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San Bruno City Council Meeting January 22, 2013
10e. Reusable Bag Ordinance
A
Alright,
we're
going
to
revisit
the
item.
10
e
I
see
mr.
mr.
dean.
Peterson
has
joined
us,
so
that
is
a
way
of
a
second
reading
and
adopt
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
san
bruno,
adding
chapter
10.2.
Five:
reusable
bag
ordinance
to
regulate
the
distribution
of
single-use
carryout
bags
by
retail
establishments
to
title
10
municipal
services
of
the
san
bruno
municipal
code,.
B
Thank
you.
The
city
council
is
January
eighth
meeting
introduced
the
reusable
bag
ordinance
and
since
that
meeting
staff
has
hosted
an
informational
meeting
for
retailers,
as
well
as
an
informational
meeting
for
residents.
Several
business
representatives
attended
that
retail
informational
meeting
and
unfortunately,
we
did
not
have
any
residents
in
attend
the
community
informational
meeting
the
question
that
staff
has
received
from
the
business
owner,
mostly
clarifying
the
ordinance
trying
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
the
exemptions,
as
well
as
the
applicability,
very
specific
questions.
How
does
this
ordinance
apply
to
my
business?
Specific?
B
B
Staff
will
continue
to
outreach
to
residents
with
an
informational
flyer
in
the
utility
bill
insert
as
well
as
hosting
an
additional
informational
meeting
on
March
21st
in
the
evening.
Just
want
to
point
out
that
I
believe
two
copies
of
the
ordinance
were
inadvertently
included.
You
only
need
to
adopt
one
copy
of
this
ordinance.
Dean
peterson
as
well
as
women
long
are
here
from
the
county,
environmental
health
department
and
together
we
would
be
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
of
your
questions.
Any.
C
B
Not
heard
directly
from
the
larger
retail
establishments,
I
have
spoken
with
a
number
of
the
smaller
stores.
I
spoke
with
the
gentleman
at
a
shoe
store,
for
example,
and
he
had
some
questions.
We
did
have
Molly
stones
representative
attend
the
meeting
and
they
were
very
kind
of
up
to
speed
and
ready
to
implement
the
ordinance
but
I
think
dean.
Peterson
has
spoken
with
some
other
larger
retailers
and
can
maybe
also
answer
your
question.
Ok,.
B
C
B
C
And
I've
heard
from
retailers
they
think
that
that's
going
to
be
a
security
nightmare,
because
people
are
going
to
walk
into
their
stores
with
their
own
bags
and
I
and
I
go
in
a
grocery
store
now,
with
a
reusable
bag
and
I
load,
my
groceries
in
it
and
then,
when
I
come
to
the
checkout
stand,
I
I'm,
unload
they're
going
to
have
to
put
they
don't
have
to
put
alarms
on
socks.
You
know
on
little
things
now,
because
people
are
just
I
mean
you're.
It's
open
themselves.
D
Through
the
mayor,
if
I
may
address
that
concern,
obviously
shoplifting
is
a
concern
of
all
retailers
at
any
time
whether
you
have
a
backpack,
where
the
other
purse
you're
able
to
put
items
into
that.
We've
heard
from
target
we've
heard
from
retailers
in
san
jose
in
LA
and
also
in
san
francisco.
They
have
not
had
an
issue
and
they
have
not
seen
an
increase
in
shoplifting.
But
again
that
is
going
to
be
something
that
they
will
need
to
continue
to
be
wary
of,
as
they
are
at
any
our
businesses.
C
D
E
D
E
F
Yeah
I
have
one
question
of
staff,
but
since
you're
at
the
podium
so
don't
have
to
keep
coming
up
and
down,
I
also
went
to
a
small
retailer
and
I
was
asking:
did
you
were
you
notified
answer?
Was
yes,
then
I
said.
So
how
are
you
planning
to
keep
the
records
for
three
years?
Unaware
of
that
I
said:
okay,
well,
you
know
yeah,
you
need
to
charge.
The
customer
was
I'd.
Ask
that
question.
F
If
you
don't
charge
a
customer
for
the
bag,
you
can
be
fine,
didn't
know
that
either
so
I
don't
know
if
that
was
clearly
known
within
the
documents
that
went
out
to
the
retos.
But
this
is
just
an
example.
So
then
interesting
left
we
talked
about
bags.
So
another
question
came
up.
Why
are
we
charging
a
dime
I
said?
Well,
they
say
it's
a
I
guess:
behavior
modification
is
a
great
term
and
then
it
goes
up
to
25
cents,
because
then
people
become
as
you
it
said.
F
The
dime
doesn't
seem
that
relevant,
and
so
then
you
you
up
so
I
said.
Okay,
so
we
went
through
receipt
and
we
went
through
some
bags.
So
his
point
to
me
was,
as
we
have
three
different
bags
here,
this
is
called
bag
number
four.
You
can
then
mark,
because
there
is
a
barcode
nowadays
didn't
know
that-
and
this
is
for
a
500
of
this.
F
For
him
it
is
a
one
point:
four
cents
for
this
bag,
one
point:
seven
cents
for
this
Bank
one
point:
nine
cents
for
this
Bank
for
the
plastic
bag
that
he's
not
on
favor
of
this
I
think
he
told
me
it
was
two
point
seven.
So
in
essence
it's
cheaper
here,
but
his
question
to
me
is
Rico
out
I
charge
people
at
dime,
one
doesn't
cost
me
two
cents.
F
F
Why
are
we
making
money
off
the
consumer
and
who
is
making
that
money?
Is
that
the
business
then
another
part
of
it
came
up?
Well,
if
somebody
comes
in
here
and
spend
75
dollars
for
whatever
they
buy,
I,
don't
want
to
charge
him
for
the
bag.
What
you
have
to
you
could
be
fined
hundred
dollars
for
giving
customer
service.
So
he
wants
to
know
if
I
at
me,
who
owns
the
business
I
heat
I,
don't
he
does
man?
F
D
D
Slightly
more
expensive,
when
we
looked
at
that
I
mean
without
getting
into
a
full
rate
schedule
and
identifying
what
bags
were.
We
did
take
an
average
and
we
were
looking
at
the
larger
paper
bags.
The
number
48
or
the
86
is
I
used
to
be
a
bad
boy
years
ago.
So
I
remember
that
from
back
in
the
day,
these
types
of
bags
would
really
be
considered
more
of
a
protective
bag.
Something
you'd
put
a
bottled
wine
in
or
another
glass
container
to
keep
it
from
bumping
in
and
going.
D
Those
likely
would
not
be
part
of
what
you
would
be
looking
at
for
the
cost.
It's
the
larger
paper
bags
with
the
handles.
They
are
more
expensive
because
they
are
forty
percent
post-consumer,
100%,
recyclable
and
those
on
the
market
are
slightly
more
expensive.
We
took
a
look
at
an
average
and
we
got
this
number
from
the
grocery
sociation,
depending
upon
the
bulk
in
which
you
can
buy
those
bags
range
anywhere
from
eight
cents
to
fifteen
cents,
some
a
little
more
elaborate
it
with
writing
on
it
can
get
more
expensive.
D
It
was
chosen
to
go
with
the
10-cent
minimum
charge,
but
you're
correct.
The
ordinance
does
not
allow
for
special
promotions
for
businesses
simply
to
give
away
the
bag.
This
ordinance
is
is
more
overall
looking
at
getting
society
back
to
a
reusable
type
society,
getting
away
from
a
single
use
or
a
limited
use
society
where
we
use
one
something
once
or
twice,
and
we
simply
throw
it
away
with
a
number
of
people
in
the
Bay
Area.
We
simply
cannot
afford
to
have
that
as
a
sustainable
option
and
that's
the
decision
we
went
with.
F
D
They're
not
yeah,
and
that's
something
that
again
I'm
sorry
to
head
and
that's
something
that
may
not
have
been
completely
well
thought
out,
but
again,
without
getting
into
a
full
rank
schedule
which
we
felt
would
be
really
over
encumbering
and
everyone
trying
to
figure
out
this
size
of
bag.
Is
this
much
the
size
of
bag?
Is
that
much
we
carried
a
minimum
charge
of
ten
cents,
it's
to
change
behavior.
What
they're
finding
in
san
jose
in
los
angeles
around
the
world
are
implementing
this.
D
F
I
appreciate
and
I,
maybe
I
would
do
the
same,
but
but
at
the
same
time
you
know
everybody
has
a
unique
situation
or
maybe
they're
there
have
young
young
children's
are
tending
to.
Maybe
they
have
some
issues
that
require
them,
maybe
that
this
is
a
more
helpful
tool,
so
I
want
to
help
the
environment
and
I
want
to
help
move
things
forward
in
and
take
care
of
things
you
know
interested
enough
at
where
I
was
I
said.
F
Well,
it's
the
same
thing
like
you
raised
a
cigarette
tax
and
he
says
no
Reeko
marlboro
now
has
a
cigarette
called
maverick.
So
in
essence
it's
cheaper.
So
people
don't
stop
smoking
they're,
just
smoking
a
brand
or
quality
that
is
not
as
great
same
thing
with
alcohol.
They
can't
afford
whatever
or
grade.
Sometimes
they
go
down.
F
So
I
want
to
make
sure
these
things
your
address,
because
what
I
want
to
do
is
I
want
to
help
improve
things,
but
I
don't
want
to
help
I,
don't
want
to
hinder
the
community
at
large
and
are
you
talking
about
San,
Jose
I
know
you're
talking
about
la
I'm
talking
about
san
bruno
down
san
mateo
county,
and
so
I
need
to
have
some
more
assurances
as
we
move
forward
with
this,
that
these
type
of
things
are
dress.
I
know
it's
about
going
and
checking
records
during
normal
business
hours.
F
So
my
question
staff
was
who's
normal
business
hours,
the
proprietor,
the
shop
owner
or
the
county.
It's
the
county,
so
I
know
you
there's
a
stipulation
to
make
some
mutual
agreement.
But
you
know
when
you
want
to
get
buy-in,
you
got
to
go
forward
and
work
with
the
people.
They're
running
a
business
or
paying
the
bills
paying
people,
salaries
and
adding
value
to
our
community
went
into
trader
joe's
millbrae
asked
hey.
How
is
this?
How
is
this
going?
5050
now
milbridge
done
it
for
a
little
bit,
but
he
thinks
there's
improvement.
D
Absolutely
and
I
understand
that
and
again
the
commitment
on
the
county's
part,
like
all
the
ordinances
that
we
implement.
It's
a
very
soft
rollout,
we're
there
to
work
with
the
businesses,
we're
there
to
figure
out
what
works,
we're
not
going
to
be
punitive,
and
we
need
to
identify
all
these
issues
as
we
go
through
and
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
right
now
so
I
appreciate
your
comments.
F
G
A
Anyone
else
I
think
we
had
a
similar
discussion
and
it
was
a
lot
more
lively.
When
we
talked
about
the
takeout
containers,
we
had
a
pretty
good
sized
group
of
people
here
a
number
of
times
and
it
was
complaints,
and
we
can't
do
this
and
it's
going
to
cost
me
this
and
what
work
and
we
can't
do
this
mean
we
haven't
heard
a
word
and
it
works
for
the
most
part
in
san
bruno
and
that's
in
bruno,
and
this
is
a
countywide.
A
So
I
think
is:
is
this
a
real
good
thing
for
the
environment
going
forward?
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
doubt
about
that
and
I
think
when
people
get
used
to
it,
just
like
we
did
in
San
Britain
when
we
started
recycling
and
huge
recycling
effort
here
many
years
ago,
you
can
see
the
street
corners
tonight
and
how
much
recycling
is
being
done
and
the
same
thing
with
San
Francisco
San
Francisco
now
have
very
small
garbage
cans
because
they're
recycling
all
of
their
wet
waste,
all
of
their
driveways
to
all
kinds
of
things.
A
So
yeah
we're
going
to
hit
some
bumps
in
the
road
and
I
think
as
long
as
it's
revisited
periodically
to
you
know,
meet
the
level
of
what
the
cooperation
what's
going
on
in
the
future.
It's
a
good
thing
so
overall
sure
there's
always
going
to
be.
You
know
little
questions
here
or
there
and
we'll
have
to
work
through
that,
but
I
think
in
the
bigger
picture.
This
is
the
right
way
to
go
so
I
definitely
support
this
yeah.
F
And
to
cheer,
even
though
I
wanted
to
do
some
homework
to
better
understand,
I'm
in
favor
of
this,
but
I'm
also
in
favor
of
doing
it.
The
right
way-
and
I
know
it's
I
mean
it's
not-
it
was
a
one
size
fit
all
fits
all
and
and
I
just
really
want
to
be
mindful.
Just
like
the
automatic
25
sending
to
go
automatically.
There's
no
I
want
to
revisit
it.
I
want
when
these
questions
are
asking
me
and
where,
let's
just
argument
sake,
say
it's
36:
where
is
the
extra
money
going?
Is
it
going
to
whom?
F
D
D
My
board
of
supervisors
is
asking
the
same
question
and
they
want
to
make
sure
that
when
this
is
getting
ready
to
go
25
cents,
that
I
can
be
there
proving
that
we
have
to
do
it
and
unless
I
have
that
proof,
we're
not
going
to
do
it
so
yeah
so
and
yeah,
and
we
want
to
in
fact
tonight
I
was
down
in
Menlo
Park,
one
of
their
council
members
had
a
very
good
suggestion
for
looking
at.
You
know
future
changes
to
the
ordinance
as
we
look
at
this,
and
so
we
definitely
need
to
do
this.