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A
B
C
D
E
Just
so
quiet
were
we
trying
to
use
the
hybrid
system
a
little
bit?
Is
that
possibly,
why
there's
a
delay,
because
we
were
getting
close
to
switching
over
to
a
different
system?
Well,.
C
I
just
got
a
late
text
and
I'm
getting
more
tech.
So
at
this
point-
and
I
do
apologize
to
everybody
in
the
public
because
I
know
we
have
many
persons
here-
I'm
being
asked
if
we
can
wait
a
few
more
minutes.
So
what
I
would
suggest
to
my
colleagues
is
if
we
can
turn
your
cameras
off.
If
you
like,
please,
let's
check
back
in,
I
have
705
at
7
10
and
I
will
try
to
also
find
out
from
sophomore.
C
Thank
you
and
I
very
much
apologize
to
the
members
of
the
public
zombie
known
span.
Technology
is
great.
Advancements
are
great,
but
sometimes
they
take
a
few
things
to
work
out
to
make
sure
we're
following.
C
All
the
procedures
and
recording
properly.
D
B
B
C
If
you
can
hear
us
turn
your
camera
on
and
wave
with
us.
C
C
C
C
Staff
are
we
able
to
begin
in
being
recorded.
B
D
Waiting
on
the
city
clerk
to
solve
the
echo
problem,
unfortunately,
we
were
set
up
to
test
our
hybrid
meeting
set
up
at
the
senior
center.
There
was
a
technical
issue
with
the
sound,
and
so
the
entire
team
has
relocated
to
city
hall
and
we
are
ready
to
begin
as
soon
as
the
city
clerk
solves
the
echo
issues
against
our
apologies.
D
All
right,
mr
mayor,
we're
ready
to
begin.
We
will
take
over
the
city,
clerk's
function
from
this
room
and
so
we're
ready
for
a
call
to
order
first
time.
Thank.
C
I
H
H
B
C
C
C
Thank
you.
Everyone.
Next,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
four
public
comments
for
items
not
on
the
agenda.
Individuals
will
be
allowed
up
to
three
minutes.
It
is
council's
policy
to
refer
matters
raised
in
this
forum
to
staff,
for
investigation
and
on
our
action
where
appropriate.
The
brown
act
prohibits
the
council
from
discussing
and
or
acting
upon
any
matter,
not
agendized
pursuant
to
state
law.
Again.
C
And
I
see
we
have
a
few
speakers
up
and
again,
this
is
for
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
We
do
have
the
consent
and
just
to
let
you
know,
the
study
sessions
are
a
franchise
agreement
with
apology
and
conceptual
plan
and
potential
funding
source
for
the
centennial,
plaza
renovation
project
located
on
san
mateo
avenue.
Now,
if
we
can
bring
in
our
folks,
please.
C
Next,
going
to
be
bringing
in
alicia
be
alicia.
G
G
The
issue
of
marijuana
dispensaries
should
be
put
on
ballot
for
all
the
residents
of
san
bruno
to
give
their
feedback
on
such
a
critical
issue.
The
marijuana
dispensaries
are
a
target
for
criminals.
Looking
for
financial
opportunities,
one
only
has
to
watch
the
news
to
hear
about
burglaries
of
marijuana
dispensaries
and
the
danger
that
goes
along
with
them.
There
is
a
reason
why
they
have
armed
security
guards
at
the
marijuana
dispensaries.
G
G
G
As
far
as
the
creation
of
jobs
that
was
mentioned
in
the
last
meeting
that
I
listened
to,
there
are
plenty
of
jobs
that
are
out
there
for
people
that
are
looking
for
work.
We
don't
need
extra
jobs
being
created
or
being
really
mentioned,
with
marijuana
dispensaries
being
located
in
san
bruno
there's
plenty
of
jobs
out
there.
G
The
other
thing
was
a
location.
It
seems
that
the
focus
is
on
the
west
side
of
el
camino,
whereas
the
west
side
of
el
camino
doesn't
seem
to
seriously
be
taking
into
consideration.
If,
in
fact,
marijuana
dispensaries
are
brought
into
the
city
of
san
bruno.
Once
again,
we
need
to
be
able
to
vote
on
this.
B
Mayor
procedurally
on
this
agenda,
do
you
have
to
request
something
to
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
to
speak
on
it.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question.
What
we
will
be
doing
is
we
will
be
going
to
consent
after
the
announcements
give
an
opportunity
for
the
public,
certainly
to
comment
on
any
of
those
items.
G
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
medina
and
fellow
council
members.
My
name
is
anna
villalobos
and
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
san
bruno.
I
have
strong
concerns
regarding
the
rezoning
of
some
of
our
commercial
districts
to
allow
the
cannabis,
dispensaries
and
distribution
center.
I
spoken
with
many
san
mateo
avenue,
businesses,
schools
and
citizens.
Most
of
them
didn't
know
the
cannabis.
Dispensary
issue
is
currently
being
discussed.
G
G
A
measure
regarding
how
to
whether
to
allow
marijuana
dispensaries
into
our
city
should
be
put
on
the
ballot
so
that
everyone
can
have
a
right
to
vote
on
this
issue.
It's
an
important
and
critical
decision
that
should
not
rest
in
the
hands
of
only
five
people.
The
taxation
measure
that
was
on
the
ballot
two
years
ago
was
not
appropriate,
since
the
first
issue
that
should
have
been
voted
on
was
whether
to
permit
this
type
of
business.
G
In
our
city,
the
public
has
been
misled
and
the
results
from
that
taxation
measure
have
been
misused
and
misinterpreted
to
assume
that
we
want
this.
We
are
losing
our
shopping
mall
to
tampering
san
mateo
avenue
is
our
original
downtown
commercial
district.
The
businesses
are
starting
to
make
a
comeback
and
thrive.
We
should
continue
to
encourage
and
support
our
businesses
that
have
a
positive
economic
and
social
impact
in
our
community.
G
The
cannabis
dispensaries
aren't
supposed
to
be
within
600
feet
of
schools,
because
they're
considered
sensitive
land
use.
We
have
many
businesses
that
cater
to
families
and
children
on
every
block
of
san
mateo
avenue,
and
they
could
be
within
a
few
feet
of
a
dispensary.
They
should
all
be
considered
as
sensitive
landlords.
We
use.
We
need
to
be
mindful
of
our
families
with
children,
our
youth
and
senior
citizens.
Everyone
should
feel
comfortable
and
safe
visiting
our
downtown
area.
G
G
We
already
have
a
few
smoke
shops
that
sell
cbd
products.
The
well-being
and
health
of
our
residents
should
be
a
top
priority,
especially
for
those
who
may
be
more
vulnerable.
The
decision
that
the
city
council
makes
will
impact
the
economic
future
of
our
existing
businesses
and
social
well-being
of
the
entire
community
for
years
to
come.
G
Please
consider
the
negative
impacts
that
the
cannabis
industry
will
have
on
our
community.
Our
original
downtown
commercial
district
should
be
a
family-friendly,
welcome
destination
for
everybody.
Please
do
not
move
forward
in
accepting
this
type
of
business.
If
you
prefer
to
proceed,
then
please
place
a
measure
on
our
next
ballot
to
give
all
san
bernardino
registered
voters
the
right
and
privilege
to
participate
in
this
process.
I
think
it's
imperative
that
city
council
continues
forward
in
an
all-inclusive
and
transparent
process,
especially
taking
into
consideration
our
culturally
diverse
population
and
those
who
are
socioeconomically
vulnerable.
C
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
sir,
we
can
thank
you
and
go
ahead
good
evening.
B
B
I
think
the
49ers
when
they
came
across
the
country,
probably
had
a
smoother
ride
than
driving
on
el
camino,
and
I
just
think
it's
really
it's
just
bad
for
the
city,
his
image.
This
is
the
first
thing
you
see,
since
I
have
some
time
left
I'd
like
to
thank
the
people
who
are
talking
about
the
dispensaries,
I'm
against
it.
B
I've
said
that
before,
and
I
think
it's
kind
of
ironic
that
I
went
downtown
the
other
day-
I
hadn't
been
there
for
a
while
and
off
all
the
flight
of
the
the
light.
Poles
is
hanging.
These
banners
that
say
all
smoke
is
bad,
yet
we
want
to
have
more
smoke
in
the
atmosphere,
so
I
I
think
it's
kind
of
ironic
that
the
city
would
promote
having
a
smoke
shop
and
that
and
at
the
same
time,
saying
smoke
is
bad.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Be
promoting
the
next
speaker
who
will
be
jeremy,
saraki.
B
Hello
council,
my
name
is
jeremy
sarnicki.
I
will
be
a
candidate
for
city
council
member
district,
one.
I
was
going
to
plan
on
remaining
quiet
and
paying
my
respects
to
memorialize
the
tragic
loss
of
life
that
took
place
in
our
city
12
years
ago,
but
I
just
wanted
to
state
my
support
for
the
public's
will
that
was
shown
two
years
ago
on
the
issue
of
the
marijuana
ordinance.
B
C
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
I'll
bring
in
the
next
speaker
alex
menendez
hold
on.
As
I
bring
you
over.
C
Alex
when
you're
ready,
please
go
ahead.
J
Good
evening,
city
council,
I'm
actually
not
gonna
comment
on
marijuana
tonight.
I'm
actually
here
to
comment
on
an
article
in
the
daily
journal.
I
believe
it
was
on
august
18th
regarding
some
of
our
developments
that
have
failed
to
take
shape.
I
think
it's.
J
You
know
whether
how
much
of
it
is
in
our
control
versus
how
much
of
it
is
not
it's
it's
fairly
disappointing
to
see
as
a
lifelong
resident
myself
to
not
see
a
lot
of
these
projects
take
shape,
especially
as
we
see
some
of
our
neighboring
cities
really
ramp
up,
particularly
housing
developments.
Not
all
the
developments
referenced
here
were
solely
housing,
but
a
good
portion
of
them
were,
I
think,
there's
a
lot.
J
Our
city
can
do,
especially
in
the
upcoming
housing
element
process,
to
make
sure
that
we
do
not
see
these
kind
of
slowdowns
or
failures
replicated
many
of
our
pipeline
projects,
including
the
mills
park
project,
is
not
moving
forward.
J
J
We
really
need
to
start
considering
how
we
can
streamline
approvals,
reduce
concessions
and
slimming
down
our
project
pipeline
if
we
were
ever
going
to
reach
either
this
arena
allocation
or
a
next
arena
allocation
and,
as
I
always
always
always
have
to
highlight,
whenever
I
talk
about
housing
stats
arena
acronyms,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
we're
trying
to
meet
with
those
goals
is
providing
safe,
stable
housing
during
this
housing
shortage.
We
really
need
to
do
our
best
to
make
sure
that
these
projects
can
get
built.
J
J
I
do
think
our
city's
housing
element
is
in
a
bit
better
shape
than
some
neighboring
cities,
but
it
also
means,
after
this
article,
I
really
think
it
means
we
need
to
be
held
to
a
higher
standard
again,
please
look
forward
to
implementing
streamlining
and
per
housing
policies
and
the
upcoming
housing
element
process.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you
very
much.
K
K
Listening
to
many
of
the
council
meetings,
many
of
the
planning
commission
meetings
and
first
I
want
to
say
that
we're
very
appreciative
of
the
hard
work
that
you
all
put
in
and
the
long
hours
that
you
spend
helping
to
run
our
city
very
appreciative
indeed,
and
the
city
staff.
K
I
was
listening
to
a
planning
commission
meeting
a
few
days
ago
and
one
of
the
topics
that
was
on
that
particular
agenda
and
that
will
be
coming
forward
to
the
city
council
was
in
regards
to
the
mills
park
project
and
an
extension
being
provided
to
the
developers
for
two
years
in
the
in
the
contract
for
for
the
development
of
the
project.
K
The
one
thing
I
wanted
to
comment
on
is
that
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
careful.
It's
it's
understandable
that
the
pandemic
has
slowed
many
investment
companies
down
many
projects
down,
that's
entirely
understandable,
but
while
we
wait
for
that
project
to
move
forward,
the
area
of
that
mills
park
becomes
less
desirable.
K
The
the
area
is
turning
towards
blight.
Businesses
are
moving
out
and
we're
losing
a
lot
of
eventual
tax
revenue
on
the
improved
properties.
When
that's
pre,
when
that's
completed
the
the
thing
I
wanted
that
struck,
my
attention
is
that
the
process
that
was
approved
or
recommended
to
the
city
council
will
allow
the
developers
a
two-year
extension
but
will
maintain
the
already
present
two-year
extension
that
they
can
purchase
in
the
in
the
contract
itself.
K
And
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
moving
forward
that
our
city
and
our
analysts
and
our
city
council
are
sure
that
these
are
the
right
partners
that
their
viability
is
monitored
along
the
way
through
this
process,
and
perhaps
not
not,
you
not
allow
them
a
second
extension
to
remain
within
the
contract
if
we
provide
them
this
first,
this
first
extension
for
free.
That's
all
I
have
to
say.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
comments.
That's
the
end
of
our
public
speakers.
For
this
evening
we
can
stop
sharing
the
screen
and
we'll
move
on
to
item
number.
Five
item
number
five
announcements
and
presentations,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
the
public
speakers
for
your
patience
and
waiting
since
we
did
not
start
on
time
announcements,
presentations
item
five
september,
9th
2022
marks
12
years
since
the
natural
gas
pipeline
explosion
and
fire
in
the
crestmoor
neighborhood.
We
will
never
forget
the
lives
that
were
lost
and
the
residents
that
were
affected
by
that
evening.
C
C
10
years
later
and
before
you
on
the
screen
is
in
the
remembrance
of
the
eight
individuals
that
were
that
died
through
this
tragedy
and,
of
course
there
are
many
more
that
have
emotional
and
physical
scars
that
will
never
go
away
so
for
myself
and
the
council
and
the
staff.
We
want
to
mark
that
this
is
a
remembrance
and
on
september,
9th
we'll
make
12
years.
C
All
items
are
considered
routine
or
implemented
by
an
earlier
council
action
and
may
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
There
will
be
no
separate
discussion
unless
request.
We
have
items
6a
through
6j.
Is
there
any
item?
The
council,
a
council
member
wishes
to
remove
for
a
separate,
separate
vote?
No
separate
vote
got
it?
Is
there
any
items
that
to
have
a
comment
or
ask
a
question?
Vice
mayor.
A
Thank
you,
mayor
medina.
I
just
had
a
comment.
I
did
notice
in
both
6b
and
6c
that
we're
seeing
lydia's
again
on
the
payroll
and
we
never
had
a
discussion
around
procurement,
I'm
still
waiting
on
the
local
procurement
policy.
We
never
had
a
discussion
on
local
procurement.
A
This
was
brought
up
and
at
some
point
I
was
informed
that
some
that
these
funds
are
reimbursed.
So
it
would
be
good
to
know
that,
if
we're
selecting
from
a
county,
a
county
group
that
was
part
of
a
county
procurement,
it
would
be
helpful
to
know
if
we're
being
reimbursed
for
those
funds
and
if
not,
why
we're
not
actually
using
local
local
vendors.
A
So
I
I
am
just
making
a
comment.
I
don't
expect
staff
to
respond
right
now
because
I
didn't
let
them
know
in
advance,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
something
that's
important
it's
been
raised
before
and
it's
still
an
outstanding
concern.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
and
then
also
I'd
like
to
move
on
to
item
c,
accept
payroll
for
july
17,
2022
and
july
31st,
2022.
C
Thank
you
would
like
to
proceed
on
to
item
g,
adopt
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
execute
a
joint
use
agreement
with
the
san
bernardino
park
school
district,
nice
man.
A
Yeah,
so
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
everybody
who
worked
on
this.
We
had
a
pretty
long
meeting
on
may
16th
around
the
joint
use
agreement
and
at
the
meeting
were
staff
members,
director,
amatola
matt
lee
city
manager,
jovan
grogan
and
then
marty
medina
and
myself
were
on
the
two
by
two
committee
and
then
from
the
san
bernardino
park
school
district.
We
had
mariana
solomon
and
then
trustees
adriana
shea
and
jennifer
blanco,
and
we
really
went
through
many
of
the
terms
within
the
joint
use
agreement.
A
I
think
we
ended
up
meeting
for
maybe
two
hours,
maybe
over
two
hours
staff
was
very,
very
responsive.
A
As
far
as
the
concerns
that
had
been
raised
to
get
to
this
agreement,
the
board
of
trustees
did
approve
this
agreement
in
their
last
meeting,
and
I
kind
of
just
want
to
highlight
that
you
know
this
is
going
to
essentially
make
it
so
leagues,
currently
they're
coming
to
the
city
and
paying
per
player
and
then
they're
going
to
the
district
and
paying
per
player
and
now
they're
going
to
just
go
to
it's
like
a
one-stop
shop
for
those
district
locations.
A
A
It
also
establishes
that
lions
lions
field
is
that
of
the
san
bernardino
park
school
district,
and
it
makes
some,
I
think
it
clarifies
some
things
that
had
been
outdated
for
a
very
long
time
so,
prior
to
my
being
on
the
two
by
two
medina
was
on
the
two
by
two,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
thank
everybody
who
worked
towards
getting
to
this
joint
use
agreement.
That
is,
you
know,
probably
ten
years
overdue.
So
thank
you.
Thanks
for
everyone
who
worked
on
it.
A
C
This
is
coming
up
september,
7th
through
the
9th
first.
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
hamilton
for
willing
to
be
the
delegate
then
of
the
last
two
times,
and
I
think
if
somebody
else
is
wishing
to
attend
and
be
there,
I
think
it's
good.
What
I'm?
What
I'm
telling
my
colleagues
is.
C
There's
two
twofold
to
this:
is
we
need
to
give
council
member
hamilton
the
flexibility
on
the
resolutions
or
amendments
during
the
conference,
because
there's
dialogue,
there's
debate,
there's
and
sometimes
there's
not,
but
things
come
up
and
so
that
latitude
needs
to
be
given
to
council
member
hamilton,
as
our
delegate,
which
this
would
certainly
validate
that
I
will
on
the
peninsula,
which
is
our
region.
We
have
the
executive
board
and
there
is
one
contested
seat
and
that's
a
candidate
at
large.
C
I've
spoken
to
one
of
the
candidates
and
have
done
some
also
calling
over
the
weekend
to
find
out
more
I'll,
be
voting
on
that
sending
in
electronically
in
the
next
couple
days.
So
if
any
colleague
has
a
question
you
can
let
me
know
that
is
it
from
for
me
and
we
did
have
a
member
of
the
public
and
I
just
wanted
to
check
if
mr
zelnick
wished
to
speak
on
consent
or
is
there
anybody
else
in
the
audience
that
wishes
to
speak
on
consent.
C
Oh
second,
thank
you.
Motion.
Styles
are
a
second
hamilton.
I
will
do
a
roll
call
council,
member
hamilton,
all
right,
councilmember
medina,
all
right,
council
member
salazar
hi
vice
mayor,
mason,
mayor
rico,
medina
hi.
We
have
a
5-0
on
consent
that
will
move
us
to
study
session.
The
first
item
is
item
a
direction.
D
Thank
you,
mayor
directly,
director
montola
really
helped
to
support
the
city
and
the
council's
subcommittee
through
this
process.
So
I'll
turn.
The
presentation
over
to
her
she'll
provide
a
brief
introduction
and
then
introduce
the
consultant
architect
that
worked
on
the
design.
H
Good
evening,
mayor
medina
and
council
members-
really,
I
just
want
to
give
a
brief
introduction
to
brian
fletcher,
who
is
our
landscape
architect
from
calendar
and
associates
and
has
been
working
with
us
on
this
conceptual
plan
for
centennial
plaza
this
evening.
H
He's
going
to
guide
you
through
the
timeline
of
the
project
and
a
presentation
of
the
final
plan
that
we
worked
on
with
the
city
council,
downtown
committee
and
we're
pretty
excited
about
that
presentation
this
evening
and
then
we're
going
to
close
and
turn
it
back
to
staff
and
we'll
have
a
conversation
about
the
funding
for
the
project.
So
with
that,
I'm
happy
to
turn
it
over
to
brian
fletcher.
I
Thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
it.
Mr
mayor
and
council
members.
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
before
you
tonight
and
walk
you
through
the
process
and
the
plans
that
that
we
have
in
front
of
you
for
consideration
tonight.
So
how
about
next
slide?
I
So
I'll,
be
very
brief,
but
I
thought
it'd
be
important
to
go
through
kind
of
the
timeline
of
the
process
on
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
tonight.
I'm
sure
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
downtown
plaza,
but
in
earnest
it
resurfaced
again
in
2019
with
the
development
of
the
downtown
streetscape
plan.
Within
that
plan,
the
park
centennial
park
was
identified
as
an
opportunity
for
an
active
and
event
space,
and
you
can
see
in
some
of
the
imagery
that
was
presented
in
that
plan
there,
so
that
was
2019
and
2021.
I
I
We
did
evaluate
two
options
and
you
can
see
those
in
front
of
you
and
I'm
sure
you
recognize
those,
but
during
the
process
and
identified
a
few
things
that
that
we
weren't
able
to
work
on
at
the
time,
meaning
we
noticed
that
there
was,
even
though
it
seems
flat.
There
are
some
grades
that
are
going
on
there,
so
there
were
some
accessibility
issues
that
without
a
topographic
survey,
we
really
couldn't
evaluate.
I
We
all
kind
of
came
to
the
realization
that
the
desired
project
and
program
could
not
be
exceeded
the
budget
at
that
time
and
that
we
also
determined
that
a
project
under
a
million
dollars
could
not
be
built
in
the
design
build
process
that
was
anticipated.
So
we
had
to
rethink
and
retool
the
process
at
that
point
next
slide,
so
that
brought
us
to.
I
I
So
if
you
remember,
this
was
brought
in
april
of
2022
first
to
the
downtown
committee
and
then
recommended
for
the
full
council
and
presentation
at
that
time,
the
council
preferred
a
much
more
neutral
theme
than
the
airport
theme
funding
continued
to
be
a
concern,
but
at
that
time
the
service
services
foundation
also
expressed
interest
in
potentially
funding
this
as
a
project.
I
So
what
we
did
then
was
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
we
we
actually
worked
closely
with
the
downtown
subcommittee
to
kind
of
take
a
step
back
and
go.
What
was
what
is
the
program
that
we
want
to
accomplish
here?
What
are
other
kind
of
plazas
and
incomparable
spaces
that
that
we
think
could
work
here,
and
we
asked
the
committee
to
bring
imagery,
as
you
can
see,
in
the
book
below
on
on
comparable
spaces,
and
then
we
sat
down
and
had
a
good
old-fashioned
design
for
it.
I
I
think
it
was
really
productive
in
that
we
sat
down
with
pen
and
paper
sketched
out
ideas.
We
actually
walked
to
the
site
and
took
a
look
at
some
of
these
issues
of
grading
and
access
and
and
continuity
with
the
rest
of
the
streetscape
at
that
time
so,
and
that
led
to
the
design
that
we're
representing
into
tonight.
So
to
begin
that,
we
looked
at
just
general
goals
and
objectives
first
off
to
increase
accessibility
for
public
use
and
accessibility
is
not
just
for
all
abilities.
I
There
was
a
great
concert
that
was
out
there
a
big
stage
during
the
summer,
so
you
can
see
the
potential
that
this
site
has
as
long
as
we
kind
of
give
it
give
it
some
give
it
some
more
place
for
some
more
place.
Making
ability,
also
user
groups
were
desired,
not
only
seniors
and
adults,
but
also
children
to
have
a
place
for
all
and
then
then
I'll
get
to
this
is
built
upon
what
was
developed
in
the
streetscape
plan.
I
A
lot
of
effort
and
time
had
been
put
into
that
plan,
and
how
could
we
use
this
as
a
catalyst
for
further
improvements
to
the
downtown
streetscape?
Thank
you
javon
next
site.
So
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
a
few
of
the
existing
condition,
images
that
are
out
there
and
kind
of
show
you
what
we're
seeing
and
what
the
downtown
committee
saw
when
we
were
doing
the
design
sketches.
So
first
off
is
the
plaza
is
to
the
right,
and
you
can
see
the
downtown
sidewalk
in
this
case
is
actually
bowled
out.
I
You
can
definitely
see
that
we've
got
a
pat
four
quilt
of
different,
concrete
pours
that
have
that
have
happened
over
time.
We've
got
grading,
that's
happening
there,
so
the
committee
and
thought,
wouldn't
this
be
a
great
opportunity
to
actually
have
the
plaza
reach
out
into
the
sidewalk
into
the
street
and
serve
as
a
catalyst
for
future
sidewalk
and
streetscape
improvements
in
the
downtown.
I
You
can
see
the
the
billboard
or
the
the
art
is
getting
a
little
older
in
age,
but
we
still
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
addressed
that
building
frontage
to
make
it
a
pleasing
space.
To
look
at
next
slide:
first,
we
have
the
time
capsule.
I
We
need
to
either
incorporate
that
in
the
into
the
paving
design
or
find
a
suitable
place
to
relocate
it.
That
is
visible,
but
we'll
also
make
make
sure
that
the
space
that
we
create
is
flexible
and
it
wasn't
interfering
with
that.
Next
slide.
We've
got
existing
utilities
out
there.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
utilizing
them,
so
we
don't
have
to.
We
can
save
money
that
way,
but
also
be
aware
to
kind
of
screen
them
and
soften
their
appearance.
I
Next
slide,
you
can
see
the
alleyway
to
the
left-hand
side
going
from
the
downtown
streetscape
san
mateo
avenue
to
the
parking
in
the
back
next
slide
and
here's
another
imagery
of
that,
and
you
can
start
to
see
some
of
the
gray
difference
that
happens
from
the
downtown
from
san
mateo
avenue
down
to
the
parking
lot.
Is
it's
a
little
bit
above
five
percent
great
going
down
there?
So
here's
the
plan
in
front
of
you
tonight.
I
What
we
tried
to
do
was
first,
create
a
large
plaza,
that's
very
flexible,
that
there
isn't
a
lot
of
things
that
are
blocking
that
in
the
the
upper
area
you'll
see
in
a
second,
we
walk
through
this.
You
can
see
that
we've
brought
that
plaza
actually
as
part
of
sidewalk
improvements
along
san
mateo
avenue,
so
it
doesn't
just
stop
at
the
property
line.
It
goes
on
the
sidewalk
as
well
to
create
that
catalyst
project,
but
at
the
same
time,
bringing
in
downtown
street
trees
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
buffer.
I
You
can
you'll
see
in
a
second
the
downtown
stage
that
can
provide
for
small
events
and
a
lower
area
that
would
be
catered
to
to
smaller
kids
and
families
down
at
the
lower
end,
to
look
at
these
a
little
bit
more
closely
and
some
of
the
materials.
This
is
the
lower
end
down
by
the
parking
lot
really.
What
we're
looking
at
is
small
little
elements
that
the
kids
can
actually
climb
on
and
play
on
and
get
to
be
able
to
hang
out
with
their
parents.
I
I
I
Access
up
to
it
and
finally,
is
kind
of
the
larger,
flexible,
open,
plaza
area.
What
we're
looking
at
is
flexible,
cafe,
style,
seating
that
could
be
movable,
some
larger
kind
of
picnic,
type
type
seating
and
then,
with
that
to
bring
in
some
night
vibrancy
we're
looking
at
doing
festoon
lighting
down
at
that
bottom
right
hand,
side
and
to
bring
some
some
ambiance
during
the
night
and
some
security
lighting
as
well.
I
I
The
wall
has
been
addressed
with
new
murals
and
you
can
see
some
buffer
planting
and
seating
on
the
left
hand
side
to
buffer
from
san
mateo
avenue
next
slide
we're
down
at
the
lower
level
at
the
parking
lot
looking
up
into
the
park
itself,
and
this
is
what
it
could
look
like.
You
can
see,
on
the
right
hand,
side
a
small
children's
play
area
with
seating
for
the
parents.
You
can
see
that
we've
addressed
the
accessibility
issues
with
some
ramping.
I
That's
incorporated
down
the
middle
of
the
site
to
activate
the
space,
and
then
you
can
see
in
the
background
the
stage
with
the
overhead,
as
well
as
the
picnic
area
with
the
festoon
lighting
as
well.
So
with
that,
I
think
that
concludes
my
portion.
I'll
invite
ann
back
up
to
speak
more
to
it
thanks
brian.
H
I'm
sorry
I
did
want
to
let
council
know
that
we
presented
this
project
to
the
parks
and
recreation
committee
commission
at
their
last
meeting
on
august
17th
and
overall
they
were
very
supportive
of
the
design,
but
they
did
express
their
concern
and
ask
that
I
share
with
you
this
evening
just
their
concern
about
this
project.
Moving
forward
the
head
of
the
florida
ave
project,
which
remains
unfunded
at
this
time.
As
you
know,
after
two
failed
attempts
at
the
california
state
parks
prop
68
granted
getting
back
to
this
project.
H
So
the
total
project
cost
is
not
a
little
over
nine
hundred
twelve
thousand
dollars.
The
current
contract
that
we
have
with
calendar
for
design
services
is
a
little
over.
Seventy
thousand.
H
The
remaining
amount
estimated
to
complete
this
to
take
it
to
construction
documents
and
construction
is
8.42,
so
on
may
on
may
25th
council
allocated
150
000,
which
means
our
delta
is
a
little
over
760
to
2
000
to
fund
this
project,
so
the
action
that
staff
is
seeking
this
evening
is
council's
direction,
whether
to
proceed
with
this
conceptual
plan
and,
if
so,
direction
regarding
the
remaining
financial
need
for
the
project
and
with
that
it
concludes
our
presentation
and
we're
all
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
C
C
Okay,
I'm
seeing
none
at
this
time,
we'll
open
it
to
members
of
the
public,
any
members
of
the
public
that
wish
to
speak
on
this
topic.
If
you
could,
please
raise
your
virtual
hand,
which
would
be
appreciated,
and
we
will.
I
see
two
speakers
currently
and
then
we
will
go
ahead
and
ask
that
they
be
brought
in.
Please.
B
H
B
F
B
In
there-
and
they
are
tied
well
down
to
the
ground
or
whatever,
that
that's
not
going
to
totally
resolve
the
the
winds
that
do
come
up
very
strong
at
times.
And
I
don't
know
how
many
people
want
to.
B
G
I
did
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
all
of
the
hard
work
that
you
all
do
on
our
behalf.
You
do
so
much
that
we're
not
aware
of-
and
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
thank
you,
and
I
also
wanted
to
say
I
had
looked
at
these
diagrams,
that
you
had
posted
on
the
agendas,
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
wonderful
idea,
as
you're
planning
to
open
up
that
space
and
make
it
a
community
area.
G
I
was
recently
in
livermore
in
the
afternoon
on
a
weekend
with
my
husband
and
they
have
their
downtown
area,
their
original
downtown
area,
something
similar
where
it's
as
you're
driving
in
there's
like
a
little
fountain
and
families
with
kids
were
playing
and
people
were
roller
skating
and
then
nearby
in
front
of
some
restaurants.
There
was
music
playing
and
it
just
felt
like
a
very
friendly
warm
inviting
space
in
that
community,
and
I
think
that
this
upgrading
that
you're
planning
on
doing
on
the
centennial
plaza.
G
I
think
that
is
an
excellent
step
in
the
right
direction
to
again
make
our
d
our
original
downtown
area
a
very
viable
welcoming
place
for
our
citizens
and
to
bring
more
business
in
to
our
local.
G
You
know,
businesses
that
are
established
there,
especially
since
we're
losing
fran
and
tam
friend,
used
to
have
a
lot
of
things
like
the
halloween
parade
and
local
groups
singing
and
dancing,
and
I
think
in
the
meantime
this
is
a
nice
way
of
building
up
our
downtown
business
area
and
bringing
in
some
good
positive
change
in
foot
traffic
and
then
also
I
saw
a
notation
about
a
farmer's
market.
That
would
also
be
a
wonderful
thing
to
bring
to
our
community
to
have
that
available
for
everybody.
G
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
council
for
comments,
questions.
I
know
I'll
just
start
off
with
one
quick
question.
I
don't
want
to
jump
in
front
of
my
colleagues
is
if
this
project
were
to
go
forward
and
find
its
funding
source,
what
would
be
the
ongoing
maintenance
costs?
C
We
always
hear
about
staffing
and
these
other
things
that
we
can't
provide
to
the
community
that
they
look
toward
so
do
we
know
what
that
is.
H
I
we
would
actually
need
to
wait
for
the
final
design
to
analyze
it.
You
can
see,
though,
a
lot
of
it
is
kind
of
is
hardscape
which
actually
lowers
the
type
of
park
maintenance
generally.
That
would
be
needed
there,
but
we
wouldn't
have
a
cost
until
the
design
is
done.
C
Okay,
thank
you
and
sorry,
colleagues,
comments
and
questions
from
colleagues,
statements
or
other.
C
A
No
not
not
to
ping
pong,
but
go
ahead
to
council
member,
because
I'm
actually
looking
for
something
so
go
ahead.
Count
some
over.
F
All
right,
thank
you,
so
I
wanted
to.
I
wanted
to
comment
that
I
agree
with
the
park
and
rec
commission's
comments
about
putting
this
ahead
of
florida
park
and
I
hadn't
thought
about
that.
But
I
mean
that
that
project
has
been
delayed
and
and
deferred,
and
you
know
that
community
has
been
asking
consistently
for
us
to
to
go
back
and
complete
that
project,
and
you
know
if
we're,
if
we're
going
to
scramble
to
fund
this,
why
aren't
we
scrambling
to
fund
that
project?
F
You
know
initially
when
this
came
to
us
as
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar
thing
figure:
okay,
that
that's
not
going
to
do
much
at
florida
park,
but
when
we're
talking
about
close
to
a
million
dollars,
that's
price
tag
that
we
had
for
completing
that
other
park
which,
for
a
long
time,
has
been
sitting
vacant.
F
And
you
know
another
thing
I
was
considering
is
you
know
now
that
we've
had
a
community
day
downtown
and
we've
actually
demonstrated
how
the
that
the
downtown
can
be
energized
for
a
small
cost,
not
a
million
dollars
temporarily,
but
just
creating
a
focus
and
events
that
that
will
bring
the
public
down.
There
can
have
the
the
effect
that
we're
looking
for
without
making
this
investment
at
this
time
and
again
when
we
have
so
many
unmet
needs.
Why
is
this
one
becoming
such
a
priority
to
us.
A
I
guess
a
couple
things,
so
the
first
thing
is:
I'm
glad
that
the
issue
around
florida
avenue
was
brought
up.
I
think
that
from
for
me,
the
reason
this
is
a
priority
over
florida
park
is
because
florida
park
is
usable.
A
When
I
was
talking
to
my
kids
about
centennial
park,
they
refer
to
it
as
the
park
that
nobody
can
enter.
Is
that
the
park
that
nobody
can
enter
and
at
least
florida
park
we
it
is
usable.
A
Now
the
staff
has
tried
on
two
attempts
back-to-back
to
get
grant
funding
for
the
park,
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
should
definitely
prioritize,
but
this
is
what's
before
us
now
and
it
feels
like
oftentimes
everything
gets
pushed
back
because
we're
always
saying
that
there's
another
priority
and
we
have
really
navigated
to
this
point
this
project,
and
so
it
would
be
a
kind
of
a
waste
of
the
time
and
the
money
that
has
been
spent
so
far,
essentially
saying
as
a
council
that
we're
supporting
this
moving
forward
and
then
to
now
say
no,
let's
go
back
and
then
go
to
florida
park,
and
then
we
just
never
get
anything
done.
A
It
feels
like
so
I
think
it
is
important
to
support
what
is
before
us,
and
if
florida
is
a
priority,
then
it
needs
to
be
a
priority.
I
think
set
by
the
council
to
determine
in
the
next
year
how
we're
going
to
budget
and
fund
our
priorities,
and
I
would
be
very
supportive
of
that.
I
think
the
other
area
that
I
want
to
make
sure
to
mention
is
that
the
the
council
did
approve
a
streetscape
plan.
A
It
was
something
that
was
looked
at
even
when
I
was
a
planning
commissioner
back
in,
I
want
to
say,
2018
and
approved
by
the
council
in
1920
and,
as
I
understand
it,
this
is
now
the
second
streetscape
plan
and
actually
what
the
night
it
came
to
the
planning
commission.
I
remember
speaking
to
a
long-time
planning
commissioner,
afterwards
saying.
A
Oh,
this
is
the
second
one,
the
first
one,
nothing
ever
got
done,
and
so
it's
like
here,
we
are
with
one
more
opportunity
to
invest
in
our
downtown,
it's
a
million
dollars
out
of
a
20
million
dollar
fund
and-
and
I
think
that
we
really
need
to
again
take
action
towards
something
another
plan
that
we've
already
invested
in
and
follow
through
with
with
what
it
is
that
we've
all
really
agreed
to
when
it
came
to
the
council
when
it
came
to
the
commission-
and
I
I
think
the
other
area
that
I
wanted
to
just
touch
on
is
when
we
talk
about
the
funding
when
the
community
foundation
made
a
determination
not
to
prioritize
downtown,
which
was
the
number
one
request
of
the
focus
groups.
A
They
also
came
to
us
and
said
that
they
are
willing
to
fund
500
000
of
this
particular
park,
and
so
it
is
something
that
I'm
curious.
That's
the
question
I
would
have
for
staff
is:
where
are
those
conversations
today
and
is
that
commitment
has
that
commitment
still?
Is
that
still
on
the
table,
since
this
is
before
us
tonight?
As
a
study
session
item.
D
Staff
have
has
had
preliminary
conversations
from
the
foundation
and
that
portion
is
approximately
500
000
that
the
city
can't
apply
for,
and
so
following
tonight's
conversation,
we're
really
looking
for
direction
from
the
city
council
on
the
current
design,
as
well
as
thoughts
on
how
to
fund
the
remaining
balance
of
roughly
seven
hundred
and
sixty
four
thousand.
If
so,.
D
It
was
not
committed,
so
the
the
foundation
in
their
budget
has
a-
and
I
cannot
remember
at
this
moment
the
name
of
the
fund
that
they
put
it
in,
but
I
think
I
want
to
say
with
strategic
ramps,
but
there
is
a
area
where
the
city
can
apply
for
funds
roughly
a
half
a
million
dollars.
So
should
the
city
council
direct
have
to
apply
for
funds
from
the
san
bernardino
community
foundation?
We
will
certainly
do
that
funding
the
balance
of
roughly
264
thousand
dollars.
A
Find
the
remaining
portion
from
this
directive.
Thank
you
and
then
just
my.
My
final
comment
is
just
that
this
is
significantly
improved
from
the
earlier
iterations.
A
So
I
just
want
to
thank
the
designers,
and
I
want
to
thank
director
mottola
for
kind
of
going
back
and
forth
and
having
patience
with
that
with
everyone
to
get
here.
I
think
it
looks
great
and
I
know
it's
a
significant
cost,
but
again
we
really
need
to
start
acting
and
like
actually
putting
actions
behind
our
words,
and
the
time
is
now
I
mean
it's.
A
Why
wait
again
and
kick
the
can
down
the
road
and
then
another
park's
gonna
come
before
us
and
then
we're
gonna
say
why
isn't
centennial
park
done
yet,
and
I
just
think
we
need
to
start
and
finish
something.
So
thank
you.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
know
my
my
feeling
my
son's
a
little
bit
earlier,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it's
okay.
Now
I
could
also
turn
off
the
video.
C
E
Okay,
I'll
be
lit
I'll,
be
looking
at
your
screen,
mr
mayor,
for
some
kind
of
signal.
So
I
first
wanted
to
thank
staff
and
my
colleague
tom
hamilton,
for
serving
with
me
on
the
downtown
improvement
committee,
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
a
couple
comments.
First
and
and
community
day
was
spectacular,
downtown.
E
That
feeling
has
been
supported
by
the
data
collected
by
the
san
bruno
community
foundation,
as
the
downtown
improvement
was
overwhelmingly
the
number
one
thing
our
resident
has
wanted
to
see.
So
in
response
to
that,
this
is
absolutely
the
right
thing
to
do.
E
The
wind
in
san
bruno
is
everywhere,
so
in
the
later
afternoons
yeah
it's
gonna
be
hard
to
try
to
do
much
there,
but
during
the
day
up
until
three
o'clock,
it's
generally
pretty
nice
on
the
weekends.
You
can
have
all
kinds
of
things
going
on
there.
So
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
for
florida
park,
I
have
to
say
that
I'm
refused
on
voting
on
florida
park,
but
for
any
of
you
that
haven't
been
to
florida
park
in
the
last
year,
it
is
actively
being
used.
E
E
This
is
the
right
thing
to
do
this.
I
fully
support
this.
I
appreciate
the
san
bruno
community
foundation,
understanding
and,
and
possibly
we
also
did
manage
to
renegotiate
a
deal
with
artichoke
joe's
and,
and
it
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world
to
me
that
money
coming
from
a
downtown
business
in
that
volume.
E
Should
it
makes
absolute
sense
that
it
goes
to
the
downtown,
so
this
is
this
will
be
something
that
people
will
be
able
to
look
back
at
and
say
I'm
really
glad
they
did
it,
and
and
and
we
could
check
a
box
and
and
continue
looking
at
how
we
can
continue
to
improve
our
downtown
because
that's
what
our
residents
want.
E
So
I
I
don't
really
have
any
other
questions
other
than
the
thank
yous
and-
and
I
look
forward
to
supporting
this
project.
Thank
you.
M
You
thank
you.
First,
I
want
to
thank
director,
mottola,
councilmember
vedina
and
our
consulting
team
and
everybody
involved
in
bringing
this
project
forward.
It
was
a
great
experience
to
watch
this
project,
go
through
this
process
and
be
able
to
participate
in
this
process.
M
Up
to
this
point,
and
the
team
has
done
an
amazing
job
to
to
get
us
to
this
point.
This
this
project
is
an
opportunity
that
we
don't
see
often
and
it's
a
in-
and
this
is
an
intersection
between
the
city's
needs
and
the
direction
that
the
san
bernardino
community
foundation
had
set
for
itself
and
what
the
community
itself
has
said
by
asking
the
foundation
through
its
survey,
to
focus
on
our
downtown
we've
discussed
previously,
that
the
foundation
isn't
going
to
go
out
and
and
put
together
a
project
and
write
a
check.
M
I
agree
with
councilmember
salazar,
echoed
by
other
council
members
that
that
community
they
demonstrated
how
we
can
activate
and
energize
our
downtown
through
holding
events,
but
that
was
one
day
out
of
the
year
and
we're
all
painfully
aware
that
our
current
financial
situation
means
that
such
events
will
naturally
be
limited
by
opening
up
the
space,
allowing
residents
and
visitors
to
activate
the
space
without
the
city
having
to
plan
and
host
an
event
and
be
able
to
do
that.
M
All
year
round
will
bring
much
needed
traffic
to
our
downtown
and
and
this
project
will
serve
as
a
jump
off
point
for
the
future
streetscape
program
that
we've.
That
council
has
approved,
planning
commission
approved
unanimously,
and
that
we
all
know
is
the
is
our
future
vision
for
downtown.
And
this
is
I'm
excited
to
support
this
project
and
move
us
down
that
path.
C
For
my
you
know,
I
always
believe
that
it's
important
not
to
create
something
not
only
to
create
something
but
know
how
we're
going
to
maintain
something-
and
I
continually
worry
about
that,
because
when
we
were
having
discussions
with
the
glenview
earl
park
and
potentially
the
florida
lot
to
be
a
park,
we
were
told
we
don't
have
enough
staff
to
maintain
it.
C
That's
not
good,
it's
not
good.
In
the
sense
we
once
we
evolve
with
something
like
we
do
the
recreation
aquatic
center
there's
a
business
plan
we
need
to
go
over.
C
So
one
of
my
thoughts
is
yes
on
the
wind,
because,
if
you've
ridden
in
the
posey
parade
to
walk
down
that-
and
we
all
have
I've
been
around
there-
there-
there
is
that
win
element
to
it.
You're
talking
764
000.
So
to
me,
where
that
money
comes
from
or
how
it's
going
to
be.
You
know
if
there's
a
grand
opportunity
of
500
000,
that's
one
thing,
but
that
leaves
264
and
where
is
that
going
to
come
from?
C
Would
we
also
take
opportunities,
as
we
did
with
the
pavilion,
even
though
dedicated
and
donated
by
rotary,
to
have
that
rented
out
as
a
revenue
opportunity
in
which
to
have
that?
Don't
know?
Maybe
it's
not
in
the
right
place,
but
maybe
someone
says
you
know
we'd
like
to
do
something
there,
and
so
maybe
that's
an
opportunity
to
have
some
revenue
opportunity.
I
wanted
to
touch
on
anna's
comment
in
regards
to
the
farmer's
market.
C
There
used
to
be
a
farmer's
market
at
the
mall
in
tampa
and
parking
lot,
and
then
it
went
to
downtown
san
mateo
avenue,
so
that
was
tried
and
what
it
needed
and
still
needs
in
order
for
those
merchants
to
return
is
return,
customers
and
clients
and
they
have
to
spend
their
time
on
the
return
on
their
investment.
C
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
that
has
been
tried,
doesn't
mean
it
can't
be
tried
again,
and
I
think
the
other
comment
that
I
would
have.
I
agree
that
the
park
and
recreation
commission
being
a
former
member
it
does
come
to
you
and
the
concept
is
much
better
than
what
was
originally
shown
to
us.
I
think
you'd
have
an
unanimous
vote
there,
but
I
also
would
say
I
share
their
concern
too,
because
we
still
have
another
commitment
and
promise
we
just
had
somebody
asking
about:
where
are
the
trees
at
a
prior
meeting?
C
So
I
I
do
feel.
Oh
also,
the
halloween,
the
rec,
the
parks
and
recreation
department
did
have
some
halloween
opportunities
during
the
cove
at
times
in
vehicles
that
were
at
the
mall.
C
So
they
tried
to
still
utilize
that
so
people
working
outside
the
box
in
those
challenging
times
so
my
concerns
are
going
to
be
the
business
plan,
the
hours
and
what
it's
going
to
take
to
maintain
that
investment
and
and
can
we
sustain
it
and
also
it's
going
to
be
about
the
funding
source,
because
we
think
we
assume
we
don't
want
to
assume-
or
we
hope
and
hope
is
not
a
plan
that
we're
going
to
have
500
here
and
then
that
for
it
makes
it
easy
there.
C
But
we
don't
know
that
yet
right.
This
is
to
give
council
direction
for
and
again
initial
direction.
So,
like
say,
hey,
the
concept
is,
is,
is
looking
good,
much
better
and
then
to
find
those
funding
sources
bring
that
back
to
council
with
those
additional
statements
or
comments
that
were
made,
and
I
believe,
that's
kind
of
what
we're
here
to
do
tonight
and
so
but
again-
and
I
usually
don't
talk
this
much.
But
you
know
you
go
back
in
history,
it
was
wells
fargo
just
for
the
community's
interest.
C
Then
then,
cable
tv,
you
know
called
city
net
services
utilized
that
and
had
there
were
events
there,
but
the
chamber
did
and
then
it
was
demolished
and
it
was
a
chain
link
fence
with
weeds.
That's
what
it
was
that
goes
back
a
long
time
over
a
decade,
and
so
this
was
a
temporary
mark
in
which
to
not
spend
not
go
out
to
a
consultant.
C
C
So
it
is
time
and
the
vice
mayor's
comment,
because
I
I
I
think
young
or
more
mature
would
all
say
how
do
you
call
this
a
park
if
you
can't
go
inside
so,
even
though
it's
a
plaza,
but
that
same
question
has
come
up
then,
as
it
is
now
so,
with
that
councilmember
hamilton.
M
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
reminding
me
I
had
in
my
I
had
in
my
notes
to
make
a
comment
about
the
wind
and
I
skipped
over
that
one.
M
When
I
was
doing
my
remarks
so
it
agreed,
it
can
be
windy,
downtown
absolutely
and
if
you
note
in
the
design
and
the
the
overhead
designs,
the
there's
five
trees
along
the
the
frontage
of
the
park,
therefore
not
only
for
street
trees
to
which
is
something
that
we
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
do
all
up
and
down
san
mateo
avenue,
but
also
to
help
screen
some
of
that
wind
from
from
entering
the
the
plaza
the.
So
that
was
my
first
remark.
M
I
had
a
second
one,
but
it's
not
coming
to
me
right
now,
so
I'll
just
end
it
right.
There.
A
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
echo
something
that
councilmember
medina
mentioned
earlier,
is
that
we
did
receive
the
artichoke
joe's
funds.
That
was,
I
think,
a
huge
benefit
to
the
city
and
those
funds
are
available
and,
as
the
city
manager
reported
at
that
particular
meeting,
I
want
to
say
two
meetings
ago.
A
Those
funds
have
not
been
expended,
and
so
I
would
definitely
support
those
funds
going
to
completing
and
actually
completing
a
project,
and-
and
I
think
I
also
just
wanted
to
mention
the
woman
anna
who
spoke
earlier-
I
really
loved
how
she
embraced
the
idea
of
having
this
community
space
that
many
other
cities
enjoy.
Many
cities
that
have
four
seasons,
unlike
the
bay
area,
enjoy
still
having
these
nice
pocket
parks
and
really
highlighting
that
we
had
a
beautiful
tree
lighting
ceremony
this
past
year.
A
The
the
our
chance
got
together
to
have
an
easter
event
as
well,
and
I
think
that
it's
really
important
that
this
location
be
a
community
place
like
somewhere,
where
people
can
not
just
sit
on
two
benches
that
actually
can
sit
inside
with
each
other,
have
conversations
and
enjoy
the
downtown
get
a
sandwich
to
go.
Get
food
to
go
and
then
sit
down
and
eat
enjoy
some
enjoy
a
you
know.
Food
truck
enjoy
a
concert
in
the
park.
We
don't
have
any
of
that
right
now
and
as
much
as
we
create
plans.
A
I've
said
this
over
and
over.
I
said
it
with
the
master
water
plan.
I've
talked
about
it
with
the
business
plan.
I've
talked
about
it
with
the
business
plan,
not
just
for
the
rack,
but
also
for
what's
coming
on
the
cable.
What
good
are
plans
if
we
are
not
fulfilling
what
they
are
planning
for
the
future,
and
so
we
really
do
need
to
start
taking
our
plan
seriously
and
not
just
investing
and
making
them,
but
actually
investing
in
implementing
what
they're
recommending-
and
I
think,
there's.
A
Lastly,
just
a
question:
I
think-
for
the
city
manager
or
a
clarification
as
far
as
florida
avenue
goes.
Is
I
mean
florida
park
goes?
Is
there
another
grant
opportunity
coming
this
year
because,
as
I
understood
it,
we
were
closer
last
year
than
we
were
the
year
before,
and
I
I
don't
want
that
to
get
lost
in
this
mix.
D
Sure,
thank
you
vice
mayor
mason
staff
is
closely
tracking
state
and
other
grants
for
florida
park.
We
have
not
identified
a
new
grant
cycle
this
year
from
the
state
or
another
source.
We
will
certainly
continue
to
have
that
project
top
of
mind
and,
as
we
have
conversations
with
the
city
council
about
unfunded
needs,
we
will
certainly
continue
to
talk
about
florida
park.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
council,
member
medina
and
council
member
hamilton
for
all
the
time
you
also
spend
to
get
this
together
for
us
tonight.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you
and
apologies
for
having
to
split
my
second
comment
twice,
the
the
other.
The
other
point
had
to
do
with
maintenance.
It
is.
It
is
important
to
understand
what
ongoing
maintenance
costs
would
be,
and
I
would
ask
that
if
the
project
moves
forward-
and
we
get
to
the
point
where
we'll
be
able
to
calculate
the
the
estimated
maintenance
costs,
it's
important
to
note
that
we're
currently
spending
money
to
maintain
the
plaza
that's
currently
there.
M
So
I
just
would
want
to
make
sure
that
and
ask
if
staff
could
present
those
as
a
delta
between
what
is
being
spent
today
and
what
would
be
spent
in
the
future
should
be,
should
this
plaza
come
to
fruition.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
all
and
I
think,
having
those
numbers
are
helpful
on
both
ends
today
versus
the
future
and
to
vice
mayor
mason.
I
believe
I
could
be
wrong
that
in
this
budget,
some
of
the
artichoke
joe's
additional
monies
went
toward
a
community
development
manager,
not
sure
if
I
know
the
title,
but
I
believe
so,
some
of
those
monies
are
already
being
expended
before
we
receive,
but
we
will
receive
them
in
this
budget
cycle.
So
with
that
said,.
C
But
you
said
none
I
was
just
trying
to.
I
think
my
my
memory's
still
going
okay
for
for
right
now.
Is
there
any
other
comments
or
questions?
So
again,
this
is
to
give
direction.
C
C
D
It
is
true
that
a
few
meetings
ago,
the
city
approved
a
revised
agreement
with
artichoke
hills,
where
the
casino,
where
the
casino
will
contribute
an
additional
900
000
a
year
to
the
city
paid
in
quarterly
installments
of
225
000.
D
It
is
also
true
that
a
few
meetings
ago,
the
city
council
added
an
economic
development
or
confer
confirm
the
the
inclusion
of
the
economic
development
manager
position
in
the
budget
and
stated
that
that
position
should
be
funded
from
the
artichoke
joe's
funds
out
of
the
general
fund.
So
to
this
day
at
this
point,
that
position
is
still
being
recruited
for
and
it's
not
funded.
D
I
do
think
what
is
also
true
is
that
toward
the
end
of
the
year,
if
there
are
savings
in
the
general
fund,
it's
possible
that
we
may
not
need
to
utilize
the
article
jill's
funding
this
year
for
that
position,
but
we
certainly
have
the
appropriation
authority
to
do
so,
and
so
we
will
report
on
the
use
of
those
funds
during
our
quarterly
financial
reports
to
keep
the
city
council
priced.
But
as
of
today,
there
has
been
zero
dollars
expended
from
those
funds.
A
C
I
don't
know
if
that's
fair
to
the
city
manager,
he
was
probably
not
even
maybe
he
hadn't
visited
the
same
brewing
yet.
D
Yeah,
you
know,
I
would
say-
and
none
of
the
staff
here
present
tonight-
have
the
history
to
answer
that
question.
But
certainly
we
understand
the
city
council's
concerns
that
should
we
embark
on
this
construction
project,
certainly
knowing
the
full
maintenance
costs
and
putting
that
before
the
city
council
at
an
appropriate
time
is
important,
and
we
will
certainly
do
that.
H
Is
this
a
significant
change,
yeah
yeah
so
again-
and
I
I
do
agree
with
the
mayor-
that
it's
good
to
have
a
more
measured,
solid
answer,
but
just
in
looking
at
it,
we
do
actually
have
to
spend
time
there
there's
like.
I.
I
think
he
knows
it's
a
lot
of
chips,
but
there's
also
some
maintenance
of
the
of
the
different
trees
and
shrubs
and
plantings
that
are
there
so
and
that
covers
probably
about
50
of
what's
there,
and
so
it
seems
to
be
about
a
you
know,
just
kind
of
by
eyeball
gas.
H
It's
about
an
even
trade
of.
What's
there
with
hardscape
to
soft
skate.
So
in
the
design
we
were
hoping
that
would
be
a
trade
out
of
what's
there
but
again,
looking
at
the
complexity
and
the
different
plantings
that
will
be
part
of
the
plan,
we'll
have
we'll
be
able
to
get
make
a
better
assessment,
as
we
have
a
more
specific
schematic
plan.
A
C
I
don't
know
specifically
because
I
was
not
in
office.
I
was
in
office
when
they
went
down,
but
I
was
supposed
to
be
a
so
I
would
assume
and
again
I
don't
want
to
go
back
memories
so
sometimes
having
historical
perspective
and
knowledge
does
help
I'm
going
to
go
on
a
limb.
If
you're
asking
me
rico
make
it
make
a
bet,
I
would
say
that
there
wasn't,
because
it
was
supposed
to
be
temporary,
so
resources
shouldn't
have
been
spent,
come
up
with
planned
very
this
temporary
that
you
see
today.
A
And
I'm
not
opposed
to
it,
we
all
live
and
learn.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
putting
barriers
in
front
of
moving
forward
that
we're
just
really
clear
on
what
the
past
precedent
was
and
why
those
barriers
are
necessary
today,
so
that's
it
for
my
comment.
I
would
request
after
the
last
meeting
where
the
item
spent
a
lot,
we
had
so
much
staff
time
to
move
forward
and
failed.
A
I
would
request
that
we
have
a
motion
tonight
to
see
it
who's
in
support
of
it
to
move
forward
and
confirm
with
the
city
manager
that
three
votes
would
be
sufficient.
F
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
add
on
to
your
recollection
what
happened
and
when
the
current
landscaping
was
put
in
place.
That
was
not
a
funded
project
and
that
was
done
by
the
park
and
rec
department
independently.
They
didn't
come
to
council
for
funding,
they
used
available
materials
and
and
did
their
own
improvement.
So
yeah
there
was,
there
was
no
plan
put
in
place,
but
it
was,
it
wasn't
funded
either,
and
so
it
was
basically
just
an
improvement.
D
F
C
M
Remember
hamilton,
so
I
I
am
prepared
to
make
a
motion
as
the
vice
mayor
suggested,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
my
colleagues
don't
have
additional
questions
before
I
do
so.
C
The
only
thing
I'm
going
to
say
is:
if
it's
going
to
be
emotion,
then
it
needs
to
be
all-encompassing
from
all
to
encompass
everything.
We've
talked
about
because
it's
very
easy.
I
think
I
got
it
yeah.
I
think
I
have
it.
I
would
just
like
to
comment.
I
would
like
it
to
be
inclusive
rather
than
because
the
direction
is
conceptual
plan
and
funding
sources.
C
That's
what
it's
the
directions
asking.
What
I'm
saying
is
to
be
inclusive
to
all
of
the
other
items.
So
anyway,
I
do
have
council
member
salazar's
hand
up.
Is
that
okay
and
then
I'll
come
right
back
to
you,
mr
hamilton,
of
course.
Okay,
thanks
house
member
salazar.
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you,
mr
hamilton,
so
I
think
everybody,
the
mayor,
said.
We
all
agree
that
this
the
design
that's
in
front
of
us
is
it's
a
beautiful
design.
I
don't
think
anyone
here
disagrees
that
this
could
be
a
plus
for
downtown
a
very
big
plus,
and
it's
definitely
a
beautiful
project
and
downtown
is
definitely
in
need
of
a
shot
in
the
arm
to
get
things
rolling.
F
But
I
still
have
a
lot
of
concerns
about
how
we
got
here
and
how
we're
prioritizing,
and
so
I
won't
be
supporting
it,
but
not
because
I
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea.
I
won't
be
supporting
it
because
I
feel
that
it
was
initially
brought
to
us
as
a
very
low-cost
thing
and
it
was
allowed
to
slide
into
something
dramatically
different
and
the
scope
creep
was
just
all
over
this
and
I
don't
think
that's
a
good
way
for
us
to
approach
projects
in
the
city.
F
I
also
have
some
concerns
and-
and
I
hope
mr
hamilton
and
mr
medina
don't
take
this
the
wrong
way,
because
I
know
you
guys
have
done
a
lot
of
work
in
this
downtown
thing,
but
the
initial
scope,
the
way
I
remember
it
for
the
downtown
committee-
was
to
be
a
communication
platform
between
the
council
and
the
downtown
merchants,
and
it's
evolved
into
something
completely
different.
F
And
if
it's
an
ad
hoc
committee,
that
committee
really
needs
to
stay
focused
on
what
its
initial
focus
was
and
if
it's
going
to
evolve
into
something
else
and
become
a
standing
committee,
then
those
meetings,
those
conversations
need
to
be
agendized
and
advertised
to
the
public
and
public
needs
to
have
access
to
those
discussions,
and
especially
when
we're
talking
about
planning
for
large
expenditures
of
money.
I
think
that
would
be
very
important
for
the
public
to
participate
in
along
the
way.
F
So
those
are
my
comments,
and
I
I
know
this
has
the
votes
to
move
forward.
I
won't
be
supporting
it
for
my
own
reasons,
but
I
I
hope
that
it,
you
know
as
it
moves
forward,
that
it
bears
fruit.
I
also
wanted
to
comment
that
I
don't
agree
with
using
the
community
foundation
is
our
slush
fund.
F
They
have
a
lot
of
things
that
that
they
need
to
focus
on
it's
not
outside
of
their
charter.
To
do
this,
I
know
it's
within
their
mission
statement
to
support
public
facilities,
and
this
is
a
public
facility,
but
you
know
when
we're
also
relying
on
them
to
help
struggling
businesses
and
to
help
our
residents
that
have
food
insecurities
and
addressing
all
of
those
very
community-focused
efforts.
F
Then
I
am
not
comfortable
with
the
city
also
putting
their
hand
out
and
and
taking
taking
those
funds
out
of
that
circulation
because
their
budget
is
already
set,
and
so,
if
we
use
it,
that
means
they
don't
use
it
for
something
else,
and
also
my
thoughts
on
what
we
do
with
artichoke
joe's
money.
F
I
agree
that
a
portion
of
it
should
probably
be
spent
downtown,
but
it
is
general
fund
money
and
that
we
shouldn't
start
creating
policies
that
say
that
we
can't
use
those
general
fund
dollars
where
they're
needed
historically
downtown
has
not
been
a
big
contributor
to
the
general
fund.
Yet
we
haven't
taken
funds
that
are
generated,
say
in
you
know,
other
retail
areas
of
the
city,
tan
fran
bay
hill.
Those
dollars
don't
stay
there,
they
they
benefit
the
entire
city,
and
I
think
we
need
to
keep
that
in
perspective.
F
C
Thank
you
and
mr
hamel
councilmember
hamilton.
If
I
may
just
make
my
statement.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it.
I
I
am
going
to
go
ahead
and
support
this
and
I'm
going
to
support
it
because
it's
giving
direction
for
the
concept.
I
think
we
all
agree.
C
So
that's
off
it's
just
about
the
potential
funding
sources
and
the
other
questions
that
that
have
been
raised
and
that's
what
I
will
wait
to
hear
the
final
answer,
because
a
drawing
is
one
thing
and
everything
out
there:
the
dollars
that
we've
asked
about
then
and
now
and
all
of
those
particular
things,
because
the
business
plan
didn't
exist
to
a
temporary
thing
that
you
know
didn't
come
for
resources.
C
M
Okay,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
direct
staff
to
continue
with
developing
the
centennial
park
design
plan
presented
tonight
to
work
with
the
community
foundation
and
other
partners
to
identify
potential
funding
sources
for
this
project
and
to
bring
estimates
for
ongoing
maintenance
costs
for
the
plaza,
both
in
its
current
in
the
current
state
and
in
the
proposed
future
state.
Once
the
design
has
been
progressed
enough
to
make
such
an
estimate
feasible.
F
C
D
Good
evening,
city,
council,
javon,
brogan
city
manager,
I'll
give
a
quick
introduction
to
the
item
that
is
before
you
tonight
and
then
I'll
turn
the
presentation
over
to
scott
hannon
from
r3
to
supportive
city
with
this
project.
So
if
we
can
bring
up
the
background
slide,
it's
important
to
note
that
the
city
of
san
bruno,
like
many
cities,
has
a
franchise
agreement
with
a
private
hauler
to
haul
the
city's
waste.
It's
called
the
integrated
waste
management
franchise
agreement
and
that
franchise
agreement
is
currently
with
recology
san
bruno
recology.
D
San
bruno
has
had
that
franchise
agreement
in
various
forms
since
july
1,
20
1998
and
the
current
agreement
expires
june.
30
2024.
also
important
to
note
that
this
year
the
city
will
need
to
renegotiate
or
to
negotiate
adjustments
to
that
franchise
agreement.
For
various
reasons.
One.
D
As
the
city
council
knows,
the
current
agreement
provides
for
a
detailed
rate
review
every
three
years
and
that
third
year
is
this
year,
but
as
a
consultant,
we'll
we'll
talk
about
recology
earlier
this
year
submitted
a
29
rate
increase
consistent
with
that
the
current
franchise
agreement-
and
so
I
think
the
path
that
we
have
set
on
has
been
very
fortunate,
because
I,
I
think,
there's
a
plan
that
may
prevent
that
29
rate
increase.
D
In
addition,
it
is
important
for
the
city
to
negotiate
with
ecology
to
address
implications
and
potential
additional
costs
and
complying
with
senate
bill.
1383.
We'll
talk
significantly
about
that.
The
city
council
has
had
a
few
study
sessions
in
21
2021
on
that,
as
well.
Just
as
a
high
level
senate
bill,
1383
provides
for
enhanced
organic
recovery.
State
mandated
organic
recovery
as
well
as
edible
food
recovery,
and
so
all
cities
across
california
are
certainly
dealing
with
the
implications
and
the
unfunded
state
mandated
costs
of
senate
bill
1383
and
we're
no
different.
D
In
addition,
as
the
city
council
and
I
think
the
community
knows,
we
entered
into
a
pilot
program
with
barbara
college's
sam
bruno
for
an
abandoned
waste
program.
We've
certainly
saw
a
uptick
in
abandoned
waste
throughout
the
city
and
during
the
pandemic,
partnered
with
recall,
ecology
on
a
pilot
program
that
is
actually
showing
significant
dividends
and
getting
those
illegally
dumped
items
off
the
city
streets
in
short
order.
D
In
addition,
a
contract
performance
review
was
requested
by
the
stage
by
a
member
of
the
city
council
in
regard
to
the
few
provisions
of
the
contract.
So
we
wanted
to
undertake
that
as
well,
and
this
is
really
important
because,
with
the
current
franchise
agreement
expiring
in
2024,
it
is
important
to
undertake
that
process
expeditiously,
and
so
the
city
council
on
november
9th
really
had
a
robust
discussion
next
bullet
important
to
note
that
the
city
has
a
number
of
options.
D
You
need
about
a
year
to
give
notice
to
your
current
hauler
if
you
are
changing
your
from
your
current
hauler,
and
it's
also
lastly,
last
but
important
to
note
that
any
integrated
waste
management
services
require
significant
upfront
capital
investments,
and
so
it's
really
better
to
begin
the
negotiation,
slash
procurement
process
early,
and
so
that's
really
what
we
talked
about
on
november
9th
and
just
on
the
last
slide
in
this
introduction.
D
The
city
really
has
two
options
for
negotiating
the
next
phase
of
your
waste
franchise
option.
One
is
to
initiate
contract
negotiations
with
workology
san
bruno
for
a
new
franchise
agreement
to
include
that
process
to
include
a
few
things.
One
is
sp
1383
compliance,
two
achieve
continuation
of
what
has
been
a
very
successful
abandoned
waste
program.
D
Three
we
discussed
potentially
obtaining
a
quote
for
additional
services
and
we'll
talk
about
those
tonight.
One
is
street
sweeping
and
the
other
item
is
catch
basin
cleaning.
D
The
last
item
is
a
performance
review
that
was
undertaken
as
via
a
desk
audit,
as
well
as
an
analysis
of
recology
school
program
requirements.
D
The
second
option
is
really
to
initiate
renegotiation
conversations,
but
only
for
the
two-year
period
from
22
through
20
through
june
30th
and
24,
and
really
have
that
only
include
the
detailed
rate
review,
sv1383
compliance,
continuation
of
the
abandoned
waste
program
for
the
next
two
years,
and
then
the
performance
review,
and
so
the
difference
between
option.
One
and
option
two
is
that
option.
One
is
for
a
new
extended
franchise
agreement
to
go
for
a
term
to
be
determined
and
option.
D
Two
really
would
mean
next
bullet
that
if
the
city
council
chose
option,
two,
you
would
be
launching
an
rfp
process,
and
so
you
would
undertake
a
very
short
negotiation
process,
but
by
launching
an
rfp
process,
and
what
we
committed
to
the
city
council
in
november
is
that
we
would
return
with
you
with
a
new
franchise
agreement,
but
also
leave
you
with
the
option
to
launch
an
rfp
process.
D
Should
you
desire
to
do
so,
and
so
we've
concluded
that
and
scott
hannon
from
r3
is
here
to
present
the
details
in
a
study
session
of
that
of
the
key
terms
in
the
new
franchise
agreement.
Should
the
city
council
choose
to
go
that
way,
and
so
you
did
choose
option
one.
The
rfp
process
is
still
available
to
you
and
scott.
D
We'll
talk
a
lot
about
the
29
rate
increase
that
is
due
to
ecology
under
the
current
franchise
agreement
option
one
and
a
new
franchise
agreement
does
avoid
that,
and
so
let's
get
into
the
specifics
now
scott.
Will
you
share
your
presentation
and
take
us
through
the
discussion?
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
jovan
mayor
members
of
the
city
council.
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
I'm
scott
hannon
senior
vice
president
with
r3
and
I'll.
Take
you
through
this
presentation,
since
it
was
in
your
packet
I'll,
go
relatively
quickly
but
feel
free
to
jump
in
if
I'm
either
skipping
over
something
or
going
too
fast.
L
What
I'd
like
to
cover
is
a
little
background
on
the
legislation
that
the
city
manager
alluded
to.
That's
driving
a
lot
of
the
changes
that
we're
seeing
throughout
the
state
for
local
agencies
provide
some
background
as
to
how
we
got
here
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
a
proposed
new
agreement
would
look
like
talk
about
the
rate
impacts
depending
on
the
services
and
what
you
do
going
forward
and
then
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
next
steps.
L
What's
driving
some
of
this
and
it
goes
all
the
way
back
to
1989
when
the
state
passed
the
integrated
waste
management
act,
8939,
which
required
all
cities
to
significantly
reduce
the
amount
of
waste
they
dispose
of
up
till
today
with
the
newest
piece
of
legislation,
sp
1383,
which
really
goes
after
organics,
and
not
just
green
waste,
but
all
types
of
organics,
and
specifically
for
commercial
businesses,
more
food
waste,
restaurant
waste
and
also
food
recovery,
which
is
something
that's
not
directly
part
of
this
franchise.
But
it's
something
that
will
be
required
of
all
cities.
L
In
sb
1383,
it
is
a
statewide
mandate
and
it
builds
on
prior
legislation
which,
and
it
requires
all
generators
to
be
provided.
Organic
waste
recycling
services
and
san
bruno
has
actually
been
ahead
of
the
curve
compared
to
many
cities
in
the
state,
and
that
most
of
this
has
already
been
happening,
and
san
bruno
is
largely
in
compliance.
L
But
it's
important
to
bring
up.
As
I
know,
council
members
love
to
hear
that,
while
we
may
agree
with
the
goals
of
the
legislation,
it
is
still
a
state
unfunded
mandate
and
as
we
go
through
the
proposal-
and
we
talk
about
some
other
services,
you'll
see
that
that
term
comes
up
a
few
times
and
some
of
the
services
that
the
staff
is
looking
to
add
to
the
new
franchise
agreement,
go
to
other
unfunded
mandates
and
a
way
to
possibly
create
more
funding
opportunities.
L
In
terms
of
the
city
responsibilities,
you're
responsible
for
passing
ordinances,
which
you've
done
the
green
text
are
things
that
recology
is
already
doing
for
you
or
will
be
doing
if
you
go
forward
with
the
new
franchise
agreement.
They're
doing
organic
waste
collection
services
to
residents
and
businesses.
L
Two
big
pieces
that
are
sort
of
buried
in
most
franchise
agreements
are
compliance
and
enforcement
and
records.
The
new
franchise
agreement
to
be
consistent
with
state
law
will
have
much
more
enhanced
record-keeping
and
reporting,
and
many
more
enforcement
tools
to
essentially
force
businesses
and
residents,
who
are
either
non-complying
to
comply
as
much
as
cities
would
probably
not
have
to
do
enforcement,
and
hopefully
that's
not
the
case.
There
is
much
more
of
a
stick
approach
going
forward
than
there
has
been
in
the
past.
L
The
current
agreement
began
in
the
middle
of
98
and
will
expire
on
june
30th
2024
and
the
best
that
we
can
tell
from
the
feedback
we've
gotten
so
far,
both
in
san
bruno
and
where
other
cities
that
recology
serves
people
and
customers
are
generally
happy
with
the
services
they
provide
and
their
commitment
to
meeting
the
state
goals,
as
was
already
mentioned,
pursuant
to
the
contract
recology
submitted
earlier
in
the
year
for
a
29
rate
increase
as
an
alternate
as
you
as
you've
already
heard.
The
city
in
which
I
think
was
you
know
very
smart.
L
In
light
of
the
new
services,
the
legislation
and
the
pending
rate
increase
asked
recology
for
a
proposal
for
new
services
and
a
new
agreement
rather
than
seek
competitive
proposals.
At
this
time,
our
firm
was
engaged
to
assist
in
the
looking
at
the
rate
adjustment
request,
looking
at
company
operations
and
negotiate
and
help
the
city
negotiate
a
new
agreement.
L
L
So
that's
what
drove
the
significant
increase
so
based
on
all
of
that
and
our
discussions
with
staff.
The
best
course
of
action
was
to
negotiate
first
with
recology,
with
the
possibility
of
going
out
for
bid
in
the
future.
L
We
have
looked
at
recollege's
proposed
new
services,
which
are
a
significant
expansion
to
what
you
currently
have
and
other
enhancements
and
services,
some
of
which
were
requested
by
the
city
and
I'll
talk
more
about
this
in
towards
the
end
of
the
proposal.
But
given
the
current
climate,
the
current
economics,
it's
certainly
no
guarantee
that
if
the
city
would
go
out
to
bid,
you
would
do
better.
L
L
There
seems
to
be
much
more
interest
in
renegotiating
than
going
out
to
bid
compared
to
what
we've
seen
in
the
future,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
say
that
recology
really
does
want
to
stay
in
san
bruno.
L
So
what
we
would
bring
back
to
you,
if
that
was
the
direction
of
the
council,
is
a
new
agreement
with
a
10-year
term
and
two
five-year
options.
That
would
be
at
the
discretion
of
the
city.
The
current
services
would
continue
and
there
are
detailed
specifications
around
the
company's
performance
in
order
to
be
eligible
for
either
of
the
extensions.
L
They
would
still
be
your
exclusive
provider
in
san
bruno,
which
is
the
norm
in
northern
california.
You
would
be
in
compliance
with
with
sb
1383,
for
all
of
these
reasons
outlined
here
that
are
required
under
the
current
legislation,
many
of
which
you
are
already
all
recyclables
and
any
additional
materials
would
be
collected
by
the
company.
L
The
agreement
allows
for
additional
charges
and
additional
remediation
for
scattered
materials,
materials
that
are
around
the
carts
or
left
as
they
were
put
out.
I
would
also
point
out,
based
on
the
comments
were
received,
we
had
further
conversations
with
ecology
and
for
specific
customers
that
may
be
having
problems
with
litter
because
of
wind
or
something
to
do
with
the
location
of
the
carts.
L
Recology
has
agreed
to
go
out
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
see
if
they
can
resolve
the
issues
either
through
a
different
cart
placement,
different
carts
or
adding
some
sort
of
locking
mechanism
on
the
carts.
That's
not
something
they
want
to
do
system-wide
if
it's
unnecessary,
because
it
would
increase
costs,
upfront
and
ongoing
costs.
But
if
there
are
places
that
it's
an
ongoing
problem
that
we
have,
they
have
given
their
word
that
they
would
sit
down
with
the
property
owners
and
try
to
work
it
out.
L
L
In
other
cities,
it
could
take
about
600,
000
or
more
dollars
out
of
the
city's
budget
and
put
it
into
the
company's
budget,
which
obviously
goes
to
the
ratepayers,
but
it
would
also
free
up
an
additional
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
city's
stormwater
program,
which
I
believe
is
significantly
upside
down,
and
they
are
under
the
same
similar
state
mandates
that
are
also
unfunded,
with
significant
permanent
hurdles,
which
I'm
sure
you've
heard
about
over
the
last
few
years.
L
Additional
things
in
the
new
agreement
would
be
a
significantly
expanded
bulky
goods
pickup
for
multi,
largely
for
multi-family,
and
there
would
be
a
dedicated
route
to
deal
with
these
kind
of
issues
such
as
mattresses,
furniture
appliances
that
get
set
out.
Unlike
now,
where
it's
on
call
and
as
the
company
can
get
to
it,
there
would
be
a
dedicated
employees
and
truck
to
handle
this
handle
this
type
of
waste.
As
soon
as
it
happened,
service
would
continue
for
the
city.
L
L
Additionally,
at
the
request
of
the
city,
the
company
has
submitted
as
part
of
its
proposal
to
take
over
customer
billing
and
that's
something
that
the
city
has
done
for
years
and
I
believe,
does
for
four
accounting:
solid
waste.
Four
different
services.
L
It
is
very
common
for
the
garbage
companies
to
handle
billing
for
their
clients
in
terms
of
schools,
in
addition
to
enhanced
education
and
more
bodies
to
help
recology
will
be
offering
the
district
rates
at
80
percent
of
the
current
rate,
in
order
to
hopefully
free
up
funds
that
the
district
can
use
for
additional
diversion
programs
within
the
schools.
L
That
is
up
as
as
best
we
can
tell
that
is
up
to
the
school
district,
but
they
are
doing
what
they
can
to
try
to
free
up
more
funds
to
help,
because
we
all
know
school
districts
often
have
trouble
finding
funds
for
things
like
this.
L
L
L
L
Currently,
inflation
is
running
between
six
and
seven
percent,
so
the
proposed
company
cost
increases
related
to
their
base.
Services
are
running
less
than
what
inflation
is
currently
running
at
so,
as
you
can
see
the
rest
of
the
increases
and
how
they're
spread
out
and
there's
some
ability
to
start
sooner,
some
of
these,
as
for
new
services
that
are
either
to
get
in
compliance
or
they
were
requested
by
the
city
when
you
split
it
between
residential
and
commercial
you're.
L
L
So
the
increases
are
for
the
typical
32.
Gallon
cart
would
be
two
dollars
a
dollar
and
just
under
three
dollars.
If
all
the
services
were
on
the
table,
the
bottom
line
is:
if
the
29
application
was
approved,
you
would
have
that
become
the
new
base
and
then
using
numbers
based
on
current
levels
of
inflation.
L
You
would
see
where
the
rates
would
likely
wind
up
if
you
did
not
go
forward
with
a
new
proposal.
Additionally,
if
you
decide
to
go
out
to
bid,
the
base
rates
would
be
these
new
rates
which
would
likely
force
the
responses
up
higher
than
they
would
otherwise
be.
So
it's
just
something
to
think
about,
and
it's
unfortunate
that
the
contract
worked
that
way
at
the
end,
but
it
is
like
I
said
it
is
consistent
with
the
methodology.
L
We
believe
some
of
these
blue
bars
are
going
to
go
up
even
higher,
because
many
of
the
cities
are
going
through
the
same
thing
you
are,
but
we
we
just
don't
want
to
guess.
So.
We
went
with
just
smaller
inflationary
numbers
in
terms
of
commercial,
where
you
saw
that
big
rate,
bigger
rate
increase
up
front
commercial
rates
would
go
above
the
red
line,
so
you'd
be
a
little
bit
higher
than
the
norm
or
the
average,
but
you
would
still
be
at
or
below
four
or
five
other
cities
in
the
county.
L
Here,
you
typically
have
two,
what's
called
index
rate
year,
adjustments
that
are
tied
to
inflation
and
then
a
detailed
cost-based
rate
year
to
true
up
and
make
sure
things
don't
get
out
of
line
every
third
year
and
that's
relatively
consistent
with
other
cities
around
you.
L
Other
reasons
and
you
there,
I
know
there
are
ecology
people
here
who
can
tell
you
this
themselves,
but
what
they've
told
us
that
they
would
really
want
you
to
consider.
L
Is
they
provided
uninterrupted
service
during
the
pandemic
and
they
did
not
ask
for
any
rate
increases,
as
other
cities
got
asked
by
their
haulers,
they
brought
you
community
drop-off
day
and
have
not
yet
asked
for
any
cost
impact
or
any
rate
increase
for
that
they've
done,
they've
increased
their
effort,
let's
say
on
improving
contamination
rates
in
residential
recycling
that
converts
to
dollars
for
the
ratepayers,
because
your
materials
are
more
valuable.
L
They've
tried
to
increase
collection
of
abandoned
waste
and
they've
been
doing
a
pilot
since
october
of
21.,
the
company
is
employee
owned
and
they
feel
they
have
a
real
presence
in
san
bruno,
and
that
would
be
different
if
you
brought
in
another
company,
they
were.
They
got
ahead
of
the
curve
and
then
and
put
these
services
and
put
most
of
these
programs
in
place
before
that
they
were
mandated
by
the
state.
And
finally,
they
are
regular
sponsors
and
participants
in
many
of
your
community
activities.
L
L
It
has
all
the
most
modern
performance
measures,
liquidated
damage,
performance
reviews
in
the
new
agreement
based
on
everything
we've
seen
up
and
down
california,
and
hopefully,
protection
from
future
raid
spikes.
It
also
would
avoid
a
transition
to
a
new
provider
which
sometimes
goes
reasonably
well
other
times.
It
can
be
disruptive.
L
You
will
likely
have
new
carts,
new
trucks,
new
website,
new
customer
service
numbers,
and
so
most
cities
give
a
lot
of
thought
before
they
go
through
a
transition
like
that,
if
they
think
they're
getting
the
service,
they
hope
for
and
their
rates
are
competitive,
again
negotiate
or
go
out
to
bid
it's
difficult
to
compare
city
to
city
and
the
current
economic
conditions
are
leading
to
increases
in
both
competitive
bids
negotiations
and
current
rate
settings.
L
L
The
agreement
would
be
effective
on
the
first
and
then
you
would
have
the
rate
increases
we
showed
in
23
and
24
or,
conversely,
the
council
could
direct
staff
to
begin
a
competitive
process.
L
So
with
that
again,
I
want
to
thank
you,
hopefully
that
didn't
take
too
long
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
comments,
and
also,
as
I
mentioned,
I
know
the
ecology
staff
is
here
who
may
have
some
better
insight
on
certain
things
than
I
do.
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
and
with
that
what
I
will
do
is
turn
it
to
my
colleagues.
If
you
can
stop
sharing
the
screen,
please
turn
it
to
my
colleagues,
understanding
that
we
do
have
members
of
the
public
that
may
want
to
speak.
They've
been
patient,
so
I
want
to
be
mindful
as
well
what
I
am
going
to
ask
of
my
colleagues
that
as
chair
I'm
going
to
have
direct
all
questions
to
the
city
manager
and
the
city
manager
can
determine
whom
is
best
to
address
that
question.
F
Just
one
minor
question
I
didn't
notice
this
before,
but
as
we
as
we're
going
through
the
presentation,
I
noticed
that
one
of
the
changes
that's
being
proposed
is
on
the
interim
years.
We
we've
always
had
a
practice
of
using
80
of
the
cpi
and
in
that
table
it
shows
that
now
we're
just
going
to
use
cpi
and
not
the
80
of
cpi,
and
I'm
wondering
what
drove
that
particular
change
in
the
calculation
sure.
D
Thank
you,
councilmember,
salazar.
Through
the
mayor.
I
want
to
ask
scott
hannon
to
answer
that
question.
But
scott
you
did
a
great
job
on
the
presentation,
but
you
just
launched
right
into
it.
Can
you
give
a
quick
overview
of
r3
and
the
service
that
you
guys
provide
for
the
council
and
the
public.
L
Sure
I
apologize
for
that,
our
three
we
work
exclusively
for
public
agencies
and
we're
made
up
of
a
mix
of
solid
waste
professionals,
public
agency
professionals,
I've
been
both
a
city
manager
and
a
solid
waste
consultant,
and
I've
worked
for
cities
in
the
solid
waste
departments.
L
So
I
have
about
between
a
little
over
30
years
of
experience
in
and
around
this
r3
is
been
around
for
about
30
years
and
again
is
working
with
most
cities
in
northern
california,
many
cities
in
southern
california
and
who
are
in
similar
situations.
Our
practice
is
basically
divided
between
program
planning,
financial
reviews
and
operational
reviews
and
then
franchise
procurements
and
negotiations.
L
So,
if
that's,
if
there's
any
questions-
or
I
can
be
more
specific-
feel
free
to
ask
in
terms
of
the
inflation,
the
indexed
years
also
have
a
five
percent
cap
and
based
on
our
discussions
with
the
company
and
how
the
indices
were
changed
and
what
we're
seeing
in
other
places,
the
company
proposed
the
full
index
and
we
didn't
think
it
was
unreasonable
for
them
to
recover
their
costs.
As
long
as
the
detailed
methodology
was
still
in
place
again.
We're
changing
from
multiple
indices
to
one,
so
I
don't
know
it's
it's
partly
negotiable.
C
Okay-
and
I
was
going
to
ask
the
public
as
we're
just
looking
for
other
council
questions
on
the
presentation,
if
you
could
put
up
your
virtual
hand
if
you're
wishing
to
speak
tonight
on
this
topic,
so
we
can
just
get
you
in
the
queue
and
then
transition
over
to
public
comment
quickly.
Councilmember
medina.
E
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
A
quick
question
were
the
the
cleanups,
the
the
drop-off
cleanups.
Are
they
going
to
continue
with
this
contract?
Just
wanted
some
clarity
on
that
and
how
many,
how
many
were
they
going
to
have
a
year.
L
E
Understood
and
I'm
sorry,
I
was
losing
you
on
the
audio
there.
So
so
in
the
last
couple
years
we've
had
these
drop-offs
and
where
people
can
take
additional
loads
of
debris
or
whatever
it
may
be,
are
those
included
in
this
contract
or
how
is
that.
C
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
am
what
I
was
saying
for
members
of
the
public.
This
is
the
opportunity
that
you're
going
to
get
to
speak
once
we
go
through
the
public
comments.
We
will
not
be
going
back,
it'll
go
back
to
council
and
I
wanted
to
just
dive
in
a
little
bit
on
the
the
the
discount
for
the
school
district,
but
that's
just
trying
to
get
more
clarity.
C
G
Mayor
medina
and
council
members
recology
san
bruno
provides
a
reliable
service
at
a
fair
price.
They
are
very
dedicated
to
civic
engagement
from
community
cleanups,
to
compost,
giveaway
and
endless
support
for
the
schools
and
community.
They
are
not
only
our
reliable
trash
collector,
they
are
a
community
partner.
B
Next
speaker
is
jeremy,
sarnecki
jeremy,
whenever
you're
ready,
you
may
begin
hey
guys.
What's
going
on
jeremy
sarnicki
here
candidate
for
san
bruno
city,
council
district
one,
you
know
I
can
sound
pretty
smart
at
times
when
I
prepare
my
statements
and
as
you
are
aware,
I
like
to
kind
of
do
my
own
thing
during
the
public
comment,
portions
of
these
meetings
and
I'll
keep
this
one
really
short.
So
I
was
just
watching
this
entire
presentation,
with
my
mom
thinking
out
loud
between
ourselves.
B
That
looks
like
san
bruno
is
getting
boned
pretty
hard
on
this
one
30
percent
increase,
which
I
can
attribute
somewhat
to
this
sb
1383.
B
I
think
recology
is
a
community
partner,
but
it
really
comes
down
to
a
confluence
of
factors.
It
appears
you
know
we're
looking
at
these
cpi
indexes
that
are
highly
inflated
due
to
the
current
realities
we're
facing-
and
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
how
to
sell
this
to
the
city
and
its
residents
really
because
they're
looking
at
30
increase,
maybe
you
can
talk
to
ecology,
throwing
in
a
third
community
pickup
days
just
to
take
the
pain
off
this
one.
B
All
I
have
to
say,
besides
you
know
this
paul
penske
guy,
we
might
not
see
eye
to
eye
on
everything,
but
I
really
like
what
he
has
to
say.
I
think
he's
made
his
comments
clear
on
this
in
the
past.
Thank
you.
Bye.
B
Next
speaker
is
trish
of
teamsters856
trish.
Whenever
you're
ready,
you
may
begin
hi.
Thank
you
mayor
and
council.
This
is
trish
with
teamsters856
political
director
on.
B
We
do
oppose
outsourcing
our
work
for
the
street
cleaners
and
putting
that
back
onto
the
tech,
the
rate
payers
to
pay
for
that
our
street
cleaner
does
a
great
job
and
he's
committed
to
that
job,
and
we
hope
that
you
reconsider
doing
that
in
this
proposal.
It
was
not
brought
up
to
us
and
we
are
very
concerned
about
it.
Thank
you.
B
Mr
sandoval,
whenever
you're
ready,
you
may
begin
yes
good
evening,
mayor
council,
members
and
guests,
my
name
is
robert
sandoval
and
I'm
the
business
representative
of
teamsters
local
350..
B
While
the
vast
majority
of
us
stayed
in
the
comfort
of
our
homes
and
worked
remotely,
I
am
glad
to
say
that
our
two
organizations,
locally
50
and
ricology
san
bruno,
who,
who
by
nature
are
typically
on
opposite
ends,
have
actually
built
a
strong
relationship
of
collaboration
to
promote
the
well-being
and
interest
of
our
members,
the
workers
and,
by
extension
of
the
community.
B
And
I
want
to
commend
general
manager
kirsten
pinocchi
for
that
by
potentially
taking
this
to
work
away
from
her
college
of
san
bruno.
You
wouldn't
be
impacting
just
this
business.
You
would
also
be
impacting
the
livelihoods
of
my
members
and
their
families,
and
I
say
this
because
recology
san
bruno
provide,
what's
called
an
esop
employee
stock
ownership
plan
that
our
members
have
employee
owners,
and
mr
hannon
refer
to
this
in
his
presentation.
B
B
B
K
Thank
you
very
much
hey.
I
think
recology's
done
a
great
job
for
us
near
where
we
live
and
and
that
they're
community
partners,
and
that
it
makes
sense
if
we
come
to
a
good
deal
that
we
should
stay
with
the
stable
service.
I
also
have
concern
for
the
job
of
our
street
sweeper
in
san
bruno.
K
K
My
biggest
concern
is
that,
in
listening
to
this
presentation
from
r3,
it's
clear
that
we
heard
the
terms
of
the
deal
as
it's
being
recommended
to
us
now
with
very
glowing
terms
that
it's
a
good
deal
and
we
should
take
it.
I
would
ask
that
our
city
council
members,
when
you
ask
your
next
questions
in
your
next
comments,
that
you
talked
and
ask
what
negotiations
have
occurred
so
far.
K
What
areas
have
they
given
back
on
so
far
and
what
areas
are
there
the
potential
to
negotiate
down
somewhat,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
our
citizens
are
going
to
find
that
continuing
rate
increases
up
to
25
to
30
percent
are
going
to
be
hard
and
and
difficult
to
swallow.
So
that's
all
my
comments.
C
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
This
is
going
to
be
the
last
call
for
anybody
from
the
public
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
topic.
Let's
see
if
there's
any
more
hands
that
go
up,
if
not
we're
going
to
bring
it
back
to
the
council
and
then
have
a
final
discussion
seeing
no
hands
at
this
time.
We
will
go
ahead
and
close
that
portion
of
public
comment
and
bring
it
back
to
council
for
their
comments
and
our
questions.
A
Thank
you
medina,
so
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
in
reading
the
packet
there's,
an
area
that
I
think
is
really
big.
That
was
not
mentioned,
which
is
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
around
recollege
in
their
contract
a
couple
maybe
two
years
ago,
and
what
we
had
been
informed
of
was
that
when
the
contract
was
going
to
end,
there
would
be
a
procurement
process
and
that
procurement
process
would
cost
approximately
a
half
million
dollars.
A
And
so
I
can't
speak
for
the
rest
of
the
council
members,
but
just
being
someone
who
believes
in
transparency
in
the
public
bidding
process,
I
do
want
to
say
that
that
conversation
and
that
information,
that
this
would
cost
a
half
a
million
dollars
that
the
city
really
doesn't
have
was
what
prompted
at
least
my
support
of
looking
into
a
possible
renegotiation.
A
That
would
be
better
for
ratepayers
than
going
through
the
entire
bidding
process.
So
I
think
it's
an
important
fact
to
ensure
that
the
public
is
aware
of
because
the
cost
of
a
procurement
for
garbage
is
incredibly
high.
The
second
area
I
just
want
to.
I
just
want
to
comment
on
some
of
the
comments
we
got
that
you
know
one
of
the
first
commenters
mentioned
around
focusing
on
water
rates
and
I'm
actually
really
proud
to
be
part
of
this
council
that
actually
stopped
the
water
rate
increases.
A
It's
been
two
years
now
after
over
a
decade
of
increases
that
this
council
stopped
the
water
increases.
So
that
is
something
that
we
take
very
seriously,
and
this
is
something
that
we're
taking
seriously
as
well.
I
did
want
to
just
clarify
a
comment
that
was
made
and
maybe
that
actually
the
city
manager
can
hopefully
clarify
it.
This
comment
around
the
30
percent.
Can
you
just
clarify
where
that
number
is
coming
from.
D
Please
sure
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Vice
mayor
mason,
I
did
notice
that
there
were
a
number
of
public
comments
on
that
30
at
29.
That
I
think,
are
there's
a
nuance
that
is
important
to
highlight
here.
The
city
has
a
existing
franchise
agreement
with
vertology.
D
That
agreement
provides
a
three-year
detailed
review
that
needs
to
happen
in
22..
Under
that
current
agreement,
their
ecology
submitted
a
29
rate
increase.
D
That
increase
was
reviewed
by
the
city's
consultant
and
confirmed
to
be
valid
and
so
per
the
current
contract.
If
the
city
council
does
nothing
and
simply
processes,
the
three-year
rate
increase,
you
can
expect
rates
to
increase
by
approximately
29.
D
This
process
is
a
potential
renegotiation
of
the
franchise
agreement
due
to
a
number
of
factors
that
we
talked
about
before
it
was
very
fortuitous,
and
I
think
good
that
the
city
council
authorized
that,
because
what
this
process
has
resulted
in
is
a
proposal
from
arcology
san
bruno.
That
will
have
the
increase
this
year
or
residential,
not
at
29,
but
instead
at
six
percent,
and
so
should
the
city
council
decide
to
go
forward
with
a
new
franchise
agreement
with
berkeley.
D
The
city
could
therefore
avoid
the
29
increase
and
the
increase
for
residential
will
be
6
and
the
increase
for
commercial
would
be
17.
The
number
that's
shown
on
the
chart
in
scott.
If
you
can
bring
up
the
new
program
rates
for
over
the
next
18
months,
it
would
be
a
6.2
increase
for
residential
and
a
16
point.
D
98
or
17
increase
for
commercial
this
chart
and
so
right
there
at
the
bottom.
You
see
the
the
rate
increase
as
of
january
1
2023
would
be
6.2
for
residential
and
16
or
roughly
17.
So
that's
a
lot
less
than
29
and
then
over
the
next
18
months.
D
There
would
be
a
3.6
percent
increase
in
july,
one
and
then
a
8.1
increase
in
24.,
and
so
it's
just
important
to
note
that
there
is
an
option
whereby
the
city
can't
avoid
that
29
rate
increase
and,
as
stated
before,
should
the
city
not
take
that
option?
D
What
will
happen
if
we
go
out
for
an
rfp
and
look
for
other
other
vendors
is
that
the
base
rates
will
have
increased
significantly
and
scott
if
you
can
bring
up
slide
17.
and
so
our
current
rate?
Let's
talk
about
a
32
gallon
total,
which
is
the
average
soldered
at
single
family
residence
has
right
now
that
cost
us
32.53
cents
per
month.
D
If
we
do
nothing,
that
will
be
a
29
increase,
so
that
would
increase
by
41
or
241
nearly
42,
and
then
we're
projecting
a
six
percent
and
a
four
percent
increase
over
the
next
two
years,
and
so
we
will
have
higher
rates
when
we
go
out
for
an
rfp,
and
so
this
process
has
actually
been
a
good
one.
It's
been
a
good
one.
That's
actually
resulted
in
significantly
reduced
rate
increases
that,
should
we
proceed
down
this
option
and
we
talked
about
the
path
for
that.
A
A
D
So
every
franchise
agreement
in
ours
would
be
no
different
has
to
go
through
a
state
mandated
prop
218
process.
Every
year
your
franchise
agreement
dictates
how
that
rate
increase
will
be
factored
in
in
the
out
years.
So
why
don't?
I
turn
it
over
to
scott
hannon
from
march
3
to
talk
about
if
there
were
any
calculations
on
a
10-year
lookout,
I
know
that
it
would
be
speculative
based
on
a
number
of
factors,
but
I'll
just
toss
it
to
you.
L
No,
I
mean
we
did
not
try
to
do.
We
did
not
do
as
part
of
this
a
10-year
model.
You
know
again
in
your
current
agreement.
In
the
10th
year,
you
were
seeing
two
to
three
percent.
You
know
very
much
very
moderate
increases
and
I
don't
think
anyone,
even
if
we
had
modeled
it
would
have
saw
anything
like
the
inflation
spikes
that
happened.
L
So
typically
we
don't
model
out
that
far
but
based
on
the
indices
and
the
because
you
have
the
cost
based
methodology.
L
I
mean
we
believe
that
you,
you
would
be
looking
at
increases
that
run
roughly
with
inflation,
maybe
even
less
like
the
numbers
that
the
company
has
submitted
as
part
of
the
proposal
are
running
under
inflation,
and
so
I
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
when
some
of
the
comments
were
around
the
29
versus
what
it's
remember,
the
six
percent
includes
the
additional
services,
not
just
the
the
base
versus
the
base.
So
it's
29
versus
the
companies
five
and
three.
L
A
Yeah
so
I
think,
since
it's
a
study
session,
I
would
just
request,
I
guess
maybe
even
of
legal
counsel.
What
are
the
parameters
that
we
can
set
within
the
contract
so
that
the
we're
within
the
law?
But
we
don't
see
a
spike
for
our
seniors,
who
are
on
fixed
income
for
our
working
class
community,
because
that
is
a
pretty
significant
spike.
So
that
would
be
one
one
question
that
would
be
great
to
answer
and
then
I
do
just
want
to
make
a
comment
on
both
856
and
350.
That
commented
tonight.
A
I
do
have
concerns
about
the
fact
that
it
was
raised
that
the
union
was
not
aware
of
this
as
a
potential
contracting
out
of
a
position,
so
we,
I
would
definitely
like
an
update
to
that
and
what
conversations
are
being
had
after
today
with
the
union,
and
I
would
also
just
appreciate
I
just
want
to
say.
I
appreciate
mr
sandoval's
comments
as
well,
because
I
have
heard
nothing
but
good
things
about
recology
as
a
employee-owned
company
and
it's
a
great
company
to
work
for
from
its
own
employees.
A
I
just
and
then
I
know,
there's
there's
other
council
members.
I
want
to
talk.
I
just
do
want
to
talk
about
the
schools
a
little
bit.
I
see
that
miss
pinocchio's
on,
and
so
I
did
have
a
question
about
the
80
on
the
school
district.
A
C
D
Depending
on
the
question,
I
may
not
have
the
answer,
so
I
I
I
would
toss
it
to
recology,
but
vice
mayor
mason.
Can
I
ask
for
a
little
bit
more
specificity.
You
said:
are
there
existing
conversations
or
a
contract
with
the
school
district.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
and
I
can
clarify
that
my
concern
is
that
if
there
are
existing
negotiations
with
the
school
district,
that
those
negotiations
are
being
offered
as
a
give
to
our
negotiation
and
they're
completely
separate
negotiations,
and-
and
I
I
just
don't-
want
this
20
issue-
if
it's
being
discussed
with
the
school
district
already
to
be
part
of
our
agreement-
and
I
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
existing
provisions
around
the
school
district
and
just
my
disappointment.
There.
D
Sure
I'll
ask
miss
kristen
pinocchi
from
recology
to
respond.
J
Thank
you,
council,
member
vice
mayor
mason,
and
we
are
talk.
The
san
bernardino
park
school
district
about
initiating
a
new
contract.
What
we
had
in
place
were
agreements
that,
were
you,
know,
old
and
somewhat
outdated,
so
we
are
in
current
conversations
with
superintendent
and
and
the
cbo,
but
this
80
or
this
provision
of
this
contract
has
not
been
discussed
and
is
not
part
of
those
negotiations.
J
A
We
really
haven't
had
conclusion
or
closure
to
that.
This
was
a
24-year
contract.
There
was
supposed
to
be
a
fundraiser
every
year
for
the
schools.
There
has
yet
to
be
really
anything
except
the
year
that
I
brought
it
up
initially
around
a
fundraiser,
and
I
think
it's
pretty
significant.
Our
schools
don't
have
funds,
it
is,
and
it's
a
provision
of
the
contract.
D
Sure
so,
in
response
to
the
vice
mayor's
question,
I
think
it's
important
just
to
give
a
little
bit
more
background
for
those
members
of
the
public
that
may
be
new
to
the
conversation.
So
in
the
existing
franchise
agreement
there
are
community
outreach
requirements
for
recology,
as
well
as
there's
mention
of
a
cash
for
cans
program.
D
It
is
true
that
our
consultant
r3
in
reviewing
the
contract
did
review
the
sort
of
community
benefit
requirements
and
community
services
requirements
and
did
find
that
recology
wasn't
substantial
conformance
to
the
existing
franchise
agreement.
The
caveat
to
that
is
beaufort
ecology
and
our
consultant
confirmed
that
there
was
the
cash
for
cairns
program.
That
was
not
provided.
Recology
has
mentioned
to
the
city
council
on
a
number
of
occasions
that
they
were
open
to
offer
that
program,
but
there
was
not
significant
interest
from
the
schools
in
doing
so.
D
I
think
it's
true
that,
for
whatever
the
reason
that
fundraiser
was
not
held
in
schools
for
a
number
of
years,
scott,
I
see
you
have
turned
on
your
video
and
you
were
responsible
for
the
conversations
directly
and
the
performance
evaluation.
So
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
please
do.
L
That's
I
mean
so
I
agree
with
the
city
manager.
You
know
and
again
we
tried
to
focus
on
going
forward,
but
yes,
you're,
correct,
council
member.
A
Yeah-
and
I
have
it
in
front
of
me
just
for
members
of
the
public,
the
exact
languages,
the
contractor
shall
make
its
staff
available
to
tour
schools
and
provide
classroom.
Educational
programs
regarding
recycling
contractors
shall
also
sponsor
an
annual
cash
for
class
recycling.
Fundraiser
contractors
shall
also
participate
in
the
community
through
sponsorship
and
participation
in
local
events
at
which
recycling
can
be
promoted.
A
So
we've
seen
veracology's
name
on
you
know
at
the
st
roberts
events,
we've
seen
recology's
name
at
the
coats,
the
coat
drive
for
kids
at
our
local
public
schools,
but
I
think
that,
given
the
state
of
our
public
schools
and
how
they
need
funds,
this
really
is
an
important
area
to
overlook,
and
you
know
I
just
I
personally
have
not
gotten
past
how
this
can
be
best
addressed.
D
J
Thank
you,
so
cash
for
class
started
way
back
when
the
franchise
agreement
began
and
what
I
re
back
to
council
and
the
city
in
regards
to
that
program
was
that
the
involvement
in
the
program
diminished
over
time
so
as
with
any
kind
of
fundraiser
any
kind
of
event
that
you
have
it's
really
strong
in
the
beginning
and
then
it
does
peter
out
over
time.
So
what
was
very
strong
at
one
point
and
then
the
value
of
recycling
and-
and
you
have
different
parents
coming
into
the
schools-
that
the
pta
changes
hands.
J
The
involvement
was
dwindling
down
to
where
it
wasn't
almost
nearly
worth
the
efforts
of
anyone
at
that
point.
So
recology
san
bruno
garbage
at
the
time
shifted
its
focus
and
said
what
this
isn't
happening.
This
isn't
working
for
the
for
the
schools.
What
can
recology
do
or
san
bruno
garbage
at
that
time
do
differently
for
these
schools
and
that's
we
before
my
time
we
had
poster
contests.
We
had
various
different
contests
where
there
was
awards
to
students
and
maybe
faculty
in
classrooms.
J
So
over
time,
we've
tried
to
think
outside
the
box
and
bring
different
things
to
each
of
the
of
the
schools
we
have
like.
I
said
we
have
sponsored
clean
up
debris
boxes.
We
have
sponsored
teacher
appreciation
and
I
you
know,
we've
gone
over
the
list
of
things
that
recology's
done.
So
the
long
of
the
short
of
it
is
the
the
involvement
and
the
participation
just
dwindled
out
again,
like
with
any
program
that
you
bring.
J
J
Are
we're
doing
it
by
we've
done
it
over
the
years
by
donations?
If
you
will
like,
like
I
said,
a
debris
box
for
school
clean
out,
that
is
monies
that
the
school
didn't
have
to
pay
out
of
pocket
for
the
debris
box.
It
is
gifts
for
the
teachers
for
staff
appreciation
day.
It
is
bins
at
the
senior
center
when
the
schools
have.
Their
lobster
boils,
and
things
like
that.
So
anytime,
a
school
comes
to
recology
with
an
ask.
J
A
And
so
I
am
pushing
back
a
little
bit
because
the
contractor
shall
participate
in
the
community
through
sponsorship
from
participating
in
local
events
at
which
recycling
can
be
promoted
is
a
separate
provision
from
the
fundraiser
provision
and
for
some
reason,
when
it
was
negotiated
24
years
ago
it
was
it
was
negotiated,
and
so
I
still
feel
like.
I
brought
it
up.
A
You
know
two
years
ago
at
the
in
the
end,
in
our
initial
conversation
that
it
hasn't
been
complied
with,
and
so,
where
are
we
to
ensure
that
in
the
future
it's
going
to
be
complied
with,
and
how
are
we
going
to
make
that
particular
provision
whole
at
this
point,
because
we're
still
in
a
contract
today-
and
I
know
that
after
this
was
brought
up-
there
was
an
effort
to
do
something
with
the
schools,
but
the
schools
were
out
because
of
kovid.
My
kids
were
remote,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
efficient
that
would
have
been
right.
A
So
I
just
there's
other
council
members
that
do
want
to
speak,
but
I
did
bring
this
up
in
the
meeting
we
had
in
advance
so
that
it
was
known
that
these
were
still
outstanding
issues
for
me
and-
and
I
still
haven't
really
heard
a
resolution
to
them.
So
thank
you.
C
Thank
you
vice
mayor
I
do
want
to.
There
was
a
question
you
I
I
believe
you
asked
that
that
maybe
hadn't
been
responded
to,
and
that
was
in
regards
to
fixed
income
for
individuals
that,
and
so
I
want
to
ask
the
city
manager
just
so
it's
it's
in
the
city
of
san
bruno.
Currently,
if
you
go
and
provide
information,
your
tax
returns
is
my
last
understanding.
C
You
can
get
a
25
deduction
to
your
utilities
and
in
the
garbage
department,
if
you
have
a
32
gallon
tote,
there
is
a
deduction.
Would
that
still
apply.
D
Mayor
you're,
correct,
the
city
does
have
a
discount
program
for
utilities
if
you
meet
certain
thresholds,
that
applies
to
the
32
gallon
toter
and
I
do
believe
that
that
will
continue
in
the
new
franchise
agreement
and
we
will
certainly
not
confirm
that,
and
I
I
see
never
ecology
nodding
their
head.
So,
yes,
it
will
continue.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
circle
back
with
that.
Other
comments
from
colleagues
slash
questions.
C
C
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
any
oh
there
we
go
councilmember
medina.
E
Yes,
so
thank
you.
I
guess
we
haven't
heard
yet
the
response
to
what
to
do
with
our
street
sweeper.
I
was
hoping
staff
could
kind
of
give
us
some
insight
on
that.
Clearly.
Excuse
me
clearly
it's
a
concern,
especially
for
the
person
that,
with
that
job
man
to
the
union
and
to
some
members
of
the
council,
so
but
what
can
the
city
manager
share
with
the
council
at
this
time?
Sure.
D
Thank
you.
Councilmember
medina
just
want
to
restate
that
the
new
negotiations
with
recology
included
them
taking
over
additional
services.
One
of
those
services
is
street.
Sweeping
the
other
is
catch
basin
cleaning.
It
is
important
to
note
that
we
have
not
begun
the
formal
meet
and
confirm
process
with
the
union.
Through
the
negotiations,
we
have
simply
received
a
quote
from
oncology:
should
they
decide,
should
the
city
decide
to
ask
ecology
to
do
those
services?
We
will
certainly
formally
engage
with
our
labor
groups.
D
It
is
important
to
note
that
we
are
not
anticipating
a
layoff.
Should
the
city
decide
to
transition
street
sweeping
from
the
city
providing
those
services
to
ecology
providing
those
services,
as
mentioned
in
the
presentation
having
vertology,
provide
those
services
and
those
services
be
incorporated
in
the
franchise
agreement
and
paid
by
ratepayers
will
have
a
significant
benefit
to
the
city
stormwater
fund,
which
the
city
council
knows
as
underbutted
under
budget
annually
by
approximately
a
million
dollars.
D
So
we
street
sweeping
cost
the
city
approximately
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
do
it
from
the
our
stormwater
fund.
That
will
significantly
reduce
that
deficit,
and
so
it
is
a
process
that
we
will
continue
to
have
discussions
on.
Should
the
city
council
move
forward
with
the
franchise
agreement,
your
direction
tonight
to
continue
with
this
process
is
not
saying
that
we
will
contract
out
street
sweeping
to
ecology.
D
We
have
simply
obtained
a
quote:
should
they
be
asked
to
provide
that
services?
We
would
certainly,
as
I
said
before,
engaged
appropriately
with
our
labor
union
and
would
not
anticipate
any
job
loss
by
making
that
transition.
E
And
a
follow-up
on
that
would
be
well.
Will
staff
provide
the
cost
analysis
of
the
the
of
the
difference
between
our
people
doing
the
work
and
recolleges
people
doing
work?
I
understand
the
concept
behind
transferring
that
cost
out
of
the
storm
water
into
the
the
garbage
fees.
So
I
I
would
request
that
we
we
do
get
the
analysis.
What
I
heard
not
tonight,
but
in
other
discussions
with
the
union
rep
is
it
costs
more
money
to
actually
have
recology
to
it
than
the
city?
D
Sure
and
council
member
medina,
we
would
certainly
provide
a
fully
analyzed
package
for
the
city
council.
D
I
will
note
that,
as
members
of
the
public
knows
we
are,
we
have
talked
about
expanding
our
street
sweeping
program
and
there
is
a
portion
of
the
city
where
cars
are
not
asked
to
move,
and
should
the
city
ever
decide
to
do
that,
we
would
need
to
increase
our
street
sweeping
budget,
and
so
the
quote
that
we
received
from
arcology
is
for
a
more
elaborate
street
sweeping
program
than
we
do
now,
and
so
that
may
be
part
of
the
reason
why
there's
a
cost
differential
but
absolutely
there'll
be
a
fully
analyzed
package
presented
to
city
council
and
again
you're
not
being
asked
to
make
that
decision
tonight.
E
Thank
you
for
that,
and
then
I
guess
this
question
is
for
the
city
manager
or
the
mayor
from
my
experience
being
on
the
city.
Council
is
when
we
go
into
contract
negotiations.
E
Typically,
there
are
two
council
members
that
are
on
a
subcommittee
that
sit
in
the
room
with
recology
and
staff
to
kind
of
go
back
and
forth
a
little
bit.
I
recall
doing
that
with
mayor
jim
rohan
and
I'm
asking
maybe
the
mayor.
E
I
think
maybe
that
hasn't
happened
in
a
while,
but
that
that
happened
when
at
one
time-
and
I
was
in
that
room-
so
I
I
think
it'd
be
appropriate-
that
we
have
a
subcommittee
that
that
partaking
the
the
negotiations
a
little
bit
little
closer,
and
I
don't
have
to
be
that
person.
But
I
I
think
that
would
be
important
that
that
we're
we're
in
that
room
we
get
to
hear
and
possibly
provide
some
suggestions.
C
C
Guy
here
tonight
so
I'll
tell
you
councilmember
salazar,
I'd
like
him
to
chime
in
too.
If
you
remember
something
different,
there
isn't
an.
There
was
an
ad
hoc
committee,
but
I
believe
it
was
on
the
utilities
specifically
of
not
garbage,
I'm
just
going
off
to
memory
and
they
would
come
back
to
the
council
and
because
it
was
for
the
five
year
proposal.
C
I
believe
you
did
serve
on
that
at
one
point
and
I
think
council
member
salazar
did
as
well
and
but
that
I
don't
believe
was
for
the
garbage
we
do
go
out.
I
think
it's
every
three
years
for
a
detailed
report
like
we
are
doing
through
this
company,
which
they
have
looked
at
it
before
so
they're
familiar
with
this,
and
if
you
remember
at
a
last
increase,
I'm
just
going
to
throw
out
numbers,
let's
say
we're:
ecology
came
back
with
five
percent.
C
The
outside
party
looked
at
and
said:
okay,
no,
we
believe
it
should
be
4.38
and
so
ecology
came
back
and
said:
okay,
we're
going
to
lower
it.
So
those
investments
that
we
had
on
r3
as
an
example.
Then
they
reaped
a
cheaper
rate,
so
they,
I
would
say
paid
for
itself
and
and
save
the
taxpayers.
That's
my
memory
but
sell
council
member
salazar
has
maybe
canada.
E
Mr
that
was
a
detailed
accounting
of
it
right.
We
did
what
we
did
for
the
first
time
that
we
had
the
the
the
detailed
review
of
of
the
cost
increase
by
hardware.
C
C
Fine
and
then
council,
member
solitary,
can
you
add
to
that
as
well.
F
Right,
yes,
and
so
we're
going
down
memory
lane
yeah,
I
was
on
the
garbage
sub
community
and
there
was
in
fact
a
garbage
subcommittee.
Jim
wayne
was
was
on
it
and
I
guess
marty
got.
He
took
my
place
when,
when
I
stepped
off
but
generally
the
the
function
of
that
subcommittee
was
to
review
the
details
around
the
detailed
year
increases,
and
so
we
would
sit
down
with
the
all
the
cpi
tables
and
figure
out.
F
You
know
what
was
appropriate
and
whether
their
numbers
jived
and
then
that
would
go
to
the
council
and
there
were
in
in
my
tenure
a
couple
of
studies
that
were
done
just
to
compare
the
rates
and
make
sure
that
they
were
appropriate.
So
I
know
that's
been
done
a
couple
of
times
over
the
past.
A
F
But
it's
just
to
add
add
to
that
right.
Marty
is
absolutely
right.
We
did
have
a
garbage
committee
at
some
point,
but
we
never
in
all
that
time.
We
never
negotiated
a
new
contract
like
like
we're
doing
in
this
in
this
cycle,.
C
And-
and
thank
you
very
much
councilman's
council
member
salazar,
because
I
was
never
asked
by
anyone,
former
mayors
or
others
ever
started.
E
But
but
if
I
can,
mr
mayor,
it
seems
like
something
of
this
substantial
amount
of
resources
and
and
the
length
of
the
contract
that
I
I
think
someone
a
subcommittee
should
be
there
to
to
to
provide
their
insight
and
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
it.
So
I'll
leave
it
at
that
for
now
and
I'd
like
to
hear
from
everybody
else.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
so
I
want
to
ask
for
some
clarification
on
something
I
heard
here
too.
So
I
I
was
always
under
the
assumption
that,
once
the
city
negotiated
a
contract
that
the
school
district
as
a
as
a
you
know,
quasi
resident
of
the
city
would
be
subject
to
the
same
agreement.
But
it
sounds
from
what
I'm
hearing
today
that
they
negotiate
their
own
agreement
with
ecology,
independent
of
of
what
the
city
does
that's
a
question.
D
Thank
you,
councilmember
salazar
I'll
ask
kirsten
pinocchi
from
workology
to
articulate.
J
Thank
you.
Yes,
so
council
member
salazar
public
schools
fall
outside
of
a
franchise
agreement,
so
it
is
necessary
that
school
districts
negotiate
their
own
agreements
with
a
particular
hauler.
They
do
not
fall
under
the
franchise
agreement.
Public
schools
do
not.
I
can't
quote
the
code,
but
that
is
correct
statement.
They
are
separate.
J
Oh
we've
been
following
along
these
all
these
years,
we
did,
like
I
said,
had
an
agreement.
We
knew
back,
or
someone
knew
probably
mario
back
when
this
started
to
set
a
standard
kind
of
a
blanket
agreement
with
the
schools.
So
it
must
have
been
known
then
that
schools
do
do
not
have
to
fall
parallel
and
run
within
the
franchise
agreement.
J
F
Okay,
well,
thank
you.
I
mean
I
learned
something
tonight
too
so,
and
so
in
light
of
that,
I
was
thinking
that
I
don't
think
I
would
be
in
favor
of
ratepayers
picking
up
the
the
20
discount
when
they're
negotiating
their
own
contract,
and
it
could
be
that
they
decide
to
go
with
a
different
hauler,
in
which
case
we
would
be
paying
a
20
premium
that
they're.
Not
even
you
know
it
wouldn't
even
benefit
them
at
all.
F
So
I
think
it
would
be
more
appropriate
to
have
that
in
their
contract
rather
than
in
our
contract
and
and
shift
that
burden
to
to
ratepayers.
So
I
I
think
that
would
be
most
appropriate.
M
So
I
want
to
follow
up
on
the
discussion
that
we
just
had
about
the
about
a
council
subcommittee
so
specifically
about
whether
a
council
subcommittee
can
be
in
the
room
during
the
during
the
negotiation,
and
I
heard
my
colleagues
here
debating
the
history
of
of
that.
But
I'm
still
not
sure.
If
that's
an
option,
can
staff
clarify
if
that's
an
option.
D
Thank
you,
councilmember
hamilton.
I
would
say
that
I
am
unfamiliar
with
any
process
that
would
have
a
city
council
subcommittee,
negotiate
a
franchise
agreement
or
any
other
legal
agreement
and
or
be
in
the
room
where
staff
and
attorneys
are
are
negotiating
that
agreement.
I
think
the
process
that
council
members
are
remembering
is
that
the
city
council
in
some
years
past
had
a
subcommittee
to
review
the
franchise
haulers
in
this
case
for
ecologies
detailed
rate
application.
D
F
Thank
you
and
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
what
the
city
manager
just
said,
that
I
think
his
summary
of
what
we
used
to
do
on
that
subcommittee
is
accurate
and-
and
I
think
I
would
support
letting
the
professional
staff
do
those
negotiations.
F
There's
been
a
number
of
negotiations
that
have
happened
over
the
years,
whether
it's
you
know,
rate
increases
contracts,
tax
structures
whatever,
and
it's
always
been-
the
city
manager
and
the
city
attorney,
who
have
led
those
conversations
without
elected
input,
and
I
think
that
that
is
appropriate
and
it
would
I
I
believe
it
could
hinder
the
negotiations
if
we
have
participation
from
non-professional
individuals
participating
in
those
discussions.
A
Yeah
yeah
there,
the
the
other
issue
I
had
brought
up
a
couple
years
ago,
and
I
brought
it
up
again
recently
and
our
check-in
was
around
the
possibility
of
a
16
gallon
bin.
You
know
some
cities
offer
a
16
gallon
bin.
I
was
approached
after
bringing
it
up
at
one
of
the
public
meetings
by
actually
a
couple
of
residents,
a
handful
of
residents
who
said
that
they
would
love
that
because
they
recycle
more,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
to
know
where
we
are
with
that.
D
Sure
vice
mayor
mason,
absolutely
that
has
has
been
discussed,
important
to
note
that
while
we
do
not
have
a
16
gallon
container,
we
have
a
20
gallon
container,
and
so
our
the
standard
container
is
32.
And
then
we
do
have
a
lower
option,
which
is
a
20
gallon
container.
D
There
are
certainly
operational
issues
with
switching
to
a
16
gallon
container,
as
well
as
the
cost
and
then
factoring
in
what
is
the
likelihood
of
acceptance
and
bearing
that
cost
to
go
four,
more
gallons,
lighter
from
a
20
as
our
smallest
to
a
16.,
and
I
do
know
that
I
believe
it's
san
francisco.
That
has
a
16
gallon
container.
D
But
why
don't?
I
ask
for
college
util
time
a
little
bit
further
on
the
possibility
of
a
16
gallon
container
here
in
san
bruno.
J
Thank
you,
city
manager,
grogan.
We
did
explore
a
while
back
at
the
request
of
of
council
to
look
at
the
16
gallon
and
the
city
manager
is
correct.
There
is
operational,
there's
capital
out.
There
would
be
a
capital
cost
involved,
because
when
we,
when
we
did
the
20
gallon,
it
was
back
when
we
initiated
organics
and
we
were
trying
to
look
at
council's
direction
for
a
cost-saving
measure
on
how
implementing
organics
will.
How
are
we
going
to
help
the
fixed
income
and
the
single
individual
people
who
don't
create
much
waste?
J
So
we
looked
at
the
best
option
at
that
time
was
the
20
gallon,
because
it's
only
an
insert
into
the
current
32
gallon
that
every
that
most
of
the
city
was
already
subscribing
to
so
it
was
the
the
most
cost
effective
for
the
residents
that
needed
it
going
to
a
16
gallon
would
require
new
carts
to
be
purchased.
J
So
there's
that
capital
investment
and
whether
you
had
enough
to
cover
the
entire
city
or
if
you
just
were
going
to
replace
the
10
of
the
customers
who
are
actually
in
the
20
gallon
at
this
time
the
cost
to
service
the
16
gallon
is
just
the
same
to
serve
as
a
32.
J
You
know
you
have
that
standard
cost
when
you
arrive
at
someone's
house
to
tip
all
those
carts,
so
we'd
have
to
really
take
a
deep
dive
to
see
that
the
cost
savings
that
would
be
involved
and
without
crunching
numbers
you're
talking
about
a
four
gallon
disposal
difference
but
you're
talking
about
an
increase
in
capital,
cost
to
purchase
a
new
cart.
J
A
J
If
council
wanted
to
look
at
replacing
the
six,
the
the
20
gallon
with
the
16,
it's
something
we
can
certainly
look
at.
A
I
think
city
manager-
I
don't
know
what
direction
you'd
like
there,
but
I
know
I'd
be
curious
to
know
what
that
cost
would
look
like.
Okay,.
D
Sure
I
think
it's
important
to
know,
though
we
can
absolutely
ask
our
consultant
and
ecology
to
prepare
the
cost
to
switch
out
the
20,
gallon
containers
to
16
gallon
containers
and
then
put
that
before
the
city
council,
but
vice
mayor
mason.
D
What
we're
talking
about
now
is
we
already
have
the
20
gallon
container.
It's
in
operation.
People
can
order
it
where
we're
talking
about
incurring
a
new
cost
to
switch
from
a
20
to
a
16,
and
so
the
numbers
would
be
ran
on
that.
It's
not
simply
a
cost
that
we
would
be
incurring
automatically
by
renewing
or
having
a
new
franchise
agreement
cost.
That
would
be
a
capital
outlay,
but
absolutely
we
can
request
those
numbers
and
bring
them
to
the
city
council
at
a
later
date.
A
D
A
A
So
I
just
want
to
thank
miss
pinocchi,
who
has
been
very
pleasant
through
all
my
questions,
and
I
I
do
want
to
be
clear
that
the
service
for
college
has
given
at
least
I
can
say
personally
has
been
excellent
before
I
was
on
the
council
and
after
I
was
on
the
council.
A
I
just
want
to
be
clear,
though,
on
the
provisions
that
exist
in
regards
to
the
school
district,
which
I
think
is
no
secret-
that
I
you
know,
I
think,
need
to
be
fulfilled
in
some
way
or
the
other
we're
still
in
the
existing
contract
and
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
not
going
to
go
out
to
request
for
bids
that
we
really
are
getting
the
best
rate
for
our
residents
and
that's
really,
I
think,
all
of
our
jobs.
And
so
you
know
I
apologize.
A
C
Thank
you
vice
mayor.
I
appreciate
it
not
seeing
any
other
hands
up.
Oh
I'm
sorry
councilmember
medina,
then
this
other
medina
is
going
to
go.
E
Here
we
go,
this
will
be
the
last
one,
mr
mayor,
so
then
it's
pretty
important,
so
this
proposed
29
increase
right,
that's
substantial
and
we're
told
that
it
was
reviewed.
E
Now
we
sat
down
with
with
staff
and-
and
we
went
through
that,
so
if
staff
could
please
provide
a
copy
of
the
the
analysis
or
the
report,
that
was
done
to
conclude,
that
that
29
increase
was
valid.
D
D
Should
the
city
council
authorize
a
new
franchise
agreement,
we
do
have
a
quote
from
mercology
that
would
significantly
reduce
that
it
would
be
a
six
percent
increase
for
residential
and
a
seventeen
percent
increase
for
commercial
and
so
quite
a
bit
less
than
twenty
nine
percent.
I
just
wanna
convey
that.
C
Okay,
see
no
other
hands
up.
I
want
to
circle
back
around
when
we
I
talked
about
the
schools.
One
thing
that
was
said
was
the
school
districts.
You
know
really
have
a
hard
time
and
struggle
at
times
as
far
as
for
funds
and
resources.
C
But
what
I
see
in
the
contract
is
a
school
district,
so
with
cappuccino
high
school
count,
would
the
san
mateo
county
school
that's
on
commodore
count?
C
Would
a
private
schools
count,
so
I
and
again
what
what
is
clear
is
if
it's
an
80
charge-
and
I
know
it's
0.7.17,
but
it
is
being
subsidized
by
the
ratepayers
and
I'm
going
to
assume.
Let's
say
when
the
next
increase
comes
up,
that
maybe
that
then
increases
from
0.17
to
maybe
0.19
on
the
cost
for
the
16
yeah
there
is.
C
C
Well,
and-
and
tom
wouldn't
know-
I
mean
councilman
rahul
didn't
remember,
and
that
was
an
investment
to
begin
that
process,
which
even
the
city
won
an
award
for
being
in
front
of
recycling.
Councilmember
bev
bernard
was
very
much
behind
that.
So
I
do
worry
about
when,
when
we're
talking
about
10
of
the
folks
have
a
20
gallon,
how
many
would
go
to
16
for
the
investment
I
do
know
something
was
talked
about:
the
lids
and
the
just
having
them
more
latched.
C
I
think
it
was
mentioned
about
in
the
windy
areas
or
those
areas
that
needed
to
have
some
type
of
thing
to
address
them
on
a
case
by
case
or
people
asking
for
something
to
be
addressed,
to
try
to
remedy
that
on
the
street.
Sweeping
you
know
again,
that's
like
recycling
bins
or
the
different
can
you're
having
to
invest
in
that
item.
That
item,
if
we're
going
through
a
franchise
agreement,
we're
going
to
have
that
cost.
C
So
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
hand
over
our
street
sweeper,
so
those
additional
costs
and
burden
costs,
I
think,
are
going
to
go
to
the
ratepayer.
I
do
believe
that
that
is
something
that
the
union
has
to
be
engaged
with.
That's
already,
I
have
heard
indicated
that
that
is
going
to
happen.
I
think
always
it's
it's
nicer
to
have.
C
Everybody
on
the
same
page
as
far
as
knowing
how
we're
evolving
through
this
process,
but
I
appreciate
the
city
manager
just
say
hey.
This
is
not
to
say
that
this
is
going
to
happen,
and
so
it's
just
about
having
it
being
looked
into.
Just
like
the
vice
mayor
asks
about
the
16
gallon.
I
believe
that
you
know
to
local
350
who's
provided
the
service
with
its
members.
C
I
have
done
a
good
job
as
long
as
I've
been
here,
which
is
my
life,
my
whole
life
working
for
the
city
or
not
working
for
the
city
being
on
the
council
or
not
being
on
the
council.
I
have
heard
positive.
C
That's
it's
great.
You
know
we're
going
to
go
everywhere
and
hear
about
streets
and
it's
their
conditions.
We
don't
hear
that
about
recalling
and
they
have
been
a
a
good
partner.
I
think,
to
the
city.
I
think
they
work
well.
They
offer
good
service
they're
good
union
jobs
that
that
provide
that
service.
My
concern
would
be.
If
we
just
sit
stagnant,
then
the
29
is
automatic.
C
It's
within
the
current
agreement,
so
I
do
compliment
the
council
with
staff's
help
and
work
that
we
went
ahead
and
went
through
this
process
because
it's
better
to
ask
now
and
plan
for
the
future
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
assist
our
our
residents
and
ratepayers
and
those
people
that
that
have
to
pay
the
bills
so,
and
I
think
people
have
known
through
my
history
where
I
stand
when
it
comes
to
what
reassigning
work
outside
of
our
folks.
So
with
that
I'm
miss
councilmember
hamilton.
C
D
Thank
you,
mayor
medina,
absolutely
did
not
want
to
jump
in
front
of
council
member
hamilton,
but
you
mentioned
something
that
I
think
has
been
mentioned
a
few
times
tonight.
I
just
want
to
state
my
understanding,
and
so
it's
not
my
understanding.
It
is
not
my
understanding
that
the
20
discount
that
was
offered
to
the
san
bernardino
park
school
district
would
be
subsidized
by
rate
payers.
D
It
was
a
discount
that
recology
was
willing
to
offer
because
they
would
be
the
exclusive
franchise
hauler,
so
they
would
not
be
passing
whatever
that
20
costs
on
to
ratepayers.
It's
just
a
discount
that
they're
offering
as
part
of
these
negotiations.
D
That
said,
understand
the
conversations
tonight
about
if
public
school
districts
are
exempted
from
franchise
agreements,
why
have
that
in
the
city's
franchise
agreement?
I'll
tell
you
that,
because
it
was
offered,
we
thought
that
including
it
in
the
agreement
could
be
a
benefit
knowing
that
college
would
negotiate
their
own
contract
with
the
school
district,
but
at
least
that
was
like
it
was
offered
to
this
offered
in
these
negotiations.
That
would
be
codified.
D
I
think,
given
the
comments
tonight,
let's
staff
go
back
and
analyze
that
with
the
consultant
and
when
we
return
to
you
we'll
return
with
the
detailed
recommendation
on
this
exclusive
point.
I
get
the
comments
that
have
been
made,
but
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
it
was
not
to
be
subsidized
by
ratepayers.
M
Hamilton,
so
I
have
a
few
comments,
so
I
I
share
the
concern
regarding
the
street
sweeping
question
that
we
talked
about
earlier.
So
thank
you
staff
for
for
addressing
that
as
we
go
as
we
move
forward
and
and
then
making
it
clear
that
neither
that
provision
nor
any
other
provision
is
being
agreed
to
tonight,
we're
just
being
asked
to
provide
direction
for
how
to
proceed
and
not
we're
not
ratifying
any
agreements.
Tonight.
M
Regarding
the
the
question
of
council
members
participating
in
the
negotiations,
I
I
agree
that
that
could
be
pretty
problematic
and
what
makes
me
okay
with
not
participating
is
the
fact
that
any
agreement
is
going
to
come
back
to
us
to
be
approved
by
the
city
council.
So
it's
not
like
we're
frozen
out
of
the
process.
The
gonna
stop
with
us
regarding
the
latching
issue
and
the
the
wind
issue
in
my
own
experience
living
on
a
windy
street.
M
If
my
can
is
overloaded
by
even
an
inch,
the
wind
is
going
to
catch
that
lid
and
blow
it
up,
and
I
think
we
need
to
do
more
working
with
residents
to
stop
people
from
overloading
their
cans
up
to
and
including
adding.
You
know,
fees
for,
repeat
offenders,
and
you
know
forcing
people
to
if
to
go,
to
go
to
a
bigger
can
if
they,
if
they
have
the
little
one
and
are
constantly
overloading
it
to
to
to
help
with
that.
M
I
think
that,
there's
more
that
we
then
that
we
can
do
there
to
help
with
that,
because
it
is
a
real
problem
with
our
our
littering
around
the
neighborhood
on
garbage
day,
inadvertent
littering.
M
M
The
29
increase
that
recology
is
absolutely
entitled
to
an
act
under
our
current
agreement,
because
that's
what
the
agreement
is
will
be
put
in
place
for
2023
and
then
another
10
more
over
the
the
following
two
years
and
then
the
worst
part
is
the
new
base
amount
for
all
the
bids
we've
received
through
the
rfp
process,
including
the
one
from
ecology,
if
they
choose
to
participate,
will
be
29
higher
than
what
we're
paying
today.
M
The
partnership
that
we
have
between
recology
and
san
bruno
is
a
long
one.
They've
demonstrated
their
willingness
to
be
responsive
to
our
needs
during
that
partnership
with
programs
like
the
abandoned
waste
pilot
program,
the
community
drop-off
program.
So
I'm
happy
to
see
that
those
are
being
codified
in
the
the
proposed
agreement,
along
with
significant
new
services,
and
I
especially
like
seeing
that
the
the
proposed
extension
of
the
bulky
item
pickup
program
to
include
multi-family
housing.
I
think
that's
very
significant.
F
Thank
you
so
yeah
I've
I've
heard
a
few
things
that
I
definitely
agree
with
and
I
wanted
to
just.
F
I
wanted
to
call
out
our
reich
mayor's
support
for
the
schools
and
I
think
it's
admirable
that
she
not
only
took
the
time
to
actually
go
through
the
contract
and
the
existing
contract
is
it's
a
huge
document.
Anyone
who
remembers
phone
books
that
this
document
resembled
a
phone
book.
F
It
was
that
that
big
and
bulky-
and
I
I
went
through
it
when
I
first
got
on
the
council-
I
don't
know
anybody
else
that
took
the
time
to
actually
go
through
it
and
find
these
details,
so
definitely
commend
her
on
her
work
that
she's
done
and
identifying
all
the
programs
and
all
the
all
the
details,
things
that
I
didn't
even
uncover
in
my
review
of
that.
F
But
one
thing
that
it
highlighted
for
me
is
that
what
if
we
continue
to
advocate
on
behalf
of
a
another
agency?
F
Not
only
do
we
not
know
if
they're,
if
we're
addressing
their
priorities,
but
it's
difficult
for
us
to
evaluate
whether
or
not
their
needs
are
being
met
and
if
things
need
to
change,
you
know
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
be
able
to
respond
to
it,
because
in
this
case
it's
exactly
what
happened
at
some
point.
F
Well-Meaning
council
members,
probably
working
closely
with
district
trustees,
came
up
with
this
agreement,
like
you
know,
include
this
in
your
contract
and
you
know
we'll
watch
it
go
and
then,
over
the
years
those
relationships
dissolved
and
dissipated,
and
you
know
we
end
up
with
these
un
unmet
programs
on
addressed
issues,
and
you
know
here
we
are
years
later
and
wondering
well,
okay.
So
what
went
wrong
and
how
do
we
fix
it?
So
you
know.
F
For
that
reason,
I'm
going
to
continue
to
advocate
that
we
not
include
school,
related
programs
in
this
new
contract,
and
you
know
I
am
supportive
of
moving
forward
with
this.
As
council
member
hamilton
mentioned,
the
alternative
would
be
very
expensive
and
not
necessarily
result
in
a
better
outcome,
and
I
think
we
have
data
to
support
the
fact
that
you
know
this
is
a
good
agreement
for
the
city
and
for
the
residents
and
I'm
almost
hesitant
to
bring
this
up
because
I
don't
want
to
nitpick.
F
But
I'm
looking
at
us
at
page
202
of
the
report
and
it's
a
pie.
Chart
that
says
components
of
the
proposed
rate
adjustment
and
at
the
very
top
of
this
pie
is
a
little
one
percent
green
wedge
that
says
school
discount.
So
I'm
going
to
dispute
the
fact
that
the
ratepayers
would
pick
up
that
cost
because,
according
to
that
slide,
it
is
a
component
of
the
rate
increase.
C
Thank
you
all
for
your
comments.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
so
if
someone
doesn't
feel
that
they
are
not
not
being
noticed,
I
do
see
the
public
comment
hand
up
to
my
knowledge
that
speaker
already
had
an
opportunity
and
did
speak
on
this
topic.
C
I
think
I
had
asked
a
few
times
for
any
other
members,
so
a
person
has
one
opportunity,
and
so
therefore
I
do
see
the
hand
I
just
don't
want
to
feel
it's
being
ignored,
but
that's
the
reason
we're
the
council
we're
at
the
council
level
at
this
point
and
won't
be
going
back
to
public
vice
vera
mason.
A
Yeah
I
just
wanted,
because
I
think
this
is
an
important
point.
I
think,
instead
of
going
to
the
city
manager,
if
our
ecology
representative
could
actually
respond
to
the
question
about
whether
rate
payers
are
subsidizing
the
school's
discount,
and
we
can
go
straight
to
the
source.
J
Council
member
mason
vice
mayor
mason,
we
will,
we
will
work
with
our
three
to
ensure
that
that
portion
that
that
discussed
about
the
reduction
for
the
schools
is
not
part
of
it.
So
when
we
come
back
forth
with
the
actual
rate
application
and
the
agreement
for
approval,
it
will
will
work
with
the
consultant
that
it's
not
in
there.
J
So
the
pie
chart
is
that
the
piece
that
you're
talking
about
so
I
need
to
defer
to
our
three
for
that
question,
as
we've
been
working
together
on
that
piece
and
if
he's
still
on.
D
Yeah,
so
if
I
can,
I
don't
think
that
it's
beneficial
to.
D
Continue
this
discussion,
I
I
think,
set
from
from
staff's
perspective.
We
have
certainly
heard
concerns
from
from
the
city
council
about
including
this
in
the
contract.
I
certainly
understand
that
the
I
think
everyone
believes
our
local
school
district
should
have
as
much
reduced
costs
as
they
can,
and
so
I
understand
the
objective.
D
I
understand
the
concerns,
let
staff
the
consultant
and
the
city's
lawyers
take
back
bills,
and
and
when
we
return
to
city
council,
I'm
confident
that
we
can
work
out
a
path
forward
that
is
both
compliant
with
with
the
law
and
meets
the
objectives.
A
So
just
then
just
to
round
off,
I
guess
my
comments.
It
would
be
great
to
know
what
the
16
gallon
would
look
like
as
far
as
the
cost
goes
significantly
more
years
on
the
outlook,
so
not
just
a
three
or
four
year
lookout,
but
as
much
as
possible.
How
far
out
can't
just
because
desperate
ecology
look
out
as
far
as
they're
foreshadowing
or
forecasting
future
rates,
and
so,
if
we're
entering
into
a
10-year
contract,
maybe
it
should
be
a
five-year,
if
that's
as
far
as
we
can
see.
A
So
what
are
the
options
there
and
I
think
within
that,
that
framework
legally?
What
is
the
council
allowed
to
place
as
limitations,
because
29
is
absurd?
29
is
absurd
and
it
actually
kind
of
forces
the
council
to
even
have
this
conversation
because
nobody
wants
to
force
those
rates
on
on
their
residents.
A
So
how
do
we
prevent
that
from
happening
again
and
then,
just
in
in
regards
to
the
schools?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
very
clear,
there's
two
issues
on
the
schools.
One
is
we're
in
an
existing
contract
and
there
have
not
been
fundraisers,
at
least
as
far
back
as
we
had
initially
requested.
Information
from
there
was
no
evidence
of
any
fundraisers
being
had
other
than
the
year
after.
A
This
was
initially
brought
up
and
it
was
in
the
middle
of
covid,
so
we
have
an
existing
contract
and
what's
going
to
be
done
to
fulfill
the
existing
obligation
and
then
the
future
contract.
I
think
I
want
to
be
clear
that
I
don't
know
if
it
was
intended
or
not
council,
member
salazar,
but
I
actually
have
not
had
conversations
with
any
trustee
around
this,
and
this
was
brought
to
us.
A
So
I
didn't
request
anything
for
the
schools
in
this
new
contract,
and
so
since
it's
before
us,
I
think
that
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
I
was
clear
on
what
the
conversations
had
been
with
the
schools
versus
here
and
I'd
be
just
curious
on
staff's
recommendation
on
that
issue,
whether
it
should
be
in
the
contract
or
not
in
future
contracts.
I
think
I'm
really
actually
open
quite
open
to
that
conversation,
but
I
want
to
separate
that
from
the
existing
contract.
That
is
not
compliant
around
that
provision.
C
Sorry,
council,
member
seller,
council,
member
salazar,
you
had
your
hand
up.
F
F
Looking
at
that
pie
chart,
I
like
pie,
charts,
and
I
was
wondering
if
for
the
next
time
that
we
review
this,
if
we
could
also
add
to
that
pie,
chart
not
just
what
components
make
up
the
rate
increase,
but
also
a
breakdown
of
all
of
the
related
costs.
I
think
these
type
of
visuals
are
really
important
to
share
with
the
public
so
that
they
understand.
You
know
what
what
the
cost
of
doing
business
is
and
and
what
the
breakdown
is.
We've
shared
some.
You
know
similar
charts
with.
F
You
know
how
our
tax
dollars
are
broken
down
and
I've
gotten
some
positive
feedback
on
those.
So
I
think
these
kind
of
things
are
really
important
and
if
you
look
at
you
know
that
almost
a
whole
third
of
this
pie,
wedge
half
a
million
dollars
is
going
to
you
know
the
bulky
goods
and
abandon
waste
program,
and
it
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money.
F
But
you
know
in
the
past
couple
of
years
number
one
complaint
I've
heard
from
residents
is
that
they're,
tired
of
seeing
these
things
dumped
on
the
street
and
if
it
costs
half
a
million
dollars
to
address
it,
we
should
address
it
and
unfortunately,
unfortunately,
nothing
is
free
and
so
there's
a
cost
to
it.
But
I
think
this
tells
a
story
about
us
being
responsive
us
looking
for
solutions
and
and
also
letting
them
know
what
it
costs
to
implement
these
solutions.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
You
got
a
thumbs
up
what
I've
heard
from
councilmember,
salazar,
councilman,
remember,
hamilton
and
mayor
medina
is
to
go
with
option
one.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of.
Can
we
look
into
this
16
gallons
or
whatever
it
is.
But
if
you
want
to
comment
on
that
because
there
again,
you
know
we
can
go
to
what
next
steps
are,
but
anyway
councilman
medina
and
then
let's
try
to
wind
this
up.
I
think
we've
had
all
opportunities
to
speak.
I.
E
I
I
can.
I
agree
that
going
forward
with
option
one,
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
it's
really
clear
that
we
to
have
back
the
option
of
some
type
of
clasp
on
the
garbage
lids.
If
we're
gonna
go
through
so
much
trouble
to
get
new
cans,
then
we
should
make
sure
that
we
get
the
cans
that
have
a
clasp,
because
probably
those
smaller
cans
are
more
likely
going
to
be
overfilled
and
it'll
spill
out
and
it
takes
one
can
to
really
make
a
big
mess
down
a
full
street.
E
I've
seen
it
so
I
I
think
that's
really
really
important,
and
I
made
it
clear
in
my
one-on-one
meeting
with
our
city
manager,
so
I
really
am
expecting
to
see
something
there
return
back
on
cost,
and
so
I
can
fully
support
this.
Thank
you.
C
Okay,
what
I'm
I
was
just
gonna,
go
to
a
city
manager
because
you've
heard
from
all
of
us.
I
think
the
direction
is
to
proceed
with
option
one.
However,
there
was
a
lot
of
other
elements
folded
into
that,
so
I
would
like
to
see
if
you
need
further
direction
or
if
you
want
to
try
to
regurgitate
all
that
back
tonight,.
D
Yeah,
you
know
I'm
going
to
regurgitate
it,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
leave
clear
and
then
address
councilmember
medina's
last
request
for
clarity
from
the
council.
So
here's
what
we've
heard.
I
think
we've
heard
proceed
with
the
a
new
franchise
agreement
that
avoids
the
29
rate
increase
that
would
ordinarily
take
effect
and
can
continue
the
conversations
and
return
to
the
city
council
with
a
new
franchise
agreement,
launch
the
218
process
etc,
as
articulated.
D
D
D
D
The
current
provision
for
class
cash
for
class
in
that
program
to
provide
a
pie
chart
that
demonstrates
the
cost
of
the
rates
in
the
franchise
and
sort
of
nice
images
to
illustrate
that
breakdown
to
provide
the
city
council
with
the
29
rate
analysis
that
was
done,
and
then
the
last
request
was
from
council
member
medina
that
if
we
are
going
to
replace
cans
to
have
a
clasp
on
them
and
so
council
member
medina,
I
believe
that
that
statement
you
made
was
in
regard
to
replacing
the
20
gallon
cans
with
16
gallon
cans.
D
But
I
think
how
you
articulated
it.
It
was
a
also
broad-
and
I
I
know,
because
we've
had
discussions
that
there's
a
desire
for
clasps
or
locks
on
on
lids,
to
prevent
people
from
over
filling
them
or
to
prevent
rodents
from
opening
up
the
top
or
when
blowing
them.
We
haven't
talked
about
that
tonight,
so
I
just
want
to
pause
on
that
point.
I
know
it's
late.
We
did
talk
to
ricology
about
that.
The
challenge
is
that
it
is
a
significant
increase
in
time
and
cost.
D
If
we
move
to
a
system
where
every
lid
is
locked
or
we
provide
locks
and
then
they
have
to
be
unlocked,
and
so,
if
you
increase
the
the
cost
to
service
each
or
the
time
the
service
each
can
by
some
number
of
seconds
and
multiply
that
by
all
the
cans
that
has
a
significant
impact
on
operations,
there
may
be
some
mechanical
ways
to
do
it.
D
But
but
if
it's
a
request
to
look
at
shifting
our
operational
model
to
where
we
provide
locks
for
all
cams,
if
those
cans
are
locked,
the
current
methodology
to
unlock
those
cans
has
a
significant
operational
impact
on
college's
operations.
It
will
impact
routes
and
number
of
personnel
and
so
I'll
pause.
Now,
because
I
know
scott
hannon
has
had
a
number
of
conversations
with
recology
just
to
open
on
that,
and
then
I
want
to
turn
it
back
to
the
city
council,
because
this
is
not
an
insignificant
ask
and
I
think
we
need
clear
direction.
D
E
Asking
right,
if
I
can
make
sure
for
clarity,
it's
not
a
lock,
okay,
there's!
No
key!
You
can
look
on
the
internet,
there's
all
kinds
of
ways
that
it
can
be
done
and
recology
doesn't
reacology's
workforce.
They
come
out
of
the
truck
to
service
garbage
cans
and
a
little
clasp
is
all
I'm
asking
for
and
somehow
another
it's.
It
continues
to
come
back
as
a
lock
and
I've
never
mentioned
the
word
lock.
D
L
Sure
and
again,
rickology
obviously
knows
our
operations
better
than
I
do,
but
even
though
the
drivers
are
getting
out
and
tipping,
there
is
some
amount
more
time
of
unclasping
or
unhooking
and
re-clasping,
and
I'm
not
our
firm's
operations
expert
per
se.
But
I
do
know
that
when
they're
coming
down
the
street,
the
companies
get
as
many
stops
in
a
route
as
they
can
per
day.
L
So,
if
you're
adding
some
number
of
seconds
to
each
stop,
it
will
inevitably
spill
over
somewhere
into
another
route
and
the
biggest
cost
you're
going
to
find
is
the
cost
for
running
a
whole
nother
route
and
because
you
can't
really
do
it's
hard
to
do
a
partial
route,
because
you
need
to
buy
a
new
truck
and
you
need
to
have
a
driver
and
you
don't
want
the
driver
just
sitting
around
so
initially.
That's
why
I
think
recology
came
back
with.
Can
we
handle
this
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
rather
than
going
system-wide?
L
And
again
I,
the
council
members,
you
know
better,
certainly
than
I
do
kirsten,
certainly
can
jump
in
and
give
her
opinion.
But
whether
this
is
thousands
of
people
need
thousands
of
homes,
need
the
clasps
or
it's
a
subset,
that's
more
manageable
for
ecology,
and
I
kind
of
would
leave
with
that.
I
don't
know
what
the
basis
we're
talking
about.
I
just
I'm
saying:
if
you
went
citywide
it
would,
it
would
clearly
have
a
cost
impact
on
operations.
E
Totally
understood,
I'm
not
asking
for
that.
I'm
asking
for
a
process
for
those
that
are
happening
over
and
over
and
over
again
that
there
should
be
a
mechanism
that
eventually
a
class
is
attached
to
the
can,
because
the
amount
of
time
that
one
driver
would
be
to
unlatch
in
that
compared
to
the
amount
of
staff
time
it
would
take
to
clean
up
the
garbage,
can
waste
that's
blown
over
and
going
through
the
neighborhood.
E
E
C
We
just
lost
you,
I
think
we
lost
the
council
member
for
right
now.
I
know
he'll
be
back,
I
think
we
got
the
gist
of
it.
We
understand
what
his
comment
was:
let's
turn
into
the
city
manager
and,
let's
ask
please
be
detailed
or
specific
or,
however,
you
need
to
do
it.
So
we
have
what
you
need
so.
D
We're
set
to
come
back
to
the
city
council
with
a
draft
agreement
on
september
27th,
and
so
that's
a
little
over
a
month.
I
just
want
to
restate
again.
I
think
all
the
the
data
requests
are
fairly
straightforward.
If
what's
being
asked,
is
a
full
analysis
of
class
on
all
cans.
D
I'm
not
sure
that
that
can
be
done
in
in
the
amount
of
time,
but
we
can
certainly
attempt.
I
think,
if
the.
If,
if
the
issue
is,
we
have
a
certain
subset
of
customers
that
overfill
their
lives
or
the
garbage
blows.
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
address
that?
I
think
that
that's
been
partially
talked
about
tonight
and
we
can
talk
about
that
further
with
a
more
strategic
program
to
address
repeat
issues
of
a
certain
customer.
D
I
also
think
it's
important
that
we
engaged
our
experts
in
ecology
that
work
in
this
field,
because
we
we
have
a
problem
and
we
actually
want
to
pick
the
right
solution
because
giving
someone
a
class
doesn't
mean
that
they'll
use
it,
and
so
we
want
to
have
a
process
where
there's
a
either
a
fine
mechanism
or
a
enforcement
and
some
other
enforcement
tool
that
can
actually
have
the
reduction
in
overblown
bins
or
lips
sort
of
coming
off
and
blowing
trash.
So
I
understand
the
issue
overall.
Why
don't
we.
D
D
It's
a
request
to
look
system-wide
and
how
do
we
address
this
issue
and
if
a
analysis
can
be
brought
back
with
what
cost
implications
it
has
to
put
class
system
system-wide
or
to
have
a
more
strategic
program?
We'll
do
it?
I
I
think
we
understand
the
issue.
I
I
really
do
think
it
is
going
to
require
some
deep
engagement
with
recology
to
understand
how
broad
the
issue
is,
because
we
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
you
know,
even
if
we
brought
back
a
significant
cost.
D
I
think
that
the
city
council
should
have
a
assessment
on
how
widespread
the
the
issue
is,
because
the
cost
may
be
significant.
D
I
understand
the
issue
is
a
broader
one
versus
a
limited
one.
A
Yeah
and
just
for
clarity-
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
replacement
city
manager
or
or
just
what
the
cost
would
be
to
add
it,
and
I
think
that's
I
don't
know
if
any
other
council
members
have
a
preference,
but
just
I
just
was
curious
to
know
what
the
cost
would
be
if
we
were
to
either
add
it
or
change
it.
I
understanding
that
it's
a
different
bin
size
and
then
one
thing
I
didn't
mention
is
that
multi-family.
A
I
know,
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
standard
or
just
been
since
covet,
but
I
know
that
the
recology
has
allowed
those
that
are
in
apartments
to
continue
with
the
twice
a
year
garbage
pickup.
So
I
guess
just
whether
that
would
continue,
and
then
you
didn't
mention
this,
but
just
around
the
street
sweeping
the
potential
contracting
out
if
we
could
get
a
follow-up
on
the
union
conversations
that
will
happen
on
that
issue,
and
I
I
think
I
need
to.
C
D
No,
I
I
have
the
request
I
sort
of
wouldn't
be
doing
my
job
and
setting
appropriate
expectations.
If
I,
if
I
don't
say
that
that
we
will
attempt
to
provide
all
the
information
that
is
requested
and
still
meet
the
the
timeline
that
that
is
outlined
because
undertaking
the
prop
218
process
and
having
new
rapes
that
take
effect
january,
1st
requires
actions
to
be
taken
at
certain
times.
In
order
for
us
to
take
that
mandated
process.
D
And
so
we
will,
of
course,
attempt
to
bring
you
all
the
information
that
you
requested
by
september
27th.
But
if
we
are
not
able
to
do
that,
understand
that
it's
a
timing
issue
and
we'll
continue
to
work.
C
Okay,
thank
you
all
very
much
for
the
good
discussion,
the
presentation
and
thank
you
to
the
members
of
the
public
for
participating
and
and
being
here
with
us
this
evening.
Now
we'll
move
on
to
item
eight
comments
from
council
members.
If
you
do
have
comments,
could
you
please
raise
your
virtual
hand,
so
I
can
go
around
the
room
once.
C
That's
not
virtual,
but
we'll
make
it
work.
Councilman
medina.
E
Yeah
it's
tomorrow
at
bel,
air,
453rd,
avenue,
second,
harvest
distribution.
E
If
you
need
food
or
you
want
to
help
volunteer
and
load
it
into
vehicles
or
point
people
into
the
right
direction,
we
always
need
more,
more
more
people
to
give
us
a
hand.
It's
starting
at
1
45.
It
goes
to
around
4
o'clock,
come
with
a
good
attitude
and
you're
doing
a
great
service
to
your
community
to
to
help
people
get
their
food.
So
bel
air
tomorrow,
1
45
to
4
o'clock.
M
Thank
you
I'll
echo
that
for
marty
we
always
need
more
help
to
to
come.
So
if
you
can,
if
you
can
help
us,
please
do.
I
also
want
to
mention
that
this
month
the
pancake
breakfast
of
the
american
legion
is
cancelled.
M
It
would
have
it
was
scheduled
for
this
coming
saturday,
but
they
cannot
do
it
this
month,
so
we
will
hopefully
regroup
in
september,
so
I
just
want
to
let
everyone
know
who
might
have
been
planning
that,
unfortunately,
that
will
not
take
place
this
saturday.
Thank.
C
You
thank
you
for
letting
us
know
any
other
hands
seen
none
I'll
try
to
make
it
brief.
Last
week
I
had
a
meeting
and
met
by
his
request
that
was
superintendent,
matthew
duffy.
I
had
a
very
short
tour
of
allen
but
very
exciting
and
had
asked
the
superintendent
if
you'd
like
to
come
to
the
council
meeting
and
introduce
maybe
just
give
an
update
on
alan.
He
was
very
enthused
to
do
that.
C
C
If
the
grants
get
approved,
the
matching
funding
is
available
also
took
that
opportunity
to
let
them
know
the
resources
that
our
city,
our
police
department,
are
putting
in
to
being
there
physically
to
help
minimize
the
situations
in
the
fair
evasion
and
then
finally,
this
saturday,
one
o'clock
at
between
the
bart
station
and
the
san
bernardino
police
station,
there
will
be
at
one
o'clock
the
ribbon
cutting
for
the
tampering
internment
memorial
that
will,
as
you
know,
we
had
a
groundbreaking
and
it
has
come
to
fruition
and
saturday
at
one.
Everybody
is
welcome.