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From YouTube: San Bruno City Council Meeting 12/10/2013 Whole Meeting
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San Bruno City Council Meeting 12/10/2013
Whole Meeting
A
A
A
We
have
one
announcement
this
evening.
There
will
not
be
a
city
council
meeting
in
december,
twenty
fourth,
the
fourth
tuesday
in
december.
The
next
regular
city
council
meeting
after
tonight
will
be
held
on
january
fourteenth
2014
presentations
aren't
any
presentations
this
evening
review
of
the
agenda
issues
with
the
agenda.
Ok,
Google
the
minutes
of
our
last
council
meeting
minutes
consent
calendar
all
items
are
considered
routine
or
implemented.
Early
council
actually
may
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
There
will
be
no
separate
discussion
unless
requested
by
councilmember
city
centre
staff,
anything
on
the
consent
calendar.
If.
A
The
second
on
the
question
on
favor
hi
item
number
eight
public
hearings.
There
are
no
public
hearings
this
evening,
public
comment
and
items
not
in
the
agenda.
It's
a
council's
policy
referred
matters
raised
in
this
forum
to
staff
for
investigation
and
or
action
were
appropriate.
The
Brown
Act
prohibits
accounts
from
discussing
are
active
on
any
matter.
Not
agenda
is
pursuant
to
state
law.
Would
anyone
like
to
adjust
the
council
into
public
comment.
D
A
E
Mayor
members
of
the
council,
we
have
tonight
raphael
Bolin
of
the
JPB
and
I
think
our
conversation
will
be
facilitated.
We
allow
mr.
Boland
to
make
a
short
presentation
cover
a
couple
of
topics
in
follow-up
to
previous
conversations
that
have
been
had
here
at
previous
city
council
meetings
and
then
allow
you
to
engage
discussion
both
about
the
arch
design
and
the
design
of
the
landscape
features
on
the
long
First
Avenue.
F
Thank
you
so
I'll,
just
very
briefly
give
us
a
status
update
on
some
of
the
Eastside
landscaping,
issues
that
have
been
ongoing
and
then
discuss
the
arch
where
we
are
in
next
steps.
So
the
two
items
on
the
east
side
that
I
like
discuss
are
the
sidewalk
along
first
avenue
and
then
the
terrorists
plants
in
both
items.
We
discussed
a
couple
of
council
meetings
ago
so
very
briefly,
on
the
sidewalk
alignment,
as
we
discuss
varies
depending
whether
here
to
the
north
or
to
the
south
of
time
along
first
and
all.
F
F
So
here's
where
we
are
today,
depending
which
side
of
Pine
Avenue
you
are
it's
either
a
sidewalk,
followed
by
planting
strip,
followed
by
a
wall
or
there's
a
landing
strip
followed
by
a
sidewalk
fall
by
wall,
and
the
recommendation
was
to
make
the
whole
length
have
the
sidewalk
a
mental.
Are
larger
planting
strip,
including
tree
wells?
So
here's
where
we
are
today
trees
against
the
side
for
part
of
it
and
here's
the
proposal
is
to
move
the
sidewalk
to
the
outside
for
its
entirety.
F
Second
item
I
wanted
to
mention
on
the
east
side
landscape.
This
is
a
follow-up
item,
but
just
a
correct
slide.
That
I've
shown
a
couple
times
here,
which
is
the
terracing,
and
this
is
the
original
version
I
presented
sort
of
gave
the
impression
it
was
relatively
flat,
whereas
in
reality
it
will
be
up
to
eight
feet
from
the
from
the
great
SAP
and
then
a
match
slope
of
2
to
1.
So
that's
one
of
the
slides
I
showed
previously.
I
showed
it
a
little
steep
rib,
which
is
to
be
clear.
F
So,
very
briefly,
where
we
are
at
the
mock-up
has
been
completed.
It's
been
viewed
by
the
council
as
well
as
by
city
staff,
and
there
were
some
concerns
that
came
out
of
this
process
and
also
some
of
the
quotes
and
bids
that
we've
been
receiving.
So
two
things
that
I
want
to
highlight.
One
is
about.
A
year
ago,
I
performed
an
estimate.
I
gave
a
total
cost
of
where
the
arch
was
going
to
be
at
about
1.2
million
dollars
since
then
receiving
some
more
information
from
the
contractor.
F
It
looks
like
that
number
is
closer
to
1.4
million
dollars.
Two
things:
one
we've
identified
some
items
that
we
could
pare
back
some
of
the
scope
items
to
get
it
back
to
1.2.
So
that's
something
I'd
like
to
talk
about,
and
then
the
second
thing
is
that
this
leads
to.
My
second
concern
that
was
raised
is
the
whole
concept
of
the
lighting
and
how
it
fits
with
the
ambient
light,
as
it's
out
there
and
so
I'm
going
to
present
another
alternative
as
well,
which
would
also
get
back
into
that.
F
F
So
the
other
concept
that
we've
been
exploring
is
in
lieu
of
lighting.
The
arch
internally
is
to
just
make
the
arch
a
solid
arch,
so
it
would
be
very
similar
in
size
and
dimension.
However,
rather
than
internally
lit,
it
would
actually
be
a
solid
arch
and
then
it
could
be
lit
from
the
underside
either
floodlit
or
some
either
front
platform
height
or
from
the
bottom,
to
give
it
a
little
more
of
an
accident
and
here's
the
same
shot
as
taken
during
the
day
and
then
finally
sort
of
next
steps.
F
Where
are
we
with
the
arch
and
moving
forward
so
where
we
are,
is
when
a
decision
point
in
terms
of
needing
to
know
how
we're
going
to
proceed
next,
so
the
central
question,
I
guess.
The
first
foremost
question
is:
what
is
the
city
interested
in
constructing?
Is
it
a?
Is
it
an
internally
lit
arch,
or
is
it
a
what
I'm
calling
a
solid
artois'd
slid
from
the
bottom?
Now
why
this
is
a
central
question?
F
Is
because
the
long
lead
item,
the
thing
that
would
basically
be
driving
our
schedule
is
the
procurement
of
the
Plexiglas
material
itself.
It's
a
long
lead
item
and
basically
by
the
20th
of
this
month,
that
will
become
the
critical
path
for
the
for
the
whole
job
and
obviously
we
can't
have
that
happen.
So
that's
the
concern.
F
So
if
we
were
to
go
with
a
solid
arch,
we
have
a
little
bit,
but
not
a
lot
more
time
because
now
you're
ordering
sheet
metal
but
advise
you
to
the
end
of
January
and
that's
it
I
understand
those
are
short
timelines.
I
appreciate
that,
and
so
my
third
bullet
point
is
very
simply
if
the
council
needs
more
time
to
make
this
decision
and
more
information
to
do
so.
F
What
that
would
mean
practically
is
if
these
two
timelines
can't
be
Matt
would
be
that
the
construction
of
the
arch
itself
would
have
to
continue
as
separate
from
the
main
great
set.
That
being
said,
we
have
built
a
fair
portion
of
the
arch
itself,
so
the
footings
are
in
the
ground.
We've
already
ordered
steel.
We've
bent
that
steel,
so
there'd
be
a
certain
amount
of
cost
in
transitioning
that
over
and
then
there'd
be
certainly
schedule
and
likely
cost
impacts
as
well
for
going
out
for
a
separate
contract.
F
And
I
can
furnish
you.
This
work,
this
information
in
greater
detail,
but
essentially
there's
a
menu
of
options
where
we
can
reduce
some
of
the
scope
and
various
combinations
of
that
adds
up
to
the
200,000
savings,
so
things
that
I'm
proposing-
and
these
are
just
my
ideas-
I
mean
we're
willing
to
look
at
other
ways
to
pare
back.
The
scope
is
in
the
current
1.4
million
and
we're
showing
the
elevator
glass
colored
glass.
My
recommendation
is
to
not
do
that.
The
other
elevators
already
units
already
clear,
it's
just
an
option.
F
Another
thought
would
be
currently
this
design,
although
it's
not
shown
in
this
figure,
assumes
a
three-dimensional
or
rather
elaborate.
Medallion
will
be
part
of
the
design,
and
so
unops
would
be
to
just
include
the
metallic
lettering
along
the
side.
That's
already
part
of
the
contract,
so
there's
zero
cost
to
that.
F
Better
okay,
I,
usually
not
accused
of
not
speaking
loudly
enough
or
so
but
said
the
back
side
could
get
a
little
bit
smaller.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
material
saving,
but
it's
mostly
the
lighting,
obviously
you'd
say,
and
so
those
are
the
main
things
we
would
show
to
compress
that
estimate.
The
other
thing
we're
doing
already
is:
we've
just
reduced
some
of
our
soft
costs
just
to
kind
of
force
it
into
that
1.2
threshold.
So
we're
doing
that
anyway,
regardless
of
the
direction
we
receive.
A
Raphael
I'd,
like
can
you
often
know
it
tonight,
because
you
probably
don't
have
it
all
in
front
of
you
but
I'd
like
to
know
what
you
spent
so
far
and
what
you
spent
it
on.
Ok,.
F
So
we've
spent
so
far
I
don't
have
the
complete
list
in
front
of
me,
but
we
are
at
approximately
five
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
five
hundred
eighty
thousand
somewhere
in
that
range
spent
today.
So
let
me
just
broadly
speaking,
discuss
where
that
went
in
so
roughly
and
I
sent
these
figures
to
staff.
I.
Don't
have
the
exact
numbers
in
front
of
me,
but,
roughly
speaking,
approximately
180
thousand
of
that
was
the
footings
and
the
foundation
for
the
arch.
So
essentially
whatever
you
build
it
there,
that's
that's
a
cost
that
would
be
recoverable.
F
The
remainder
of
the
construction
portion
was
approximately
40,000
for
the
steel
itself.
So
not
the
cladding,
not
the
stuff.
You
saw
on
the
mock-up
of
the
actual
skeleton
steel
and
another
approximately
40,000
to
bended
cut
it
in
shaping.
So
we
actually
have
the
steel.
It's
in.
It's
in
Oregon
right
now
been
and
ready
to
go.
F
So
again,
if
that's
a
cost
that,
if
you
were
still
going
to
build
something
down
the
road,
you
you
have
some
shipping
costs,
but
that
that
would
still
be
a
not
a,
not
a
lost
endeavor
and
then
finally,
we've
paid
most,
but
not
all,
of
the
design
costs
associated
with
this.
The
remainder
there's
a
small
amount,
therefore,
actually
building
the
mock
up
and
doing
viewings
and
things
like
that.
F
A
I'll
just
speak
for
myself:
I
I
saw
the
so-called
mock-up.
It
wasn't
pleased
with
it
at
all
because
to
me
and
I'm
in
this
type
of
Industry,
a
mock-up
is
what
you're
really
going
to
see
right
and
it
was
pretty
well
slapped
together.
It
only
had
one
face
on
it.
The
metal
was
wasn't.
Even
you
know,
on
it,
properly
was
bolted
with
C
clamps.
A
It
didn't
give
me
a
real
indication
of
what
was
going
on
and
I
didn't
like
it
at
all
and
I
I
personally
think
that
we
have
to
revisit
it,
whether
it
even
be
an
arch.
That's
not
my
feeling
now
so
the
city
I,
don't
believe,
is
going
to
give
you
an
OU
cave
by
December
twentieth.
We're
gonna
need
some
more
time,
and
I've
explained
this
in
mark
Simon
today
and
and
told
him
not
to
so
I'd
like
to
hear
what
the
rest
of
the
council
has
to
say.
F
G
E
G
Mean
I
agree
with
the
mayor,
saying
that
you
know
was
I
expected
more
expected
to
see
something,
but
it
was
enough
for
me.
I
was
there
with
the
vice
mayor
and
you
were
there,
and
it
was
very
clear
that
we're
not
very
clear,
but
it
occurred
to
me
that
this
was
not
going
to
really
appear
much
if
anything
like
the
original
designers
had
presented
it
to
us.
G
Now
that
this,
this
type
of
arch,
which
is
internally
illuminated
with
the
gun,
what
do
you
call
this
metal,
perforated
metal
perforated
metal,
is
to
be
unacceptable
because
you
are
going
to
see
the
ribs
of
the
frame
through
it
you're
resembling
it
somewhat
in
there.
But
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
detailed
than
that,
because
it's
going
to
be
framing
practically
at
every
foot
or
so
it
seems
so
you're
going
to
get
this
checkerboard
of
black
behind
this
green
illumination.
So
that
to
me
was
totally
unsatisfactory.
G
A
A
B
Oh,
thank
you.
I've,
never
really
been
a
fan
of
the
glowing
arch
anyway,
so
I
like.
F
D
F
They
caught
the
concept
in
this
figure
is
that
the
perforated
metal
would
just
go
out
the
window.
There
would
be
no
more
Plexiglas.
Instead,
the
whole
cladding
would
be
like
a
sheet
metal
that
would
be
welded,
so
you
wouldn't
see
seams
and
it
would
just
be
painted
a
dark,
green
or
whatever
other
color
was
requested.
A
J
The
name
is
Wes
cold
from
sylvan
avenue
and
representing
the
American
Legion
Hall
at
seven
five,
seven
san
mateo
avenue
and
a
seated
you
put
forms
for
ear
ominous
at
two
parking
spots.
Okay
in
one,
you
know,
that's
veterans,
it's
a
lot
of
a
handicap
veterans.
Chris
palace
was
originally
a
member
of
the
Council
here,
he's
handicapped.
He
needs
to
get
out
of
the
ready,
will
bus
and
there
any
world
has
no
place
to
apartment.
We
have
no
parking
in
the
front
and
you
guys
took
it
all
away.
A
C
J
J
Well,
I
won't
say
Sidewalk
the
divider
in
the
center,
where
you
guys
put
in
the
center
right
there,
the
medium
correct
and
in
front
of
the
all,
for
you
put
the
curb.
There
are
two
extended
out.
You
got
that
little
medium
there
and
it's
vert,
and
it's
not
very
wide
from
when
you
extend
the
sidewalk
out
to
that
medium
and
for
any
car
to
come
through
I,
don't
know
how
big
trucks
and
stuff
pretty
tough
for
it.
You
know
I
set
her
and
see
that
stuff
all
day
long.
A
B
H
Good
evening,
mr.
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council
I'm
Harry
burrows
and
I'm
the
city's
project
manager
for
the
crestmore
reconstruction
project,
the
item
before
you
tonight
is
the
recommendation
of
a
home
builder
for
the
ten
vacant
lots
in
the
crestmore
neighborhood
the
map.
That's
before
you
shows
the
current
ownership
of
the
vacant
lots
within
the
neighborhood.
The
lots
of
PG
neons
are
shown
in
green
outlined
in
green.
H
The
lots
of
the
city
owned
and
shown
in
red
city
currently
owns
five
lots,
two
of
which
the
ones
that
are
shaded
there
with
the
solid
shading
are
envisioned
for
future
public
purposes,
one
for
a
potential
expansion
of
the
park
and
the
other
for
a
public
open
space.
So
the
three
city
lots
and
the
seven
PG
neon
lots
total
total.
The
ten
lots
of
the
subject
of
this
item
tonight.
On
april
9th
of
2013,
the
city
council
directed
the
staff
to
coordinate
with
pge
and
package.
There.
H
Seven
lots
with
the
three
city-owned
lots
and
solicit
proposals
from
qualified
home
builder
developers
to
construct
homes
on
those
Lots.
The
issues
that
were
discussed
by
the
city
council
at
that
time
included
included
the
desire
to
avoid
a
fragmented
build-out
of
the
remaining
lots
to
seek
a
single
qualified
home
builder
developer,
who
possess
the
financial
and
operational
capacity
to
guarantee
the
time
of
completion
and
occupancy
the
homes
and
to
avoid
some
of
the
potential
challenges
of
selling
to
individual
individual
Lots,
some
of
which
would
include
how
to
select
a
purchaser
there's.
H
Multiple
parties
that
want
to
purchase
a
single
lot.
Other
issues
discussed
were
potential
financial
complications
when
an
individual
owner
doesn't
have
the
financial
capability
to
get
a
construction
loan,
as
well
as
the
purchase
of
the
lot.
So
those
were
some
of
the
items
that
were
discussed
subsequent
to
that
direction.
The
city
entered
into
an
agreement
with
pge,
had
appraisals
performed
an
issued,
a
request
for
proposals
in
August
of
2013.
H
The
RP
was
sent
out
to
over
fifty
home
builders
contractors
and
other
interested
parties.
The
RP
specified
certain
criteria
and
spelled
out
the
requirements
that
the
successful
builder
would
be
subject
to
these
criteria
included
developer
qualifications
and
experience
in
constructing
multiple
units
at
once.
The
financial
capacity
to
purchase
all
of
the
lots
and
finance
the
simultaneous
construction
of
ten
homes.
We
looked
at
operational
capability
in
the
structure
of
the
company,
as
well
as
their
proposed
architecture
and
design.
The
purchase
price
was
not
the
sole
and
primary
criteria
for
selection,
but
obviously
was
an
important
factor.
H
So
the
city
received
six
proposals
for
of
the
proposals
were
from
what
we
call
merchant
home
builders,
traditional
home
builders
and
two
proposals
were
from
investor
builder
groups,
staff,
ranked
the
proposals
based
upon
the
criteria
that
I
just
described,
with
particular
emphasis
on
the
operational
and
financial
capabilities
to
deliver
the
ten
constructed
homes
within
the
next
12
to
14
months.
Hopefully,
concurrent
with
the
completion
of
the
rebuild
of
the
infrastructure
in
the
neighborhood
to
the
proposals
were
ranked.
Essentially,
equally
those
were
the
castle
companies
and
anova
homes
listed
there.
H
All
of
the
proposals
were
deemed
responsive.
With
the
exception
of
dr
horton
DR
horton,
you
can
see
submitted
the
highest
purchase
price.
However,
they
did
not
submit
a
proposal
only
a
letter
of
interest,
so
their
proposal
was
or
their
their
response
was
disqualified.
Otherwise
all
of
the
teams
submitted
very
solid
proposals.
However,
the
lesser
ranked
teams
that
ranking
reflects
both
the
lack
of
extensive
experience
of
their
team,
their
lesser
financial
capability
and
or
lower
purchase
price.
H
So
staff
then
asked
both
deneuve
and
castle
to
additional
information
regarding
the
proposed
homes
they
would
construct,
including
examples
of
their
fit
and
finish,
make
sure
the
interiors
we're
comparing
apples
to
apples
and
other
assumptions
that
they
put
into
their
proposals
both
companies
after
this
analysis
were
deemed
again.
Equally
capable
staff
gave
the
nod
to
castle
based
upon
this
final
review
and
the
higher
purchase
price,
their
their
purchase
prices,
eighty-five
thousand
dollars
per
lot
average
higher,
so
staff
recommends
a
selection
of
castle
companies.
As
the
builder
of
these
ten
vacant
lots
very
quickly.
H
So
if
the
council
concurs,
the
next
step
would
be
the
negotiation
of
a
development
agreement
and
then
the
design
and
approval
process
and
ultimately,
construction.
It's
anticipated
that
if
the
selection
occurs
tonight
that
the
design
process
can
occur
during
the
spring
start,
construction
in
the
summer
and
home
sales
and
occupancy
can
occur
late
this
year
and
into
the
first
quarter
of
2015
mr.
Steve
Garrett,
the
president
of
Castle
companies
is
here
in
the
audience
tonight.
Should
the
council
have
any
questions
and
staff
is
also
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
any.
G
Here's
check
again:
can
you
explain
so
the
four?
If
we
accept
Castle
companies
with
the
purchase
price
of
four
point,
one
five
million,
so
that's
that's
the
compensation
to
the
city
or
to
the
you
know,
to
the
trust
or
to
the
foundation
and
that's
it
and
then
whatever
they
build
and
they
sell
that's
ghost
to
them.
Yeah.
H
G
My
other
question
is
that
when
you
say
that
they'll
come
the
review
process
through
san
berdo
Planning
Commission
sin
city
staff,
he
said
there
won't
be
any
variances.
It's
my
understanding
that
there
were
a
majority
of
the
new
homes
sought,
increased
fa.
Ours
I
mean:
are
you
saying
that
they
will
not
be
able
to
or
they
will
they
have
to
conform
to
the
threshold
figures?
G
H
G
H
G
So
semantics
aside,
I
mean
variance,
is
one
thing
but
and
maybe
the
community
development
director
could
we
have
an
fa
fa.
Our
threshold
of
fifty
five
percent
and
projects
were
approved
at
sixty-two
percent.
Okay,
are
we
saying
that
they
won't?
They
will
have
to
conform
to
the
fifty
five
percent
on
every
single
lot.
Ok,.
C
Real
quickie
to
god
it
goes
forward.
I
would
just
hope
been
encouraged
that,
as
far
as
the
development
and
the
even
the
selling
of
the
homes
be
thought
of
as
far
as
prevailing
wage
union
and
as
far
as
local
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
being
in
strong
consideration
as
this
project
goes
forward.
If
awarded.
B
E
E
E
Our
understanding
that
I'm
sorry
through
the
chicane,
you
sure
that
you,
through
the
city
canceled
they
it's
our
understanding
that
pge
does
not
intend
to
receive
any
net
proceeds
over
the
cost
that
they
incurred
in
purchasing
the
lots
and
that
any
at
least
net
revenues
would
be
donated.
It's
what
we've
been
told
to
charity
or
some
other
purpose
that
is
not
a
prophet
to
PG,
be
okay,.
D
I
I'm
Chris
Jerram
Barrow.
I
live
at
971
glenview,
dr.
I
have
empty
lots
on
both
sides
of
my
house
and
I
also
have
expressed
interest
in
buying
a
lot
we'd
like
to
buy
a
house
or
build
a
house
for
our
daughters
so
that
they
could
live
in
our
neighborhood
live
next
door
to
us.
They
may
not
like
that
now,
but
they
will
later
so
so
were.
A
I
K
Good
evening
mayor
when
members
of
the
council,
I'm
Steve
gear
and
I'm
a
partner
with
the
casual
companies,
I'll
try
to
keep
my
comments.
Brief
I
just
want
to
thank
the
staff
for
their
analysis
and
the
presentation.
We
were
pleased
to
participate
in
the
process.
We
thought
it
was
well
conducted
and
that
the
playing
field
was
level
and
we
rarely
see
of
the
opportunity
to
build
new
homes
in
a
community
along
the
peninsula
and
we're
very
much
looking
forward
to
this
opportunity.
K
A
large
portion
we've
been
in
business
for
40
years,
that's
a
family
owned
business
and
we
are
I'd
say
more
than
half
of
our
business.
Now
is
smaller
infill
home
building,
where
we're
working
with
neighbors
and
working
with
the
community,
and
this
this
fits
very
well
in
in
the
types
of
opportunities
and
things
that
we
are
pursuing
nowadays
after
the
the
real
estate
crash
and
we're
very
much
looking
forward
to
this.
K
In
addition,
with
some
questions
with
regard
to
prevailing
wage
I
believe
we
may
be
the
only
medium
sized
home
builder
in
the
bay
area
that
is
still
a
signatory
to
the
Union
carpenters
contract.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
completely
true,
but
I
think
it
is,
and
we
employ
Union
carpenters.
There
are
employees
and
they
have
been
the
the
folks
who
are
our
superintendents
have
been
with
us
for
about
20
years.
K
Typically,
so
we
were
a
long-term
relationship,
oriented
kind
of
a
business,
and
then
we
also
typically
try
to
employ
a
union
subcontractors
that
are
local
and
close
to
where
the
homebuilding
occurs,
for
the
natural
reason
that
if
there
are
service
requirements
or
something
goes
wrong
in
a
house,
occasionally
it
does
it's
easier
to
call
a
subcontractor.
That's
a
few
miles
away
than
one
that's
a
long
distance
away.
We
we
do
not
employ
soup-to-nuts
Union
contractors.
In
some
cases,
some
of
those
trades
simply
are
not
for
a
home
building.
K
There's,
not
unions
that
are
really
active
for
things
like
building
fences
and
things
of
that
nature,
so
we
don't
always
employ
them
and
then
another
with
respect
to
working
with
local
people.
We
did
do
our
market
analysis
locally
and
we
used
a
local
agent
and
we
would
definitely
be
talking
with
with
her
about
considering
to
work
with
us.
You
know
if
we
were
selected
and
if
we
move
forward
with
this
opportunity.
Thank
you
very
much
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
just.
A
K
K
A
A
Maybe
I
can't
get
the
financing
we're
going
to
wait
another
year
and
have
this
neighborhood
continually
impacted
your
you're
really
impacted
now
with
what's
happening
up
there
as
far
as
the
storm
drains
and
the
laterals
coming
up
in
traffic
and
the
streets,
and-
and
we
want
it
to
minimize
that
as
much
as
possible,
but
there's
nothing
to
to
preclude
to
any
of
you
from
you
know
going
forward
and
talking
to
that
particular
agent.
Whenever
that
agent
is
hired,
you
know
to
get
in
line.
K
We
provided
mr.
Burroughs
and
his
team.
Financial
information
and
Rev
is
from
of
money
center
banks
that
you've
all
heard
of
without
naming
names
and
those
references
are
there
and
they
are
financed
us
in
this
type
of
project
and
this
size
project
in
the
past
and
they're
more
than
capable
and
willing
to
do
it
here.
Thank
you
very
much.
Karen.
G
Katz
one
last
question,
sir,
with
the
economy
of
scale
here:
ten
homes,
all
at
once,
plus
you
you
just
bought
the
dirt
for
four
hundred
over
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
I
know
I
don't
think
you
can
sell
these
homes,
for
you
know
1.5
2
million
dollars
apiece.
I
grew
up
hello,
you
tell
you
life,
but
I
think,
can
you
give
some
sort
of
percentage
as
to
the
economy
of
scale?
How?
How
much
you'd
be
sitting?
You
know
how
much
you
could
save
as
opposed
to
you
know
a
family,
that's
building
a
custom
home.
K
So
we
have
that
advantage,
but
the
disadvantage
sometimes
with
the
10
homes
would
be
for
us
to
finish
10
homes
simultaneously
and
then
sell
and
close
them
simultaneously.
That's
a
disadvantage
because
you
realistically
aren't
going
to
close
10
homes
all
in
the
same
30
days
span,
so
we're
going
to
some
carrying
costs
there.
There
a
disadvantage.
I,
don't
think
that's
great,
especially
in
the
interest
rate
environment.
K
We're
in
today,
to
get
more
specifically
to
answering
your
question
councilman,
to
borrow
what
I
am
accustomed
to
seeing
is
if
a
homeowner
comes
to
build
us
a
nicely
finished
home
of
this
size,
they
could
expect
to
pay,
maybe
300
to
400
dollars
a
foot
to
build
that
house
in
today's
environment,
with
a
builder
with
our
economies
of
scale
and
our
relationships
and
the
different
things
that
we
can.
You
know,
for
example,
you
know
architectural
costs
are
lower.
K
Structural
engineering
is
lower
because
we're
building
a
very
similar
home
in
the
same
neighborhood
with
the
same
soils
conditions.
So
we
have
all
those
advantages
in
lowering
our
costs.
I
would
think
that
we
could
probably
do
it
for
half
of
that
or
maybe
a
little
more
than
half,
so
they
hope
that
answers.
Thank
you.
I
A
I
A
I
You,
the
beautification
task
force,
is
going
to
do
their
annual
holiday
lights
on
channel
1
during
the
Christmas
and
New
Year's
timeframes.
So
you
can
turn
on
channel
1
and
see
if
your
house,
if
you've,
lit
your
house
up
for
the
holidays,
if
you,
if
you
put
fits
on
there
or
not,
if
you
want
to
make
sure
that
your
house
is
on
there,
you
can
take
your
photo
yourself
and
email
it
to
me.
My
email
address
is
on
the
city
website.