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Description
San Bruno Planning Commission Meeting June 19, 2012
5C. 1150 El Camino Real
A
B
B
Zoning
district,
which
has
site
specific
requirements,
the
exact
type
and
location
of
retail
uses,
are
not
really
specified
within
that
plan
development,
and
so,
since
this
is
an
outdoor
sales
use,
that's
not
specifically
permitted
in
those
words
in
the
PD
I'm
staff
determined
that
a
use
permit
or
temporary
use
print
would
be
required.
So
the
first
step
was
bringing
it
forward
to
the
City
Council
to
confirm
that
the
use
is
consistent
with
the
overall
plan
development.
B
The
City
Council
did
make
this
determination
on
April
24,
and
at
that
time
they
also
requested
two
conditions
of
approval,
which
I'll
discuss
just
a
little
bit
later.
The
next
step
in
the
approval
process
was
that
we
staff
reviewed
the
application,
as
we
normally
would
we're
about
routed
it
to
all
the
reviewing
departments,
including
engineering
fire
and
the
police
department.
Then
the
community
development
director
approved
a
temporary
use
permit,
subject
to
the
conditions
from
all
of
those
departments
and
temporary
use
permits
by
the
Community
Development.
B
Director
are
good
for
up
to
three
months,
so
the
market
has
been
operating
every
Sunday
since
May
twentieth
under
that
temporary
use
permit.
So
now
the
project
is
before
the
Commission
in
order
to
continue
for
the
remainder
of
the
2012
season.
So
now
I'd
like
to
turn
to
some
of
the
details
of
the
market
foods.
A
D
E
D
I
mean
there's
two
I
mean
there's
the
yeah
when
there's
a
direct
financial
gain,
yes
and
there's
an
obvious
conflict
and
then
there's
a
conflict
of
interest
that
has
to
do
with
perception.
You
know:
does
the
public
think
that
there
could
be
something
that
makes
you
vote
a
certain
way
so
that
that's
another
thing
is
just
to
perceived
conflict
of
interest
as
well.
I
think
this.
E
A
B
B
The
location
is
in
the
parking
lot
and
you
can
see
it
in
the
exhibit
see
to
your
staff
report
the
it's
basically
north
of
the
main
entrance,
so
that
main
entrance
that
people
go
into
that's
across
from
the
crossing
and
that's
generally
in
front
of
ulta
is
where
the
farmers
market
is
held
and
it's
up
against
the
El
Camino
Real
side.
The
market
is
approximately
located
on
70
parking
spaces
and,
as
you
can
see
there
in
the
exhibit
it
covers
to
drive
aisles.
B
The
market
area
is
separated
with
barriers
and
cones
from
the
internal
driveway
and
from
the
adjacent
parking
area.
There's
also
a
pedestrian
buffer
area
that
separates
the
market
area
from
the
main
drive
aisle.
So
this
creates
an
area
for
some
visibility
and
improved
pedestrian
safety,
as
people
are
moving
from
the
market
area
to
the
parking
or
to
the
mall
area.
B
Also,
a
Pacific
Coast
farmers,
market
staff
member
is
on
site
each
Sunday.
They
oversee
the
circulation
and
the
safety
aspects
of
it
and
make
sure
that
those
pedestrian
and
circulation
measures
are
effective
because
some
of
them
may
need
to
be
improved
or
updated
as
the
market
really
grows
and
is
successful
at
that
location.
B
It's
also
worthwhile
to
note
that
the
market
is
proposed
to
end
before
the
holiday
shopping
season
and,
as
you
know,
planners
and
engineers
evaluate
peak
perking
in
the
shopping
mall
such
as
this
really
during
the
holiday
season,
and
this
market
will
be
over
before
the
peak
shopping
season
begins.
So
we
do
not
anticipate
a
parking
issue
that
will
stretch
into
the
peak
season
and
I'd
like
to
review
a
key,
a
couple
of
key
conditions
of
approval
for
the
project.
B
First,
with
a
condition:
number
10
and
11,
the
applicant
is
responsible
for
trash
recycling
and
all
of
the
cleanup
of
the
site.
So
it's
strictly
their
obligation
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
trash
that
overflows
in
the
mall
or
into
the
public
right
away
condition
number
30
if
there
were
to
be
any
impact
on
traffic
or
circulation.
B
So
that's
some
of
the
other
conditions
of
approval
approval
are
fairly
standard
for
any
kind
of
special
event
or
outdoor
event,
and
that
would
happen
within
the
community.
Since
the
market
started
operating
on
May
twentieth,
we
have
not
received
any
concerns
or
questions
from
any
members
of
the
public
from
any
residence
or
from
any
city
departments.
So
no
issues
have
come
up
since
the
market
started
operating,
so
staff
does
recommend.
Approval
of
these
permits,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
in
the
staff
report
and
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
F
A
B
A
When
you
were
giving
you
a
reporter,
you
said,
or
so
just
want
to
clarify.
The
second
item
I
have
is
there's
a
requirement
for
I
may
prefer
back
17
and
18.
First
one
requires
a
ad
a
parking
area
of
at
least
two
van
accessible
spaces
from
the
exhibit
it
doesn't
seem
like
there's
a
van
accessible
space,
a
van
accessible
ad,
a
space
shown
on
the
exhibit
here's
this
requirement
for
in
the
vicinity
of,
or
is
there
a
limit
as
how
far
this
this
van
accessible
space
is
supposed
to
be
you're.
B
Correct
it's
not
on
the
site
plan
after
the
site
plan
was
generated
and
we
talked
with
the
building
official
about
having
those
tube
and
accessible
spaces.
They
need
to
be
in
that
immediate
vicinity.
So
what
we
recommended
is
that
they
reduce
the
number
of
a
da
parking
spaces
and
stripe
out
the
van
accessible
area
or
otherwise
block
it
out
to
provide
that
immediately.
Adjacent
and.
A
I
assume
the
same
goes
for
the
ad
a
bathroom
in
the
sink.
It's
not
shown
on
the
plan,
but
it
will
be
provided
for
that's
crying.
The
vicinity
of
correct
the
other
question
I
had
was
did
was
any
consideration
for
this
function
not
being
located
here
but
right
next
door
in
the
Sears
portion
of
the
parking
lot,
which
is
less
dangerous
for
pedestrians.
There.
A
E
G
G
A
H
My
name
is
alan
moyer
I'm,
the
assistant
director
of
the
Pacific
Coast
Farmers,
Market
Association.
We
are
located
at
50,
60
commercial
circle
in
concord,
california,
we
are
partners
with
the
San
Bruno
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
shops
at
tanforan
mall
and
served
as
the
farmers
market
operator
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
the
chamber,
the
shops
at
champion
in
the
city
of
San
Bruno
for
your
support
and
the
staff
support
in
giving
us
the
temporary
use
permit
and
allowing
us
to
open
in
May.
The
market
has
been
successful.
H
If
we
have
a
lot
of
growing
to
do,
the
original
application
stated
the
potential
for
50
vendors.
We
have
been
over
the
past
several
weeks,
averaging
more
20
to
25,
so
we
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
really
create
the
market,
that's
of
the
size
and
scale
and
quality
that
this
community
deserves
and
we're
working
hard
at
that
there
are
two
of
the
conditional
use
to
the
conditions
that
I
just
would
like
to
ask
the
Planning
Commission's
there's
some
opportunity
for
flexibility.
H
That's
number
18
and
19
number
18
of
to
a
DA
restrooms.
We
rent
portables
that
are
delivered
on-site.
Then
they
are
serviced,
on-site
and
removed.
Given
the
fact
that
we
are
about
half
capacity.
Currently,
we
were
hoping
for
the
flexibility
to
have
only
one
restroom,
with
a
180,
a
restroom,
with
an
ad
a
sink
available
until
the
market
reached
the
size
where
there
was
the
demand
for
a
second
that
would
give
us
the
savings
of
several
hundred
dollars
a
week
that
we
could
invest
into
additional
marketing
for
the
farmers
market.
H
Secondly,
number
19
in
terms
of
the
placement
of
the
fire
extinguishers.
It
makes
the
statement
of
mounted
to
a
fixed
location
as
everything
that
we
do
is
temporary.
We
have
we
put
up
temporary
tents
for
the
day.
We
would
prefer
not
to
a
fix
something
to
tanforan
property.
They
would
probably
prefer
that
also.
There
was
also
be
no
way
for
us
to
guarantee
security
since
we're
only
for
seven
hours
per
week,
so
we
would
hope
for
some
flexibility
to
perhaps
have
those
in
a
visible
location.
We
set
up
a
farmers
market
information
booth
each
week.
H
It
is
our
practice
that
that
is
where
the
market
manager
stores
his
or
her
equipment
and
that
we
could
have
a
fire
extinguisher
available
there
and
visible,
and
if
there
is
perhaps
another
place
within
the
market
that
you
felt
appropriate.
It's
just
like
that.
The
terminology
of
a
fixed
location
is
concerning
to
us
because
we
were
unclear
as
to
how
we
could
effectively
implement
that
on
a
regular
basis
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you
to.
F
The
chair
question
I'd
like
to
ask
staff
what
what
do
you
think
the
fire
department
was
looking
for?
It
looks
to
me
like
they're,
just
looking
for
three
fire
extinguishers
around
the
area
in
a
position
that
can't
readily
be
changed
unless,
unless
it's
purposefully
done,
is
this
something
that
can
be
worked
out
behind
the
scenes?
Yeah.
D
I
think
the
term
fix
doesn't
really
doesn't
mean
a
fix
to
the
ground
like
it.
What
I
think
it
means
is
a
consistent
location
that
they
that
people
know
where
they're
at
every
single
time
there
at
the
market
and
won't
have
to
search
search
form
if
the
fire
does
break
out.
So
what
we
could
do
you
know
both
18
and
19
are
things
that
are
really
at
the
you
know.
D
There
is
add,
you
know
it's
a
ad,
a
restroom
shall
we
present
on
site
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
building
official
and
then
on
the
fixed
pole,
just
say
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
fire
marshal
that
way
we
could
work
it
out
and
I
do
think
that
could
be
reasonable
if
there's
less
booths
and
there's
a
less
demand
for
the
poor
bathrooms
and
that's
something
that
we
could
work
out
with
the
going
after.
Okay,
that's.
D
H
I
would
that
would
give
us.
Thank
you.
Flexibility
and
also
the
restroom
requirement
is
something
so
part
of
health
codes.
It
also
gives
us
the
flexibility
if
there
should
be
a
change
in
the
enforcement
by
the
health
department.
It
also
gives
us
the
flexibility
to
be
responsive
to
them,
which
we
appreciate
very.
F
H
H
H
E
G
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
It's
not
being
the
applicant
I
have
not
received
the
full
all
the
restrictions
and
conditions
that
are
put
I've,
never
seen
the
document
I'm
a
little
alarmed
that
this
evening,
I'm
hearing
that
number
30
says
that
if
future
impacts
arise
on
traffic,
the
planning
director
and
the
police
chief
may
impose
additional
signage
at
some.
Something
I
should
be
aware
of
and
be
able
to
assess
and
discuss
with
ownership
before
it
is
enacted.
G
There
are
other
restrictions
or
demands
that
are
being
put
on
the
shopping
center.
That
I
need
to
discuss
as
well.
I
believe
that
there's
a
there's
a
demand
for
directional
wayfinding
traffic
for
the
JC
Penney
and
target
garage
structure
on
the
other
side
of
the
property.
I
also
believe
that
there
is
a
demand
for
a
crosswalk
at
the
barnes
and
noble
location
across
to
the
main
entrance.
These
are
large
and
impactful
requests
of
the
property
owner
not
having
been
an
applicant
I
haven't
had
the
benefit
of
reading
the
documents.
G
G
I'm,
relatively
new
to
the
property
I've
been
here
a
year
and
a
half
I've
had
the
fortune
of
working
with
there
on
a
number
of
issues
and
opening
the
doors
to
public
relations
and
working
with
the
community,
which
is
something
I
find
very
dear
to
my
heart
I'm,
a
former
planning
Commissioner
former
chair.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
I
know
it's
difficult!
Then
there
done
that.
I'm,
a
former
mayor,
two-term
council
member
of
City
millbrae
I've,
been
in
shopping
center
management
for
30
years.
G
The
Chamber
of
Commerce
is
sometimes
considered
a
competitor
or
an
adversary
with
a
shopping
center
when
it
couldn't
be
less
true.
We
promote
business
activities,
my
marketing
directors,
on
the
board.
We
want
Sam
gooner
to
be
successful
and
when
San
Bruno
knocks
on
our
door,
which
is
what
happened
in
this
situation,
we
opened
it
well
when
we
opened
it,
we
let
a
few
things
fly
in
with
the
friendly.
G
Let's
help
you
out
presentation
that
the
chamber
brought
to
us,
they
needed
the
visibility
of
our
property
for
the
farmers
market,
no
problem
thrilled
to
be
hosting
it.
It's
a
wonderful
community
program
doesn't
hurt
us
a
bit
it's
on
sleepy
sunday
mornings.
There
are
no
issues,
it's
a
non-issue!
It's
a
joy
well
before
2009.
I
believe
it
was.
There
were
some
previous
discussions
with
ownership
and
the
city
relative
to
peak
dak
traffic
periods
and
parking
ratios
relative
to
the
planned
development
project.
G
I
understand
these
discussions
are
still
ongoing
and
some
of
the
issues
are
yet
to
be
resolved.
One
of
those
issues
is
the
wayfinding
signage,
that's
being
required
by
the
city
or
imposed
upon
the
ownership,
but
totally
unrelated
to
the
farmers
market.
It's
an
issue.
Nine
years
old
relative
to
a
separate
discussion
which
is
still
ongoing,
is
in
the
process
of
moving
forward.
That
argument
should
stay
with
that
argument.
I
don't
have
the
authority
to
spend
money
on
signage
and
I,
don't
know
if
that's
an
appropriate
request,
because
it's
crossing
over
issues.
G
It's
a
hangover
issue,
I
guess
so
sorry
to
put
it
as
right
as
it
relates
to
the
crosswalk.
I
need
to
go
back
into
my
recollections
of
how
this
property
was
developed
was
a
planned
development.
The
city
was
intimately
involved
in
the
development
of
this
facility
were
partners,
we
are
symbiotic
and
we
benefit
from
each
other.
G
So
to
just
say,
oh
by
the
way,
let's
put
a
cross
walk
over
there,
you
are
veteran
planning
directors.
You
know
that
you
can't
just
place
cross,
walk
without
understanding
its
impacts,
its
costs,
how
it
can
be
negative
to
traffic
I
mean
they're
up.
There
are
a
plethora
of
issues
that
aren't
being
addressed
and
there's
just
this
demand.
G
I
can
tell
you
I
went
out
and
had
it
assessed
for
cost
and
feasibility
and
if
you've
been
to
that
intersection,
it's
not
only
catawampus
from
the
direct
cross
road,
but
it
goes
from
a
sidewalk
that
would
require
a
truncated,
dome
and
and
then
and
ramp,
set
in
to
an
existing
concrete
curb
that
is
not
a
DA
accessible
and
it
would
require
sloping
back
16v
on
either
side
on
the
ultra
side
and
the
front
entrance
side.
So
you
could
ramp
directly
and
properly
and
conforms
with
a
DA
to
the
truncated
dome
ramp.
G
Then
you
cross
the
street
and
the
stop
sign
that
is
there.
The
stop
bar
would
have
to
be
moved
back
about
four
feet,
because
it's
too
close
to
the
to
the
actual
exit
road
itself
and
we'd
have
to
make
an
adjustment
for
the
path
of
travel.
The
path
of
travel
would
go
into
a
curved
planter.
That's
rather
large
has
not
only
a
hydrant
but
a
PG&E
vault
stop
sign.
G
Sprinklers
I'd
have
to
completely
renovate
that
I'd
have
to
dig
it
out,
put
in
ramp's,
put
in
a
pathway
that
I'm
having
difficulty
understanding
could
potentially
be
non-compliant.
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
actually
make
that
walkway
through
that
planter
ad
a
compliant,
it
might
require
an
ad
a
variance
it's
not
as
simple
as
striping
the
pavement.
F
G
G
F
What
you're
saying
is
that
your
proposed
resolution
is
to
at
least
temporarily,
if
not
permanently,
put
the
signage
and
cross
work
crosswalk
provisions
aside,
so
that
this
can
go
forward
at
least
for
now,
and
that
if
the
city
finds
it
to
be
of
such
importance
that
it
has
to
come
back,
it
can
always
be
brought
back.
I
have.
G
No
problem
with
that,
but
in
the
meantime,
I'll
be
putting
my
ducks
in
a
row
as
well,
because
it's
also
a
possibility.
We
could
lose
a
parking
stall.
I
mean
you
have
to
come.
Look
at
the
location,
Aaron,
we
could
lose
a
parking
stuff.
We
lose
the
parking
stall,
we're
further
down
the
road
and
negativity
on
the
parking
ratio
issue.
We
can't
let
a
stall
go
because
that
has
monetary
value
not
far
and
beyond
the
cost
of
a
crosswalk,
a
DA
or
otherwise.
G
I
would
greatly
appreciate
the
greater
picture
being
here
being
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
in
the
city
of
san
bruno
and
what
they're
trying
to
do
with
a
community
event
for
their
citizens
and
need
a
parking
lot,
and
we
have
one
it's
that
simple.
If
we
can
go
with
the
flow
on
that
see
how
it
develops
see
if
it
grows
to
50,
if
you
guys
want
to
move
it
over
to
sears
I'll,
go
to
sears
myself
on
your
behalf
and
make
a
case
and
I'll
be
happy
to
start
process
now,
but
we
don't
own
that
property.
G
I
D
D
We
have
that
initial
meeting,
I'll
first
touch
on
the
directional
signage
since
2007
the
tanforan
shopping
center
has
been
operating
without
the
required
number
of
spaces
several
years
ago,
and
this
is
because
of
a
DA
improvements
that
they
had
to
make
to
the
target
level
garage
that
knocked
out
about
200
parking
spaces,
or
so
so
it
took
them
down
from
their
required
to
have
four
and
a
half
spaces
per
1,000.
It
took
them
down
to
a
ratio
of
about
4.3.
They
started
to
go
through
a
parking
amendment
process
several
years
ago.
D
It
actually
went
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
was
scheduled
for
the
City
Council.
The
direction
at
both
the
Planning
Commission
at
the
city
council
meeting
was
fine
with
lower
parking
requirement.
However,
there
are
highly
impacted
areas
within
tanforan,
mall
and
we'd
like
to
see
some
directional
signage,
to
get
people
to
the
areas
of
the
mall.
That
have
vacant
parking
spaces
and
obviously,
if
anyone
bins
been
to
the
mall,
the
most
highly
impact
are
the
area
outside
of
bjs.
D
In
the
area,
SATA
volta
and
the
least
impacted
areas
are
the
JC
Penney's
parking
deck
in
the
target
garage
now,
I
think
the
City
Council
and
Planning
Commission
at
that
time.
This
was
years
ago
before
a
lot
of
people
worked
out
the
way
that
the
drive
within
the
mall
had
a
more
staff
to.
We
had
the
idea
of
having
a
more
comprehensive
parking
signage
program
to
direct
people
to
various
various
areas
of
the
mall.
With
the
city
council
directed
at
this
last.
One
is
simply
one
sign.
D
This
sign
would
as
you
as
you
make
a
right
out
of
the
main
entrance
and
you're
you're
headed
south
in
the
parking
lot
past.
Bjs
would
simply
have
a
sign
that
points
people
there's
additional
parking
in
the
target
garage
as
well
as
the
JC
Penney's
garage.
So
it's
not
a
huge
deal
in
terms
of
the
number
of
signs.
D
This
is
this
would
be
a
requirement
that's
placed
on
this
when
we
eventually
do
call
up
the
parking
exception,
application
for
final
approval
to
the
city
council
meeting,
which
will
happen
within
the
next
three
months
or
so
so.
This
is
something
that's
going
to
be
on
this,
but
this
will
be
a
requirement.
You
know,
regardless
of
the
farmers
market
or
no
farmers
market.
However,
since
this
is
taking
up
additional
parking
spaces,
we
had
a
place
it
within
these
conditions
of
approval
regarding
the
crosswalk.
D
The
reason
why
the
crosswalk
applicative
requirement
is
here
is
simply
there,
the
believe,
the
council
member,
as
well
as
staff,
noticed
that
this
would
draw
extra
pedestrian
activity
to
a
certain
area.
That
said,
we're
not
dead
set
on
the
crosswalk
I
think
what
we
could
do
is,
even
though
that
was
the
City
Council's
direction
and
they
may
end
up
requiring
that
what
we're
happy
to
do
is
sit
down
with
sit
down
with
with
tan
Fran
as
well
as
our
engineering
staff
see.
If
there
is
another
way
that
we
could
work
around.
D
D
I
D
This
is
strong
direction
from
four
years
now
in
a
strong
direction
from
the
City
Council
at
the
city
council
meeting
where
this
was
this
was
heard,
and
the
City
Council
was
making
the
determination
whether
or
not
a
use
like
this
was
consistent
with
the
mall
zoning
and
their
determination
was
part
of
the
mall.
Zoning
is
a
parking
requirement.
They're,
not
they're,
not
there
parking
requirement
isn't
being
men
at
this
point.
So
in
order
for
there
to
be
consistency,
directional
signage
should
be
put
in
twenty
people
towards
the
least
impacted
areas
of
them
all.
Okay,.
I
So
but
the
general
manager
of
the
mall
has
stated
that
she
was
not
in
receipt
of
I,
guess
the
whole
tire
packed
with
all
the
conditions
of
approval.
That
was
what
I
understood
correct.
So
I,
don't
really
know.
Why
not
to
me
it
doesn't
kind
of
make
sense,
but
it
is
what
it
is.
You
can
get
it.
She
didn't
get
it,
but
that's
not
it's
not
good.
To
have
to
come
to
a
meeting.
You
have
something
you're
right,
all
of
a
sudden
you're
looking
at
a
cost,
because
you
could
very
well
be
a
cost.
These.
D
Specific
areas
that
have
been
discussed
before
we
sent
an
email
with
the
specific
locations
circled
showing
what
the
condition
sheet.
We
did
the
error,
though,
in
the
fact
that
we
should
have
sent
the
final
packet
to
the
property
owner
as
well,
and
they
may
have
been
sent
to
the
property
owner
not
to
the
general
manager.
It's.
I
Not
every
possible
Oh
is
there
some
way
that
even
tonight,
if
we
wanted
to
in
the
event
that,
as
as
it
stands
right
now,
let
us
say
that
it
was.
You
know,
voted
down
or
let's
say
that
it's
voted
in,
but
it
doesn't
meet
with.
You
know
the
out
of
the
mall.
What
their
requirements
are.
I
mean.
Is
there
some
way
to
you
know
for
a
month
continue
for
the
you
know,
farmers
market
until
these
issues
can
be
resolved,
I
mean
or
is
it
and
here
tonight,
where
it's
either
going
to
be?
D
Have
an
approval
for
three
months,
beginning
May
twentieth
with
the
temporary
use
permit,
so
they
actually
had
there's
a
little
bit
of
buffer
time
in
there
wouldn't
be
we
wouldn't
yank
the
temporary
use
permit.
It
would
just
be
something
that
beyond
August
twentieth,
one
of
the
allowed
to
operate
so.
E
F
D
The
idea
was
that
we
were
going
to
do
it
as
a
temporary
use
permit
for
a
short
period
of
time
and
see
how
things
worked
out
and
then
address
the
long-standing
parking
issues
as
part
of
the
use
permit.
That
goes
forward
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
as
well
as
the
parking
exception
application
that
would
ultimately
go
to
the
City
Council.
So
the
idea
was
we
wanted.
We
didn't
wanted
to
lay
the
start
of
the
farmers
market
we'd.
Let
it
operate
as
it
is
right
now
and
then
for
the
long-standing
one.
F
D
D
F
I've
been
out
there
in
slow
times
and
busy
times,
Christmas,
Thanksgiving
and
right
now,
for
that
matter
and
I've
never
had
any
trouble.
Finding
parking
I
might
have
to
walk
a
little
bit,
but
there's
miraculous
number
of
open
spaces
even
on
the
the
most
busy
Christmas
shopping
day,
so
I'm
having
trouble
with
the
with
them
with
having
to
have
more
parking
there.
F
F
J
E
E
E
E
F
E
J
E
J
E
G
J
Because
my
thought
is,
you
know
that
portion
of
the
parking
lot
has
been
used
for
this
type
of
activity
before
it's
not
ideally
located,
I
mean
in
a
retail
sense.
What
you've
picked
out
is
ideal
for
congesting
people
in
a
retail
environment
where
they
can
go
shopping
to
go
to.
You
know
farmers
market,
but
we've
had
that
kind
of
usage
on
that
property.
Before
on
a
it's
a
lot,
less
traffic,
there's
a
lot
less
vehicle
flow,
there's
more
parking
over
there.
I.
E
G
We
did
the
best
thing
we
put
John
our
property
in
here.
We
set
this
particular
project,
has
some
specific
differences
as
it
relates
to
other
functions
that
have
occurred
on
these
sites.
The
carnival's,
the
the
pumpkin
patches,
the
Christmas
tree
lot,
other
proposed
uses
which
shall
remain
nameless
for
the
time
being,
but
those
are
tenants.
Their
pain
is
rent.
We
get
money,
we
get
commissions,
we
don't
get
anything
for
farmers
market.
E
G
J
E
I
Through
the
chair,
pleasure
and
indirectly,
though,
you
may
be
making
money
off
by
virtue
of
more
people
that
attend
the
farmers
market.
Hopefully
they
will
then
in
turn,
get
their
goods
and
then
decide.
Hey
I
need
a
t-shirt
or
whatever
it
you
know
and
go
to
one
of
the
stores.
So
there
is
that
indirect
hard
to
put
a
figure
on,
hopefully
you're,
making
some
money
off
of
the
farmers
market.
Maybe
not,
it
might
be
very
difficult
to
trace,
but
probably
all
you
know
more
likely,
there
is
a
trickle-down
theory
factor.
I
would
think
you're.
I
G
Know
her
she
could
won't
well
there's
two
things.
Yes,
it
is
a
regional
shopping
center.
It
is
what
it
is.
It
exists.
Therefore,
it
is
that's
its
function.
However,
the
parking
lot
at
the
hours
of
the
farmers
market
only
right
now
only
has
a
two-hour
overlay
on
Sunday,
so
I
mean
it's
not
like
we're
open
the
whole
time
that
the
farmers
market
is
there,
pepper,
I'd,.