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From YouTube: San Bruno City Council Meeting Dec. 14, 2010
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San Bruno City Council Meeting Dec. 14, 2010 Whole Meeting
A
We
have
a
few
announcements.
There
will
not
be
a
city
council
meeting
on
the
fourth
Tuesday
in
December,
we've
decided
to
take
a
little
holiday
break.
There
will
be
a
town
hall
meeting
this
sunday
December
nineteenth
regarding
the
glenview
explosion
and
fire
at
the
senior
center
right
here
from
two
o'clock
till
four
o'clock.
That's
this
sunday
and
I
believe
we
have
an
announcement
regarding
the
january
that
meeting
after
the
disposition
of
monies
received
by
the
city
for
the
glenview
relief.
What
would
that
be?
Would
you
like
to
say
something
or
Michael.
D
Okay,
just
to
reiterate,
we
will
be
having
a
meeting
here
at
the
Senior
Center
on
january
fifth,
at
seven
pm.
Everyone
is
welcome.
We
are
particularly
thinking
and
looking
for
input
from
people
about
how
to
distribute
the
money
that
was
donated
to
the
glenview
fire
victims.
So
if
you
are
interested
or
if
you
are
a
victim
yourself,
are
you
from
that
neighborhood?
Please
come
to
that
meeting
on
january
fifth
right.
A
That's
not
a
city
council
meeting,
that's
a
sub-q
any
meeting,
so
we
have
some
presentations
this
evening,
actually
not
presentations,
but
we
have
some
business
in
conduct.
We're
going
to
the
annual
reorganization
of
the
San
Brandon
City
Council,
an
appointment
of
vice
mayor
to
serve
a
one-year
term.
This
is
pretty
much
done
every
year
as
a
matter
of
fact
and
I
believe
our
new
vice
mayor
is
mr.
Michael
Salazar.
So
congratulations
and
TV.
You
can
switch
seats
now
or
you
can
just
wait
till
the
next
week
we'll
eat
on
our
way
to
okay.
A
A
I
would
like
to
move
item
number
11,
which
is
the
annual
report
of
traffic
and
safety
committee
to
right
after
item
number
8
public
hearings,
any
other
changes
on
the
agenda,
all
right:
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
regular
city
council,
meeting
of
November,
23rd
2010
and
special
council
meeting
of
November
30th
2010
changes
arrows
missions
right.
They
will
stand
approved
as
submitted
consent,
calendar
item
number
7.
All
items
are
considered
routine
or
implemented
earlier
council
action
and
may
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
A
A
F
C
E
H
Report
to
the
council
at
its
last
meeting.
This
is
an
amendment
to
the
city
code
that
would
require
a
development
to
indemnify,
defend
and
hold
the
city
harmless
in
case
there
any
challenges
to
the
development
approval
they
were.
There
was
an
attorney
general's
opinion
in
a
case
in
2002
that
allow
the
city
to
do
this.
It
would
avoid
the
necessity
of
adding
a
condition
to
each
and
every
permit
approved
by
the
city
for
the
very
same
thing,
so
the
city
is
enabled
to
pass
such
an
ordinance
and
have
this
in
place.
A
G
I
A
E
Honorable
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
us
to
address
you
regarding
the
annual
court
from
the
traffic
and
safety
and
parking
committee
in
2009.
One
of
our
main
accomplishments
was
putting
general
procedures
in
place
regarding
traffic
calming
measures
going
into
2010.
We
wanted
to
piggyback
on
the
work
we'd
already
done.
Thanks
to
staff
support,
we
had
the
hindsight
to
they
had
the
heightened
side
really
to
want
to
put
procedures
in
place
on
how
to
handle
parking
related
issues.
E
When
we
were
putting
this
together,
one
of
our
main
goals
was
to
be
able
to
give
the
residence
a
voice.
Not
only
did
we
try
to
think
through
how
to
handle
most
general
requests,
but
we
also
put,
but
we
also
put
away
for
residents
to
appeal
their
applications,
so
this
is
now
you
guys
adopted
this.
We
put
this
in
practice
and
it's
actually
working
really
well.
We've
had
to
request
so
far
that
the
staff
denied
they
came
to
us
and
we
actually
the
one
of
the
times
the
resident
came
in
the
other
time.
E
E
E
It
allows
a
citizen
to
come
in
to
City
Hall
and
if
they
have
a
traffic
calming
issue,
they
can
actually
come
in
and
get
the
toolkit
and
look
at
the
tools
that
we
have
available
to
us
that
they
could
actually
use,
and
then
they
can
request
to
put
onto
our
agenda
and
and
talk
to
us
about
them
in
it
completely
outlines
how
we
go
about
traffic
calming
what
measures
we
have
in
place.
What
tools
we
have
available,
it's
very,
very
effective,
it's
very
good.
E
E
Some
of
the
parking
related
issues
that
we
did
on
southbound
on
Mills
Avenue.
We
removed
a
portion
of
it
to
help
for
street
parking.
We
in
on
Mason
Avenue.
They
had
restricted,
restricted
parking
on
Saturday
and
we
removed
that.
Also,
we
added
a
new
yellow
curb
from
8
to
2
p.m.
again
traffic
calming
measures
that
had
been
on
our
agenda
that
we
wanted
to
address
and
that
we
were
able
to
finally
get
through.
E
We
did
limited
time
parking
on
gentlemen.
We
also
six
parking
spots
for
this
again
goes
back
to
the
other,
where
we
implemented
the
procedures,
and
we
actually
had
six
items
that
the
staff
and
us
we
were
able
to
address
right
away
without
even
having
to
come
to
you
guys
so
again,
taking
stuff
away
from
you
that
staff
can
handle
themselves.
E
One
of
the
bigger
visible
items
was
the
stop
sign
on
Cunningham
way
at
gentleman
avenue
that
helped
people
were
just
flying
through
there
and
going
down
the
hill,
and
then
they
have
momentum
from
coming
off
the
freeway
and
then
going
east
board
down,
which
is
a
downhill
slope.
And
then
you
had
a
school
right
there
in
a
church,
so
it
helps
slow
down
the
traffic.
E
On
sneath
lane,
west
of
skyline
again
mitigated
tried
to
help
mitigate
issues
in
regard
to
traffic.
We
had
a
public
hearing
on
Susan
Drive.
You
guys
got
you
guys
had
a
someone.
One
of
the
residents
came
in
and
was
pretty
upset
about
how
fast
everyone
was
driving.
So
we're
I
think
we're
bringing
stuff
to
the
council
for
you
guys
to
look
at.
E
2010,
we
also
saw
2
TSP,
see
members
resign,
soul,
whiner
and
Doris
maze
they've
been
with
us
for
a
long
time.
We
have
two
new
members,
Jessica
Barnes,
Lopez
and
Tim
fuller,
so
we're
excited
bringing
on
new
people
were
able
to
get
people
right
away
into
2011.
We're
really
going
to
focus
on
parking,
I.
Think
we're
going
to
look
at
the
downtown
area
and
try
to
really
think
through.
Is
there
a
better
way
that
we
can
do
the
parking
is
or
things
that
we
can
adopt?
G
No
question
just
comments
each
year
that
this
committee
makes
a
report.
It's
just
amazing
the
things
that
you're
doing
and
I
was
on
the
committee
almost
20
years
ago,
and
it
was
just
stop
signs
and
red
curbs,
and
now
it's
pretty
complex.
Now
you
have
toolkits
and
guidelines
and
there's
a
lot.
Continuity
and
I
think
you
should
be
complimented
on
the
achievements
and,
what's
mainly
the
safe,
the
safety
that's
occurring
in
our
community.
Thank
you
very
much.
All.
A
Right
I'll,
let
go
that
to
all
these
boards
commissions
and
committees
do
so
much
that
people,
just
don't
realize
voluntarily
in
the
city,
put
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
in
especially
you're
committed
to
where
your
hands
on
with
with
the
people,
which
sometimes
can
be
a
little
challenging
and
you've
done
a
great
job.
So
congratulate
the
rest
of
the
committee
Morris,
please,
oh,
we
will
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
item
9
public
comment
on
items
not
on
the
agenda,
as
the
council's
policy
refer
matters
raised
in
this
forum
to
staff
for
investigation
interaction
where
appropriate,
the
Brown
Act
prohibits
the
council
from
discussing
or
acting
upon
any
matter
not
agenda
is
pursuant
to
state
law.
Anyone
like
to
address
the
council
under
public
comment.
J
Name
is
Alan
Braun,
formerly
of
1660
clairemont.
Dr.
My
big
concern
is
the
subcommittee
comment.
You
made
a
little
while
ago,
January,
fifth,
okay,
January
fist,
too
late.
Okay,
that's
almost
four
months
since
the
fire.
Okay,
the
money
that
you
have
in
this
fund
was
relief
fund
money.
That
means
key
word:
being
relief,
I
work
in
the
EAP
industry,
which
is
where
you
help
people
that
have
problems
financially
mentally
physically
alcohol,
drug
abuse.
J
All
that
stuff,
okay
waiting
for
months
to
have
a
subcommittee
to
decide
how
you're
going
to
help
two
people-
sanburne,
okay,
I'm
telling
you
the
same
thing,
I
told
the
Red
Cross,
it's
it's
already
too
late.
Now
you
should
be
calling
people
okay.
They
very
cross
finally
started
last
week
calling
people
finding
where
they're
at
now
saying
we
need
to
make
an
appointment
come
sit
with
you
see
what
you
need.
J
You
got
people
out
there
that
have
34,
not
myself,
kids,
ok
or
spending
all
this
money
that
was
supposedly
given
to
them
by
the
by
pge
to
help
that
it's
gone.
Okay,
they
got
children
that
they're
spending
all
this
money
because
they're
in
rental
homes
there
I'm
going
to
buy
all
the
stuff
that
they
don't
have.
They
need
to
be
given
some
money,
so
they
can
go,
get
their
kids.
Christmas
presents
maybe
buy
a
tree
decorations
whatever
january
fist,
too
late,
you're
talking
121
days
almost
after
the
accident.
Something
needs
to
be
done
now.
J
J
So
that's
just
my
comment
and
I'm
hoping
you
guys
will
start
doing
something
about
they
need.
You
need
to
just
do
like
the
Red
Cross
started.
I
read
the
Red
Cross
the
riot
act
for
an
hour.
They
started
calling
people
last
Wednesday.
That's
going
to.
Let
us
come
see
you,
let's
make
an
appointment,
saying
with
you.
What
do
you
need
help
right
now,
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
are
hurting
and
they
need
the
help
and,
like
I
said
again,
it's
a
relief
fund
money.
It
needs
to
be
for
relief
120
days.
A
Right,
thank
you
since
it,
since
it
was
mentioned
on
the
agenda
earlier
this
evening
regarding
January.
Fifth,
you
should
that
you
know
there
was
an
awful
lot
of
group
assistance.
In
the
very
beginning,
we
tried
to
turn
that
around
and
it's
been
a
quite
an
effort
to
to
get
that
done
to
reach
out
and
individually
do
to
members
of
the
community.
There's
money
still
coming
in,
and
it's
not
just
the
city's
money,
there's
money
and
the
Lions,
if
I
believe
the
rotary
has
money.
St.
A
Roberts
has
money,
a
lot
of
entities
and
a
lot
of
them
have
decided
to
wait
because
they're
not
quite
sure
exactly
where
it's
needed
at
this
point
in
time.
We
have
a
unique
situation
here
and
that
a
lot
of
this
money
is
being
a
lot
of
the
need,
in
fact,
as
being
back
filled
by
another
entity
and
we're
not
quite
sure
where
that's
all
going
to
all
going
to
land.
So
the
subcommittee
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
them,
but
I
believe
they've
decided
to
to
wait.
A
We
just
appointed
the
subcommittee
about
a
month,
month
or
so
ago
to
wait
so
that
they
can
get
a
group
of
residents
that
are
concerned,
not
a
large
group
at
a
relatively
small
group
that
will
represent
in
fact
your
interest
in
this.
It's
not
just
going
to
be
their
decision,
so
you
know
it
made,
for
some
people
might
not
move
fast
enough,
but
for
others
I
think
it's
better
to
just
let
the
initial
shot
get
over
and
see
where
it's
really
needed,
so
we
just
don't
search
to
start
shooting
from
the
hip.
A
G
The
chair,
mr.
mayor,
if
I,
think
a
comment
sure
I
can
I,
can
speak
for
the
Lions,
Club
and
and
I
and
I
understand
what
you're,
saying
and
I
have
the
authority
to
say
that
we
are
committee
in
the
Lions.
Club
has
collected
my
not
to
the
scale
with
the
city
or
the
Red
Cross
has
raised,
but
if,
if
you
can
be
in
my
contact
or
whatever
or
because
we
have
not,
we've
chosen
not
to
contact
the
families,
and
so
you
know
for
their
privacy
and
we
have
a
process.
G
B
The
chair,
I,
was
going
to
say
as
far
as
friends
helping
friends
at
st.
Roberts
I
can
also
say
that
there
was
monies
raised
that
have
are
available
if
there
are
requests.
My
understanding
is
no
requests
haven't
made
thus
far.
However,
if
you
do
have
some
insight
or
some
folks
that
you
feel
might
be
in
need
or
need
something
through
the
holidays,
then
please
vail
themselves
to
myself
or
st.
Roberts,
and
that
can
be
addressed
as
well
for
something
that
may
be
more
immediate
as
you're
saying
than
that.
B
D
J
Okay,
if
that's
the
case,
then
for
example,
you
an
example
when
I
read
I
got
into
a
pretty
deep
with
the
Red
Cross.
Okay,
my
brother-in-law
went
to
the
Red
Cross,
almost
two
hours
filling
out
five
forms,
which
was
pretty
much
duplicates
and
triplicates
of
the
first
form
you
filled
out
got
a
hundred
dollars.
Okay,
after
I.
Let
him
have
it:
they
dropped
off
a
gift
card
for
1300
hours
and
then
they
started
calling
people.
Okay,
the
hope
my
whole
concern
is
maybe
on
the
city
website.
J
Have
someone
put
up
a
page
where
people
can
ask
for
the
money,
because
people
are
people
are
still,
they
still
got
the
one
thing
we
do
have
left.
We
lost
our
houses,
our
cars,
everything
else.
We
still
have
our
pride
and
when
you
got
to
go
somewhere
and
spend
two
hours
and
fill
out
triplicates
and
duplicates
of
forms
to
ask
for
the
money
to
be
helped
they're
not
going
to
step
forward
new,
it's
a
moment
so
I
mean
maybe
on
the
city
website
post.
J
J
Neighborhood
came
together
when
this
happened.
Nobody
begged
anybody
for
help
everybody
just
pitched
in
and
helped
each
other
absolutely
am
I.
My
main
worry
is
I'm.
Seeing
on
well
on
all
the
pages.
Are
the
different
groups
everybody's
talking
about?
Oh,
let's
use
the
money
to
build.
A
memorial
park,
put
some
benches
in
okay.
Now,
that's
not
what
the
money
was
given
for.
It's
a
recovery
fund.
It's
supposed
to
be
to
help
people
who
need
I,
don't
care
if
it's
a
psychiatry
if
they
need
money
to
get
the
oh.
J
What's
the
you
know,
the
guy
comes
out
and
draws
up
the
plans
for
your
house,
an
architect
if
it's
for
getting
an
architect
out
there
right
or
whatever
they
should
have.
There
should
be
some
of
the
website
where
you
can
go
and
say,
here's
a
form
you
need
to
fill
out
and
submit
make
a
copy
of
it,
bring
it
in
whatever.
Instead
of
somebody
come
in
having
to
spend
23
hours,
waiting
in
a
line
and
say
y'all
or
coaxing
whoever
they
have
to
see.
J
A
A
J
K
J
Waiting
till
January
fifth,
because
you
get
somebody
comes
up
with
a
legitimate
thing.
There
should
be
somebody
that
could
say
yeah.
We
should
help
this
person
not
waiting
until
january.
Then
there's
going
to
be
a
subcommittee,
then
another
month
subcommittees.
Give
you
decide
what
to
do
with
the
money
that
another
one
by
the
time.
Any
money
is
handed
out
to
give
me
six
months
now.
A
A
A
D
F
So
the
city
hotline
number
is
6
167
180.
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
in
place
now
for
about
the
last
10
weeks,
a
program
whereby
we
have
a
number
of
city
staff
persons
who
are
directly
assigned
to
V
liaison
persons
with
each
of
small
number
of
families.
Each
of
the
15
have
a
small
number
of
the
55
families
assigned
to
them
who
are
who
have
have
been
and
will
continue
to
be
displaced
on
their
homes
either
because
their
home
is
severely
damaged
or
because
their
home
has
been
destroyed.
F
Those
liaison
persons
are
able
to
assist
in
guiding
and
directing
to
resources
that
are
available
throughout
the
community
by
a
large
number
of
different
providers.
I
think
I
should
probably
say
that
the
city
is
working
aggressively
to
try
and
develop
a
means
of
better
coordinate.
The
various
nonprofit
entities
who
typically
and
have
to
date
acted
fairly
independently
in
providing
services
to
residents
and
I,
do
understand
and
have
heard
the
complaint
that
mr.
Braun
indicated
about
an
overly
bureaucratic
process
that
some
use
and
expectations
that
that
might
engender
that
that
have
not
been
realized.
F
In
any
case
begin,
the
the
hotline
number
to
directly
to
the
city
is
61,
67
180
and
any
of
the
55
families
who
need
a
better
connection
with
air
liaison
person
can
contact
that
hotline
number
in
my
office
directly
and
we
can
work
with
them
to
make
sure
that
they
are
in
direct
and
ready
access
to
the
city
of
San
Bruno,
so
that
we
can
assist
in
any
way.
That
is
possible
good.
G
If
I
could
just
reiterate,
we,
we
have
tried
to
respect
the
privacy
of
the
victims,
although
we
do
have
contacts
through
the
victims,
email
group
and
I
know,
through
the
vice
mayor
through
councilmember
former
vice
mayor,
that
we
have
sent
correspondence
from
st.
Roberts
and
from
the
Lions
Clubs
to
that
email
to
you
know,
hoping
that
would
get
to
those
55
families
and
I
know
it's
more
than
55
families.
But
if
there's
a
better
way,
we
we
back
to
know
so.
L
Good
do
you
need
mr.
mayor
members
of
council,
my
name
is
Bob
Georgia
livens,
st.
lon
cheveux
drive
here
in
san
bruno
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
present
you
with
an
artifact
I'm,
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
hip
housing
which
stands
for
a
human
investment
project
and
were
engaged
in
the
process
of
trying
to
find
housing
for
residents
of
San
Mateo
County,
who
are
underprivileged
hip
as
35
38
years
old.
For
the
last
10
years,
we've
been
producing
a
calendar
which
has
become
an
icon
for
our
organization.
L
It's
based
on
children's
art
this
year
from
the
schools,
the
elementary
schools
of
in
foster
city,
san
mateo,
south
san
francisco
and
belmont.
Last
year,
san
bruno
schools
were
included,
but
I'd
like
to
may
I
have
left
copies
of
the
calendar
with
the
city
clerk
as
again
I
call
it
an
artifact
in
this
day
and
age
of
digital
calendars
and
that
sort
of
thing.
It
is
unusual
to
see
a
calendar
printed
on
paper.
But
that's
what
this
is.
L
It's
got
some
very
interesting
in
artwork,
too,
we
had
300
250
young
people
from
those
four
school
systems
and
we
whittled
it
down
to
12,
because
there's
12
months
in
the
year
that's
easier
than
expanding
it
to
350
months,
but
anyway.
That's
that's.
Why
I'm
here
hope
you
enjoy
the
calendar
to
see
them
and
distribute
it
around
City,
Hall
and
my
occasional
visits.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
about
and
hip
does
wonderful
work
in
the
county
for
work.
Thank
you
very
much.
Anyone
else
in
public
comment
our
go
right
to
conduct
of
business.
Our
first
item
is
a
receive
an
oral
report
and
review
status
of
local
emergency
related
to
the
glenview
fire
area
and
adopt
a
resolution
continuing
the
declaration
of
local
emergency
city
manager,
Thank.
F
You
mr.
mayor
members,
as
I
city
council,
the
item
before
you
tonight
is
a
familiar
one,
I'm
sure,
and
in
that
we
have
taken
this
action
several
times
over
the
last
three
months
since
the
sep
tember,
9th
explosion
and
fire
in
the
Glen
View
neighborhood.
You
will
recall
that
this
declaration
of
local
emergency
allows
the
city
to
take
certain
limited
actions,
particularly
the
suspension
of
competitive
competitive
bidding
in
order
to
respond
quickly
and
efficiently
to
disaster
response
and
recovery
requirements
that
continue
to
be
urgent
within
our
community.
F
F
We
are
continuing,
as
I've
reported
to
you
before,
to
want
to
move
through
at
least
the
significant
wet
weather
period
of
this
wintertime
season.
In
order
to
assure
that,
we
have
passed
the
most
critical
time
period
for
specific
physical
activities
that
contract
services
might
be
required
to
address
in
the
Glen
View
neighborhood
and
particularly
as
they
relate
to
the
stabilization
repair
of
damaged
in
a
Chris
Moore,
Canyon
that,
at
the
close
to
the
blast
site,
there
are
two
items.
F
There
were
two
items
on
tonight's
agenda
that
relate
in
and
that
relate
to
our
response
to
the
glenview
situation
and
have
actions
that
have
been
are
being
proposed
to
be
taken
under
your
emergency
authority
with
the
resolution
in
place.
That
is
the
next
item,
where
we
will
be
asking
for
your
authority
to
move
forward
to
assist
a
small
number
of
residents
whose
homes
have
recently
been
determined
to
need
demolition
and
debris
removal.
F
And
secondly,
the
item
that
I
asked
you
earlier
to
remove
from
the
consent.
Calendar
is
in
another
example
of
the
type
of
item
that
are
the
type
of
action
that
the
city
has
taken
and
will
continue
to
be.
Mindful
of
this,
one
relates
to
private
security
services
to
facilitate
the
protection
of
both
the
damaged
infrastructure
area
within
the
glenview
neighborhood,
as
well
as
previously
the
neighborhood
and
the
vacant
properties
themselves.
F
So,
at
this
point,
I'm
asking
your
action
tonight
to
continue
by
adoption
of
the
resolution
in
front
of
you
to
continue
the
Declaration
of
local
emergency,
pending
a
subsequent
action
to
be
presented
to
you
in
the
first
quarter
of
next
year
to
specifically
terminate
the
emergency
until
and
unless
you
take
that
action,
we
will
be
returning
to
you
on,
at
least
at
the
minimum
30
day
intervals,
as
required
by
state
law.
In
order
to
keep
this
resolution
and
the
Declaration
of
local
emergency.
In
effect,
any.
M
Thank
you
and
good
evening,
honorable
mayor
and
city
council.
At
current
count,
the
glenview
fire
has
destroyed
completely
destroyed
30
homes
as
well
as
damaged
58
more.
As
the
council
knows,
the
county
of
san
mateo,
in
conjunction
with
the
state
of
california,
specifically
Cal,
recycle,
coordinated.
M
M
These
three
homes
are
located
at
27-25
concord,
1127
glenview,
as
well
as
960
glenview,
in
an
effort
to
expedite
and
provide
a
coordinated
process
for
these
three
homeowners.
The
same
way
that
35
homeowners
did
stack,
contacted
the
County
of
San
mattel,
as
well
as
the
state
to
see
if
they
could
handle
the
process.
Unfortunately,
they
could
not
because
the
funding
and
resources
that
were
available
or
only
available
for
the
initial
debris
removal
process.
M
So
with
that
in
mind,
staff
contacted
the
contractor
who
handled
the
initial
debris,
removal,
effort,
Pacific,
Coast
environmental
contractors
and
ask
them
for
a
proposal
to
demolish
the
homes,
and
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
absent
us
handling
the
process.
This
would
be
something
that
the
property
owners
would
have
to
handle
themselves.
M
However,
the
initial
35
did
not
so
we
thought
this
would
be
appropriate
that
we
handle
it
for
these
three
homeowners
as
well.
Staff
met
with
the
each
homeowner
met
with
the
contractor
on
site,
took
a
two,
the
site,
the
state
of
each
condition
of
home,
and
received
a
proposal
from
the
contractor
in
the
amount
of
90
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars.
The
specific
amounts
for
each
home
are
detailed
in
the
proposal
which
is
attached
to
the
staff
port
they're.
Basically,
the
same
all,
there
are
they're
all
small
variations
depending
on
the
the
state
of
the
home.
M
Of
course,
we
would
coordinate
with
the
county
health
department,
as
well
as
the
Bay
Area
Air
Quality
Management
District,
closely,
consult
with
them
to
make
sure
that
all
environmental
laws
are
met
during
the
debris
removal
process
for
these
three
homes
regarding
the
cost,
as
you
can
see
from
the
attached
letter
from
pge
pge
as
they
did
with
the
initial
35
homes,
has
agreed
to
advance
the
funds
to
cover
this
contract
and
cover
the
contract
in
its
entirety.
And,
finally,
the
state
this
contract
is
approved.
M
G
G
So
and
now
the
the
overlay
zone
that
we
spoke
about
earlier
55
homes
that
are
within
the
overlays,
the
remainder
so
there's
17
more
homes
that
are
yellow
tag
but
uninhabited
correct
are
there?
Is
there
any
chance
that
they
may
have
to
be
demolished?
Are
they
still
in
being
reviewed
and
inspected?
Yeah.
M
I
mean
at
this
point:
these
are
the
three
homeowners
that
we've
heard
from
we've
talked
to
several
other
homeowners,
for
instance
the
home
on
clairmont.
I
believe
it's
1720
clermont
that
pink
home
and
they've
already
demolished
part
of
it
working
with
their
private
contractor
they're
in
their
insurance
companies.
So
there
are
some
homes
that
will
have
to
demolish
certain
portions
of
their
home.
These
are
the
only
three
that
we
know
were
declared
total
losses
and
therefore
will
have
to
be
completely
removed.
Okay,.
I
M
M
There
was
a
specific
process
that
was
followed
because
the
the
amount
of
Ash
and
burn
material
that
was
associated
with
the
third
first
35
homes.
This
will
have
to
go
through
your
typical
Bay
Area
Air
Quality
Management
District
requirements
for
asbestos
removal,
one
of
the
homes
actually
on
glen
boo
already
has
it
they
demoed
a
lot
of
the
interior,
so
that
will
still
have
to
be
complied
with.
We're
going
to
consult
with
the
county,
but
there
still
isn't
the
amount
of
ash
that
was
that
was
around
when
the
first
35
home
was
done.
I
M
I
think
it's,
you
know
we
haven't
been
directly
involved
in
that
because
that's
something
that
was
handled
coordinated
by
the
county
and
the
Pacific
Coast
environmental
I
think
they're
just
adding
up
the
final
costs
that
were
associated
with
it.
So
it's
ballpark,
11
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
They
might
change
by.
You
know
ten
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
but
it's
that's
the
that's
the
estimate
at
this
point.
Okay,.
I
C
A
Right
we've
already
done
item
10c
an
attendee
is
to
conduct
an
appeal
hearing
related
to
award
of
did
for
purchase
of
mobile
and
portable
radios.
What
I'd
like
to
do
first
is
asked
staff
for
an
overview.
Then
we'll
ask
the
appellant
to
complete
his
case
for
no
more
than
10
minutes,
and
then
we'll
have
staff
follow-up.
Mr.
lyric
and
chief.
O
Mr.
mayor
members,
the
City
Council,
the
subject
of
this
appeal
hearing
is
related
to
action
of
the
city
and
reviewing
bids
that
will
lead
to
award
of
the
contract
for
a
mobile
and
portable
radio.
Did
the
city's
Municipal
Code
provides
that
bids,
maybe
I'll
be
awarded
to
the
lowest
responsible
bidder
in
practice
to
related,
but
separate
terms
are
considered
both
questions
of
being
responsible
and
being
responsive
for
the
mobile
and
portable
radio
bid.
Williams
USA
was
the
lowest
dollar
bidder.
I
understand
the
analysis
of
this
bid
found
no
issue
with
Williams
USA.
O
As
a
responsible
bidder.
There
is
no
known
reason
that
the
firm
is
incapable
of
providing
the
radios
bid
at
the
price
at
the
price
quoted.
However,
the
finance
department
determined
with
the
technical
assistance
of
the
fire
department
that
Williams
USA
bid,
was
not
responsive
to
the
bid
specifications.
In
fact,
the
department
determined
that
Williams
USA
bid
failed
to
conform
to
several
specification
requirements.
O
O
In
order
for
a
bitter
to
be
eligible
for
word
of
a
bid,
the
bid
must
be
responsive
and
if
you
have
any
question,
the
city
attorney
would
be
glad
to
answer
any
question
on
this
matter.
But
I
would
say
that
a
responsive
bid
is
one
that
meets
all
of
the
established
terms,
conditions
and
specifications
of
the
bid.
An
agency
has
limited
discriminated
I'm,
sorry
that
the
agency
has
limited
discretion
and
may
only
wave
minor
irregularities
from
the
bid
specifications.
O
The
specifications
for
more
for
mobile
and
portable
radios
were
developed
in
conjunction
with
the
millbrae
central
county,
san
mateo
and
the
san
bruno
fire
departments.
The
specifications,
at
least
in
part,
were
prescribed
by
the
requirements
of
a
grant
application
submitted
by
the
city
to
the
Federal
Emergency
Management
Agency.
On
behalf
of
all
four
agencies,
the
bit
by
Williams
USA,
materially
deviated
from
the
following
specification
requirements
that
the
radios
be
p25,
compliant
that
they
have
the
capability
and
capacity
for
512
channels
and
50
zones.
O
O
O
Yet
within
the
62
page,
written
appeal
appear
statements
acknowledging
that
the
bid
does
not
meet
the
specifications.
I
can
say
this
appeal
hearing
is
not
about
the
city's
financial,
financial
condition
or
the
revenue
expenditure
imbalance.
The
City
Council
has
dealt
with
over
the
last
several
years.
In
fact,
the
City
Council
has
been
extremely
diligent
in
acknowledging
taxpayer
costs
and
the
costs
that
this
city
is
exposed
to
over
a
long
period
of
time.
O
A
K
You,
okay,
then,
I'm
assuming
that
good
evening
to
everyone,
I'm
assuming
that
you've
all
received
my
packet
okay.
So
I'm
going
to
respond
to
mr.
Miller
Issa
letter,
a
couple
of
inconsistencies
in
there
that
I
really
don't
care
to
bring
up
right
now,
but
the
bottom
line
is,
is
that
you
know
when
this
bid
was
let
I
was
and
the
bids
were
we
responded
to.
K
I
was
never
given
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
anybody
in
the
city,
the
police
department
or
anyone
else
with
my
numerous
emails
and
voicemails
that
I
wanted
to
come
by
and
discuss
the
opportunities
that
the
icon,
radio
equipment
would
do
and
how
it
complies
with
the
bid
specifications.
I've
never
happened,
no
matter
how
many
times
I
asked
everybody
number
one
in
mr.
O'leary's
non-compliance
he
says
were
p25
non-compliant.
That
is
not
true
and
in
fact,
actually,
the
kenwood
radio
is
not
non-compliant
an
attachment,
a
right
here.
What
you
have
in
your
packet,
I
emailed
mr.
K
teles
and
asked
him:
does
the
radio
need
to
be
full
p25
compliant
we're
just
merely
capable,
and
he
said
capable
it
would
be
done
used
later
on
now.
The
difference
is,
is
that
I
come
makes
a
radio
that
is
p25
upgradeable
its
compliant,
but
it's
upgradeable
later
on.
So
why
spend
a
thousand
dollars
now
on?
A
radio
that
you
don't
have
have
to
do.
P25
is
something
you'll,
never
do
it's
not
mandated
by
the
city,
the
county,
the
state
or
the
federal
government
only
for
federal
agencies.
K
If
you
went
p25
everybody
around,
you
would
have
to
go:
pee,
25
and
you're
talking
millions
and
millions
and
millions
of
dollars.
So
that's
it
say:
icom
came
up
with
a
radio
to
allow
people
to
buy
a
upgradable
radio
to
make
them
feel
better
that
they
could
buy
it
later
on,
save
yourself
a
thousand
dollars
or
radio.
That's
why
we're
109
thousand
dollars
low
on
the
bid
on
the
basic
bid?
So
we
believe
that
we're
compliant
because
of
the
email
from
mr.
kelly's
advising
us
that
it
was
a
b-25
capable
radio.
K
K
Also
stated
fifty
zones
and
512
channels:
well,
that's
another
kind
of
a
something
that
people
put
in
bid
specs
that
because
they
get
it
off
the
back
of
a
radio
brochure,
512
channels,
you
don't
need
512
channels,
I've
been
in
the
radio
business
37
years
in
public
safety
in
the
bay
area,
with
Motorola.
Without
many
different
agencies,
San
Mateo,
County,
Fire,
Services,
published
document.
We
have
43
channels
in
the
whole
Bay
Area
on
fire
channels,
state
of
California
fire
scope,
cAL
FIRE,
83
channels.
They
means
a
total
of
126
channels.
K
The
radios
we
bid
are
256
channels.
You
got
130
left
over.
What
do
you
do
with
they're?
Not
even
out
there,
so
the
512
channels
that
really
a
kind
of
a
non-existent
type
of
bid
specification?
You
don't
need
it.
Why
are
you
asking
for
it?
Well
because
it
was
on
the
back
of
the
brochure
of
the
kenwood
brochure.
So
that's
what
we
put
in
there.
We
feel
that
that's
a
not
a
good
specification
to
put
in
there
and
it
brings
you
into
a
radio
and
makes
you
more
of
a
sole
source
type
of
radio.
K
When
it's
something
you
don't
need
again
you're
paying
a
hundred
nine
thousand
dollars
more
for
something,
you'll,
never
use
p25
again
the
p25
people
are
buying
the
p25
radios
that
they
don't
need
to
buy
because
they're
not
mandated
by,
like
I
said,
the
city
county
or
the
state,
and
also
there
was
a
University
of
Pennsylvania
survey.
It
just
came
out
about
p25
interoperability
in
the
security.
Oh,
it's
already
been
compromised,
so
it's
basically
worthless
right
now,
number
two
is
or
number
30.
Mr.
K
O'leary's
we're
not
compliant
listed
the
five
channel
direct
entry.
The
five
channel
direct
entry
is
a
proprietary
expect
to
kenwood.
Nobody
else
does
it.
We,
however,
and
I
come,
can
do
that
verse
using
the
channel
select
knob
in
a
bank
to
accomplish
pretty
much
the
same
thing.
However,
getting
back
to
your
bid,
specs
here's,
the
kenwood
control
head.
It's
got
nine
buttons
on
it.
It's
going
to
take
five
buttons
for
you
to
do
this.
5-Channel
operation
select,
which
means
you
don't
have
enough
buttons
to
do
a
bid.
K
Spec
in
here
it
said
you
had
to
have
Cal
Fire
interoperability.
That
means
a
command
bank.
You
have
no
button
for
that
by
the
time.
You
add
that
by
the
time
you
add
the
multiple
peel
select
four
caliphs
are
to
select
the
mountain
top
sites.
The
scan
n
delete
functions,
an
emergency
button
that
were
mandatory
in
the
bid
spec,
you
don't
have
enough
buttons
left
over,
so
it's
it's
worthless.
It
was
put
in
the
bid
spec
to
make
it
proprietary
next
thing
is:
is
that
the
there's
a
voice
enunciation
capable
on
the
portable?
K
It
wasn't
a
mandatory
inspect?
It
was
an
option
state,
so
in
the
option
list
and
voice
a
now
see
a
shin,
in
my
opinion,
is
just
one
of
those
Gucci
kind
of
things
that
really
nobody
cares
about
and
in
the
fire
department,
it's
probably
more
detrimental
than
anything
else.
When
you
change
the
channel
knob,
it
says
channel
one
bank
one.
K
Why
do
I
need
to
know
that
I've
been
a
fireman
for
20
years?
I
know
what
channel
1
and
channel
2
is
when
they're
on
a
scene
in
a
fire
and
there's
a
lot
of
hectic
going
on
and
he's
changing
channels,
and
it's
going
to
keep
saying.
Lol
channel
5
channel
6
channel
7,
that's
something
you
don't
need
it's
again,
a
proprietary
feature
of
kenwood
and
not
worth
100.
Nine
thousand
dollars
also
on
the
bid
were
options
for
FM
approved,
not
incentive
and
intrinsically
safe.
Let's
take
FM
approved
non
incentive.
K
Ephemera
proved
not
incentive
is
a
federal
classification
that
guarantees
that
the
radio,
when
you
push
to
talk
to
talk
on
it,
doesn't
produce
a
spark
in
gaseous
atmospheres.
Methane,
propane's,
acetylenes
dust
filings,
any
kind
of
gasolines
things
like
that,
which
the
fire
department
handles
a
lot
of
time
from
a
vehicle
accident.
The
gasoline
spill
to
go
on
in
somebody's
home
that
the
water
heaters
leak
and
that's
propane
all
over
the
gas
all
over
the
place
reference
your
pge
gas
explosion.
K
K
Their
price
list
on
the
bid,
those
are
options-
submersible
ax
t-
is
an
option
which,
of
course,
the
fired
fun
would
really
like
to
have
because
they
crawl
through
water
and
things
like
that
during
a
structure
fire.
It
makes
the
radio
sealed
against
water
intrusion
and
brings
up
the
life
likelihood
of
the
radio.
That's
another
twenty
one
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
on
the
kenwood
and
every
two
years
you
got
to
spend
another
twenty
thousand
one
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
to
get
a
recertified
Wow.
Okay.
K
So
now
we're
up
to,
let's
see
here,
163,000
dollars
more
to
get
two
options
that
I
come
has
standard.
It's
a
no-brainer.
Now,
additionally,
when
you
run
with
the
FM
approved
option
on
the
kenwood,
you
have
to
go
down
to
a
lower
battery
on
the
bits
Beckett's
at
3,300
milliamp
hour.
You
have
to
go
down
to
what
twenty-five
hundred
million
power
battery
and
you
lose
about
three
hours
where
the
battery
time
that's
critical,
critical
in
a
fire
operation.
You
don't
have
time
to
change
batteries.
The
icon
is
a
14
and
a
half
hour
battery.
K
I'm
to
considers,
maybe
we
could
call
a
special
meeting
and
we
can
talk
about
it.
Further.
I,
don't
see
anybody
in
the
city.
That's
got
37
years
worth
of
experience
in
evaluating
radio
communications
that
may
have
used
them
for
37
years.
I
may
have
talked
on
them,
but
they're,
not
degreed
they're,
not
accredited,
and
really
it's
like
having
a
maybe
a
city,
sanitation
worker,
doing
brain
surgery
at
Stanford
University.
How
can
you
evaluate
the
patient
when
you
know
nothing
about
it?
K
I
Mr.
mr.
Williams
I'm
wondering
mr.
O'leary
stated
that
in
your
initial
bid,
or
perhaps
your
the
initial
bid
that
you
submit
it
did
not
meet
some
of
those
specifications.
Did
you
at
any
point
change
the
the
model
or
any
of
the
specifications
that
you're
posing
no
I?
Do
not
so
your
initial
bid
did
in
your,
in
your
opinion,
meet
all
of
the
specification.
Absolutely.
K
And
the
three
items
that
I
brought
up,
which
were
in
his
in
his
letter
response
to
me
that
I
was
non-compliant
on
was
p25
when
in
fact,
we
are
because
we
were
told
we
get
a
bit
of
capable
radio
which
we
did
the
512
channels.
You
got,
you
don't
have
512
channels
when
you
need
it
for
I'm,
giving
you
a
radio.
That's
you
can
have
130
left
over
there's,
not
that
many
channels
in
the
United
States
you're
going
to
get
so
that's
ridiculous.
The
voice
enunciation.
K
That
was
an
option
which
are
going
to
pay
for
it
wasn't
a
speck
and
it's
like
I,
said
detrimental
to
the
I.
Think
the
public
safety
people
I
would
never
have
that
and
the
other
one
was
the
five
buttons.
If
you
utilize
all
those
five
buttons
you're
going
to
take
buttons
away
from
things,
you
actually
need,
like
your
MDC
signaling
acknowledgement,
your
cal
fire
command
bank.
K
What
you're
supposed
to
have,
or
she
can't
go
to
a
cal
fire
fire
and
get
money,
and
your
multiple
PL
select
foresight,
selects
for
cal
fire
repeaters
and
a
few
other
items
emergency
button
which
was
required
in
the
vid
specs.
If
you
take
all
those,
if
you
put
all
those
features
you
need
in,
you,
don't
have
five
buttons
left
over
to
meet
that
spec.
So
if
you
take
the
five
buttons
you're,
not
compliant
on
the
other
ones,
if
you
put
the
other
ones
and
you're
non-compliant
on
the
five.
I
K
The
five
channel
was
that's
a
proprietary
specification
to
kenwood,
and
so
is
the
voice
Annunciation,
so
that
makes
the
bid
proprietary
right
there
with
those
two
features.
The
OC
Annunciation
was
an
option,
not
a
requirement.
The
512
channels,
I'm
attributing
you
know.
If
you
look
at
the
bid,
specs
they're
pretty
atrocious
for
anybody
that
went
out
and
put
together
a
bit.
There's
no
transmitter
and
receiver
specifications.
K
There's
nothing
that
tells
you
what
the
quality
of
the
radio
all
you're
asking
for
is
a
50
watt,
radio,
it's
a
mobile,
it
has
512
channels,
and
it
does
this.
Isn't
this?
There
was
no
transmitter
and
receiver
spectra
juror,
always
in
bids
vacations.
Always
that
tells
you
what's
inside
the
radio
and
how
quality
it
is.
Anybody
can
make
a
milspec
radio,
but
can
they
all
do
point
25,
25,
microvolts,
a
sensitivity,
no
point
35?
K
Maybe
so
the
inside
of
the
radio
is
what
tells
you
what
the
quality
is
and
then,
of
course,
you
got
the
options
and
things
like
that,
so
I
attributed
the
512
channels,
because
that,
if
you
look
at
that
bid
the
way
that
that
bid
was
laid
out,
it's
exactly.
It's
just
a
copy
of
the
back
of
a
kenwood
brochure.
That's
the
bids
back,
usually
bin
specs
about
five
pages
for
these
kind
of
radios.
So
these
are
right
off
the
back
of
the
kenwood
were
here
so
I
attributed
the
lack
of
experience
to
the
512
channels.
K
People
don't
know
that
they
don't
need
512
channels
or
maybe
they've,
never
thought
about
it.
Think
about
it.
I've
got
it
all
right
here
for
you
there's
your
channel
plan,
that's
for
the
whole
yep
for
the
whole
technical
county
or
the
Santa
san
bruno
and
the
san
mateo
county,
43
channels,
state
of
California
fire
scope,
83
channels,
that's
126
channels!
Why
teeny
512?
Why
won't
a
radius
256
channel
for
give
you
a
hundred
thirty
left
over.
O
K
B
K
E
K
I
left
several
voicemails
for
mr.
tulley's
and
several
emails
over
the
course
of
the
three
months
because
he
had
the
you
had
the
gas
explosion
now
and
everybody
was
quite
protecting
and
I
did
manage
to
talk
to
him
once
for
about
three
minutes
and
then
a
fire
call
any
goes
yeah
yeah.
We
need
to
talk
and
sit
down
and
find
out.
Why
your?
Why
you
did
what
you
bidden
what's
all
about
and
then
a
fire
call
came
in
and
he
was
gone.
K
He
goes
I'll
call
you
back
and
that's
the
last
I
ever
heard
from
him
and
I
left
several
more
calls.
After
that
I
talked
to
mr.
O'leary
when
he
was
doing
the
review
and
I
said:
let's
get
together.
Let
me
show
you
how
my
radio
is
compliant
with
these
specifications
and
the
intent,
but
that
never
happened
either.
So
nobody
ever
took
me
up
on
my
offer,
which
is
really
kind
of
strange,
that
nobody
want
to
talk
about
the
videos.
B
And
I
want
to
be
clear
to
because
I
know
that
you
were
asking
for
some
special
meetings
when
it
came
to
this,
of
course,
under
Municipal
Code.
This
is
the
form
in
which
we
have
this
type
of
Appeal.
The
other
thing
is
you
stand
to
four
members
of
the
City
Council
asking
for
us
to
call
a
special
meeting
out
of
the
Municipal
Code,
which
three
of
us
can
do.
Unfortunately,
when
you
do
that,
we
can't
respond
and
coordinate
that,
because
that's
a
violation
of
brown
act.
B
So
that's
why
nice
one
of
that
clear,
because
I
don't
want
you
to
assume
because
I
talked
to
her
city
attorney
to
get
clarification
and
do
that
cuz.
I
know
you
wanted
the
mayor
to
call
it
and
that
didn't
seem
to
work.
So
then
you
went
to
the
four
of
us
trying
to
get
us
to
call
a
special
meeting
by
three
of
us,
calling
that
and-
and
we
can't
coordinate
our
efforts
like
that,
because
that
is
in
violation
of
the
the
brown
act.
So
I
just
wanted
that
to
be
understood
and
clear
too
yeah.
K
A
D
D
D
D
O
D
O
I,
try
outdo
him
mate,
yes,
yeah,
okay
and
just
just
1
1
comment
on
the
specifications.
I
guess
my
observation
is
that
the
specifications
call
for
very
robust
radios.
These
are
not
bottom
of
line,
I
mean
they
are
high
quality
they're
they're
requiring
high
quality
radios
with
a
number
of
safety
features.
But,
as
the
chief
indicated,
these
specifications
were
developed
by
the
four
agencies
and
we
needed
as
far
for
for
the
for
the
application
of
FEMA
that
all
the
radios
needed
to
be
the
same.
So
the
four
agencies
came
together.
O
There
were
some
agencies
on
some
of
the
specifications
felt
very
strongly
that
they
needed
to
be
included
and
I'm,
not
to
suggest
that
the
san
bruno
fire
department
for
each
one
of
them
felt
that
that
was
but
as
a
group,
these
were
the
safety
and
operational
features
that
the
four
agencies
agreed
upon
as
meeting
they're
meeting
their
needs.
So.
O
The
City
Council
back
in
July,
passed
a
resolution
for
the
city
to
submit
the
grant,
on
behalf
of
the
four
agencies
and
I'd
like
to
read
the
first
two.
Where
asses
of
that
of
that
resolution,
the
first
one
says
where,
whereas
the
Federal
Communications
Commission
will
require
all
public
safety
agencies
to
switch
from
from
wideband
to
narrow
boundary,
oohs
and
p25
compliance
by
january,
first
2013
and
whereas
san
mateo
county
fire
agencies
are
tentatively
planning
to
be
in
compliance.
In
2011,
a
regional
grant
was
submitted
on
be
half
of
the
four
of
the
four
agencies.
O
O
O
Mr.
Williams
further
argued
that
an
email
prior
to
the
bid
deadline
from
battalion
chief
dais
that
the
radios
must
be
p25
capable
was
the
word
that
the
chief
used
lead
Williams
to
bid
their
upgradeable
unit.
I
can
only
say
that
chief
k
is
intended
to
reiterate
that
the
units
must
be
p25
compliant.
The
word
he
used
capable
means
having
the
attributes
required
for
performance.
The
radios
bid
by
Williams
USA
do
not
have
the
attributes
to
be
p25
compliant
and
could
only
become
so
at
an
addition
cost
of
about
seventeen
hundred
dollars.
O
O
O
Admit,
I,
don't
have
the
37
years
of
experience
in
radio.
Mr.
Williams
refers
to.
My
understanding
is
that
these
two
features
are
not
proprietary
for
the
kenwood
product
product
that
it
is
a
feature
of
that
product,
but
there
are
other
radio
products
in
the
marketplace
that
also
feature
or
offer
both
of
those,
but
both
of
those
capabilities.
O
Again,
I
would
just
say
the
combined
safety
and
operational
requirements
for
the
four
agencies
are
reflected
in
the
bid
specifications
and
again
the
question
to
the
council
tonight
and
the
question
to
the
finance
department
when
they
made
their
determination.
I
believe
the
question
before
the
city
manager
in
making
the
having
the
hearing
with
mr.
Williams
was
a
determination
is
the
bid
responsive
to
the
specifications
just
in
closing
over
in
the
far
back
of
the
room
is
mr.
Daryl
Jones
mr.
Jones
has
had
and
has
in
some
instances
contract
with
agencies
in
San
Mateo
County.
O
As
a
consultant
for
communications
in
the
process,
I
asked
mr.
Jones
to
look
at
the
specifications
and
to
look
at
the
bid
submitted
by
Williams
USA,
and
if
you
have
an
interest,
he
can
answer
for
himself
I
believe
he
would
say
that,
in
his
opinion,
the
bid
submitted
by
Williams
USA
does
not
meet
the
specifications
that
were
part
of
this
bid
and
I'd
be
glad
and
chief
answer.
Any
other
questions.
You
have
any.
G
Tutor,
yes,
mr.
Larry
evidence
and
sir
Williams
makes
very
compelling
case,
but
then
there
is
a
number
six
in
your
findings
in
your
letter
is
just
as
compelling
because
it
says
a
bidding
party
shall
not
dictate
the
requirements.
What
I'd
like
to
know
is
that
I
think
you've
made
it
clear
what
compete
25
compliant
is
means
that,
whatever,
whatever
rate,
if
we
have
a
p25
compliant
radio,
it
will
qualify
when
these
guidelines
take
place
either
this
year,
2013,
no
sir
upgradeable
I
understand,
that's
not
incapable.
G
I
can
understand
them,
I,
guess
what
not
knowing
technically,
you
know
what's
going
on
with
these
types
of
pieces
of
equipment,
can
this
agency
set
these
specs?
Even
though
there's
going
to
be
debate
amongst
other
providers,
service
providers
or
equipment
for
lunch?
Can
the
agency
set
specs
and
stick
by
them,
whether
or
not
they're
viable
or
not?
H
Attorney
student
agencies:
do
it
all
the
time
I
mean
you?
Do
it
with
respect
to
public
every
public
works
project
you
ever
have
we
do
it
with
respect
to
all
of
our
purchasing
a
you
know
from
from
day,
one
I
think
staffs
opinion
has
been.
Mr.
Williams
argument
is
with
the
specs
and
he
just
has
a
different
opinion
as
to
what
we
should
have
required,
but
you
know,
and
he's
admitted
that
with
the
p25
and
with
the
512
50,
so
yes,
we
can
set
whatever
specs
we
want.
G
O
We
we
have
verbal
confirmation
from
FEMA,
a
FEMA
representative
that
the
radios
must
be
p25
compliant.
We
attempted
here
in
the
in
the
short
period
or
the
holiday
here
to
get
written
confirmation
of
that
and
we
were
not
able
to
get
it
in
writing.
But
Joe
taya's
did
receive
verbal
confirmation
that
the
radios
must
be
25
compliant.
O
O
L
I
Have
a
few
questions
so
getting
back
to
the
p25
p25
from
from
what
I've
read
and
was
able
to
understand,
is
a
digital
infrastructure
for
radio
communications,
something
that
we
don't
currently
have
in
place
and
I
think
in
the
battalion
chiefs
email.
He
responded
that
he
wanted
the
radios
to
be
compliant
yet
out
of
the
box,
not
using
p25.
So
clearly
it's
something
we're
not
going
to
use
immediately
and
for
mr.
Williams
comments,
it's
something
that
would
be
very
expensive
for
us
to
upgrade
to.
I
If
we
decided
we
were
going
to
go
that
route
and
also
indicated
that
perhaps
that's
a
that
would
only
be
required
for
federal
agencies,
even
though
the
federal
grant
would
state
that
everyone
needs
to
be
compliant.
They
would
likely
not
force
a
local
agency
to
be
on
that
on
that
bandwidth,
so
I
mean
it's
almost
like
the
whole
digital
television
thing.
If
you
have
a
box,
you
you
get
digital.
I
I
know
that
the
grant
has
language
in
there
that
that
says
that
these
things
have
to
be
included
and
that's
how
they
ended
up
in
the
end
of
spec,
but
being
that
we're
not
going
to
use
it
from
a
functionality
standpoint.
It
seems
like
we're
almost
splitting
hairs
on
how
these
things
are
going
to
work
out
of
the
box.
We're
not
going
to
be
using
it
anyway.
I
O
O
O
See
I
might
just
add
that
I
don't
think
the
the
difference
between
the
512
channels
and
256
channels
is
a
significant
cost
difference
in
in
the
radios
and
again,
as
even
mr.
Williams
I
think
point
pointed
out.
The
real
cost
difference
in
the
bid
I
mean
the
difference
between
mr.
Williams
bid
and
the
other
three
bidders
there.
The
three
bids
that
received
is
really
this
issue
of
p21,
client
and
and
and
that
variation
I
mean
I
would
agree
that
I
think
that's
the
price
difference
in
in
his
bid.
Okay
and.
I
O
Actually,
the
second
bidder,
when
it
one
of
the
one
of
the
requirements
stipulated
in
the
bill
and
in
the
bid,
was
that
the
bitter
needed
to
submit
sufficient
literature
with
their
bid
to
allow
the
review
of
responsiveness
and
to
be
sure
that
the
bid
met
the
city's
bid,
specifications
and
requirements.
The
second
bidder,
the
one
immediately
above
mr.
O
O
I
O
Don't
believe
it
was
included
in
the
specifications
and
no
comment
of
mine
is
to
say
anything
negative
about
mr.
Williams
equipment
or
the
icon
equipment.
You
know
I'm
sure
it's
very
good
equipment
and
it
may
it
may
have
some
features
that
are
different
and
are
very
good
and
helpful
and
safety
features
again.
The
point
is,
it
simply
wasn't
part
of
our
specifications
and
when,
when
the
initial
review
on
the
part
of
the
city
manager,
I
conducted
I
didn't
look
at
additional
features,
the
question
I
was
trying
to
trying
to
answer
is:
did
this?
I
J
I
Like
there
will
be
the
first,
no
thanks,
yeah
I
think
there
might
be
some
opportunities
where
we're
actually
leveraging
the
various
vendors
and
maybe
not
just
a
single
vendor,
but
maybe
a
subset
of
vendors,
to
supplement
our
our
knowledge
and
our
the
depth
of
our
knowledge
into
some
of
those
products.
Because,
yes,
yeah
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
can
be
experts
in
everything
and
leveraging.
Some
of
that
expertise
in
even
or
upfront
and
developing
the
specs
might
be
might
be
useful.
B
Thank
you
sure,
chief.
How
many
years
have
you
been
with
one
department
or
another
you're
approved
32
years
32
years,
so
you
would
say
you
have
some
experience
and
radios
I
like
to
push
the
button
and
talk?
Yes,
okay,
good!
So
give
me
your
assessment
and
view
because
to
me
what
we're
here
for
and
is
about
as
the
specifications
that's
what
this
appeal
is
about.
I
mean
I
can
tell
you
that
this
floor
is
better
than
that
floor,
but
in
essence,
if
you've
specified
this
is
the
floor.
B
You
want
I'm
using
my
analogy
for
me,
then
that's
what
I'm
supposed
to
give
you
specs
on.
So
to
me
it's
about!
Are
the
specs
and
specifications.
Have
they
been
met
for
what
we're
asking
for
what
FEMA
who's
up
to
going
to
pay?
Eighty
percent
or
is
would
be
paying
eighty
percent
for
these
four
agencies.
We
know
it
really
certainly
been
denied
by
FEMA
before
so.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
are
compliant.
So
in
your
opinion
on
the
specifications,
can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
those
as
far
as
what
it
meets?
B
P
Again,
this
was
a
collaboration
between
four
agencies
who
developed
these
specifications
and
I.
Think
you
know
in
our
discussions
with
mr.
Jones
I.
Don't
think
these
specifications
are
over
the
top
I
think
they're
high
quality
units
that
we
were
looking
for
and
I
think
the
one
things
we
haven't
talked
about
in
this
county.
We
look
interoperability,
you
know,
so
this
puts
four
agencies
with
the
same
equipment.
Interchangeable
if
need
be
and
compatible
so
I
mean
that
that's
one
of
the
focuses
of
the
of
the
entire
FEMA
grant.
You
know
mr.
P
Williams
is
not
incorrect
on
the
p25.
The
directions
on
the
FEMA
grant
was.
We
refer
to
the
safe
calm
and
as
part
of
that,
unless
we
could
demonstrate
that
p25
was
a
detriment
to
the
organizations
or
communications,
then
that
would
be
included
in
the
bid
specification
as
that's
what
chief
Kaos
went
ahead
and
did
so
the
512
I
understand.
You
know
we
might
not
use
all
five
12,
but
we
certainly
have
expandable
capabilities.
P
You
know
we're
going
through
cal
cal
fire
is
going
through
their
changeover
right
now.
So
who
knows
what
might
happen
down
the
road?
So
you
know
in
mr.
Jones
a
experience
we
do
have
agencies
in
this
county
with
512
channel
capability.
Also,
so
you
know
san
bruno
wasn't
a
voice.
Enunciation
enunciation
wasn't
a
san
bruno.
P
B
N
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Darryl
Jones,
I'm,
contractually
responsible
for
design
and
engineering
of
the
fire
communication
system
throughout
the
county
of
san
mateo
and
I've
about
32
years
of
experience
in
various
phases
of
public
safety.
Communications
I
was
not
involved
in
preparation
of
the
bid
specifications
that
are
in
question.
I've
had
a
chance
to
briefly
review
them.
N
I
am
thoroughly
aware
of
the
benefits
and
the
downside
of
p25,
and
one
thing
I'd
like
to
call
to
your
attention
is
that
it's
extremely
unlikely
that
the
fire
service
in
san
mateo
county
will
ever
have
a
p25
radio
system.
However,
the
fire
service
throughout
the
state
of
California,
in
fact
throughout
the
United
States,
depends
critically
on
mutual
aid
and
the
ability
of
a
firefighter
a
fire
engine,
a
fire
truck
and
the
radios
that
are
associated
with
those
firefighters
to
go
out
of
jurisdiction
and
by
having
a
radio,
that's
capable
of
numerous
channels.
N
It's
not
uncommon
for
on
a
mutual
aid,
instant.
If
you
remember
back
when
our
apparatus
had
to
go
to
Southern
California
to
assist
with
the
firefighters
or
the
wildland
fires
there,
that,
depending
on
where
you
go
in
the
state
over
the
next
five
years,
I
believe
that
we
will
start
to
see
more
agencies
using
p25
radios
and
if
a
san
bruno
or
san
mateo
or
millbrae
firefighter
has
to
respond
out
of
the
area,
especially
into
u.s.
Forest
Service
jurisdiction.
N
There
is
a
possibility
that
those
radios
will
have
to
be
programmed
once
they
get
on
scene
to
operate
in
p25
mode.
However,
I
don't
believe
it's
likely
that
we
will
be
using
p25
for
fire
service
radios
here
in
San,
Mateo
County,
probably
ever,
but
that
is
a
very
important
distinction
or
consideration
that
when
we
go
out
of
jurisdiction,
we
do
need
to
have
equipment.
That's
capable
of
operating
in
digital
mode.
Q
Q
Q
My
name
is
john
singer
and
I'm:
a
San
Mateo,
County
resident
and
I
on
metro
mobile
communications,
also
located
in
San
Mateo
County
for
over
25
years
and
I
do
have
a
business
interest
in
this
matter.
I
will
say
that
you
don't
need
37
years
of
experience
in
this
industry
to
understand
the
difference
between
a
p25
or
digital
radio
and
a
non
p25
or
analog
radio.
Q
So
the
bid
spec
was
very
clear.
Assume
it's
minimal,
I
agree,
but
it
says
two
things
on
the
front
face
the
document.
It
says
with
narrowband
capability
and
p25
compliant.
It's
very
clear
to
me
that
what
you
were
looking
to
purchase
was
a
p25
radio,
a
p25
digital
radio,
they're
very
expensive
now.
I.
Think
mr.
Williams
argument
is
that
he
has
a
roughly
equivalent
product
that
you
can
buy
from
him
for
half
that
money,
$100,000
versus
roughly
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
the
bid
spec
is
written
for
p25
digital
digitally
compliant
radius.
Q
His
radio
is
not
digital,
it
is
not
p25
compliant.
If
you
want
to
buy
an
analog
non
p25
compliant
radio,
there
are
a
lot
of
radios
in
the
price
category
of
the
ones
that
he's
selling
that
are
also
very
good
products.
I
also
only
want
to
add
that
the
city
of
san
bruno
fire
and
central
county
fire
are
already
using
a
version
of
the
kenwood
p25
radio
and
they're
very
happy
with
it
has
proven
to
be
a
very
exceptional
product.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
K
Quick,
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
some
of
the
things
that
mr.
O'leary
brought
up
and
just
so
everybody
knows
all
radios
are
pretty
much.
They
all
talk
and
listen.
It's
like
a
cell
phone.
It's
just
features
different
on
them.
So
having
an
icon,
radio
and
a
kenwood
radio
next,
each
other
in
the
same
truck,
there's
no
difference.
They
all
thought
it
was
in
the
same
way.
So
don't
think
that
one's
different
the
other
and
they
can't
intervene
goal
they
can
number
one
is
mr.
K
O'leary
said
in
his
report
that
the
NOAA
band
mandate
of
January
first
of
2013
is
correct
by
the
FCC,
but
he
also
stated
that
p25
compliances,
and
that
is
incorrect.
There
is
no
and
I
repeat,
no
mr.
Jones
I'm
sure
can
answer
the
same
question.
There
is
no
mandatory
mandate
or
any
mandate
at
all
by
the
FCC
for
cities,
counties
or
states.
Only
the
federal
government
period
interfacing
with
u.s.
Forest
Service
engines.
They
one
of
the
features
of
p25,
is
its
dual
mode.
K
It
works
in
conventional,
like
you're
on
now,
and
it
works
in
p25
at
the
same
time,
programmable
by
channel.
They
have
your
fire
channels,
they
have
cAL
FIRE
channels,
they've
got
everybody's
fire
channels.
When
you
show
up
everybody
and
their
department
goes
to
the
analog
channels,
not
an
issue.
When
you
go
to
on
cal
fire,
they
reprogram
your
radio
for
you,
nobody
else
does
they
do
and
they
wipe
out
all
the
channels
are
in
there
and
they
put
their
channels
in
so
512
channels
is
a
moot
point.
K
The
reason
why
some
people
have
512
channels
is
because
that's
all
kenwood
makes
then
I'll
make
it
ten
channel
radio
or
a
50
channel
radio
same
with
icom
same
with
motorola.
They
all
pick
a
channel
amount
that
they
think
is
sufficient
for
the
industry
and
that's
what
they
make.
There's.
No,
it's
512,
that's
it
or
it's
256,
that's
it
so,
just
because
they
have
512
channels,
that's
cuz,
that's
all
I
could
get.
K
They
couldn't
get
anything
less
so
you're
on
the
five
button
programming
and
also
the
other
agencies
that
have
all
these
different
features
and
the
end
the
p25
mandate
would
challenge
mr.
O'leary
to
show
me
show
me:
the
specifications
show
me
the
law,
the
federal
grant
show
me
there.
Anything
you've
got
that
tells
you
that
the
federal
government
mandating
what
you
buy.
K
They're,
not
one
thing
I
will
say,
though
these
correct
on,
and
this
is
a
big
misnomer,
the
state
of
california's
fallen
for
it
and
a
lot
of
public
safety
agencies
around
the
country
of
fallen
for
it,
and
I've
been
bringing
bring
this
up
too
many
people
and
they've
realized
it
and
bought
the
radios
that
I'm
selling
or
the
competitors
equivalent.
That
is
is
that,
on
a
on,
a
p25
federal
grant
depends
on
who
you
get
it
from
and
what
agency
in
the
federal
government,
sometimes
they
make
you
buy
a
p25
radio.
K
You
don't
have
any
choice.
If
you
want
that
money,
you
got
to
spend
three
thousand
dollars
for
a
radio
instead
of
11
hundred
dollars
for
an
analog
radio
that
can
be
upgraded
to
it.
They
make
you
do
it,
even
though
you'll
never
use
it,
which
of
course
is
a
waste
of
everybody's
money
since
there's
no
mandate
for
it.
If
you
folks
go
digital
everybody
in
this
county
and
everywhere
and
around
the
barriers
gonna
have
to
go
digital,
you
can't
talk
to
him
and
their
consortium
for
here
in
san
jose.
That's
millions
and
millions
of
dollars.
K
He's
already
stated
that
nobody
would
probably
ever
do
it
state
of
California.
Don't
have
any
money
to
do
it.
That's
not
mandated
they're,
not
gonna.
Okay,
we've
got
to
wrap
it
up
here,
pretty
quick,
okay,
so
all
I'm
saying
is
that
it,
depending
on
the
on
the
grand,
the
federal
government
sometimes
says
quote,
unquote,
has
to
be
for
p25.
Some
say
just
be
25,
so
it's
open
for
debate
if,
in
fact
that
it's
full
p25,
then
the
email
that
I
got
back
in
mr.
K
Telly,
stating
that
hey
it
could
be
capable
was
the
wrong
thing
for
him
to
say,
and
that
led
me
to
bid
what
I
bit
can
I
been
a
full
p25.
Absolutely
can
I
be
kenwood
absolutely
so.
At
the
very
least,
you
know
if
we've
got
all
these
semantics
going
around
and
people
not
understanding
what
the
bid
specs
are
and
what
p25
is.
Maybe
it
ought
to
be
well
I'd
like
to
get
the
bit
of
orbit.
Maybe
it
ought
to
be
rebid
I,
don't
know
alright,.
A
J
N
Name
is
Bill
Bauer
I'm,
a
15-year
resident
of
san
bruno,
and
I
represent
the
kenwood
factory
for
the
manufacturer
of
the
kenwood
radios
and
I'll
just
make
two
brief
points.
After
a
long
dialogue,
a
lot
of
this
over
many
of
our
heads
I'll
just
simply
say
that
the
if
the
big
one
hit
tomorrow,
the
federal
agencies
that
would
assist
us
would
show
up
here
talking
on
digital
radios.
They
will
bring
their
own
digital
infrastructure
with
them,
and
it's
important
with
the
experience
we
had
here
in
the
city
where
60
homes
are
impacted.
N
You
can
imagine
the
chaos
every
one
of
our
all
of
our
heroes
in
the
city
were
pressed
to
the
limits.
Addressing
that
you
can
only
imagine
in
a
much
more
scalable
large
disaster
how
important
it
will
be
to
communicate
with
our
federal
agencies,
who
will
be
communicating
on
p25
radios.
Finally,
that
we
do
have
radios
at
Kenwood
that
are
p25
upgradeable
radios
that
are
in
the
same
cost
category
is
the
ones
that
are
the
gentleman
who
is
competing
with
us
for
this
contract,
and
should
you
want
those
analog
radios
that
are
upgradable
to
p25?
A
You
very
much
okay,
discussion,
action,
I,
just
like
to
say
a
couple
words
I
think
the
key
for
me
was
was
what
mr.
Williams
said
a
number
of
times
in
my
opinion
and
I,
don't
believe
we
set
these
specifications
out
to
ask
for
opinions.
We
set
them
out
to
ask
for
a
specific
product
that
complied
to
certain
specifications,
specifications
that
were
fairly
well
laid
out.
It's
you
know,
I
work
in
a
construction
industry
and
I
deal
with
bids
and
specs
all
the
time,
and
it's
fine
for
me
to
and
try
to
anticipate
in
the
future.
A
What
may
happen
and
what
I
might
be
able
to
get
away
with
and
what
I
might
be
able
to
to
save
the
owner
at
but
sure
as
hell
I
go
in
in
the
very
beginning
with
plans
and
specs.
Otherwise
they
just
throw
you
out.
So
I
think
it's
it's
just
a
real
basic
question
of.
Did
you
bid
the
specifications?
No
I,
don't
believe
he
did
I'll.
Let
the
council
speak
any
action.
I
Michael,
but
one
comment
I
would
make
what
would
be
that
I
believe
he
may
develop.
Mr.
women's
made
a
valid
point
in
that
in
the
email
from
battalion
chief
tells
it
did
say
that
he
did
not
want
it
to
be
digital
out
of
the
box
which
to
me
meant
it
wasn't
a
hard
fast
requirement,
and
if
the
digital
radios
are
in
fact
digital
out
of
the
box,
then
that
was
a
little
misleading,
misleading,
okay.
B
D
B
Was
just
going
to
say
that
I
think
it
comes
down
to
this
is
about
the
suspects,
that's
what
this
is
about
and
and
I
think
mr.
Williams
indicated
he
does
have
a
radio
that
would
meet
the
specs
and
you
chose
not
to
bid
that
I'm
somewhat
with
the
mayor
in
that
when
somebody
asks
for
specific
specifications,
that's
what
should
be
adhere
to
that's
what
these
four
agencies
came
together.
B
That's
what
the
professionals
are
provided-
and
you
know
maybe
I'm
just
sentimental,
because
what
happened
three
months
ago,
but
when
I
stood
there
and
watched
it
unfold
and
watched
those
that
needed
everything
at
their
disposal
in
action
for
what
they
had
to
do
when
what
our
residents
effort
I'm
not
willing
to
take.
In
my
opinion,
I
want
things
to
be
specific.
I
want
things
to
be
assured.
I
want
specifics
to
be
met
because
I
want
to
ensure
that
whatever
happens
in
the
future,
we
are
prepared.
C
G
B
A
M
Thank
you
I'll
be
giving
the
presentation.
Mcgary
lipari
is
our
technical
expert,
so
he
could
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
following
this
report
as
well.
Every
three
years,
the
California
Building
Standards
Commission,
updates
the
California
building
codes
and
there's
a
number
of
code
books
that
comprise
the
California
Building
Code
series.
They
include
things
like
the
California
residential
code,
the
california
energy
code,
the
Californian
plumbing
code
and
there's
about
a
dozen
of
them
that
comprised
the
whole
California
Building
Code
series
when
the
requirements
in
these
codes
change.
The
cities
are
required
to
implement
these
changes.
M
However,
cities
are
able
to
amend
the
code
if
based
on
local,
climatic,
geographical
or
topographical
situations,
but
these
amendments
must
be
approved
by
the
Building
Standards
Commission
prior
to
implementation.
In
the
passcode
cycle
three
years
ago,
San
Bruno
did
adopt
several
local
amendments.
Those
were
mostly
related
to
their
proximity
to
the
San
Andreas
Fault,
as
well
as
our
proximity
to
SFO.
These
included
commercial
sprinkler
requirements,
airport
noise
windows,
roof
requirements,
appeal
requirements
and
the
council
remembers
the
time
limit
ordinance
for
building
codes
building
permits.
Although
staff
is
proposing,
no
other
major
policy
type
amendments.
M
This
time
around
passed
amendments
will
be
carried
forward.
There
also
be
some
smaller
technical
requirements
that
also
be
proposed
as
the
and
the
overall
code
amendment
package.
However,
from
time
to
time,
the
state
also
adds
a
code
book
and
that's
the
subject
of
this
report.
The
state
is
adding
a
green
building
codes
book
becoming
the
first
state
in
the
nation
to
have
green
building
standards.
M
What
is
unique
about
this
code
book
is
that
the
state
is
allowing
the
city
to
adopt
tiers
of
green
building
standards,
so
there's
a
mandatory
tier
that
goes
into
effect,
no
matter
what,
but
the
cities
are
also
allowed
to
adopt
a
tier
1
or
a
tier
2,
and
each
gets
incrementally.
There's
more
standards
involved
with
that,
as
well
as
additional
energy
savings
as
a
result,
and
ultimately,
whether
to
adopt
these
tears
is
a
policy
choice
of
each
individual
city.
Council
in
California
does
not
require
the
approval.
M
The
California
Building
Standards
Commission,
so
I'll
go
over
a
couple,
a
couple
things
a
couple
of
the
requirements
for
the
mandatory,
as
well
as
the
tier
1
or
tier
2.
One
thing
important
thing
to
remember
is
that
this
Green
Building
Code
only
applies
to
the
new
construction.
It
doesn't
apply
to
any
remodels
or
additions
only
brand-new
construction
of
homes,
so
a
few
of
the
requirements
that
be
as
the
mandatory
level.
M
There
requires
both
a
stormwater
plan,
as
well
as
a
surface
water
management
plan
for
all
single-family
homes.
So
this
is
something
that
is
new.
There's
increased
energy
requirements,
energy
efficiency
requirements.
There
is
a
one
big
thing
as
a
requirement
for
a
twenty
percent
reduction
in
indoor
water
use.
M
The
mandatory
code
also
Institute's
construction,
as
well
as
indoor
quality
requirements,
so
Tier
one
would
be
the
step
up
from
that.
Some
of
the
things
that
are
required
in
Tier
one
is
additional
topsoil
protection.
One
interesting
thing
is
a
20-percent
requirement
for
permeable
paving
on
site.
That's
something
that
we
have
within
our
residential
design
guidelines,
but
it's
something
that's
also
replicated
within
this
tier
1
code.
M
One
important
thing
is
exceeding
the
California
energy
standards
by
fifteen
percent.
There's
additional
landscaping.
Irrigation
requirements
also
requirement
to
have
ten
percent
recycled
content,
be
used
for
construction
materials
and,
finally,
a
sixty-five
percent
reduction
waste
requirement.
If
you
take
it
a
step
further
and
go
up
to
tier
two
there's
now
a
30-percent
permeable
paving
requirement,
you
need
to
exceed
California
energy
codes
by
thirty
percent,
a
number
of
other
requirements,
including
the
75
percent
reduction
in
construction
waste.
M
Of
course,
these
are
there's
going
to
be
costs
involved
for
all
of
these
and,
as
you
go
up
for
each
tier
there's,
additional
short-term
costs.
Of
course,
they
also
lead
to
long-term
savings,
but
in
terms
of
the
short
term
costs,
if
you're
just
to
update,
if
you're
just
to
go
with
the
mandatory
code,
there's
probably
about
a
five-thousand-dollar
cost
increase
over
what
how
you
build
a
code
now,
but
that's
that's
mandatory,
and
this
is
for,
if
you're,
building
your
standard,
22
square
but
new
home.
M
If
you're
going
up
to
the
tier
1
requirements,
you're-
probably
spending
about
a
thousand
dollars
to
two
thousand
dollar
mowers
for
the
energy
core
portion
and
about
ten
to
twenty
thousand
dollars
more
for
the
overall
requirements
and
finally
tier
two
you're
going
up
to
about
20,000
to
forty
thousand
dollars
more
than
the
mandatory
requirements.
So
that's
the
cost
side.
Obviously
the
benefit
side,
there's
huge
environmental
benefits,
especially
when
you
look
at
the
cumulative
impact
of
this
being
adopted
over
all
the
cities
to
California
and
at
California,
usually
being
the
leader
in
environmental.
M
Other
states
will
follow,
but
the
benefit
is
range
from
energy
efficiency,
to
reduction
in
water
use
and,
of
course,
recharging.
The
city's
groundwater
system
through
the
use
of
permeable
paving,
and
it
should
be
noticed-
as
we
know
it
in
the
staff
report-
that
these
costs
will
begin
will
drop
over
time.
As
these
requirements
take
place.
There
will
be
additional
suppliers
in
the
market
which
will
drive
down
costs
and
end
up
for
savings
with
the
homeowners
of
hung
as
overtime
and
the
break-even
point.
M
For
all
of
these,
it's
hard
to
estimate
an
exact
break-even
point,
but
is
typically
about
ten
years
time,
so
regarding
a
recommendation,
staff
is
recommending
that
the
City
Council
adopt
the
Tier
one
measures.
As
you
see
from
your
staff
report.
These
are
consistent
with
a
number
of
other
cities
within
San,
Mateo
County
and
we're
recommending
these.
For
a
few
reasons.
First,
is
the
within
the
general
plan.
M
The
City
Council
did
provide
staff
with
direction
to
always
look
at
what
environmentally
sustainable
options
there
are
within
the
within
building
standards,
and
we
feel
that
the
tier
1
standards
do
take
a
leadership
role
in
this
with
in
san
mateo
county,
also
from
a
contractor,
a
business
owner
and
a
homeowner
standpoint.
These
are
some
the
most
consistent
with
other
cities
within
San,
Mateo
County.
M
You've
heard
us
talk
about
removing
the
moving
target
before
and
this
would
do
it
by
being
the
most
consistent
with
other
cities
within
San,
Mateo
County
and
finally,
while
the
two,
your
two
requirements
might
be,
the
best
thing
for
the
long
run,
I
think
is
the
best
bet
to
let
the
market
catch
up
with
these.
So
the
product
prices
dropped
and
we
could
eventually
implement
these.
M
What
we
don't
want
to
do
is
put
ourselves
in
a
competitive
disadvantage
with
other
cities
by
adopting
these
tier
two
requirements,
and
some
developments
could
pass
us
by
because
the
costs
associated
with
them
or
just
more
in
the
short
term
so
with
that
I
could
take
any
questions,
but
our
recommendation
is
to
adopt
the
tier
1
requirements.
Good
question
to
check.
I
M
Could
try
to
answer
this
and
see
if
Gary
needs
to
follow
up
my
nigha
see
this?
They
don't
they
don't
have
to
have
certain
qualifications,
what
they
do
as
today
at
the
proposed
plant
that
are
to
the
specifications
of
the
code.
So
if
they
don't
have
a
qualified
architect,
a
qualified
builder,
that's
not
able
to
build
it.
They're
not
going
to
pass
plan
check
or
they're
not
going
to
pass
their
building
inspection
know
if
you
wanted
to
add
anything.
Gary
Thank.
C
You
councilmember
there
are
certain
requirements
for
subcontractors
to
have
certain
qualifications.
There
will
be
duct
testing
requirements,
and
so
there
has
to
be
hers
Raiders.
They
have
to
have
a
certain
certification
in
order
to
test
the
duct
system
for
a
new
gas
furnace.
So
there
may
be
those
types
of
qualifications,
but
generally
Erin
is
correct
as
far
as
the
general
contractor
would
be
just
a
regular
general
contractor
that
wouldn't
have
to
have
necessarily
any
additional
knowledge
than
what
they
have
now.
Okay,.
I
M
A
there
is
going
to
be
a
learning
curve
and
I
think
there's
a
learning
curve
anytime,
there's
a
code
cycle
and
maybe
even
more
that
this
time.
But
I
don't
think
the
learning
curve
will
be
more
going
from
the
mandatory
code
to
the
tier
1
requirements
because
we'll
be
learning
at
the
same
time.
But
there
is
going
to
be
a
lot
of
references
to
code
books,
a
lot
of
trainings
that
we
have
to
attend
in
order
to
learn.
All
of
this.
M
Absolutely
I
mean
one
thing:
I
forgot
to
note,
especially
related
to
that
is
there.
There
is
a
learning
curve.
So
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
we're
talking
to
a
couple
Nam
nonprofit
groups
that
are
specifically
focused
on
green
building
techniques.
For
two
reasons.
The
first
is
to
hopefully
get
a
grant,
either
through
PG&E
or
another
entity
to
help
with
some
design
assistance
for
these
homeowners
and
architects
that
are
proposing
new
homes
in
the
glenview
area.
M
G
Through
the
chair,
I've
got
over
30
years
of
experience
in
this
Vincent
and
I've,
been
through
ten
building
codes
in
this
and
probably
in
that
state,
and
what
concerns
me
about
this
new
code
and
really
the
only
big
change.
That's
happened
in
the
30
years
really
has
been
energy
compliance,
insulation,
yeah
and
glazing
things,
and
since
that
time,
since
that's
been
developed
and
I,
see
it
coming
now,
the
documents
have
doubled
tripled.
G
Not
only
are
you
providing
drawings
for
a
design
for
a
new
home,
you
are
providing
almost
a
booklet
of
energy
compliance
forms
and
in
turn,
now
the
state
wants
in
the
building
departments
want
those
want
those
documents
on
the
drawings.
So
it's
it's
paperwork
and
I
only
ask
because
you
know
that's
the
livelihood.
I
only
ask
that
that
the
building
departments
throughout
this
county,
you
know,
coordinate
and,
and
our
plan
checkers,
you
know,
make
it
very
clear
of
what
the
requirements
are,
what
they
want,
because
there's
nothing
fun
about
submitting.
G
So
you
know
submitting
documents
for
building
permit
and
getting
numerous
pages
of
plan
check
comment
stating
you
need
to
do
this.
You
need
to
do
this.
You
need
to
do
this,
you
know
and
then
having
to
resubmit
things
and
time
time
goes
on,
so
it's
just
another
stage,
another
layer
of
what
needs
to
be
done
to
comply
and
to
approve
a
project
and
as
long
as
it's
known
what
to
do,
and
it's
and
and
I
appreciate
what
san
bruno
billion
apartment
planning
department
has
done
in
the
last
couple
years.
G
M
I
agree,
and
that's
actually
something
that
Gary's
I
think
done
really
well
since
coming
on
board
a
few
years
ago,
is
getting
that
information
and
setting
the
expectations
early
on
in
the
process,
so
that
people
aren't
caught
off
guard
so
wealth
update.
A
lot
of
the
pamphlets
will
have
to
update
our
residential
construction
guide.
That
provides
a
summary
of
what
the
building
code
is.
G
A
C
A
R
Our
previous
sewer
master
plan
was
developed
in
2000
in
two
thousand.
Since
then,
all
capacity
improvement
project
recommended
was
part
of
our
master
plan
were
already
implemented
right
now,
the
city
is,
and
our
holes
were
system
is
under
administrative
action
review,
initiated
by
the
Regional
Water
Board
and
legal
action
initiated
by
the
back
bay
keepers.
R
This
proposed
master
plan
is,
in
essence,
will
do
just
that,
we'll
evaluate
the
system
performance
and
will
recommend
system
improvement
needed
and
also
will
recommend
a
capital
improvement
plan
was
necessary
in
the
inner
October
of
this
year.
The
city
went
out
for
vitae
requests
for
proposals
and
240
consultants.
R
The
city
received
five
proposal
from
the
consultants
the
proposed
cost
for
the
master
plan.
Development
arranged
between
187
and
335,000
are
based
on
the
first
level
of
selection
process.
Three
consultant
firms
were
interviewed
for
MC
vacio
stand
winds,
learned,
Kalle
based
on
the
qualification
of
the
consultant
and
their
approach
and
understanding
of
our
system
and
our
specific
need.
At
this
time.
R
The
time
frame
for
the
project
would
be
to
start
the
flow
monitoring
as
soon
as
possible.
This
is
one
critical
element
of
this
master
plan:
development.
To
start
the
flow
monitoring
before
the
rainy
season
is
over
and
to
have
the
final
master
plan
developed
by
March
of
2012,
this
timeframe
in
our
assessment
and
this
time
would
meet
our
need.
R
B
R
Is
not
a
mandate?
How
often
should
be
done?
You
say
best
management
practice,
you
you're,
depending
on
the
system
and
the
system
need
many
agencies.
They
are
updating
each
each
five
years,
but
certainly
that
is
just
how
I
said
in
the
beginning.
Best
management
practice
is
not
a
mandate
having
that
said,
based
on
our
discussion
so
far
with
the
Regional
Water,
Board
and
also
with
by
keeper.
R
B
R
How
I
said
depend
on
case-by-case
basis,
depending
how
much
recommendation
in
your
prior
master
plan
was
made
of
those
projects
were
implemented.
If
any
new
information,
knowing
the
system,
do
you
think
that
needs
to
be
included
in
the
master
plan?
Certainly,
the
best
management
practice
is
to
update
at
least
each
ten
years.
F,
not
each
five
years.
Thank.
I
C
I
R
I
R
I
Now
say
if
I
were
to
propose
that
we
postpone
this
study
for
another
year
and
use
that
money
instead
to
address
some
of
the
other
issues
that
are
proposed
in
this
cease
and
desist
order,
maybe
projects
that
are
remnants
of
the
two
thousand
plan
and
then
planned
this
for
for
sometime
in
the
future.
The
this
tentative
order
says
that
their
plan
would
be
required
by
September
of
2013.
R
I
J
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
council,
I
like
to
remind
you
that
mr.
mayor,
you
were
at
the
meeting
when
mr.
Hill
asked
Simon
Hill
asked
if
the
investigation
in
to
the
San
Bruno
incident,
the
sewer
lines
worked
on
tremendously
on
the
glenview
area
and
the
question
was
asked.
It
was
my
question
that
he
asked
was
the
transmission
lines
checked.
After
all,
the
sewer
work
was
done
so
I
just
advise
you
that
if
any
sewer
this
new
sewer
work
is
done
near
ap,
Jeanne
gas
transmission
line,
you
makes
you
sure
PGA
gets
off
there.
A
We're
very
well
aware
of
that,
and
the
report
came
out
today,
and
one
of
the
highlights
of
the
report
was
in
fact
that
that
transmission
line
was
not
damaged
or
dented
in
any
way
because
of
any
kind
of
excavation.
That
was
done.
So
I
think
PG&E
and
san
bern
are
both
aware
of
what
happened
obviously
and
going
forward
right
yeah.
I
had.
G
R
I
just
would
like
to
follow
up
I
think
you
are
absolutely
right.
Under
the
console
leadership,
the
Serie
did
a
considering
the
eight
of
our
struck,
our
system
and
the
problem
with
our
system.
The
city
really
did
a
great
job,
investing
in
our
boat,
actually
sewer
and
water
infrastructure.
You
can
see
in
the
result
the
ssl
for
maine
for
the
sewer
mains
are
decreasing
from
year
to
year
in
the
last
three
years.
R
D
It's
been
a
long
15
years,
I
I
tumor.
Out
of
that,
we
started
it
and
we're
continuing
it.
It's
not
always
pleasant
to
tell
your
neighbors
that
you're
increasing
the
water
rates
or
the
sewer
rates,
but
I
always
remind
them
that
if
we
don't
get
it
fixed,
it's
all
going
to
collapse
and
it
won't
matter
how
much
water
is
out
there.
It
won't
get
to
their
pipes.
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
introduce
the
resolution.
C
I
A
B
The
chair,
I,
don't
know
you
know
on
a
note
of
the
budget,
but
obviously
at
the
end
of
the
year
is
about
here.
If
I'm
not
mistaken
will
be
getting
a
report
back
as
far
as
our
second
quarter
or
half
way
mark
for
the
budget.
Obviously,
in
other
communities,
they're
still
grappling
with
the
budget
and
trying
to
make
cuts
and
trying
to
balance
it
and
I
with
all
that's
happened.
This
last
quarter,
I,
don't
know
when
the
reports
going
to
come,
but
I
really
hope
that
we
look
diligently
at
where
we're
at
and
the
projection.
B
We
will
be
on
june
thirtieth
and
I
believe,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
next
month
or
there
about
the
budget
will
start
to
be
worked
on
for
the
next
budget
cycle.
So
I
guess
I
say
that
in
the
sense
that
I'm
just
kind
of
concerned,
obviously,
sales
tax
and
property
tax
obviously
may
not
be
coming
in
as
where
we
anticipated.
So
I
really
wanted
to
take
a
diligent
look
at
that
and
prepare
and
be
prepared
for
what
lies
ahead
in.