this:
the
fountains
and
the
current
design
of
the
park
designed
and
built
solely
by
the
city
of
san
bruno
or
in
partnership
with
caltrain
as
part
of
the
caltrain
station.
B
Unfortunately,
the
the
staff
members
that
are
here
do
not
have
the
history
to
answer
that
definitively
with
all
the
research
that
we've
done
in
seeing
the
various
designs
that
have
that
came
forward
to
the
city
and
options
presented
to
the
city
council.
I
think
the
best
answer
that
I
can
give
you
is
that
it
was
in
partnership,
because
I
know
in
looking
at
fire
staff
proportion
draft
versions
that
we
have,
that
there
were
several
models
that
were
talked.
A
I'm
sorry
councilmember
hamilton,
I'm
gonna
go
off
memory
and
that's
never
a
wise
thing
so
keep
it
with
that
is
for
all
council.
There
was
going
to
be
two
fountains.
First
of
all,
so
council
said:
let's,
let's
just
do
one.
There
was
going
to
be
one
on
the
on
the
east
side.
So
so
look
at
the
bright
side.
There's
one
fountain
not
too,
and
my
understanding
is
for
the
great
separation.
Most
all
of
it
was
funded
through
grants
that
were,
I
think,
up
to
2014.
A
There
was
over
100
million
that
was
paid
for
the
city
very
paid.
Almost
nothing.
The
only
thing
it
was
going
to
go
in
partnership
was
the
arch
which
became
astronomical
from
500
to
a
million
that
they
wanted
from
the
city
and
then
from
their
part,
and
we
said
stop
so
then,
when
the
punch
list
was
achieved,
then
it
was
being
turned
over
to
city.
To
maintain
that's
my
memory,
but
councilmember
salazar
may
be
maybe
remember
as
well.
So
so
I
remember
councilmember
hamilton
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
more
stupid.
H
H
Cool
thank
you
because
the
reason
that
I
ask
is
that
you
know
with
the
the
problems
that
are
happening
in
the
fountain,
that
that's
not
very
long.
It's
not
it's
not
that
old.
Considering
that
this
was
a
you
know,
a
municipal
structure
that
was
that
was
built,
and
I
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
any,
we
have
any
legal
resource
recourse
to
go
back
to
caltrain
for
some
help
on
taking
care
of
this
problem
financially.
H
And
I
don't
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
anything
that
we've
looked
at
or
considered
or
or
whatever,
but
because,
obviously
that
would
that
would
change
the
the
conversation
on
what
options
we
should
look
at
going
forward.
I
Sure
so
some
council
members
may
recall
that
this
was
the
subject
of
very
lengthy
and
difficult
negotiations
between
the
city
and
the
joint
powers
board.
That
spanned,
I
would
say,
a
variety
of
years.
I
I
So
the
the
result
of
of
that
was
a
settlement
agreement
many
years
ago
that
resolved
all
the
claims
in
exchange
for
a
variety
of
concessions
that
the
jpb
made.
But
the
bottom
line
is
there's
no
opportunity
now
for
additional
recourse
against
caltrain
or
jpp
with
respect
to
the
the
park.
I
Actually,
the
some
of
the
problems
with
fountain
were
were
evident
even
at
that
time
as
a
result
of
the
construction,
and
I
don't
have
well,
I
don't
have
the
settlement
agreement
in
front
of
me
and
can't
recall
all
of
the
all
the
details.
It
was
quite
a
while
ago.
In
any
event,
it
resolved
all
of
the
city's
claims
about
both
what
was
known
at
that
time
and
also
any
unknown
claims
that
that
might
have
already
accrued,
as
is
common
for.
Basically,
all
settlement
agreements.
H
Okay,
I
will
stop
beating
that
dead
horse.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome,
okay.
So
then,
looking
at
the
the
options
there,
I'm
also
not
in
favor
of
a
fountain.
H
I
think
I
agree
with
with
a
lot
of
with
everything
that
both
councilmember,
mason
and
councilmember's
house
are
said
about
the
fountain,
and
I
also
think
that
having
a
large
a
large
water
feature
running
in
the
sends
the
wrong
message,
given
our
propensity
for
a
drought
that
that's
not
going
to
go
away,
so
I
I
also
agree
with
with
council
member
salazar
that
option
five
would
be
the
best
thing
that
would
be
the
best
final
outcome.
H
What
I
worry
about,
though,
if
approving
option
five,
is
that,
because
there
isn't
a
pot
of
two
million
dollars
laying
around
to
to
fund
that,
then
nothing
would
happen
in
the
in
the
short
or
even
medium
term.
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
I
know
a
lot
of
what's
in
option.
Four
is
in
option
five
or
vice
versa,
and
is
there
a?
Is
there
a
way
to
proceed
with
option
four,
while
still
keeping
option
five
on
the
table
as
a
long-term
goal.
B
Sure
so
a
few
things
there
before
answering,
I
think
it's
worth
pointing
out
that
option
four
option.
B
Four
can
include
no
fountain
and
only
landscaping
and
murals,
and
so
just
wanna
point
that
out
is
there
a
way
to
proceed
with
option
four
and
still
proceed
with
option
five,
unfortunately,
not
because
it
would
essentially
be
a
waste
of
funds
to
do
the
restoration
of
the
fountain
and
the
waterproofing
where
option
five
is
really
re-envisioning,
the
entire
plaza,
which
means
the
demolition
of
that,
and
so
I
think
the
best
way
to
break
up
the
options
is
one
through
four
is
reusing.
The
existing
infrastructure
in
some
fashion,
founder,
no
fountain
option.
H
D
Clearly-
and
I
agree
with
all
the
council
members
about
there's
no
point
of
a
fountain
there
anymore-
and
my
suggestion
is
that
that,
as
we
revise
option
four
and
that
cost
would
go
down
in
option
four,
if,
if
we're
not
going
to
restore
the
structure-
and
this
is
the
opportunity
where
a
landscape
architect
could
really
help
us-
I
believe
I
heard
there
was
18
inches
of
depth
and
a
landscape
architect
could
tell
us
what
plants
would
thrive
there.
D
I'm
guessing
some
of
the
succulent
type,
that
really
don't
have
extensive
roots
and
they
really
don't
take
up
much
water
either,
and
I
think
they
really
do
well
here
in
san
bruno,
so
how
to
get
some
information
from
that
procured.
Service
murals
could
also
be
attached.
D
It
does
not
be
painted
on
on
the
str
on
the
actual
wall.
It
could
be
on
wood
or
other
media
and
then
adhered
to
the
or
bolted
to
the
walls
there,
just
so
that
it
doesn't
look
so
bland
and
so
nasty
so
and
then,
when
it
comes
down
to
option
five
yeah,
that's
that's
always
the
great
thing
to
have
to
have
a
brand
new
park
with
all
those
great
bells
and
whistles,
but
we
we
have
a
serious
financial
difficulty
doing
a
lot
of
things.
D
So
if
we
can
get
grants,
of
course,
yeah
and
and
how
much
and
then
again
where's
that
money
gonna
come
from
of
grants
could
pay
so
much
and
we
need
to
put
our
part
and
our
city
has
so
many
needs.
I
I
think
staff
could
come
back
with
some
refinement
on
on
those
costs
and
and
it's
it's
good
to
have
big
dreams,
but
we
don't
have
the
money
for
them
right
now.
D
You
know:
there's
there's
another
20
million
across
our
downtown
that
we
don't
have,
but
I
do
love.
I
love
the
possibility
of
putting
something
down
there
for
christmas
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
add
this
when
people
are
coming
off
the
train,
it's
not
just
there
that
they're!
Looking
down,
you
know
as
you're
looking
across
there's
a
number
of
issues
there
that
need
additional
cleanup
and
code
enforcement
that
that
has
been
going
on
for
way
too
long.
D
You
know,
we've
had
a
contractor,
utilizing
the
former
hanlon
tire
as
a
as
a
as
a
yard.
So
I
I
I'm
strained.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
So
posey
park
yeah,
I'm
good!
Thank
you.
A
I
saw
a
four
and
then
councilmember
salazar.
G
I
just
wanted
to
to
rebut
some
of
what
marty
just
said,
because
we
don't
have
money
for
any
of
these
options.
G
To
be
honest,
none
of
these
are
funded
and
so
we're
talking
about
what
direction
do
we
want
to
take
on
this,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
funding
to
do
any
of
these,
and
if
we
actually
go
with
the
more
ambitious
option,
five,
which
would
actually
turn
this
into
somewhat
of
a
park
with
usable
recreation
area
that
actually
opens
up
those
parking
loo
funds
to
us,
which
wouldn't
be
the
case
with
any
of
the
other
options.
G
So
you
know
if
we
were
just
talking
about,
you
know
scrambling
to
get
half
a
million,
and
only
you
know
putting
a
a
coat
of
paint
in
some
plants
in
in
a
broken
fountain.
G
What's
happening
in
front
of
that
fountain,
which
is
the
area
that
could
be
usable,
used
to
be
a
park
there
now
there's
no
grass
or
anything
well,
except
for
that
little
mound,
but
you
know
maybe
focus
on
I'm
doing
something
there
and
then
coming
back
to
repairing
the
fountain
area
as
downtown
starts.
Evolving
and
more
funds
become
available
from
that
development.
D
D
It
was
just
a
little
bit
of
grass
with
a
couple
trees
and
then,
when
we
went
ahead
and
realigned
san
mateo
avenue,
we
split
it
and
we
had
to
cut
those
beautiful
trees
down,
but
it
wasn't
really
much
of
a
park
ever.
But
let
me
ask
staff
is
posey
park
a
real
park
in
in
in
our
city's
eyes,.
A
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
medina.
I
rolled
my
hand
with
regard
to
council
member
salazar's
comment
and
I
think
it'll
address
marty's
as
well.
Improvements
to
pulsey
park
are
currently
not
funded.
B
What
we're
talking
about
is
this
defining
an
option
and
identifying
funding
one
potential
funding
source
for
closing
part,
which
is
a
part
it's
our
parking
loop
fund
that
does
have
three
million
dollars,
and
so
we
could
potentially
fund
some,
if
not
all
these
options,
if
that,
if
that
is
where
we
wanted
to
direct
those
spots
now,
there
are
other
needs,
as
we
know
across
the
city,
for
those
parking
loopholes,
and
we
can
spend
three
million
dollars
like
that
on
various
other
other
parts,
and
we
have
been
identifying
a
significant
amount
of
those
part
and
blue
funds
to
help
out
with
the
aquatic
and
rec
center.
B
Now
that
we've
actually
had
the
bid
opening
for
the
parking
brake
and
the
new
parking
rec
center,
and
we
received
the
big
pricing
that
does
open
up
those
spark
and
loot
funds
that
we
were
already
reserving
a
million
dollars
out
of
in
our
in
our
budget
estimations
for
other
parks,
citywide
to
go
towards
closing
park
or
other
areas.
So
it's
really
a
council
policy
system
when
we
talked
about
the
challenges
with
using
the
parking
lot
funds
earlier.
I
want
to
be
clear
that
was
on
centennial
plaza
because.
B
Plaza
right
now
is
not
a
technical
park,
it
is
a
temporary
plaza
from
a
former
redevelopment
parcel
and
it's
essentially
a
holding
place
because
we
have
been.
We
did
a
temporary
installation
there
and
it's
not.
It
has
not
been
opened.
That
is
not
a
part
by
city
definition
holding
park,
however,
and
so
one
option
that
is
available
to
the
city
council
is
to
carve
out
the
the
500
000
for
option
4
or
any
of
the
other
officers,
and
and
we
can
look
to
fund
those
through
the
budget
process.
B
In
addition,
it's
worth
clarifying,
I
think,
a
comment
that
council
member
medina
made
and
and
that
we
could
revise
a
500
000
figure
if
we
do
not
do
a
water
feature.
The
85
000
for
restoration
of
the
surface
and
waterproofing
is
needed,
whether
we
do
planning
or
accounting,
because
the
the
plants
actually
have
to
drain
too.
So
we
would
need
to
repair
the
concrete
the
exposed
rebar
waterproof,
whether.
G
B
Were
reactivating
the
fountain
or
doing
planners,
and
so
we
do
think
option.
Four
is
approximately
half
a
million
dollars
and,
of
course,
as
we
bring
on
it,
the
the
landscape,
architect
and
design
it,
the
the
costs
will
come
more
into
alignment,
but
that
is
our
current
estimate.
I
hope
that
answers
the
questions.
F
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
and
thank
our
city
manager
for
that.
That
was
a
pretty
important
clarity.
A
Provided
councilmember
mason.
C
Five,
so
I'm
I'm
wondering
why
we
didn't
have
a
schematic
for
options,
one
through
four
to
see
what
those
would
compare
to.
B
B
For
improvements
closing
right
now
to
bring
you
to
the
sort
of
beautiful
images
you
see
here.
C
Okay,
so
then
this
option
five
is
gonna
include
when
it
says
complete
renovation.
It's
gonna,
it's
good.
It's
gonna
be
all
new
concrete.
B
C
I
think
so,
I'm
not.
I
think
what
I'm
having
a
hard
time
grasping
is
that
it's
unclear
to
me
what
more
we're
getting
for
1.5
million
dollars.
So
I'd
like
to
better
understand
because
you're
taught
you're,
I
mean
you're
talking
about
taking
money
from
like
you
said,
three
million
dollars
could
go
fast.
C
It
florida
park
could
have
been
done
by
now
right,
and
so
I
think
that
when
we're
looking
at
how
we're
strategically
placing
our
money,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
some
kind
of
rhyme
or
reason
to
what
we're
doing
what
we're
doing,
while
also
finishing
projects
I
mean,
I
feel
like
we're
starting
a
lot
of
projects
and
I
and
that
should
not
be
long
term,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
finish
them.
C
C
E
The
difference
again
all
of
these
use
this
existing
structure.
So
no
matter
what
we
do,
you're
going
to
see
the
massive
wall
when
you're
at
the
plot.
It's
very
interesting
when
you
take
pictures
of
it,
it
doesn't
seem
to
have
that
same.
I
will
say:
oppressive
impact
is
when
you're
there,
and
it's
just
this
wave
of
this
beige
kind
of
wall,
we're
not
going
to
activate
the
fountain
there's
a
whole
stepped
area
which
will
end
up
just
being
this
odd
stuff.
E
Here
we
can't
make
any
of
this
go
away,
and
so
I
think
it's
really
important
the
expectation
that
these
solutions
may
soften.
What's
there,
which
are
really
transformative,
it
doesn't
do
that
it
repurposes
certain
elements
by
cladding
it
with
public
art
by
softening
it
in
certain
areas
with
plantings,
but
even
the
expectations
of
the
plantings
that
we
put
there
you're
looking
at
things
which
are
a
lower
level
and
still
don't
have
the
grander
of
trees.
E
So
if
you
look
at
five,
what
it
does
is
what
the
streetscape
attempted
to
do
is
really
to
repurpose
that
whole
area
and
when
I,
as
I'm
reading
it
from
the
plan
view,
you
can
kind
of
see
that
the
fountain
isn't
isn't.
E
So
it's
very
green:
it's
a
shaded
area,
it's
a
place
which
is
more
inviting
to
gather
it
doesn't
have
the
starkness,
so
the
first
four
options,
no
matter
what
we
do,
it's
still
going
to
be
a
very
broad
apron
of
a
concrete
plaza
with
some
cool
treatments
and
cladding.
If
you
will
to
that
big
concrete
structure,
that's
there,
so
I
really
think
the
expectation
of
what
we'll
spend
the
money
on
it's
different.
So
we
can
kind
of
dress
it
up.
E
We
can
soften
what's
there
for
up
to
500
000
but
to
truly
transform
the
space
where
it
feels
more
like
a
park
setting
is
the
higher
price
time.
I
will
also
add
that
you
know
so,
regardless
of
what
we
do,
I
do
think
you
know
we're
moving
towards
this.
Let's
bring
in
an
expert,
let's
bring
somebody
that
knows:
material
use
the
species,
the
plantings,
so
they
would
render
a
plan.
They
may
be
able
to
render
two
options:
the
interesting
thing
about
products
and
park
funding.
E
If
I
have
a
plan,
like
your
part,
funding
that
comes
up
and
you
can
apply
for
grants
to
transform
spaces,
and
you
can
always
do
what
we're
trying
to
do
now
planning
it.
But
I
just
I
mean
just
understanding
the
way
part
grants
go,
you're
more
attractive,
a
candidate.
If
you
have
a
shovel
right
now
for
a
concept,
that's
ready
to
go
to
construction
docks,
so
the
two
million
option
gives
us
the
ability
to
really
re-envision
it.
C
No
but
very
helpful,
thank
you
and
for
five
then
so
I
I
don't.
I
missed
it.
I
think
earlier
when,
until
you
just
said
this
right
now
so
this,
if
this
rendering
came
right
of
the
straight
out
of
the
streetscape
plan,
then
that
means
that
this
two
million
dollars
is
part
of
the
overall
budget
given
to
the
streetscape
plan
that
the
council
approved.
C
Is
that
also
is
that
right
then?
So
it's
not
like
you're
gonna
have
the
the
budget,
that's
in
the
streetscape
plan,
and
then
it's
gonna
be
like.
Oh,
this
is
two
million
dollars
which
is
more
than
had
been
anticipated
as
part
of
the
plan.
This
is
part
of
the
overall
budget
and
the
phasing
is
that
right.
B
B
C
I
don't
think
you
maybe
I
wasn't
clear
on
the
question,
so
I
understand
that
the
money
is
not
budgeted
the
20
million
dollars,
but
it
was
broken
down
into
phases,
and
so
this
slide.
If
it
came
out
of
the
streetscape
plan,
then
the
20
million
should
be
out
of
the
20
million
that
had
been
estimated
and
that's
my
question:
is
this
a
a
whole
separate?
B
But
I
I
want
to
caveat
that
the
it's
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
exactly
what
was
envisioned
in
the
streetscape
plan
right.
The
streetscape
plan
was
30
000
feet
level,
and
then
we
would
employ
the
services
of
a
landscape
designer.
C
So
is
that
a
yes?
Yes,
okay,
thank
you,
because
I
I'm
gonna
start
getting
worried
if
none
of
these
numbers
are
part
of
the
the
envision
streetscape
plan.
Okay,
thank
you
for
answering
those
questions.
H
So
a
lot
of
my
questions
were
answered
by
director
montola's,
very
complete
answer
to
linda's
question.
So
looking
at
all
this
and
learning
about
the
the
well
the
park
and
lou
fund
and
what
we
potentially
could
use-
and
all
of
that
I
I
you
know-
I
I'm
you
know
I'm
with
councilmember
salzer.
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
you
know
dressing
up
what's
here
if
we
can
do
it
correctly,
but
I
also
don't
like
the
idea
of
adopting
a
plan
that
can't
be
funded
from
for
many
years.
I
don't
think
we're
there.
H
I
don't
think
that's
gonna
happen
given
what's
what's
coming
in
the
future,
and
I
would
be
supportive
of
option
five.
If
we
were
going
to
fund
it
through
a
combination
of
things.
You
know
some
of
our
parking
lot
fund.
Some,
you
know
make
a
application
to
the
county
for
measure
k
funding.
Maybe
you
know
from
funding
from
other
from
other
sources
to
and
to
bring
it
all
together.
H
That
would
be-
and
if
that's
something
that's
that's
feasible-
that
we
can
get
that
started
on
getting
the
getting
the
being
able
to
do
the
short-term
funding
to
do
the
design
to
make
a
shovel-ready
project
that
makes
it
easier
to
get
grants
for
so
that
we're
ready
to
do
it.
I
would
be
supportive
of
that.
G
Okay,
thank
you.
So
you
know-
and
I
I'm
a
huge
proponent
of
not
taking
on
projects
that
we
can't
finish.
That
was
really
my
big
opposition.
G
G
This
is
part
of
a
plan
that
we've
already
approved
we're
committed
to
this
and
that
the
what
was
in
the
streetscape
plan
is
what
we're
talking
about
now
versus
trying
to
do
a
short.
You
know
quick
win
to
use.
Javon's
words.
You
know
trying
to
get
a
quick
win
out
of
this,
and
if
it
is
a
quick
win
that
will
eventually
be
torn
down
to
make
way
for
our
ultimate
vision,
then
it's
not
a
good
use
of
our
monies
in
the
short
term.
G
So
you
know,
if
we're
going
to
go,
ask
for
measure
k
funding
and
if
it's
something
we
could
use
at
centennial
and
it's
not
something
that
we
can
pull
out
of
park
and
loot.
Then
I
think
we
go
that
route
and
maybe
just
stay
the
course
on
this.
Look
at
it
long
term.
If
we
make
the
investment,
let's
make
it
in
the
initial
design
and
start
moving
that
street
streetscape
plan
forward,
rather
than
looking
at
quick.
You
know
shortcuts.
A
City
manager,
you
have
your
or
in
that
room
has
a
hand
up.
I
know
councilmember
mason
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
go
ahead
of
councilmember
mason
if
possible,
since
I
haven't
had
an
opportunity
yet
city
manager,
though
please.
B
A
couple
comments,
and
I
want
to
sort
of
go
back
a
little
bit
to
when
this
topic
first
came
up.
B
What
I
mentioned
to
council
is
absolutely:
we
can
look
into
ways
to
quickly
reactivate
or
make
some
improvements
to
cozy
park,
and
it
was
based
on
council
member,
linda
mason's
conversations
with
the
county
under
the
the.
B
But
what
I
also
have
always
talked
in
council
about
is:
let's
not
look
at
things
in
a
vacuum,
because
if
we
are
sort
of
zeroing
zeroing
in
on
option
five,
because
we're
thinking-
oh,
let's
fund
it
with
park
and
lou,
I
really
think
that
that
question
really
needs
to
go
in
contact
with
your
capital
budget
planning
discussion
where
you're
looking
at
all
of
your
park
needs
across
the
city,
because
that
is
our
right.
B
And
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
we
should
not
sort
of
make
a
decision
to
go
with
option
five,
because
we're
thinking
you
know
where
there's
three
million
dollars
in
that
fund
and
then
that
pulls
that
out,
because,
for
example,
we
apply
for
a
grant
for
florida
park.
C
B
B
That
said,
absolutely
re-envisioning
the
park,
as
identified
in
the
streetscape
plan
for
a
two
million
dollar
more
park,
is
something
that
would
absolutely
be
very
beautiful
and
something
that
we
may
want
to
go
down
as
a
city.
But
I
I
just
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
there
may
or
may
not
be
the
near-term
funding
for
that,
depending
on
what
you
decide
when
you're
looking
at
the
totality
of
the
projects
and
the
peeps
and
the
funding,
it's
also
worth
noting
that.
B
We
typically
do
not
factor
highly
high
on
that
scale,
because
this
is
not
the
type
of
park
in
an
underserved
neighborhood
that
meets
the
criteria,
for
example,
that
we
were
able
to
meet
with
florida
park.
When
we
looked
at
the
prop
68
funding
the
park
grant
funding
florida
park
was
an
area
that
qualified,
but
other
areas
in
the
city
did
not
qualify
and
we.
B
E
B
That
will
be
looked
at
as
beneficial
or
meeting
the
grant
criterias
that
are
out
there
and
as
it's
currently
configured
as
more
of
a
entry
point
to
the
train
station,
it
may
not
fare
high
in
rent
farms,
and
I
know
that
was
a
lot.
But
I
just
want
to.
I
just
want
to
make.
B
We
understand
the
totality
of
what
we're.
B
A
Okay,
real
quick,
because
I
do
because
I
I'm
going
to
assume
that's
not
a
good
thing
to
do,
but
council,
member
mason
and
vice
mayor
medina
may
have
just
a
follow-up
question
or
a
comment
on
that.
And
then
so.
Let
me
defer
to
councilman
mason
and
vice
mayor
medina.
If
we
could
start
to
wind
this
up,
because
I
think
we've
all
had
a
good
dialogue
council
member.
D
And
council
member
yeah
yeah
yeah,
and
so
I
went
back
and
watched
the
study
session
for
these
250k
and
we
had
the
four
options
right
city
park,
improvements,
plenty
of
things
there,
the
library
downtown
in
general
and
then
posey
park.
D
I
I
voted
along
on
posey
park,
but
my
concern
was:
it
was
going
to
cost
too
much
money
for
250
000
to
do
much
there,
which
winds
up
being
pretty
much
the
case.
I
heard
loud
and
clear
what
our
city
manager
said.
D
We
have
millions
of
dollars
in
improvements
needed
at
our
city
parks.
All
of
them
could
use
a
little
bit
more
love
and
money,
and
we
haven't
yet
even
came
up
to
that
discussion
and
heard
from
the
park
and
rec
department.
I'm
sorry
the
parking
recognition
on
their
recommendations
on
where,
where,
where
is
the
need
in
san
bruno
for
parks,
right
so
with
when
this
opportunity
came
up,
250
000.,
yeah,
hey
great,
let's
go
ahead
and
go
for
it!
Well,
it's
a
lot
more
money
than
250
000.
it'd
be
great
to
have
the
big
plan.
D
D
So
I'm
ready
to
listen
to
what
our
mayor
has
to
say.
C
C
So
there
is
a
stronger
argument
for
measure
k
funds
when
you
link
it
to
the
county,
because
they're
meant
for
county
funds,
so
it
doesn't
mean
that
cities
haven't
received
those
funds.
I
believe
one
of
the
cities
in
down
the
peninsula
or
up
the
peninsula
received
almost
a
million
dollars
for
their
park.
C
Then
there's
a
number
of
gives
similar
to
that.
But
I
did
just
want
to
say
that
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
my
focus
was
intentionally
around
posey
park
was
really
to
improve
our
chances
of
getting
the
funds
and
hopefully
more
funds,
and
then
I
did
want
to
ask
with
the
development
that's
coming
from
youtube
and
some
of
these
other
sources.
How
quickly
can
that
park
in
lieu
fun
be
replenished.
B
The
parking
lut
will
not
be
replenished.
The
parking
move
fee
was
eliminated
when
we
created
a
comprehensive
set
of
development
impacts,
and
so
money
will
go
for
new
development
into
development
impact
fees,
and
there
is
a
portion
of
development
impact
fees
that
can
be
used
for
park
infrastructure.
I
know
that's
a
nuanced
question.
I
sort
of
think
about
it
as
a
three
million
dollars
in
the
parking
lot
fund
that
the
101
sam
bruno
that
paid
that
roughly
three
million
dollars.
That's
the
last
project
that
I
believe
that
will
pay
into
that
fund.
G
B
B
B
And
and
those
payments
are
due,
I
believe
it
at
building
permit
issuance,
so
that's
at
least
a
year
from
entitlement,
and
so
we
may
be
talking
about
24
months.
If
that
project
proceeds
rapidly.
There's
improvements
at
the
sears
building
and
a
potential
redevelopment
there
likely
two
years
away
before
they'll
speak.
Certainly
so
I
I
would
say
there's
several
years
before
there
are
significant
development
impact
dollars
paid
to
do
significant
parts.
C
A
You
and
miss
councilmember
hamilton
you're,
going
to
be
important
because
I
have
you
kind
of
on
two
different
options,
so
it
might
be
good
to
hear
from
you.
H
Well,
I
actually,
I
just
had
a
clarifying
question
on
the
the
the
the
impact
fees
city
manager.
You
said
that
that
a
portion
of
those
are
can
be
used
for
parks.
What
is
that
portion
is
it
set?
Is
it
a
set
percentage?
You
know
every
dollar
that
comes
in
you
know,
x,
accents
goes
to
parks,
and
this
much
goes
to
water
and
sewer
or
whatever.
How
does
that?
How
does
that
work.
A
B
Level,
our
development
impact
pieces
have
several
buckets
one
for
infrastructure,
one
one
for
parts,
there's
a
there's.
I
believe
five
different
buckets
where
the
money
goes
into.
One
is
for
affordable
housing,
for
example,
and
so
the
money
is
paid
divided
into
the
buckets
and
you
can
use
from
one
one
of
one
of
the
pots
or
you
can
actually
borrow
from
the
other
box.
But
why
don't?
B
I
just
say
that
we
will
find
that
staff
report
and
there's
actually
a
great
section
in
that
staff
report
that
articulates
all
the
different
types
of
impact
fees
and
how
they
can
be
utilized.
A
Thank
you,
so
city
manager,
if
option,
because
obviously
the
team
is
on
four
or
five
if
an
option
five
was
pursued.
As
far
as
for
staff
now
to
sit
down
and
see
where
monies
can
be
raised,
acquired
gained.
B
The
very
next
step
is
to
engage
the
services
of
the
park
designer
to
design
to
re-envision
the
farm,
and
there
will
be
certain
line
items
in
that
scope
of
work
right,
they'll,
be
community
building
outreach,
outreach
site
surveys
and
all
of
that
work
or
a
large
part
portion
of
that
work
is
not
useful
if
we
decide
to
reuse
the
existing
infrastructure,
and
so
it's
really
not
possible
to
engage
the
services
of
a
landscape
architect
to
begin
the
process
of
re-envisioning
the
part
and
do
design
work
if
we're
going
to
utilize
a
significant
portion
of
the
existing
infrastructure.
B
But
the
vast
majority
of
it
will
be
tossed
out
because
we're
looking
at
sort
of
converting
fountains
to
planter
boxes
and
and
we
read
and
adding
murals
and
and
other
ways
to
sort
of
beautify.
Jesus.
A
B
Is
direction
on
which
path
to
take,
and
then
we
will
identify
funds
to
further
than
endeavor.
So
if
the
city
council
chose
option
five,
our
next
step
would
be
through
the
budget
process
to
identify
funds
for
a
landscape
architect
to
begin
the
process
of
re-envisioning
closing
park
estimation
that
will
be,
if
not
a
hundred
thousand,
potentially
more,
and
so
we
would
look
to
fund
a
park
architect
at
somewhere
between
100
to
200
000.
B
To
begin
this
effort,
if
we
wanted
to
sort
of
forthrightly,
if
we're
looking
at
options
through
four,
certainly
we,
I
think,
find
the
funds
to
do
option
one
and
somewhere
between
options.
Two
through
four.
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
we
can
work
to
identify
funds
or
and
execute
on
within
within
12
months.
A
Okay
and
like
I
said,
I
think
people
are
to
option
four
and
five,
so
I
haven't
heard
anybody
acknowledge
one
two
or
three
just
so
we
can
kind
of
scale
this
down.
You
know
to
me:
I've
had
this
conversation
with
somebody.
It's
just
you
know.
The
intentions
are
great
to
say.
Well,
why
don't?
We,
you
know,
do
so
much
and
then
we'll
we
can
always
come
back
and
do
it
again
costs
go
up.
Things
happen
as
you
get
off
the
train
station.
This
is
a
visual.
A
The
way
that
mound
is,
I
think,
visual
purposes
for
enforcement
driving
by
is
not
it's
not
a
good
thing.
I
think
there's
a
lot
that
can
be
done.
So
in
my
mind,
at
this
time
I
would
say:
option
five,
because
I
think
you
know
you
you.
This
is
what
we
already
talked
about
with
streetscape
plans.
That's
why
the
photo
is
there,
and
so
that
was
what,
when
we
had
outreach
and
we
had
community
involvement
and
the
walkthroughs
and
et
cetera,
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
at
this
moment.
A
I
want
to
kind
of
recap
what
I
heard
and
please
this
would
be
very
helpful
to
correct
me
at
this
time.
I'm
hearing
from
councilman
mason
option
four
council
member
salazar
option:
five
council
vice
mayor
medina
option:
four
myself
option
five
and
then
mr
hamilton,
it
was
four
but
funding
kind
of
was
variable
where,
where
I'm
at
two
is
right,
it
was
the
funding.
That's
why
I
was
asking
that
question
so
yeah
exactly.
A
A
Errors,
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
chiming
in
so
I'm
guessing.
That
is!
Oh,
oh
vice
mayor.
Am
I
incorrect?
No.
D
I
I
I
didn't
want
to
put
it
like
that,
the
pressure
on
on
tom
councilman
hamilton,
the
idea
here
is
okay,
so
we'll
look
at
the
worst
thing
is
to
hire
somebody
and
the
plan
sits
on
the
shelf
for
years
right
and
the
city
manager
just
said,
the
additional
funding
from
development
isn't
going
to
come
for
a
couple
years,
so
figuring
what
we
can
do
to
keep
it
to
make
it
not
look
as
bad
as
it
does
right
now,
if,
if
wow
so,
if
we
could
get
the
grants
great,
but
we
don't
know
the
the
we
haven't,
assessed
all
our
parks
and
how
much
that's
going
to
cost.
A
A
That
was
maybe
I'm
hungry.
It
was
a
5-0
to
move
forward
on
that
on
the
posing
markets.
It's
a
split
group
at
this
moment
for
various
reasons,
city
manager.
Do
we
need
an
absolute
definitive
here
or
you
you
tell
me
where
we're
at
as
far
as
timeline
and
moving
on
on
topics.
B
What
interim
improvements
can
we
make
to
unify
the
area
and
we
have
come
back
with
options,
one
through
four,
which
it
involved
reusing
the
existing
infrastructure
there's
an
option:
five,
which
is
totally
re-envisioning,
the
entire
area
likely
demolition
of
the
fountain
and
opening
up
the
area
and
placemaking.
We
don't.
B
Like
now,
but
we
know
that
we
need
to
if
we
go
down
that
right
and
embark
on
a
landscape
architect
to
help
us
with
that
vision
and
that
placement
and
so
staff
right
now
is
looking
for
council
to
sort
of
pick
the
lane
we're
going
down.
A
I
understand
that
city
manager,
the
question
was:
does
staff
need
a
direction
this
this
evening?
Yes
or
no?
H
So
if
there
was
funding,
I
would
be
voting
for
option
five.
There
is
none
and
the
the
the
thought
of
having
to
use
a
significant
portion
of
our
park
and
luffy
when
we
have
many
other
needs
from
parks
across
san
bruno
is
not
palatable
to
me
and
the
I.
H
I
agree
that
if
we
I
I
don't
agree,
I
fear
and
the
the
the
probability.
It
would
be
very,
very
high
that
if
we,
if
we
pursue
option
five,
that
it
will
end
up
on
the
shelf
for
for
a
significant
period,
so
I'm
gonna
I'll
be
supporting
option.
Four
today.
D
A
B
B
When
you
adopt
the
budget
and
fund
the
project
caveat
dean,
we
heard
you
tonight
saying
if
you
can
find
funds
to
move
faster
with
centennial
plaza.
Please
do
so
and
don't
wait
to
the
budget
saturday
morning's
priority
setting
process
is
talking
about
a
full
list
of
city
council
priorities,
not
just
the
streetscape,
but
a
whole
list
of
priorities.
B
B
B
We
have
tonight
is:
what
direction
will
we
be
proceeding
down
so
that
we
can
bring
a
budget
to
you.
A
Okay,
so
vice
versa,
he's
asking
for
an
option
so
you're
with
option
four:
four:
four
and
then
councilman
mason
had
four
and
and
fine.
We
we
need
to
to
move
forward
on
this,
and
I
think
we've
talked
well
and
and
on
this
task.
So
why
don't
we
go
with
option
four,
and
that
is
by
consensus,
and
it
is
option
four.
Anybody
can
correct
me
if
I'm
incorrect
in
my
counting.
Oh.
A
C
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
caveat
that
to
say
that
I
I
don't
disagree
with
councilmember
salazar's
point
around
being
this
being
part
of
the
longer
streetscape
plan.
So
if
there's
funds
that
staff
can
identify
that
doesn't
take
away
from
the
other
projects
and
the
other
initiatives,
I'd
definitely
be
happy
to
reconsider
it.
When
we
get
to
the
budget
season
so.