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From YouTube: San Bruno Planning Commission Meeting April 16, 2013
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San Bruno Planning Commission Meeting April 16, 2013
Whole Meeting
D
A
A
A
Okay
item
five
public
hearings:
I
have
a
number
a
is
a
request
for
temporary
use,
permit
to
off-site
construction
staging
areas
within
the
crestmore
neighborhood
per
Section.
Twelve.
Eighty
four
point:
zero:
three:
zero
south
of
the
same
bring
improvement
hat
so
we're
going
to
municipal
code.
The
antisera
knows
the
applicant
and
staff
report.
Please.
B
Commissioner
bsod
and
planning
commissioners.
This
first
item
on
your
agenda
has
to
do
with
a
temporary
use.
Permit
the
city
of
San
Bruno
is
the
applicant
in
this
case,
and
the
staff
has
assured
that
there's
been
proper
and
legal
noticing.
The
the
request
for
a
temporary
use
permit
for
the
continued
use
of
to
staging
areas
within
the
crest
for
neighborhood
is
an
item
that
is
exempt
from
the
California
Environmental
Quality
Act.
B
The
two
locations
are
located
within
the
crestmore
neighborhood
one
is
located
at
1999
Earl
Avenue,
which
is
the
city
fire
station
number
52,
and
this
is
located
on
the
northeast
corner
of
smith,
lane
and
Avenue.
The
second
location
is
property
owned
by
the
state
of
California,
and
it's
located
on
the
southwestern
corner
of
san
bruno
avenue,
west
of
glenview,
dr
and
skyline
boulevard.
B
These
two
off-site
staging
areas
have
been
used
for
some
time,
and
the
item
is
before
you
tonight
because
there's
a
requirement
in
our
municipal
code
that
there
be
an
application
for
a
one-year
extension.
These
two
off-site
staging
areas
have
been
used
for
the
rebuild
of
the
crestmore
area.
Since
the
fire
of
September
2010,
the
intent
is
to
allow
continued
use
of
these
two
sites
for
infrastructure
construction.
B
The
staff
has
looked
at
the
circumstances
involved
and,
in
fact,
has
added
to
the
conditions.
Since
the
last
time
you
looked
at
this
to
address
some
concerns.
For
example,
you
notice,
under
the
proposed
conditions
that
we've
added
some
strengthening
of
conditions
to
address
some
concerns
about
dirt,
coming
on
to
the
nearby
streets
say,
for
example,
on
Glen
View
Drive
and
we're
requiring
under
condition
3
in
the
proposed
conditions
of
approval
that
there
be
decomposed
granite
or
other
rock.
B
That
would
be
placed
at
the
exit
points
at
the
ingress
egress
points
to
address
dirt
that
may
go
on
to
the
road
ways
to
better
assure
a
clean
roadway
system
in
the
surrounding
area.
With
the
proposed
conditions,
we
have
nine
conditions
in
the
staff
report.
We
believe
that
the
required
findings
for
temporary
use
permit
can
be
made.
B
The
required
findings
include
that,
under
the
circumstances
of
the
particular
case
again,
given
the
proposed
conditions
of
approval
would
not
be
detrimental
to
the
health,
safety,
morals,
comfort
and
general
welfare
of
the
persons
residing
or
working
in
the
neighborhood
that
the
proposed
use
will
not
be
injurious
or
detrimental
to
property
and
improvements
in
the
neighborhood
or
to
the
general
welfare
of
the
city,
and
that
the
proposed
use
will
be
consistent
with
a
general
plan.
The
the
conditions.
B
Again,
there
are
nine
conditions
and
I'll
summarize
some
of
them
for
you
to
give
you
kind
of
a
sense
of
some
of
the
conditions
again
condition
3
among
the
nine
would
require
that
the
decomposed,
granite
or
other
rock
be
be
placed
at
the
entry
locations
to
glenview
dr
at
the
one
staging
location.
Another
condition
condition
for
requires
that
the
storage
yard
gates
shall
be
secured
to
to
avoid
them
from
being
opened
by
potentially
high
winds
in
the
neighborhood
condition.
5
requires
that
the
applicant
maintain
the
construction
staging
area
in
a
clean
and
orderly
condition.
B
Condition
eight
indicates
that
the
applicant
shall
repair
any
damage
to
the
parking
lot
area
at
1999,
Earl
Avenue
again
the
fire
station
number
52
site
and
that
condition
number
nine
is
stated
to
say
that
the
applicant
shall
comply
with
all
best
management
practices
for
stormwater
pollution
prevention.
So
again
this
evening,
we're
recommending
that
you
go
ahead
and
approve
this
temporary
use
permit
for
one
year.
B
We
believe,
based
on
the
information
we've
received
from
the
project
manager,
that
the
one-year
extension
basically
from
april
2013
through
april
2014,
would
cover
this
next
phase
in
terms
of
infrastructure,
construction
and
required
staging
areas
to
support
that,
as
you
have
any
additional
questions
regarding
the
details
of
the
project
or
perhaps
the
schedule.
Mr.
Burroughs
is
here
in
the
audience
tonight
and
would
be
happy
to
respond
to
your
questions.
That
concludes
my
report.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
E
A
Used
for
one
of
the
earlier
projects,
our
phase,
one
water
project,
which
was
up
at
Smith,
but
for
this
last
phase
of
work
it
wasn't
utilized
okay.
My
question
there
would
be
the
is
there
any
reason
why
we're
not
using
the
northern
part
of
the
parking
lot
instead
of
the
southern
part.
So
we're
not
right
up
against
the
residential
house
and
may
rather
impact
firehouse
than
the
to
the
residential
house.
A
B
A
F
A
D
A
G
You
and
good
evening,
as
you
heard,
the
application
is
for
renewal
of
a
use
permit
that
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
in
2009
for
a
condominium
conversion,
so
a
conversion
from
an
apartment
complex
into
a
condominium
for
sale
product.
So
I'd
like
to
briefly
go
over
the
background
of
the
project
to
refresh
your
memory
a
little
bit.
This
is
a
48
unit
apartment
complex,
it's
at
the
corner
of
Whitman
way
and
Portland
drive.
G
It
was
built
in
nineteen
sixty
four
and
until
the
recent
improvements
there
were
very
few
improvements
to
the
site
over
all
of
those
years,
as
well
as
some
deferred
maintenance
I'm
in
1981
in
1982.
The
previous
owners
were
approved
for
a
tentative
and
final
tract
map
to
subdivide
the
property
into
condominiums.
However,
at
that
time
they
elected
not
to
proceed
with
the
conversion,
so
that
map
is
still
in
effect.
G
It
was
recorded
and
is
a
legally
binding
document,
but
here
in
San
Bruno
they
are
also
required
to
have
a
use
permit
or
a
local
approval
to
proceed
with
the
condominium
conversion.
So
back
then,
in
nineteen
81
and
82
do
the
use
permit
from
that
time.
Was
withdrawn
and
so
any
future
conversion
to
condominiums
required
a
use
permit,
and
so
that
subdivision
approval
is
in
effect,
but
the
use
permit
was
not
in
effect,
so
that
set
the
context
for
the
most
recent
owners
in
2009.
G
These
current
owners
applied
for
an
architectural
review
permit
and
the
use
permit
to
upgrade
the
exterior
of
the
site
and
also
finish
the
conversion
process.
The
overall
project
was
always
intended
in
two
phases.
The
first
was
to
be
the
exterior
improvements
with
the
second
phase
to
be
the
interior,
remodel
of
the
units
and
the
conversion.
The
legal
conversion
from
apartments
to
condominiums.
G
So,
prior
to
that
date,
the
applicant
requested
a
renewal
of
the
use
permit.
The
city's
municipal
code
outlines
the
provisions
for
renewal
of
a
use
permit,
and
in
this
case
the
use
permit
can
be
renewed
until
December
of
2013
so
december
of
this
year.
That
were
in
now
for
a
total
of
four
years
from
the
original
approval
in
2009.
G
So
in
order
to
best
or
to
activate
the
use
permit
for
the
condominium
conversion,
the
applicant
would
have
to
meet
all
of
the
conditions
of
approval
and
pull
a
building
permit
prior
to
the
expiration.
So
that's
the
trigger
of
the
use
permit
going
into
effect
and
the
condominium
conversion.
Actually
starting
is
the
pole
that
building
permit
and
so
I'd
like
to
review
the
applicants
proposed
phasing
for
the
condominium
conversion
process.
G
The
first
step
in
the
conversion
process
would
be
two
meetings
for
tenants
and
neighbors.
This
is
to
implement
some
of
the
conditions
of
approval
from
2009,
as
well
as
to
meet
the
municipal
code
requirements,
so
this
would
include
tenants
and
neighbors,
and
the
Planning
Commission
requested
that
neighbors
be
included
in
these
meetings
at
the
previous
Planning
Commission
hearing
in
2009.
So
if
neighbors
were
interested,
they
would
be
invited
as
well.
So
these
meetings
would
take
place
this
July
of
2013.
G
They
would
be
offered
on
two
different
nights
to
accommodate
different
schedules
with
the
different,
with
the
same
content
being
covered
on
two
different
nights.
The
topic
is
at
that
meeting
would
include
the
items
in
the
bullet
points
here
above
the
table,
and
that
would
be
a
review
of
the
schedule
of
the
move
out,
notices,
the
construction
and
the
sales
schedule,
a
contact
person
during
construction
for
the
interior,
remodel
of
the
units,
the
remembering
of
the
units.
G
You
may
recall
that
the
fire
department
is
requiring
that
the
units
be
remembered
as
part
of
the
conversion
process,
so
that
aids,
the
right
now
they're
just
numbered
from
your
like
100
straight
through
and
so
they're
going
to
be
remembered.
So
it's
easier
for
safety
personnel
to
locate
the
units
according
to
buildings,
floors
and
unit
numbers.
G
The
Municipal
Code
also
requires
assistance
to
the
tenants,
including
a
comprehensive
market
survey
of
available
rental
option,
so
that
has
to
be
provided
by
a
qualified
professional
to
them
and
then
a
condition
of
approval
was
included
in
2009
to
inform
the
applicant
of
affordable
housing
programs
that
are
available
to
them,
and
so
you
may
recall
this
discussion.
These
are
formal,
affordable
housing
programs
with
income
restrictions.
G
G
You
know
with
changes
if
they
were
approved
by
the
director,
but
the
the
phase,
one
dates
really
would
be
set
if
the
renewal
was
approved
tonight
and
so
I'd
like
to
walk
through
those
so
that
you
can
understand
how
this
would
be
implemented
and
how
the
conditions
of
approval
would
come
into
effect.
So
if
we
look
at
phase
one
on
the
table,
you
can
see.
G
So
would
be
specific
to
those
folks,
and
the
idea
of
that
first
meeting
would
be
to
have
a
qualified
professional
in
attendance,
so
that
would
be
somebody
like
a
broker.
Somebody
that's
familiar
with
the
commercial
real
estate
market
that
would
be
approved
by
staff
in
advance
and
that
person
would
be
required
to
be
in
attendance
to
help
those
residents
in
that
phase
understand
what
their
housing
options
are,
provide
them
with
some
choices.
G
And
then,
if
that
happens,
then
they
would
be
able
to
begin
construction
of
the
remodeling
of
the
units
of
that
phase
of
the
project.
They
expect
that
to
take
about
four
months
and
then
those
units
from
that
phase
would
be
released
to
the
market,
so
they'd
be
put
up
for
sale
as
condominiums
in
February
of
2014.
G
G
So
this
approach
of
this
kind
of
meeting
schedule
and
notice
and
relocation
benefits
would
continue
until
the
conversion
is
complete
and
that
is
expected
to
happen
in
early
2015.
So
it's
basically,
the
conversion
process
really
starts
in
August
with
the
notice
of
this
year
and
continues
on
until
februari
of
2015,
when
the
last
phase
of
you
know
is
expected
to
be
released
into
the
market
for
sale.
So,
as
you
will
recall,
the
tenant
relocation
benefits
are
a
very
important
part
of
the
conversion
process
and
they
are
included
as
Exhibit
D
in
the
staff
report.
G
This
is
the
same
language
that
was
included
in
the
original
approval
in
2009.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
included
in
your
packet
so
that
you
would
be
reminded
what
was
approved
at
that
time
and
the
public
and
the
tenants
would
have
easy
access
to
those
relocation
benefits.
So
that's!
That's
in
your
exhibit
d,
I'd
like
to
turn
now
to
public
comments
for
the
project
staff
sent
the
required
legal
notice
to
every
all
the
property
owners
within
300
feet
and
posted
notice
in
the
area
of
the
shelter
creek
complex.
G
The
condominium
conversion
is
related
to
the
inside
of
the
project
in
the
legal
conversion
to
two
for
sale
units.
This
gentleman
did
not
have
any
other
questions
or
concerns,
so
I
would
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
conditions
of
approval.
This
is
a
renewal
of
a
previously
approved
use
permit,
so
staff
has
not
proposed
any
substantial
changes
to
the
conditions
of
approval.
However,
we
do
propose
some
new
language
to
help,
explain
or
clarify
how
the
conditions
would
be
met.
G
So,
as
we've
been
working
with
the
owners
through
this
process
in
preparation
for
the
conversion,
we
realize
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
explain
some
of
these
items
both
to
the
Planning
Commission,
as
well
as
to
the
residents
and
to
the
public,
so
people
will
know
what
to
expect
as
the
project
moves
forward.
So,
if
you
want
to
turn
to
your
conditions
of
in
the
staff
report,
you
will
see
that
the
2009
language
is
included
in
the
same
order
and
with
the
same
text
that
was
previously
approved.
G
There
are
some
minor
changes
in
regards
to
items
that
are
outdated
and
striking
out
the
architectural
review
permit,
for
example,
that
was
previously
approved
and
is
now
almost
complete,
and
then
new
language
is
included
here
in
bold
text.
Okay,
so,
as
you
go
through,
you
can
see
that
we've
made
some
changes
to
explain
how
some
of
the
items
are
going
to
be
implemented.
There
are
several
references
to
Exhibit
B
and
that's
the
table
and
the
exhibit
that
we
just
looked
at
so
when
people
are
looking
at
the
conditions
of
approval.
G
They
have
a
reference
point,
so
they
know
kind
of
what
to
look
up
to
see
how
that
particular
condition
is
proposed
to
be
implemented.
We've
also
included
in
the
couple
cases
and
some
triggers
so
the
time
at
which
that
item
has
to
happen.
For
example,
I'm
a
trigger
of
an
action
happening
before
the
building
permit
issuance
for
phase
1,
and
so
staff
has
attempted
to
improve
the
clarity
of
some
of
these
conditions
to
make
it
easier
for
implementation
as
a
project
moves
forward.
G
So
in
in
looking
at
the
renewal
requests
staff
analyzed
the
materials
that
were
provided
by
the
applicant,
we
reviewed
the
code
requirements
and
the
municipal
code
authority
for
renewal,
as
well
as
state
law
requirements,
relocation,
benefits
and
review
the
project
history.
Up
to
this
time,
staff
does
recommend
that
the
Planning
Commission
grant
the
renewal
of
the
use
permit,
based
on
the
findings
of
fact
that
are
in
the
staff
report
and
the
revised
conditions
of
approval
with
the
clarifications
in
the
bold
language.
G
G
The
draft
see
cnrs
have
been
received
by
staff,
so
we
had
the
initial
draft
at
the
time
of
the
2009
approval,
and
then
we've
received
a
revised
draft
since
that
time
and
then
the
actual
creation
of
the
HOA
as
I
understand.
It
is
a
legal
kind
of
question
of
when
that
happens
in
the
exact
timing.
That
I
believe
is,
is
I'm
regulated
by
the
department
of
real
estate,
but
the
applicant,
or
perhaps
the
city
attorney,
could
elaborate
if,
if
you'd
like.
H
Through
the
chair
that
is
correct,
it
is
prescribed
by
the
department
of
real
estate.
I,
don't
actually
have
the
specific
number
of
days
in
mind,
but
it's
it's
triggered
by
other
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
condominium
conversion
process
and
I'm.
Sorry,
maybe
the
applicant
knows
the
answer
to
that
question,
but
obviously
the
CCN
RS
are
developed
and
have
to
be
approved
by
the
dr
e
before
any
of
the
Lots
go
on
the
on
the
market.
Thank.
C
H
How're
you
guys
to
take
the
time
to
attend
to
our
request
and
we
are
very
excited
to
really
get
to
the
project
and
get
48
families
into
the
apartments.
Now
it's
really
very
interesting
and
we
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
money
on
it
to
make
it
worth
the
new
people
to
come
in
and
live
in
there
as
homeowners.
A
F
F
There
I
was
planning
on
doing
the
same
during
the
past
two
failed
attempts
to
convert
the
city
had
a
heart,
then
we'll
see
if
we,
you
have
a
heart
now
by
your
actions
tonight
back
then
they
offered
me
above
and
beyond
what
the
state
allowed,
which
that's
all
you're,
offering
us
you're,
offering
us
nothing,
but
what
the
state
makes
you
offer
us.
So,
let's
get
that
straight
and
the
last
failed
attempt
I
was
offered
a
hundred
dollars
a
month
for
every
month,
I've
been
there.
F
That's
a
lot
of
money,
I
feel
I'm
getting
kicked
out
of
San
Bruno
right
now,
that's
a
fact,
and
everybody
here
is
getting
kicked
out
of
San
Bruno
on
all
47
of
my
fellow
residents
are
getting
kicked
out
of
San
Bruno,
because
the
rents
are
sky-high
now
in
san
bruno
for
apartments.
They
are
not
anywhere
near
what
they
were
in
19
in
2009.
They
are
as
five
to
seven
hundred
dollars
more
a
month.
F
F
F
My
name
is
James
O'connor
I
live
in
apartment,
136,
@
2081
Whitman
way,
and
my
concern
is
primarily
what
I
see
going
on
around
me.
I've
been
a
tenant
there
for
the
last
two
years,
I've
been
through
the
process
of
the
conversion,
and
at
this
time
I'm
looking
around
me
I
see
elements
of
the
conversion
they
put
up
to
address
issues
in
the
building
that
are
already
deteriorating.
Some
of
these
items
have
only
been
up
six
or
eight
months.
F
The
wall
sconces
around
the
buildings
they've
installed
a
fire
suppression
system
which
is
simply
exposed
pipes
running
all
through
the
building,
they've
actually
broken
the
fire
barriers
between
walls
to
allow
the
pipes
to
come
through
and
never
sealed.
The
barriers
back
up.
There's
I
cannot
believe
that
the
regardless
of
the
exhibit
see
the
intent
of
the
letter
to
provide
you
with
information
about
the
quality
of
the
product
and
workmanship.
F
I've
lived
there
for
two
years
and
I
don't
see
either
one
primarily
the
labor
has
been
provided
by
day
laborers
with
possibly
one
or
two
knowledgeable
individuals
working
with
them.
The
quality
of
the
finish
work
is
not
existent.
We
it's
unbelievable.
What
these
contractors
have
gotten
up
and
walked
away
from
so
I'm
really
concerned
with
the
overall
project
and
how
it's
going
to
end
up
seeing
the
quality
of
the
input
of
labor
and
the
materials
that
are
existing
in
the
building
at
this
time,.
I
My
name
is
Kevin
duka
I've
been
in
construction,
it's
pretty
much
retired
from
it
for
30
years
and
I
pretty
much
washed.
All
the
labor
be
in
time
there
I've
lost
stuff
being
uncovered
with
dry,
rot
under
it
and
then
covered
with
nobody
even
looking
at
it.
I
mean
these
guys
has
just
been
covering
up
stuff
and
nobody's
looking
at
it
and
I.
I
think
that
the
tenants
themselves
should
be
owned.
Elisa
firm
date,
you
know
when
they're
gonna
be
half
a
move
out,
because
this
august
first
thing
ain't,
gonna
happen
and
I
already
know.
I
If
I
talked
to
the
guy
said
that
were
working
out
there,
they
were
getting
paid
cash.
Okay,
so
that's
not
right!
I'm,
a
union
man
I,
was
Union,
my
whole
life,
and
these
guys
that
were
working
out
there
we're
getting
paid
cash
and
they
didn't
even
know
what
they
were
doing.
I
mean
I,
had
to
give
a
guy.
I
gave
guys
books
out
there
how
to
do
plaster,
add
a
patch
plaster
how
to
do
this
and
how
to
do
that.
I
They
didn't
even
know
what
they
were
doing
and
now
these
guys
are
going
to
come
in
here
and
do
what
you
know.
I
mean
so
far
the
exterior.
If
you
go
down
the
first
and
second
floor
for
a
building,
you'll,
look
up
and
you'll
see
plaster
ceilings
that
hold
up
with
screws
and
washers
with
cracks
in
them
all
the
way
through.
I
I
Unfortunately,
because
I've
been
disabled,
I've
been
watching
these
guys
and
it's
the
worst
labor
I've
ever
seen
in
my
life,
and
for
these
guys
to
start
going
into
the
interior
is
ridiculous
because
they
haven't
even
done
anything
right
on
the
exterior.
So
that's
song,
you
know.
Basically
you
know
I
mean
we
were
told
we're
going
to
get
a
certain
day
and
we've
been
driving
on
through
the
mud
for
one
or
two
more
years
and
it's
kind
of
stressful.
You
know
I
got
my
kids
living
around
the
corner.
I
You
know
what
I'm
saying
and
my
kids,
you
know,
live
around
a
corner
with
their
mother
and
it's
convenient
for
me,
but
I'll
have
to
move
away
if
I
believe,
but
that's
irrelevant.
The
bottom
line
is
here
is
the
labor.
There
has
been
done
by
non-union
labor
and
a
lot
of
it's
been
done
in
cash
under
the
table
and
the
reason
why
the
general
contractor
left
is
because
he
wasn't
getting
paid
every
time
he
uncovered
something
he
found
dry
rot
and
every
time
he
found
dry
rot.
I
He
would
ask
the
owner,
you
know
he
needs
more
money
and
he
didn't
get
paid.
So
that's
why
he
pulled
out.
You
know:
I
used
to
run
work.
I
ran
her
for
16
years
for
people
like
web
horror,
Dinwiddie
all
high-end
companies
and
I
know
what
I'm
talking
about
so
I
think
these
guys
that
are
doing
the
job
right
now
so
far,
I
haven't
met
qualifications
to
even
do
the
exterior
right,
let
alone
do
the
anterior
right
and
that's
all
I
gotta
say
about
that.
Thank.
E
Through
the
chair
Kevin
the
concerns
of
the
residents
as
far
as
the
construction,
or
you
know,
the
exterior
renovation,
if
you
will
certainly
he
raises
a
red
flag
for
me
as
I've
been
in
construction
pretty
much
my
whole.
My
whole
life
is
there.
I
would
have
to
assume
that
with
the
renovation
on
the
exterior
there
had
to
have
been
some
sort
of
inspections.
Do
the
building
department
I
would
assume.
Would
that
be
correct?
It
has
a
question
for
staff.
E
How
would
we
or
how
would
the
building
department
you
know
be
able
to
expect
something
like
that
words
been
covered
uncovered
and
covered?
You
know
saying
it's
very
difficult,
so
I'm
kind
of
concerned
about
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
residence
in
regards
to
the
construction
part
of
this
or
the
renovation
part
on
the
exterior
alone.
That
you
know
me
makes
me
certainly
give
a
reason
for
pause
and
concern.
B
You
know
again,
as
as
work
is
being
done
at
that
site
with
benefit
of
a
permit.
There
would
be
regular
inspections
and
the
contractor
we
need
to
contact
our
building
division,
request
inspections
in
order
to
have
a
final
so,
prior
to
any
final
inspection
on
the
site
on
the
project.
We
would
certainly
do
the
required
inspections.
E
E
But
I
mean,
as
far
as
the
the
work
is
concerned,
where
you
know
they're
screwed,
you
know
screws
with
washers
that
are
cracks
going
all
the
way
down
and
things
of
that
nature
I
mean
if
that's
fairly
obvious
to
the
naked
eye.
I
would
think
that
perhaps
maybe
another
inspection
of
whatever
that
work
that
was
performed
might
be
in
order
to
make
sure
if
that
stuff
is
okay.
E
B
G
To
elaborate
on
the
issue
of
the
dry
rot,
we
did
receive
a
concern
about
the
dry,
rot
conditions,
and
so
the
building
official
actually
opened
a
code
enforcement
case
and
did
go
out
to
the
site
and
review
some
of
those
dry
rot
conditions
and
a
separate
building
permit
was
issued
to
alleviate
those.
So
several
issues
were
Olivier,
tada,
prett
building
permit.
G
There
was
also
a
building
condition
report
that
was
done
by
an
engineer
at
the
time
of
the
initial
submit
all
for
the
condominium
conversion
as
a
required
item
for
the
application,
and
so
that
is
in
the
file.
So
there's
dry
rot
conditions
that
were
identified
in
that
report
that
have
to
be
rectified.
That's
actually
one
of
the
conditions
of
approval
for
the
project,
so
the
applicant
will
be
required
to
submit
documentation
to
staff
demonstrating
how
those
dry
rot
conditions
were
remedied
by
whom
and
at
what
time.
So
that's
a
condition.
That's
on
the
project.
G
The
majority
of
that
that
staff
became
aware
of,
I
believe,
is
now
repaired
and
that
building
permit
has
been
final
for
that
separate
dry,
rot
work.
There
was
a
very
first
dry,
rot
repair
permit
the
very
first
building
permit
that
was
issued
on
the
project,
and
some
of
that
was
wrapped
up
into
a
future
phase.
So
that's
why
staff
out
of
that
condition
that
all
dry
rot
work
had
to
be
summarized
and
submitted
back
to
us
to
make
sure
we
could
see
that
all
of
those
items
had
been
addressed
and.
I
A
A
C
J
Absolutely
not
we've
had
contractors,
we
part
of
what
we're
going
to
be
having
to
do
is
when
we
sell
these,
we
have
to
have
all
our
expenses
to
show
as
part
of
otherwise,
with
the
you
know,
we
can't
generate
cash
anyway
and
if
we
don't
have
it
in
our
taxes,
this
is
not
a
company
owned
by
one
person.
It
has
a
bunch
of
members,
it's
a
LLC
with
disparate
number
of
members.
In
it
there
would
be
no
way
to
generate
cash
that
we
that
we
could
do.
We
had
a
we
have
a
contract.
J
We
had
a
contract,
we've
had
multiple
contractors,
we
paid
them.
According
to
the
contract
we
needed
to
have
completion
documents
which
the
city
had
to
provide
before
we
made
the
final
payments.
So
please
keep
in
mind
that
we
are
very
aware
that
over
the
years
condo
projects,
if
they're
not
done
right
of
a
certain
ones,
condo
projects
is
of
a
certain
size
and
you
start
selling
the
units.
J
There's
a
bunch
of
lawyers
that
run
around
after
after
that,
to
try
and
do
class-action
lawsuits
and
for
us
to
to
purposefully
and
willfully
do
something
that
would
leave
us
exposed
would
be
completely
Pennywise
and
pound-foolish
on
our
part.
I
am
absolutely
surprised
as
to
the
claims
that
being
made,
that
we
paid
cash,
because
that
would
make
no
sense
for
us
to
do.
In
fact,
the
fact
that
we
get
the
work
done.
We
have
proof
that
we've
done
it
provides
us
with
some
modicum
of
protection.
J
D
F
E
H
Through
the
chair,
I
think
the
commission
would
have
a
number
of
options.
Of
course
you
could
make
a
motion
to
approve.
You
could
make
a
motion
to
deny,
or
you
could
make
a
motion
to
continue
the
matter
and
request
that
staff
come
back
with
some
additional
information
or
provide
you
with
answers
to
additional
questions
that
you
might
have
and
to
address
some
of
the
issues
that
came
up
today.
So
those
are
three
of
the
alternatives
there
there
might
be
more,
but
those
are
the
three
that
come
immediately
to
mind
through.
C
A
A
Say
I'm
going
to
second
and
I'm
going
to
second
based
on
the
fact
that
these
gentlemen
realize
that
there
is
a
legal
responsibility
to
construct
this
property
correctly,
because
there's
an
ongoing
potential
for
lawsuit.
So
they
already
know
that
now
already.
Assuming
that
my
ability,
the
work
that's
being
done
and
how
they're
being
paid
is
not
all.
A
C
Think
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
here
are
serious
issues.
There
is
a
path
to
remedy
those
issues
and,
at
the
same
time,
there's
a
path
to
go
forward
and
resolve
this
project
and
get
get
a
conversion
accomplished.
That
should
have
been
done
in
2009
if
it
weren't
for
the
economic
recession,
and
so
I
would
argue
for
the
Commission
to
approve
it
and
allow
the
complainants
and
staff
and
other
other
parties
such
as
the
state
labor
interest
to
handle
it
in
the
way.
That's
appropriate.
Thank.
A
A
A
E
Think
it's
a
good
idea,
but
I
am
opposed
to
having
it
done
in
such
a
way
that
it
is
not
up
to
the
standards
and
it
needs
to
be
whether
it's
the
building
code,
Sienna's
or
whatever,
but
there's
yeah,
like
I,
said
I've
been
around
construction
a
long
time.
If
you
hear
this
these
comments
from
residents,
you
know
it
raises
a
red
flag
for
me,
so
I
personally,
wouldn't
need
so
like
to
see.
So
you
know
follow
up
on
the
concerns
that
the
residents
that
came
to
the
meeting
tonight
put
forward.
D
So
I
future
so
I
would
have
proved
this
if
we
could
create
a
conditions
of
approval
whereby
a
member
of
the
building
department
could
meet
with
the
residents
which
they
can
share
their
concerns
to
the
building
department.
And
perhaps
at
that
point
they
can
take
a
look
at
what
areas
of
concern
and
that
it's
either
going
to
be.
That's
built
correctly
or
it's
not
built
correctly,
but
he
brought
up
some
pretty
good
concerns
and
I,
I'm
not
against
the
conversion.
But
I
am
against
shoddy
workmanship.
I.
A
Have
a
question
for
the
city
attorney:
for
me:
these
issues
have
been
brought
up
in
a
public
hearing
in
a
public
record.
Their
public
comment
at
this
point.
If
these
folks
move
ahead
with
this
project
and
don't
correct
these
things,
this
is
like
the
beginning
of
the
basis
of
the
ground,
the
basis
of
a
lawsuit.
If
it's
not
corrected,
would
that
be
correct.
H
Of
well,
it's
very
difficult
to
determine
in
advance
what
somebody
hypothetically
might
might
sue
for.
As
we
all
know,
anyone
can
sue
anyone
for
anything.
They
might
have
a
good
reason.
They
don't
need
any
reason
to
do
it,
so
it's
very
inexpensive
to
file
a
lawsuit.
So,
in
my
view,
is
we
don't
really
have
any
particular
comment
on
the
applicants
assertion
that
they
would
be
exposing
themselves
to
risk
by
doing
or
not
doing
certain
things.
I.
C
C
Having
it
having
been
involved
in
construction
and
construction
management
for
many
years
it
it's
been
my
experience
that
there
are
procedures
and
methods
and
people
to
take
care
of
all
of
these
issues,
separate
from
whether
a
whether
a
condominium
conversion
goes
forth
or
not.
If
the,
if
the
converted,
assuming
the
conversion,
were
to
go
forth,
they
still
have
to
have
the
building
in
good
order
and
I.
C
Think
if
we
direct
the
staff
to
meet
with
the
residents
and
examine
the
areas
that
are
allegedly
out
of
order,
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
would
help.
Having
said
that,
let
me
ask
the
question
of
the
director:
what
do
you
think
about
that?
Is
that
something
that
first
of
all,
is
it
a
reasonable
condition?
And,
secondly,
is
it
something
that
could
be
accomplished.
B
I
think,
what's
more
important,
is
to
to
make
sure
that
these
conditions
are
satisfied
that
the
reconstruction
construction
that
occurs
on
the
site
is
done.
According
to
the
uniform
building
code,
meets
local
and
state
law
requirements.
There
really
a
couple
of
different
ways
to
proceed
with
this.
There
are
conditions
here
that
I
think
would
address
your
concerns.
B
If
you
would
like,
perhaps
to
continue
the
item,
you
could
do
that
as
well,
and
we
could
consult
with
our
chief
building
official
our
building
division
staff
and
get
an
update
in
terms
of
inspections
that
have
been
done
on
the
property,
even
make
sure
that
our
staff
goes
out
and
and
does
an
inspection
at
this
time
or
during
this
interim
period
and
report
back
to
us,
which
then
we
would
report
back
to
you
at
a
subsequent
meeting.
So
we
have
conditions
of
approval
that
I
think
addressed
the
matter.
C
B
We
could
certainly
attempt
to
to
meet
with
tenants.
My
only
concern
is
you
know:
how
do
we
open
that
up
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
how
many
tenants
etc?
We
could
certainly
go
to
the
site.
Do
an
inspection.
We
would
certainly
be
open
to
hearing
from
the
tenants.
There's
no
question
about
that
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
extent
of
comment,
the
level
of
inspection
that
would
ensue,
etc.
B
There's
no
question,
though,
that
our
staff
would
want
to
make
sure
that
the
inspection
is
thorough,
complete
accurate.
So
I
would
offer
again
we've
got
conditions
in
place.
Now
we
could.
You
could
move
forward
with
those
conditions
if
you're
wanting
a
little
bit
more
comfort
in
terms
of
existing
conditions,
we
could
certainly
go
out
to
the
site
direct
our
staff
to
go
out
to
the
site.
Do
a
further
inspection
gather
some
information
from
tenants,
perhaps
people
we
heard
from
tonight
at
this
meeting
and
and
do
some
investigation
summit
level
investigation.