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Here,
thank
you
item
number
three
public
comments
for
items
not
on
the
agenda
individual
to
be
allowed
up
to
three
minutes.
This
council
policy
to
refer
matters
raised
in
this
form
to
staff
for
investigation
and
or
action
where
appropriate.
The
brown
act
prohibits
the
council
from
discussing
and
acting
upon
any
item,
not
agenda
pursuant
to
state
law.
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A
Thank
you
very
much.
Then
we
will
move
on
to
item
number
five
conduct
assistance.
A
Mr
city
manager,
I
I
was
trying
to
get
us
done
before
the
polls
close
tonight
and
I
apologize
for
going
forward.
Thank
you
for
pausing
appreciate
it
very
much
item
number
four
sorry:
lupita
consent
calendar
adopt
resolution
activating
level
two
of
the
san
bruno
water
shortage
contingency
plan.
A
Thank
you
with
that,
bring
it
back
to
council
action
by
council.
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
now.
First
turn
it
over
to
our
city
manager,
javon
grogan,
and
then
we
will
also
have
some
other
presenters
sure
good
evening,
mayor
medina
members
of
the
city
council
and
members
of
the
public
javon
grogan
city
manager.
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
item
5a,
is
to
receive
a
presentation
on
the
2022
san
bruno
revenue
revenue
measure
feasibility
survey.
The
council
will
remember
at
your
april
12th
meeting
you
established
a
subcommittee
of
the
city
council
vice
mayor,
mason
and
councilmember,
juan
medina.
A
That
subcommittee
was
to
work
with
staff
and
our
polling
consultant
on
the
development
of
a
feasibility
survey
of
likely
voters
for
the
november
22
election
and
asked
questions
about
several
ballot
measures
that
the
city
council
has
been
considering,
potentially
putting
on
the
november
22
ballot.
That
subcommittee
met
with
myself
city
staff,
as
well
as
brian
godby,
from
gaiabi
research.
A
The
poll
was
executed.
The
results
were
obtained
during
the
month
of
may.
We
are
here
to
discuss
the
results
of
that
poll
as
well
as
receive
advice
from
brian
godby,
as
well
as
another
consultant
that
the
city
retained
jared
boygan
from
props
and
measures,
a
consulting
firm
that
supports
cities
to
place
measures
on
the
ballot,
so
both
jared
and
brian
are
here
and
I'll.
Now
turn
the
presentation
over
to
brian
gosby
for
a
summary
of
the
poll
and
the
results.
A
A
I
assume
everybody
can
see
the
powerpoint
presentation,
okay,
great,
so
in
in
brief,
summary
of
the
purpose
of
the
survey
itself.
We
looked
at
a
variety
of
things.
We
looked
at
some
background
climate
kind
of
things
like
city
services,
where
the
economy
is
going
that
sort
of
stuff.
We
looked
at
a
very
specific
infrastructure
bond
measure
that
we
put
a
hypothetical
wording.
Together.
We
looked
at
a
variety
of
different
things.
We
might
spend
the
money
on
in
that
kind
of
infrastructure
bond.
There
are
informational
statements
on
both
sides
of
the
coin.
A
We
looked
at
rate
issues
and
then,
of
course,
we
also
looked
at
additional
measures
that
the
council
is
considering
and
to
see
how
that
might
impact
the
infrastructure
measure
and
then
there's
a
wealth
of
demographic
and
behavioral
information
that
we
use
to
make
sure
that
the
sample
is
representative
of
the
universe
that
we're
interested
in
in
terms
of
the
more
specific
methodology.
This
was
an
online
and
phone
survey
of
likely
november
2022
voters
so
that
that
means
that
online
we
targeted
people
who
are
in
that
likely
voter
universe.
A
A
The
sample
size
was
446,
so
we
over
performed
our
goal
of
400,
which
helps
bring
the
error
to
4.55
percent
plus
or
minus
jumping
into
the
key
findings.
Again,
the
first
section
of
the
survey
was
kind
of
what's
going
on
in
san
bruno,
the
background
climate,
if
you
will
the
first
question
was:
do
you
have
a?
Are
you
satisfied
or
dissatisfied
with
the
city's
provision
of
services
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
adding
the
various
somewhats
together
here
we're
at
59
satisfied?
A
A
But
here
when
we
add
variance
somewhat
together,
we
see
that
we've
got
45
favorable
in
the
22
survey
and
that's
a
little
bit
higher
than
in
the
november
20
survey
universe
that
we
looked
at
a
couple
years
ago
in
terms
of
the
direction
of
the
economy,
given
the
state
of
things
is
currently
we're
at
14
says
that
it's
better
in
the
next
six
months.
38
said
about
the
same.
44
said
worse
and
again,
you
can
compare
that
to
the
2020
survey,
where
the
better
was
27.
A
The
about
the
same
was
18,
so
you
see
there's
some
moving
around
there
and
the
worst
was
about
the
same
place
as
we
are
today.
So
it's
really
some
change
between
better
and
about
the
same
given
the
cost
of
gas,
inflation
and
those
sorts
of
things.
A
The
next
question
in
this
section
and
final
one
was
just
their
rating
of
the
city's
handling
of
the
covid
crisis.
Again
adding
the
very
in
somewhat
together,
you
see
we're
at
69,
favorable
and
13
unfavorable,
there's
19
that
didn't
have
an
opinion.
A
A
So
at
that
point
we
switched
gears
and
we
went
into
the
specific
infrastructure
bond
measure
and
you
see
the
hypothetical
wording
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
slide.
It
meets
all
the
statewide
legal
requirements,
it's
less
than
75
words.
It
has
the
bond
authorization,
which
is
124
million
dollars.
It
has
a
tax
rate
which
is
3
cents
per
100
of
assessed
value.
A
It
says
that
that
will
be
taxed
while
the
bonds
are
outstanding,
which
is
the
term,
and
then
it
says
it
generates
6.6
million
dollars
annually.
All
of
those
are
things
that
are
required
by
state
law.
The
other
things
are
more
up
to
us.
We
can
decide
to
use
those
infrastructure
dollars.
However,
we
might
you
can
see
the
bullets
that
we
we
determined
in
our
work
with
staff
and
the
subcommittee.
A
The
way
we
judge
feasibility
is,
we
add
the
definitely
and
probably
yes
together
and
you
see
that's
at
58
and
that's
an
okay
place
to
start
as
long
as
there's
substantial
growth
dipping
my
hand
there
isn't
so
that's
a
bit
frustrating,
but
it
is
what
it
is
and
we'll
see
more
about
that
as
I
go
through
here.
A
A
We
can
do
the
math,
because
we
know
what
the
average
home
is
worth
or
assess
that
and
so
that
3
cents
per
100
translates
into
128
for
the
average
homeowner,
and
you
see
when
we
told
people
that
the
support
goes
down
to
49
when
we
cut
it
back
to
85
for
the
average
homeowner
we're
at
61.
So
it's
up
a
little
bit
from
where
we
started
up
and
when
we
go
down
as
far
as
42
dollars
we're
at
70.
So
there
is
certainly
tax
rate
sensitivity.
A
Although
it's
important
to
note
that
this
working,
which
is
simpler
and
easier
to
understand,
can
not
be
in
the
ballot
question.
It's
not
how
the
law
requires
you
to
talk
about
this
this
measure.
So
this
is
subsequent
information
that
people
would
have
to
get.
A
The
next
set
of
questions.
There's
several
slides
here:
it
was
a
long
list
of
various
things
that
we
might
spend
the
money
on
and
we
basically
said:
would
you
be
more
or
less
likely
to
support
the
measure
knowing
that
we'd
spend
it
in
that
square
area?
We
then
drilled
down.
Is
that
much
more
or
somewhat
more
likely
same
thing
on
the
negative
side?
A
What
you
see
here
is
we've
grouped
the
various
infrastructure
projects
into
like
groups
groupings
and
then
we've
added
the
very
and
somewhat
or
the
much
more
likely
someone
more
likely
together
and
that's
what
this
box
shows.
So
this
is
the
fire
station
related
items,
and
you
see
that
upgrade
fire
stations
to
accommodate
modern
firefighting
and
life-saving
emergency
medical
equipment
is
70
in
round
numbers
at
least
somewhat
more
likely
to
support
the
measure.
A
Upgrade
fire
stations
to
ensure
operations
during
earthquakes
and
natural
disasters
is
68
in
round
numbers
and
upgrade
fire
stations
to
ensure
rapid
emergency
response.
Time
is
68
in
round
numbers
as
well,
and
those
are
all
above
the
two-thirds
threshold
necessary
to
pass
this
kind
of
infrastructure
bond.
But
when
we
apply
that
four
and
a
half
percent
margin
of
error,
we
could
be
below
that
two-thirds
threshold.
A
The
next
set
of
items
that
were
grouped
together
were
sort
of
public
works
and
included
streets
and
storm
drains,
and
you
can
see
here
at
the
top
of
the
list.
We
have
fixed
puddles
and
maintain
local
streets
and
roads.
That's
at
78.
A
So
that's
a
substantial
number,
it's
well
above
the
two-thirds
threshold,
and
even
when
we
apply
that
four
and
a
half
or
five
percent,
depending
on
how
you
round
margin
of
error
we're
still
in
the
70s,
not
at
that
two-thirds
threshold.
So
that's
something
that's
a
top
priority
for
respondents.
A
The
next
grouping
is
much
tighter,
ranked
together
and
that's
the
storm
water
items
at
the
top
of
the
list.
In
terms
of
our
separate
ranking,
we
have
repaired
deteriorating
storm
drains
to
prevent
flooding,
repairing
deteriorate,
storm
drains
to
prevent
sinkholes,
reduce
pollutants
flowing
into
the
bay
and
repair
and
entain
storm
grains
to
prevent
water
pollution.
You
can
see
these
range
from
70
down
to
65
percent
or
62,
sorry
at
a
low.
So
you
know
some
of
those
are
right
at
the
threshold
of
two-thirds.
Some
of
them
are
not.
A
A
When
we
take
it
out,
it's
at
62,
I
wouldn't
say:
there's
a
statistically
significant
difference:
there
there's
a
little
more
intensity
with
the
ball
fields,
but
a
little
less
overall
support
and
the
final
grouping
was
libraries,
and
you
see
here
the
same
sort
of
methodology.
A
Again,
we've
added
that
much
more
likely
and
somewhat
more
likely
together.
The
bad
news
is
none
of
these
get
to
60
we're
just
below
that
for
all
of
these
items,
increased
library,
space
for
children's
literary
programs,
58
improve
public
library
to
provide
better
access
to
computers,
etc.
59
brings
san
bruno
library
facilities
up
to
modern
earthquake
standards
56
and
on
down
the
list,
but
the
bad
news
is
we're
not
approaching
the
two-thirds
threshold.
A
Now
the
next
set
of
questions
the
methodology
is
similar,
but
it's
shown
a
little
bit
different
here.
We
asked
people
a
list
of
informational
statements
and
said:
does
this
make
you
much
more
likely
somewhat
more
likely
or
does
it
have
no
effect
on
your
vote?
We
then
created
a
numeric
ranking,
which
is
a
real,
accurate
way
of
comparing
them,
but
somewhat
obscure.
So
we
also
provide
percentage
range
when
we
add
them
much
more
and
somewhat
more
likely
together-
and
you
can
see
in
this
top
grouping
here
we're
at
69
to
68.
A
So
it's
above
the
two-thirds
threshold,
but
again
with
a
margin
of
error
of
four
and
a
half
or
five
percent.
We
could
easily
be
below
the
two-thirds
threshold
for
all
of
these.
A
At
the
top
of
this
list,
none
of
the
money
would
be
used
for
administrator
salaries,
a
perennially
high
accountability
component
for
victims
of
heart
attack,
strokes
and
accidents.
Seconds
can
be
different,
etc.
That's
kind
of
the
911
response
component
of
the
fire
stations
measure
will
give
san
bruno
local
control
over
local
funds,
and
the
money
cannot
be
taken
by
the
state
is
what's
behind
the
ellipses
there?
Those
are
the
top
three
items.
A
Number
four
is
san
bruno
as
the
oldest
fire
stations
in
the
county
number
five
is
the
measure
requires
independent
citizens,
oversight,
another
perennially,
important
accountability
component,
and
then
we
go
down
from
there.
But
you
know
again,
these
are
all
still
really
important
to
people
they're,
just
not
really
a
lot
above
the
two-thirds
threshold
and
the
remainder
of
the
items
again
are
still
all
positive,
but
you
see
we
range
from
66
down
to
51,
so
you
know,
while
some
of
these
are
more
important,
some
of
them
are
much
less
important
to
the
respondents.
A
So
at
this
point
in
the
survey
after
giving
them
all
that
information,
the
details,
if
you
will
about
the
potential
infrastructure
bond,
we
come
back
to
the
exact
same
reading
a
second
time,
and
this
is
where
we
would
expect
to
see
it
go
up
and
obviously
go
up
to
above
two-thirds.
If
we
were
to
think
this
is
feasible
and
you
see
we
go
from
58
percent
in
round
numbers
to
59..
A
So
this
is
as
good
as
it
gets,
and
so
this
sort
of
suggests
that
at
this
point
we
should
be
thinking
about
a
2024
election
for
this,
where
there's
a
different
environment,
both
in
terms
of
the
likely
voters,
as
well
as
the
perhaps
the
economy
as
well.
A
We
also
tested
a
variety
of
negatives
because
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
fair,
and
so
here
the
methodology
is
largely
the
same
as
the
informational
statements,
the
higher
it
is
the
worse
it
is
for
the
measure
and
at
the
top
of
this
list,
not
surprising,
given
our
economic
climate
right
now
we
have
rising
gas
prices,
growing
inflation
and
the
ongoing
covid
crisis
now
is
the
wrong
time
and
that's
57,
at
least
somewhat
more
likely
to
oppose
the
measure
potential
other
property
taxes
that
might
be
on
the
ballot.
A
At
the
same
time,
we
can't
afford
all
these
new
taxes
is
next
the
city
getting
so
much
money
from
new
development
and
big
companies.
We
don't
need
to
tax
residents
and
on
down
the
list.
A
So
then
we
come
back
to
our
ballot
question.
Yet
a
third
time,
and
now
we've
seen
how
high
we
can
go,
which
was
59
and
we
can
see
how
low
we
go
after
people
hear
both
the
positives
and
then
the
negatives
in
that
order,
and
you
see
we're
back
down
to
52
so
lower
than
the
58
that
we
started
at
to
be
fair.
A
The
next
question
that
we
asked
switch
gears
a
little
bit,
and
this
talked
about
a
commercial
real
estate,
property
transfer
tax.
That
would
be
one
percent
for
four
unit
and
up,
and
you
can
see
the
wording
again
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
slide.
A
This
is
a
little
different,
because
this
measure
only
requires
a
simple
majority.
So
55.4
percent
exceeds
that
four
and
a
half
percent
margin
of
error,
not
by
a
lot
but
by
a
little
bit.
So
this
in
terms
of
judging
feasibility
looks
like
it
could
be
possible.
We
could
do
some
extra
work
on
this
ballot
question
to
talk
about
what
it
would
do,
what
people
would
get
out
of
it
and
that
would
certainly
be
an
appropriate
activity.
Much
like
we
did
with
the
sales
tax.
We
have
these
on
the
ballot.
A
A
Next
question
asked
if
there
should
be
an
amendment
to
the
medical
code
to
create
a
term
limit
for
council
members
in
the
mayor,
and
here
you
see
we're
at
66
percent
in
round
numbers,
so
above
the
simple
majority
necessary
to
be
successful
and
then,
finally,
when
we
asked
those
questions,
because
we
wanted
to
see
again
what
if
they
had
any
impact
on
the
the
infrastructure
bond-
and
we
go
up
a
little
bit
from
the
third
test-
we're
a
little
bit
lower
than
the
average
of
the
second
and
third
and
we're
clearly
lower
than
the
initial
test,
where
we
were
at
58
until
we're
at
54
at
the
end
here.
A
So
that
doesn't
change
our
conclusions,
which
are
that
the
bond
measure
tested
really
doesn't
appear
to
be
viable
for
this
year.
It's
not
anywhere
near
the
two-thirds
threshold,
and
it
might
be
something
to
think
about
for
a
future.
Election
residents
are
clearly
price
sensitive,
as
I
noted
earlier
on,
and
that's
important
new
information
for
a
future
effort.
If
there
is
to
be
one
strong,
majorities
of
voters
do
prioritize
the
variety
of
capital
improvements.
A
So
there
are
things
that
are
important
to
them
for
sure
san
bruno
residents,
among
them
prioritize
funding
for
streets
and
roads
and
fire
and
storm
drains
parks.
Libraries
are
in
that
order
at
the
end
of
the
list
and
then
finally,
the
commercial
transfer
tax
charter
amendment
that
would
enable
it
is
viable
for
22..
A
A
Thank
you
at
this
time.
Why
don't
we
see
if
there
is
any
questions
from
colleagues
on
the
presentation
and
then,
of
course,
then
we'll
go
to
the
public
and
then
back
to
council
councilmember,
salazar,
one
quick
question,
so
we
open
up
the
possibility
of
maybe
looking
at
2024
to
do
the
bond
measure.
A
What
what
can
you
tell
us
based
on
your
experience
in
research
that
is
different
in
a
presidential
year
that
could
either
make
this
worse
or
somewhat
better?
If
we
wait,
I
think
what
could
make
it
somewhat
better
is
the
turnout
will
go
up
dramatically.
A
I
mean
we're
expecting
in
san
mateo
county
as
a
whole
for
november,
a
46
47,
turnout
in
november
of
24
that'll
be
80,
and
what
the
fundamental
difference
isn't
so
much
a
partisanship
or
but
is
an
age
difference,
and
so
that
it
will
be
a
much
younger
group
of
voters
in
november
of
2024
when
we
have
a
presidential
election
than
it
will
be
this
year
and
and
this
year,
as
I
think
all
of
you
probably
know
from
watching
the
primary.
The
turnout
has
been
really
low.
A
Now
we
haven't
counted
everything
yet
and
it
starts
tonight,
but
but
it
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
record
low,
okay
and
just
a
quick
follow-up
when
we
spoke
previously
in
the
in
the
preview
to
this
meeting,
I
asked
specifically
about
what
information
we've
collected
in
the
survey
about
the
demographics
and
and
I'm
wondering
if
those,
if
those
results
agree
with
what
you're
saying
that
a
larger
young
turnout
would
make
a
difference
in
in
the
results
yeah.
I
think
it
would.
A
I
mean
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
the
turnout
age
looks
like
in
this
sample,
which
is
again
reflective
of
what
we
think
is
going
to
happen
in
november
of
this
year.
37
or
65
plus-
and
you
all
know
from
you
know,
being
san
bruno
residents
that
that's
not
the
population,
that's
the
likely
voters
in
a
low
turnout.
Election
29
are
50
to
64.,
so
the
vast
majority
are
over
50
years
old.
If
we
look
at
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum,
the
18
to
29
are
just
six
percent
of
the
turnout.
A
In
november
the
30-39s
are
14
and
40-49
rounding.
It
out
are
14
as
well.
So
that's
the
group
that
changes
dramatically
and
some
of
these
things
are
more
important
to
younger
voters.
A
Okay
and-
and
I'm
sorry-
I
wasn't
clear,
but
did
did
the
survey
confirm
that
the
younger
responders
were
more
favorable
than
the
others
in
general?
Yes,
but
part
of
the
issue
is
we
don't
actually
have
those
younger
voters
in
the
sample
that
will
be
voting
in
24.?
We
have
regular
younger
voters
which
are
not
quite
the
same
people.
A
So
when
I
say
it's
going
to
be
different
in
24,
that's
based
on
having
done
lots
of
these
kinds
of
surveys
and
measures
in
presidential
election
years
where
we
see
those
younger
voters
come
out
and
be
supportive
of
these
kinds
of
measures.
So
some
of
that
is,
you
know,
reading
reading
between
the
lines
a
little
bit:
okay,
okay,
yeah!
I
know
it's
it's
imperfect.
This
is
actually
better
than
what
we
would
normally
get
from
election
results,
because
in
the
election
results
we
don't
know
how
people
voted
in
this
case
attached
those
demographics.
A
So
thank
you
for
clarifying
sure,
counselor
medina.
A
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
the
vice
mayor
and
I
did
work
on
on
this.
Finding
the
poll
questions
and-
and
you
guys
did
a
really
good
job.
So
I
wanted
to
thank
you
on
that.
A
general
question
on
the
breakdown
of
the
data
collection,
for
the
very
first
slide
is,
is
that
the
typical
breakdown
in
in
the
manner
that
people
are
taking
surveys
now
or
is
that
kind
of
reflective
of
maybe
the
older
likely
voters
yeah,
that's
a
good
question.
It
is
become
typical.
A
You
know
there
are
still
a
few
people
that
answer
their
phones
and
lines
or
cell
phones,
but
it's
very
few,
and
well
as
little
as
four
years
ago.
Cell
phone
responses
were
our
mainstay.
They've
really
dropped
down
dramatically
because
you
know
what
we
all
do.
A
Is
we
look
at
the
number
and
we
don't
recognize
it,
and
we
don't
answer
it,
but
when
we
get
a
text
on
the
same
device,
we
read
it
right
enough
to
delete
it,
and
so
for
the
last
four
years
since,
since
the
2018
gubernatorial
election
texting
had
been
our
predominant
way
of
getting
text,
invitations
to
an
online
survey
has
become
the
predominant
way.
If
we
get
survey
responses.
A
We
get
an
equal
distribution
of
age
for
our
voter
universe,
regardless
of
which
type
of
interviewing
we're
doing
so,
even
if
we
just
did
texting,
we
could
still
have
a
representative
sample
based
on
age,
and
my
my
realization
is
that
seniors
of
which
I'm
almost
in
that
category
need
to
text
in
order
to
speak
with
their
grandkids
right,
because
that's
the
only
way
they
can
communicate
with
them
great.
I
I
I
did
like
that.
A
We
also
received
the
favorable
response
in
our
clovid
response,
and
my
last
question
really
is
the
breakdown
of
fire
station.
A
I'm
sorry
streets,
fire
station,
storm
parks
and
library
is
that
kind
of
of
other
surveys
that
you
conducted
is
is:
is
that
kind
of
the
norm
or
just
wanted
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
I'm
a
little
surprised
the
library
didn't
perform
as
well,
but
maybe
you
could
help
explain
any
any
analysis
of
the
data
yeah,
so
the
streets
fire
station
and
storm
drain
ordering
is
exactly
what
we
see
elsewhere,
as
is
the
library
what's
been
going
on
with
libraries,
since
probably
the
late
90s
is
support
for
buildings
has
continued
to
go
down,
which
is
not
to
say,
there's
no
support
because
obviously
we're
in
the
high
50s,
but
in
that
same
time
period
we've
seen
support
for
library
services
to
maintain
maintaining
very
high
numbers,
in
fact,
in
the
mid
70s
very
often
now
in
this
survey
this
was
an
infrastructure
bond.
A
So
we
were
talking
about
buildings,
so
that's
dropped
off
and
it's
dropped
off
elsewhere.
I've
got
two
surveys
I
did
in
another
nearby
county
in
the
bay
area
that
we're
putting
a
parcel
tax
measure
for
library
services
on
the
ballot
this
november,
but
we
tested
in
basically
the
same
community,
a
bond
measure
and
we're
not
so
it's
exactly
the
same
pattern
now
to
the
extent
that,
obviously,
you
can't
do
library
services
without
having
a
place
to
do
them,
and
therein
lies
the
catch.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much,
bringing
it
back
to
council
again.
This
is
just
a
presentation
to
be
received
which
we
have
and
we
appreciate
it,
seeing
that
no
other
hands
or
comments
at
this
time
is
there
anything
else,
city
manager,
that
we
I'm
sorry.
I
couldn't
tell
if
I'm
seeing
something
or
oh
there's
somebody
that
wishes,
I'm
not
seeing
the
hand,
but
I'm
being
I've,
got
marty
doing
this
to
me
and
I've
got.
B
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
that
that
councilmember
medina
and
I
met
with
our
consulting
group
and
for
quite
a
bit,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
our
questions
have
been
answered.
B
So
I
I
I'll
probably
ask
more
questions
in
the
following
items,
but
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
we
did
have
a
separate
session
and
had
an
opportunity
to
dive
into
a
lot
of
these
numbers.
So
thank
you.
A
Okay,
yes,
it
was
an
ad
hoc
committee
or
subcommittee
that
was
appointed
by
the
council,
and
I
know
each
of
us
have
had
an
opportunity
to
be
briefed
and
ask
more
detailed
questions
as
well.
So
each
of
us
have
had
that
opportunity
as
well
okay
hearing
and
seeing
nothing
else
at
this
time.
Thank
you
again
both
for
your
presentation
and
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
item
six
public
hearing.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
will
like
at
this
time
to
turn
it
over
to
our
city
manager,
javon
grogan,.
A
Okay,
I'm
up
once
again
so
good
evening
again,
members
of
the
city
council
on
the
public,
I'm
here
to
provide
a
presentation
with
regard
to
the
potential
ballot
measure
for
a
city
charter
and
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax.
So
we've
just
received
a
presentation
on
the
survey
results
and
we
have
three
other
items
tonight
this
one,
which
is
a
public
hearing
on
the
contents
of
the
city
charter.
A
Should
the
city
council
decide
to
place
a
charter
on
the
ballot
state
law
requires
that
you
have
two
public
hearings
and
so
we're
under
a
bit
of
a
tight
timeline,
and
we
wanted
to
as
we
support
the
city
council
through
its
deliberations,
ensure
that
we
are
having
the
prerequisite
meetings
to
allow
you
to
make
that
decision
to
place
it
on
the
ballot.
A
Should
you
decide
to
do
so,
and
so
our
presentation
tonight
has
a
few
items
we'll
go
through
a
little
background
about
how
we
got
here
and
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
we'll
do
a
recap
on
establishing
a
city
charter
we'll
provide
a
definition
of
commercial
property.
We
will
talk
about
tax
exemption
options.
A
We
will
talk
about
potential
commercial
property
transfer
tax
rates.
We
will
then
discuss
a
few
key
points
of
establishing
a
city
charter
timeline
and
then
have
city,
council,
discussion,
action
and,
of
course,
public
comment,
so
a
little
bit
of
a
backup.
So
if
we
go
back
to
october,
26
of
21
seems
like
a
long
time
ago,
but
it
wasn't.
A
We
held
a
study
session
with
the
city
council,
where
the
city
council
provided
direction
to
staff,
to
investigate
research
and
provide
you
as
a
body
with
policy
analysis
and
options
related
to
a
number
of
potential
valid
items
for
this
upcoming
november,
and
one
of
those
was
establishing
a
city
charter
and
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax
as
a
combined
measure.
A
And
so
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
a
charter
is
so
they're
in
california.
There
are
two
types
of
cities:
there
are
general
law
cities
and
there
are
charter
cities,
and
the
city
council
held
a
study
session
on
march
29th,
where
we
talked
about
this
in
detail
and
so
I'll
just
give
the
high
level
version.
But
if
you're
a
general
lost
city,
your
powers
are
really
just
derived
by
the
state
constitution.
A
However,
if
you're
a
charter
city,
you
have
more
control
over
your
municipal
affairs
and
you
can
chart
your
own
destiny
to
some
extent
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
differences
in
where
those
where
that
line
is
drawn.
But
you
have
more
power
over
zoning,
local
elections
and
other
matters
in
order
to
be
a
charter
city,
a
charter
has
to
be
drafted
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
state
law
requires
two
public
hearings
and
a
vote
of
the
people
at
a
statewide
general
election.
A
Important
to
note,
a
majority
of
voters
are
required
to
adopt
a
charter
at
that
meeting
on
march
29th.
We
really
talked
about
the
difference
between
establishing
a
charter
commission
or
having
the
city
council
develop
the
charter,
and
there
was
direction
provided
by
the
city
council
to
streamline
the
process
and
really
do
what
we
were
sort
of
casually
calling
a
simple
charter
or
what
cities
develop,
that
have
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax
integrated
within
the
charter.
A
Important
to
note
that,
in
order
for
a
city
charter
with
a
tax
measure
to
place
on
the
ballot
as
an
integrated
measure,
you
need
a
two-thirds
affirmative
vote
of
the
city
council
to
place
the
measure
on
the
ballot.
If
so,
here
in
san
bruno
having
five
members
of
the
city
council,
we
need
four
of
five
city
council
members
to
authorize
placing
the
integrated
measure
on
the
ballot.
A
Only
a
majority
of
voters
are
required
to
adopt
it,
but
it
does
take
what
is
called
a
super
majority
to
place
on
about
a
few
features
of
a
of
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax.
It
is
paid
upon
sale
of
property.
The
payment
can
be
negotiated
between
the
buyer
and
seller
as
a
form
of
that
transaction.
A
Key
issues
for
discussion
and
we'll
go
through
a
little
bit
of
how
you
define
commercial.
We
had
a
long
discussion
about
this
on
our
march
29th
meeting,
there's
also
options
for
property
exemptions,
one
is
to
exempt
residential
property
or
vent
property
based
on
certain
thresholds
and
one
option
as
a
certain
balance,
and
so
now,
let's
talk
about
types
of
commercial
property,
because
when
you
talk
commercial
property,
there
are
some
common
categories
that
come
to
mind.
A
The
first
category,
that's
shown:
there's
an
office
building
a
hotel
or
a
retail
structure,
common
commercial
property,
often
common
commercial
property,
is
industrial
property.
Warehouses
manufacturing,
what's
oftentimes,
not
immediately
thought
of
as
commercial
residential
or
multi-family
housing,
rental.
Distinguished
from
condominium
complexes.
That's
commercial
property
plan
unit
development.
A
So
if
you
have
a
plan
unit,
development
by
a
residential
or
commercial
developers,
actually
as
commercial
property
and
vacant
land,
if
sowned
appropriately
for
commercial
and
so
in
order
to
analyze
this
for
the
city
council,
as
we
talked
about
before,
we
did
a
tax,
simulator
simulation
analysis
and
we
needed
to
define
commercial
property,
and
so
we
use
the
definition
or
the
property
types
that
are
above,
but
the
key
distinguishing
factor
is
in
our
analysis.
A
Certain
trust
transfers.
Certain
court
order
convinces
conveyance
of
strictly
a
name.
Change
would
not
be
subject
to
the
tax
changes
in
the
method
of
how
you
hold
a
title,
maybe
holding
it
as
an
individual.
But
yet
you
set
up
an
llc
or
a
living
trust
that
would
not
trigger
a
payment
of
the
commercial
property
transfer,
tax
assignment
of
leases,
deed
to
a
public
entity
or
conveyance
made
in
lieu
of
foreign.
A
So
these
are
industry,
standard
exemptions
for
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax,
and
so
our
recommendation
is
that
would
apply
here
in
san
blue
as
well,
and
so
that
the
analysis
of
a
potential
commercial
property
transfer
tax
that
I
mentioned,
we
conducted
the
simulation.
So
we
analyzed
21
cities
in
the
bay
area
that
have
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax
and
we
estimated
the
revenue
in
san
bruno.
And
so
how
did
we
estimate
that
revenue?
A
We
estimated
that
revenue
on
a
look
back,
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax
is
subject
to
as
inflows
of
the
market
and
how
many
properties
actually
transact
each
year.
So
the
best
way
to
make
a
estimated
projection
is
to
look
back.
So
we
looked
back
five
years
and
acquired
from
the
county
of
detailed
transactional
data
on
every
commercial
property
that
transacted
in
san
bruno
and
so
depending
on
the
structure.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
A
The
analysis
shows
that
had
the
city
had
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax
in
place,
the
annual
revenue
would
have
been
on
the
low
year
on
the
lowest
tax
rates.
61
000
on
those
those
cities
with
the
highest
tax
rate,
the
highest
amount
that
we
would
have
received
is
2.7
million
important
to
note
in
san
bruno.
A
In
the
last
five
years,
we
have
had
some
fairly
large
properties
transact,
and
so
that's
why
you
see
that
very
large
range,
but
it's
also
very
dependent
upon
the
tax
rate
and
so
the
tax
rates
in
those
21
cities
that
we
surveyed
varied
some
cities
had
very
simple
structures:
zero,
eight
percent,
one
percent
and
other
other
cities
had
very
tiered
structures,
a
set
amount.
A
But
if
a
property
transacted,
let's
say
for
over
three
million
dollars
or
five
million
dollars,
the
tax
rate
increased
and
some
cities,
as
I
said,
have
simple
range
and
that
simple
range
was
.055,
which
is
the
basic
documentary
transfer,
tax
rate
to
1.3
and
so
staff
recommends.
A
Should
the
city
proceed,
staff
recommends
with
a
one
percent
tax
rate,
the
structure
being
it
would
apply
to
commercial
residential
properties
as
defined
earlier,
but
five
plexes
and
above
this
means
that
every
single
family
home
in
the
city,
as
well
as
every
duplex,
triplex
and
four
plex,
would
be
accepted
from
the
commercial
property
transfer
tax.
A
But
looking
back
and
applying
the
one
percent
model
annually,
the
the
revenue
to
the
city,
we
estimate
that
approximately
a
million
dollars
and
that
that
shown
stratified
at
the
bottom
of
slide,
nine,
with
the
revenue
from
commercial
residential
property
on
average
being
just
under
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
then
revenue
from
all
the
other
commercial
property
types.
Being
just
under
eight
hundred
thousand
or
seven
hundred
and
eighty
five
000.
again,
it
is
subject
to
actual
transactions
that
happen,
and
so
the
amount
will
vary.
A
Lastly,
let's
just
return
to
a
few
discussion
points
of
establishing
a
city
charter,
and
so
there
are
a
few
general
provisions
that
are
worth
noting,
and
so
first
general
provision
is
that
generally
cities
will
follow
state
law,
where
generally
the
city
will
follow
state
law
in
all
areas,
except
those
areas
that
are
stated
in
the
charter
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
and
as
we
talked
extensively
on
march
29th
is
that
becoming
a
charter
city
really
provides
a
broad
power
to
a
city
to
regulate
its
own
municipal
affairs.
A
It
also
includes
a
a
provision
that
the
city
will
continue
to
require
payment
of
prevailing
wage
per
state
law
at
applicable
to
general
law
cities.
So
currently,
because
we're
a
general
law
city
have
to
pay
prevailing
wage
and
our
contractors
have
paid
prevailing
wage
as
a
charter
city.
You
can
exempt
yourself
from
that.
A
We
certainly
did
not
want
to
do
that,
and
so
we've
included
that
provision
in
the
charter
and
within
the
body
of
the
charter.
It
is
important
to
define
a
commercial
and
so,
as
stated
before,
we
are
defined
commercial
as
by
your
typical
office,
hotel,
retail,
industrial
property,
commercial,
residential,
again
five
units
or
greater
plan
unit,
development
and
vacant
land,
and
so
just
to
text.
A
Lastly,
or
really
close
to
the
last
slide
on
the
process,
your
the
timeline,
it
requires
two
public
hearings.
There
are
state
mandates
on
the
amount
of
days
between
each
public
hearing,
so
there
must
be
30
days
between
the
first
and
second
public
hearing
and
more
than
a
21
day
notice.
So
we
we
are
all
set
to
comply
with
that
notice,
and
a
public
hearing
notice
was
posted
in
the
local
paper.
A
For
this
hearing
as
well,
it
is
also
important
to
note
that
the
city
council
will
need
to
schedule
a
special
meeting
on
august
3rd
in
order
to
finalize
and
provide
final
direction
on
all
of
your
ballot
measures
and
the
city's
deadline
eight
days
from
from
e
day
or
the
election
date.
A
We
in
all
other
cities
are
required
to
submit
our
ballot
measures
to
the
county
by
october
by
august
12th
and
so
we're
on
a
important
timeline.
A
lot
of
work
has
been
said
in
about
since
your
direction
in
october
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
meetings
on
it,
but
we
are
here
tonight
for
a
discussion
and
action
with
regard
to
the
draft
charter
language,
and
so
we
would
like
to
conclude
the
staff
presentation
and
alternate
mayor.
We
will
turn
it
back
over
you
for
additional
discussion
as
well
as
public
comment.
A
A
Should
the
city
council
desire
to
change
any
language
in
the
draft
charter,
we
will
require
a
formal
action,
but
but
it
could
simply
be
discussion
and
we
can
conclude
the
public
hearing
if
there
are
no
changes
without
an
action
item:
okay,
so
direction.
Unless
what
you
have
presented,
there's
any
question
for
modification.
Am
I
just
so
I'm
clear?
Yes,
thank
you,
sir.
All
right
with
that
said,
is
there
any
questions
on
the
presentation
from
colleagues.
A
At
this
time
I
mean
we
certainly
will
we'll
come
back
to
that.
Don't
worry,
councilmember
hamilton,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
I
just
want
to
get.
I
just
want
to
clarify
on
the
the
prevailing
wage
part
of
it.
So
the
reason
that
that's
in
there
is
because
we're
we're.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding.
A
Is
that
correct?
That
is
where
council
member
house,
okay?
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
was
understanding
that
properly
and
then
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna.
I
I
apologize
for
doing
doing
the
politician
thing
and
asking
a
question.
I
know
the
answer
to,
but
is
this
a
slippery
slope?
Is
this
one
of
those
things?
Where
is
it
where,
by
establishing
a
charter?
A
Now
that
gives
the
city,
the
city,
council
or
future
city
councils
a
tool
to
be
able
to
add
other
stuff
to
the
to
the
charter
without
without
the
consent
of
the
voters?.
A
Thank
you,
council
member
hamilton,
as
written
power
stays
with
the
voters,
and
so
we,
the
the
core
provisions
of
the
charter,
are
aligning
to
the
state
law
requirements
for
general
law
cities,
except
we're
explicitly
stated.
The
primary
component
is
the
commercial
property
transfer
tax.
If
I
read
in
between
the
lines
of
your
question
a
little
a
little
bit
because
I
haven't
been
talking
about
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax,
I
know
there
have
been
statements.
Well,
once
you
do
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax.
A
A
The
power
will
stay
with
the
voters,
and
so
as
structured
should
the
four
or
five
council
members
move
this
work
to
the
ballot,
and
should
the
majority
of
voters
say
yes
to
implement
the
charter
and
the
commercial
property
transfer
tax,
it
will
require
voter
approval
at
another,
regular
election
to
apply
that
tax
or
any
other
tax
to
single-family
home
homes
or
to
make
a
change,
and
so
the
power
is
still
progress
with
the
people.
A
Great
thank
you
and
I
I
appreciate
answering
the
questions
when
I
knew
the
answer,
but
you
know
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
over
the
past
months
and
years
talking
about
this,
this
this
topic
with
president-
and
that
was
a
very
that
was
a
very
popular
question,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
asked.
So
thank
you.
B
B
I
don't
see
a
lot
in
the
packet
around
the
exemptions,
exactly
what
they
mean,
and
so
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
go
into
that
right
now,
but,
aside
from
having
like
what
are
the
popular
exemptions,
I'm
not
sure
if
we're
saying
okay
by
not
saying
anything
on
them
tonight,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
those
exemptions.
How
do
they
apply
to
an
individual
versus
a
corporation,
in
particular.
B
B
B
B
B
The
interim
study
attorney
has
admitted
themselves
on
how
mr
ortiz,
please
take
it
away,
mr
mayor
and
council
member
mason,
so
the
charter,
the
way
it
works
is
it
provides
all
powers
to
the
city
unless
if
it
provides
a
limitation
unless
there's
a
limitation
specifically
named
in
the
charter,
so
otherwise,
if
it's
not
named
in
the
charter,
you
would
be
following
the
general
law
and
if
the
city
wanted
to
change
the
the
bidding
requirements,
it
would
have
to
adopt
an
ordinance
to
do
so.
B
Yes,
thank
you
so
just
to
be
clear.
The
under
the
it's
page,
65
of
the
packet,
everything
under
general,
lost
city
then
stays
in
place.
B
A
See
know
their
hands
right
at
this
moment
when
we
go
ahead
and
open
up
to
the
public.
This
is
a
public
hearing,
so
at
this
time
that
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
that
wish
to
speak
on
the
item.
If
you
could,
please
raise
your
virtual
hand
or
log
in
if
you're
on
the
phone-
and
you
will
be
brought
in
to
the
discussion.
A
Thank
you
again
last
call
that
this
is
a
public
hearing
and
once
we
close
the
public
hearing,
we
will
not
be
going
back
to
the
public
tonight.
Yes,
it
is
coming
back
again.
There
are
more
opportunities,
but
just
for
this
evening
last
time
to
ask
for
any
public
hearing
any
public
comments.
I'm
sorry
scene
still,
none
I'll
bring
it
back
to
council.
Ask
if
there
is
a
motion,
please
to
close
the
public
hearing.
A
A
Hi,
so
I
have
a
4-1
closed
public
hearing.
Public
hearing
is
closed
and
now
we
will
bring
it
back
to
council
councilor
medina.
A
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
think
this
question
will
be
for
our
new
city
attorney.
Welcome
in
the
presentation
there
was
a
mention
of
vacant.
Land
is
treated
as
commercial
now.
If
there
was
a
property
that
was
entitled
to
be
residential
property
and
it
just.
B
B
Sure,
mr
mayor
and
council,
member
medina,
I
will
let
the
city
manager
address
the
question
about
how
the
tax
is
structured,
but
I
will
start
by
saying
that
what
the
charter
does
is
simply
provide
state
that
the
charter
city
intends
to
exercise
the
power
of
levying
a
real
estate
transfer
tax.
There
will
then
be
an
ordinance
that
would
implement
the
tax
and
all
of
that,
all
of
those
specifics,
the
what
how
it
applies,
what
the
rate
is
and
which
properties
are
exempt
would
be
spelled
out
in
that
ordinance.
B
A
Council
members,
oh
I
apologize,
I'm
I'm
sorry
the
tricia
tesla
dead
to
the
city
manager,
after
my
apologies
city
manager,
yeah.
Thank
you
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
expound
upon
this
ortiz
answer
so
council,
member
medina,
in
regards
to
your
question
of
wouldn't
vacant
land
that
was
some
residential
have
to
pay
the
commercial
property
transfer
tax
that
would
be
subject
to
that
would
apply
to
commercial
properties,
five
years
of
war.
A
So,
as
the
city
attorney
said,
it
would
really
matter
on
how
we
drafted
the
ordinance.
But,
for
example,
if
you
had
a
single
parcel
that
was
known
as
r1
and
let's
call
it
an
interland
and
there
could
be
up
to
eight
units
per
acre
in
our
r1
zone.
It
is
possible
that
that
vacant
land,
because
more
than
one
more
than
four
units
could
be
built
on
that
parcel,
would
be
subject
to
the
commercial
property
transfer
tax
on
sale,
but
the
mechanics
and
the
details
would
have
to
be
worked
out
in
that
ordinance.
A
Council,
member
salazar,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
So
first
I
wanted
to
just
elaborate
on
my
no
vote
on
closing
the
public
hearing
and
my
concern.
Closing
the
public
hearing
is
that
this
is
probably
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we'll
discuss
this
year.
Next
to
the
the
districting
which
we
completed.
A
This
is
a
hugely
important
issue
to
the
city
and
how
the
city
is
governed
and,
judging
from
the
number
of
attendees
in
public,
I
I
think
I
count
one
member
of
the
public
that
I
recognize
among
the
12
attendees.
I
believe
everyone
else
is
staff
and
I
think
that's
reflective
of
the
poor
effort
that
we
made
as
a
city
in
letting
the
public
know
that
this
would
be
discussed,
that
this
was
one
of
only
two
opportunities
for
them
to
comment
and
that
we're
conducting
this
at
a
non-regular
meeting.
A
This
is
a
special
meeting,
not
one
that
people
would
normally
be
in
would
normally
have
on
their
calendar,
and
so
that
that's
why
I
was
not
in
favor
of
closing
the
hearing.
I
I
don't
think
we
did
the
process
just.
I
know
we
all
agreed
that
we
wouldn't
go
the
route
of
a
commission
to
create
a
charter,
and
we
we
all
agreed
that
we
wanted
to
do
this
quickly,
but
I
don't
believe
that
doing
this
in
this
manner
and
with
the
response
that
we're
getting
it
does
any
justice.
A
Nor
does
it
create
a
sense
of
trust
in
the
community
or
the
the
openness
or
transparency
transparency
that
are
really
a
hallmark
of
having
a
charter
city
where
more
powers
are
entrusted
to
the
local
government
and
many
of
the
checks
and
balances
that
the
state
rules
provide
are
largely
eliminated.
A
I
heard
two
conflicting
things
from
staff,
so
I
heard
the
city
manager
say
that
the
power
of
any
changes
remains
with
the
voters.
I
also
heard
our
city
attorney
tell
us
that
an
ordinance
could
modify
something.
That's
in
the
charter
once
that
power
is
given
to
the
council.
So
though,
I
believe
those
statements
are
in
conflict
and
I
believe
what
the
city
attorney
said
is
is
actually
true
and
that
we
would
have
the
ability
to
change
things
unless
they
were
specifically
prohibited
in
the
charter.
A
So,
based
on
that,
I
think
I'm
less
confident
than
council
member
hamilton
on
this,
not
being
a
slippery
slope,
because
while
we
may
be
well
intentioned
today,
some
future
council
may
have
some
other
ideas.
The
charter
is
silent,
in
fact
on
commercial
versus
residential.
So
that's
something
that
could
be
decided
by
ordinance
and
could
be
changed
by
a
majority
vote
of
the
city
council
in
the
future.
B
So
the
the
charter
could
not
be
amended,
except
for
by
a
vote
of
the
people
and,
yes,
you
would
adopt
rules
under
your
charter
by
ordinance.
However,
a
tax
measure,
even
though
it's
adopted
by
an
ordinance
still
under
the
state
constitution,
requires
voter
approval.
So
you
could
not
change
the
classifications
of
your
real
prop
real
property.
Real
estate
transfer
tax
to
expand
the
category
without
going
back
to
the
voters
and
getting
approval
of
that
measure.
A
And
when
the
charter
specifically
is,
is
purposely
general
enough,
where
there
are
no
limitations,
then
that
wouldn't
require
an
amendment
to
the
charter.
It
would
merely
require
a
change
of
how
we
interpret
that
to
to
apply,
because,
right
now
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
the
number
of
units.
It
doesn't
say
anything
about
commercial
versus
residential.
B
Right
as
part
of
the
measure,
so
the
voters
will
approve
a
charter.
They
will
always
also
be
approving
a
tax
ordinance
and
you
will
be
limited
to
only
those
things
that
are
in
the
tax
ordinance.
So
you
could
not
change
interpretations
in
a
way
that
broadened
the
tax
category
or
had
the
effect
of
increasing
the
tax
on
anybody.
Without
going
back
to
the
voters
for
approval.
B
Correct
and
so
what
typically
happens
is
you
have
a
ballot
measure
that
generally
describes
that
you're
approving
a
tax
but
in
the
ballot
materials,
is
the
actual
text
of
the
ordinance
that
the
voters
are
approving.
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right
and
then
just
finally,
you
know
under
article
six
of
what
was
proposed.
It
says
the
language
of
this
charter
is
intended
to
be
permissive
rather
than
exclusive
or
limiting
and
shall
be
liberally
and
broadly
construed
in
favor
of
the
exercise
by
the
city
of
its
power
to
govern.
A
So
to
me
that
that's
that
statement
is
is
concerning
again
because
it
I
I
believe
it
does,
leave
the
door
open
for
some
interpretation
of
you
know
what
powers
will
be
it
will
will
be
taken
on
in
the
future
and
again
without
a
lot
of
public
input.
I
I'm
not
comfortable
in
moving
forward
with,
what's
being
proposed.
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
city
manager
a
couple
of
just
comparison
questions
because
I
wasn't
on
the
council
when
measure
g
was
approved
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
was
the
requirement
for
measure
g
to
be
approved
as
far
as
the
population.
B
Measure
g
to
the
main
vice
mayor,
mason
measure
g,
was
a
general
tax
requiring
50
plus
one
okay
and
then
just
as
a
reminder.
What
is
the
requirement
for
this
one
50,
plus
one,
if
the.
B
Okay
and
were
the
limitation
on
words
any
different
than
they
are
now,
as
the
interim
city
attorney
articulated,
I
I
believe
for
all
ballot
measures,
or
certainly
for
mentorship
and
for
the
commercial
property
transfer
tax
that
work
that
we're
talking
about.
There
will
be
a
75
word
limit,
however.
The
details
are
in
an
ordinance.
A
That
are
also
included
in
people
or
pamphlets,
and
so
you
can't
fit
all
the
details
of
a
of
attacks
in
the
ballot
question,
which
is
why
state
law
requires
the
organization.
Yes,
you're
correct.
You
had
an
important
next
stop
for
renter
today,
and
there
would
be
one
for
the
commercial
property
transfer
tax
outline
details.
B
And
then
they
have
the
same
word
limit
yes,
okay,
great
and
then
for
the
measure.
G
did
those
were
those
if
you
recall,
were
those
hearings,
special
meetings
or
I
don't
know
if
you
recall
how
those
in
comparison
just
to
see
what
the
success
rate
is,
because
we
know
measure
g
passed.
So
what
was
the
comparison
as
far
as
attendance
at
those
means?
B
If
you
recall
vice
mayor
mason,
I
do
not
recall
whether
they
were
special
or
regular
meetings,
but
I
also
at
this
point
do
not
recall
if
state
law
requires
public
hearings
for.
A
General
sales
tax
vendors-
I
believe
they
do
not
so
I'm
not
sure
that
we
had
a
public
hearing
or
measure
key
and
I'm
not
sure
that
that
would
be
a
sort
of
the
annapolis
to
apple's
comparison.
B
Well,
especially,
I
don't
know-
I
I
think
anecdotally,
that
feels
true,
because
the
measure
g
tax
is
a
transactions
and
use
tax
that
you
pay
for
regular
retail
occurrences
as
well
as
it
is
paid
on
these
items.
So,
for
example,
in
san
bruno
buy
the
car
they
pay
that
measure
g
tax,
the
commercial
property
transfer
tax
is
a
tax
that
is
limited
to
commercial
property
as
defined
as
commercial.
B
So
I
think
the
sort
of
casual
understanding
is
yes,
more
individuals
will
slash
our
paid
with
the
american
tax
that
will
pay
the
commercial
property
transfers.
I
do
think
that
is
true,
okay
and
then
just
a
question
on
the
measure.
G
was:
what
do
you
recall?
Measure
g
was
supported
by
the
entire
council
unanimously.
A
I'm
trying,
let's
have
the
city
miniature
conclude,
but
I'm
trying
to
understand
we're
on
charter
city
and
a
transfer
tax.
Some.
A
Team
manager,
through
the
mayor
mason,
I
do
not
recall
the
actual
vote
from
the
council's
place
vendor
key
on
the
ballot.
That
is
a
verifiable
item
and.
B
Okay,
great,
then,
a
question
for
the
city
attorney
just
around
the
concerns
I
think,
with
commercial
versus
residential,
which
are
very
valid
concerns
that
council
member
sales
are
raised
is.
B
Is
there
a
way
to
be
clear
on
that
issue,
because
I
think
it's
very
important
that
voters
don't
feel
like
there's
a
bait
and
switch
happening
here,
and
so
how
would
you
recommend
that
we
be
as
clear
as
possible
that
this
is
really
intended
for
larger
commercial
owners
of
property,
so
the
ballot
measure,
I
believe
the
ballot
language
would
specify
mr
mayor
and
councilmember
mason.
B
So
it
would
be
there
and
that
so
the
ballot,
the
ballot
materials,
would
provide
the
detail
about
what
constitutes
commercial,
the
specific
definition
being
in
the
ordinance.
B
Okay,
and
thank
you
for
that,
and
then
just
one
one
question
in
the
comment
which
is
by
a
when
city
manager.
Does
this
have
to
be
decided
by
the
council
to
be
placed
on
the
ballot?
What's
the
latest
meeting,
I
should
say
so
the
decision
to
place
on
ballot.
As
noted
in
the
presentation
we
have
planned
for
a
august
3rd
meeting,
what
is
required
is
two
public
hearings
on
the
contents
of
the
charter.
B
B
B
Okay,
so
I
think
I
just
want
to
address-
I
think
councilmember
salazar's,
the
the
issue
he
raised
around
just
the
public.
B
I
think
it's
a
valid
concern
and
if
there's
nothing
stopping
us
from
doing
so,
is
there-
and
this
is
a
comment
but
also,
I
guess,
a
question
and
maybe
it's
a
vote-
that's
needed,
I
don't
know,
but
why
not
just
place
it
on
next
tuesday's
regularly
scheduled
meeting
and
then
I
know
the
end
of
the
month
is
going
to
be
busy
because
of
budget,
but
on
the
first
meeting
of
july's
meeting
is
off
and
it's
an
extra
hearing,
but
considering
nobody
spoke
today,
it's
not
it's
like
it's
providing
or
you
know,
asking
for
additional
time
of
any
of
us
really.
B
So
that
would
just
be
a
request
of
mine
just
to
address
the
concerns
that
councilmember
salazar
raised.
Thank
you
so
to
the
mayor.
In
regard
to
council
woman
vice
mayor
mason's
question,
there
are
notice
requirements
for
public
hearings.
I
do
not.
B
B
Okay.
So
if
I
got
a
regular
meeting,
but
we
have
a
number
of
special
meetings
planned
too
so
just
that
just
to
address
that
that
concern
and
we
there
could
be
social
media
roll
outs,
it
could
be
in
the
city
manager's
newsletter.
B
So
I
would
support
those
efforts,
and
maybe
that
just
means
that
there's
a
third
hearing
it
may
not
be
required,
but
I
don't
imagine
that
there's
something
stopping
us
from
having
a
third
hearing
date.
Thank
you.
A
That
could
be
a
good
two
and
a
half
to
three
hours
on
the
14th,
just
a
loan
for
that
and
the
other
items
of
business.
We
talked
about
the
manager's
newsletter
as
we
will
all
know
that
comes
out
at
the
end
of
the
month,
so
unless
he
has
a
special
edition
that
may
not
be
possible,
and
I
don't
think
city
manager
grogan
is
looking
for
a
special
edition
to
start
happening.
A
A
A
A
So,
as
vice
mayor
mason
mentioned,
whatever
the
city,
manager
and
staff
could
do
to
provide
some
addition,
additional
notifications,
even
having
another
meeting,
this
issue
is
so
important
that
it
would
be
great
to
be
able
to
get
5-0
going
forward
so
that
it's
absolutely
clear
that
the
intent
of
this
council
is
to
is
to
be
very
strategic
and
limiting
the
effect
of
this.
A
This
measure
on
its
residents,
and
especially
those
the
single
family,
homeowners
and-
and
it's
it's
that
important
and
this-
and
I
think
the
mayor
can,
if
you
can
help
me,
clarify
the
memory.
This
is
something
we
talked
about
a
number
of
years
ago
and
I
think
at
that
point
it
was
decided.
A
A
tax
measure
was
was
the
best
bang
for
our
buck,
and
it
proves
to
be
so
that
that
tax
measure,
a
measure
g,
is
closer
to
four
million
dollars
a
year,
and-
and
this
this
item
here
is-
is
about
a
million
dollars
a
year.
So
the
council,
at
that
point,
decided
to
move
forward
with
the
tax
measure,
and
here
here's
this
council
still
trying
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
raise
revenues
without
impacting
the
overwhelming
majority
of
our
residents,
and
this
is
how
we
do
it.
So
thank
you
for
the
question.
A
Councilman
salazar,
I
believe
we'll
be
able
to
work
through
that
and
increasing
the
attendance
in
the
future
is
something
that
we
should
be
looking
forward
to
not
only
for
this
item
but
for
all
of
our
items:
councilmember,
salazar.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
So,
first
of
all,
I
I
want
to
thank
vice
mayor,
mason
and
council
member
medina
for
supporting
the
idea
of
trying
to
get
broader
participation.
I
think
we
all
agree
that
this.
A
But
my
really
my
concern
is
less
around
the
tax
measure
itself,
but
it's
really
more
around
that
tax
measure
within
the
context
of
a
charter
and
being
a
new
power
that
the
city
hasn't
had
in
the
past
and
what
the
potential
implications
are
of
implementing
attack
measure
that
is
really
solely
under
the
discretion
of
the
city's
charter,
and
so
I
think,
I
think,
comparing
it
to
measure
g
well,
it
was
also
a
tap
measure
that
was
broadly
supported.
A
A
We
made
the
conscious
effort
to
address
the
the
the
labor
issue
and
that's
been,
I
think,
one
of
the
issues
that's
been
sort
of
confounding
a
lot
of
cities
that
are
adopting
charters
where,
if
that's
their
intent,
they're
likely
to
fail
because
of
labor's
involvement
in
in
fighting
those.
So
but
in
other
things
that
where
we
remain
silent,
I
I
believe
that
there
is
opportunity
for
those
things
to
be
changed
even
without
a
modification
to
the
charter.
A
So
really,
my
concerns
are
around
the
the
process
of
of
adopting
the
charter
and
less
around
whether
this
will
be
a
successful
ballot
measure.
I
I
think
the
polling
showed
that
it's
likely
to
pass.
A
I
don't
think
that
participation
in
our
meetings
generally
as
a
correlation,
has
any
correlation
to
whether
the
ballot
measure
will
be
successful.
For
me,
it's
really
about
the
process
and
making
sure
that
residents
have
an
opportunity
and
they're
made
aware
that
this
is
happening
and
not
occurring
a
vacuum.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
hamilton.
If
it's
with
your
permission,
may
I
go
to
city
hall
and
then
thank
you,
city
manager.
Sure
thank
you
mayor
medina.
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
one
thing
that
councilmember
salazar
said
because
I
I
totally
understand
the
apparent
conflicting
with
the.
A
Information
in
the
staff
report
in
the
presentation
and
the
draft
charter
saying
that
the
charter
does
align
to
state
law
except
we're
explicitly
committed,
but
then
the
other
statement
within
the
with
within
the
direct
charter
that
provides
sort
of
a
very
raw
interpretation
and
so
and
that,
combined
with
my
prior
statement,
saying
that
the
voters
have
control
what
I
was
referencing
was
changing
changes
to
the
tax.
A
I
do
think,
though,
that
because
this
is
the
first
public
hearing,
the
next
public
hearing
that
is
currently
scheduled
for
june
28th,
what
staff
can
do
with
work
with
the
city
attorney's
office
and
provide
a
very
clear
outline
articulation
around
what
can
be
changed
by
an
ordinance
that
that
future
city
councils
could
adopt
and
what,
within
the
the
charter
can
only
be
changed
by
both
of
the
people.
A
I
I
do
think
provide
a
very
clear
articulation
of
that
which
is
not
not
here
now
would
be
helpful
because,
certainly
with
regard
to
the
tax
and
the
ordinance
that
would
be
implemented
and
is
required
to
be
on
the
ballot,
that
cannot
be
changed
without
people
to
the
people.
But
there
are
other
provisions
that
could
be
enacted
by
ordinance,
and
so
why
don't
we
sort
of
suggest
I'm
hearing
from
council
between
first
public
hearing
and
second
public
hearing,
provide
a
very
clear
articulation
of
that,
as
well
as
analysis
around.
A
A
A
One
comment
that
you
made
in
your
when
you
spoke
last
was
that
the
the
concern
of
of
putting
the
the
controls
for
the
for
this
tax
solely
under
the
discretion
of
the
charter-
and
you
know
I
interpret
that
as
being
solely
under
the
discretion
of
the
voters,
because
the
charter
kept
changed
without
the
without
the
approval
of
the
voters,
and
my
question
was
going
to
be
what
what,
if
any
new
powers
would?
Would
the
city
council
be
granted
under
a
charter
that
are
not?
A
You
know
they're
not
explicitly
spelled
out
in
the
charter,
so
I
I
absolutely
am
in
favor
of
of
what
the
city
manager
just
suggested,
bringing
that
information
back
for
for
our
next
meeting,
so
that
we
can
explore
that
nice
room.
Amazing.
B
B
Is
that
right,
the
sort
of
mayor
vice
basis
all
depends
on
if
they're,
substantive
or
not,
and
so
I
think,
that's
the
team
based
on
the
noticing
requirements
and
the
requirements
to
have
two
public
hearings.
A
B
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
and
then
my
last
question
is
just
we
had
had
some
discussion
around
the
creation
of
a
charter
committee
and
we
said
that
that
would
be
after
the
passing
of
the
you
know
after
the
hopefully,
the
passing
that
this
would
be
placed
on
the
ballot
and
then
hoping
the
public
would
approve
it.
But
would
that
conversation
just
happen
at
a
later
time
in
the
fall
at
some
point
subject
to
direction
from
the
city
council
just
expound
upon
what
you
said
vice
mayor
mason.
B
It
is
true
that
at
the
29th
study
session
a
number
of
potential
ads
or
mechanisms
or
items
that
could
be
included
in
the
charter
were
discussed.
The
city
council
had
a
discussion
and
made
very
clear
direction
that
it
would
be
a
simplified
charter
with
really
the
expressed
intent
being
to
allow
a
commercial
property
transfer
tax.
B
But
there
were
members
of
the
city
council.
That
said
well.
Should
the
charter
be
adopted,
I
would
look
forward
to
the
city
establishing
a
charter
committee
to
discuss
other
things.
I
do
believe
that
the
intent
of
that
discussion
and
those
other
things
were
things
that
would
require
voter
approval
and
would
have
to
go
to
the
voters.
Later
and
again.
B
We
will
provide
a
very
clear
articulation
of
based
on
the
wording,
the
draft
wording
that
has
been
prepared
for
for
the
charter,
what
can
be
changed
ordinance
and
what,
as
written,
would
have
to
be
changed
by
okay.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
bringing
this
back
to
us.
This
is
we've
had
a
lot
of
large
properties
sold,
so
it'll
be
nice
to
get
some
of
that.
Some
of
that
revenue.
Thank
you.
A
Don't
remember
hamilton
so
and
this
this
might
be
if
it's
possible,
this
might
end
up
being
that
some
standard
change
that
would
start
to
press
the
process
again,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask:
is
it
possible
to
include
language
in
the
charter
that
is
ridiculously
explicit,
stating
that
this
charter
does
not
grant
the
the
city
council
any
additional
powers
over
beyond
what
what
they
would
be?
A
What
they're
allowed
under
general
law,
unless
explicitly
stated
in
this
charter
is
that
is
that
a
provision
that
could
be
added
to
the
charter
to
make
it
crystal
clear
that
there's
no
end
around
there's
no
seating,
there's
no
potential
ways
of
now.
We
can
pass
an
ordinance
that
we
couldn't
have
before
that
sort
of
thing
who
wants
to
take
that
question
on
by
staff
and
councilmember
hamilton.
A
Anything
else
why
I
have
staff,
oh,
and
I
understand
that
that
might
not
be
a
question
that
could
be
answered
right
now
and
I'm
like
might
be
part
of
the
analysis.
That's
that
we've
already
asked
to
take
place
for
our
next
week,
understood:
okay,
I'm
seeing
no
other
hands
up
from
my
colleagues
I
wanted
to,
and
so
I
think
everybody's
had
an
opportunity
a
couple
times.
So
I'd
like
to
have
my
opportunity
and
bring
some
of
my
my
my
questions
forward,
one
is
and
again
steph.
A
I
I
totally
understand
if
it's
not,
you
know
not
the
answers,
I'm
just
maybe
some
of
it's
just
some
of
the
statements
I
do
you
know
I
think
it's
one
percent
right
that
was
raised
for
the
transfer
tax.
That
was
one
percent
determined,
unlike
maybe
sato,
has
a
half
a
percent.
Why?
A
When
we're
starting
to
gauge
commercial
as
residential
at
the
five
unit,
why
was
five
marked
and
not
ten?
Twenty
does
that
and
yes,
city
manager?
I
know
I
tend
to
ask
a
lot
of
questions
at
once
and
it's
a
little
pause
after
this.
Are
we
having
a
stumbling
block
in
housing
now,
so
we
have
housing?
Let's
say
we
have
a
non-profit
entity
that
wants
to
develop
housing
and
then
there's
a
transfer
tax
that
happens
on
this
development
and
so
we're
trying
to
get
housing.
A
But
yet
can
this
also
hamper
us
to
be
housing.
So
that's
some
of
my
concerns
about
making
it
more
difficult
when
we're
being
asked
that
it's
hard
enough
to
try
to
get
housing
and
affordable
housing
and
now
here
we're
putting
this
extra
burden
on
I'll
pause
there.
But
I
have
one
and
if
there's
no
answer,
that's
totally
understandable,
just
I'll
just
have
my
comments
noted
sure.
Thank
you,
mayor
medina
for
those
first,
three
questions.
A
Why
one
percent
we
did
survey
as
mentioned
21
cities
and
the
cities
that
had
a
simple
percent
structure,
it
really
ranged
from
point
zero,
five,
five
percent
to
one
point:
three
percent.
As
we
looked
at
what
could
be
generated
based
on
the
sales
over
the
past
five
years
and
talked
with
these
cities
about
consultants,
it
was
really
determined
that
one
percent
was
a
simple
structure
that
would
not
feel
that
the
city
was
overreaching.
A
It
was
something
that
people
could
easily
calculate
on
what
their
tax
rate
would
be.
With
regard
to
the
question
of
why
five
units,
why
not,
why
not
10
units?
What
we
analyzed
is:
where
would
the
threshold
be
vis-a-vis
a
duplex,
triflex,
four-plex,
etc,
and,
as
we
looked
at
the
actual
commercial
properties
that
transacted
in
over
the
last
five
years,
sometimes
there
was
not
a
four
bit
four
unit
building
that
transacted
or
500
billion
that
transacted,
and
so
it
seemed
appropriate
to
start
the
commercial
property
tax
at
five
units.
A
I
believe
it
prior
city
council
meetings
on
this.
It
was
mentioned
that
you
could
have
an
owner
by
a
duplex
or
triplex
and
with
some
larger
properties,
maybe
having
a
unit
within
the
property
and
adding
an
apu
that
sometimes
even
a
triflex
could
really
feel
like
an
over-occupied
unit,
and
it
just
seemed
when
we
looked
at
the
potential
revenue
generation
and
the
benefit
to
really
exempt
owner
occupied
a
single
family
homes
or.
A
Is
where
we
landed
with
regard
to
the
city's
desires
to
achieve
additional
housing
development
and
our
housing
element
goals?
A
A
Certainly,
taxes
can
add
costs
to
development,
but
without
sort
of
more
analysis
on
that,
I
really
don't
want
to
open
without
really
understanding
and
have
a
project
understood-
and
I
know
we're
going
to
hear
this,
but
it
was
in
the
the
presentation
that
we
had
about.
A
You
know
waiting
for
a
bond
in
2024
because
of
the
fact
of
the
voter
turnout,
which
is
unfortunately
not
it's
not
well.
So
you
know
it's
it's
it's
unfortunate.
What
what
we're
going
to
probably
see
it's
turnout,
but
we're
talking
about
waiting
until
the
more
appropriate
time
when
it
increases
in
the
voter
turnout
and
in
2024..
So
why
would
he
which
could
be
a
negative,
especially
in
this
climate?
B
I
don't
know
about
that
mayor,
I'm
just
playing
yeah
as
professional
staff.
We
want
to
provide
the
city
council
with
advice
and
analysis,
but
not
necessarily
a
conjecture
on
how
things
may
be
perceived
by
members
of
the
public,
but
also
really
respect
the
very
difficult
policy
decisions
that
the
city
council
has
to
weigh
and
so
whether
a
tax
measure
goes
in
22
or
24.
I
totally
understand
that
voter
turnout
is
a
factor.
B
What
I
would
respond
to
is
from
there's
a
slide
in
a
presentation
that
we'll
see
so
on
our
infrastructure
bond
that
talks
a
little
bit
about
the
infrastructure
needs
for
the
city
of
san
bruno
and
when,
when
the
council
directed
that
we
institute
development
impact
fees,
what
the
analysis
showed
is
that,
over
the
next
20
years,
we
need
about
456
million
dollars
to
invest
in
our
infrastructure
development,
and
we
know
with
impact
fees,
can
only
pay
their
fair
share
and
a
portion.
A
Development
is
paying
about
35,
there's
about
310
million
dollars
that
this
city
needs
to
find
to
fund
its
infrastructure
needs
over
the
next
20
years,
and
so
I
do
think-
and
I
know
the
city
council
has
directed
this
because
of
our
fiscal
sustainability
project
and
all
of
the
revenue
strategies
that
you
have
is
really
taking
a
deep
dive
and
recognizing
our
infrastructure
and
our
financial
challenges
and
saying.
A
Where
can
we
look
for
additional
revenue,
because
there
are
certainly
price
sensitivities
of
on
all
strengths:
right,
single
family
homes,
commercial
properties,
everyone
in
the
community?
But
we've
engaged
in
this
analysis
and
these
revenue
conversations,
because
the
magnitude
of
the
challenge
that
we
face
in
surrey-
and
you
know
deciding
on
what
taxes
are
appropriate
and
what
additional
revenue
measures
we
pursue
totally
recognize-
are
very
challenging
conversations
for
electives
elected
officials
in
the
community,
appreciate
it
city
manager.
A
I
obviously
my
question
has
sparked
hands
so
because
I'm
trying
to
get
through
my
questions
but
but
but
I'm
going
to
be
switching
gears,
so
we
might
as
well
get
it
while
we're
on
this
gear.
Here
before
we
switch
gears,
councilmember
medina,
then
councilmember
hamilton.
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
might
be
really
short.
The
the
data
from
the
poll
pretty
much
suggests
that
it's
fine
to
go
ahead
in
this
election
to
proceed
with
this
charter
city,
so
waiting
for
2024
would
mean
two
years
of
lost
revenue.
A
Just
asking
the
question
council
member
hamilton,
I
had
a
similar
comment
and
then
the
only
reason
I
put
my
end
up
was
because
you
know
the
the
city
manager
you
know
said
rightly
so
that
you
know
the
staff
is
just
you
know,
trying
to
say
no,
not
partial
on
those
those
types
of
questions
and
and
speculating
on
what
the
voters
would
think
the
concern
you
brought
up
regarding
regarding
the
you
know,
the
price
of
gas
and
how
that
would
have
been.
A
You
know
the
the
general
squeeze
that
we're
all
feeling
and
how
that
would
affect
folks
voting
on
this.
A
I
think
that
absolutely
applies
to
the
to
a
potential
infrastructure
bond,
but
not
so
much
here,
because
you
know
unless,
unless
that
person
you
know,
owns
a
large
commercial
property,
it's
not
going
to
affect
them
at
all,
and
that's-
and
that's
really
kind
of
the
whole
point
here
is
to
try
to
address
that
300
plus
million
dollars
of
unfunded
unfunded
need
that
we
have
in
san
bernardino
without
doing
it
on
the
backs
of
of
our
of
our
citizens,
and
this
isn't.
This
is
a
meat
of
doing
that.
You
know
I
like
that.
A
The
one
example
that
I
that
I
will
continue
to
be
into
the
ground
was
the
the
sky
park
sales,
which
was
that
was
that
was
nearly
700
thousand
dollars
that
would
have
come
to
the
city
from
the
literally
the
richest
company
on
the
planet,
so
it
would
affect
the
no
no
in
the
in
san
bruno,
except
for
all
of
us
who
have
been,
who
would
benefit
from
having
those
extra
funds
to
put
towards
all
those
things.
Thank
you.
Vice
mayor
mason,.
B
Yeah-
and
I
would
just
echo
my
colleagues
and
saying
that
you
know
to
the
idea
of
just
waiting-
this
did
come
to
us
in
2020.
I
was
the
only
council
member
that
supported
it
moving
forward.
B
Since
then,
amazon
has
purchased
the
property
at
sky
park,
youtube,
purchased,
property
and
tanfran
has
sold
for
almost
over
300
million
dollars,
so
we've
had
over
400
million
dollars
of
land
sales,
just
in
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
or
so
so
I
don't
know
that
we
want
to
wait
any
longer
and
I
think
that
the
more
support
we
have
from
the
council,
the
more
likely
that
this
will
be
successful
at
the
ballot
box.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
hopefully
my
next
round
doesn't
get
more
hands
so
that
we
can
move
on
with
the
meeting
as
well
another
another
suggestion
and
and
councilman
sales
are
raised,
that
council
member
hamilton
raised
it
and
I
know
not
expecting
an
answer
because
it
was
going
to
come
back.
So
I
get
that
and
that's
just
in
regards
to
the
the
charter
city
and
what
it
does
allow
we've
already
addressed
a
little
bit
of
public
contracts
that
came
up.
That
was
one
of
my
concerns.
A
When
I
say
address
it
was
raised.
So
that's
that's
out
there.
Payment
of
prevailing
wages
has
been
dialogued
about,
but
you
know
they're
they're,
whether
it's
legislative
authority,
whether
it's
finance
and
taxing
power
etc,
but
as
an
example
as
an
example.
What
I
think
council
member
salazar
was
indicating
and
what
I
am
is
council
member
compensation
and
the
sense
reimbursement
unless
I'm
misinterpreting
this
attorney.
You
can
tell
me,
under
a
charter
city,
may
stop
it
says
it
may
establish
council
members,
salaries,
see
california
constitution
united
city
is
to
provide
any
type
of
compensation.
A
A
They
set
their
own
salaries,
so
these
are
the
type
of
things
that
are
also.
You
know
it's
great
that
my
colleagues
wanted
to
talk
about.
You
know:
hey,
there's,
there's
potential
for
some
one-time
monies,
but
also
all
of
the
other
elements
that
go
around
with
the
charter
city
is
what
I'm
also
looking
at
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
that's
it.
A
So
a
lot
of
other
things
have
already
been
said
and
again
city
manager
and
not
looking
for
any
comments,
because
I
think
it
goes
back
to
some
of
the
other
questions
that
colleagues
have
asked
that
could
come
back.
The
manager
with
that
said.
Is
there
anything
else
that
you
need
from
us
at
this
time?
A
No,
the
just
to
be
clear.
I
think
the
main
takeaway
that
we
have
the
city
council
is
requesting
additional
information
on
what
powers
the
city
would
have
under
the
polls
charter
of
what
can
be
in
general,
changed
by
ordinance
of
the
city
council
and
what
would
require
voter
approval.
A
The
next
the
second
public
hearing
on
the
contents
of
the
charter
is
scheduled
for
june
28th,
and
the
city
council
has
already
directed
that
we
employ
additional
outreach
efforts
with
regard
to
drumming
up,
hopefully,
more
members
of
the
public
that
can
either
write
in
before
the
meeting
or
attend
the
meeting
and
articulate
their
desires
to
the
city
council,
and
so
we
will
certainly
implement
a
more
robust
communication
plan
and
if
that
means
doing
another
newsletter
or
a
special
issue
or
a
special
email,
you
know
whatever
we
need
to
do.
A
But
we
hear
you
and
we
will
implement
that.
Thank
you
very
much
to
everyone
with
that
said,
we
will
conclude
item
six,
which
will
bring
us
to
item
seven,
which
is
our
study
sessions.
We
have
two
items:
item
a
is
receive
presentation
and
provide
direction
on
potential
november,
2022
ballot
measures,
guarding
the
elected
mayor
system
and
an
act
term
limits
to
the
elected
mayor
and
council
and
council
offices,
and
we
will
turn
this
over
to
our
city
manager
once
again
for
our
his
presentation.
Please.
A
Hey
I'm
at
the
podium
once
again
so
good
evening,
mayor
medina
members
of
the
city
council,
members
of
the
public.
We
are
here
to
discuss
two
potential
validities
that
the
city
council
requested
that
staff
look
into.
So
this
is
item
7a
a
study
session.
So
our
agenda
is,
we
will
provide
some
background.
A
A
Last
year
on
october,
26
21,
the
city
council
held
a
study
session
to
discuss
several
potential
ballot
items
and
you
directed
staff
to
research
and
do
a
lot
of
policy
analysis
for
you
and
the
two
again
that
we're
here
to
discuss
is
changing
the
mayor
election
system
here
in
san
bruno
and
establishing
term
limits
for
both
the
mayor
and
council
offices.
So
why
don't
we
begin
first
with
a
little
history
of
the
elected
mayoral
system
here
in
san
diego
and
so
state
law.
A
We've
done
both
in
our
history
here
in
san
bernardino.
However,
it's
important
to
note
that
in
1977,
a
ballot
measure
measure
f
established
a
elected
mayor
by
the
people
in
san
bruno,
and
that
was
a
two-term
mayor.
That
doesn't
mean
measure
key,
but
I
actually
think
that's
measured.
That
should
be
measurable,
but
the
mayor
in
san
bruno
now
runs
every
two
years.
It
is
a
two-year
term.
As
per
1977..
A
A
vote
of
the
people
is
required
for
the
city
council
to
select
the
mayor,
if
adopted
by
the
people,
the
change
would
up
would
be
prospective,
and
so
it
would
not
take
effect
until
2024,
and
so
because
it
was
adopted
by
voters.
They
can
only
be
changed
by
voters
and
san
bruno,
as
we
know,
is
currently
the
only
city
in
the
county
with
an
elected
mayor's
position.
A
So
now,
let's
discuss
term
limits
and
at
your
march
29th
meeting
of
2022,
the
city
attorney
provided
a
presentation
and
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
ebb
and
flow
and
the
history
of
term
limits
in
dan
bruno,
and
I
will
highlight
that
briefly.
So
in
1977,
a
bellwether
year
for
belt
measures
in
the
city
of
san
bruno
voters
established
a
term
limit
of
two
consecutive,
four-year
terms
for
city
council
members
in
79.
A
A
But
state
of
california
is
frequently
changing.
In
1995
state
law
was
amended
to
clearly
authorize
the
establishment
of
term
limits,
buy
a
vote
of
the
people,
and
so
now
term
limits
are
legal
in
california.
A
There
are
a
number
of
cities
that
currently
have
tournaments
in
in
san
mateo.
County
foster
city
has
a
two
two
consecutive,
four-year
term
limit,
so
eight
years
middle
grade
has
the
same.
The
city
of
san
mateo
has
three
consecutive
four-year
terms.
Redwood
city
has
four
consecutive,
four-year
terms.
16
years,
pacifica
has
two
four-year
terms
in
total,
whether
consecutive
or
not
san
mateo
has
the
county
has
three
consecutive
four-year
terms.
12
years
and
the
15
remaining
cities
have
no
terminals
so
a
bit
of
a
mixed
bag.
A
Now,
for
a
little
bit
more
background
at
your
study
session
on
march
29th,
you
discussed
in
detail
a
number
of
these
of
your
potential
ballot
measures
and
with
specific
regard
to
the
change
in
the
mayoral
position,
you
directed
a
few
things
one
for
the
potential
ballot
measure.
The
mayor's
position
should
rotate
among
the
five
district
council
members.
A
The
individual
that
would
be
selected
to
serve
as
mayor
would
be
selected
annually
by
the
city
council,
and
the
mayor
must
be
a
member
of
the
city
council
representing
one
of
the
five
districts
a
little
bit
of
the
same.
But
if
we
go
through
them
individually
there
there
are
certainly
nuances
there,
and
this
was
your
direction
to
staff,
has
been
prepared
a
potential
ballot
item
for
you
not
at
that
same
meeting
with
regard
to
term
limits
and
that
potential
measure.
A
The
city
council
is
very
clear
in
stating
that
the
service
limit
on
the
city
council
would
be
limited
to
three
consecutive
terms
in
a
total
of
12
years,
because
for
members
of
the
city
council,
there
are
four-year
terms
and
the
term
limits
would
apply
to
all
members
of
the
city
council,
including
the
mayor,
a
little
bit
more
background,
the
potential
ballot
measure
or
whether
term
limits
mayoral
change
or
a
combination
of
the
two.
A
As
you
know,
the
city
hired
polling
consultants,
and
at
that
march
29th
meeting,
we
did
provide
a
recommendation,
which
is
that
the
city
considered
combining
the
measures
and-
and
that
came
from
the
city's
polling
consultant,
really
looking
at
the
landscape
potential
measures
that
the
city
was
looking
at
and
saying
that
combining
them
is
totally
legally
possible
and
it
may
streamline
the
ballot.
But
but
a
policy
conversation
for
the
city
council
and
the
the
city
would
review
proposed
language
for
the
city.
A
Develop
proposed
language
for
a
separate
and
combined
measure,
and
we'll
talk
about
that.
So,
let's
take
term
limits.
First,
should
the
city
council
decide
on
a
standalone
term
limit
ballot
measure?
We
have
provided
a
sample
word
and
I
will
read
that
for
terms
starting
after
the
effective
date
of
this
election.
A
A
A
It
is
a
decision
of
the
city
council
to
align
your
term
limits
for
the
city
council
and
have
that
be
the
same
as
the
term
limits
for
the
for
for
the
mayor
and
make
them
both
12-year
terms,
and
so
what
that
would
be.
If
you
wanted
to
line
the
mayoral
term
two
three
consecutive
terms
it
would
be-
or
if
you
wanted
to
align
the
number
of
years,
it
would
be
six
consecutive
two-year
terms,
which
would
be
a
total
of
12
years.
A
But
in
the
draft
language
staff
in
the
city
attorney's
office
wanted
to
align
with
your
direction,
which
was
three
consecutive
terms,
but
know
that
for
council
members,
if
the
mayoral
election
process
is
not
changed
and
it's
a
stand-alone
measure,
if
you
have
a
decision
to
make
12
years
for
council
members
and
12
years
for
the
mayor
or
vice
versa,
but
because
the
mayor
currently
has
two
year
terms,
you
just
just
need
to
adjust
the
number
of
consecutive
terms.
A
Okay,
for
a
stand-alone
item
for
elected
for
the
elected
mayoral
system,
the
city
attorney's
office
has
prepared
a
potential
language
which
is
shall
the
number
of
city
council
districts
be
expanded
from
four
to
five,
with
the
mayor
chosen
annually
by
by
the
council
from
amongst
its
members
rather
than
a
separately
elected
every
two
years?
A
And
so
that
is.
Should
this
question
to
change
the
1977
ballot
measure
to
have
five
council
districts
and
then
they're
selected
from
amongst
the
council
members.
This
is
a
language
that
does
meet
the
stake.
Five
word
count
and
will
accomplish
that.
A
The
next
option
is
to
have
a
combined
measure
and
that
an
example
of
the
wording
of
that
is
as
follows:
to
reform
local
elections
shall
one
council
members
be
limited
to
three
consecutive
four
year
terms
and
the
mayor
be
limited
to
three
consecutive
two-year
terms,
with
no
limit
on
the
number
of
terms
served
and
shall
the
number
of
city
council
districts
be
expanded
from
five
four
to
five,
with
the
mayor
chosen
annually
by
the
council
from
amongst
its
members
rather
than
being
separately
elected
every
two
years
and
again,
there's
the
same
question
embedded:
here's
do
you
adjust
the
term
limit
and
have
all
council
members
have
the
total
number
of
years
of
the
council
member
and
the
mayor
adjusted
next
steps.
A
We
would
receive
feedback
and
direction
from
the
council
tonight.
Staff
will
prepare
staff
reports,
resolutions
and
ordinances
for
two
separate
measures
or
one
combined
measure,
and
again
this
is
draft
language.
We
can
certainly
modify
looking
at
it.
Certainly
we
can
discuss
modifications
tonight
either
for
the
standalone
measures
or
the
combined
measures.
There's
we
do
not
have
the
requirement
for
public
hearings
for
this
item,
and
so
the
language
would
not
need
to
be
final
until
the
august
3rd
special
meeting
date,
where
the
city
council
would
provide
final
directions.
A
So
that
concludes
the
staff
presentation
and
we
are
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
City
manager,
questions
from
colleagues.
A
So
thank
you
for
the
for
the
presentation,
the
looking
at
the
the
option
for
combining
combining
a
measure
and
I
and
that
you
know
there
was
the
recommendation
that
they
that
they
be
combining.
We
heard
in
the
in
the
previous
session
on
the
polling
data
that
perhaps
the
strong
yes
for
the
strong
support
for
term
limits
would
carry
the
the
not
so
strong
support
for
the
rotating
mare,
because
the
opposite
also
be
true.
A
If
you
combine
those,
if
you
combine
those
two
measures
into
one
could
be
tepid
at
best
support
for
rotating
mare
that
we
saw
in
the
polling
data.
Bring
that
bring
it.
You
know,
bring
it
down
so
that
so
that
term
limits
are
no
longer
would
no
longer
be
supported,
because
people
would
be
would
not
want
to
be
voting
for
the
rotating
airport.
A
That
is
possible
to
the
mayor
of
council
member
now
that
that
is
possible,
and
I
was
looking
to
see
if
our
full
balance
consultants
were
still
on,
but
they
are
not
that's.
Certainly
not.
I
won't
do
that.
A
A
B
Thank
you.
Should
we
be
clear
in
the
item
it's
page
82,
but
the
in
the
packet
and
it's
the
language.
Regarding
terms,
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
should
be
clear
that
the
three
consecutive
four-year
terms
result
in
terming
out,
because
then
it
goes
straight
to
with
no
limit
on
the
total
number
of
terms
served.
B
So
if
I
I
mean,
if
I
didn't,
you
know,
know
a
whole
lot
about
what
was
going
on,
I
might
think
what?
What
exactly?
Does
that
mean?
If
we're
saying
limited
to
three
consecutive
four-year
terms
and
the
elected
mayor
limited
to
three
consecutive
two-year
terms,
with
no
limit
on
the
total
number
of
terms
served,
it
actually
makes
it
sound.
A
B
Mr
mayor
vice
mayor
mason,
can
you
just
point
me
again
to
the
page
that
you
are
that
your?
If
the
question
is
yeah,
let's
go
back
up,
it's
page
82
out
of
85.
and
at
the
top
of
the
page
it
says
discussion
for
the
ballot
measure
regarding
term
limits.
Only
the
language
could
read
as
follows
for
terms
starting
after
the
effective
date
of
this
election,
shall
council
members
be
limited
to
three
consecutive
four-year
terms
and
the
elected
mayor
limited
to
three
consecutive
two-year
terms,
with
no
limit
on
the
total
number
of
terms
served.
B
So
I
understand
that
I'm
just
thinking
because
we've
been
working
on
this,
I'm
just
wondering-
and
this
may
even
be
for
our
consultants-
I
just
with
no
mention
of
actually
leaving
the
position.
I
wonder
if
that
should
be
mentioned
in
here
and
if
there's
room
for
that
to
be
in
here.
B
Yep,
that's
it
so
mention
of
leaving
the
position.
Yes,
the
idea
of
the
term
limits
is
that
you
would
serve
three
consecutive
four-year
terms.
You
have
to
step
out
and
step
away
and
but
you're
not
forever.
You
know
excommunicated
for
terms
of
like
a
better
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
You
can
go
back
and
run
again,
and
I
just
wonder
if
that
is
if
that
would
be
clear
based
on
the
language
here.
B
B
A
All
I
absolutely
get
it
and
what
I
was
going
to
ask
was
was
this
the
language
that
was
used
when
pulling
this
question
that
was
always
going
to
ask
yeah
no
problem
speak
to
whether
it's
confusing
or
not.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
had
cut
cutter
her
off
from
having
something
else
or
expounding
city
city
manager
and
then
councilman
medina.
A
So
I'm
looking
at
the
survey
now
to
answer
the
question
of
was
this
the
specific
language
that
was
used
when
the
question
was
called
for.
A
The
last
no
so
the
with
no
limit
on
the
number
of
turfs
term
served
was
not
in
the
poll.
This
ballot
question
was
developed
after
the
poll
was
conducted.
It's
important
to
know
that
that
last
may
phrase
important
from
a
legal
standpoint
to
make
it
clear
that,
while
there
is
a
three
consecutive
term
limit,
there's
no
limit
on
the
total
number
of
terms,
so
you
can
serve
three
consecutive
terms.
Have
it
sent
out
term
and
then
serve
another
three
consecutive
terms?
A
I
totally
understand
the
question,
and
so
we
can
work
with
legal
counsel,
as
well
as
our
ballot
consultant,
to
take
a
look
at
that
language
and
see.
Is
there
a
way
to
have
the
clear
legal
legal
authority
or
there
not
to
be
a
non-consecutive
term
limit
in
in
wording
that
is
not
potentially
confusing?
A
I
think
it's
also
worth
noting
that,
thankfully
we're
not
the
first
city
to
ever
put
in
term
limits
and
there's
a
lot
of
example,
of
lots
of
lots
of
examples
of
valid
language
out
there,
and
so
we'll
pull
up
other
examples
and
confirm
that
language
like
this
is
either
altered.
Or
if
this
is
a
common
language
that
is
used.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
medina,
yes,
interesting
conversation.
So
far
it
does
get
a
little
out
there,
but
my
question
is
regarding
the
mayor's
six-year
consecutive.
A
Limit,
I
didn't
catch
on
earlier
that
that
we
were
trying
to
limit
a
future
mayor
as
only
serving
three
consecutive
terms
of
two
years
each
I.
I
think
it
should
be
the
same
as
the
council
members
that
it's
12
years
so
if
that
could
be
modified.
If
my
colleagues
agree
with
it,
I
don't
see
why
there
would
be
that
distinction
between
the
mayor
and
and
a
council
member
of
allowing
them
to
serve
12
consecutive
years.
A
Thank
you
is
there
any
having
no
feedback
or,
but
maybe
we'll,
come
after
councilmember
hamilton
back
on
the
the
ballot
language
question?
I
believe-
and
this
is
just
a
suggestion
when
going
back
and
figuring
out,
if
there's
a
better
way
to
word
it.
I
believe
that
the
that
the
the
the
valid
language
allows
for
bold,
bold
or
italic
emphasis
on
certain
words
and
if
it
does
bolding
consecutive
and
bolding
total
might
be
enough
to
kind
of
make.
A
It
really
be
clear
that
we're
talking
about
you're
limited
to
three
consecutive,
four-year
terms
with
nolan
on
the
total
number
of
terms.
Sir.
This
is
a
suggestion,
but
I
know
you.
I
know
that
snap
is
going
to
go
back
to
to
look
at
better
choices,
but
I
just
wanted
to
suggest
that.
Thank
you,
I'll
save
the
rest
of
my
comments
for
when
we
get
to
the
discussion
page
thanks.
Any
other
questions
on
the
presentation.
A
A
Please,
council,
member
hamilton,
so
I
I
had
the
same
concern
that
that
councilmember
medina
said
as
well
that
the
you
know
with
if
the,
if
the
the
process
for
choosing
the
mayor
were
to
remain
the
same,
I
believe
that
the
the
the
the
equality
should
be
not
in
terms
but
in
in
total
number
of
years,
so
I
would
be
more
more
inclined
to
favor
having
it
be.
A
You
know
six
terms
totaling
12
years
and
to
be
in
line
with
the
on
three
terms,
totally
all
the
years
of
council
members
and
then
regarding
combining
with
the
potential
for
combining
the
two.
A
I
think
the
polling
data
was
pretty
clear
on
that
on
the
the
mayor
question
and
I
would
be-
and
it
was
also
pretty
clear
on
the
on
the
term
limit
question
as
well-
and
I
would
be
I
I
would
fear,
combining
the
the
measures
so
that
you
know
something
that
the
the
public
is
we're
getting
good
indications
that
they
want,
which
is
term
limits,
would
not
pass
because
of
including
it
with
something
that
they
that
they
orderly
do
not
want,
which
is
rotating
there.
A
Okay,
I,
like
things
that
are
separate
when
it
comes
down
to
giving
our
residents
opportunity
to
vote
some.
A
The
individual
issue
could
be
should
be
stand
on
its
own,
so
I'm
in
favor
of
of
them
being
separate
measures.
A
I
I
do
think
that
there
was
some
more
uncertainty
in
the
question
regarding
the
rotating
mayor
that
it
was
a
little
confusing
if
you
didn't
really
even
know
that
we
were
rotating
mayors
or
or
how
it
worked,
because
I
think
it
was
like
20
of
the
of
the
respondents
said
they
didn't
know.
So,
I'm
in
favor
of
keeping
them
separate
and
going
from
there.
A
A
You
know
before
seeing
the
polling
data.
The
answer
would
have
been
yes,
but
the
you
know
the
the
polling
data
is
really
is
really
impacting
my
my
decision
regarding
the
change
to
elected
mayor
sydney.
It
doesn't,
it
doesn't
look
like
it,
it
has
a
it
has
a
chance
and
I
don't
think
it's
good
for
for
anyone
to
put
something
on
the
ballot
that
is,
that
has
a
overwhelming
chance
of
failing
just
because
you
know
the
people
have
attended
its
tendency.
Well,
I
don't
like
that
then.
A
Maybe
I
don't
like
that
either
and
you
know
it
could
affect
the
things
that
we
want
to
get
done
on
the
ballot,
so
I
am
absolutely
in
favor
of
putting
term
limits
on
the
ballot,
I'm
not
in
favor
of
putting
elected
mayor
on
the
ballot
at
this
time
solely
because
of
the
polling
day.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
noticed
I
appreciate
it.
Other
comments
are
for
direction
from
other
comments
from
colleagues
for
direction
to
staff.
A
Councilmember,
salazar
and
I
have
a
question
I
just
thought
of,
but
in
general,
when
we
as
a
council,
agree
to
put
something
on
a
ballot,
there's
voter
information
that
is
sent
out
which,
in
my
opinion,
sometimes
is
biased
and
being
that
these
items
are
political
in
nature
and
not
necessarily
in
direct
benefit
of
city's
operations.
A
A
Certainly
I
I
would
agree
with
you
that
the
the
two
items
that
we're
discussing
do
not
have
a
direct
relationship
to
city
operations
and
certainly,
I
think,
has
significant
political
sentiment
around
around
them
and
we
would
certainly
be
sensitive
to
that.
I
think
in
general,
it's
important
for
the
city
to
provide
basic
public
education
around
city
city
measures,
and
I
totally
understand
the
comments
you're
making
and
as
we
develop
our
public
information
efforts.
A
And
just
a
just
an
observation
around
some
of
the
comments
that
were
made
around
the
the
mayor
versus
council
members.
A
You
know
if
a
council
member
were
to
serve
for
12
years
and
then
run
for
mayor
and
had
12
years
there
that's
24
years
of
service
as
part
of
the
elected
body,
so
that
that
I
think,
exceeds
anything
we've
seen
from
anybody
in
history
of
in
the
history
of
the
recent
history
of
san
bruno.
So
I
I
don't
know
at
that
point
that
even
has
any
effect
so
something
to
consider,
I'm
generally
not
in
favor
of
the
term
limits
anyway.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
any
other
feedback
or
direction
to
to
staff
a
vice
mayor,
jason.
B
So
it's
been
broadly
known
that
I
support
the
idea
of
the
rotating
mayor
and
the
term
limit
ballot
initiative.
The
I
became
a
we
when
a
minimum
of
three
council
members
agreed
that
these
were
measures.
We
wanted
to
look
further
into
this.
This
whole
idea
had
originally
been
brought
up
in
2020
and
didn't
receive
the
support
until
the
election
of
one
of
our
recent
council
members
in
latin
in
20.
B
I
want
to
say
in
the
last
election,
in
fact,
it
really
was
always
a
wii,
since
this
was
an
item
that
I
ran
a
campaign
on,
I
went
on
and
I'm
representing
what
I
ran
to
do
since
its
inception
has
been
part
of
representation
following
through
on
campaign
promises,
while
it
would
have
been
ideal
to
have
both
items
on
the
ballot.
The
reality
is
that
our
polls
don't
show
that
both
would
be
successful.
B
So
I'm
going
to
break
the
following
down
into
two
groups:
the
term
limits.
The
immediate
response
I
receive
when
I
talk
about
thermal
limits
is,
but
we
have
term
limits.
It
is
then
clarified
that
we
have
terms
but
no
limits
on
the
terms.
It's
rare
to
have
a
member
of
the
public
after
hearing
that
deny
that
there
should
be
limits
on
the
terms
and
the
number
of
terms
that
council
members
or
mayors
or
any
elected
officials
serve
on
per
the
survey.
B
In
my
conversations
with
so
many
they're,
so
surprised
that
the
mayor
is
not
a
full-time
position
does
not
have
additional
powers
than
anyone
else
on
the
council
and
cost
the
city
a
minimum
of
ten
thousand
dollars
every
two
years
by
having
a
separate
item
on
the
ballot,
not
to
mention
the
additional
staff
time,
it
takes
to
manage
a
separate
position
and
the
cost
of
their
time
to
manage
not
just
the
position.
But
if
there's
a
competitor,
the
resources
and
any
complaints
that
arrived
due
to
that
competition.
B
With
all
of
this
said,
my
ultimate
responsibility
is
to
the
voters
to
those
who
are
not
able
to
vote
while
disappointed
in
the
survey
results.
I
have
to
believe
that
this
item
is
not
likely
to
be
successful
at
its
time.
The
funds
that
would
be
expended
on
this
item
can
be
better
spent
on
other
needs
within
our
city
and
revisited
at
a
later
time.
I
just
hope
it
doesn't
take
another
50
years.
I
would
not
support
the
item
of
the
rotating
merit
to
be
on
ballot
at
this
time,
provided
the
survey
results.
B
I
would
support
the
term
limit
item
to
be
on
the
ballot
at
this
time
and
I
think
that's
it,
and
I
would
just
say
that
we
did
have
a
council
member
when
I
ran
that
had
been
on
for
24
years,
and
I
believe
our
our
mayor
is
going
on
many
years
right.
Mayor
medina,
I
want
to
say
22
years.
A
A
Is
to
correct
me,
but
I
think
the
question
was
asked
or
was
brought
up.
Trying
to
bring
marty
back
is
one
of
the
things
the
city
manager
asked
was
the
three
consecutives
right
and
then
there
was
three
consecutives
for
12.,
and
here
he
comes
back
and
then
for
the
mayor,
so
I
think
city
manager
would
want
to
get
direction
from
the
council.
As
do
you
want
it
three
four
year
terms
for
council
and
three
two
year
terms
for
mayor,
or
do
you
want
it
to
be
at
the
same
12
and
12?
A
If
that
makes
sense,
I
think
I
heard
from
council
member
hamilton-
and
I
heard
from
councilmember
medina,
but
I
wanted
to
see
if
there
was
other
thoughts
on
that
specific
question,
because
I
think
that
will
help
us
move
the
process
forward.
A
And
I
councilman.
A
Yes,
as
I
stated
earlier,
I
think
they
should
be
the
same
amount
and
if
and
if
somebody
is
that
willing
to
to
run
12
years
as
a
council
member
in
12
years
as
a
a
as
a
mayor,
then
so
be
it.
A
Okay,
so
12
and
12.
okay,
I
got
it
and
mr
hamilton
said
the
same
thing
yeah
thumbs
up.
Is
there
any
other
comments
from
colleagues
for
direction
to
staff
on
the
12
or
12,
or
not?
Wishing
that
or.
A
So
go
ahead
through
the
mirror.
So
just
let
me
recap
I
thank
you.
Thank
you.
There
are
a,
I
believe
in
the
majority
of
the
city
council.
I
am
based
on
people
that
have
stated
their
desire
to
move
forward
with
term
limits.
I
have
that
being
council
member
hamilton
council
member
medina
vice
mayor
may
send
so
three
two
four
on
term
limits.
A
I
don't
think
he
expressed
one
way
or
the
other,
and
that
is
a
for
12,
total
years
for
council
and
the
mayor's
position,
and
we
could
adjust
the
language
to
align
to
that,
and
so
we
will
take
that
direction
and
majority
directed
to
move
forward
with
term
limits
amending
the
language
so
that
the
total
number
of
years
is
aligned
between
the
mayor
and
the
council
office
as
well
as
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
last
portion
of
the
proposed
ballot
language
that
says
and
no
limit
on
the
number
of
terms
taken
at
that.
A
B
Yeah,
I
did
want
to
ask
if
the
to
the
city
attorney,
if
we
can
take
a
motion
on
these
items,
to
ask
for
a
vote.
A
Through
the
chair,
sorry,
by
direction,
so
I
think
direction
has
been
provided.
It
wasn't
agendized
for
action
and
that
the
attorney
of
course
knows
better
than
I.
A
B
I
think,
if
the
if
the
city
manager
is
comfortable
with
the
direction
given,
then
that's
closely
reflects
what's
on
the
agenda,
you
know
if,
if
there's
so,
so
I
think
that
that's
probably
the
best
way
to
go.
It
doesn't
clearly
say
that
this
is
an
action
item,
although
you
know,
arguably,
when
you
do
when
you
give
direction,
you
do
that
by
by
you
know
showing
a
a
vote
of
the
or
an
agreement
among
the
members.
A
And
I
want
to
make
clear:
this
item
is
coming
back
for
a
motion,
a
second
and
a
vote
which
then
is
clearly
defined.
If
that's
the
question,
so
it
has
to
come
back
for
a
vote
and
it
has
to
receive
three
affirmative
votes
right.
Everybody
will
be
on
record
as
far
as
where
they,
if
they
wanted
yes
or
no,
to
terminate.
B
Right,
but
we
have
two
items
before
us
seeking
direction
and
I
think
it
should
be
clear
what
the
vota
is,
and
I
think
that
the
last
time
this
came
up,
I
asked
for
more
detailed
minutes
and
one
of
the
comments
that
one
of
the
council
members
made
was
well.
Then
we
should
have
taken
a
mission,
and
so
I
think
we
should
take
a
motion.
A
B
A
I
think
almost
any
time
you
can
put
emotion
on
the
table.
Honestly,
I
think,
but
but
again
you
know.
That's
that's
why
we
have
somebody
else
here
in
the
in
the
in
the
zoo
meeting
with
us,
but
this
is
an
ask
for
direction.
It
has
to
come
back
for
a
yeah
or
nay
vote
period.
So
that's
what
I'm
not
in,
but
anyway,.
B
I
will
I
will
just
clearly
answer
that
that
I
think
that
if
vice
mayor,
madin
mason
wants
to
put
a
motion
on
the
table
to
provide
clear
direction
with
a
vote.
I
I
don't
see
a
concern
with.
A
B
A
B
Okay,
so
put
a
machine
on
the
table
to
move
forward
with
the
ballot
measure
for
term
limits
and
direct
that
look
into
the
items
that
we've
represented
tonight
and
come
back
to
us
with.
I
guess
it
would
be
a
final
ballot
measure
that
we
would
then
vote
on
to
place
on
the
ballot.
A
Okay,
mason
marty
medina
motion
seconded
roll
call,
please
council,
member
hamilton,
oh
hold
on.
A
On
the
question
council
member
salazar,
so
the
motion
includes
both
ballot
items
or
is
it
one
ballet.
A
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
then.
The
second
question
is
to
direct
staff
not
to
do
any
more
work
on
the
rotating
mayor
item
for
the
reasons
described
tonight
by
council
members.
A
There
is
emotions
or
a
second
all
second
motion,
seconded
mason,
hamilton
roll
call.
Please.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
I
think
that
concludes
and
city
manager,
unless
you
have
anything
to
say.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
mayor.
We
are
just
switching
over
power
points,
but
we
have
clear
direction
on
the
last
item
and
let
us
begin
a
slide
show.
A
Mayor
medina
members
of
the
city
council,
members
of
the
public,
our
last
study
session
item
of
the
night
is
regarding
the
feasibility
of
a
of
an
infrastructure
bond
for
the
november
2022
ballot,
and
so
we've
already
received
the
results
of
the
likely
motor
poll
that
was
conducted
and
the
conclusion
that
it
does
not
reach
the
two-thirds
requirement
and
may
not
be
viable.
A
But
we
did
want
to
have
a
study
session
seek
direction
from
the
city
council.
Public
works
director,
matt
lee
is
here
and
able
to
provide
any
additional
information
that
may
be
needed
as
well.
A
A
So
an
infrastructure
bond
is
a
type
of
financing
that
is
a
long-term
borrowing
that
state
local
governments
use
to
raise
money
primarily
for
long-lived
live
infrastructure
assets.
It's
all
important
to
note
that,
as
a
municipality,
we
cannot
just
go
out
and
take
on
debt
without
a
load
of
people,
and
so
that
is
required
by
state
law,
because
we
would
be
pledging
the
full
faith
and
credit
of
the
city's
general
fund
and
state
law
requires
explicit
voter
approval
for
that
type
of
financing
and
so
jess.
A
Why
an
infrastructure
bond
for
the
city
council?
This
was
a
follow-up
from
our
effort
in
2021
to
obtain
additional
funds
for
the
city's
warm
water
system.
That's
nearly
a
hundred
years
old
and
no
has
significant
financial
needs,
far
outstripping
the
amount
of
the
current
fee
and
the
city's
ability
to
fund
those.
There
was
a
study
done
in.
I
believe,
2017
that
noted
we
needed
to
spend
immediately.
30
million
dollars
on
on
the
infrastructure
in
the
asset
and
the
city
has
not
had
does
not
have
the
resources
for
that.
A
The
current
stormwater
fee
that
raises
approximately
forty
two
dollars
per
a
home
does
not
recover
enough
costs
for
operating
or
capital
costs
of
the
system,
because
this
effort
failed
in
21
and
the
fund
was
projected
to
go
negative
in
the
current
budget.
That
we
sit
in
the
city.
Stormwater
fund
was
to
be
a
million
dollars
short.
The
city,
thankfully,
in
the
current
year,
was
able
to
close
that
gap
by
the
use
of
federal
dollars
due
to
the
kovic
19
revenue
loss.
A
However,
as
the
city
council
knows
in
our
proposed
budget
for
next
fiscal
year,
there
is
a
more
than
a
million
dollar
shortfall
in
our
stormwater
fund,
and
we
do
talk
about
that.
A
lot
button
did
meet
in
october
26
of
last
year
to
talk
about
options
for
moving
forward,
and
the
city
was
directed
to
look
at
a
potential
infrastructure
bond,
and
so
just
a
quick
result
from
the
prop
218
important
to
note.
A
That
was
a
bail
ballot
per
state
law
that
had
to
be
mailed
to
every
property,
and
it
was
a
property
interval
important
to
distinguish
that
from
the
effort
that
we're
talking
about,
which
is
an
infrastructure
bond.
That
is
an
item
that
goes
on
the
ballot
and
every
registered
voter
has
the
opportunity
to
vote
on
that.
A
But
last
year's
effort
was
a
was
a
effort
to
increase
the
current
property
assessment,
the
parcel
fee,
the
election
was
conducted
on
june
15th
and
the
results
are
shown
with
1833
yesterday,
almost
double
of
that.
The
310,
no
votes,
a
number
of
83
rejectables
and
so
the
the
item,
which
required
a
simple
majority.
Property
owners
did
not
pass,
and
so,
as
I
stated
when
we
met
last
october,
you
directed
to
look
at
it
infrastructure
bond.
A
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
city's
infrastructure
needs.
You
know
this
conversation
is
specific
to
a
potential
november
20
2022
item,
and
we
can
we
can.
We
can
speak
for
hours
and,
in
fact,
when
we
talk
about
our
capital
improvement
budget
and
have
other
presentations,
we
in
fact
do
speak
for
hours
on
the
city's
infrastructure
needs,
but
just
as
a
high
level,
I
just
want
to
remind
the
public
that
the
city
did
analyze.
A
Its
infrastructure
needs
over
the
next
20
years,
when
it
made
a
really
proactive
decision
to
implement
development
impact
fees,
so
that
new
development
pays
its
fair
share,
and
so
for
this
presentation
we
wanted
to
pull
a
page
out
of
that
report
from
from
february
of
2019
just
to
highlight
it
at
a
very
global
level.
A
The
city's
infrastructure
challenge,
and
so
the
study
conducted
by
what
will
dan
analyze
all
of
our
infrastructure
needs
and,
on
the
left-hand
column,
there's
a
number
of
categories:
our
community
service
facilities,
our
public
safety
facilities,
general
facilities,
general
government
facilities,
utilities
and
transportation,
and
the
total
need
that
we
have
and
that
we
know
we
need
to
spend
over
the
next
20
years,
is
457
million
dollars
and
with
the
development
fee
program
that
the
city
implemented,
it
ensures
that
development
pays
its
fair
share
of
the
cost
and
the
projected
amount
that
development
will
pay
is
for
147
million,
and
that
leaves
the
remaining
need
that
we
need
to
fund
as
a
city
of
310
million
dollars.
A
And
so
as
we
talk
about
an
infrastructure
bond
and
all
of
the
facilities
and
utilities
and
government
facilities.
We
know
because
we
have
had
these
conversations
in
very
long
intricate
detail,
that
we
have
a
significant
infrastructure
challenge,
been
a
significant
financial
challenge
and
so
what
we
said
about
our
fiscal
sustainability
project.
A
When
we
talk
about
a
potential
commercial
property
transfer
tax,
when
we
talk
about
measure
g
that
was
successfully
adopted,
it
was
really
going
toward
this
very
large
number
and
we,
we
know
the
challenges
that
the
city
have
in
just
closing
its
operating
budget
each
year,
and
so
our
ability
without
additional
sources
to
cover
310
million
dollars,
is
a
very
large
fee
and
so
part
of
the
reason
why
we
set
about
this
conversation
and
the
likely
voter
poll
for
a
potential
ballot
measure
in
november
2022
and
as
you
received
earlier
tonight,
the
city
hired
godly
research
and
hired
a
ballot
consultant
to
prepare
a
survey
work
with
your
council
subcommittee
and
evaluate
the
feasibility
and
the
likelihood
that
voters
on
in
san
bruno
may
be
willing
to
support
an
infrastructure
bond.
A
That
would
come
with
additional
charges
on
the
property
tax
bill
to
pay
for
that
bond,
and
we
had
the
results.
The
safety
and
so
residents
were
asked
about
upgrading
a
fire
stations
ensuring
that
operation
that
those
facilities
are
operational
during
earthquakes
and
natural
disasters.
As
the
city
council
knows,
we
have
two
of
the
oldest
unretrofitted
fire
stations
in
the
county
and
have
an
active
project
to
begin
the
design
on
replacing
fire
station
52.
A
A
Improved
neighborhood
parks,
ball
fields,
playgrounds
so
that
they
are
safe,
clean
and
surfaces
that
that
all
could
be
problems
and
repair
our
deteriorating
storm
drains
for
flooding
and
water
pollution.
So,
as
you
heard
earlier
today,
the
survey
was
conducted.
A
The
bond
tested
really
came
back
with
the
conclusion
that
it's
not
viable
at
this
time,
based
on
the
full
results
and
it
would
not
engender
the
two-thirds
support
that
is
required
for
an
infrastructure
bond
on
the
november
22
election.
A
It
also
revealed
that
our
residents
are
price
sensitive
with
regard
to
future
bond
measuring
the
consultant
talked
about
earlier
today
about
just
larger
things
that
are
affecting
the
economy,
gas
prices
and
voters.
Perception
of
will
the
economy
get
better
in
the
short
term
and
a
strong
majority
of
voters.
However,
do
prioritize
capital
improvements,
and
we
we
hear
that
anecdotally.
A
It's
how
we
pay
for
it
that
that
we
all
know
the
challenge,
and
while
it
does
appear
that
the
bond
measure,
if
placed
on
the
ballot
would
not
engender
enough
support,
the
survey
did
reveal
that
sanborn
residents
would
prioritize
funding
for
streets,
roads,
fire
stations,
storm
drains
parks
and
libraries
in
that
particular
order.
So
it
provided
us
with
some
some
really
good
input,
and
so
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
next
steps
right
we've
been
here
before
with
revenue
measures
that
appear
not
to
be
successful
and
we
want
to
discuss
next.
A
Steps
certainly
is
an
option
of
the
city
council
to
proceed
and
charge
ahead
with
a
potential
november
22
ballot
measure
for
infrastructure.
But
what
the
polling
says
is
that
that's
not
likely.
The
consultant
did
mention,
particularly
looking
toward
november
24,
where
the
the
electorate
will
be
a
little
bit
different.
A
The
demographics
of
the
electorate
will
be
a
little
bit
different,
but
what
november
24
also
allows
that
allows
us
to
do
as
an
agent
here
us
elected
officials
representing
the
community
and
city
staff
and
really
continue
our
education
efforts
to
develop
a
a
more
articulated
message
in
advance
of
doing
the
polling
to
really
educate
our
community
on
the
city's
infrastructure
needs,
and
you
should
just
know
internally.
A
A
I
think
we've
had
some
really
good
conversations
on
tours
and
conversations
both
small
and
large
that
we
can
begin
to
have
with
the
san
bruno
community
about
our
infrastructure
challenges,
because
we
all
know-
and
I
know
you
know-
because
we
talk
about
it-
so
much
that
they're
great
and
right
now
they
are
insurmountable,
with
the
resources
that
we
have
available
to
us.
A
And
so
that
concludes
the
presentation
and
would
like
to
just
open
it
to
the
city
council
for
discussion
and
direction.
With
the
information
that
you've
invited
tonight,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
okay.
Colleagues,
questions
on
the
presentation,
questions
on
the
presentation
only.
A
Thank
you
we'll
bring
it
back.
Sorry
bring
it
back
to
council
for
comments
and
directions.
A
No
direction,
I
will
say
the
quiet
would
tell
me
for
staff
not
to
proceed.
I
guess,
but
just
want
to
double
check.
Councilman
medina.
A
So
so
clearly,
we
are
in
a
difficult
spot
and
thank
you,
city
manager,
for
the
reminder
of
of
how
difficult
it
is
to
maintain
our
infrastructure
and
with
the
revenues
that
we
have.
No,
we
don't.
We
can't
do
it
and
the
polls
pretty
much
put
an
exclamation
point
on
that
so
going
forward,
it's
gonna
be
difficult.
I'd
like
to
add
a
little
bit
of
of
my
viewpoint
on
it.
A
You
know
kobe
kobe
not
only
was
a
devastating
thing
to
happen
across
the
world
and
it
also
kept
us
from
from
doing
more
with
measure
g,
and
I
think
that
this
council,
the
city,
is,
has
been
working
very
hard
on
on
getting
the
revenues
to
do
more,
do
all
the
things
that
our
residents
want
and
we
weren't
able
to
do
that
with
with
measure
g
funds,
because
we
had
to
reallocate
them
to
other
areas
that
for
the
basic
services
that
we
needed
with
fire
and
police
and
everything
else.
A
So
I
I
think
that,
as
we
move
forward
in
2024,
we
and
it's
my
understanding
that
barrier
is,
and
maybe
the
city
manager
can
speak
briefly
on
it.
Is
this
we're
looking
at
one
of
the
largest
paving
projects
in
recent
history
that
is
planned?
I
believe
I
believe
the
the
oversight
committee
has
heard
about
it
and
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
approving
this,
approximately
six
million
dollars
of
paying
projects
in
the
city.
A
So
it's
a
reality
that
we're
living
in
it's.
Why
this
council,
in
the
past
has
trying
to
find
ways
to
raise
revenues
and
why
it's
so
important
that
this
charter
city
be
approved
so
that
we
we
have
additional
funds.
So
that
said,
I'd
love
to
hear
what
my
colleagues
think,
because
this
is
a
huge
thing.
A
You
know
we
know
we
need
these
funds,
we're
limited
in
how
we
can
raise
them.
So
what
are
we
gonna
do
so
this
is
going
to
be.
I
can't
hear
you.
Oh,
I
turn
my
head.
I'm
sorry!
This
is
again
direction
on
the
infrastructure
bond
on
the
november
2022
ballot.
That's
the
city
manager!
If
we
could
try
to
stick
to
that
element
of
it
and
stay
within
the
ball
field,
shall
we
say
I'll
use,
california,
medina's
analogy
or
even
the
ball
field,
sure
just
in
general,
about
a
tax
measure.
A
Then
I
only
step
back
to
the
polio,
because
council
member
medina
a
brought
up
measure
g
and
had
asked
for
her
clarification
absolutely
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
in
order
to
not
have
additional
layoffs,
breaking
police
officers
and
firefighters
and
in
key
positions,
the
city
did
allocate
two
million
dollars
of
measurement
funds
to
not
have
additional
staffing
positions,
be
unsealed
and
to
prevent
layoffs.
Let
me
be
clear
about
that.
However,
what
the
council
member
said
is
absolutely
true.
A
In
your
proposed
budget,
there
is
approximately
5.6
million
dollars
that
would
that
is
proposed
to
be
allocated.
Two
roadways,
menderjee
was
initially
objected
to
bringing
up
four
million
dollars
a
year.
We
have
not
hit
that
because
it
was
adopted
and
encoded,
and
so
in
the
years
we
received
sometimes
between
two
and
a
half
and
three
million
we're
entering
back
up
to
four
million.
A
But
absolutely
it
is
the
city's
commitment
to
utilize
those
those
general
purpose,
funds
for
roadway
maintenance
and
key
protocol
items
in
the
city,
and
certainly
with
the
5.6
million
dollars
that
is
proposed
to
be
allocated
we'll
be
able
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
hamilton,
so
I
mean
I'm
I'm
absolutely
in
favor
of
the
city
passing
an
infrastructure
bond
that
you
know
the
with,
with
all
of
the
needs
that
we
have
and
with
you
know,
looking
at
even
at
the
highest
level,
we're
left
we're
talking
11
a
month
per
household
to
to
submit.
A
I
think
that's
a
good,
I
think
that's
a
good
use.
You
know
speaking
as
a
as
a
resident,
I
think
that's
a
good
use
of
my
of
my
household
budget.
Just
like
I
thought
that
that
the
stormwater
was
a
good
use
of
my
household
budget.
Then
I
voted
yes
on
that.
A
You
know,
and
I've
also
because
of
my
engagement
with
the
city
before
I
was
on
council
and
now
being
on
council.
I
I
I
know
how
how
deeply
we
are
in
need
of
of
revenue
to
fund
all
the
all
of
our
all
of
our
needs.
Clearly,
the
the
the
public
is
not.
It
does
not
share
that
that
same
view
in
in
in
enough
numbers
to
make
this
feasible.
A
So
you
know
once
again,
as
I
did
earlier
this
evening.
I
could
reluctantly
support
abandoning
this
for
now
and
not
proceeding
from
putting
this
on
the
ballot
simply
basically
on
the
pulling
data,
because
there's
there's
no
point
in
putting
something
on
ballot
if
it's,
if
it's
destined
to
fail
and
potentially
having
that
on,
the
ballot
could
potentially
negatively
affect
other
things
on
the
ballot
that
that
may
not
fail
once
again.
A
This
of
this
also
underscores
the
need-
and
you
know
the
polling
for
this
and
the
poll
for
for
charter
city
kind
of
underscore
underscore
that
you
know
at
this
time
folks
understand
that
we
need
money
they're,
just
not
not
in
the
position
to
to
pay
for
it
itself
and
that's,
and
I
believe,
that's
why,
in
my
opinion,
I
believe
that's
why
the
charter
scheme
pulled
much
higher
than
this.
A
Thank
you
any
other
hands.
One
last
go
around
for
hands:
council
member
salazar.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so
in
thinking
about
this
and
and
where
it
might
fit
into
a
future
election.
Are
we
aware
currently
of
any
other
bond
measures
that
may
appear
on
the
22
ballot
and
looking
forward?
A
Thank
you
councilmember
salad,
but
we
do
know
that
the
county
is
looking
into
a
revenue
measure
to
support
the
new
sea
level
rise
and
resiliency
agency,
as
well
as
potentially
fire
mitigation,
but
that
will
not
be
an
infrastructure
bond.
That's
that's
another
financing
mechanism,
particularly
parcel
tax.
A
A
what
happens
in
november
24
and
if
other
agencies
are
doing
it,
it's
too
far
for
us
speculating,
okay
and
and
really
the
the
risk
to
us
of
putting
this
on
the
ballot
is
the
cost,
and
then
it
fails,
and
it
goes
nowhere,
but
is
there
do
we
anticipate
that
there
would
be
a
political
fallout
that
would
then
play
into
the
success
in
four
years
in
the
into
the
future,
or
is
it
worth
trying
and
then,
in
the
meantime,
engaging
in
a
public
education
thing,
perhaps
focusing
the
message
on
where
the
the
most
critical
needs
are.
A
I
think
measure
g
was
was
partly
successful
one
because
we
put
a
heavy
emphasis
on
roads,
which
happens
to
be
the
the
favorite
topic
of
most
of
the
people
surveyed,
and
second,
we
included
the
oversight
committee
which,
according
to
the
poll,
also
our
constituents,
don't
necessarily
trust
us
in
how
to
spend
the
money
so
having
the
oversight
committee
may
have
helped.
You
know
address
some
of
those
concerns.
A
So
if
there
was
anything,
we
could
do
to
perhaps
focus
our
scope
and
make
commitments
that
you
know
the
funds
would
be
used
to
address.
Those
issues
first
and
foremost
might
help
improve
those
numbers.
I
mean
we're
we're
close
we're
close
to
that
that
66
percent,
and
maybe
a
real
strong
push,
could
could
get
us
there
and
we
could
start
addressing
these
issues
sooner.
I
mean
I'm
really
concerned
about
storm
drains.
A
We've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
decade,
and
you
know
waiting
another
four
years
is
is
not
probably
not
the
best
tactic
we
can.
We
can,
and
there
really
is
no
other,
no
other
source,
even
if
the
property
transfer
tax
goes
through,
that's
not
even
going
to
put
a
dent
in
it,
so
we
need
we
need
to
really
address
it,
and
this
might
be
the
only
way
to
do
it.
So
maybe
it's
a
hail
mary,
but
maybe
it's
worth
a
try.
A
So
through
the
mayor,
the
manager,
then
council
member
medina,
then
counts
the
other
medina
sure.
So
in
response
to
councilmember
salvar's
question.
A
I
would
love
nothing
more
to
be
standing
here
to
say,
there's
a
viable
opportunity
to
afford
with
an
infrastructure
bond.
The
need
is
that
great,
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
pursuing
in
this
city
every
last
opportunity
we
have
for
additional
revenue
for
the
organization
in
the
infrastructure,
because
our
infrastructure
and
operational
needs
are
extremely
significant.
We
we
just
saw
the
start
nearly
a
week
ago
when
we
could
build
tomorrow,
where
we
have
some.
A
We
have
these
second
lowest
per
capita
income
for
the
city
of
san
bruno,
amongst
our
peer
groups
in
the
county.
Our
ballot
consultants
are
not
here,
but
we
asked
that
question.
A
Can
we
turn
our
head
and
the
analysis
is
from
the
professionals
that
do
this
up
and
down
the
state
with
significant
experience
from
san
mateo
county
is
based
on
the
polling,
you're,
actually
not
close
yeah,
and
you
can't
make
them
enough
ground
and
with
the
margin
of
error
in
the
poll,
there's
just
not
enough
ground
to
make
up
and
they're
lawful,
also
significant
downsides
to
putting
out
revenue
measure
after
revenue
measures
that
don't
pass
because
then
you
sort
of
get
the
reputation
of.
A
And
additional
funding
sources
and
that
sort
of
has
a
snowball
effect,
and
so
the
professional
recommendation
from
our
consultant,
as
well
as
major
city
managers,
to
unfortunately
take
a
step
back
from
the
infrastructure
bond
conversation
for
november
22..
Look
at
all
other
possible
sources
for
revenue
that
can
be
used
for
for
for
infrastructure.
A
But
specifically
for
an
infrastructure
bond,
don't
stop
the
effort
but
and
really
proceed
toward
looking,
not
four
years
out
to
26
or
two
years
out
to
24.
and,
for
example,
there's
the
city
specific
library
which
is
just
behind
me.
Council
knows
this,
but
the
public
may
not.
A
There
was
a
study
done
in
the
there's
a
there
was
a
study
done
or
a
group
of
residents
that
got
together
and
the
library
was
essentially
determined
to
be
functionally
obsolete
in
the
late
80s
and
one
of
the
things
we
know
from
the
from
the
polling
and
looking
at
the
demographics
of
our
library
pulled
in
the
50s,
the
the
mid
to
low
50s
support
in
the
community,
and
I
I
do
think
that
that
is
because
the
sam
bruno
likely
voter
public
that
was
surveyed
may
look
at
the
library
as
not
a
place
for
them.
A
What
a
modern
library
is,
how
a
modern
library
provides
services
and
respite
and
places
for
seniors,
and
it's
not
just
books
and
shows
where
you
go
to
read,
and
I
think
we
have
some
ground
to
cover
in
educating
and
communicating
to
our
community
on
what
our
infrastructure
needs
are,
because
there
are
those
sort
of
hard
infrastructure
of
street
lights
that
are
storm.
Water
utilities,
fire
stations.
A
But
then
there
are
also
service
facilities
and
I
think
a
communication
with
our
residents
about
what
what
modern
facilities
provide
and
that
there
is
a
place
for
them
in
a
facility
like
the
library
will
be
helpful
too.
I
think
we
have
some
time
to
do
that.
If
we
look
toward
november
24th.
A
Thank
you,
city
manager.
You
covered
a
lot
of
the
things
that,
in
response
to
how
difficult
it
is
right
now,
the
other,
the
other
big
difference
is,
you
know,
measure
g
passed
because
it
only
needs
15,
plus
one
right
and
it's
a
simple
majority
bonds
need
a
lot
higher
number
on
that
and
in
the
meeting
with
our
consultant,
I
I
asked
like:
are
we?
How
far
off
are
we
to
to
go?
Yes
and-
and
I
believe
the
answer
was
you
needed
to
be?
A
A
So
you
know
what
was
what
was
interesting
there
about.
You
know
if
it
was
less
costly
that
it
that
it
got
much
more
support,
but
I
think
I
think
we
I
think
we
should
we.
We
did.
It
hail
mary
last
last
election
and
now
we're,
I
don't
know
we're
going
to
try
a
fleet
flicker
on
this
one.
You
know
like
it's
just
it's
just
such
a
overwhelming
thing
to
go
through
and
I
mean
and
then
the
climate
that
we're
dealing
with
right.
Now
I
mean
the
gas
prices
everything's
going
up.
A
You
know
I
I
I
went
to
go
visit
my
dad
today
in
salinas
and
and
we
went
to
denny's
right
because
that's
where
he
goes
right,
so
I
can't
bring
him
to
san
bruno
every
time
I
want
to.
But
you
know,
grandma
grand
salam
breakfast
was
12.99
and
I
was
like
whoa.
You
know
big
joe's,
just
like
a
dollar
more
and
way
better
right,
but
it's
just
the
reality
of
everything
being
so
expensive
and
and
with
the
way
things
are
going,
you
know
it
just
wasn't
our
time,
maybe
I'll
use.
A
What
was
the
last
at
the
last
meeting,
the
star,
or
maybe
that
was
another
meeting,
but
it's
just
not
our
time.
You
know
we.
We
we
got
to
do
the
best
that
we
can,
what
we
have
and
and
we're
seeing
that
it
it
is
still
going
to
be
difficult
and-
and
we
keep
fingers
crossed,
that
a
storm
covert
doesn't
blow
out
somewhere.
A
A
So
there's
no
magic
ball,
there's
no
silver
bullet
every
every
resource
that
we're
looking
for
has
been
on
the
table
and
and
hopefully
we'll
keep
on
going
and
doing
the
best.
We
can
any
other
comments
from
colleagues
last
chance,
city
manager,
mayor
mason,.
B
Yeah,
so
let
me
told
what
I
have
so.
I
think
that
we
also
still
have.
I
think
the
council
still
has
a
lot
of
leg
work
to
do
around
identifying
the
parameters,
so
some
of
you
might
recall
that
a
number
of
residents
pleaded
for
a
sunset
in
the
last
item.
B
We
also
are
still
trying
to
get
all
the
funds
we
can
without
going
into
resident
pockets.
We
don't
have
closure
yet
on
the
short-term,
rentals
and
cannabis
issues,
we
haven't
really
discussed
oversight
committees
in
depth
and
I
think,
in
addition
to
that,
we
really
have
an
opportunity
to
show
to
the
public
that
all
of
us,
I
think,
are
handling
the
current
projects
responsibly
with
their
money
right.
B
So
the
rack,
although
that's
pg
e
money,
I
do
consider
that
money,
that
is,
for
the
benefit
of
the
entire
san
bernardino
population,
due
to
the
how
those
funds
were
acquired-
and
you
know
it's
really
imperative
that
we
move
forward
with
transparency
and
we
remain
invited
on
that
particular
project
along
with
measure
x.
That
was
supported
by
all
of
the
voters
on
the
allen
property.
That's
looking
great
and
scheduled
to
open.
We
have
measure
g
that
council
member
dina
mentioned
and
due
to
covid,
we
haven't
seen
a
lot,
I'm
done
with
those
funds.
B
We
also
haven't
gotten
as
much
as
expected
due
to
coven,
but
we
yeah.
If
I
was
just
a
a
resident,
that's
not
watching
our
three-hour
meeting
once
a
week.
I
I
would
just
be
looking
at
my
streets
wondering
what's
going
on
right,
and
so
I
think,
there's
an
opportunity
there
to
see
how
these
funds
are
being
spent
over
over
time.
B
B
The
vision
for
our
library
is
great.
We
need
to
really
envision
something
greater
for
our
library,
including
what
our
library
could
be
and
how
it
could
serve
everyone.
I
recall
a
meeting
where
a
previous
council
member
said
during
one
of
our
meetings,
that
they
don't
even
go
to
our
library.
They
just
go
to
the
neighboring
city
library
and
that's
where
they
would
develop
their
kids.
B
There's
simply
no
reason
for
that.
We
need
to
really
consider
when
the
best
opportunity
is
for
these
measures
identify
what
has
not
worked
previously
and
address
them
so
that
the
public
supports
these
items
because
they
do
see
the
vision
and
they
see
themselves
as
part
of
the
vision
and
not
just
because
we
phrased
a
ballot
item
with
the
right
reddit
to
get
their
vote.
B
Lastly,
we're
still
recovering
from
covid.
In
fact,
the
numbers
are
again
peaking.
The
concentration
is
still
focused
on
recovery
and
for
some
survivability,
with
the
cost
of
housing,
gas
and
groceries,
and
so
much
more
going
up.
We
really
should
also
be
striving
for
grants.
I
don't
think
that
the
opportunity
for
grant
should
should
end
with
the
site
if
this
item
doesn't
move
forward,
which
is
another
item
that
you
know,
we
should
have
an
update
at
some
point,
which
is
our
grant
writer,
but
you
know
more
funds
should
be
applied
for
us
as
possible.
B
So
that's
that's
my
reason
and,
and
whenever
we're
done
with
this,
I
will
also
be
placing
a
motion
on
this
item.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
anyone
else
last
call:
okay,
I'm
gonna
have
some
comments
and
then
we'll
go
to
vice
mayor
mason.
So
I
I
I
understand
about
the
super
majority
and
it
is
very
challenging
difficult.
I
sometimes
think
that
we
do
have
too
much
within
a
measure
and
I
think
that's
like
measure
f.
There
was
just
too
many
things
and
the
general
the
the
public
starts
to
say.
Well,
really,
what
are
they
going
to
do
with
the
money?
A
They've
listed
a
dozen
things,
several
things,
but
really
where
is
it
going
in
it's
what
they
just
want
to
get
the
money?
I
you
know.
I
think
that
what
concerns
me
is
obviously
it's.
A
It
doesn't
look
like
it
would
be
successful,
but
it
doesn't
take
away
the
problem
that
we
have
and
what
exists
right
now
and
then
to
say:
well,
let's
hope
that
nothing
really
goes
away
or
I
in
two
years
until
we
come
back
around
is
you
know,
I've
always
said,
or
I
learned
from
somebody
hope
is
not
a
plan
when
it
comes
to
these
type
of
things
there
will
be.
A
Councilman
is
right,
something
will
occur,
top
of
san
bernardino,
avenue
wasn't
expected,
but
it
happened
and
so
we're
going
to
have
this,
and
so
it
needs
to
be
addressed,
and
I
think
it
cannot
just
be
let
go
in
its
entirety.
We
cannot
just
wait
two
years.
We
we
have
to
do
something
and
have
a
plan
strategic
plan
starting
now
moving
forward
and
having
some
objectives,
timelines
and
goals
and
and
to
the
library.
A
What
I,
what
I
want
to
give
an
example
is,
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
because
I've
been
aged
tonight,
you
know
I'm
the
most.
I
know
by
age,
I'm
the
only
on
the
city
council,
but
please
don't
hold
that
against
me.
Sometimes
age
comes
wisdom,
but
not
by
much,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know
back
one
of
the
things
is
they
had
bought
out
for
a
library
they
had
wanted.
An
ad
hoc
committee.
There
was
like
30
people
that
applied
and
what
the
council
did
back.
A
Everybody
doesn't
matter
who
applied,
so
we
were
in
the
basement
with
just
a
cross-section
of
the
community
and
it
was
impressive,
and
if
I
could
go
back
in
time
and
had
there
been
recordings,
I
think
you
all
would
have
been
amazed
and
interested
in
some
of
the
discussions
and
dialogues
and
it
came
up
with
plans
and
as
far
as
how
much
of
the
cost
of
a
library-
and
then
you
know
eventually
before
that,
the
reason
that
was
established
was
because
the
bond
they
wanted
for
a
new
library
had
failed.
So
they
were
trying
to
understand.
A
But
my
point
of
that
story
is:
is
that
it
really
brought
everybody
together
in
this
community
to
really
have
a
vision
and
to
really
build
a
foundation.
Now,
unfortunately,
again
that
hasn't
come
to
fruition
as
far
as
a
modernized
or
new
library,
but
it
was
a
great
start
and
an
example
of
what
I
think
is
a
good
foundation
to
build.
So
with
that,
I
think,
we've
all
said
the
same
thing.
It
doesn't
look
viable.
A
I
believe
this
is
what
I've
heard
from
everybody.
It
doesn't
look
viable
at
this
time,
but
I
think
each
one
of
us
realized
it's
a
major
concern
that
we
all
share
and
somehow
whatever
it
is.
We
all
know
this.
We
can
spend
millions
of
dollars
underneath
on
cemetery
avenue
for
its
infrastructure
and
what
you'll
hear
from
people
is.
The
street
looks
great
but
they're
not
realizing
the
magnitude
of
what
the
investment
was
and
what
just
happened
under
underneath
that
street.
A
But
again
it's
the
visual
element
in
trying
to
educate
and
have
people
understand
the
intricacy
of
it,
and
it's
not
easy,
especially
in
these
hard
times.
Chelsea
medina
I've
not
been
to
dennis
a
long
time,
but
I
didn't
realize
they'd
gone
up
that
much
but
anyway,
that's
that's
my
two
cents,
and
anyway
vice
mayor,
go
ahead.
A
Second,
motion
made
and
seconded
mason
marty
medina
roll
complete,
mr
mayor.
Yes,
I
apologize
yeah.
I
just
want
to
clarify
vice
mayor
mason
said
2020.
A
A
We
certainly
still
recognize
that
the
city
has
a
significant
infrastructure
challenge
and
we'll
continue
to
move
forward
with
analyzing
ways
for
additional
revenue.
We
will
continue
to
support
you
as
a
council,
with
the
additional
information
that
you
have
asked
for
the
charter
city
and
commercial
property
transfer
tax
and
and
bring
back
that
information,
and
I
just
want
to
go
about
that.
I
often
times
hear
people
look
at
a
city
next
door
and
say,
but
but
they
built
that
thing
for
a
million
dollars.
A
Why
is
it
costing
us
1.3
million
and
the
answer
is
well,
they
built
it
10
years
ago
and
inflation
happens
every
year,
and
so
we
certainly
have
to
continue
this
effort.
And
while
it's
not
viable
right
now,
it
is
a
urgent
thing
because
needs
are
only
getting
greater
and
the
cost
is
only
getting
higher
and
we
will
continue
to
support
you
as
a
council
to
look
at
all
options
in
all
viable
tax
measures
and
other
sources.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
With
that
we
will.
I
we
want
to
welcome
trish
ortiz,
thank
you
for
being
here
and
we
made
sure
we
got
done
before
8
30,
just
because
you
were
here
and
we
didn't
want
you
to
get
nervous
about
the
length
of
meetings
with
that.
Thank
you
to
steph.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
city
manager
and
everyone
else.
Thank
you,
council.
Colleagues,
all
I'm
going
to
say
is
we're
going
to
adjourn
this
meeting
to
the
next
regular
city
council
meeting
of
june
14th.