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Description
San Bruno City Council Meeting June 11, 2013
10a Design and Maintenance for Posy Park Water Feature
B
Mr.
mayor
members
of
the
council,
we're
returning
to
you
tonight,
as
we
said,
we
would,
at
the
last
City
Council
meeting,
to
follow
up
on
a
couple
of
remaining
items
of
decision-making
and
one
information
item
that
the
City
Council
requested
related
to
the
planned
improvements
and
features
at
cosi
park
along
first
avenue
and
the
lighting
under
the
overcrossing.
B
That
is
rapidly
becoming
a
project
taking
shape
at
our
grade
separation
in
san
bruno
avenue
and
along
the
rail
line
in
san
bruno
specifically,
the
city
council
is
being
asked
tonight
to
render
a
final
decision
in
order
that
the
project
can
continue
to
move
forward.
Undelete
Ords
its
final
completion
at
the
end
of
this
calendar
year
on
a
couple
of
items,
and
I'm
going
to
leave
it
to
mark
simon
of
the
joint
powers
board.
To
give
you
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
those
specific
items
and
the
specific
decision-making
being
asked
to
the
council.
B
In
summary,
it
is
to
confirm
the
Eastside
landscape
treatment
along
first
avenue
along
the
wall
and
the
planter
area
adjacent
to
the
wall
in.
Let
me
back
up
and
say
that
at
your
last
council
meeting,
I
think
the
council
made
a
fair
amount
of
progress
towards
a
number
of
other
issues
of
decision
making,
but
did
ask
for
a
little
bit
more
clarity
about
some
of
these
features,
so
that
you
know
precisely
what
it
is
that
you're
being
asked
to
approve.
B
So
it's
with
that
in
mind
that
we're
returning
to
you
tonight
its
with
that
little
bit
more
information
and
mr.
Simon
will
would
give
you
a
little
bit
more
detail.
The
second
topic
is
the
water
feature
that
has
long
been
anticipated
as
a
prominent
amenity
in
the
relocated
Posey
park,
and
again
mr.
Simon
will
will
walk
through
exactly
what
the
features
of
that
amenity
are
and
then
thirdly,
you're
being
asked
tonight
to
confirm
and
give
final
approval
to
the
lighting
treatment
on
the
under
crossing
at
San
Bruno
Avenue
directly
under
the
station
platform.
B
The
last
item
that
the
City
Council
requested
additional
information
about
and
I'd
like
to
just
speak
for
a
moment
to
that
is
the
anticipated
cost
and
method
or
the
the
game
plan.
If
you
will
for
maintenance
of
these
new
improved
features
once
the
grade
separation
project
is
finally
completed
and
turned
over
as
a
finished
product
to
the
city
of
San
Bruno,
or
rather
certain
elements
of
that
at
Posey.
Park.
B
There's
an
interest
to
understand
what
it
will
take
for
the
city
to
take
over
maintenance
of
the
water
feature,
and
similarly,
the
City
Council
was
interested
in
understanding
what
the
potential
cost
and
game
plan
for
maintaining
into
the
long-term.
The
landscaping
improvements
at
Posey
Park
I
need
to
point
out
to
you
that,
pursuant
to
our
agreement
with
the
JPB,
the
city
will
also
assume
responsibility
for
landscape
maintenance
along
first
avenue.
B
As
the
written
report
in
your
agenda
materials
for
tonight
indicates,
staff
has
done
some
research
and
developed
information
that
identifies
to
the
best
of
our
current
knowledge
and
understanding
of
both
what
the
improvements
consist
of
and
what
will
likely
be
required
in
order
to
keep
them
in
a
reasonable
shape
of
Satan's.
We
are
estimating
a
total
of
approximately
sixty
six
thousand
dollars
from
that
amount.
Is.
B
I'm
sorry
and
it's
approximately
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars
in
my
mistake,
assuming
a
water
feature
at
posey
park
staff,
specific
recommendation.
It
is
that
that
feature
would
best
be
turned
over
to
a
contractor
with
expertise
in
pool
indoor
fountain
maintenance,
in
order
to
assure
that
not
only
is
the
water
quality,
but
the
pumps
and
various
structures
of
the
of
the
water
feature
are
maintained
in
a
manner
that
it
makes
us
continue
to
be
your
proud
and
view
this
as
an
amenity
in
cosi
park.
B
B
Similarly,
we
staff
up
in
the
winter
for
storm
drain
maintenance,
Sam
bag
production
in
the
Public
Services
Corporation
yard
area.
So
similarly,
we
would
anticipate
in
this
budget
or
estimate
amount
is
based
on
part-time
staff
hours.
That
would
be
necessary,
in
addition
to
supplement
the
addition
additional
work
force
to
perform
these
additional
job
responsibilities.
A
quick.
B
The
most
of
that,
the
routine
maintenance
is
performed
by
staff,
specialized
maintenance,
work
for
pump
repair
or
is
it
was
a
routine
maintenance.
I'm
talking
about
things
like
checking
the
water
levels
and
rushing
rushing,
you
know,
keeping
leaves
out
of
the
pool,
but
the
other,
the
other,
more
technical
maintenance
activities,
if
pump,
maintenance,
etc,
is
typically
performed
out
sourced
by
contract.
B
I'll
tell
you
just
for
the
purposes
of
getting
a
reasonable
estimate.
We
did
consult
with
archstone
actually
because
they
have
a
similar
kind
of
large
water
feature.
We
thought
that
we
could
get
an
idea
from
them,
but
certainly
that's
a
good
idea
and
it
it.
It
may
produce
a
cost-effective
result
for
us.
B
C
You
good
evening,
as
you
can
see,
and
just
for
the
sake
of
the
permanent
record,
we
did
provide
this
material
to
the
city
last
week
and
I
believe
the
council
was
given
a
chance
to
see
these
things
in
print.
In
addition
to
what's
on
the
screen,
and
you
could
see
some
various
one
of
the
things
you
asked
for
which
struck
us
all
is
eminently
reasonable,
was
drawings
of
the
water
feature
that
gave
us
a
better
idea
of
what
it
was
and
what
it
looked
like
in
his
scope.
C
So
we
have
a
series
of
those
now
to
show
you
how
it
will
work,
there's
a
shot
from
above
and
see
that
it
sort
of
flows
down
the
series
of
steps
and
they're.
Also
this
series
of
spring,
like
fountains,
all
across
the
back
wall
and
it
all
recirculates
the
water
recirculates.
So
it's
a
sort
of
a
continuous
flow
of
water.
C
C
C
A
D
A
E
C
D
E
C
B
B
Considerations
about
the
at
the
at
the
last
council
meeting,
there
was
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
about.
Is
this
going
to
be
actually
a
more
like
a
fountain?
Where
there's
you
know,
potential
for
water
blowing
all
over
everywhere
doesn't
really
look
like
it
is
that
that
is
likely
to
be
a
huge
problem
or
water
blowing
out
into
the
pavement
area
in
creating
a
slipping
hazard.
I
think
those
types
of
issues
have
our
minds
have
been
relieved
about
that
they,
I
would
say
staffs
opinion
is
that
they,
the
features
as
presented.
B
Our
are
very
nice
in
that
this
would
be
a
terrific
amenity.
It's
it's
really
up
to
the
council's
decision,
making
whether
you
think
that
it
is
given
the
cost
and
given
the
logistics
of
the
maintenance
of
it.
Whether
this
is
something
that
the
city
can
reasonably
managed
in
a
so
that
it
stays
a
nice
amenity
and
I.
Think
that
would
be
that's
really
the
biggest
biggest
consideration
we
need
to
make
tonight.
I.
F
Really
think
that
the
water
adds
a
lot
to
the
the
appearance
of
the
area
and
if
it
doesn't
seem
like
the
maintenance
is
going
to
be
cost
prohibitive,
a
little
will
be
a
jump
in
what
we're
currently
doing.
I
I
think
that
this
is
I
think
that
we
should
definitely
pursue
the
water
feature.
That's
it
looks
to
me.
It
looks
like
it
was
designed
to
have
water
and
with
the
grass
in
it
it
just
looks
like
a
fountain.
That's
got
grass
in
it,
so
let's
put
water
in
it.
A
G
Just
want
to
be
really
clear:
I
want
everyone
to
be
really
clear.
The
cost
of
maintaining
the
fountain
itself
is
only
roughly
twelve
thousand
dollars,
so
my
understanding
is
the
cost
of
maintaining
everything
else
is
going
to
be
60
plus
thousand
dollars
so
regardless
of
regardless,
if
we
do
the
fountain
or
not
we're
still
looking
at
sixty
plus
thousand
dollars
of
maintenance
per
year
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
do.
Okay,
just
so
that's
clear,
I
was
originally
against
the
fountain.
G
To
tell
you
the
truth:
I
hadn't
had
a
clear
picture
of
what
it
would
look
like
and
I
am
relieved.
I
am
relief
to
that.
It's,
not
water,
shooting,
really
high
up
bend
that
the
winds
going
to
push
it
on
to
the
walkway
and
all
those
things
I
really
appreciate
looking
at
the
curve
and
how
how
it
all
works
together.
So
as
long
as
we
as
a
council
understand
we're
going
to
have
to
up
our
auntie
as
far
as
maintenance
goes
I'm
all
for
it,
we.
D
Go
we
just
had
a
budget
study
session
so
obviously
there's
time
to
take
care
of
any
that
any
of
those
issues
that
may
arise
from
a
decision
tonight,
as
I
was
at
the
last
meeting,
I
was
in
favor
of
the
water
feature,
I
still
AM
tonight
the
pictures
do
help
and
then
I
know.
The
other
item
was
to
confirm
the
First,
Avenue
landscaping.
I
know,
and
it's
just
for
my
peace
of
mind.
Maybe
I've
been
up
here
a
little
bit
or
something
in
a
couple
meetings.
D
Don't
remember
that
coming
up
to
us
making
that
decision,
one
versus
the
other-
that's
just
my
memory,
but
I
will
acknowledge
that
that
information
has
come
up
and
I
would
say
absolutely
yes
on
the
water
feature
I,
like
the
mayor's
comment
about
looking
to
the
vendor
that
services,
maybe
the
pools,
needs
and
see
if
that
can
be
coordinated
and
was
there
a
third
thing
that
we
were
looking
for
tonight?
We're.
C
E
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
ten
years
ago
when
the
Citizens
Advisory
Committee
first
viewed
the
the
designers
proposal
for
for
Posey
park.
We
all
sort
of
gasped
and
said
wow
who's
going
to
pay
for
that,
and
we
were
cautious
because
is
why
yeah
let's
go
for
it,
but
you
know-
and
we
know
we'd
have
to
answer
the
question
someday.
E
You
know.
How
is
that
going
to
affect
the
budget
in
just
the
overall
getting
it
constructed
and
then
obviously
the
ongoing
maintenance-
and
we
went
you
know
the
consensus
was
to
you
know-
was
to
keep
it.
My
only
concern
was
you
know?
How
was
the
feature
going
to
be
water?
Like
you
know
it
was
it
had
water?
We
knew
it
at
water
in
it,
but
this
gives
it
a
lot
more
credibility
to
show
that
you
know
now
you're
going
to
be
able
to
hear
it,
you'll
be
able
to
see
it
better.
E
Weary
I've
always
liked
the
plaza
in
the
opposing
party
area
and
I
think
any
criticism
about
or
argument
about,
maintenance.
It's
like
we
haven't
maintained
this
part
of
the
city.
In
my
memory
I
mean
we
can
talk
about
First
Avenue,
we
can
talk
about
Posey
park,
we
can
talk
about
that
whole
area
and
we
haven't
invested
any.
You
know
any
maintenance
funds
in
that
area,
and
that
just
goes
with
you
know,
with
progress
and
improvements
and
I
think
we'll
we're
going
to
have
to
find
a
way.
So
yes,
yes,.
A
And
I
also
agree
with
the
water
future.
Some
we've
worked
on
for
I
think
it's
longer
than
10
years,
but
can't
take
back
that
he
yeah
right
exactly
so.
I
agree
with
the
comments
from
the
rest
of
the
council.
We're
gonna
have
to
maintain
the
area
anyway,
but
it
adds
a
little
spark
that
whole
area
in
little
life
so
I
think
you
have
your
direction
great.
C
Thank
you.
You
know,
I
just
want
to
tell
you,
as
you
drive
up
and
down
the
peninsula,
you
look
at
grade
separations
that
we
built
there's
nothing
like
this
anywhere
else.
You
should
be
very
proud
of
where
we
ended
up
and
the
took
a
long
time
for
us
to
get
where
we
are,
including
taking
a
long
time
to
show
you
what
it
would
look
like,
but
we've
had
as
a
goal
from
the
beginning
to
do
something
that
sets
san
bruno
apart.
C
C
And
just
for
the
sake
of
the
permanent
record,
the
great
separation
doesn't
just
stop
like
that.
This
is
just
some
examples
of
some
of
the
trees
will
plant.
You
can
see
a
side
view
they'll
be
landscaping
on
the
on
the
I.
Don't
know
how
to
describe
at
the
area
that
slopes
down
slope
the
slope
and
also
a
strip
of
landscaping
between
the
pedestrian
sidewalk
and
where
the,
where
the
great
separation
berm
begins.
C
You
can
see
there's
quite
an
extensive
bit
of
landscaping,
all
the
all
the
shrubs
and
all
the
trees
and
all
the
vegetation
has
been
done
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
of
the
city
and
its
in
its
own
parks
department.
I
forget,
which
is
it
the
parks
department?
Am
I
right
yeah?
In
other
words,
these
are
all
city
approved,
City
required
vegetation.
E
H
D
D
Teacher
on
the
wall
on
the
smooth
surface,
unfortunately,
because
vice-mayor
showed
me
some
pictures
to
this
evening
of
graffiti
and
all
I
thought
was
smooth
canvas
yeah
for
somebody
to
want
to
go,
unfortunately,
and
we
know
what
they
do
so
would
the
smooth
surface
be
better
or
the
one
that
we
didn't
think
was
in
there
that
the
councilman
I've
ever
found,
and
would
that
be
more
of
a
deterrent
to
that
possibility?
I
don't
know
I.
C
G
Would
guess,
and
just
from
anecdotal
things,
that
I've
heard
around
places
that
the
rough
is
less
they're
less
people
are
less
inclined
to
spray-paint
rough
surfaces,
because
the
you
know
the
it's,
what
they
are
spray
painting
doesn't
show
up
as
well,
so
I.
I
would
guess
that
that
and
you
guys
have
had
more
experience
with
graffiti
throughout.
Does
it
matter?
Well,.
G
D
H
You're
absolutely
correct
in
this
is
obviously
non-scientific
polling
data
here,
but
yes,
you're,
correct
the
the
rough
finished
sheep's
discouraged
it
a
little
bit
problem
is,
is
when
somebody
does
it's
harder
to
deal
with.
So
the
advantage
of
a
sweet
wall
is
that
you
can
paint
it
and
you
can
readily
repaint
it.
The
advantage
of
the
rough
face
is
that
they're
less
likely
to
pay
in
the
first
place.
So
it's
there's.
C
E
C
Well,
I
think
some
of
it
is
growing
up
on
the
back
wall
right
yeah.
You
know
the
real
issue
here
is
less
to
do
with
that.
Then
just
the
general
scheme
of
the
landscaping,
because
it's
landscaping,
we
can
make
decisions
about
very
late
in
the
process.
That
is
not
something
we
have
to
decide
right
now.
So
if
it's
the
council's
preference,
that
we
try
to
find
some
way
to
cover
that
wall
with
with
growing
stuff
with
growth,
we
can
certainly
work
with
the
city
on
doing
it.
I.
C
C
E
I'm
it's
in
this
being
in
the
subcommittee
with
the
mayor.
This
is
this:
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
in
preserving
or
even
enhancing
and
improving
either
view
from
the
First
Avenue
homes,
and
this
we
did
have
a
lot
of
cross-sections
a
lot
of
elevations
of
this
nature,
and
so
this
is
what
this
is.
What
we're
accustomed
to
write.
I
I
can
jump
in
put
your
clarification,
what
it's
a
subcommittee-
and
you
saw
a
concept
droid
being
in
cross
section
at
that
time
when
this
this
project
and
the
maintenance
agreement
and
operation
agreement
was
approved
by
you
at
that
time.
The
assumption
was
that
the
second
two
tracks
will
be
as
the
next
phase
and
that's
the
reason
why
you
never
saw
a
finalized
design
on
the
east
side.
G
Thank
you.
I
have
one
more
question:
I'm
a
little
confused
about
the
parking
that
shows
here.
Are
we
adding
to
the
width
of
are
you
adding
to
the
width
of
the
street
and
then
putting
and
then
making
parking
like
that,
or
is
the
width
of
the
street
going
to
be
the
same
as
it
is
now
and
that's
just
lines
for
parking
or
is
that
just
a
concept
concept
somebody
threw
out
there?
H
A
H
So
that
there
you
go
there.
Hopefully
that
answers
your
question.
Yes,
so
to
answer
your
question
in
there
is
a
portion
that
is
recessed
in
somewhat
it
comes
in
further
to
the
west,
and
that's
where
the
parking
is
hope
see.
You
don't
see
that
strip
running
the
whole
length
along
first
avenue.
Okay,.
I
B
B
G
G
C
G
H
H
I
H
G
H
We
are
so
it
gets
reconstructed
as
part
of
a
project.
So
if
you
recall,
as
part
of
the
complicated
land
transfer
arrangement,
we're
actually
providing
a
nine
and
a
half
to
10
foot
strip
of
property,
and
so
we
see
that
looks
like
a
Prius
I
guess
we
see
that
Prius
right
there,
that's
actually
on
JPB
property
right
now.
It's
actually
the
AJ
is
getting
nine
and
a
half
feet.
Wider
I
keep
that
answer
that
and
then
they'd
all
gets
repaved
and
a
new
sidewalk
and
then
street
trees
along
huntington,
ave,
okay,.
H
Can
you
show
the
plan
overall,
you
could
probably
see
it
there
you
go
so
this
is.
This
is
actually
artichoke
Joe's
parking
lot
and
those
fancy
octagons
you
see
on
the
foreground.
Those
are
tree
street
trees.
So
there's
a
small
triangular,
a
sort
of
planner
at
the
corners
where
each
of
those
wheel
stops
are
okay,.
G
D
G
D
A
C
I
C
C
So
that's
we
mentioned
that
that's
the
vehicular
under
faster.
You
can
change
the
color,
so
you
could
make
a
green
for
st.
Patrick's
Day
or
something
I
suppose
or
it's
another
one.
I
think
thats
pink,
there's
an
orange
and
that's
within
the
city's
control
to
change
that
color
and
even
affect
the
brightness
of
it.
C
So
that
just
gives
you
a
feel
for
it
and
then
the
pedestrian
underpass
lighting.
It's
simply
enough
to
say
it's,
it's
a
simple
strip
down
the
middle.
The
problem
is
that
they
don't
depict
the
underpass
very
well,
it's
not
very
long
and
it's
extremely
remarkably
wide.
It's
what
why
what
it's
20
feet
wide
35
feet
long.
So
it's
not
a
very
long,
underpass
I
know
I
would
be
concerned.
There's
an
eye.
There's
the
underpass
as
it's
under
construction.
You
can
see
get
a
better
idea
of
at
least
the
size
of
it.
C
C
C
So
that
was
the
last
thing
to
two
more
things
we
wanted
to
talk
about.
Briefly,
we
got
clear
direction
from
the
council
about
a
medallion.
We
took
one
sort
of
brief
stab
drawing
something,
and
it's
it's
not
worth
showing
to.
You
will
have
to
work
with
staff
and
with
the
subcommittee
probably
to
really
brainstorm
some
ideas,
that's
something
that
can
come
I
mean
we
could
do
it
the
day
of
the
ribbon
cutting
or
we
can
even
do
it
afterwards.
We'll
make
sure
that
the
the
19
72.
C
I'm
not
going
to
come
back
in
two
weeks,
all
right
not
for
that
anyway.
I
might
just
come
back
the
week
and
we
can
build
the
the
great
separation
so
that
their
bolts
there
for
the
medallion
and
that's
something
we
can
do
at
the
very
end
or
even
literally
afterwards.
But
we
we
recognize
it.
It's
a
signature
statement
for
the
city
and
we
want
to
really
take
the
time
to
design
something
and
work.
Something
out
can.
E
I,
ask
I:
ask
a
question,
probably
prefer
Raphael
regarding
those
bolts
that
are
sticking
out
right
now,
I
mean
those
are
all
post,
tension
bars
and
everything
coming
out.
That
would
have
been
I
guess,
coupled
with
the
the
next
two
tracks.
You
know
if,
if
that
were
to
come
or
when
that
was
going
to
come,
so
how
does
that
get
covered
or
does
that
get
removed?
E
H
H
H
So
you'll
actually
see
if
you
drive
by
now,
you'll
see
them
actually
building
platforms
to
get
back
up.
There
there's
another
whole
set
of
divorce.
They
need
to
do
with
that
location
and
then
I
mean
if
we
lot
less
dramatic
than
the
first
time,
because
you're
only
adding
on
you
know
four
feet
of
concrete
this
time,
but
yeah.
That's
what
those
good
me
look
forward
to
that.
Thank
you.
G
I
have
one
more
question
and
it
just
came
to
me:
there
might
be
a
trade-off
in
cost
of
keeping
the
concrete,
smooth
but
coating
it
with
the
graffiti.
Whatever
that
stuff
is
called
it.
You
know
yeah
anti-graffiti
painting,
you
know
so
you
code
it
with
paint,
and
that
makes
it
easier
to
wash
off.
So
that
might
be
a
solution
both
ways
and
then
the
same
with
the
under
passing
underpass,
that's
an
extremely
attractive
place
to
put
graffiti
is:
can
we
ask
that
it
be
also
coated
with
anti-graffiti
paint
sealant.
H
H
E
F
H
D
H
I'll
double
check
what
angles
those
were
placed
at
it.
The
ramps
I
mean
in
general
view
tent
was
exactly
that
was
to
discourage
yeah.
You
know
any
kind
of
nefarious
activity
from
taking
place,
and
so
they're
generally
at
each
of
the
underpasses
and
or
all
the
access
points.
So
I'd
be
very
surprised
if
there
isn't
some
coverage
of
that,
but
I
can
double
check
cuz.