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B
We've
we've
heard
from
brian
miller
in
some
previous
meeting.
I
think
that
name
is
familiar.
Yes,
he's
been
yeah
he's
done,
work
for
the
city.
B
B
A
B
B
We
are,
we
are
down
mary
lou
in
australia
and
down
rick
dealing
with
the
fire
south
of
san
carlos,
but
we
are
at
quorum.
So
thank
you,
everyone
for
attending
the
planning
commission
meeting
this
evening.
The
plan
commission
will
continue
to
hold
meetings
remotely
via
zoom
until
such
time
as
it
is
determined
that
it
is
safe
to
meet
in
person.
B
B
When
it
is
your
turn
to
speak,
the
planning
staff
will
call
your
name
and
unmute
you
and
you
will
receive
three
minutes
to
address
the
commission.
If
you
are
joining
us
by
telephone.
You
may
also
address
the
commission
during
public
comment
by
pressing
star,
9
and
staff
will
address
and
unmute
you
probably
by
your
phone
number.
B
B
Thank
you,
madeline
all
right
item.
Two,
our
roll
sorry
rule
call
three
pledge
of
allegiance.
Commissioner
elephant,
would
you
care
to
lead
us
in
the
pledge
this
evening.
A
B
I
am
for
approval
of
minutes.
Do
we
have
any
concerns
or
corrections
with
our
minutes.
B
Thank
you
all
right
at
this
time
we
have
an
opportunity
for
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
agenda.
If
there
is
anyone
in
our
audience
who
wishes
to
address
the
commission
on
an
issue
not
on
the
agenda,
please
raise
your
hand
at
this
time.
B
All
right
do
we
have
any
announcements
of
conflict
of
interest
this
evening.
B
C
So
good
evening,
chair
harmon
and
members
of
the
planning
commission,
michael
smith,
planning
department
staff
tonight,
I
will
be
presenting
for
your
consideration.
660
el
camino
real.
This
is
a
temporary
use,
permit
request
for
a
covid
testing
site.
C
The
sublet
subject:
lot
measures
4086
square
feet
and
is
currently
vacant,
and
it's
you
can
see
it
there
on
the
map
with
the
white
arrow.
C
C
The
facility
serves
up
to
25
customers
per
day
with
two
customers
scheduled
at
most
per
every
15
minute
time
slot
throughout
two
business
hours.
Most
testing
is
done
by
appointment,
but
walk-ins
can
be
accommodated
on
high-volume
days.
Customers
queue
within
the
site,
as
shown
in
the
site
plan
attached
to
the
staff
report.
C
C
C
Since
the
use
has
really
operated
on
the
site
since
often
on
since
may,
2021
staff
has
a
lot
of
information
about
the
businesses
daily
operations
and
the
only
detriment
of
the
community
that
has
been
observed
during
that
period.
Is
the
traffic
cueing
on
local
streets
during
the
holidays
of
2021,
the
facility
experienced
a
steep
increase
in
customers,
as
the
region
experienced
a
surge
in
copenhagen
cases,
coupled
with
the
public's
desire
to
congregate
for
the
holidays.
C
The
facility
was
not
prepared
for
the
sudden
increase
in
customers,
which
resulted
in
significant
traffic
cueing
on
el
camino,
real
and
angus
avenue,
for
which
the
city
received
a
number
of
complaints,
city
and
police
staff
worked
with
the
applicant
to
address
the
traffic
cueing
issue,
which
resulted
in
some
customers
being
turned
away
for
service
and
traffic.
Cueing
has
not
been
an
issue
since
the
customer
spiked
during
the
holidays.
C
There's
also
a
condition
of
approval
number
15
that
is
attached
for
your
consideration
also
addresses
the
traffic
cueing
should
it
arise
in
the
future,
since
we
can't
really
predict
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
pandemic,
public
notices
were
mailed
for
this
meeting
and
no
comments
have
been
received,
temporary
use
for
a
site
that
would
otherwise
be
vacant,
so
these
are
so.
These
are
some
of
the
reasons
we
think
they
would
actually,
while
we're
recommending
approval,
it's
a
temporary
use
for
a
site
that
would
otherwise
be
vacant.
C
There's
a
low
intensity
use
under
normal
business
conditions,
and
then
the
need
is
actually
there's
a
need
for
this
service
in
the
community,
especially
for
those
without
health
insurance,
since
onpoint
does
take
people
without
health
insurance.
C
So
this
is
concluding.
My
presentation
on
the
item.
Staff
is
recommending
approval
based
on
findings,
one
through
three
and
the
staff
report
and
conditions
of
approval,
one
through
fifteen
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
B
And
do
we
that's
we're
just
hearing
from
you?
The
the
applicant
on
point
is
is
not
themselves
presenting
this
evening.
C
We
do
have
courtney,
is
here
representing
onpoint
and
so.
B
Yep
yeah,
it's
showing
the
the
slot.
Like
not
the
presentation
view
it's
showing
the
design
view,
but
we
can
see
it.
D
D
D
Okay,
so,
as
michael
stated,
we're
requesting
the
temporary
use
permit
from
the
planning
commission,
so
our
corporation
was
formed
in
2021.
We
operate
in
florida,
colorado,
arizona,
utah,
washington,
oregon
and
california.
D
We
have
a
total
of
about
27
or
sorry
28
sites
throughout
these
seven
states,
but
the
majority
are
actually
here
in
california,
heavily
focused
in
the
bay
area
and
san
bruno
was
actually
one
of
our
first
sites
that
we
started
operating
in.
D
We
provide
three
different
types
of
tests
that
suit
the
public
needs,
so
we
have
the
antigen
test
which
results
in
30
minutes
or
less.
This
is
very
popular
for
and
the
customers
who
just
need
a
result
to
know
you
know
have
a
con
contract
covered
something
along
those
lines.
Some
travel
companies
do
accept
those
but
often
times
not
so
much
pcr,
as
you
all
know,
is
that
gold
standard
test
that
we
also
offer
results
in
48
to
72
hours
and
then.
D
Lastly,
we
offer
this
new
test,
the
molecular
diagnostic
and
that's
in
five
hours
or
less,
and
it's
actually
accepted
by
almost
every
venue
of
travel.
I
think
there's
only
a
few
international
airlines
that
do
not
accept
it,
so
we
do
offer
a
wide
variety
of
tests
for
a
wide
variety
of
customers,
depending
on.
If
you
just
need
a
test
for
yourself
at
a
price
point
of
69.
D
antigen,
going
all
the
way
up
to
149
at
the
pcr.
So
it's
reasonably
priced
and,
like
michael
said,
we
do
service
anyone,
so
whether
you
have
insurance
or
not,
we
can
get
you
tested
and,
as
you
said
before,
covet
has
started
to
decline,
but
that
also
means
testing
sites
have
closed
and
they
still
need
to
be
tested.
D
So
we
offer
that
to
the
community
of
san
bruno
and
allow
anyone
who
needs
that
test
that
may
not
have
been
able
to
get
one,
because
you
know
government
sites
are
closing
or
other
free
sized
pop-up
sites
like
ourselves
are
closing,
so
we
do
still
offer
that
for
the
community
of
san
bruno
now
I
know
in
the
past
we
did
have
a
seasonal
spike
during
the
holidays,
where
our
traffic
had
cued
and,
as
stated
before,
we
weren't
we
weren't
prepared
for
that
spike.
D
So
if
we
do
have
that
higher
volume
of
traffic,
we'll
we'll
split
into
those
two
lines
and
go
through
the
canopies,
if
anybody
starts
blocking
traffic,
when
we
do
have
five
parking
spots,
that
we
can
ask
them
to
park
in
and
they
can
either
be
tested
right
there
in
their
car
or
we
can
ask
them,
you
know
to
go
in
the
line
to
rejoin
once
the
line
has
come
from
the
edge
of
the
parking
lot.
D
La
worth
case
scenario
would
be
that
we
would
just
turn
them
away
and
send
them
to
our
san
francisco
site,
which
does
have
more
parking,
because
it
is
like
a
street
fight.
They
can
just
go
and
park
on
the
street
or
any
parking
lot
near.
The
site,
like
michael,
stated,
we're
setting
the
maximum
appointment
to
two
customers
per
15
minutes.
B
A
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
courtney,
quick
question
for
you.
I
was
interested
in,
I
know.
In
the
holidays,
there
was
an
unfortunate
spike
and
you
talked
about
a
high
volume
season.
What
does
the
volume
look
like
say
this
week?
I
mean
how
many
folks
are
actually
accessing
the
services
and
getting
tested.
Can
you
give
me
that
submit.
D
D
So
it's
definitely
a
lot
more
customers
we're
getting
right
now
but,
like
I
said
you
know,
we've
learned
from
the
past.
We
know
now
how
to
better
assist
that
volume
by
you
know,
like
I
said
cueing
in
those
two
lines,
we're
going
to
work
with
the
landlord
as
well,
so
that
we
can
access
that
full
site
to
make
our
lines
much
longer,
because
the
landlord
does
have
the
abandoned
car,
not
abandoned
vacant.
D
Sorry
vacant
car
lot
behind
us
as
well,
so
we're
gonna
work
with
them
so
that
our
queue
line
can
be
longer
if
needed,
we're
gonna
add
additional
staff
just
ensure
that
we
can
all
work
harmoniously
to
provide
this
service
to
the
community.
A
Yeah
one
question
for
michael:
have
there
been
any
other
complaints
about
service
or
is
it
purely
traffic,
because
I
personally
did
not
have
a
good
experience
at
this
test
site.
C
C
A
Yeah
all
right.
Well,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
what
happened
to
me
doesn't
have
anybody
else.
I
actually
had
covet
about.
A
month
ago
I
had
a
home
test.
I
was
positive.
I
went
to
get
the
pcr
test
at
this
location,
paid
the
money
for
the
five
hour
test
and
five
weeks
later,
I
still
haven't
gotten
the
results.
So
I
hope
that's
not
happening
to
other
people.
D
A
I
tried
to
email,
I
gotta
bounce
back.
I
haven't
had
time
yet
to
make
the
phone
call,
so
hopefully
it'll
be
made
right,
but
that
was
my
experience
this
last
time
I
used
it,
so
I
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
no
one
else
has
complained
to
the
city
about
it,
but
yeah
if
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
that
happened
to
me.
D
I
definitely
do
apologize
for
your
experience.
That's
not
the
type
of
experience
that
we
want
to
cultivate
for
the
community.
If
you'd
like
you
can
email
me,
and
I
can
look
into
what
happened
with
your
results
and
maybe
even
looking
to
doing
a
refund.
If
there
was
an
issue
of
us
sending
it,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
taken
care
of.
We
don't
want
any
of
our
customers
to
be
unhappy.
A
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
didn't
mean
to
hear
my
own
personal
issues
here,
but
I
didn't
know
this
was
going
to
come
up.
So
thank.
B
All
right
I
had
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
hands.
I
had
two
thoughts
myself.
Oh
sorry,
commissioner
drazza,
you
did
have
a
second
question.
A
Yeah,
no
sorry
chair,
I
I
think
I
raised
it
right
when
you
started
speaking,
I'm
happy
to
go
right
after
you,
since
I've
already
asked
them
there,
you
can
go
ahead.
It's
all
good
courtney.
Last
question:
you
you
mentioned
that
the
services
are
accessible
for
folks
who
are
uninsured.
A
D
Oh,
we
don't
actually
have
any
numbers
on
insurance.
We
don't
work
with
any
insurance
at
all.
That's
how
we're
able
to
offer
the
price
points
that
we
are.
We
do
offer
a
receipt
for
the
service,
so
if
the
customer
would
like
to
go
to
their
insurance
and
get
that
reimbursed,
they
are
able
to,
but
we
don't
have
a
distinct
number
of
insured
versus
uninsured.
A
Great
thank
you
before
you
chair.
B
All
right,
so
the
my
first
question
was
so
the
the
period
where
we
had
the
issue
with
the
traffic
that
was
the
christmas
2021
inch.
So
it
was
like
sort
of
the
before
like
like
this
last
december.
Basically,
is
that
correct.
D
B
Okay,
because
I
was
just
I
was
looking
at
statistics-
it
looks
like
for
san
mateo
county.
We
we
peaked
at
a
seven
day,
average
of
cases
somewhere
in
the
low
2000s,
and
then
we
have
had
a
more
recent
kind
of
broader
wave
where
it
was
rolling
at
around
500
for
quite
a
while,
which
was
starting
to
come
down,
and
it
sounds
like
at
that
kind
of
500
level.
It's
really
been
sustainable.
That
we've,
you
know
we
haven't,
had
any
issues
at
all
through
with
the
traffic.
B
C
A
B
Okay
and
then
the
other
question
I
have-
which
I
don't
know
that
it
matters
exactly,
but
I
was
I
was
curious
to
understand
whether
you
know
having
something
operating
here,
has
a
tax
revenue
implications
of
the
city.
That
I
mean
I
mean
I
guess
we
get
the
property
tax
either
way,
although
if
the
property
owner
wasn't
getting
any
income
from
that,
they
might
go
bankrupt
and
not
pay.
It.
C
Yes,
the
business
does
have
a
business
license,
and
so
they
do
have
to
pay
the
tax.
I
courtney.
Do
you
charge
the
tax
on
top
of
your
services.
B
I
think
my
understanding
is
medical
services
typically
are
among
the
sort
of
the
critical
things
that
sales
tax
doesn't
apply
to
that's
correct
all
right.
That
was
the
two
questions
I
had
at
this
time.
We
would
open
for
comments
from
the
public
if
we
have
any
public
with
us.
A
B
At
this
time,
do
we
have
any
other
substantive
you?
The
distinction
between
the
clarifying
and
substitute
questions
is
always
interesting,
but
do
we
do
we
have
any
more
discussion
among
the
requests
from
the
commission
for
for
information
from
staff,
or
are
we
prepared
to
make
a
motion
on
the
item
I'm
prepared
to.
A
B
All
right,
thank
you
for
your
time,
ms
mcfarlane.
B
And
right
there
is
a
10-day
period
for
appeal.
If
anybody
wished
to
appeal
this
action
to
the
city
council.
All
right
item,
7
right
that
was
7b-
is
our
interim
automobile
sales
presentation.
E
B
E
Good
morning
good
evening,
thank
you
been
that
kind
of
day
brian
milar
project
planner
consulting
planner
to
the
city
and
have
been
processing
this
this
project
and
working
with
the
applicant
over
the
last
several
months.
So
this
is
a
a
proposal
for
a
establishing
interim
automobile
sales
dealerships
for
under
the
genesis
of
the
the
shops
that
tan
from
the
chamber
and
mall,
and
so
I'm
going
to
see
if
I
can
get
to
the
stream
screen
and
move
to.
E
There
we
go
so,
hopefully
that's
coming
through
for
you,
so
pretty
powerpoint
presentation
on
this,
so
I'll
briefly
cover
the
the
elements
of
the
project
proposal.
The
project
setting
at
the
mall,
some
of
the
details
of
the
project
description
and
some
of
the
key
considerations
related
to
this.
This
proposed
interim
use
what
the
required
approvals
are
from
the
city
in
order
to
allow
the
project
to
move
forward
and
then
conclude
with
the
recommendation
from
staff
to
the
commission
for
any
questions
so
starting
with
project
proposal.
E
So
we
have
automobile
dealerships
that
are
proposed
for
hyundai
and
genesis.
These
would
be
involving
the
former
sears
building
at
the
north
edge
of
the
mall
in
tanfran,
and
would
also
include
automobile
inventory
storage
in
the
former
retail
building.
The
main
building
first
here
is
both
on
the
ground
floor,
primarily
down
in
the
basement
area.
E
There's
no
proposed
expansion
of
any
of
the
buildings
as
part
of
this
project,
and
as
mentioned
this
is
a
proposed
interim
use
anticipated
for
three
to
five
years.
I
know
the
applicant
is
supposed
to
certainly
have
a
friend
dealership
in
place
prior
to
that
and
I'll
note
that
the
city,
just
in
the
last
few
weeks,
has
received
a
application
to
establish
permanent,
auto
dealerships
across
the
street
on
el
camino,
real
just
south
of
the
chass
restaurant
and
crossing
the
vacant
about
eight
and
a
half
seconds.
E
So
that's
under
process
and
review
right
now
with
the
city.
Ultimately,
that'll
be
coming
back
before
the
planning
commission
on
this
web
city
council
for
review
and
action.
E
So
the
setting
again
we've
got
the
the
mall
shops
at
san
fran,
bounded
by
industry,
380
to
the
south,
the
elementary
ale
officer
to
the
west
smith
lane
to
the
north
and
I'm
thinking
huntington
avenue
off
to
the
east.
And
then
the
the
project
itself
proposes
to
occupy
the
former
service
building
near
the
north
end
of
the
mall
and
then
the
outlying
service
building.
Here
just
out
past
the
parking
garage
a
little
closer
view
of
that,
as
well
with
the
otto's
hills
and
vehicle
storage.
E
Here
customer
parking
primarily
out
in
this
area
and
then
lots
of
service
areas
here
to
the
north
and
some
additional
parking
and
then
deliveries
of
vehicles
importantly,
would
is
proposed
to
come
using
this.
The
existing
delivery
rate
at
the
back
side,
the
east
side
of
the
mall
that
provides
access
down
to
a
series
of
roll-up
doors
in
the
basement
of
the
former
sears
building
and
then
a
quick
view.
This
is
of
the
west
elevation
facing
el
camino
real.
E
This
would
be
the
primary
entrance
to
the
dealerships
in
terms
of
the
project
description
again,
two
key
elements:
auto
sales
and
storage
in
the
main
series,
regional
building,
the
former
serious
retailer
and
then
automobile
servicing
black
was
in
the
former
sears
spruce
building,
we'll
start
with
the
automobile
sales.
E
So
in
terms
of
occupying
the
the
building,
the
relatively
minor
improvements
that
are
intended
by
the
applicant
at
this
point
to
the
interior,
no,
no
structural
alterations
or
anything
of
the
nature.
The
the
genesis
and
their
big
dealerships
would
have
space
on
the
ground
floor
for
for
vehicle
displays
and
then
towards
the
back
east
end
of
the
net
ground
floor
area.
Maybe
seven
years
ago,
vehicles
would
would
be
stored
there
as
well.
E
The
primary
vehicle
storage
would
occur
down
in
the
basement
and
that,
once
the
the
use
is
up
and
running,
the
applicant
estimates
anywhere
from
two
to
three
hundred
vehicles
might
be
stored
in
the
building
at
any
given
time,
and
then
this
use
for
the
vehicle
sales
is
expected
to
have
somewhere
in
the
range
of
30
employees.
E
Continuing
with
automobile
sales
details
that
would
be
parking
primarily
out
front
towards
the
west
coast
towards
the
el
camino
rail
front
for
75
non-dedicated
spaces
in
front
of
the
former
search
building
vehicles
would
access
the
basement
storage
area
using
a
movable
ramp
that
would
provide
access
for
vehicles
coming
off
delivery
trucks,
basically
going
up
the
ramp
and
into
the
roll
of
doors
in
the
basement.
Then
they'd
stored
their
accordingly
once
vehicles
are
stored.
E
Vehicles
that
would
be
on
display
inside
the
dealership
area
on
the
main
floor
would
then
be
moved
up
to
the
main
floor,
from
primarily
from
the
data
through
some
rear
access,
doors
and
I'll
picture
that
here,
in
just
a
just
a
moment,
operations
for
the
dealership
seven
days
a
week
anticipated
typically
from
10
a.m,
to
6
p.m,
on
weekdays
and
sundays,
and
from
nine
to
seven
on
saturdays
floor
plan
that
the
applicants
provided
of
the
former
sears
building
main
entrance
here
off
of
the
west,
with
the
dealerships
and
this
area,
administrated
areas
and
so
forth,
and
then
some
some
vehicle
storage
are
off
to
the
side
of
that
of
that
ground
floor.
E
Not
a
lot
in
the
way
of
exterior
modifications,
essentially
paint
is
what
the
applicant
is
envisioning
sort
of
sprucing
up
the
building,
if
you
will
and
then
some
signage
as
well,
that
would
no
structural
modifications
and
then
a
quick
picture
of
the
primary
entrance.
This
is
looking
towards
that
primary
entrance
from
the
opening
rail
french
from
the
west
echo
to
the
right
or
to
the
sound
on
the
interior.
This
is
the
the
now
vacant
sears
space,
and
so
this
would
go
some
minor
modifications.
E
I
think
the
carpeting
comes
out
things
of
that
nature
to
provide
for
genesis
to
go
in
these
locations
here.
This
is
a
reverse
view,
looking
out
towards
that
primary
energy
to
the
west
and
again
these
would
be
vehicle
storage
areas
and
then
off
to
the
east
side
of
that
ground
floor.
Some
areas
that
would
be
used
for
vehicle
storage
anticipated
to
be
perhaps
seven
years.
Of
course,.
E
And
now
heading
down
to
the
basement,
so
this
is
on
the
inside
of
the
basement,
looking
out
towards
those
roll-up
doors.
These
would
be
the
primary
access
points
for
vehicles
to
come
into
the
building
and
be
stored
most
of
the
vehicles
again
stored
here
on
the
ground
on
the
basement
floor
once
the
tables
are
to
be-
and
this
is
the
existing
delivery
area
and
former
service
building
vehicles
or
trucks,
would
come
down
here
and
just
basically
load
the
inventory
and
bring
inventory
in
through
these
doors.
E
Same
thing
would
happen
with,
as
opposed
to
auto
dealerships
where
there'd
be
paragraph
where
vehicles
come
off
of
the
truck
trail
and
then
go
into
the
doors
to
be
stored
and
then,
ultimately,
if
they're
going
to
move
to
the
ground
floor
or
put
on
display
inside
the
dealership,
it
come
back
out
this
way
and
then
head
over
to
this
east
elevation.
This
is
an
existing
forefront,
type
door.
These
doors,
the
the
modifications
here,
would
be
just
to
widen
this
area.
E
It's
sufficient
to
allow
the
vehicle
to
go
in
and
out
nothing
terribly
significant,
but
there
would
be
some
modification
to
the
to
the
glass
and
the
frame,
not
expansion.
E
From
there
moving
on
to
automobile
servicing
apple
anticipates
up
to
about
20
employees
at
the
service
center.
The
parking
for
that
operation
would
occur
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
in
the
existing
parking
lot,
no
parking,
whether
it's
for
automobile
service
uses
or
for
automobile
inventory
storage,
employee
parking,
none
of
that's
proposed
in
the
existing
parking
garage
station.
I
should
know
for
the
automobile
servicing
operations
are
proposed
monday
through
saturday
from
7
30
to
6.
E
and
a
couple
of
quick
pictures,
and
this
is,
as
you
move
from
the
former
in
the
main
regional
building
back
past.
The
parking
garage
area
to
the
existing
building
and
this
area
likewise,
would
not
go
any
under
undergoing
any
particular
modifications
other
than
paint
and
sort
of
bursting
of
the
building
to
make
it
usable
again
for
servicing
of
vehicles
related
to
the
dealership
and
the
applicants
provided
this
this
elevation
just
having
intended
to
do
that.
E
So
key
considerations
for
the
commission,
the
inventory,
storage
and
just
just
address
that
here,
primarily
growing
down
in
the
basement
area
a
little
bit
on
the
primary
ground
floor
area
as
well.
This
is
proposed
as
an
interview.
It's
not
a
permanent
use,
so
the
applicant
has
formally
filed
an
application
to
establish
hyundai
and
genesis
to
the
ships
across
the
street
in
crossing
and
not
saying
that
that
will
be
for
review
before
the
commission's
city
council.
E
There's
no
building
expansions
proposed
as
part
of
this
interim
usa,
tanforan
bard,
noting
that
automobile
servicing
use
is
a
permitted
use.
There's
been
a
historic
use,
obviously
with
the
sears
building
at
this
location
and
similar
uses
at
the
mall
in
the
past
and
some
external
paint
to
sort
of
update
the
appearance
of
the
of
the
buildings
for
the
interviews.
E
And
then
this
project
is
qualified
for
an
extension
under
full
exemption
under
sql,
based
on
the
use
of
the
existing
facilities.
E
So
the
required
approvals
entitlements
for
this
underplanning
commission
review
and
recommendation
of
the
council
people.
One
is
a
a
minor
amendment
to
the
planned
development
itself,
the
original
ordinance
that
would
specifically
recognize
the
instrumental
sales
and
storage
uses
at
tan
tran
and,
secondly,
the
plan
development
permit
the
enacting
permit
for
the
use
itself.
E
The
recommendation
from
staff
to
the
planning
commission
is
production
of
a
resolution
which
the
commission
would
recommend
fine
development
amendment
as
well
as
prime
enrollment
permanent
approval
to
allow
interim
automobile
sales
and
inventory
storage
storage
at
the
former
serious
facility
buildings
at
the
shops
of
tampering
and
such
findings
and
conditions
that
were
provided
as
part
of
the
commission,
and
with
that
I
will
conclude.
I
will
note
that
the
the
applicant
representative,
clara,
is,
I
believe,
standing
by
if
there
happened
to
be
any
questions
for
him.
So
I'd
be
happy.
B
All
right
did
our
applicant
want
to
present
some
material
before
we
take
additional
questions
beyond
that.
E
A
A
E
I
can
I
can
relay
sort
of
the
status
on
that.
The
staff,
including
myself
and
building
staff,
have
had
a
number
of
discussions
with
the
applicant's
team
and
their
architect
and
so
forth.
On
this
issue-
and
I
know
the
applicant
was
working
to
still
provide
some
additional
information
to
the
city
just
for
review
to
ensure
that
the
ventilation
system
is
equipment
would
meet
them.
A
So
will
this
go
to
the
building
department?
Will
they
have
to
get
a
permit
to
remodel,
and
that
would
be
one
of
the
issues
that
we
can
make
sure
is
is
checked
off
the
box
because
I'm
pretty
sure
it
doesn't
comply,
especially
in
the
basement.
E
Yeah
at
this
point,
based
on
the
sort
of
a
two-fold
answer,
first
part
is
that,
based
on
the
submitted
application,
materials
and
the
applicant's
stated
intent
of
doing
minimal
modifications
that
doesn't
appear
that
it
would
be
a
carrier
for
a
building.
I
think,
mr.
E
Is
that
that
being
said,
the
applicant's
team,
including
their
hvac
team,
is
providing
information
to
building
city
building
staff
review
and
if
there
is
a
need
for
some
type
of
modifications.
Yes,
that
at
that
point
would
trigger
the
need
for
a
builder.
A
I
think
just
modifying
the
front
door
to
widen
it
will
trigger
a
permit,
but
I
guess
moving
on.
Will
there
be
a
an
elevator
added
internally
to
bring
the
cars
up
from
the
basement,
or
is
it
all
purely
the
ramp
in
the
back.
A
A
E
That
one
okay,
so
oops
one
moment
here.
E
A
The
space
the
north
shore
in
the
building
will
not
be
used
for
for
cars
for
sale.
E
I
don't
believe
that
would
be
the
intent
I
see
the
applicant
here
as
well
was
trying
to
raise
his
hand
recently,
so
he
could
clarify
that
yeah.
Mr
palara.
F
I
can
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
one
one
with
the
storage
of
vehicles.
There
is
no
we
currently
operate
over.
I
think
it's
over
22
different
different
facilities,
and
there
is
no
typically
no
additional
ventilation
for
vehicle
storage
because
of
the
fact
that
the
traffic
is
not
anywhere
near
what
a
normal
parking
garage
or
something
to
that
effect
is
a
normal
showroom,
has
no
additional
ventilation
systems.
F
It
isn't
an
issue,
that's
even
because
of
the
volume
and
the
amount
of
cars
that
would
move
in
now.
The
building
is
so
small
that,
with
the
size
of
the
building
and
the
hvac
system
will
have,
it
is
far
less
than
a
normal
car
showroom
impact,
but
as
for
vehicle
storage,
outdoor
storage,
the
alexandria
wood
light
is
trying
to
create
more
traffic
down
on
that
end
of
the
building.
F
Our
desire
is
not
to
have
a
whole
lot
of
vehicles
outside
just
for
for
the
purposes
of
of
security
and
such
it's
easier
to
have
the
vehicles
contain
contained
within
the
building.
A
Okay,
well,
I
mean,
I
know
your
showroom,
there's
not
a
lot
of
cars
because
you
have
this
entire
basement
and
the
second
half
of
the
level
one
it
looks
like
you
could
fit
quite
a
few
cars
in
there.
So
as
long
as
you
have
it
checked,
and
the
hvc
people
at
the
city
sign
off
on
it,
that's
great!
So
if
a
customer
comes
and
wants
to
go,
look
at
the
cars
you
have
to
bring
them
down
to
the
basement.
Yes,.
F
There
are
escalators
on
both
sides
for
up
and
down.
We
don't
plan
to
use
the
escalators
for
simply
for
security
purposes.
We
would
prefer
to
use
the
elevator
just
just
for
our
purposes
that
we
we
feel
like
it
would
be
easier
to
just
maintain
the
elevator
and
not
the
elevator
use
or
just
stairway
versus
just
a
regular
escalator
where
somebody
could
go
up
and
down.
A
Okay
and
then
is
there
as
far
as
the
parking
goes
there's.
No,
I
guess
I'm
asking:
is
there
anything
stopping
them
from
filling
up
that
space
line
just
to
the
north
today
start
putting
cars
out
there
and
there's
nothing
the
city
can
do
about
it.
I
thought
that
we
would
be
against
it.
I'm
just
curious
yeah.
I
think
it
will
go
back
to
the.
A
Okay
and
then
last
question,
I
know
the
whole
mall
is
supposed
to
get.
You
know,
redone
into
like
housing
and
stuff
time
frame,
that
this
allows
them
to
do
this.
I
think
it
said
three
to
five
years
or
something
is
that
if
that
should
conflict
with
any
redevelopment,
is
there
any
issues
there
that
we
need
to
worry
about.
E
I
think
I
can
start
the
answer,
I'm
not
sure
michael
watson,
if
we'll
chime
in
on
this
too,
but
I
know
that
what
the
city
has
right
now
is
is
working
towards
a
ultimately
what
the
council
identified
sort
of
a
mixed
use,
vision
or
concept
for
the
mall,
and
ultimately,
that
would
include
some
some
reconstruction,
obviously
of
facilities
on
the
on
the
property.
The
exact
timing
of
that
at
least
my
understanding
of
it
has
not
yet
been
determined
and
that
again,
the
intent
of
this
this
application.
F
E
El
camino
real
to
the
west
there's
a
vacant.
I
think
the
primary
remaining
piece
peace
land
at
the
crossing
san
francisco
was
the
site
that
had
been
previously
considered
for
a
hotel
development
currently
fairly
recently
by
the
city,
and
now
the
intent
is
through
through
mr
palera
and
his
application.
That's
been
filed
is
to
establish
a
permanent
building
for
genesis,
dealerships
at
that
making
one
and
a
half
acre
site.
A
E
I
actually
well,
I
can
go
back
so
this
area
over
here,
if
you
can
see
it
on
the
screen,
is,
is
the
location
for.
E
A
Yeah,
thank
you
through
the
chair.
I
did
want
to
address
a
couple
of
comments
or
questions
from
commission
vice
chairman
in
your
packet.
There
is
the
there
are
two
you'll
be
taking
two
actions
tonight.
There's
two
resolutions.
One
is
regarding
the
ordinance
the
other
is
regarding
the
plan
development
permit
attached
to
the
plan
development
permit.
There
are
conditions
of
approval
and
there
are
conditions,
number
f,
that's
page
29
in
your
packet,
there's
no
autumn
condition.
Number
four
is
no
automobile.
A
A
There
is
not
a
condition
specific
to
the
surface
parking
lots
around
building
number
five
is
there
shall
be
no
display
of
automobiles
for
sale
within
the
shops
at
tanfran
and
then
there's
condition
seven
regarding
deliveries,
that
delivery
should
only
occur
in
the
driveway
bays
at
the
rear
east
side
of
the
retail
building
at
the
basement
level.
B
Conditions
of
approval
in
the
planned
development
permit-
and
I
mean
I
guess
if
thinking
about
this
like
if
there
was
a
concern
with
you-
know,
cars
being
parked
in
that
north
parking
lot.
I
mean
fundamentally
the
you
know.
This
is
private
property.
This
you
know
the
the
operator
of
the
shops
at
10
foreign
would
be.
You
know
if
they,
if
they
had
an
objection
to
that,
they
would
be
able
to
enforce
that
private
right.
B
Yes,
that's
correct.
Okay,
I
had
one
other
question
of
my
own
in
regard
to
the
service
building
and
my
understanding
my
recollection
is
that
sears
was
conducting
a
fairly
wide
range
of
auto
services
in
that
building
already,
you
know,
handling
brake
fluid
oil
changes,
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
doing
auto
service
in
this
building.
It
has
sort
of
no
bearing
on
the
history
of
the
site
in
terms
of
what
kind
of
soil
radiation
or
other
you
know,
interventions
would
have
to
happen,
as
this
eventually
gets
converted
into
office
and
housing.
B
Because,
frequently
you
know
with
auto
service
there.
You
know
you
do
have
to
conduct
a
study
and
remediate
the
soil.
You
know
because
of
toxicity
issues,
but
if
I'm
understanding
right
because
it
already
has
been
used
for
that,
it
makes
no
difference
right,
like
whatever
would
need
to
be
done,
already
needs
to
be
done,
and
so
you
know
this
isn't
there's
no
delta
to
this,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that's
correct.
F
Correct
can
I
can
I
give
a
little
color
background
to
it
sure.
As
far
as
that's
concerned,
we
are
one
of
the
most
heavily
regulated
air.
I,
I
guess
you'd
say
one
of
those
industries
that
I
mean
the
property
has
already
gone
through
full
phase,
one
in
the
sale
to
alexandria,
and
we
were.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
wasn't
a
contamination
issue.
B
I
appreciate
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
That
was
that
was
the
only
additional
question
I'd
had
coming
back
to
the
issue
of
the
resolutions.
I
did
I
scrolled
down
to
the
packet
again
and
I
see
we
do
have
we'll
have
two
separate
resolutions
which
are
20
22.
B
Are
they
08
no
9
yeah?
So
all
right
at
this
time
we
should
be
open
for
public
comment.
Do
we
have
any
hands
in
the
audience
on
this
issue?
Oh
I'm.
Sorry
I
just
realized.
Vice
chairman
had
raised
his
hand
again.
I
apologize.
A
Don't
worry
sorry,
your
question
made
me
ask
for
another
question:
does
any
know,
is
there
a
fuel
station
at
the
service
building
at
all,
and
if
not,
has
anyone
looked
at
any
traffic
implications
of
you
know
I'm
going
over
filling
up
their
cars
with
gas
at
the
nearby
gas
station,
not
aware
of
any
fuel
fueling.
A
Okay,
so
I
know
there
is
like
a,
I
think,
a
shell
station
on
the
corner
right
across
the
street,
not
the
easiest
to
get
to,
and
anyway
I'm
hoping
that
this
isn't
any
worse
than
when
the
mall
was
in
its
heyday.
So
I
think
it'd
be
fine.
F
I
can
give
you
a
little
a
little
food
for
thought
if,
if
we
do
extremely
well
you're
looking
at
anywhere
from
call
it
three
to
eight
cars
a
day,
you
know
the
the
I'm
I'd
be
really
happy.
If
it
was
it
exceeded
that,
but
I
don't
the
the
volume
of
traffic
shouldn't
be
that
great
for
as
far
as
inventory
vehicles.
B
It
did,
and
I
this
is
a
clarifying
question.
Is
it
like
thinking
about
sort
of
how
service
centers
operate?
I
mean,
do
you
typically
top
up
the
tank
for
customers?
I
mean
that
seems
like.
I
don't
think
people
have
done
that
for
me
back
when
I
had
a
you
know
so
like
it's,
not
they
bring
the
camera
off,
but
they
come
and.
B
You,
okay,
I
guess
I
can
check
again.
Do
we
have
any
hands
in
the
audience?
Do
we
have
any
public
comment.
B
All
right,
thank
you.
I
will
just
ask
if
there
are
any
further
questions.
Any
further
comments
from
the
commission
not
seeing
any
immediately.
I
will
myself
make
a
motion
to
adopt
revolution.
Number
20,
22.08,
recommending
amendments
to
ordinance,
1087
regulating
land
uses
at
the
shops
at
10,
foreign.
A
A
A
B
All
right,
thank
you
for
your
time,
mr
miller
and
mr
thank
palara
very.
F
A
Yes,
so
the
memorial
recognition
committee
and
process
was
started
in
2012
to
recognize
key
members
of
the
community
and
there's
currently
a
need
to
convene
the
committee
because
they
have
two
nominations
before
them,
and
so
the
city
clerk
has
asked
that
we
come
to
you,
the
planning
commission
and
see
if
we
can
get
two
members
who
would
be
willing
to
serve
on
that
committee.
I
don't
believe
it
would
be
a
huge
commitment.
A
A
So
I
apologize.
I
don't
have
more
information
on
that,
but
the
you
know
the
meetings
would
be
scheduled
that
hopefully,
at
times
that
are
mutually
agreeable
to
the
committee
members
that
are
selected.
So
I
would
imagine
they'd,
be
you
know,
probably
even
evening,
meetings
for
the
most
part.
A
So
so,
if
we
can
get
to
two
people
that
might
be
interested
in
that.
B
A
So
it's
not
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
like
a
like
this,
where
it's
like
the
third
tuesday
of
every
month
or
I'm
not
sure
how
frequent
it
is,
but
it
can
be
fairly
flexible.
I
should
be
able
to
actually
be
able
to
do
it.
B
Was
that
was
that
you,
volunteering,
marco
yeah,
count
me
in
great
yeah
I
would
have.
I
would
consider
volunteering,
but
I'm
already
doing
the
the
recreation
subcommittee
on
top
of
this.
So
I
yeah.
I
appreciate
folks
willingness
to
step
up.
Do
we
do
we
need
to
call
a
vote
to
confirm
those
appointments?
B
I
think
so.
Okay,
all
right
here
in
agreement,
I'm
not
sharing
any
consensus
information,
all
right!
Thank
you
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
our
study
session
on
the
draft
housing
element.
C
Okay,
good
evening,
chair
harman
and
members
of
the
planning
commission,
michael
smith,
planning
department
staff.
Again
I'm
going
to
give
you
tonight's
presentation
is
to
update
the
planning
commission
on
the
status
of
the
2023-2031
housing
element,
update
process
and
just
get
your
input
on
staff's
direction
that
we've
charted
so
far.
C
So
staff
will
walk
you
through
the
relevant
sections
of
the
draft
housing
element
that
includes
the
six
cycle
arena
allocation,
how
the
city
meets
its
arena
allocations
through
the
housing
site
inventory.
We
will
outline
how
staff
developed
these
the
housing
policies
and
goals
to
implement
the
arena
allocation
and
conclude
the
presentation
with
the
overall
housing
element
adoption.
C
A
similar
presentation
was
made
to
the
council
late
last
month
when
the
document
was
released
for
the
30-day
review
period
staff
will
soon
forward
the
city's
draft
housing
element
to
hcd
for
their
90-day
review,
and
that's
that's
the
big
review.
C
Once
atvs
comments
are
received
from
that
90-day
review,
an
updated
draft
will
be
prepared
by
staff
and
made
available
to
decision
makers
and
the
public.
This
fall.
All
public
comments
received
will
be
attached
to
the
document
when
forwarded
to
hcd
review,
for
it
to
hcd
for
review.
C
So
over
the
past
year,
the
city
of
san
bruno,
its
residents
and
stakeholders
from
across
the
region
have
participated
in
outreach
and
engagement.
Efforts
for
housing
element
update
and
is
with
with
great
excitement
that
we
released
the
draft
last
month.
C
The
housing
element
itself,
because
most
of
you
are
new
to
the
planning
commission.
You
may
not
have
actually
be
familiar
with
the
housing
element
process,
but
the
document
does
establish
goals,
policies
and
programs
to
help
the
city
address.
The
city's
current
and
future
housing
needs
and
includes
a
list
of
recommended
housing
sites.
C
The
housing
element
consists
of
extensive
analysis
on
housing,
needs,
housing,
constraints
to
housing,
production
and
new
for
this
cycle,
fair
housing
assessment,
housing
resources,
public
engagement
is
a
big
piece
and
previous
accomplishments
during
the
current
housing
cycle,
as
well
as,
as
I
said,
the
housing
sites
inventory
and
goals,
policies
and
programs,
the
draft
housing
element
and
technical
appendices
again
are
available
on
our
website.
B
C
C
C
To
say
there
was
a
lot
more
units
that
we
got
assigned
this
year
and
then
from
there,
our
regional
governing
body,
which
in
this
case
is
abag
association
of
bay
area
governments
allocates
them
to
the
different
communities
within
the
bay
area
and
before
that
they
actually
allocated
them
to
to
the
to
the
different
counties.
So
I
believe
san
mateo
counties
were
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
41
000
units
and
of
that
san
bruno
got
3
165..
C
Should
things
not
get
developed
in
the
in
the
manner
we
anticipated
as
housing,
and
so
they
recommend
a
15
buffer
and
that
bumps
it
up
even
higher
to
3
640
units
and
so
on.
This
table
here
on
the
slide,
you
can
see
how
that's
divided
by
income.
Category
first
column
is
a
very
low
income,
low
income,
moderate
income
and
market
rate,
and
then
you
can
see
the
percentages
there
as
well.
C
So
this
table
shows
how
the
city
or
house
staff
and
about
trying
to
accommodate
the
arena
from
the
various
different
project
types
we
like
to
call
them
buckets.
So
this
first
one
at
the
top
is
pipeline
projects.
C
Those
are
projects
that
are
generally
have
already
been
approved
by
the
city
or
anticipated
to
be
approved
before
before
the
end
of
this
year,
and
so
you
can
see
that
there's
670
units-
these
are
not
units
that
are
built.
C
Yet
a
large
chunk
of
those
units
came
with
mills
park
and
that
accounted
for
427
units
and
then
there's
another
1293
units
that
we've
identified
and
other
sites
that
are
in
the
tcp
and
then,
as
we
talked
about
with
the
last
project
that
you
guys
talked
about,
the
tanforan
and
alexandria
is
the
new
owner
and
we
have
are
envisioning
a
thousand
units
at
that
at
the
tampering
site
at
a
at
a
minimum,
and
so
we're
already
in
discussions
for
that,
and
they
understand
the
the
new
owners
understand
what
our
vision
is
for
the
site
and
then
accessory
dwelling
units
we're
estimating
345
accessory
dwelling
units
over
the
past
two
years.
C
C
C
So
a
little
bit
about
the
pipeline
projects,
as
I
said,
we're
looking
at
670
units.
These
are
projects
that
you
guys
are
pretty
familiar
with
that
have
come
to
you
in
the
past,
and
this
is
what
how
we
arrived
at
those
670
units,
and
so,
as
I
said,
mills
park
was
the
biggest
tally
in
that
670
and
then
going
on
down
the
list.
C
This
is
the
different
income
ranges.
You
can
see
the
status
of
those
projects
right
here,
so
those
have
been
entitled
the
ones
you've
already
seen
and
that
actually
this
now
glenview
terrace
can
now
be
updated
to
well,
it's
not
quite
entitled
it's
still.
It
still
has
to
go
through
city
council,
so
it
will
remain
under
review
at
this
point
and
then
so
you
can
see
what's
happening.
C
C
This
map
is
actually
an
enlargement
of
a
portion
of
the
site's
inventory
map
and
then
right
here,
this
magenta
outline
that
you
see
on
the
map
along
both
el
camino,
real
and
san
bruno
avenue
and
huntington
avenue,
that's
the
boundary
for
the
tcp,
and
so
we
tried
to
identify
as
many
sites
in
that
boundary
as
we
could,
and
so
these
are
the
ones
we
have
and
you
can
see
the
names
of
the
keys
to
the
site
over
here.
C
So
number
six
over
here
in
brown
is
the
the
engvall
school
site,
and
then
these
are
the
two
bay
hill
sites
and
then
over
here
number
14
is
the
tan
france
site
and
that's
also
the
tan
france
site
on
huntington
avenue
as
well
that
vacant
lot,
so
that
that
gives
you
kind
of
a
flavor.
And
you
know,
I've
also
included
the
census
tract
information
underneath
here,
because
that
is
another
big
piece
of
the
puzzle
of
how
we
convey
the
information
to
hcd.
C
So
again,
80
adus
are
a
piece
of
the
puzzle
of
how
we're
going
to
meet
our
arena
for
the
next
cycle.
C
C
In
2020
we
were
actually
still
doing
a
two-step
process,
so
that
kind
of
hampered
our
ability
to
issue
building
permits
somewhat,
but
we
still
did
receive
55
applications
or
entitled
55
adu
applications
during
that
period
and
then
again
last
year
in
2021
we
got
68
and
so
again
reaching
345
adu
over
the
next
eight
years
is
going
to
be
about
43
units
per
year
and
seeing
as
how
we
received
55
applications
in
2020
and
68
and
20
2021,
we
think
that
we
could
meet
the
345
over
the
next
eight
year
cycle.
C
C
C
So
this
is
kind
of
a
small
snapshot
of
some
of
the
analysis
that
formed
the
basis
of
our
recommended
goals
and
programs
in
the
draft
housing
element.
You
will
find
a
lot
more
analysis
covering
housing
topics
such
as
demographics,
housing
needs
constraints
to
housing
and
housing,
resources,
input
to
goals
and
programs.
We
looked
at
existing
goals
and
programs
in
our
existing
housing
elements.
He
saw
which
ones
were
working
and
which
ones
were
not.
Those
ones
that
were
working
were
kept
and
those
that
weren't
were
medicined.
C
We
reviewed
our
current
housing
needs
and
then
again,
affirmatively
fair
housing,
that's
a
new
requirement,
and
then
we
also
looked
at
our
public
outreach
process
and
what?
What
was
the
information
we
got
from
the
public
through
that
process,
including
a
survey
which
we
also
have
running
right
now,
which
has
been
running
since
since
march,
and
that
will
close
this
friday
as
well
and
to
date,
we've
received
over
420
responses
to
that
survey.
C
That
survey
was
was
put
in
people's
utility
bills;
it
was
put
on
the
city,
social
media
account
and
also
in
the
city
manager's
newsletter,
and
so
we're
pretty
happy
with
the
amount
of
responses
we
received
to
the
survey
and
through
those
different
data
inputs
and
the
surveys
and
the
public
outreach.
We
came
up
with
these
overarching
housing
goals,
there's
eight
of
them
that
kind
of
form
the
basis
and
then,
within
these
eight
overarching
goals.
C
There
are
specific
programs
that
are
in
the
housing
element
that
would
achieve
these
goals
so
I'll
just
read
them
improve
the
development
review
and
approval
process
increase
the
availability
of
housing
throughout
the
city,
protect
current
residents
from
displacement,
support
the
needs
of
households
with
low
incomes
and
special
needs,
improve
the
city's
management
of
its
affordable
housing
portfolio
and
housing.
Funds
preserve
the
affordability
of
existing
at-risk,
affordable
housing,
promote
sustainable
residential
development
that
is
energy
efficient
and
reduces
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
then,
lastly,
promote
equity
in
housing.
C
So
I
said
before
to
get
the
public
involved
in
the
process.
Over
the
last
year
and
a
half
staff
met
with
fair
housing
advocates
service
providers,
housing
developers
hosted
an
introductory
housing
element
meeting
an
adu
workshop.
C
We
also
did
public
outreach
that
was
conducted
through
21
elements.
That's
the
overarching
umbrella
organization
for
the
21
jurisdictions
in
san
mateo
county.
In
addition,
staff
held
two
community
meetings.
Those
were
held
in
may
launch
the
community
survey,
which
is
what
you
see
on
the
screen
here.
C
That's
the
link
to
that
survey
and
then
again
we
advertised
everything
on
social
media
on
channel
one,
the
utility
bill
inserts.
We
did
a
flyer
distribution
to
downtown
businesses
and.
C
And
then
again,
all
of
these
efforts
have
been
incorporated
into
the
draft
housing
element
and
we
are
going
to
be
forwarding
that
to
to
hcd
at
the
end
of
the
30-day
process.
The
30-day
review
process
for
the
housing
element
ends
again
on
friday
and
so
in
early
july,
we'll
be
folding
it
to
hcd
for
their
big
90-day
review.
C
Now
we
have
the
study
session
for
today
that
we're
doing
with
you
and
submitting
to
hcd
in
early
july
and
again
that's
a
90
day
process,
then
we'll
in
september
or
thereabouts,
we'll
get
their
comments
back
and
and
so
far
what
it
looks
like
with
hcd
is
that
they're
they're
receiving
these
documents,
and
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
silence
for
about
a
month
or
so
and
then
they're
starting
to
reach
out
to
the
staff
the
different
jurisdiction
staff
working
on
the
housing
elements
and
have
conversations.
C
So
it's
not
like
90
days
go
by
and
we
won't
hear
anything
and
then
get
something
dropped
on
us
on
the
90th
day.
There's
a
lot
of
communication
back
and
forth
with
hcd
staff
along
the
way
and
then
in
the
fall
and
into
the
early
winter
is
we
have
our
hearings
for
adoption
and
we'll
hoping
to
submit
to
hcd
by
december
15th,
and
it
needs
to
be
certified
by
them
by
the
end
of
january.
C
Now
the
the
bay
area
is
kind
of
later
in
the
schedule,
so
the
sandag
region,
which
is
san
diego,
has
already
gone
through
this
process
and
right
now,
this
the
southern
california
region,
is
going
through
this
process,
which
is
the
the
la
basin
area
and
yeah.
So
we're
we're
hoping
we'll
be
excited
about
it.
C
We
think
you
know
that
we
found
a
lot
of
good
sites
and
a
lot
of
good
programs
and
we're
hoping
that
hcd
feels
the
same,
and
this
concludes
my
presentation
for
it
and
again.
This
is
where
you
can
find
it,
and
what
this
is,
how
you
can
submit
your
comments.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
michael
at
this
time,
do
we
have
any
clarifying
questions
from
the
commission.
B
I
oh
wait
there
we
go,
commissioner.
A
Just
really
quickly
the
numbers
that
we
are
meant
to
meet
in
our
arena
allocation
do
they
need
to
be
fully
built
out
in
the
eight-year
period
or
do
they
need
to
be
entitled
or
if
what
I've
just
seen
as
the
project,
the
project
that
we've
been
seeing
coming
through,
that
many
of
them
are
approved,
and
then
they
just
kind
of
stall,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
how
how
that
affects
our
arena
scores
and
how
it
contributes
to
the
numbers
you're
trying
to
meet.
C
So
that
is
why,
for
instance,
mills
park,
which
has
not
applied
for
a
bill's
building,
permit
to
construct
that
project
is,
cannot
be
included
towards
our
current
arena
because
there
was
no
building
permit
issued
and
if
they
were
to
even
apply
for
a
building
permit
tomorrow,
that
wouldn't
count
it
wouldn't
count
until
it's
issued
in
hcd
size
and
so
yeah.
C
We
don't
know,
I'm
not
sure.
If
michael
knows,
I
do
know
that
they
have
a
d.a
which
gives
them
a
development
agreement.
That
is,
that
gives
them
a
certain
amount
of
time
to
construct
that
building.
It
is
a
big
project,
there's
two
different
buildings,
and
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
money
that
goes
into
making
construction
drawings.
C
A
So
that's
that's
about
all
I
know
at
this
point
is
that,
just
because
of
I
think
difficulties
they
think
they
were
trying
to
perhaps
sell
the
project.
They've
also
been
looking
at.
You
know
some
of
the
issues
and
costs
you
know,
building
it
as
well,
so
they're
they're,
you
know
they're
trying
to
overcome
some
obstacles.
I
think,
on
their
end,
to
develop
the
project.
A
I
see
one
other
question:
there
was
talk
before
of
building
up
over
the
shopping
center
at
bay
hill.
Is
there
any
prospect
of
that
idea?.
C
Yes,
we
did
include
851
cherry
in
our
sites
inventory
list,
and
so
that
is
one
of
the
bay
hill
pro
properties.
C
They
were
the
ones
who
did
indicate
some
agreement
for
adding
housing
to
that
site,
so
we've
included
it
on
the
list.
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
B
So
I
had
a
question.
I
have
recollection
that
the
transit
corridors
plan
as
it
was
adopted
and,
as
you
know,
what
was
presented
to
the
public
that
you
know
what
was
the
you
know,
the
the
subject
of
measure
n
back
in
2014.
B
B
I
forgot
the
exact
terminology,
transformative
site
and
I
did
see
some
of
the
individual
parcels
of
that
included
on
this
list
and
I
was
unclear
whether
a
we've
sort
of
batched
up
all
of
those
parcels
in
a
way
that
sort
of
represents
that
ambition
of
really
building
a
substantial,
integrated,
mixed-use
building
there,
which
is
supposedly
what
we
voted
to
do
and
whether
there
is
any
you
know,
process
for
identifying
a
developer.
B
That
would
be
interested
in
that
or
you
know,
a
program
to
make
it
more
attractive
like
what
the
what
the
status
of
that
is
and
what
you
know.
Whether
that
could
be
used
to
increase
the
yield
of
that
segment
of
our
of
our
inventory.
B
C
C
One
of
them,
I
believe,
was
the
site
that
you're
talking
about,
and
I
think
another
one
might
have
been
111
san
bruno
there
at
the
corner
of
huntington
and
san
bruno
avenue,
and
then
I
think
the
third
one
was
the
cal
train
parking
lot.
So
those
are
the
three
different
catholic
sites,
the
the
one
that
you're
talking
about
is
still
on
our
list.
It
has
been
divided
up
into
separate
properties,
so
we're
not
necessarily
looking
at
it
as
one
huge
or
larger
development.
C
However,
that
said
we
wouldn't
I
mean
someone
could
still
come
in
the
door
to
develop
all
the
properties
at
the
same
time.
But
what
we're
finding
out
is
that
lot.
Consolidation
in
the
city
can
be
very,
very
difficult,
so
you
have
multiple
business
owners
and
then
it's
just
it's
just
really
hard
to
put
those
kind
of
projects
together,
and
I
believe
that
that
catalytic
site
had
potentially
that
whole
block-
I
I
think
in
it,
and
so
it
was.
C
It
was
really
hard
for
staff
to
kind
of
include
a
whole
block
and
tell
hcd
that
we
thought
that
this
could
reasonably
turn
over
and
produce
the
kind
of
development
we
want
in
the
next
eight
year
cycle,
because
no
developers
have
really
come
to
staff
to
really
talk
about
developing
those
the
sites
in
that
manner.
So
we
had
to
kind
of
re-evaluate.
C
C
But
again,
if
someone
was
to
come
and
develop
in
the
vision
that
was
envisioned
in
the
in
the
tcp
as
a
catalytic
site,
you
know
we
are
all
ears.
B
Yeah,
I
guess
I
mean
I
have
sort
of
two
branches.
One
is:
are
we
these
numbers
are
anticipating
using
full
zone
capacity,
whatever
the
five?
Is
it
a
five
story
in
this
section?
B
Yes,
okay,
I
I
guess
I
wonder
you
know
like
you
know
it
would
be
nice
to
sort
of
deliver
what
the
people
voted
for,
and
I
don't
know
that.
Would
you
know
it
would
mean
you
know
that
you
know,
as
we've
seen
with
something
like
mills
park,
you
know
there's
been
construction
inflation.
Who
knows
what
else
is
going
on?
That's
slowing
them
down
that,
and
you
know,
we've
seen
the
project
at
the
the
northeast
corner,
the
111.
B
B
B
You
know
we
I
I
question
whether
you
know
is
there
something
we
could
be
doing
to
adopt
programs
that
would
and
changes
in
policy
and
streamlining
that
would
make
these
projects
more
attractive,
such
that
a
developer
might
step
forward
and
say:
oh
yeah,
if
that's
the,
if
that's
the
terms,
then
it's
attractive
to
me
to
start
buying
up,
you
know
to
make
serious
offers
on
buying
up
these
properties
and
consolidating
them.
I
mean
I'm.
Actually
you
know
I
am
in
a
lot
of
cases,
skeptical
of
consolidation.
I
actually
think
fine-grained
development
and
small.
B
You
know
the
sort
of
small
is
beautiful
many
hands.
My
my
natal
town
of
ellicott
city
has
a
lovely
downtown.
That's
very
you
know
fine
grain,
small
businesses-
and
I
think
that's
great,
but
in
terms
of
the
you
know
the
catalytic,
the
idea
that
you
get
big
mix
you
know
do
a
few
really
big
improvements
that
then
create
the
customers
who
you
know
they
have
the
demand
that
drives
improving
more
of
downtown.
B
It
does
seem,
like
you
know
you
you
potentially,
could
have
a
lot
more
units
there.
If
we
could
credibly
say
we
have
a
route
to
get
there,
but
it's
I
think
it's
a
little
a
little
disappointing
to
see
that
left
chopped
up,
and
especially,
if
you
know,
if
you
do
put
one
brand
new
building
in
there,
it's
going
to
become
a
lot
harder
to
imagine
that
that
original
vision
would
ever
come
to
fruition,
because
somebody's
not
going
to
want
to
knock
that
building
down
in
less
than
you
know.
B
50
years
or
something
I
see
vice
chairman
has
a
hand.
A
Yeah,
just
give
you
a
perspective
from
what
I
see
at
work,
I'm
I'm
working
on
a
project
right
now.
That's
like
a
20-story
residential
building
san
francisco
that
they
consolidated
four
lots
to
build
this
thing
and
and
the
construction
costs
are
just
going
through
the
roof.
A
With
all
this,
you
know
the
war
and
all
these
things
and
from
what
I'm
hearing
it's
like
a
lot
of
construction
and
development
has
really
slowed
down
because
because
of
these
costs-
and
then
I
think
one
of
the
big
impediments
here-
we've
talked
about
this
before
in
several
meetings-
is
our
height
limit
being
so
close
to
the
airport
that
it's,
it's
probably
very
difficult
for
the
developers
to
make
money.
These
guys
are
not
do-gooders.
A
I
mean
they
want
to
make
money,
and
so
things
don't
really
pencil
out
if
they're
limited
to
tiny
lots-
and
you
know
two
or
three
stories-
and
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
realistic
that
you
know
I
don't
know
if
a
lot
of
this
is
actually
going
to
happen
unless
you
know
things
improve
with
just
the
economy
as
far
as
cost
construction
and
then
giving
them
more
flexibility.
B
You
know
we
you
know
with
the
mills
park,
we
get,
you
know
whatever
10
million
dollars
in
public
benefit
payments
that
comes
with
it
and
you
sort
of
there's
always
a
temptation
to
kind
of
you
know
ring
as
much
out
of
it
as
you
possibly
can,
which
sounds
great
in
the
short
term,
but
then,
if
it
doesn't
actually
get
built
and
you
you
know,
like
the
the
longer
term
benefit
of
a
thriving
economy
that
creates
the
you
know,
the
sales
tax
base
and
so
on
that
there's
you
know
if
you,
if
you
run
the
developments
right
up
to
the
ragged
edge
and
then
events
overtake
them,
it
becomes
a
problem.
B
B
B
You
can
do
a
more
aggregated
like
total
production,
but
but
you
know
like
I,
we
clearly
did
not
hit
our
overall
arena
numbers,
so
even
on
the
total
production
basis,
we
clearly
are
not
going
to
be
at
a
100
percent
number
for
that,
and
it
just
seems
really
unlikely
to
me,
particularly
the
sites
with
active
businesses
in
them.
That
hcv
is
going
to
counting
these
at
100
weight.
B
The
vacant
ones
are,
I
think,
more
plausible,
just
because
once
something's
vacant,
obviously
the
the
landowner
is
it's
going
to
be
very
attractive
to
them
to
do
something
with
it
and
put
it
to
use,
but
without
some
kind
of
you
know
like
what
is
it
that
we
are
going
to
do
to
cause
it
to
become
attractive
to
develop
these?
To
you
know,
especially
with
active
businesses
where
whoever
owns
it
is,
you
know,
earning
rent
or
potentially,
the
business
owner
owns
the
land
as
uncommon
as
that
may
be.
B
You
know
this
is
like
it's.
It
is
a
large
chunk
of
our
total
right.
It's
what
1293
and
then
of
those
the
active
or
I
haven't
actually
done
the
math,
but
like
two-thirds-ish
of
that
1293,
it's
a
really
substantial
portion-
and
I
you
know
like
we
are-
we
are
very
likely
to
get
things
on
that.
C
Yeah,
I
I
I
hear
you
I,
and
I
agree
I
mean
part
of
the
issue-
is
that
sam
reno
is
a
built
out
city,
and
so
you
know
we're
not
gonna
find
land
or
vacant
land
enough
to
for
37
3600
units,
so
so
that
so
then
we
have
to
kind
of
go
down
to
the
next
tier
and
look
at
those
properties
that
have
active
businesses
that
are
either
underperforming
or
not
as
valuable
as
the
land
that
is
on
them.
C
And
so
that's
where
we
have
to
kind
of
dig
a
little
deeper
to
find
sites.
And
so
I
mean
that's,
that's
what
we
have
for
it,
and
it
will
be
a
conversation
with
with
hcd
staff
to
try
you
know
to
to
to
convince
them
that
we
think
that
these
sites
can
turn
over
for
whatever,
for
whatever
reason.
B
B
I
would
like
to
see
some
of
those
buildings
gradually
turning
over
and
being
developed
into
things
that
have
you
know
like
a
multi-story
mixed-use
character,
where
you've
got
your
retail
at
ground
floor
and,
like
you
know,
a
dentist's
office
on
the
second
floor
and
a
couple
floors
of
housing,
you
know
whatever
it
is
right,
the
that
sort
of
you
know
a
thriving
town
like
I
want,
like
I
sort
of
like
you,
know
italy,
it's
like
what
is
this.
What
are
the
specific
things
we're
doing
to
like?
B
B
You
know
so
anyway.
I
think
that's
something
that
I
at
least
like
would
like
to
convey
to
city
council
as
a
concern
from
myself.
I
don't
know
if
the
rest
of
the
commission
shares
that
concern
and
would
be
want
to
make
sure
that's,
noted
and
conveyed
I
do
want.
There
is
a
lot
that
I
appreciate
about
this.
I
mean
I
really
as
somebody.
B
That's
very
you
know
a
zoning
nerd
and
and
following
this
process,
you
know
notoriously
that
the
history
in
california
is
a
lot
of
cities
have
not
even
engaged
with
this
process
in
good
faith,
you
can
find
hilarious,
but
sad
clips
of
city
councils,
like
literally
there's
a
notorious
clip
of
a
city
council
that
I
will
not
name
where
a
council
member
is
like.
B
Oh,
yes,
you
want
to
pick
the
sites
for
the
housing
inventory
that
won't
get
developed
and
another
council
member
being
like
don't
get
us
sued,
and-
and
so
I
really
appreciate
that
the
staff
is
is
really
you
know
actually
taking
us
seriously
and
producing
an
inventory
where
we're
we're
trying
to
actually
you
know
and
like
every
one
of
these
sites,
even
once
it's
active,
I
think
you
know,
is
meritorious
like
you
know,
you
talk
about
the
one
that
sprung
to
mind
for
me
at
the
san
bruno
pet
hospital,
because
I
take
my
cat
there
and
you
know
it's
directly
on
el
camino,
it's
walking
distance
from
bart.
B
I
mean
this
is
clearly
an
excellent
site.
So
and
just
the
question
is
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
make
this
actually
happen?
You
know
whether
that's
a
city
program
of
relocation,
assistance
for
the
businesses
to
encourage
them,
like
you,
know,
an
incentive
for
them
to
move
out
of
this
site
because
we
want
it
built
right
like
there
should
be
some
specific
thing
we
are
doing.
B
That
makes
these
things
happen
and
then
our
eu
numbers
are
excellent
and
I'm
working
on
an
adu
myself
and
really
appreciate
that
the
city
has
implemented
an
ordinance
for
that.
That
is
second
to
none.
You
know
we
have
not
imposed
frivolous.
You
know,
like
some.
Some
cities
have
basically
done
the
absolute
bare
minimum
of
what
the
state
forced
them
to,
and
you
know
we
haven't
posed
any
additional
height
limits
on
the
adus
that
you
can
do
a
second
story
within
your
accessory
unit.
B
So
I
think,
there's
a
there's
a
lot
to
praise
here.
I
really
appreciate
the
stat
the
work
that
staff
is
putting
into
it.
I
just
you
know,
because
I
really
have
some
serious
concerns
about
this
table.
Three
tcp
and
other
sites
list
with
that.
Are
there
any
other
comments
from
commissioner
morgan
yeah.
F
I'm
just
wondering
what
what
we're
not
doing
that
the
other
cities
are
doing
like
you.
Look
at
the
development,
that's
going
on
new
braves
san,
carlos
all
the
other
cities
on
the
bank.
There's
development,
even
south
san
francisco
they're
building
like
crazy,
but
everything
in
hamburgla
seems
to
be
at
a
standstill.
F
A
Guess
I
guess
you,
I
think
a
lot
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
happening.
So
you
know
we
just
recently
approved
the
multi-story
development
at
732,
740
san
bruno
avenue,
so
hopefully
they'll
move
forward,
and
then
we
have
the
application
number
170
san
bernardino
avenue
that
one's
working
you
know
right
across
from
111.
A
We
have
a
new
application
in
for
111,
so
those
are
both
by
caltrain
and
then
we
have
another
application
and
at
840
san
bernardino
avenue
the
you
know,
we
will
be
getting
the
tanforan
master
plan
later
this
summer,
and
so
they
have
guaranteed.
You
know
that
they
will
be
developing
the
thousand
units
that
we
are
requesting,
and
you
know
with
with
the
at
least
15
affordable.
A
We've
got
the
two
high
school
sites
involved
and
and
crestmore
we
have
applications
in
for
both
of
those
for
single
family
residential.
So
there
there's
a
lot
going
on
and
then
we
have
the
other
entitled
projects
which
seem
to
have
stalled
at
271
el
camino,
but
we've
also
had
other
developer
interests.
Where
you
know
people
have
brought.
A
In
actual,
you
know
preliminary
plans
for
for
some
of
the
sites
that
are
in
the
site's
inventory,
so
we
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
pent-up
demand
and
interest
in
the
site,
so
I
think
I
I
think
I
think
we're
getting
there.
I
think
you
know.
Perhaps
you
know
our
you
know
our
it
took
a
while
to
get
a
tcp
plan.
A
You
know
done
and
the
voter
initiative
so
that
that's
a
hurdle
that
other
communities
you
know
didn't
have
in
place
that
you
know
needed
to
be
lifted
first
for
for
a
high
height
limit,
and
then,
of
course
we
do
have
the
as
commission
vice
chair,
madden
mentioned.
We
do
have
the
the
the
challenge
of
the
airport
as
well,
both
with
my
heights
and
the
noise
which
some
of
the
other
communities
don't
have,
but
anyway,
I
think
I
think
you'll
be
pleasantly
surprised
with
all
the
activity.
A
B
A
B
On
the
the
height
limits
I
mean
my
I
mean,
and
again
I
mean
this
is
a
program
that
we
could
discuss,
including
here
you
know,
the
noise
limitations
have
been
a
concern
for
for
me
living
in
the
belair
neighborhood,
because
we
are
the
neighborhood
that's
most
affected
by
that.
Historically,
on
the
east
side
of
bel
air,
it
was
effectively
illegal
to
add
housing
because
of
the
you.
You
could
not
intensify
the
use
because
of
the.
I
believe
I
think
it's
the
80..
B
I
believe
my
understanding
is
that
we
concluded
that
edu's
are
now
exempt
from
that,
because
state
law
overrode
the
agreement
with
the
airport
land
use
commission,
but
you
still
couldn't.
I
think
it
would
exclude
an
sb9
duplex,
because
the
duplex
is
not
anyway.
Anyways
like
these
there's
been
these
various
restrictions,
and
you
know
I've
suggested
it
before
and
I'd
suggest
again.
We
have
the
example
of
the
newer
project
in
south
san
francisco,
where
they
negotiated
a
kind
of
new
understanding,
but
it
was
a
one-off
thing
and
I'm
just
pointing
at
that
and
going
well.
B
Why
isn't
this?
The
new
rule
for
everything,
like
you,
have
an
agreement
where
we
say
the
people
who
live
here
will
not
sue
the
airport
over
noise
because
they
moved
in
and
they
knew
there
was
an
airport
there
and
you
know,
like
you,
just
get
in
a
covenant
on
the
property,
and
so
you
know,
if
you
want
to
say:
okay,
here's
like
a
program
that
frees
up
a
housing
production
in
a
you
know:
the
noise
contour
affected
area
of
san
bruno.
B
Well,
there
you
go,
and
you
know
like
the
the
airport
agreed
to
it
at
least
once
so.
You
know
we
can
do
that
for
the
whole
of
bayshore
circle
for
the
whole
of
bel
air
so
and
on
the
heights.
My
understanding
is
that
the
I
mean,
I
don't
think
anybody
is
discussing.
You
know
in
bel
air.
If
you
went
to
three
stories,
I
think
where
I
don't
know
whether
we
are
two
or
three
we
might.
B
B
I
think
that
the
the
land
use
height
limit
is
already
higher
than
I
think,
even
five
stories
at
the
east
side
of
town
like
it's,
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
build
like
a
20-story
building,
obviously,
but
I
don't
think
anybody
is
anticipating
height
limits
anywhere
in
san
bruno.
That
would
hit
the
height
cap.
It's
pretty
much
all
the
noise
that's
relevant.
You
know,
like.
I
think
that
the
I
know
I've
looked
at
the
airport
land
use
plan.
B
It
was
like
the
the
number
for
height
along
el
camino
was
more
like
12
or
15
stories,
and
nobody,
you
know,
like
you
know
we're
already
at
five.
If
you
had
some
kind
of
density
bonus
thing
that
took
it
to
seven,
you
still
have
to
like
double
it
before
you
hit
the
airport
height
cap.
As
my
recollection,
I'm
not.
I
don't
think
that's
really
a
concern
for
that,
but
yeah
I
mean
does
our?
B
Does
our
housing
element
call
out
the
the
plan
to
extend
the
tcp
five
story
for
the
whole
length
of
el
camino,
because
that
also,
you
know
changing
the
san
bruno
pet
hospital
site,
which
is
currently
three
to
a
five?
Would
make
it
more
attractive?
One
would
think
so
be
sort
of
another
piece
of
evidence
that
we're
doing
something
to
make
this
qualify.
C
Yeah,
so
one
of
the
things
is,
we
have
not
gone
into
detail
about
the
programs
that
that
we
are.
You
know,
envisioning,
for
this
draft
and
one
of
those
programs
is
to
evaluate
and
start
the
process
for
seeing
the
feasibility
of
raising
the
height
limits
along
el
camino
real.
C
So
right
now
the
stretch
of
the
alchemy
real
between
crystal
springs
and
the
380
freeway
is
within
the
tcp,
and
so
everything
else
on
el
camino,
real
north
and
south
of
that
is
not
in
the
tcp
and
is
subject
to
the
50
foot.
Three
story
height
limit,
and
so
we
do
have
a
a
program
to
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
whether
or
not
the
you
know
the
city
of
san
bruno
has
the
stomach
to
raise
those
height
limits
there,
and
so
that
is.
That
is
a
program
we
are
envisioning.
B
Okay,
well
that's
great
as
long
as
that's
moving
forwards.
I
don't
think
I
have
anything
else
at
this
time
if
any
of
the
other
commissioners
have
any
further
questions
comments,
not
seeing
any
hands,
do
we
have
any
public
contributions
at
this
time.
A
There
are
no
chair
hands
raised
here.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
madeline
all
right,
obviously,
no
specific
action
on
this
at
this
time.
Since
it's
a
study
session,
do
we
even
need
like
a
motion
to
close
the
hearing,
or
are
we
just
good
to
move
on.
B
All
righty
items
from
staff
do
we
have
any.
A
No,
I
just
did
want
to
inform
you
that
we
are
planning
to
cancel
the
july
arc
meeting.
We
do
not
have
any
agenda
items
at
this
at
this
time.
B
Seeing
none
our
next
regular
meeting
is,
I
believe,
july.
19Th
2022
at
7
p.m.
Our
meeting
adjourned.
Thank
you
all.
So
much
for
your
time.