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From YouTube: San Bruno Planning Commission Meeting January 19, 2021
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San Bruno Planning Commission Meeting January 19, 2021
Whole Meeting
trt 1:44:15
B
B
Yes,
okay!
Well,
I
guess
we
can
let
madeleine
know
that
we're
ready.
B
Yes,
chair:
we're
live
wonderful,
okay,
thank
you
so
much
welcome
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
san
bruno
planning
commission
meeting
for
tuesday
january
19th
2021
happy
new
year
and
thank
you
to
everyone
for
attending
another
virtual
meeting
and
thank
you
again
to
our
san
bruno
city
staff
for
making
this
possible
for
our
members
of
the
public.
We
want
to
hear
from
you
and,
if
you're
in
the
audience-
and
you
would
like
to
address
the
commission
during
public
comment
or
during
a
public
hearing
item,
that's
on
the
agenda.
B
You
can
use
the
raise
your
hand
button
in
your
zoom
tools
and
when
it's
your
turn
to
speak,
we'll
call
your
name
and
unmute.
You
and
you'll
have
three
minutes
to
address
the
commission
and,
if
you're
joining
by
telephone,
you
can
also
address
the
public
address
the
commission
during
public
comment
by
pressing
star
nine
and
we
will
address
and
unmute
you
and
again
you'll
have
three
minutes.
Let's
see
a
quick
reminder,
we're
gonna
continue
to
do
roll
call,
votes
for
every
agenda
item
and
then
we'll
vote.
B
I
guess
just
a
generic
vote
to
close
public
hearings.
I
think
that
is
mostly
it.
I
guess
we're
ready
for
a
roll
call.
Pamela.
A
Wonderful
madeline:
do
you
mind
taking
roll
call
for
the
commissioners
sure
chair
11.
C
E
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
the
pledge
of
allegiance
and
madeline
are
you
able
to
give
us
the
flag?
I.
D
B
D
B
B
F
Through
the
chair,
a
couple
of
minor
things
on
the
minutes
for
last
the
last
meeting
read
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
It
said
states
that
there
were
six
a's
and
in
fact
there
were
seven
and
also
on
item
4b,
cypress
avenue
the
motion
to
close
public
hearing.
F
B
Yeah
item
4b
and
4a,
I
did
abstain
from
both.
It
was
noted
in
4a,
but
actually
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
my
abstention
was
not
noted
in
4b.
B
D
D
B
Okay,
thank
you
sounds
as
though
we
are
approved
okay
and
then
now
we
have
our
first
public
comment,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
speak
about
topics
that
are
not
on
the
tonight's
agenda
and
madeline.
If
there
are
any
members
of
the
public,
they
can
raise
their
hands
to
speak.
B
Do
we
see
anybody
who
would
like
to
speak?
We
do
okay,
so
we
have
three
minutes
for
individuals
and
five
minutes
for
groups,
although
I
don't
know
how
we'd
do
groups
on
here,
so
I
guess
we're
going
to
do
probably
individuals
and
just
for
the
brown
act.
We
can't
vote
on
anything.
That
is
not
agendas,
but
we
do
take
comments
and
we
welcome
them.
H
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
yes
hi?
I
will
not
use
my
three
minutes
I'll
I'll,
keep
it
quick
cause.
I
know
you
guys
want
to
get
to
work
with
all
the
the
cancellations
of
meetings
at
the
end
of
2020.
I
never
got
a
chance
to
say
goodbye
and
thank
you,
so
I
wanted
to
join
very
quickly
to
to
thank
all
of
you
for
for
all
of
your
work
here
on
the
committee.
I
learned
so
much
from
each
and
every
one
of
you
both
commissioners
and
staff.
H
It
was
a
great
experience
being
on
the
on
the
planning
commission,
and
I
know
you
guys
will
continue
to
do
great
work
for
the
city
of
san
bruno
and
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
how
much
I
appreciate
all
of
you.
Thank
you.
B
I
know
I
know
I
I
probably
speak
for
everybody
when
I
say
it
was
such
a
pleasure
to
work
with
you
and
we
learned
from
you
as
well,
and
I
know
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
your
new
capacity
and
congratulations
on
your
city
council
position.
Thank
you.
I
B
Okay,
anybody
else
madeline
for
public
comment;
no,
no
one
else.
Okay!
Thank
you.
So
then,
we'll
go
to
item
three
announcement
of
conflict
of
interest.
Do
any
commissioners
need
to
recuse
themselves
from
any
items
tonight.
B
Okay:
okay,
that's
our
first
item
and
it's
going
to
be
next
pamela
or
maybe
madeline.
Can
you
remind
me
how
we,
I
think
you
put
him
in
a
waiting
room?
Is
that.
D
Right,
we
put
him
in
a
waiting
room
I'll,
do
that
now.
B
Okay,
we'll
see
on
the
other
side,
commissioner
madden.
B
B
B
Thanks:
okay,
so
go
to
item
four:
that's
new
business
and
item
4a
is
2601,
cottonwood,
drive
and
staff
report.
Please.
G
Hey,
thank
you,
michael
smith,
planning
department
staff.
So
the
item
before
you
is
2601
cottonwood
drive.
This
is
a
request
for
a
conditional
use
permit
to
construct
a
386
square
foot
residential
addition
that
would
enlarge
the
existing
house
by
more
than
50
percent
of
the
existing
floor
area,
exceed
the
maximum
permitted
floor
area
by
350
square
feet
and
exceed
the
maximum
permitted
lot
coverage
by
386
square
feet.
G
If
approved,
the
house
would
be
3534
gross
square
feet,
and
that
includes
the
attached
two-car
garage.
G
The
existing
home
was
constructed
in
1955
and
has
five
bedrooms
and
three
bathrooms
a
living
room
and
a
dining
room,
and
approximately
sixteen
hundred
and
forty
eight
square
feet
of
habitable
floor
area
with
a
413
square
foot,
two
car
garage,
the
subject:
lot
measures
sixty
one
hundred
and
sixty
square
feet.
G
That's
fifty
six
feet
in
width
by
140
feet
in
depth
in
1996
a
600
square
foot
addition
was
added
to
the
rear
of
the
home,
the
addition
added
two
bedrooms,
a
full
bathroom
and
enlarged
the
dining
room
and
at
approximately
the
same
time
the
building
was
authorized
as
a
residential
care
facility
for
up
to
six
adults,
and
the
entrance
ramp
was
added
going
up
to
the
front
door
that
you
see
in
the
photos.
G
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
a
358
square
foot
first
floor
edition
at
the
rear
of
the
building
and
a
new
595
square
foot
second
floor
edition
the
ground
floor.
Addition
would
measure
about
12
feet
in
depth
and
if
the
addition
would
add
a
new
family
room
and
a
new
a
couple
bedrooms
on
the
second
floor.
G
Excuse
me,
sorry,
so
that
let
me
back
up
a
second,
so
they're
at
they're,
adding
a
1386
square
foot
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
home.
The
addition
would
measure
18
feet
in
depth
and
38
and
a
half
feet
in
width
and
22
feet
in
height.
G
G
The
addition
would
have
three
bedrooms,
an
office
and
a
living
room
and
two
and
one
half
baths
with
the
existing
residents.
If
approved
and
constructed
the
existing
structure
would
remain
a
single
family
dwelling
being
used
as
a
residential
care
facility,
with
eight
bedrooms,
five
and
one
half
bathrooms
in
3120
square
feet
of
habitable
area.
G
The
discussion
at
that
meeting
really
centered
around
the
future
use
of
the
property
as
a
single
family
dwelling
and
what
that
would
mean
with
eight
bedrooms
and
five
and
a
half
bathrooms
and
whether
it
was
appropriate
for
the
neighborhood
other
concerns
discussed
at
that
meeting
came
from
the
uphill
neighbor
who
had
submitted
correspondence
to
staff
that
the
proposed
edition
would
block
their
view,
their
easterly
view
towards
the
east
bay
hills
and
towards
the
bay.
G
But
after
receiving
all
of
this
public
input
and
listening
to
the
staff's
recommendation,
the
arc
ultimately
did
recommend
forwarding
this
use
permit
by
a
three-nothing
boat
to
the
planning
commission
for
approval,
and
there
were
the
number
of
recommendations
they
wanted
to
see
implemented
in
those
plans.
G
So
I'm
going
to
go
through
those
briefly.
They
wanted
the
windows
label
to
ensure
that
all
windows
within
the
building
are
the
same
material,
color
and
operation.
They
wanted
a
belly
band
added
to
the
rear
and
side
elevations
of
the
addition.
Since
it
was
two
stories
in
height,
they
wanted
the
the
roofing
material
labeled
so
that
it
would
match
the
existing
roofing
material.
G
G
They
wanted
to
remove
the
existing
second
floor,
bedroom
window
on
the
west
elevation
and
remove
the
shutters
from
all
of
the
windows,
and
originally
the
project
had
had
shutters
on
all
the
windows
and
the
editions
and
those,
and
so
all
of
these
recommendations
from
the
arc
have
been
implemented
in
the
project
that
is
before
you
right
now.
G
G
G
So
the
existing
home
has
five
bedrooms
and
three
bathrooms
and
is
currently
being
used
as
a
residential
care
facility
for
up
to
six
elderly
residents,
and
this
was
an
authorized
use
as
of
1996.
G
a
residential
care
facility.
The
maximum
occupancy
of
of
six
people
is
principally
permitted
in
a
residential
district.
No
use
permit
is
required
in
this.
What
their
the
proposed
edition
would
not
expand
that
use,
and
so
that's
that's
really
important
to
remember
that.
G
Now
it
is
an
odd
situation,
so
staff
in
con,
in
speaking
with
the
applicant,
they
have
their
residential
care
facility
business
that
they
run
out
of
the
existing
building
and
she
is
planning
on
moving
family
members,
including
her
mom,
into
the
into
the
addition
portion
of
it.
So
how
it
would
function
is
the
the
two
would
would
co-mingle
and
they
would
use
the
same
same
kitchen
and
staff
wasn't
aware
of
that
kind
of
situation.
G
G
This
should
go
a
long
way
in
addressing
their
concerns
with
whether
or
not
the
city
would
ex.
That
facility
would
expand
as
a
result
of
this
addition,
so
the
use
permit
that
they're
requesting,
as
I
said,
is
not
related
to
the
residential
care
facility,
but
it's
for
normal
use.
Permit
requirements
for
expansion
of
a
single
family
dwelling
once
again
it's
for
a
50
expansion
and
also
to
exceed
the
maximum
permitted
floor
area
by
350
square
feet
and
meet
and
exceed
the
maximum
permitted
lot
coverage
by
386
square
feet.
G
So
the
project
would
extend
about
18
feet.
Deep
is
what
I've
stated
earlier
and
that's
similar
in
depth
to
the
two
adjacent
buildings,
so
the
building
to
the
on
the
downhill
side,
which
is
to
the
left
if
you're
looking
at
the
pictures,
is
a
one-story
building,
but
it
does
have
an
addition
that
extends
out
the
back
approximately
the
same
depth
as
the
proposed
edition,
the
uphill
building,
which
was
the
building
on
the
right
into
the
west.
G
I
believe
that
building
has
a
similar,
two-story
addition
at
the
rear,
similar
to
what's
being
proposed
here
so
by
setting
the
addition
back
towards
the
rear
of
the
building,
you're
kind
of
maintaining
the
ranch
style,
architectural
design,
character
of
the
original
structure
as
as
viewed
from
the
street
and
overall.
So,
as
I
said,
the
building
exceeds
the
maximum
permitted
floor
area
and
it
would
be
a
0.61,
far
or
floor
area
ratio.
G
So
in
the
staff
report
I've
included
in
just
so.
You
know
the
maximum
permitted
by
the
code
is
0.55
and
so
again,
they're
proposing
0.61
and
I've
included
a
chart
in
the
staff
report,
which
looks
at
other
projects
which
were
approved
by
the
planning
commission
to
exceed
the
far
and
most
of
them
are
in
this
range
of
the
0.6,
and
so
for
that
reason
we
find
this
project
to
be
consistent
and
compatible
with
the
neighborhood
at
0.61.
G
The
proposed
windows
will
be
white,
vinyl
sliders
throughout
the
building
so
that
they
all
match
the
belly
band
has
been
added.
So
so
really,
we
feel
like
this
building.
This
proposal
does
comply
with
the
residential
design
guidelines
and,
and
lastly,
it
also
meets
the
res-
the
daylight
plane
requirements
of
the
residential
design
guidelines.
G
So
again
we
feel
like
this
is
compatible
with
the
neighborhood.
It
preserves
the
existing
buildings,
ranch
style
character.
G
It
is
similar
in
size
to
the
adjacent
buildings
as
far
as
its
form
in
depth
and
for
that
reason,
we're
recommending
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
use
permit
based
on
the
findings
in
the
staff
report,
one
through
six
and
conditions
of
approval
1-31
in
the
staff
report,
and
this
concludes
my
presentation,
I'm
available
for
any
questions
or
comments.
You
might
have.
B
Okay-
let's
see
I
I
just
wanted
to
let
madeline
know
that
my
video
has
been
turned
off
by
them
by
the
host,
which
is
fine
with
me,
because
I
don't
love
looking
at
my
own
face,
but
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that's
why
I'm
not
smiling
back
at
you,
okay,
great,
we'll
correct
that
and
care.
Okay.
Thank
you.
So
at
this
point,
do
any
of
the
commissioners
have
clarifying
questions
for
staff.
F
Yes,
there
is
a
room
at
the
I'm
drawing
number
a4,
there's
an
existing
bedroom.
On
the
first
floor,
the
northwest
corner
and
there's
no
window
shown.
I
thought
it
that
came
up
at
the
arc
meeting
that
a
window
needs
to
be
added
to
that
room.
You
know
by
code
rest
of
a
window
and
I
think
it
meant
re
relocating
the
the
closet
that
was
in
the
room.
F
So
that
was
one
point
I
do
I'm
not
sure
if
the
windows
on
the
front
elevation,
the
second
floor
have
been
enlarged.
They
still
look
very
small
to
me,
but
I
don't
have
the
the
previous
drawings
to
compare
with
and
last
but
not
least,
I
thought
at
the
arc
that
we
requested
the
removal
of
all
window
shutters.
G
That
is,
that
is
correct.
Let
me
see
so.
G
F
G
Okay
and
your
plan
still
have
shutters
on
them.
G
I
I
I
apologize,
I
think
you
might
have
the
wrong
plan.
Do
you
mind
if
I
share
them
with
you
sure.
G
Okay,
just
bringing
them
up
right
here
all
right.
Can
you
guys
see
that
yes,
yeah?
Okay?
So
I
I
apologize.
This
is
the
these
are
the
correct
set
of
plants,
so
you
can
see
the
windows
were
made
larger
yeah.
They.
F
G
And
then,
let's
see
here
going
to
the
rear
elevation,
the
all
this
all
the
shutters
have
been
removed,
good
and
then
I'll
go
to
the
side
elevations
as
well.
You
can
see
on
the
side
elevation
that
the
the
shutters
have
been
removed
as
well,
and
you
can
see
the
belly
band
there
as
well.
G
G
Yeah,
so
that's
what
we're
looking
at
right
here
so
there's
the
one
what
they
did
is
they
put
a
sliding
glass
door
in
that
bedroom,
where
they're,
where
we
asked
them
to
put
a
window.
G
So
I
I
I
apologize
again.
I
I
attached
the
wrong
set
of
plans
to
the
to
the
staff
report,
so
it's
easily
done.
G
Thank
you,
but
thank
you
for
asking,
and
I
was
glad
we
got
that
clarified.
B
Okay,
are
there
any
other
commissioners
that
have
clarifying
questions
for
staff.
J
Commissioner
b
sodi,
I
have
a
communication
question
for
staff.
If
I
may
michael
looking
at
this
property
now
that
I've
had
some
time
to
think
about
it,
moving
ahead
and
thinking
about
the
possibility
of
years
in
the
future,
this
building
being
used,
sold
and
used
as
a
residence
again,
how
would
that
rear
edition?
Look
as
if
they
were,
we
were
to
call
it
an
adu,
separate
it
off
and
would
that
work.
G
J
C
I
think
I
guess
I
have
a
follow-up
on
that
question.
If
I
may
yes,
in
order
for
this
to
be
an
adu,
it
looks
like
the
main
thing
you'd
be
doing
is
simply
sealing
up.
It's
that
seven
foot,
five
joint,
that's
in
the
the
picture
here,
but
that
would
leave
the
back
unit
with
no
kitchenette.
Wouldn't
it
it
would
have
bathroom
service,
but
no
kitchen.
So
in
order
to
be
a
proper
you
you
would
need
to,
you
know
either
convert
a
bedroom
into
a
kitchen
or
something
like
that.
Is
that
that's
correct.
B
If
I
can
jump
in
with
commissioner
harman
on
the
eudu
question,
is
it
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
an
adu
can
be
up
to
50
of
the
size
of
the
original
home?
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
this
would
exceed
that
or
am
I
am
I
drawing
from
the
wrong
sports.
G
The
adu's
rules
are
a
little
complicated,
but
I
believe
that
if
it's
two
bedrooms
or
more,
we
have
to
allow
up
to
a
thousand
square
feet
and
because
we're
we
don't
have
a
compliant
adu
ordinance
right
now,
so
we're
still
under
state
law
and
state
law
actually
allows
all
the
way
up
to
1200.
I
believe
square
feet.
G
B
G
But,
like
I
said,
staff
did
have
those
discussions
with
the
applicant
and
property
owner
and
so
feel
free
to
ask
them
if
you
want
further
clarification
on
why
they
didn't
pursue
that,
as
opposed
to
this
edition.
B
Okay
and
then
another
question:
is
I've
never
seen
a
project?
A
residential
project
come
before
us.
That
has
eight
bedrooms,
and
obviously
I
haven't
been
here
as
long
as
some
of
the
other
commissioners,
but
I
mean
it
really
is
significant
in
my
mind
and
an
eight
five
and
a
half
is
something
unusual
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
there's-
and
I
I
presume
you
would
tell
me
if
there
were
anything
in
our
general
plan
or
in
our
code-
that
has
any
guidance
or
restrictions
on
numbers
of
bedrooms.
G
There
isn't
there
isn't
anything,
our
code,
that
specifically
limits
bedrooms
the
way
our
code
works
is
mostly
to
limit
overall
size
of
buildings,
but
not
necessarily
interior
layout.
B
B
J
J
You
have
non-ambulatory
patients,
so
the
new
bedrooms
that
are
being
added
are
not
on
the
same
floor,
so
they
really
wouldn't
be
able
to
expand,
except
for
the
one
in
the
back,
but
you
really
wouldn't
be
able
to
use
this
as
increasing
the
size
of
the
business
just
because
of
the
nature
of
the
use
of
the
business
and
the
way
this
is
set
up.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
commented
on
that.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
I
think
that's
a
good
observation.
Any
more
clarifying
questions
for
staff.
B
Okay,
all
right,
in
that
case
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing
and
I'd
like
to
invite
the
applicant
to
present
the
project,
tell
us
a
little
about
themselves
and
and
what
their
plans
are.
Are
they
with
us.
G
Tonight,
yes,.
D
K
Hi
I'm
here,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
I
I
apologize.
K
I
was
late,
I
was
so
overwhelmed
with
getting
coveted
vaccination
and
I
really
really
forgot
about
the
meeting
after
reminding
mr
o'connor
this
morning,
but
anyway,
I
only
heard
some
of
the
comments
regarding
the
number
of
the
rooms
and
whether
the
business
would
be
increased
but,
as
I
have
mentioned
to
mr
michael
smith,
the
reason
why
I
am
adding
a
home,
an
extension
is
mainly
for
my
mother,
who
is
85
years
old
and
is
currently
residing
in
san
mateo
and
the
she
has
a
room
there.
K
It's
only
one
room
in
one
and
one
bath
and
it's
not
because
she
uses
a
wheelchair
and
a
walker.
It's
not
an
ada.
You
know
it
doesn't
meet
her
needs
and
the
reason
why
it's
you
know,
mr
smith,
had
asked
the
question:
why?
Why
does
my
mom
need
a
three
bedroom?
My
my
sister
is
the
primary
caretaker
for
her
and
then
the
other
room
would
be
basically
for
her
reliever
and
I,
and
it
would
also
be
used
as
an
office
for
for
the
homes,
because
we
have
a
total
of
five
homes
and
all
the
homes.
K
You
know
this
is
the
only
home
that
we
will
add
on
wherein
I
would
be
able
to
have
an
office
other
than
my
dining
table,
which
is
not
a
dining
table,
but
an
office
stable.
So
that's
the
reason
why
and
and
the
number
of
the
question
about
the
eight
bedrooms
and
five
and
a
half
bath
the
original.
The
care
home
has
three
bedrooms
that
are
that
are
for
the
clients.
Each
room
has
has
two
clients
and
then
the
two
staff
room,
the
two
staff
room-
are
actually
very
small
and
then
they
occupy
two.
K
You
know
the
one
room
is
for
the
female
staff
and
then
the
other
one
that
was
supposedly
my
office
became
a
male
staff,
and
so
that's
the
reason
why
it
looks
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
rooms,
but
actually
it's
you
know
it's
just
it's
just
the
number
of
rooms
that
would
meet
the
needs
of
the
people
and
then
the
question
about
increasing
the
number
of
the
clients.
We
were
not
it's
only
license
for
six
and
we
cannot
increase
it
to
to
any.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Does
the
commission
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant.
I
Miss
ryan.
I
just
want
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions.
There
was.
There
was
a
question
that
that
rose
earlier
about
the
adu
and
yeah
you
considered
applying
applying
for
this
as
an
adu
and
if
and
if
so,
and
if
not,
what
was
your
thinking
behind
it.
K
You
know
what
it
crossed
my
mind
in
the
beginning,
but
it
was
the
in
the
beginning.
It
was
very
small
and
then
and
then
the
fact
that
my
mom
is
disabled
and
then
it's
going
to
be
at
the
back.
I
feel
you
know
with
the
training
and
stuff
it
will
be
easier
to
have
an
access
for
the,
because
we
have
a
ramp
in
the
front
and
then
it
will
be
easier
for
her
just
to
go
through
all
the
way
to
the
back
and
then
the
staff
that
we
have
there.
K
I
I
think
that,
though
the
the
question,
the
thought
that
raises
thought
for
me
is
if
I
was
a
neighbor
and
there
were
eight
bedrooms
and
would
be
future
use,
I
have
been
in
many
board
and
care
homes.
Many
and
have
family
members
also
been
in
them,
but,
more
importantly,
I've
been
in
many
as
a
commissioner
and
the
one
thing
is
if
I
had
to
have
a
board
and
care
home
next
to
me,
I'd
rather
have
that
than
an
apartment
building,
and
it
really
is
a
pretty
low
key.
I
visit
many
people
in
them.
I
There
is
activity,
but
the
activity
is:
is
low-key,
it's
not
high
energy,
whereas
you
have
a
apartment,
building
of
eight
it's
much
more
much
more
energy,
but
as
a
neighbor
that
doesn't
understand
or
doesn't
have
that
experience
of
knowing
that
it
could
be,
my
goodness
if
she
decides
to
close
her
business
and
turn
this
into
into
rooming
a
rooming
house
or
a
just
rent
out
rooms
or
family
members,
renting
out
rooms,
there's
nothing
about
renting
out
rooms
to
family
members
as
well,
and
then
you're.
Looking
at
all
the
cars
you're.
K
Yes,
and-
and
I
just
want
to
let
you
know-
I've
had
my
other
home-
is
in
redwood
city
and
that
was
in
1986..
I
have
no
plan
to
sell
my
business
or
close
the
business
it
is.
K
It
is
basically
a
vocation
that
I
either
I
used
to
be
a
critical
care
nurse
and
when
I
quit
working
at
peninsula
hospital
as
a
critical
care
nurse,
I
work
full
time
with
taking
care
of
the
developmental
disabled
and
I
have
no
plans
of
selling
it
and
it's
actually
in
my
living
trust
that
even
my
children
cannot
sell
the
homes
that
it
would
function
as
a
care
home
for
the
for
the
developmental
disabled
because
they
really
need
home.
They
need
a
good
place.
They
need
a
good
home
to
take
care
of.
I
Them,
well,
you
know
miss
ryan.
I
admire
you
for
that
and,
and
I've
been
in
a
business
myself,
that
really
it's
a
it's
a
passion
and
it's
a
vocation
and
you're
correct
commissioner
harman
on
an
important
career.
I
use
the
wrong
terminology
on
that,
so
it
basically
would
be
if
you
wanted
to
rent
out
rooms.
Just
because
you
know
you
can
rent
out
a
room
in
your
own
home
and
I
think
that's
the
concern
that
I
see
neighbors
neighbors,
you
know
having
and
and
even
though
miss
ryan.
You
have
no
intention.
I
I
I
Sorry
and
then,
and
in
boarding
care
residential
homes,
they're
very
minimal,
in
in
in
parking,
I
mean
it's,
it's
really
the
best
use
of
space
without
having
a
lot
of
impact
to
the
community.
It
was
really
looking
at.
Should
you
at
one
point,
sell
them,
and-
and
I
promise
I
won't
well,
you
know
even
my
kids.
K
Even
my
kids
are
not
allowed
to
sell
them
I'll
be
coming
back
to
earth
if
I
I'll
hunt
them.
If
I
go
to
heaven
and
they
sell
them,
it's
against.
It's
really.
Not.
I
don't
know
it's
it's
just
my
principle
that
it
will
be.
I
have
a
legal
document,
it's
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
living
trust
and
then
that
it
stays
there
that
none
of
them
can
sell
the
properties
and
then-
and
then
you
know
it,
it
will
remain
as
a
as
a
care
home.
I
It's
mostly
looking
at
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors
and
asking
them
asking
the
right
questions
so
that
we
that
we
can
make
a
good
decision.
Thank
you
based
upon
that.
That's
really
the
intent
of
the
question
to
be
able
to
say
you
know.
I
looked
at
every
question
and
I
can
feel
good
about
my
outcome
decision
and
and
just
recognizing
that
an
eight
bedroom
home
five
and
a
half
baths
is,
is
it's
it's
huge,
it's
dense
and
and
as
a
residential
care
facility,
it
works
really
well.
B
G
Madeline
through
the
chairs-
yes,
please
madeline.
I
was
expecting
maybe
one
of
the
neighbors
to
show
up
and
I
see
a
number
of
phone
numbers
out
there.
Can
we
just
simply
ask
that
the
if
you're
in
the
public-
and
you
want
to
speak
on
this
item-
just
raise
your
hand.
B
L
I
did
leave
a
letter
with
michael
smith
a
couple
days
ago,
sharing
my
objection
to
the
plan
in
place,
and
I
think
you
have
a
copy
that
letter
before
you.
L
L
L
L
And
it
was
pointed
out
by
one
of
you,
the
the
lady
about
the
the
excesses
of
the
eight
rooms,
nine
rooms,
which
is
not
conducive
to
the
normalcy
of
what
the
neighborhood
is
like,
and
so
that
in
itself
is
a
a
bright
light
as
well,
and
also
the
point
made
was
who's
to
say
that,
even
though
it's
not
going
to
be
added
to
what
would
be
now
a
six-room
care
facility,
because
of
all
of
the
reasons
of
walls
that
are
now
still
in
place,
who's
to
say
that
the
walls
don't
change
and
as
well.
L
What
was
mentioned
too
was
the
fact
that
it
could
be
rooms
can
be
rented
out
and
so
forth,
and
so
on
so
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
disturbance
with
terms
in
terms
of
cars
and
so
forth.
L
Okay,
cottonwood
drive
as
an
intersex
with
carmel
court
is
a
very,
very
busy
corridor.
Cars
parked
on
both
sides
of
the
streets
on
both
of
these
streets.
We
now
have
a
pandemic
going
on
which
of
course
reduces
traffic
to
some
degree,
but
when
that's
over
with
it's
going
to
be
katie
bar
the
door
again,
because
people
come
down
that
street
to
get
to
280
on
the
freeway
et
cetera,
to
get
to
sneak
lane
and
and
so
forth.
L
So
those
who
live
in
the
area-
and
so
it
would
be
most
most
noisy
and
risky,
and
of
course
I
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
with
rollingwood
elementary
school
too.
If
that
opens
continues
to
be
a
school
who's
to
say
all
the
possibilities
so
I'll
leave.
I
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
address
it
a
little
bit
further.
Okay,.
B
Sure
madeline
do
we
have
anybody
else
with
their
hand
raised
who
would
like
to
speak?
Yes,
we
do.
B
Yes,
good
hi
eddie,
we
have
three
minutes
and
we
invite
you
to
share
your
thoughts
with
us.
M
Yeah
I
I
hear
that,
like
the
number
of
bedroom
is
actually
locked
in
the
room,
but
I
also
heard
that
that
particular
building
plan
exceeded
certain
existing
rule,
the
parameter-
I
do
not
know
the
detail,
but
this
is
like,
I
think
it's
at
least
two
like
the
total
number
of
area
of
the
razor
is
higher
than
the
permitted
it
is,
is
higher
than
the
permitted
allow
that
footage
or
the
razor.
M
So
I
just
want
to
know
like
should,
should
the
applicant
apply
to
the
rule
to
minimize
those
footage
like
why
there's
a
exception
that
they
can
have
more
than
those
allowed?
I
think
this
is
what
I
want
to
know.
B
B
Mr
legend,
did
you
have
any
any
further
comments
before
yeah.
M
I
think
I
think
in
general,
like
there's
concern
on
the
traffic
there's
concern
on
the
usage
they're
concerned
on
the
future
usage.
Maybe
like
the
sale
will
sell
it
or
maybe
there's
other
uncertainty,
but,
like
I
think
at
least
I
would
like
the
applicant
to
be
abide
to
the
rule.
That
is,
will
be
like
that's
privacy
concern
there's
also
other
concerns
so
yeah.
So
this
is
my
comment.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
me.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
lowe.
I
appreciate
your
you're
coming
and
sharing
your
concerns
tonight.
Madeline.
Do
we
have
anybody
else
who
would
like
to
share
no
okay?
Okay,
in
that
case,
let's
go
ahead
and.
B
All
right,
they
just
scooted
right
in
there
yeah,
let's
bring
them
in
and
invite
them
for
three
minutes
number.
B
Welcome
you
are
on,
we
invite
you,
we
would
love
to
hear
your
comments
and
we
have
about
three
minutes
on
the
clock
coming
up
right
now,
yep
and
we
would
love
to
hear
your
feedback.
N
Okay,
well,
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
I
am
a
neighbor.
I
live
about
two
houses
downhill
from
from
from
the
address
we
are
talking
about
2601,
so
I
am
actually
a
little
lower
than
than
the
first
that
than
the
the
house,
and
my
concern
is
the
size
of
the
the
size
of
the
height
of
this
addition.
N
Again,
as
one
of
the
other
neighbor
has
mentioned,
was
this
issue
of
privacy.
This
is
you
know
two
story
and
they're
actually
higher
than
me
already
so
again,
just
the
issue
of
lack
of
privacy
in
my
yard-
and
you
know,
and
also
just
just
the
size
just
listening
to
all
this.
Unfortunately,
I
don't
have
the
video,
so
I
couldn't
see
all
the
plans
or
what's
actually
being
proposed,
but
it's
just
sounds
so
massive.
N
An
average
house
is
unaltered
in
this
neighborhood.
It's
normally
a
three
bedroom
two
bath,
and
this
is
more
than
doubling
the
size.
So
again,
that's
my
concern
that
I
understand
what
the
current
use
is
again.
My
my
concern
would
be
in
the
future.
You
know
if
anything
may
change
at
some
point,
and
it's
just
that
you
know
with
with
more
rooms
with
more
people,
it's
just
just
the
size
of
it,
it's
just
so
out
of
context
with
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood,
so
that
that
was
just
my
concern.
N
B
Okay
madeline:
do
we
have
anybody
else
in
the
waiting?
No,
we
don't.
B
Okay,
I
guess
I
think
a
lot
of
what
the
the
folks
who
just
called
to
share
is
are
some
things
that
we
had
talked
about
previously,
but
it
seems
that
maybe
the
applicant
would
perhaps
we
should
give
the
applicant
an
opportunity
to
address
any
of
the
concerns
that
the
neighbors
have.
B
G
Hi
evelyn:
do
you
want
to
address
the
concerns.
K
Me,
yes,
oh
good,
no,
the
concerns
that
they
have
the
the
neighbor
my
neighbor
on.
If
you're
looking
at
the
house,
it's
on
the
right,
it's
on
the
right
side
of
the
home
and
the
addition
that
we
were
proposing
is
pretty
much
the
same
size
as
that
home,
and
then
there
are
also
other
homes
in
the
neighborhood
that
have
had
additions.
K
And
I
just
don't
know,
I
just
know
how
else
to
address
it.
I
mean
the
the
privacy
I
have
to
look
as
miss
toy's
house.
K
I
mean
I
well,
I
don't
have
the
plans
in
front
of
me
and
I
I
just
don't
know
how
to
address
the
privacy
issue,
okay,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
the
addition
that
we're
that
we
have
that
we're
asking
for
is
pretty
much
the
same
size
as
our
neighbor.
Next
I
mean
the
addition
the
second
floor,
the
height
of
it
is
pretty
much
the
same
height
as
that
as
as
our
neighbors.
K
B
I
Sure,
yes,
I
do
have
a
question
for
miss
ryan,
yes
or
so
I
jumped
in
a
little
bit
too
soon.
Actually
I
should
let
you
wait
to
finish
that
that
comment
that
I'm
awesome
no
go
ahead.
K
I
So
I
guess
my
question
would
be
to
staff,
because
if
it's
licensed
for
six,
you
have
a
person
moving
in
then
you're
living
there,
and
there
is
no
limit
how
many
step
family
members
you
can
have.
But
if
you're
running
I'm
just
proposing
a
question,
I
don't
know
I'm
not
making
a
judgment
on
this.
Just
clarification.
I
K
I
Yes,
I'm
just
trying
to
do
that:
fine
line
between
adding
another
elder
person
to
a
six
licensed
residential
home
and
adding
another
elder
as
it
to
a
seven
without
having
a
family
member.
Actually
that
lives
in
that
home.
Someone
who
actually
lives
there
as
their
home.
K
No,
my
sister
is
going
to
live
with
my
mom,
because
my
sister's,
the
primary
caretaker
of
my
mom
she's
right
now,
staying
in
in
in
san
mateo,
which
is
also
it's
probably
a
13
by
15
room
with
this
tiny
bathroom
that
you
know
the
the
door
is
only
29
inches
wide
yeah.
I
understand
yeah,
and
so
that's
the
reason.
K
Why
that's
the
reason
why
we
we
we
you
know
we
decided
to
do
the
audition
over
in
that
home,
because
it's
the
it's
the
only
place
that
has
that
has
land
and
then
before
we
before
we
did
the
we
decided
to
do
the
addition
we
have
asked
from
licensing.
If
we
are
allowed
to
do
so,
and
then
they
said
yes,
we
could.
I
I'm
just
looking
at
the
rationale
and
wanting
to
be
sure
that
I
understand
all
the
components
to
it
and
the
decision
comes
about.
I
just
want
to
look
at
all
the
angles
to
be
sure
that
I
haven't
left
the
stone
unturned.
From
my
perspective,
I
understand
so
so
from
you
from
from
what
I
understand
that,
after
the
addition
is
done,
your
mother
and
your
sister
will
be
living
there.
Yes,
so
your
sister
would
be
there
100
of
the
time
that
would
be
her
residence.
K
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
for
for
having
more
response.
I
think
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
madeline.
We
don't
have
anybody
else
who
would
like
to
comment.
D
B
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing,
and
would
a
commissioner
like
to
motion
to
close
the
public.
B
Okay,
thank
you
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
aye,
those
opposed
those
abstaining.
Okay,
thank
you.
Emotion
has
passed.
We
will
go
ahead
and
bring
the
discussion
back
to
the
commission.
G
Through
their
chair,
oh
go
ahead.
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
speak
really
briefly
to
commissioner
johnson's
comment
about
the
about
the
facility
and
having
her
mom
being
considered
a
patient.
So
that
is
something
that
came
up
during
my
conversations
with
the
licensing
board
and
the
applicant
is
correct.
They
did
not
have
any
issues
with
that.
G
I
I
just
want
to
comment
on
that
to
michael
you
know
you
can
give
someone,
you
don't
have
to
pay
to
be
a
client.
I
mean
people
can
give
you
a
free
place.
Yeah,
you
know
you're
still
attending
a
tenant
in
an
apartment.
You
don't
have
to
pay
rent
you're
still
a
tenant
right.
So
I
don't
know
that
I
I
I
think
that
I'm
coming
from
a
point
that
I'd
like
to
at
least
see
how
something
officially
in
writing,
that
licensing
validates
that
that
they
say
that
that's
permissible.
G
Okay,
would
that
be
something
that
you
would
want
before
you
make
a
decision,
or
is
it
a
condition
of
approval
condition.
I
Of
approval
yeah,
okay,
definitely
I
mean
I
would
not
stop
your
delay,
something
it
should
should
it
go
through.
I
wouldn't
want
it
delayed
for
that
reason,
but
I
definitely
use
the
condition
of
approval
before
it's
finalized
that
that
letter
would
have
an
official
letter
on
file-
and
you
know-
and
I
do
know-
that
the
fire
department
goes
through
on
not
always
annual
basis,
but
at
least
initially,
and
then
they
try
to
do
io,
but
it's
typically
not
and
to
look
at
all
the
components.
Things
are
in
compliance.
B
Thank
you.
Yes,
biasari.
J
Just
I'm
going
to
reiterate
these
questions
just
because
the
people
who
spoke
brought
these
issues
up,
so
they
were
commenting
on
the
usage
and
it's
seeming
like
more
than
what's
currently
going
on
in
the
neighborhood,
and
the
reason
I
addressed
adus
in
the
beginning
was
just
that
reason,
because
this
is
what's
this
size
of
building
is
what
is
allowed
now
because
of
adus
I
mean
this
is
what
potentially
could
be
done
throughout
the
neighborhood
and
that's
because
of
the
state
of
california,
rather
than
something
we're
doing
the
privacy
issues.
J
I
want
people
to
know
that
we
thought
about
the
privacy
issues
and
we
had
them
remove
if
I
remember
correctly
the
window
on
a
second-story
bedroom
that
was
facing
a
neighbor,
so
the
windows
on
the
addition
on
the
sides
at
least
will
be
non-existent.
The
one
window
that
does
exist
is
over
a
stairway,
so
it's
not
like
someone's
going
to
stand
and
stare
out
the
window,
so
I
mean
we
we
have
thought
of.
J
C
Yeah,
as
I
recall
through
the
chair
that
that
window,
it
is
above
the
line
of
sight
because
the
the
stairway
comes
down.
You
know
you
sort
of
come
and
so
you're
like
the
the
window,
is
up
at
above
head
level
in
there,
so
there
would
be
really
no
no
chance
of
people
observing
out
of
that.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
address
was:
I
know
there
was
some
concern
about.
Oh
and
an
eight-bedroom
house
is
massive,
but
you
know
a
bedroom
is
not
a
unit
of
area.
C
It's
not
like
a
square
foot,
it's
not
they're,
not
all
the
same
size
and
as
was
observed,
several
of
what
are
counted
as
bedrooms
in
here
are
very
small
staff
rooms,
and
so
I
mean
the
you
know
the
overall
floor
area
ratio
is
just
above
the
limit
where
it
triggers
our
discretionary
review,
but
we
grant
conditional
use
permits
for
buildings
with
similar
floor
area
ratios
I
mean
you
know:
I've
been
on
the
commission
just
over
a
year,
and
I
you
know,
I
think,
we've
done
you
know
at
least
half
a
dozen
of
these
they're
fairly
routine.
C
This
is
not
an
absurd
floor
area
compared
to
other
buildings
around
it.
It's
it's
really
pretty
comparable
and,
as
commissioner
via
sodi
noted,
you
know
if
they
did
this
as
an
adu,
it
wouldn't
even
be
really
so
much
a
discretionary
thing.
They'd
just
be
building
an
adu
and
it
would
fall
under
the
state
laws.
C
So
you
know
it's
a
big
house,
but
even
if
it
were
sold
into
another
market,
there
are
people
that
need
big
houses.
My
mother
was
the
oldest
of
eight
children.
I'm
the
fourth
of
five
children
myself
and
you
know
there
are
families
that
need
big
houses,
and
you
know
this.
This
house
has
a
a
large
driveway
that
can
fit
up
to
six
cars
by
my
estimate.
Just
looking
at
it
on
on
google
street
view,
it
has
a
two-car
garage.
C
C
So
I
do
think
you
know.
I
understand
people's
concerns
hearing
eight
bedroom,
but
I
think
the
the
building
as
a
whole.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
saleable
to
somebody
in
the
future.
If
it
did
need
to
be
sold,
the
business
is
regulated.
You
know,
you
can't
just
start
renting
out
every
room.
I
think
we
have
regulations
on
how
many
rooms
you're
allowed.
You
know
if
you,
if
you
bought
it
and
moved
into
it
as
a
resident
and
wanted
to
rent
out
rooms.
I
think
is
it
two?
You
can
only
rent
out
two
rooms.
G
I
believe
that's
correct,
yeah
boarding
to
be
considered
a
boarding
house
or
a
rooming
house
yeah.
C
So
I
mean
they
just:
it
cannot
legally
be
used
in
the
style
of
just
like
an
apartment
building
in
an
r1
neighborhood,
that's
illegal!
So
like
that's,
not
a
thing
that
would
happen,
I
mean
if
it
did,
you
would
report
them
and
they
get
shut
down
so
yeah.
I
do
understand
why
people
are
concerned,
but
we
have
protections
in
place
to
deal
with
that
with
with
licensing
and
zoning
already
and-
and
I
I
feel
quite
comfortable
approving
this-
I'm
happy
to
make
the
motion
if
other
folks
are
done.
I
have.
I
One
other
comment:
if
you
can,
when
there
was
discussion
about
the
windows
and
being
over
the
near
the
stairs,
there
are
windows
that
can
be
brought
down
and
still
someone
not
looking
over
but
brought
down
where
you're.
Actually,
you
know
those
long
windows,
I'm
concerned
that
we
there's
a
room
there
without
a
window
except
near
the
stairs.
Now
I
need
to
look
at
it
more
carefully,
but
just
I'm
hearing
one
of
the
commissioners
speak
to
that.
G
Yeah,
I'm
gonna
share
the
plans
again
just
so
we
are
speaking
from
the
same.
I
I
C
I
B
I
G
B
Okay,
yeah
it's
more
of
a
passageway
window
than
a
a
stay
in
peak
window.
I
think
conceivably.
Somebody
could
stand
in
that
lower
right
hand,
corner
of
the
window
and
turn
their
head
to
look
out,
but
it's
not
the
same
as
scratching.
It's
a
stretch,
yeah
yeah
and
I
think
making
that
window
any
smaller,
wouldn't
be
very
appealing
on
that
elevation.
I
B
Conversation,
oh
and
then
just
just
to
clarify
to
address
the
concern
of
the
neighbor
who
had
said
that
the
view
was
the
view
was
a
concern
to
them.
I
know
that
we
in
san
bruno
do
not
have
a
view
ordinance,
meaning
that,
just
because
a
proposed
project
would
alter
your
view,
it
does
not
as
long
as
it
meets
specific
work
requirements.
It's
still
something
that
we
that
we
consider
we
can't.
We
can't
turn
down
a
project
because
it
impedes
somebody's
view
correct.
C
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
use:
permit
20-002,
based
on
findings,
one
to
six
and
conditions
of
approval
1-31,
with
the
addition
of
a
30-second
condition,
as
commissioner
johnson
suggested
just
that
we
get
a
written
statement
about
the
the
status
of
the
permitting.
D
B
In
deciding
right
now,
I
I
feel
conflicted
about
the
size
and
the
potential
future
use
and
the
the
massing
is
less
concerning
to
me,
but
future
use
and
yeah.
I
feel
a
little
conflicted
about,
so
I'm
going
to
abstain.
I
B
The
motion
passes-
let's
see
here.
Where
are
we?
B
Oh
there's
a
10-day
appeal
period
and
thank
you
for
coming
tonight
and
the
very
best
of
luck
on
your
project
and
then
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
item
b
4b,
which
is
3041,
fleetwood
drive
and
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
staff
report
again
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
G
Michael
all
right,
thank
you.
This
is
the
request
for
a
use
permit
to
construct
a
1273
square
foot
residential
edition
that
would
enlarge
the
existing
home
by
more
than
50
percent
of
the
existing
floor
area.
If
approved,
the
house
would
be
2795
gross
square
feet
and
that's
including
the
attached
two-car
garage,
the
subject.
Property
is
located
on
fleetwood
drive
and
the
rolling
wood
2
neighborhood
between
evergreen
and
cottonwood
drives.
G
The
subject:
lot
measures
eight
thousand
fifty
square
feet:
that's
fifty
seven
and
a
half
feet
in
width
by
140
feet
in
depth
and
is
currently
improved
with
an
existing
single
family
home
with
a
carport.
There
is
a
10
foot,
public
utility
easement,
located
right
behind
the
addition,
and
there
is
also
further
back
in
the
rear
yard.
There
is
a
20-foot
tree,
planting
easement
in
the
very
yard.
G
The
the
development
would
not
encroach
upon
either
easement
and
there
is
also
a
heritage
pine
tree
located
near
the
rear
property
line.
That
would
not
be
impacted
by
the
project.
G
G
The
exterior
color
and
finishes
are
proposed
to
be
earth-toned
a
mix
of
beiges
and
browns,
with
dark,
dark
gray,
colored
asphalt,
shingle
roofing
and
a
dark
brown
colored
front
door
and
a
dark
brown
vinyl
windows
and
a
brown
fiberglass
garage
doors.
G
The
neighborhood
is
defined
by
similar
post
mid-century
buildings
that
have
a
ranch-style
l-shaped
plan
with
the
recess
garage
within
the
l.
However,
there
are
many
of
these
homes
that
did
not
have
the
l-shaped
plan
with
the
recess
garage.
G
The
proposed
building,
as
I
said,
would
be
finished
and
stuck
stucco,
which
is
a
common
material.
That's
already
found
in
the
neighborhood,
so
it
is
consistent
with
with
the
residential
design
guidelines
from
that
perspective,
and
the
project
would
overall
comply
with
the
lot
coverage
floor
area,
height
setbacks
and
requirements
of
the
code.
G
So,
therefore,
staff
is
recommending
that
the
the
planning
commission
approve
the
project.
Oh,
and
I
also
want
to
mention
that,
even
though
the
garage
is
being
built,
the
driveway
would
still
maintain
a
depth
for
at
least
two
cars
side
by
side.
That
is
so
anyway.
Staff
is
recommending
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
project.
We
think
that
the
removal
of
the
carport
would
be
a
great
improvement
to
the
property's
appearance
and
also
as
part
of
the
conditions
of
approval.
G
The
project
would
be
re-landscaped,
which
would
be
a
big
improvement
as
as
well
to
the
property,
and
so
for
this
reason
we
are
recommending
that
you
approve
it
based
upon
findings,
one
through
six
and
the
staff
report
and
conditions
of
approval
1-31
and
in
the
staff
report,
and
I
did
forget
to
mention
that
we
did
send
out
notices
to
300-foot
radius
and
staff,
did
not
receive
any
correspondence
from
the
neighbors
on
this
project.
C
B
B
E
Absolutely
like
I
did
in
the
the
november
meeting
we
had
together
during
the
covet
19,
we
kind
of
realized
that
we're
a
little
too
close
to
each
other.
I
need
a
little
more
space
working
that
both
was
working
from
home.
I'm
working
actually
on
my
table
right
now
doing
this
meeting
and
the
kids
in
the
rooms
are
no
more
space
left
for
a
desk
or
a
table,
or
anything
like
that
so
and
stocking
up
groceries
like
everybody
else,
did
we
had
nowhere
to
put
the
groceries
anymore
at
least
garage?
E
You
have
a
pantry
in
there.
Let
me
park
your
cars
in
there
and
put
you
know
costco
supplies
in
there.
I
don't
even
have
room
for
that.
Actually,
we
have,
you
know,
groceries
and
stuff
still
in
the
living
room
on
a
six
foot
table
trying
to
go
through
all
of
it
right
now,
but
having
the
kids,
you
know
growing
up
in
here
in
the
san
bernardino
neighborhood.
E
We,
like
the
schools
over
here,
didn't
want
to
move
out
anywhere
wanted
to
continue
living
in
san
bernardino,
like
I
did
when
I
was
a
kid,
went
to
other
public
schools
in
san
bernardino
and
left
for
the
military
and
came
back
to
san
bruno,
so
she's,
just
no
70
degree
weather
in
january.
Where
else
we're
going
to
find
that
besides
florida
right
and
play
golf
all
year
around
here,
and
so
we
want
to
keep
our
kids
here
in
san
bruno
and
go
to
college
over
here
and
they're
going
to
continue
living
with
us.
E
For
you
know,
maybe
next
seven,
eight
years
or
whatever
it
is,
so
they
need
their
space
of
studying
and
learning.
What
might
be.
The
new
way
of
learning
is:
go
to
new
york
state
or
something
and
go
live
in
california
and
still
go
to
online
school
and
get
a
degree
out
of
new
york,
never
attended
school
right.
E
E
E
All
the
consultants
is
to
get
the
usage
down,
so
I
am
looking
to
making
this
house
green
as
possible,
and
my
architect
steven
was
online
too,
and
he
actually
had
all
the
great
ideas,
for
you
know:
natural
lights
coming
in
the
window,
size
and
and
all
the
other
stuff
to
make
the
house
comfort
level
good,
reduce
the
gas
utility
bill
right
now
the
furnace
is
going
off
the
hook,
so
the
house
needs
to
be
insulated
very
well.
E
B
Thank
you,
mr
shinkai.
Do
any
commissioners
have
a
question
for
the
applicant
okay?
In
that
case,
we
can
go
ahead
and
check
in
to
see
if
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
comment.
B
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
there's
nobody
who'd
like
to
speak
on
the
the
subject,
so
I
think
that
we
can
probably
go
ahead
and
close
public
comment
and
bring
it
back
to
the
commission
for
discussion.
Would
anybody
like
to
motion
to
close
public
comment.
I
B
F
H
Yeah
commissioner
madden
just
a
question
for
the
people
who
are
at
the
arc
meeting
was
any
discussion
about
the
roof
brought
up.
It
seems
like
it's
quite
massive
compared
to
the
house
very
tall,
just
a
slight
concern.
Was
there
any
discussion
about
the
appearance
of
that
and
the
the
height
of
it
relative
to
the
main
house.
B
I
even
though
I'm
not
listed
in
the
in
the
notes
as
having
attended
the
arc
meeting,
I'm
pretty
sure
I
was
there
and,
as
I
recall,
there
was
some
discussion
about
the
roof
and
the
reason
for
the
the
elevated
roof
compared
to
how
it
had
been
before.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
was
to.
B
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
a
vaulted
ceiling
or
if
it
was
to
capture
more
light
with
the
skylights.
I
don't
know
if
staff
recalls
from
the
notes
on
the
meeting.
H
H
C
My
recollection,
I
might
we
could
pull
in
the
architect
to
answer
this.
My
recollection
is
that
they're
creating
an
attic
space
that
will
be
usable
for
you
know,
dealing
with
electrical
wiring
and
whatnot.
You
know
that
there's
both
going
to
be
the
skylights
with
with
sort
of
tubular
skylights,
bringing
natural
light
in
and
then
space
to
have
wiring
underneath
the
roof
for
solar.
That's
my
recollection,
but
I
imagine
the
architect
could
answer
that
for
us.
B
Yeah,
shall
we
is
it
too
late
to
bring
the
architect
in
to
ask
a
question.
G
Yeah,
so
the
architect
is
steve
wu
and
the
applicant
is
samit.
Can
you
let
them
in
madeline.
B
Hi,
yes
steve,
we
were
wondering
if
you
could
speak
about
the
the
massing
of
the
roof
and
the
breaks
in
the
roof
and
the
purpose
of
the
pitch.
N
Yes,
the
pitch
is
really
to
bring
it
up
to
just
high
enough
for
an
attic
space.
I
guess
basically
along
the
tops
of
the
bedroom
side
of
the
house
and
as
a
result
of
the
width
of
the
house,
just
the
basic
geometries
of
that
slope
ends
up
being
that
taller
taller
roof
line.
We
were
obviously
concerned
about
that
in
the
very
beginning
and
as
a
result,
we
did
push
it
back.
N
So
if
you
look
at
the
side
elevation,
the
highest
point
of
the
roof
is
back
toward
the
rear
of
the
house,
so
it's
furthest
away
from
the
street
as
we
could
make
it,
and
so
obviously
in
a
2d
drawing
it
looks
quite
massive
from
the
front.
But
then
you
know
in
in
3d
which
you
you
don't
actually
see,
but
hopefully
you
can
see
it
in
the
in
the
side.
Elevation
that
the
highest
point
of
the
roof
is
further
back
from
the
street
more
toward
the
last
two
thirds
of
the
house
toward
the
rear.
H
Okay-
and
I
noticed
it's
an
asphalt,
shingle
roof
so
that
I
guess
obviously
that's
pretty
common
in
the
neighborhood.
So,
okay,
one
other
question
it
looked
like
you
had
two
bathrooms
right
at
the
front
of
the
house.
Is
that
just
like
a
separating
room
like
a
toilet
room
separate
from
the
shower.
N
Room
or
yes,
yes,
sorry,
it's!
I
didn't
actually
draw
the
the
fixtures
in
there,
because
we
we
haven't,
really
figured
out
how
we
want
that
to
be,
but
indeed
the
smaller
part
of
that
bathroom
is
a
kind
of
a
wet
room.
It's
a
toilet,
slash
shower
room
where.
D
B
Okay,
is
there
a
second
thank
you,
mary
lou,
let's
go
ahead
and
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Please
madeline.
D
B
Right,
thank
you.
You're
there's
a
10
day
appeal
period
and
very
thank
you
for
coming
in,
and
thank
you
for
for
being
here,
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
great
improvement
for
your
home
and
for
the
for
your
little
neighborhood
up
there.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
great
project
so
best
of
luck
on
that.
A
Good
evening,
mr
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
community
planning
commission,
the
first
item
on
item
number
five
is
the
annual
election
of
the
planning
commission
chair
and
the
vice
chair.
Before
we
proceed
with
the
procedure,
I
just
want
to
thank
chairlifting
for
doing
such
a
great
job
transition
us
from
our
face-to-face
planning
commission
to
covet
and
carry
on
the
planning,
commission
and
public
hearing
as
normal
as,
if
we're
still
in
a
community
center,
and
then
with
your
gavel.
A
I
really
want
to
thank
you
and
also
vice
chair
for
caring
and
not,
I
mean
apologize
for
not
being
able
to
have
a
monthly
meeting
during
2020,
but
I
think
you
know
looking
back,
we
did
pretty
good.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you.
Moving
forward,
2021
is
going
to
be
a
very
exciting
year.
We
have
a
lot
of
projects
lined
up
for
you
to
consider
big
projects
that
the
city
has
yet
to
see.
A
It
is
important
to
have
a
planning,
commission,
cheer
and
also
vice
chair,
to
carry
out
these
works.
I
wanted
to
kind
of
highlight
a
few
items
ahead
for
this
year
to
consider
on
february,
26
23rd.
Sorry,
my
days
are
a
little
blurry.
We
will
be
taking
the
planning
commission
annual
presentation
to
city
council
for
consideration
in
february
regular
meeting.
The
planning
commission
will
be
to
be
taking
public
comments
for
the
bay
health,
specific
plan,
draft
eir
and
the
specific
plan
and
the
whole
nine
yard.
A
I
wish
you
probably
have
read
the
3
000
pages
right
now,
we're
also
bringing
forward
to
you
the
zoning
code
update,
namely
we're
only
touching
about
15
chapters
of
the
entire
zoning
code,
and
we
have
another
three
to
five:
exciting
entitlement
projects
lined
up
hotels,
condos
townhouses,
you
name
it
and
towards
the
end
of
this
year,
we'll
be
launching
our
housing
element,
update,
there's
a
lot
going
on,
so
without
further
solicitation.
I
will
want
to
turn
to
planning
commission
to
see
if
there
is
a
nomination
for
planning
commission
cheer
for
next
year.
B
I
know
that
in
the
past,
it's
most
common
for
for
a
vice
chair
to
step
into
the
chair
position
and
I
think,
considering
the
the
size
and
complexity
of
the
projects
that
are
coming
before
us.
It
may
make
sense
to
have
a
seasoned,
a
seasoned
commissioner
serve
in
that
capacity,
but
also
maybe
bring
on
a
vice
chair,
that's
under
their
wing.
That
would
be
new
and
would
be
a
great
learning
opportunity.
I
think
if
that
were
the
case.
Well,
how
about
this
I
would.
B
I
would
like
to
nominate
rick
the
assadi
to
to
be
chair,
but
would
also
want
to
encourage
others
to
put
in
their
nominations
and
consider
vice
chair
as
well.
J
A
I
B
I
I
would
really
like
to
see
a
somebody
has
not
had
the
opportunity
to
serve
in
that
capacity
to
serve.
I
would
I
would
prefer
not
to
to
serve
that
way,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
the
nomination.
F
H
H
A
A
Moving
on
to
the
next
item,
I
want
to
take
a
poll
of
a
potential
february,
2nd
planning
commission
meeting.
As
you
will
remember,
we
have
amended
our
bylaws
to
have
one
meeting
a
month,
so
normally
our
planning
commission
regularly
scheduled
meetings,
falls
on
the
third
tuesday
of
the
month.
A
However,
there's
like,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
a
lot
of
projects
coming
through
we're
we're
interested
to
find
out.
If
all
of
you
are
available
for
a
february,
2nd
a
special
meeting
and
this
meeting
will
be
dedicated
to
the
zoning
code
update
only
I
am
hearing,
I'm
seeing
heads
nodding
thumbs
up.
Can
I
see
anyone
who
cannot
make
it?
H
I
I
don't
know
for
sure
I
I
have
a
tentatively
scheduled
trip
to
oregon.
I
have
to
go
look
at
a
building
okay
in
the
first
week
of
february,
so
I
will
try
to
schedule
it
sometime
after
the
second,
so
I
can
make
the
meeting,
but
I
I
won't
know
for
sure,
but
if
there's
okay,
if
it's
still
okay,
to
have
enough
commissioners
to
hold
the
hearing
by
all
means,
don't
don't
change
it
because
of
me.
A
Understood
I
think
we
will
still
have
conf
five
confirmations,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
proceed
as
as
it
is,
and
then
hopefully
you
can
make
arrangement
and
join
us
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
got
the
date
on
february
2nd.
A
I
would
like
to
understand
from
the
commission
if
there
is
an
interest
to
move
the
meeting
time
up
to
five
o'clock
or
5
30
to
six.
I
think
we
used
to
start
at
seven
because
commute
and
other
reason,
so
I
want
to
kind
of
toss
this
out
there
to
see.
If
there's
any
discussion,
the
commission
would
like
to
have.
N
C
I
promise
she's
she's,
not
I
do
have
a
white
lap
cat,
but
I'm
not
a
super
villain.
Sorry,
I'm
strongly
in
favor
of
keeping
the
7
pm
time
my
day
job.
I
I
don't
get
off
my
I'm
on
a
support
hotline
and
my
that
doesn't
end
until
6..
So
I
I
like,
I
literally
can't
come
to
a
meeting
before
6
without
making
special
arrangements
with
my
job.
A
That's
fine
all
right
any
other
feedback.
I
I
have
flexibility
within
my
schedule,
but
recognizing
that
that
commissioner
hartman
has
challenges.
I
I
I
understand
that.
A
Anyone
so
it
sounds
like
a
seven
o'clock,
is
amenable
to
all
the
commissioners,
so
we'll
keep
seven
o'clock
for
the
second
and
also
the
remainder
of
the
meeting.
I
do
want
to
prophesize
that
we
may
want
to
move
up
the
time
just
slightly
for
the
bay
hill
specific
plan
that
we
can
talk
about
at
the
next
meeting.
Just
in
case
we
get
a
a
large
group
of
people
who
want
to
come
in
and
speak
three
minutes
of
person
times,
so
that
kind
of
goes
on
a
while.
A
C
I'll
just
also
note
that
for
the
bay
hill
meeting,
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
my
schedule,
because
I'm
recused,
due
to
financial
connection
being
married
to
a
googler.
A
Yeah
good
point,
thank
you
all
right.
So
this
third
item,
as
I
mentioned,
we
will
be
going
to
city
council
for
the
annual
presentation,
front,
planning,
commission
and
that's
tendedly
scheduled
for
february
23rd,
michael
smith,
and
myself
will
be
working
directly
with
chair
b
asadi
to
go
through
the
presentation.
The
former
cheerleading
has
has
done
this
before.
So
it's
it's
a
pretty
easy
exercise,
and
now
we're
doing
this
on
zoom,
it's
even
simpler,
so
we'll
have
a
format
for
you
to
review.
J
A
Next
one
is
really
the
kind
of
housekeeping
logistics.
At
the
end
of
the
last
year,
I've
sent
out
a
series
of
new
public
hearing
calendars,
updated
confidential
and
as
well
as
public
information
for
the
commissioners
and
also
conflict-to-interest
maps.
There's
one
correction:
the
november
architectural
review
meeting
coincides
with
the
b-pack
meeting
so
when
the
time
gets
closed,
I'll
make
announcements
of
what
architectural
review
committee
is.
A
I
mean
it's
so
far
away
right
now,
but
after
I
release
that
everyone's
probably
inundated
with
emails,
so
we'll
just
wait
until
that
time
comes
around
any
questions
on
the
information
I
send
out.
A
No
all
right
moving
along
the
city
council
was
planning
on
selecting
the
2021
planning
commission
liaison,
it
hasn't
happened
yet
it
may
happen
either
next
tuesday
or
the
week
or
two
the
next
meeting
after
next
tuesday.
So
when
that
happens,
I
will
report
back
to
planning
commission
as
of
this
moment
vice
mayor
marty.
Medina
remains
to
be
our
planning
commission
liaison
until
a
new
rotation
has
been
designated
or
with
that
kind
of.
A
I
don't,
oh
sorry,
I'm
not
speaking
for
a
chair,
but
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
this
is
something
that
city
council
has
full
discretion
and
part
of
the
reason
is
because
we've
lost
council
member,
laura
davis,
so
somebody
needs
to
backfill
her
position
her
capacity
and
also
bring
new
council
member
tom
hamilton
into
the
new
capacity
and
it's
natural
to
do
the
kind
of
a
shuffling
of
all
the
committees,
and
that's
not
just
this
city-wide,
it's
actually
a
county-wide
organization
and
also
participation.
A
I
A
Okay,
so
we'll
put
you
as
backup,
commissioner
johnson.
C
Yeah
I'll
say
I
am
available.
I
did
serve
on
the
most
recent
one,
so
I
would
sort
of
prefer
to
have
that
night
off.
But
if
we
need
somebody
I
would
it
doesn't
have
any
specific
conflict
in
my
schedule.
Right
now,.
N
I
A
B
A
You
all
right,
so
I
have
commissioner
madden
cheer
up
yosari
and
also
possibly
between
commissioner
hartman
or
commissioner
lithin.
C
B
Sure
sure
I'd
be
happy
to
okay.
Where
are
we-
and
I
have
my
cheat
sheet
item
six
second
public
comment:
if
there
is
anybody
in
the
public
who
would
like
to
speak
on
an
item,
that's
not
on
the
agenda!
This
is
your
opportunity
to
spend
three
minutes
talking
to
us
about
that.
B
Okay,
in
that
case,
we
can
go
on
to
items
from
members
and
subcommittee
reports.
Is
there
a
commissioner
a
commissioner
that
has
any
pertinent
news
or
information
they'd
like
to
share.
B
Okay,
in
that
case,
the
next
planning
commission
meeting
will
be
held
on
february
16th
at
7
pm
check
the
city's
website
for
details
about
that
meetings.
Format
as
they
become
available.
The
time
is
8
44
p.m,
and
we
are
now
adjourned.
Thank
you.
So
much.