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San Bruno City Council Meeting April24, 2012
10e. Decommissioning PG&E's Line 132
A
B
Good
evening,
mr.
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council
I'm
Harry
burrows
and
I'm
the
city's
project
manager
for
the
crestmore
reconstruction
project.
Sorry
about
that
item
before
the
city
council
tonight
is
to
present
information
regarding
the
decommissioning
of
pg's
line
132
gas
transmission
pipeline.
The
purpose
of
the
presentation
tonight
is
to
seek
input
from
the
council
and
the
public.
No
action
by
the
City
Council
is
required.
B
B
Following
through
on
that
commitment,
PG&E
applied
for
and
the
city
issued,
an
encroachment
permit
for
work
related
to
the
decommissioning
in
September
of
2011
one
year
after
the
explosion
occurred.
Pge
subsequently
performed
work
on
the
pipeline
that
included
purging
the
line
of
any
trace
gases,
capping
discrete
sections
of
the
pipe
and
installing
fill
tubes
for
future
injection
of
slurry
into
the
abandoned
pipeline.
B
B
Notwithstanding
the
assurances
from
PG&E
the
desire
of
the
community,
since
the
explosion
has
been
to
make
sure
that
the
pipeline
can
never
be
used
again
in
the
future.
For
gas
transmission,
there's
also
been
a
very
vocal
preference
for
many
in
the
neighborhood
to
remove
the
pipeline
from
the
ground
in
its
entirety.
B
The
city's
opposed
to
the
pipeline
remaining
empty
for
two
to
three
years
and
given
the
desires
of
the
community,
has
a
speed
you
need
to
explore.
The
removal
of
the
pipeline,
PG&E
and
city
staff
have
been
in
discussions
for
many
months
regarding
the
pipeline
abandonment.
As
a
result
of
these
discussions,
PG&E
has
provided
an
analysis
of
the
impacts
of
three
potential
scenarios
for
the
pipeline.
B
These
include
a
full
removal
of
the
pipeline
through
the
neighborhood
slurry
filling
of
the
pipeline
through
the
neighborhood
and
what
we
call
a
hybrid
solution
that
involves
removing
portions
of
the
pipeline
as
well
as
filling
portions
of
the
pipeline
through
the
neighborhood
I'll
briefly
describe
each
option
now
the
full
removal
option
involves
removing
of
the
pipe
from
the
ground.
The
work
would
be
done
in
approximately
400
foot
sections,
so
the
total
length
is,
you
know
over
4,000
feet,
we've
broken
into
four
hundred
foot
sections
PG&E
would
concentrate
their
work
in
those
particular
areas.
B
The
root
full
removal
would
limit
the
access
in
some
of
the
narrow
streets.
It
may
involve
removal
of
curb
gutter
and
sidewalk.
In
many
areas,
complete
road
closures
would
be
required
and
traffic
restrictions
would
be
required
as
well.
There
would
be
possible
service
disruptions
for
water
and
sewer
to
some
of
the
residences.
There's
a
possibility
of
some
gas
odors.
There
would
be
a
tremendous
amount
of
dirt
dust
and
disruption,
and
for
about
a
4
and
a
half
month
period,
there
will
be
about
30
workers
on
the
site.
B
This
slide
illustrates
some
of
those
400
foot
work
sections.
Those
are
those
long
lines
red
lines
there,
so
work
would
be
accomplished
within
that
400
foot
section
and
then
it
would
move
to
the
next
section.
The
area
north
of
Claremont
drive
up
to
sneath.
This
portion,
glenview,
where
the
pipeline
runs,
is
very
narrow.
It's
narrower
in
that
section
of
the
neighborhood
that
it
is
to
the
south
the
road
why
the
roadway
to
the
south
is
wider
in
that
area.
B
This
is
picture
illustrates
an
excavation
that
was
made
in
one
area
near
the
pipeline
back
in
last,
September
and
I.
Think
it's
a
good
indication
of
what
those
impacts
would
look
like
this
black
line.
Right
here
represents
an
extension
of
the
curb
line.
So
what
you
can
see
here
is
just
to
excavate
down
to
the
pipeline.
B
They've
had
to
cut
away
some
of
the
sidewalk
and
take
away
the
curb
and
gutter
as
well
they're
about
eight
foot
out
into
the
roadway
with
the
excavation
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
for
the
pipeline
removal,
there's
a
need
to
have
trucks
beside
the
excavation
to
put
the
material
into
also
trucks
beside
the
excavation
to
place
the
pieces
of
pipe
in
as
they
come
out.
So
this
area
over
here
would
be
mostly
taken
up
with
the
work
area,
the
width
of
the
work
area.
B
There
would
be
a
width
of
roadway,
probably
eight
foot
or
so
that
would
be
available
for
emergency
vehicle
access
and
access
for
residents
during
certain
periods
of
the
day.
The
next
slide
illustrates
the
same
thing,
but
just
looking
north,
you
can
see
where
those
gentlemen
are
standing
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
photo
they're
standing
on
just
a
small
portion
of
the
sidewalk.
B
B
The
slurry
will
be
mixed
on
site,
using
a
process
that
essentially
ads
ere
to
create
a
lighter
mix
to
ensure
the
complete
filling
of
the
pipe
yet
will
still
harden
into
a
solid
concrete
mass
so
that
the
pipe
can
never
be
used
again
in
terms
of
impacts
that
has
very
minimal
impacts
to
the
residents,
particularly
compared
to
the
full
removal
option.
Very
little
street
work
will
be
required,
as
I
stated
previously
pge
as
part
of
the
original
work
last
September.
B
B
There
will
be
no
need
for
complete
road
closures
with
the
slurry
filling
option,
but
there
may
be
some
parking
restrictions.
There's
going
to
be
concrete
trucks
and
mixing
tanks
to
provide
for
the
slurry
injection
into
the
pipe
no
gas
odors
are
anticipated.
However,
in
the
event
that
there
are
some
present
pge
will
have
equipment
there
to
scrub
any
odors
coming
out
of
the
pipe.
B
The
last
act
option
that
we
asked
them
to
explore
is
what
we're
calling
the
hybrid
option
and
the
theory
behind
this
option
is.
Can
we
achieve
a
little
bit
of
both
meeting
some
of
the
public's
desire
to
get
some
of
the
pipeline
removed,
as
well
as
minimize
the
impacts
to
the
neighborhood,
and
so
what
we've
done
is
identify
a
couple
possible
sections
of
removal
that
are
in
areas
that
aren't
fronted
by
residences.
So
in
those
locations
we
could
go
in
happy
Genie
remove
the
pipeline.
B
It
would
still
be
disruptive
to
traffic
through
the
neighborhood
would
still
require
detours.
Some
localized
road
closures,
but
mostly
you
know,
probably
one-way
traffic
traffic
control
to
keep
traffic
through
those
areas.
The
remaining
portion
here,
besides
those
two
sections
that
are
illustrated,
would
be
filled
with
slurry.
B
This
is
just
a
summary
of
that.
The
hybrid
approach,
as
I
said,
would
still
be
disruptive
to
the
neighborhood,
but
not
impact
directly
any
existing
homes.
The
duration
of
this
would
be
about
eight
weeks,
primarily
the
the
largest
impact
is
going
to
be
during
the
removal
process.
There
may
be
a
little
time
adjustment
depending
on
if
one
or
two
sections
are
taken
out
again.
This
concentrates
the
highest
impacts
in
the
least
disruptive
areas,
and
it
may
meet
the
need
of
the
public
to
remove
at
least
a
portion
of
the
pipeline
through
the
neighborhood.
B
So,
given
the
concerns
that
we've
heard
from
the
public,
as
well
as
all
factors
involved,
staff
is
recommending
that
the
hybrid
solution
be
pursued
with
pge
and
we
will
work
with
PG&E
to
determine
what's
the
best
location
which
section
or
which
sections
whether
one
or
two
sections
are
the
best
to
be
removed
before
I,
open
up
to
questions
or
comments.
I
did
want
to
take
a
second
and
talk
about
a
portion
of
line
132
that
was
discovered
subsequent
to
the
pipeline
explosion,
and
this
pipe
was
unknown
to
the
city.
B
It
was
abandoned
as
part
of
the
original
construction
of
the
subdivision
in
1956,
so
crestmoor
Canyon
was
filled.
The
old
pipeline
followed
the
old
ground,
the
canyon
was
filled
and
a
portion
of
the
pipeline
new
pipeline
was
constructed
at
you
know
three
or
four
feet
below
grade
where
the
could
the
current
pipe
is
that
pipeline.
The
majority
of
it
is
deep.
It's
been
abandoned,
since
nineteen
fifty-six,
it
was
not
filled
when
it
was
abandoned.
B
Now
that
the
city
knows
about
it,
the
city's
ass
BG
need
to
fill
that
pipe
of
slurry
so
that
it's
abandoned
properly
filling
with
slurry
or
removal
meets
the
current
abandonment
procedures
in
the
pipeline
industry.
So
PG&E
has
provided
a
plan
to
the
city
that
the
city's
consultants
are
reviewing
for
that
abandonment
filling
with
slurry.
B
A
B
The
project
that
was
first,
which
I'm
going
to
get
to
next,
is
a
phase
two
utility
project
and
what
that
project
will
do
is
replace
utilities,
water,
sewer,
storm
drain,
and
essentially
this
area,
the
fire
damaged
area,
the
neighborhood.
So,
as
you
can
see,
the
possible
removal
of
this
portion
of
pipe
is
in
conflict.
With
that
work,
we
have
discussed
that
with
pge.
We
think
that
we
can
phase
our
work
with
their
work,
such
that
it
doesn't
impact
our
schedule,
but
to
say
that
it
has
no
impact
is
would
not
be
true.
B
It
does
have
an
impact
or
does
have
a
scheduling
impact
that
we
will
need
to
work
around
in
terms
of
the
slurry
filling
the
slurry
filling
doesn't
really
impact
our
construction
work
plain
construction
work
at
all.
Complete
removal
would
not
have
an
impact
on
the
current
phase
of
construction.
I
mean
on
the
future
phases
of
construction.
It
would
again
have
some
impacts
related
to
the
proposed
phase.
Two
utilities,
which
again
we
would
need
to
work
with
PG
need
to
ensure
that
those
impacts
are
minimized.
A
B
Pg&Amp;E
has
agreed
to
fill
the
pipeline
now
and
not
wait
the
two
to
three
years
either
fill
the
pipeline
and
remove
it
and
not
not
wait
the
two
to
three
years
that
they
originally
had
desired.
The
schedule
that
they're
fully
aware
of
our
schedule
with
our
phase
two
utilities
they
have
a
contractor
on
board
they've,
been
discussing
the
project
with
their
contractor
and
they
have
done
some
preliminary
design
work
for
the
removal
of
these
sections
shown
here.
Should
we
go
with
the
hybrid
option
they
they
are
probably
four
to
six
weeks
away
from
today.
B
Had
no
recent
formal
discussions
with
anyone,
we
have
had
some
informal
discussions
with
some
of
the
residents
in
the
neighborhood
as
we're
up
there
doing
some
of
the
work.
I.
Think.
One
thing
that
all
of
us
can
remember
is
during
the
community
meeting
that
was
held
in
late
January,
when
we
did
mention
the
fact
that
we
were
in
discussions
with
PG&E
about
removing
the
pipeline.
That
was
met
with
full
applause
from
the
audience.
So
we
know
that
there's
a
strong
desire
out
there
to
remove
at
least
some
of
the
pipeline
to
the
neighborhood,
but.
A
I
would
like
to
add
to
that,
though,
that
this
is
the
first
time
we
have
had
in
the
last
few
days.
Any
kind
of
formal
presentation
was
brought
up,
I
believe
in
January
27,
the
Church
of
the
Highlands,
when
everyone
said,
let's
just
get
it
out
of
there
and
that
all
sounded
well
and
good,
but
we
instruct
a
staff
to
research
with
pge
what
the
ramifications
of
removing
it
completely
filling
it
or
the
hybrid
finally
came
up.
A
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
had
all
options
on
the
table
and
understood
it
very
well
ourselves.
But
this
is
really
the
first
time
that
we
have
had
an
opportunity
to
visit
with
staff
as
a
council
and
here
these
presentations.
So
you
should
know
that
any
other
questions
before
we
open
it
up
to
the
public
after
okay
see
a
number
of
people
in
the
audience
probably
want
to
speak
on
this.
Would
you
like
to
please
step
to
the
podium
and
tell
us
your
name
and
your
street.
D
Right
after
the
explosion,
I
did
go
and
testify
in
front
of
the
Senate
and
my
main
goal
with
many
of
the
neighbors
was
to
get
the
pipe
out
of
our
neighborhood
and
pge
agreed
that
they
would
not
have
that
pipe
run
through
our
neighborhood
that
they
would
get
rid
of
it
so
I'm.
My
concern
is
that
we
have
a
clear
written
commitment
that
they'll
never
use
the
pipeline
again
for
natural
gas
service
either
for
transmission
line
or
distribution
line.
D
D
That
is
a
concern
to
me
that
they're
not
properly
I,
guess
purging
the
gas
out
of
the
pipe.
So
if
we
keep
the
pipes
there,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
they're
properly
purging
the
gas
out
of
the
pipelines,
because
I
don't
know
too
much
about
gas,
but
I
think
it
stays
in
the
pipe.
Even
though
there's
not
gas
running
through
it,
I'm
not
an
expert
but
I.
Think
the
gas
stays
in
the
pipe
and
I'm,
not
an
expert.
So
what
I
did
is
I
contacted
Richard
Cooper
wits.
D
P
he
says
towns
usually
want
to
keep
their
options
open
concerning
the
right
away
agreements
crossing
their
public
lands,
so
filling
the
pipeline
with
concrete
is,
could
be
an
overkill
and
precludes
the
town
from
possibly
granting
right
away
to
another
party
for
somebody
to
lay
cable
or
fiber
optics,
for
example,
within
old
pipes,
that
if
the
opportunity
presents
itself,
this
could
save
digging
up
a
lot
of
the
town.
That
can
be
very
disruptive.
D
But
it's
a
very
emotional
issue
to
keep
that
pipe
in
our
under
our
streets,
not
knowing
that
it
was
there.
So
just
tearing
you
tonight,
I
mean
my
two
cents
would
be
taking
parts
of
the
pipe
out,
but
making
sure
that
the
pipe
that
remains
is
purged
properly,
so
that
we
don't
have
the
possibility
of
another
explosion
and
I
think
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
Thank
you.
Alright,.
A
B
Well,
if
I
may,
let
me
an
address
a
couple
comments
that
were
brought
up
here,
I
think
in
terms
of
purging
the
pipeline.
The
portions
of
the
pipeline
that
pge
decommissioned
last
year
have
been
purged
again.
There
may
be
some
residual
trace
gas
or
odors
murmur
captain
in
those
pipes,
like
I,
said
pge
as
part
of
the
filling
slurry
filling
of
the
pipeline
is
committed
to
having
equipment
there.
That
should
any
odors
be
present,
they
will
they
will
scrub
those
prior
to
the
releasing
in
the
atmosphere
in
terms
of
the
1948
pipe.
B
We
just
received
last
week,
PG
news
proposal
for
slurry
filling
that
pipeline.
It
includes
some
detailed
technical
information
about
how
they
plan
on
dealing
with
the
odors
that
we
know
are
present
in
that
pipe.
Our
specialized
gas
consultant
is
looking
at
that
now
and
they
will
address
any
concerns
that
or
raise
any
concerns
that
they
have
and
pge
will
address
those
prior
to
filling
that
pipe
and
then
I.
Think
in
terms
of
of
the
right-of-way
issue
that
there's
no
right-of-way
issue
I
think
the
issue
that
was
brought
up
there
was
a
valid
one.
B
A
F
Construction
and
disruption
ready,
you
know,
I
know
some
people
wanted
out
of
there.
They
don't
necessarily
live
right
there
own
Street,
a
live
on
state
line,
siding
plenty
in
the
narrow
part
and
I
saw
when
they
dug
up
the
other
piece
of
pipe
I
mean
it
was
a
pretty
major
undertaking,
so
I
would
just
prefer
they
did
that
it
may
be
sent
out
a
survey
to
everybody
lives.
Lindblom,
you
were
in
the
affected
areas,
see
how
they
feel.
F
G
Name
is
Maria
bar
and
I,
happily
moved
into
my
neighborhood
since
1976
I've
been
extremely
happy,
joyful,
wonderful,
neighborhood
once,
but
since
the
explosion,
my
life
has
been
a
turmoil
every
day,
I'm
very
nervous,
I,
look
out
my
window
and
there's
a
lot
of
construction.
There's
a
lot
of
trucks,
there's
a
lot
of
activity
and
it's
all
for
a
good
cause,
because
all
my
neighbors
homes
are
being
rebuild
and
things
are
looking
up.
I'm
back
in
my
home
now
and
I'm
happy
but
hearing.
G
The
presentation
that
was
done
today
has
convinced
me
that
slurry
is
the
best
option
for
all
of
us
excavating
the
pipe
and
spending
all
that
time,
a
digging
in
the
narrowness
of
the
streets.
It's
an
unknown
factor.
We
don't
know,
what's
down
there,
how
things
will
settle?
How
rains
will
affect
us
for
me,
I
will
feel
very
confident
that
the
slurry
field,
filling
in
of
the
concrete,
will
accomplish
the
job
and
then
it
will
be
safe.
G
H
My
name
is
Elizabeth
Koons.
I
live
on
clairemont,
dr
I'm
fine
with
the
slurry
filling,
but
I
want
to
know
what
does
PG&E
going
to
raise
my
rates
to
to
ensure
my
safety
in
my
neighborhood,
because
every
time
something's
come
up
every
one
of
them
later
comes
back,
we'll
PG&E
says
well,
we'll
have
to
raise
the
rates
in
order
to
pay
for
that
I
think
we've
paid
enough
in
our
neighborhood.
A
Thank
you
just
my
two
cents
you've
paid
way
too
much.
We
all
have
paid
way
too
much,
but
their
discussions
ongoing,
which
the
city
is
taking
parting
with
the
CPUC
and
a
lot
of
this,
including
the
settlement
that
the
city
received
and
other
settlements
going
forward
that
are
coming
from
shareholders
and
on
ratepayers
and
that's
pretty
substantiating.
So
you
know,
there's
more
discussions
going
forward.
I
understand
it
completely,
but
we
as
a
city
or
watching
that
very
very
closely.
Yes,
you
pull
that
up
a
little
closer
again.
Thank.
E
You,
my
name
is
Doug
codes,
I'll
apply
my
drive,
I'm
not
sure,
and
I
think
we're
making
a
little
bit
too
much
bigger
deal
out
of
the
disruption
neighborhood
disruption
since
they,
the
explosion,
occurred.
It's
going
to
continue
and
we
know
that
that's
going
to
continue
having
just
I
live
right
there
where
plymouth
comes
down,
connects
to
a
claremont,
the
east
end.
We
just
lived
through
the
phase
one
water,
which
is
probably
more
difficult,
putting
in
a
new
pipe
to
take
it
out
an
old
one,
and
it
didn't
take
anywhere
near
the
25
feet.
E
They
still
had
to
dig
down
real
deep.
We
looked
like
it
was
about
sick
that
that
digging
is
going
to
continue
I,
understand
and
tell
all
of
the
water
major
replaced
in
the
neighborhood
we're
going
to
keep
doing
sewer.
So
this
disruption
is
going
to
continue
for
who
knows
how
long
so,
whether
we,
whether
we
choose
to
fill
it
with
slurry,
remove
the
whole
thing
removed
part
of
it
I,
don't
think
we
should
make
such
a
big
deal
out
of
the
disruption
since
we're
going
to
have
a
regardless.
A
B
I
think
the
future
utility
replacement
within
the
entire
neighborhood
is
going
to
be
very
disruptive,
and
it
will
last
you
know,
probably
what
the
next
project
starting
construction
in
May.
It
will
probably
last
for
9
to
12
months,
barring
weather
delays,
so
this
neighborhood
will
have
a
lot
of
disruption
for
utility
construction
in
the
next
year
that
that
is
a
very
correct
statement.
B
I
think
the
difference
with
the
pge
line,
132
removal,
particularly
in
the
stretch
of
glenview
between
claremont
and
klimmit-
that
will
require
pretty
much
full
closure
of
the
roadway
to
accomplish
the
pipeline
removal.
The
installation
of
a
new
pipeline
is
a
little
bit
cleaner
from
a
construction
standpoint,
because
we're
not
dodging
a
lot
of
those
utility
crossings
that
this
pipe
is
going
to
have
to
dodge
and
mm.
The
material
will
have
to
be
excavated
out,
put
into
trucks,
hauled
away.
Then
another
truck
left
to
come
in
to
put
the
piece
of
pipe.
B
A
B
B
I
just
want
to
clarify
one
thing:
the
the
gentleman
who
spoke
earlier
about
the
disruption
to
his
home
and
I
think
he
lived
in
the
section
north
of
Claremont
on
glenview
again,
the
hybrid
option
that
we're
looking
at
would
not
be
removing
a
portion
of
pipe.
In
that
section
it
would
be
to
the
south
where
the
road
is
wider.
Okay,.
A
A
I
B
A
F
Curious
about
the
extremities
of
this
pipe.
We
know
that
in
this
section
that
we're
talking
about
either
removing
or
filling
there's
no
gas,
it's
going
to
go
through
there,
but
on
either
end
of
it.
There
are
some
connections
still
going
upstream
to
other
facilities
and
so
I'm
wondering
about
how
those
those
things
are
capped
and
whether
there's
going
to
be
continued.
Continued
monitoring
on
those
other
ends
at
the
side
of
the
neighborhood
I
can.
I
I
F
I
C
J
Whatever
decision
is
made
that
we
mitigate
that
at
all
possible.
I
know
you
were
going
to
get
some
clarification
on
that,
but
I
think
that's
something
that's
very
important
to
us
all.
Is
this
community,
so
if
we
can
have
some
more
assurances
and
exactly
what
the
filter
is
or
how
it
works
and
how
it
operates
and
how
that
mitigates
that
potential
problem
I.
A
Think
that's
a
very
good
point.
We
had
a
small
what
PG
a--
would
probably
consider
a
routine
incident
a
few
months
ago,
as
in
a
small
distribution
line,
which
is
very,
very
small,
and
there
was
a
smell
of
gas,
we
evacuated
in
neighborhood
we
had
police
and
fire
there.
We
had
helicopter
circling
overhead
and
my
cell
phone
was
going
crazy,
wanting
to
know
about
the
new
explosion
in
san
bruno
so,
and
this
was
way
way,
far
away
from
crest
wooden,
and
I
pressed
more
in
glenview.
F
Michael,
that's
one
more
question:
please
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
the
older
pipe,
the
1948
Pike
and
around
the
practice
of
abandonment
of
these
pipes.
Is
it
fairly
typical
practice
to
leave
the
older
pipes
in
the
ground
and
I'm
wondering
on
the
older
one
what
the
metallurgical
composition
is
of
that
and
if
there's
any
potential
contaminants
from
that
the
metals
that
could
leach
into
the
groundwater?
F
I
K
K
But
there
is
so
much
that
needs
to
go
on
and
there
is
still
so
much
stress
when
we
go
by
that
site
daily
and
we
see
all
the
construction,
because
the
construction
reminds
us
of
what
happened
to
our
community.
So
perhaps
if
we
residents
could
get
a
timeline
of
what
various
projects
will
be
taking
place
and
even
Harry
that
what
you
presented
up
here
was
really
informative.
I
would
love
to
see
the
neighbors
get
an
explanation
of
those
three
possibilities
of
what
can
happen
to
the
pipeline
because
I,
don't
think
any
of
us.
A
E
E
I
L
L
L
Government
relations
for
pge,
we
as
we
work
with
staff,
we're
providing
technical,
detailed,
technical
information
on
how
we
plan
to
mitigate
the
smell
in
every
step
of
projects
that
we're
doing
so
for
the
1948
pipe.
We've
already
provided
that
to
staff
and
then,
as
we
get
additional
direction
on
this
project,
we
plan
to
provide
the
same
level
of
detail
on
that
mitigation.
J
L
C
I
can
add,
this
is
an
exclusive
neighborhood.
We
need
confirmation
that
they
are
getting
the
information
I
mean
even
if
it's
just
getting
out
there
and
even
if
you're,
sending
it
to
a
certain
address
or
whatever
there
needs
to
be
some
follow-up
to
say.
Did
you
receive
this
information?
Do
you
receive?
C
Do
you
understand
this
information
and
I
think
not
only
for
PG&E,
but
what
we're
doing
also
yeah,
because
there's
going
there's
going
to
be
some
gaps,
I
mean
if
you
assume
that
you're
sending
it
out
to
every
single
resident,
someone's
going
to
come
back
and
say,
I
didn't
get
it
or
didn't
understand
it
or
I
didn't
pay
attention
to
it.
So
I
think
it's
important
enough
that
they
all
know.
A
M
A
M
B
B
B
The
least
a
portion
of
that
you
know
would
have
to
probably
get
delayed
if
it
was
the
full
removal
option
again
under
the
hybrid
option,
the
only
portions
that
would
be
removed
would
be
in
areas
where
there
are
no
fronting
homes,
so
we
wouldn't
be
dealing
with
an
issue
of
disrupting
construction,
ongoing
construction
of
those
homes
under
the
hybrid
option,
but
it
would
be
a
concern
under
the
full
removal
option.
You're,
correct,
okay,.
M
A
All
right,
the
staff
is
looking
for
some
action.
If
we
want
to
do
it.
Let
me
just
start
now
that
I
hear
the
three
options:
I
was
sort
of
leaning
towards
hybrid
and
mostly
because
everything
achieves
the
same,
but
it's
more
of
an
emotional
thing.
People
in
January
really
wanted
that
pipe
out
of
that
street
and
I
thought.
Maybe
the
hybrid
is
the
way
to
go.
It
doesn't
really
serve
a
whole
lot
of
other
purpose.
Then
22
cual
some
emotions
up
there,
but.
A
Her
tonight
I,
don't
believe
anybody
really
talk
about
hybrid
too
much.
It
sounded
like
you
know,
get
this
thing
taken
care
of
fill
it
with
concrete.
If
that's
what
it
takes,
make
sure
that,
as
you
fill
it
with
concrete
you're,
not
pouring
gas
smell
into
the
neighborhood
and
make
sure
that
everybody's
informed,
as
you
go
along
I,
said
many
many
months
ago,
at
st.
robert
church
within
48
hours
of
the
explosion
that
we're
here
to
help
you
and
we
will
hold
your
hand
one
by
one.
A
That's
what
you
need
and
we're
still
here
to
do
that.
So
if
we
have
to
get
a
flyer
in
hand
delivered
as
the
City
Council
everybody
up
there
we're
happy
to
do
it.
But
my
feeling
is
now
if
it's
okay
with
everyone
here
and
I
want
to
hear
from
all
of
you
fill
it,
let's
be
done
with
it.
Let's
I
know
someone
said
earlier
this
evening
that
she
looks
out
her
window
and
she
sees
the
construction,
which
is
a
good
thing,
but
it
reminds
her.
A
I
think
I
think
we
start
digging
up
the
street
for
a
pipe
and
disrupt
the
community
even
more
it'll.
Probably
reminder
more
of
what
happened,
so
my
feeling
is
I
think
we
just
fill
this
damn
thing
and
get
it
done.
It'll
never
be
used
again
and
we
have
those
assurances
it
won't
be
if
it's
filled
with
concrete
and
I
just
want
to
get
it
done.
I
want
to
get
on
with
the
rebuild
and
not
to
forget
the
past,
but
to
respect
it
and
and
go
forward
so
that
those
are
my
thoughts
if.
C
I
could
miss
mary,
and
I
agree
to
a
certain
extent,
but
I
didn't
go
through
it
and
I
know
we're
trying
very
hard
to
feel
what
you're
feeling
I
would
really
like
to
hear
from
all.
You
know,
not
necessarily
all
residents
but
I
really
like
to
hear
from
the
from
the
glenview
the
people
that
live
on
Glen
do
that
that
drive
on
that
street
that
live
that
live.
C
You
know
right
there
and
have
that
pipe
underneath,
because
I
don't
know
what
you're
you
know
what
emotions
you're
dealing
with
and
that
I
didn't
go
through
that
we
we
witnessed
it
a
lot
of
it,
but
can't
imagine
what
you
what
you've
gone
through.
So
it
would
be
a
really
help
to
know
what
what
you
feel
and
if
it's
just
fill
the
pipe
and
get
on
with
it,
so
be
it.
But
if
there's
someone
out
there
that
just
has
to
have
a
section
pulled
out
for
their
peace
of
mind
and
their.
C
F
The
last
thing
I
want
to
do
is
delay
this
any
longer
than
we
have
to,
and
I'd
really
like
to
see
the
neighborhood
put
back
together
at
least
repairing
what
would
puts
in
our
power
to
repair
and
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
drag
it
out
longer
than
necessary.
But
perhaps
a
short
comment
period
would
be
would
be
an
order.
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
see
is
just
confirmation
from
PG
Indian
from
our
our
staff
that
there
there
is
no
possibility
of
contaminants
from
either
the
older
pipe
or
the
newer
pipe.
J
J
I
happen
to
be
up
on
the
900
block
of
glenview
last
night
and
I
looked
down,
knowing
that
we
had
this
meeting.
I
was
there
for
another
reason
and
was
trying
to
visualize
the
pipe
being
removed
and
I
just
was
thinking
as
the
rebuilding
is
occurring.
As
you
see,
people
coming
back
I
just
thought
that
would
be
too
disruptive
back
to
that
community
again.
J
The
neighborhood
slurry
is
something
that
I
would
be
leaning
toward
at
this
point
after
having
the
presentation,
but
I
also
would
like
to
want
to
make
sure
because
I
know,
obviously
for
those
that
live
there
on
a
daily
basis
or
trying
to
come
back
home.
There's
a
lot
of
emotion,
there's
a
there's,
a
pain
that
we've
all
suffered
and
you
still
suffer
and
I
would
like
that
opportunity
for
lease
folks
to
express
what
their
views
and
opinions
are
in
lap
at
least
have
that
option
available.
J
M
You
this
is
a
very
difficult
decision,
especially
since
we
did
not
have
to
live
through
what
you
all
live
through
I'm
inclined
to
ask
for
a
survey
I
think
we
should
ask
the
people
who
live
there
from
one
end
of
the
block
to
the
other.
What
they
would
like
our
staff
report
shows
the
options
very
clearly
it
it
talks
about
what
the
impacts
are.
It
talks
about
how
long
something
is
going
to
take
like
option.
M
One
is
four
and
a
half
months
of
30
people
every
day
coming
in
trucks
closures,
but
if
that's
what
it
takes
for
everyone
to
feel
better
down
the
road
in
a
year,
maybe
that's
what
we
should
do.
The
slurry
takes
three
weeks
and
there's
little
disruption
and
the
hybrid
takes
two
and
a
half
months
and
there's
a
medium,
so
I
think
the
people
there
should
have
a
very
clear-cut
opportunity
to
see
what's
available,
that
what
we're
looking
at
I'll
be
happy
to
walk
up
and
down
and
hand
out
surveys.
M
A
So
I
believe
this
consensus
to
do
a
short
survey,
explaining
what
you
explain
tonight
in
very
simple
terms
of
the
disruption,
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
community.
What's
not
going
to
happen
if
we
do
certain
things
number
one
also,
we
want
to
get
a
report
back
and
PG
me
on
potential
contamination
of
existing
pipes
in
there
and
have
assurances
that
if
we
slurry
fill
them,
they
will
in
fact
we
solid
filled
and
a
chance
of
any
type
of
contamination.
After
that,
oh,
do
you
need
any
more
direction.
Yeah.
H
I
know
mr.
mayor,
if
I
could
just
add
their
two
more
items
that
I
believe
the
council
was
looking
for
from
pge
just
for
the
purpose
of
the
record.
The
second
item,
beyond
the
environmental
contaminants,
is
a
more
detailed
information
about
how
the
caps
are
secured
and
placed
on
the
on
the
pipe
ends
to
assure
that
there's
no
leakage
and
then
lastly,
the.